Never really been a BOXING or Martial arts FANATIC, though I respect the Science... That being said, I DID watch alot of USA Fri Night Bouts ... YOU Sir have broken this LEGENDS style down in a way better than I've ever seen!!!! GREAT JOB!!!
Can you breakdown Rocky Marciano vs Jack Dempsey? That’s a fight that usually splits the boxing community. However more favour Marciano nowadays because there’s virtually no one left alive that can remember a prime Dempsey
He was a very kind boxer he never went in for trash talk and was very sensitive, after paralysing a fighter he cried in hospital and stayed with the guy. He also cried when he beat Joe Louis as he knew he'd ended a brilliant boxers career.
Can’t help but notice from all these footage that Rocky seems to have the habit of immediately backing away from his opponent the moment they go down (with the exception of that one hit to Joe Walcott). The sportsmanship he displays is definitely notable.
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation of how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which have been used for decades: Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL* Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL* Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL* Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL* James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL* Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL* Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL* Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL* Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL* Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL* Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL* Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.* Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.* Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.* Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.* Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?* Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much! Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf. Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Low-power Walcott's high profile losses are what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5½) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division must have been at this time. But the most astonishing fact is (5) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!! That's because Walcott was one of the IBC's original fighters. He signed on when Louis retired. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence. Charles, Walcott, Marciano had mobbed managers, Charles a pair named Tom Tennas and Jacob Mintz, Walcott one Nick Bocchicchio and Marciano one Frankie Carbo. Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D. Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Even Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight *"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
Most people openly admit that the versions of Charles, Moore, and Walcott that he fought were far from prime (The Louis fight really doesn't deserve to be brought up). So it isn't the quality of Rocky's competition that his reputation is based on among the greats, it is that famous record 49-0. If Rocky's 49-0 record is the basis of his greatness then the fighters on that record should be the very best that were available. But by my reckoning that is the furthest thing from the truth. Infact when you look at the highest ranked fighters of the era, and then you look at his record, it's scandalous how many he didn't fight. Many of the ones he DID choose to fight are just as scandalous. Top fighters Marciano definitely should have fought that he didn't. *1)* Harold Johnson *2)* Oakland Billy Smith *3)* Yolande Pompey *4)* Curtis Hatchetman Sheppherd *5)* Clarence Henry *6)* Joey Maxim *7)* Marty Marshall *8)* Bob Satterfield *9)* Jimmy Bivins *10)* Lloyd Marshall *11)* Nino Valdes *12)* Willie Pastrano *13)* Cleveland Williams had 35 wins 2 losses when Rocky retired in April 1956. Rocky had plenty of opportunities to fight Cleveland in 1952 or 1953. Those are just the definites, we could add many other names (like Tommy Jackson, Dan Bucceroni or even Bob Baker) that while not as good, are definitely better than some of the guys he DID fight that make up that "legendary" record. Guys like these; Lee Epperson (Career Record 0-1) Jimmy Weeks (Career Record 0-1) Gilbert Cardone (Career Record 0-3) John Edwards (Career Record 1-2) Bill Hardeman (Career Record 1-7) Humphrey Jackson (Career Record 4-3) Johnnie Pretzie (Career Record 10-14) Bob Jefferson (Career Record 3-10) Gilley Ferron (Career Record 4-13) Tommy DiGiorgio (Career Record 9-15) Artie Donato (Career Record 7-13) Harry Haft (Career Record 12-7) James Connoly (Career Record 12-9) Harry Bilazarian (Career Record 15-12) Joe Dominic (Career Record 18-12) Don Mogard (Career Record 20-16) Jimmy Walls (Career Record 21-41) Eldridge Eatman (Career Record 22-21). Eldridge had just lost 7 of his last 8 fights. Why would a 26-0 boxer fight an *F-LEVEL* diver who had just lost 7 fights? Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons who had a career 9 wins 22 losses. Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell who had a career 7 wins 16 losses. *(Harold had just lost 10 fights in a row before diving against Rocky)* Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri who had a career 18 wins 29 losses. Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate who had a career 12 wins 16 losses. None of these guys beat anyone of note! Many of these guys he even fought pretty far into his career when there were obviously alternatives. In light of this should this 49-0 record be as revered as it is to some?
Miller weighs - 305 Zhang - 285 Bakole - 285 Teremoana - 285 Ruiz - 275 Fury - 275 Briggs - 265 Grant - 265 Jalolov - 255 Foreman - 220/250 Itamua - 250 Parker - 250 Vitali - 250 Peter - 250 Joshua - 250 Whyte - 250 Ibeabuchi - 245 Lennox - 245 Kabayel - 245 Wladimir - 245 Dubois - 245 Sanchez - 245 Ruddock - 245 Hrgovic - 245 Wardley - 240 Bowe - 240 Ortiz - 240 Witherspoon - 235 Tua - 235 Dokes - 235 Bruno - 230 Morrison - 230 Cooney - 230 Usyk - 225 Thomas - 225 Lyle - 220 Holmes - 218 Holyfield - 218 Tyson - 218 Wilder - 218 Ali - 218 Liston - 218 Frazier - 206 Dempsey - 187 *Moore - 175 lb LH champ from 1952 to 1962.* *Charles - 181 lb HW champ with lowest ever 42% KO's.* *Marciano - 184 lb HW champ with 67" flyweight reach.* *Marciano's era was undoubtedly the smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history and that's not even remotely debatable.* *If size doesn't matter why hasn't there been another 184 lb Heavyweight champion since little Marciano's little era 4 generations ago?* *"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"* *Walcott was 38/39, Moore was 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Rocky's opponents Combined Lost an Astonishing "753" Times and 94% of his opponents were D to F-LEVEL cans. Louis Walcott Charles Moore already had "409" fights before they faced Rocky. 49-0 or 149-0, what's the difference if the division was Horseshirt*
George Foreman: The time when I was training with the great Archie Moore, and I ask him about his big fight with Rocky. He told me what beat him was Marciano power, he hit me on arms, my body, everywhere. My arms was so broken I couldn't use them to defend myself. That the power of Rocky Marciano.
Foreman is a good guy. Foreman would have demolished Marciano because Foreman was simply too big and powerful, but if you could somehow bring them back in equivalent sizes to fight each other, that could be one of the greatest fights of all-time.
@@richardmilliken8705 He might have. Of course, Foreman lost to Jimmy Young in 1977, who pulled the same crap on him that Ali did. But young was very awkward. He took Ali the distance in '76 and a lot of people thought young should have won that fight.
@@richardmilliken8705 I remember that. There was a pro wrestling vibe to the way Young would duck his body out of the ring when he needed a timeout. You don't want to DQ a fighter unless he's doing something illegal that causes harm his opponent--like biting or low blows. You DQ someone and it creates headaches for the promoter because ticket buyers will be demanding their money back. But I think the referee should have penalized Young a point and instructed the judges to deduct it from his score when he ducked under the rope. That would have given Ali a clearer victory but still allowed the fight to go the distance.
@@richardmilliken8705 Ali got seriously hurt by George Cooper who only weighed 185 pounds! Ali would of been beaten by people like Lennox Lewis and either of the Klitschko Brothers! Ali fought not the Greatest Opposition himself. Sonny Liston was Old! Ali after his 3 1/2 year layoff lost a lot of Hand Speed, Foot Speed and Stamina! Plus Ali got Hit in his Face in his Fights with Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers! Ali took most of his Punishment from Sparring! Ali also thought he could callous his Brain by letting Sparring Partners Punch him in the Face and Head! That is absolutely the Dumbest Idiotic Statement that I have heard from any Professional Boxer! No taking Punches to your Head, Skull and Face give you Serious Brain Damage- Plain and Simple! In his Prime Muhammad Ali was a Fast Handed, Fast Footed Boxer but it only lasted a Short Time! Ali was NEVER close to his Prime when he fought back in the Early 70’s! I was a big Ali Fan. I knew Ali would easily beat Jerry Quarry, then he Fought Oscar Bonavena and Stopped Oscar by Knocking him down 3 times in the 15th Round!
A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise... Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Becuase he fought has beens look at fury way better but where all the black guys at in lower divisions even wilder who aint a boxer gave him his toughest fights
@@johnnysoso2 A little bit of a puzzle I guess. Think point being made is Rocky was fighting past their prime boxers like former champion Joe Louis and he is over hyped.. Fury...well he is just lucky that there is a current shortage of good black heavyweights, unlike in lower weight classes.
As a guy who started boxing at 25, this man will remain the proof that no matter how late you start with hard work and insane dedication can still make it as one of all time best
@@mirai5850 also Anthony Joshua and deontay Wilder, not all time greats but they both made it to the very top starting at age 18 for Joshua and 21 for Wilder.
Rocky’s stamina and strength was off the charts and it looked like he was putting everything he had into every punch. Although he didn’t have the reach he generated his power from crouching and leaning and putting all his momentum in his movements, generating power up from his legs, torso and through his arms. You can just see it. He was a savage.
@@elihammond774 still got hit in the head by heavyweights. Nobody participates in martial arts without taking damage to the brain. He was just built different. Such an unfortunate end to his life. Him and Gerald McClellan are my favorite boxers and both suffered horrible ends
Marciano was on a “no-lose” mission to achieving greatness and he did so by simply out-working and out-conditioning all fighting foes. His work ethic was nothing short of remarkably consistent and disciplined: hours of running, gym work, sparring, push-ups and sit-ups, countless medicine-ball thumps to the gut. Marciano was committed to his training regimen. Rocky is also remembered and honored for his class as an individual, not only his 49-0. He never boasted or ridiculed his opponents. Regardless what others may think, Rocky Marciano was a great champion.
I remember asking my Dad, who had boxed as an amature, who was the Greatest Fighter. He said Rocky Marciano. He told me what this commentator said. His power and his getting inside would do you in. This was when these fighters went 15 rounds not 12. Dad also said he was a good guy that cared about other fighters. In the ring he was relentless. Outside, a gentleman. They don't make them like this anymore.
Boxers are like that. Beat the crap outta each other in the ring - then maintain a lifelong friendship in the real world. Look at Dempsey and Tunney. Max Schmeling inflicted Joe Louis' first defeat on him, a humiliating 12-round KO. Louis took revenge with a devastating 1st round KO. Max supported Joe when the US tax collectors sent him broke. I still communicate with guys I fought in the ring. It's a brotherhood.
I think this is the best analysis of The Rock that I've come across: he was a much-disadvantaged heavyweight who made the most of his talents and shortcoming, an incredible fighter. As you've shown, he was technically highly intelligent and adept. Thank you.
Rocky was a really nice guy, my dad showed me pictures of him hanging out at his house when he was a kid because my great-uncle Morris was good friends with him. Marciano used to train in the Catskills, where my dad grew up, and my uncle apparently befriended one of the guards and then talked his way into being friends with Rocky himself. That must've been surreal for my dad, being a little kid and having the world heavyweight champion chilling in a hammock in your yard.
*EZZARD CHARLES WAS 100% FACTUALLY HANDICAPPED WITH LOU GEHRIG'S DISEASE WHEN HE FOUGHT ROCKY MARCIANO!!!* William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights, and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano Charles already had symptoms long before he fought Rocky in 54. How can anyone say he didn't if u've never read Ezzard's biography? If a Rocky fan were to read a Rocky biography he'd hang on to every single word as if it were the gospel truth. *(Too many reputable witnesses!!)* *(Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking lived with ALS for 55 years!!)*
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchezhow did a man with ALS during that time beat Bob Satterfield and last the distance with Jersey Joe Walcott one last time? He's fo sho past his best but still game,talk about Larry Holmes for example.
@@HaraDuran That account is run by an individual with multiple accounts who teams up with a small group of others to trash Marciano's legacy in response to every Rocky video that gets posted.
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
An excellent analysis of Rocky's style of boxing. I always had much appreciation of Mr. Marciano. He was a kind, decent man and a fearless warrior. It pains me to see current commentators put him down. You did an admirable job with the video. Thank you.
Wrong; he was a strong arm robber, that went to prison in the Army; he was a dirty fighter, losing rounds or being warned for low blows in almost every fight. Most of his fights were against club fighters. When he started fighting non club fighters, they wer either light hitting, or past their prime. HE WAS A PROMOTIONAL HYPE!
@@researcher3981 you are trapped by ur ignorance and you take part of a story and make it apply as truth? You are an ignorant fool who knows Nothing about Marciano ! Another jealous hater. He beat up a guy in Britain who invited he and his buddy back to their apt and made homorsexual advances thats why he robbed the punks ! Second his fights weren't club fighters -Jersey Joe Wolcott ? Ezzard Charles was NOT. Club fighter nor past his prime-the same crap was said back then-he was denounced the same way with the same old tired baloney-He wasn't dirty he was a swarmer who never stopped punching so yes he would rabbit punch at times ! He was well schooled and even Ali said he wasn't easy to hit as he looked ! Clearly he was one enigma and a unique amazingly great fighter and great man. People like you are ingrates ignorant !
One of things you will notice about how devastating his power is, is when he faces fighters for a second time they are genuinely scared of getting hit again and shadows of there former selves 15 rounds with Marciano was the end of a lot boxers careers.
Current world rankings The Ring & BoxRec As of February 13, 2022 [C Current The Ring world champion] Rank Name Record (W-L-D) Title(s) C United Kingdom Tyson Fury 6' 9" 277 lbs 85" reach KOs 69% 31-0-1 (22 KO) WBC 1 Ukraine Oleksandr Usyk 6' 3.2" 222 lbs 78.2" reach KOs 68% 19-0 (13 KO) IBF,WBA,WBO 2 United Kingdom Anthony Joshua 6' 6" 250 lbs 82" reach KOs 85% 24-2 (22 KO) 3 United States Deontay Wilder 6' 7" 238 lbs 83" reach KOs 91% 42-2-1 (41 KO) 4 United Kingdom Dillian Whyte 6' 4" 260 lbs 78" reach KOs 63% 28-2 (19 KO) 5 New Zealand Joseph Parker 6' 4" 260 lbs 76" reach KOs 66% 30-2 (21 KO) 6 United States/Mexico Andy Ruiz Jr. 6' 2" 270 lbs 74" reach KOs 61% 34-2 (22 KO) 7 Cuba Luis Ortiz 6' 4" 240 lbs 78" reach KOs 76% 33-2-0-2 (28 KO) 8 United Kingdom Joe Joyce 6' 6" 265 lbs 80" reach KOs 92% 13-0 (12 KO) 9 Croatia Filip Hrgovic 6' 6" 245 lbs 82" reach KOs 86% 14-0 (12 KO) 10 Cuba Frank Sanchez 6' 4" 240 lbs 78" reach KOs 62% 20-0-0-1 (13 KO) 55 inches divided by 11 fighters = 5 inches or 6 feet 5 inch average. 2,767 pounds divided by 11 fighters = 252 pounds. 872 inches divided by 11 fighters = 79 inch reach. Today's Super Heavyweight boxers average size = 6' 5" 252 lbs 79" reach. Marciano was only 5' 10" 185 lbs with the shortest ever 67" reach. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and increase his weight up to 205 pounds. Still wouldn't help. Just can't see it. Ain't no way Rocky's taking out these modern 6' 5" 250 lb Super Heavyweights with excellent records. Even with the help of modern nutrition training and roids still wouldn't help little Rocky's penguin T-rex alligator arms grow longer! And he'd still need the use of a stepladder inorder to reach King Fury. Besides, if ya put an additional 20+ pounds on Marciano he woulda moved slower than molasses. Rocky wasn't born with fast twitch muscle fibers like Mike Tyson. Mike was genetically gifted with fast fibers and came out the gate sprinting like a 220 pound Quarter Horse. While 185 pound Marciano always came out the gate shuffling forward like a turtle. Prime Tyson KO's prime Marciano 10 out of 10 times.
Marciano's 185 lb punching power doesn't come close to a 245 to 275 lb Ibeabuchi, Lewis, Vitali, Foreman or Fury type of Heavier Weighted Power which effortlessly produces more torque and leverage. If u had to break up large boulder would u use 8oz ball peen hammer or 8 lb sledgehammer? Size matters otherwise boxing wouldn't have 18 different weight classes. Featherweights would be fightin middleweights and cruisers would be fightin Super Heavies. There are no height divisions, age divisions or reach division, because weight at heavyweight boxing is one of the most important factor. Super Heavyweights are increasing because Eastern European fighters are now allowed to fight in USA since around 2000 (Hall of Fame Klitschko brothers dominated Heavyweight boxing for TWENTY years) and international travel is much easier compared to 30 40 50 years ago. Even a new Bridgerweight division between 200 and 224 lbs was recently added because too many 215 lb heavyweights complained. We'll never-ever see small cruiserweights 182 lb Patterson, 183 lb Charles or 184 lb Marciano as heavyweight champions again. Boxing has evolved , proven quality SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT SIZE MATTERS like it or not.
Southpaw 200 lb Cruiserweight Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over Usyk 222 lbs 6'3.2" with 78.2" reach. Holyfield 218 lbs 6'2.5" with 78" reach. Michael Spinks 208 lbs 6' 2.5" with 76" reach. Ali 215 lbs 6'2.5" (passport) with 78" reach. And of course we mustn't forget little 185 lb 5'10" Rocky with his famously shortest "ever" 67" bantamweight T-rex alligator reach. Shocking isn't it Marciano Lovers. Those other small guys weren't so small after all. They already had the height and reach. So they were able to assimilate into the heavyweight division with few problems. On the other hand Rocky had some serious dwarfism problems going on with his arms. Simply put Rocky would be too small for today's average size Super Heavyweight which is 6' 5" 250 lbs 79" reach.
Rocky ran at least 5 miles a day, 365, with several pounds of sand built into each leather combat boot designed by a local shoe mogul. When a fight was signed he'd run 8 to 10 miles, and usually the last week up it to 12 miles. He said, "if you train like i do, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." Rocky would also include running uphill forward, downhill backwards, repeat. I remember reading that quote several decades ago. Then out of nowhere i recently stumbled across an isolated vid and Rocky said, "this is where the road work pays off. If your up at the bust of dawn everyday while your training, running up and down hill, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." On top of that Rocky liked to walk another 5 to 10 miles in the late afternoon or evening. And he did all this in the hilly country around Grossinger's, where he trained. It was Rocky's obsession with conditioning that kept him training 365 days a year and this dedication gave him stamina never seen before in a fighter. It allowed him to set a blistering pace that no opponent could match. that vid is called -- Main Event: Marciano vs Charles from Majik Man guest is Tony Franciosa, vid is 25:35 in length with Rocky's priceless commentary covering rounds 1, 4, 6, 10, 15
Both Rocky Marciano and Marvin Hagler are from Brockton. Hagler heard a lot about Marciano's work-ethic and determination from Goody Petronelli. Who is Goody Petronelli? He was born in Brockton, Massachusetts and grew up as a close friend of Rocky Marciano. Both their fathers had emigrated from the Abruzzo region of Italy. Petronelli was also a friend of Marciano's trainer, Allie Colombo. The Petronelli brothers opened their Brockton gym in 1969, the same year both Marciano and Colombo died (in a plane crash and an auto accident respectively.) Guerino "Goody" Petronelli with his brother Pasquale, managed and trained world middleweight champion Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Marvin knew so much about Rocky. Notice the similarities. Their daily year-round workouts and the solitaire confinement with little interaction. What I'm trying to say is Hagler adopted a lot of Marciano's monk like training methods and it paid off tremendously.
"So many of the greats were just wild, wild people...but then there were some greats that were just real disciplined. MARVIN HAGLER is my best example for that. When I was a kid growing up in Boston, Hagler was the middleweight champion of the world, and they used to show him on the news, he'd be running on the sand dunes of Cape Cod in the winter, in the freezing cold with a hoodie on, screaming "War! WAR!" It was amazing. Marvin Hagler made you just want to get out of your house and go running in the snow. That's what I always got out of him, not that he was so wild; he was so mentally strong, he had an iron chin, and his discipline was impeccable." -- Joe Rogan on boxer Marvin Hagler
The way Rocky throws punches from every conceivable point on the compass is not only fun to watch but inspiring and motivates me to exercise. He was a perpetual motion punching machine that ground his opponents down like a hydraulic drill attacking a boulder.
The thing about Rocky is that the guy was not "supposed" to be a heavyweight. Even by the standards of the time he was undersized to the point that the light heavyweight champ Archie Moore outweighed him. What this meant was that Rocky **had** to have a unique style if he was going to compete. You can't expect to use the same techniques as fighters of more classic builds and sizes to beat them if you don't have that size. Rocky's late career start also meant that he was forced to learn only those skills that were suited to him. He didn't have the time to spend learning classic style techniques that he was ill-equipped to make use of. It's an example of necessity being the mother of invention. The result was a style that was uniquely suited to take full advantage of Rocky's best skills and hide his weaknesses.
@@theoriginal.Bobbyd Tyson or Evander or Lennox or Tua would of kill Marciano in the first round,,remember,, Black's were no really allowed in boxing,,plus the once that did were allowed were just puppets for rocky,, they didn't really had a good trainer,, or good technique,,
@@sukokino2409 i cannot and will not deny that black ppl faced terrible discrimination in the sport of boxing, especially in the US... Which is why the first black hw world champion, Jack Johnson, had to win the championship in Australia. He wasn't allowed to fight for a world title in the USA. I'm very well aware that, while black boxers were allowed to fight in the USA for a very long time, they were often denied title shots. Or, they fought for "colored' championships. But, the simple fact is, Marciano fought all the top HWs of his era, regardless of race. To call fighters like Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcltt, and Archie Moore "puppets" and to pretend they weren't legit top-ranked fighters on their day, is extremely disrespectful towards those fighters. And it makes me wonder if your professed concern for racial equality in boxing is at all sincere, being that you're so willing to disrespectful discuss the best black fighters of the 1950s
Rocky was the best because he had the hardest punch, the best chin and the best endurance. Your right about his style but it is those three attributes that made him unbeatable.
Yes! I am so happy you decided to make this video. NO ONE does any analysis on his skills they just talk about how he hits hard. Glad to see him getting the credit he is due!!!
OYes The Modern Martial Artist does a fine analysis on little Rocky. It's just a shame Marciano only fought little cruiserweights and light heavyweights. He was never tested against any quality proven 200+ pound Heavyweights. Marciano wouldn't even be relevant against today's Super Heavyweights. He would be great at light heavyweight though.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici He beat every top notch heavy weight of his day. And every one of them were bigger than him, Don't attempt to diminish Marciano's boxing record! Who is the only undefeated HW? MARCIANO!
The force of his hits is pretty distracting. You forget about his tactics in the seconds after his opponent gets leveled. The power behind his punches makes you look away from how he landed the hit.
Archie Moore was born December 13, 1913. Light heavy champ Moore moved up in weight to fight Marciano at the age of 41. Imagine if Marciano was 41 and moved up in weight to fight 32 year old Moore. The fallacy about Moore & Walcott peaking at 40+ years old is a misleading unsound argument and scientifically impossible.
His technique was unbelievable and difficult to master, but the most impressive thing about Marciano was his relentless attack. He just kept coming at you during the whole fight with no let up or attempt to rest like fighters do today by getting their opponents in a clinch. I've never seen a fighter that could equal Rocky's stamina.
It's easy for a-blown-up light heavyweight to have that kind of stamina. Marvin Hagler had same kinda stamina. 250lb Super Heavyweights need to pace themselves. But those Super Heavyweights similar Ibeabuchi and King Fury would have smashed little Rocky & Hagler in only one round!
@@Jabbing_Jack You are a clearly a Marciano hater, as I came across your equally negative comment on another Rocky channel. Let me guess...I suppose Tyson Fury is the greatest heavyweight who has ever lived too...right? Because he's big?
A relentless style impervious to pain. Rocky had an indomitable heart that enabled him to withstand savage beatings. And he had a punch that was like a near-death experience. He trudged into the ring like a factory worker punching a time clock and started pounding on the wall in front of him until it crumbled.
Are you asleep? Marciano never took a "savage beating". Wake up and smell the coffee. Stop making stuff up in your search for adoration. Truth is you are black David Frost the most prolific Rocky hater on youtube.
*“Cassius Clay is the best Heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”* *“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen."* Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated: *“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and moves too quickly for all of us old timers.”* Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said: *“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations."* *“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned."* *“All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance."* *“He could do the same thing to Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and me. He might not knock us out but he would beat all of us."* *“When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch."* *"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange. Now, when Dempsey was fighting, he stood right over a man he had floored and hit him as he was getting up."* *(( @ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan ))* Jersey Joe has been around boxing for a long time and should know what he is talking about...Should I believe you, a clueless casual, or Jersey Joe ?
Carmine Vingo's *F-LEVEL* opponents: *1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL* *2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL* *3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL* *4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* *5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL and Vingo LOSES!!!* *6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL* *9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL* *11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL* *12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL* *(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)* *15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL* *16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL* *(Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought ((4)) opponents TWICE within 16 bouts)* *17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL* *(Vingo actually fights this 0-0-0 debuting amateur just before facing Rocky!!!)* *18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses. Rocky said, *"It so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* - Rocky @ The Marciano Tapes #6 Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."* So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo's hand. I was always mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old 6' 4' 220 lb Superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight Champion of the World but in reality he was a 6' 0 188 lb *F-LEVEL-BUM* that was set-up for slaughter!!! *Both LaStarza and Marciano's resumes are practically identical to Vingo's!!! Marciano's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's. Don't believe? Then do the research on Rocky's opponents one at a time. It's easy to do. Start at the bottom (BoxRec) with Rocky's first opponent Lee Epperson and slowly work towards the top. Just push on Lee Epperson' name and it'll automatically take you to Lee Epperson' entire career. See what's happening folks is the Marciano family is controlling everything said about Rocky at both Wikipedia and BoxRec. But all that's about to change! It's all gonna go back to it's original format from 10 to 15 years ago because I SAVED EVERYTHING!!!*
I think the Marciano Charles fights could make great breakdowns. Two of the most brutal clean fights in boxing history. Neither one was ever really the same after, tragically. Cheers for another great breakdown
@@TheModernMartialArtist Hey mate would love to see a Carlos Monzón breakdown considering that you pointed so many things about Marciano i never noticed. Itd be interesting to see you disect the style of Monzón and show things he did that nobody picks up on.
Mike Tyson was gifted with type II fast-twitch muscle fibers. He came out the gate sprinting like 220 pound Quarter 🐎 Horse, while 185 pound little white Rocky came out the gate shuffling forward like Little 🐢Turtle. 1980's 20yr old phenom Mike easily KO's Rocky 10 outta 10 times!
People are delusional. The guy was at best a welterweight. 5-10 and 175 lbs. Would be destroyed today. Ever wonder why almost non black boxers of the day were Italian? They grew up in areas where boxers were trained. That’s the only reason. What happened since is that others have had the chance to train and now wow, no Italian boxers.
remember as a kid in the `50's listening to adults talk about WWII and gathering around for the Thursday Night Fights (brought to by Burma-Shave) and across the board thought Sugar Ray Robinson was pound for pound the best (at that time) also that Rock 'was a bleeder' but you could not stop him.
I was a kid when he fought. Archie Moore was my favorite. I cried after he knocked Moore out. Moore was one of two to knock Marciano down. He caught him coming in. His fights with Ezzard Charles were monumental! Charles may not of weighed any more than Marciano. He split Marciano's nose which, to his credit didn't stop him. Both of them could have fought at light heavyweight. Charles actually fought as a middle weight at the first of his career. Tragically he died of Lou Greig's disease. There have been a lot of great heavy weights, none were greater then Rocky Marciano. Thanks for putting this on.
Rockys walk around weight was 200lbs and he was very carefull not let it go over that.He purposely drop his weight to 182lbs for fights to be shure he can press forward 15rds.
Archie was a bad man, spent years in black leagues busting men up, I know this wasn't 1800s but still black boxing was a thing, and Archie would fight multiple men at once back in the day. I respect that man so much it's unreal, I put him down in the jack Johnsons of the world of the time
Rocky's one of the greats mainly because he's one of the few fighters to make his disadvantages his advantages and he and his team developed an unorthodox and awkward but deadly style
• Jersey Joe Walcott: A Boxing Biography, April 4, 2012 Chapter 9 --- Louis - Walcott 1 page 71 "From the beginning and all through the buildup of the Walcott - Louis 1 fight, the press criticized Walcott. In no time at all, his age became a huge subject of debate. Just about every sportswriter claimed that Jersey Joe was at least 38 years old. Others said he was 40, or older. Sportswriters dubbed him "Pappy," "elderly," "ancient," and "aging" were commonly used to describe Walcott. Since he was born at home and not in a hospital, he could not prove his age with a birth certificate that was filed when he was born. A birth certificate was finally filed in 1936 when Walcott was in his mid 20s at the Camden Bureau of Vital Statistics." Walcott simply made one up because it was a requirement for the different state boxing commissions. It's all there in Walcott's biography. How does BoxRec know Walcott's age? Was BoxRec at Walcott's home when he was born? Even Jersey Joe Walcott is an invented name. His real name is Arnold Raymond Cream. So if Walcott was at least 38 when he fought Louis in 1947 that would make him at least 43 when he faced Marciano in 1952. Which makes perfect sense when you study Walcott's facial features, and the way his legs started wearing out around the 10th round against Marciano. That's exactly why Walcott got stuck against the ropes during that unlucky 13th. As Rocky slowly shuffled towards Walcott why didn't he move to his left or right like he was previously doing? Because his senior citizen legs were washed, that's why. Hey, it happens to us all. Nobody escapes father time!
Archie Moore (born Archibald Lee Wright; December 13, 1913 or 1916- December 9, 1998) was an American professional boxer and the longest reigning World Light Heavyweight Champion of all time (December 1952 - May 1962). -- written by Wikipedia in the very first paragraph for the Entire World to See! Archie Moore, byname of Archibald Lee Wright, (born Dec. 13, 1913, Benoit, Miss., U.S.-died Dec. 9, 1998, San Diego, Calif.), American boxer, world light-heavyweight champion from Dec. 17, 1952 until 1962. -- written by The Information Architects of Encyclopaedia Britannica for the Entire World to See! Archie Moore's own Mother said he was born December 13, 1913. For heaven's sake, December 13, 1913 was even written in his obituary. After Archie was arrested for stealing, he was sentenced to a three-year term at a reform school in Booneville, Missouri. Even when he was a kid he always insisted that he was born in 1916 in Collinsville, Illinois. But his mother told reporters numerous times that he was actually born in 1913 in Benoit, Mississippi and that she was never in Collinsville. Who to believe? Well all the historical literature believes his mother. And all the Marciano fan-atic's demanded that his birthdate be 1916 to protect their little demigod against senior citizen boxers. And of course BoxRec will believe their fans before the mother because the fans pay their bills. So Moore was actually 41 when he fought Marciano in 1955. I'm slowly unraveling decades of exaggerated hyperbolic bull••••. Even newer Rocky vids exaggerates his accomplishments tenfold just for views. I'm proving how old and bad Marciano's opponents actually were. And I'm not talking about the usual 15 or 20 bad fighters every champion usually faces. I'm talking about 40 of Marciano's opponents were of dubious quality, or just plain undercard B-Level Journeymen bums, of which many were completely controlled by mafioso. It's no wonder he went 49-0, smh.
"Moore, who turned pro in 1936, debuted in the world rankings as a middleweight in the early 1940s. By 1945, Moore moved up to light heavyweight and although he was continually passed over for a title shot, he remained a fixture in the 175-pound rankings. Finally, in 1952, four days after his 39th birthday, Moore secured a shot against light heavyweight champion Joey Maxim. He won the title by decision and held onto it for nearly a decade. In 1955, Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano. Although he dropped Marciano early in the fight, Marciano rallied and stopped Moore in the ninth round. A year later, after Marciano retired, Moore met Floyd Patterson for the vacant heavyweight crown but was stopped in five." -- written by INTERNATIONAL BOXING HALL OF FAME Archie Moore was 39 when he defeated Joey Maxim in 52. And Moore went on to fight Marciano in 55 which makes him 41 years old. The evidence is undeniable.
written by NEW WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA & The Historical Marker Database & African American Registry & BLACKPAST "One of the great light heavyweights of all time, Archie Moore, a.k.a., the “Old Mongoose,” was born under the name of Archibald Wright on December 13, 1913 in Benoit, Mississippi. Archie turned professional in 1936, originally operating in the middleweight ranks, but ultimately moving up into the light heavyweight class by 1945. On December 15, 1952 he became the Light Heavyweight Champion of the World at age 39, defeating Joe Maxim by a decision in fifteen rounds, thereby becoming the oldest light heavyweight champion in history. In 1955, just four months shy of his 42nd birthday, Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano. He decked Marciano in the second round, coming seconds from snatching the coveted title away, before the younger champion recovered and came back to knock him out in the ninth round. Just weeks shy of his 49th birthday in November of 1962, Moore also fought a promising young heavyweight by the name of Cassius Clay." All the historical sites has his birthdate listed December 13, 1913. BoxRec doesn't though, why not? Boxing promoter J. Russell Peltz came across some glaring errors at BoxRec, "mostly in the historical records." ESPN's Dan Rafael noted that "so many people have a hand in BoxRec that the records aren't always accurate. Ricardo Mayorga's record has been wrong for years. There's mistakes on Derrick Gainer's record too." BoxRec website is updated by volunteer editors from many countries around the world. In 2005, BoxRec applied to become recognized as the official record keepers for the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC). The ABC held interviews with both Fight Fax and BoxRec at their 2005 convention. Each applicant made a submission and presentation to the ABC panel which included state commissioners and attorneys. The panel then voted unanimously in favour to award Fight Fax the position. The ABC later revealed that they had undertaken tests to measure the accuracy of the records of the websites and the Fight Fax records were shown to be 100% accurate with BoxRec's being "substantially lower." BoxRec has been criticized for not keeping correct records for boxers, especially historic fighters.
Nope,, he never fought Tyson,Lennox, Evander,Tua, Forman,they would of kill him in the first round,, just like basketball in the 40s 50s Black's weren't allowed in the sport,, same with boxing,, and the Black's that rocky fought were not trained properly at all,, Remember Mafia didn't started in the 90s,, now show me a great white champion in boxing,,none,,just like basketball,,the best are all black,, Jordan, koby,miller,magic,etc etc,
He was short, and his reach was limited ... it's literally UNBELIEVABLE how good he was with what he had He had no business beating the guys he did But he did Larger than life Incredible, truly
You know he is great when he has mutiple of the best knockouts ever and we only have a small selection of his fights as more than half of his fights were never filmed, the films been lost or never recorded after a live airing
Absolutelyyyy Rocky had heart. Just as Joe Frazier was all heart. But look what Big George did to Frazier's heart, bounced it up and down off the canvas like a basket🏀ball. Little Hearts can only take you so far in the land of Bigger Hearts. Size Matters.
Gypsy King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and bewilder him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and smash out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. He ain't getting the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins. Anyway he chooses.
Giant King Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm just so grateful i get to see it in my lifetime. ALL HAIL GOAT KING FURY
Just remember he is being punched in 6oz gloves with some fighters above the weight of average heavyweights today and he went down twice in his entire career and then went on to knock out both of them in spectacular fashion. Imagine him now, how scary it would be to face him in 12oz gloves knowing nothing is going to knock him down and he will be hitting around 100 times a round every round.
Despite Rocky's humble modest demeanor, he had intense pride, desire, courage and every other intangible a champion manifests. His physique was quite adequate for what he needed to do with it. If you look closely at him, he is built perfectly, the way a powerful man should be built.
Never thought I could learn so much about a fighter from a single video - and I've been a boxing fan for 60+ years. Great job, to say the least! Thanks!
@@KickingAssDaily He didn’t want to kill other minorities on behalf of racist white people! And he didn’t want to kill representing a country who didn’t even give him equal rights. Only idiots like you would believe that Ali wasn’t brave. He was far braver to face down the US government than if he volunteered to fight a stupid oppressive war.
@@studentofklausschwab4674 Ali was trash..such a hero he turned Muslim to avoid fighting for the military..Hendrix went to the military 🤣 Ali was so punch drunk they called it Parkinsons and I humbly thank Frazier,Foreman,Tunney and many others for that..he deserved the hell he lived with..F your feelings
Sweet. I love how you break down the subtle and often overlooked details to figure out the formula of each fighter’s technique and how they made themselves so great. Also Rocky having a custom 300 pound bag to practice on for power is insane. Marciano really was a beast
I read a book on his life what a beautiful gentle soul his was ,besides a brilliant boxer, no one had a bad word to say about, ti's, Gentlemen ,RIP Hero
Rocky Marciano was a light heavyweight fighting at heavyweight which makes him a special champion. He wasn't a 1 or 2 punch knockout fighter. He won with an accumulation of hard punches. He won by attrition.
@The Angry GrizzlyReread! Rocky's size and frame was small for heavyweight. His normal weight was 180 lbs which is very light for a heavyweight. He would bulk up to 187/188 lbs for most of his pro fights. That's why I said he was a special heavyweight. Research, Angry!
@The Angry Grizzly Nobody cares what his walking around weight was!!! Is that understood!!! And your research are not others research!!! Is that understood!!! Now quit waiting and watching everybody's comments just to attack them!!!
I believe that the GOAT Single Knock Out Punch was delivered by Rocky Marciano against Joe Walcott in their 1st fight in the 13th round, when Walcott was clearly dominating Marciano before he was KO into another dimension before he was revived by smelling salts. Rocky had no problem knocking out his opponents with 1 punch. I think you're confusing him with Ali who needed a flurry of combination punches to KO his opponents. Ali's 2nd fight against Liston doesn't count as Liston clearly took a dive and his acting performance was about as convincing as Amber Heards crying with no tears.
Your videos are simply the best and you never miss a beat my friend. So spot on with what made this man great. I will always look at him as like you said, the perfect template for shorter stockier heavyweights. In my whole amateur boxing run and now my amateur MMA run, I have always been an undersized heavyweight. Funny enough, I'm 5'11 with a 67" reach. I'm Italian too and really encorporate his methods and style in my fights in any combat sport. I may not have all the talent in the world, but by god my conditioning and willingness to win will get me there.
Remember... this guy was essentially a cruiser weight, but had power that would decimate heavyweights, unreal... when Ali says "I don't know who would've won.." he's not only being respectful, he's telling the truth as he knows it...
Ali was promoting The Super Fight, the movie he and Marciano appeared in about their hypothetical, computer-determined fight. He got a percentage of the profits, so he wasn’t going to spoil it for the audience. Also, he didn’t know who would have won because the fight never happened, and never could have. As strong as his ego, and as competitive as he was, Ali actually liked Marciano, and wasn’t going to trash the man who died three weeks after filming ended. Ali clearly BELIEVED he would have won; he was not shy about proclaiming himself the GOAT.
Thank you sir so very much for this excellent and comprehensive review of Marciano's fighting style. Your's is the best analysis of Rocky I've ever seen. There is so much nonsense on RUclips it's refreshing to hear a true knowledgeable expert. In my teen years I was an amateur boxer (never pro) and a life long boxing fan. Again your review of Marciano is spot on. The big topic concerning Rocky is the decades old question "could Marciano have beaten Ali". Your excellent report on Marciano causes me to lean 51 / 49 Ali. I have no where close to your analytical skills but I figured out years ago how to analyze great fighters and it couldn't be easier let their opponents do it for you. If I wanted to know about Ali I simply listened to what his opponents said about him. Now your report on Marciano is so cool because it shames all the lazy sports media. In other words everyone knew what a devastating power puncher Rocky was. But as you point out there so much more to him than that. As you show us in your report it was boxing SKILLS that put him over the top not only his power. The same with Ali all the simple minded knew how big (a shade over 6 foot 3) and lightening fast he was but he had even more . What I'm about to say is why I would give Ali a slight edge over Marciano. To learn this I've listened extensively to what his opponents said about him. 100 percent of Ali's opponents said "he hit from angles I did not know existed." Next they would say " I got hit tonight with a lot of punches I never saw coming. If I may be so bold to suggest that is what made Ali such a devastating opponent. If you were to give me a letter grade I may have been a B+ amateur boxer (at best) but I know enough to know when you're getting hit with PUNCHES YOU DON'T SEE COMING you become tentative and cautious. You attack less you cover more and this also messes with your head. How am I getting hit with so many punches I don't see coming is not a very comforting thing to ask yourself during a fight. As you point out rope a dope would not have been an option for Ali Marciano hit too damn hard Ali's arms would have been limp noodles by the 10'th round. I believe Ali could have avoided Rocky and got enough of his shots in to win a close unanimous decision. But be beware Ali one careless mistake could land you on the canvas dreaming of enchanted forests with pretty girls running around. I will certainly look forward to more of your reports.
@@coreyham3753 he always wanted to outdue Lewis's training when he got started. Whatever they ran he ran double. Whatever they sparred he also went more. I never knew though he fought in the military. That's something!
1:30 LaStarza was someone who was hit on the arm repeatedly and he suffered a hairline fracture, elbow chipped and forearm broke, he also reputered blood vessels in his arm and Marciano had caused him to we e blood after the fight. Another two people famously had the same treatment where both 6ft 4.5 with over 80 inch reaches, one had to have extensive surgery on their arm and the other was paralysed.
@James T Finnegan You're obviously just bitter. Rocky was the greatest. He actually knocked out a T-Rex in his amateur days, you can look it up. There's no film of it, obviously, because it was 65 million years ago, but it definitely happened.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici it's amazing you wrote mutiple paragraphs and said nothing, except hyperbole, such a shame, now go away and look stuff up instead of being un-justly angry
What a legendary fighter and even better human. Rocky cried after the Joe Louis fight that alone should tell you the kind of man he was. Gone way ahead of his time. RIP Rocky.
Nice to see Rocky getting some credit for his defense these days. The talk was always about his freak power and great stamina. This is a great channel.
I forget which of his opponents said it, but he pointed out that Rocky always _looked_ like was taking more punishment than he was. And it wasn't just that he had a granite chin (though he did); it was also that his crouch, his head movement, his solid defense, all meant that opponents could hit him, but they couldn't get _solid_ hits, and most punches that he didn't block outright basically glanced off him without doing any real damage. Rocky could never outpoint opponents because his short reach meant he would inevitably be hit because he had to be in range of his longer-armed opponents. Since avoiding punches entirely wasn't in the cards, he developed a solid technique for minimizing the effectiveness of his opponents' punches. Then his stamina allowed him to wear them down beating on their arms if he couldn't hit anything else, until they were so battered both their arms would be solid masses of pain, and they couldn't defend themselves effectively anymore. Then, if he hadn't managed a good, fight-stopping punch earlier, he'd create an opening and finish them off with one-punch knock out power, that he kept all the way to the end of the fight.
I remember there was a time when Mariano was overrated, especially for Italian Americans, he was the greatest ever, 49-0, and so on. Now he's criminally underrated, he's undersized, only fought old men, and so on. Truth is he was a great heavyweight, pound for pound also one of the greatest, not the greatest, but a legend none the least. A true testament of how far grit and determination can bring a man.
Marciano is the greatest, simply put the best heavyweight since Marciano still is nowhere close to his record. Wilder and Fury were close but that draw makes it impossible to match. Even still I doubt Uysk will match Marciano in the end.
@@Alex-cw3rz Mike Tyson fans act like he can knock any boxer in history out when Mike at his best couldn’t even KO Tucker, Tillis, Green, or Bonecrusher, ye he beat them but still not by KO, Mike fans I’ve seen before kept saying he could KO Ali or Foreman, like bro how? Not to mention Mike didn’t exactly fight the best of the best, his Gen (80s) wasnt that good.
Watching Marciano is like seeing a ufo. You can’t believe what your eyes are telling you. He doesn’t look like a heavyweight, he isn’t as muscularly defined as most boxers, although always trim, and he doesn’t look like he’d be a big puncher at all. Yet he had massive power in both hands. And he literally never stopped throwing heavy punches all night long. His stamina was incredible. There must be a ‘way’ that big punchers throw their punches, that explains why Marciano could hit like a far, far bigger heavyweight. And you can see he’s hunting you down every second, looking to destroy. He knew very well that he only needed to get a good shot on and the fight may be won on that shot. He was always looking to land his ‘suzie Q’ ! 💥🥊
A true master of strategy in the ring. He just looks so awkward until you see the strategic plan behind and the actual flow of his awkward seeming moves. Beautiful. Thank you so much for this.
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Not so. If that were true, several of those master fighters would have taken him out many times over. He moved like he did to throw off the other fighters attacks and set himself up for those famous punches of his. His moves were quite coordinated. Ergo his amazing record.
Rocky lived, breathed, and ate training and conditioning, year around, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for eight years. Dan Cuoco of the International Boxing Research Organisation put it best: “No fighter ever approached training and conditioning with the same fanticism Rocky did. Even when he wasn’t in camp training for a fight, his conditioning and training routines were more than any other fighter did in camp.” Rocky’s conditioning was simply a level above anyone else’s, ever Rocky was a relentless, highly conditioned, extremely powerful fighter who depended on an iron chin, his conditioning, to keep him firing away as well in the 15th as he was in the first, enormous strength, and a right hand which was as good a punch as boxing has ever seen. Budd Schulberg, award-winning screenwriter and boxing fanatic, correlated Marciano’s capability of grinding down an opponent to a: “hydraulic drill attacking a boulder.” Arthur Daley exalted him as a: “perpetual motion punching machine.” Rocky was a fanatic and dedicated trainee. Marciano’s boundless reserves of stamina explained his overpoweringly swarming style and his remarkable recuperative powers meant he was seldom troubled with any sort of fatigue. Dan Cuoco of the International Boxing Research Organisation explained Marciano's success thusly: “What Rocky Marciano gave up in height and reach he more than made up with one punch knockout power, extraordinary strength and stamina, an insatiable will to win, mental toughness and plenty of guts…Although he missed a lot his savage body attack would wear his opponents down. What he lacked in speed, he more than made up for by the volume of punches he threw. When he was caught with a good punch, his world class chin held up admirably.” Rocky's trainer, the highly respected Charley Goldman, originally just laughed at the challenge facing him. But after a number of years of working with the dedicated Rocky he remarked: “I got a guy who is short, stoop-shouldered and balding with two left feet, (Rocky’s victims) all look better than he does as far as moves are concerned, but they don’t look so good (laying) on the canvas.” Rocky at 5'10 1/2" with the shortest reach of any champion, would almost always be undersized in comparisons with other champions, historically. But he is actually a half inch taller than Mike Tyson, though his reach was 3 inches shorter. Still, heart, toughness, relentless motor, unmatched conditioning, desire, all have to count - Rocky had one style, and one motor. He went after his opponent, as Ali once said: “he was the toughest, most determined fighter I ever saw. He was tougher than Joe Frazier, and I didn’ t think that was possible!" Rocky was a man with an inhuman will, and desire to win, that fueled his fanatic training Cus D’Amato, Mike Tyson’s surrogate father and the man who molded him into the youngest world heavyweight champion, was asked once to explain how a small heavyweight like Rocky could be so dominant. He replied: “When men of near equal skill meet- the man with the superior "will to win" -will win every time, unless the man's skill is so far above that of his opponent that his will is not tested…Rocky had that superior will to win.” Pulitzer Prize winner Red Smith said of Rocky: “Rocky couldn't box like [Gene] Tunney, and probably couldn't hit like [Joe] Louis, but in one respect he had no challenger. He was the toughest, strongest, most completely dedicated fighter who ever wore gloves. Fear wasn't in his vocabulary and pain had no meaning." His training regamin was inhuman Rocky Marciano is an example of old fashioned training, which was far more intense than the “science based training “ of today. Charlie Goldman told Rocky from his first day with him: you know you’re a short, bald, fat guy. You ain’t got a lot of speed. Are you willing to put in the hours, and days, and months, and years, to bring what you do got to the top?” And Marciano did. In between fights he trained harder than 99% of fighters do in fight camp In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, he would run 6-7 miles a day. His uncle, Charlie Piccento, said he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one. And that was in between fights, not in training camp. Rocky also did calisthenics and other conditioning exercises in between fights. He would work the heavy bag especially, (in his case, the heavy bag was REALLY heavy!), just to help stay in top shape. His normal weight, with no discernible fat, was 205, and he made sure he never gained a pound over that in between fights. When he went to training camp, Rocky became a warrior-monk.
Do one on Joe Calzaghe. He fought with a broken left hand nearly his entire career yet accumulated a great KO ratio and retire undefeated. Probably the most underrated fighter in boxing history. :)
This was a great video! I guess it was recommended to me because I’ve watch a few boxing videos recently (about Tyson and Foreman specifically) - so thanks RUclips! I loved the breakdown. I so admire the relentless fearless style that guys like Marciano had - but now I also have an appreciation for the technical aspects of his fighting which made him so great.
You brought up some very interesting and vital points in the Art of Rocky's movement ,, defense,, how he attacked With rear foot slide ,, very good eyes you Have in picking out these fine Scientific points Marciano had ,, Good job !!!
It comes as a shock that both George Foreman and Ken Norton would be two of the lightest fighters the Klitschko brothers have ever faced. George Foreman, whom they called "Big George" had an average median weight of 217 lbs through the entire 1970s. Foreman would be in the BOTTOM-3 of Vitali Klitshcko's LIGHTEST opponents he ever faced. And Ken Norton (208 lbs) would be in Wladimir Kliitschko's BOTTOM-2 LIGHTEST opponents he ever faced.
yeah interesting however this was foreman as a younger man rember they fought at that weight for a reason at that time , look at andy ruize fighting at 240 plus and his no taller than foreman or knorton ,when holmes fought in the 1990s he was alot bigger than his seventies and eightes weight wasnt he ,thats the weight they choose to fight at that time ,i think buster mathhus weihed alot in the 70s that didnt help him againdt fraizer, ,Anthony joshua weight and height didnt he;p him against uyske
Rocky Marciano was the best conditioned Heavyweight Champion of all time. He was just as powerful in the 15th Round, if you made that far, as he was in the first round.
I must admit I always considered the key to Rocky's success being his insurmountable endurance. He'd simply overwhelm his opponents setting a pace they couldn't match, which wouldn't work against the better skilled opponents of modern times. But seems I underestimated the level of the Boston Blockbuster's technique and the nuances of it. Very interesting video.
Well when you already ran 6-7 hours BEFORE even in a training camp (where he ran 10 miles in camp to 15 miles on the last week then walked another 10 miles in the night EVERY SINGLE DAY), having already stellar conditioning before training does help his legs from turning to rubber mid fight.
White man have been always cheating with steroids,,Rocky was on steroids,,just like All the Olympic medallist in that era,, know that everyone knows about steroids even Mexico has gold metal,, before only Germany, Russia,and off course USA,,
One thing I loved is that when Rocky’s opponent falls, he knows that it’s enough, and he walks away because he knows that they fell, so he doesn’t need to keep hitting them
Marciano gets a bad rap because he was short and has short arms, not realising this was his biggest advantage he was perfect for inside boxing. And people think he couldn't deal with the bigger taller guys today, the tallest person he fought was 6ft 4.5 with over 80 inch reach and he paralysed the person in 4 rounds, the other person 6ft 4.5 person he fought for 6 rounds before a TKO, had to have extensive surgery on his arm. His heavy bag was 270lbs nowadays a heavy bag in 100lbs and he was making that bag swing more than most heavyweight can make an 100lb bag wing. He retired more careers than any other boxer in history and he broke more bones than any other boxer in history. His is a legend
I mean saying he'd be competitive against a giant like Fury is being a bit generous. But Marciano for his weight and height would be an insanely formidable modern cruiserweight.
@@RJALEXANDER777 Fury himself said he does worse against shorter opponents, Marciano did better the taller the person got, it allowed him to jump into range from further and it made it much easier to fight on the inside. Do you not think he'd put on at least 10lbs and go into heavyweight... The dudes an inside boxer, they are not even common anymore he would dominate heavyweight, he hit harder than anyone else there and couldn't be knocked out in 6 oz gloves what do you think 12 oz gloves would be a problem for him...
Thank you so much for this great breakdown! You only hear the name, the numbers, the stories. This footage and explanation of Marcianos tactics and style are a great service towards his fans, boxing scholars and to his legacy!
Rocky was my late father's favourite boxer and so naturally became mine. Even today, when so many great boxers have come and gone, Rocky is still up there as a favourite. He is a legend.
YES!!! I've been waiting for this since I first subscribed to your channel! Rocky is my favorite boxer of all time. If you're a shorter fighter out there - this man is your template! I was often rebuked for intuitively using some of these tactics (shuffle step, exaggerated head roll to mask the rear overhand) by conventional "instructors"...which only served to put me right in front of their jab so they could bloody my nose more efficiently. Once I fought a fellow MA-boy who was like trying to hit smoke but hit like a hammer. He turned me on to Rocky. I started studying him and it clicked - I instantly adopted so much of his style. Not to say that I'm any good, but I am normally the smaller guy in the fight and you have to play to your strengths - Rocky's style did that in spades for me. Thank you so much for finally breaking him down and doing it so well. It's appalling and annoying to hear people disrespect his 49-0 record as anything other than an amazing athletic accomplishment so thank you, thank you, thank you!
This was an eye-opening presentation, highly insightful, and shows nuances that all I had read about Marciano lead me to believe his style did not have. Brilliant.
Nov 1990 Ring magazine issue has an interview with Roland Lastarza about the two Marciano fights. About their 1st fight Rollie said that Rocky was unusually cautious in the early rounds. "I wondered what he was up to, I'd thought he would come at me, bombing away. When I saw him jabbing and trying to box, I didn't know whether it was a trap or not. So I just stood back and did what I'd planned to do, jab and move." (Marciano was warned 5 times for low blows in the first 5 rds and the 6th rd was given to Lastarza for fouls.) Lastarza recalled, "I knew how close the fight was, everyone did. But overall I'm sure as income taxes that I outscored him. "I honestly feel I was the winner. The Associated Press had it 5-4-1 for me. Every reporter gave me the decision. They said I was robbed." The close decision went to Marciano 5-4-1, 4-5-1 the ref scored draw. "Before the first fight Al Weill promised us a return immediately if the fight was close. The next day he said, "We don't want to go back"..After that he avoided us like the plague. I did get frustrated here was Marciano making a bundle while I was fighting for peanuts." Lastarza discounted the stories about the damage Marciano supposedly inflicted on his arms in their second fight. "There was a rumor after the fight that he hurt my shoulders and arms a lot, but the truth was that I had weak elbows from the fight before, and they were giving me trouble. They really went bad during the training before the Marciano fight. With the state of my elbows I really could not give a good account of myself. During the fight I was under the influence of pain-killers and I really needed them." "Marciano couldn't hit me on the behind for the first five rounds.Then in the sixth I got a shot on my bad elbow, the strength went out of me, and I just stood there from then on. I couldn't move, I took it for five more rounds. They claimed he was punishing me instead of kayoing me, but he was doing his damndest to knock me out, and he couldn't do it for those five rounds because I took a good punch. I was still standing when they stopped the fight." Lastarza was interviewed by James Dusgate
Archie Moore fought clay and marciano said clay would win ,and walcot who fought marciano and refereed clay and liston said ali was better than all of them and that includes joe louis who he fought as well
rocky reportedly fought his brother four times under different names in the ring magazine according to Larry Holmes ,were exhibitions were included in his fights
It's so good to see that you understand the talent Rocco had, he is my favorite fighter ever, the more you study him the more you realize how great he was, the greatest fighter ever.
The scoring for the bout was 5-4, 4-5, and 5-5, a draw between LaStarza vs Marciano. But LaStarza lost on a very controversial supplemental point system used by New York only at that time ..LUBEK'S THREELOGY, THE SWEET SCIENCE 2: Jan Lubek - 2013 · Biography & Autobiography. "Supplemental points system used by NY from 1920's until 1980's was misused, it was a joke to please boxing's lowlife, aka lowly elements".. What had happened was Roland LaStarza refused to pay Mafioso a % percentage. Al Weill, Rocky's Mafioso manager and matchmaker at the Garden was already receiving 50% of Marciano's income so he was good to go. Now y'all finally understand the truth about why LaStarza was robbed of his draw. With a record of 48-0-1 little Rocky wouldn't even be ranked top 20. That 49-0 is the only reason Marciano still exist top 10. Supplemental point system = Mafioso
The biggest weapon Rocky had was his size and how he mastered his weight shifting and stamina. I'm a retired charity boxer. 31-1-0 with 28 KOs, fought at 5'10" and 235. I'm a decently stocky guy. The main thing I learned in my career was how to use your size and weight as the weapon. His shifting his weight basically turned ALL of his punches into throwing wrecking balls at his opponent. Something similar to what Jack Dempsey did. Marciano compacted a lot of Dempsey's theory and style to work with his size with or without realizing it. His unusual shifting turned him into an extremely dangerous pendulum and when he targeted his opponent's arms to deaden them, all of that power from his shifting amplified several fold. I always loved how he fought since I adapted a combination of Marciano, Dempsey, Tyson and Hearns. I'm not a super tall guy, but I learned how to throw my weight and aim for the right spots to destroy what came my way when I needed to. But yeah, from what I learned from watching his fights was that he basically became a pendulum of doom with no room for stopping until the other guy fell and that was it.
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
Absolutelyyyy Rocky had heart. Just as Joe Frazier was all heart. But look what Big George did to Frazier's heart, bounced it up and down off the canvas like a basket🏀ball. Little Hearts can only take you so far in the land of Bigger Hearts. Size Matters.
I am not a trained boxer and don’t have insights on boxing ways.. previously i thought rocky was just flailing his arm around landing punches by chance… but this video enlightened me.. i can truly appreciate and understand the techniques rocky used!! Genius!!
@@Alex-cw3rz it’s more about use, flat footed vs on your toes, one is for more power and the other is better for footwork (generally but not always) and faster punching. Flat foot also uses less energy.
🔷James D. Norris was president of the International Boxing Club of New York from 1949 to 1958. The IBC dominated boxing in the U.S. in the 1950s, but was dissolved by the courts, which ruled it to be a monopoly. As president of the IBC, Norris was involved with organized crime figures. Norris was responsible for fixing numerous bouts. Besides match fixing, he was also unofficially managing many boxers against their will. The mob controlled it all, from the trainers and managers to the reporting journalists, with a combination of intimidation and financial backing ensuring everybody the mob wanted was under their control. Every day the evidence stacked up against mafioso bosses Palermo and Carbo particularly, with a list of their associates touching almost every major player in 1950’s boxing. Eventually the verdict was damning; 25 years in Alcatraz for Carbo, 15 years in prison for Palermo. Rocky visited both in prison numerous times. Italian Rocco Francis Marchegiano aka Rocky Marciano was a protected fighter. Entire eastern seaboard was Italian, it was all Italian. Even the commissioner of boxing was Italian. Al Weill, Rocky's Mafioso manager and matchmaker at the Garden was already receiving 50% of Marciano's income so the Rock was good to go. Others were not so lucky because they refused to pay their dues like Roland LaStarza,, and that's exactly why he lost 1st fight vs Marciano. It's been proven that Eldridge Eatman and Pete Louthis Took-a-Dive vs Rocky.
Archie Moore was born December 13, 1913. Light heavy champ Moore moved up in weight to fight Marciano at the age of 41. Imagine if Marciano was 41 and moved up in weight to fight 32 year old Moore. The fallacy that Moore & Walcott peaked at 40+ years old is a misleading unsound argument and scientifically impossible.
RIP Sir. He is for certain the true meaning of the word Gentleman. Incredible boxer, and a great man. There hasn't been anyone like him since. Thank You very much for the video, and analysis. Liked, and Shared.
I have defended Rocky Marciano's name for an entire decade, and he will always be my favorite bar none. But two of the ATG fighters that Rocky did face were light heavyweights that simply gained a few pounds, then moved up for the money because the 50s heavy division was completely void of any quality authentic 200+ lb "Heavyweights"
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
People say he only beat Joe Louis because he was old, but keep in mind Joe Louis was on a 8 win streak at this time and was 37 not even old for a heavyweight
Wow didnt realize Rocky had fighting mechanics ahead of his time. He was among the prime boxers who used their popularity to move a great cause, he was active in promoting American Heart Assn., Red Cross and US Army
You have a knack for showing the obvious from the not so obvious when it comes to boxing.. I knew in watching countless times that Marciano didnt get hit nearly as often as was his undeserved reputation for having no defence, and he rarely got hit with a combination. He was in fact more defensively responsible than lets say Joe Frazier, who had a similar style...this is why when people match him with other fighters like, lets say Liston when both are in their prime, it wouldnt have been a forgone conclusion as some think..I remember seeing Marciano introduced into the ring in the Liston Patterson fight and when rocky goes to liston to wish him luck, he looks the same size...in this fight for example, Liston would have more trouble I think than people realize...certainly if Marciano go get to the 5th round without taking too much damage Liston gets in deeper dangerous water, each preceding round...Look what happened after Walcott floors rocky in the first round...Walcott has enormous difficulty hitting him again in that round, as Marciano stifles Walcott's progress...nice analysis.
Foreman said Liston was the only fighter that made him back up in the ring & that Sonny was stronger & had more power than any Heavyweight Boxer he ever sparred or fought against. Walcott knocked Marciano down to the canvas with an average punch at best. Liston knocked Patterson out twice in the 1st round in both of their title fights. Rocky was a very slow fighter who didn't fight good in the early rounds of his Title Fights. It's laughable that you're saying Marciano looked like the same size as Liston. Sonny was 6'1.5" at 215lb with an 84" reach and 15" fist size. Rocky was 5'10" at 184lb with a 67" reach & a 11.5 fist size(Rocky was the smallest heavyweight with the smallest hands & shortest reach in Boxing History.) Sonny had the biggest hands & one of the longest reaches of any heavyweight champion. Liston was at least 40 years old when he fought against a 22 year old Ali on 2/25/1964 and he had pulled a tendon in his left shoulder in training camp prior to their fight. Sonny's handlers filed a petition for a medical postponement with the Florida Boxing Commission which was denied and he was told if he didn't fight against Ali on their scheduled fight date, that he would be stripped of his Title. Liston had torn the tendon inhis left shoulder completely off the bone by the end of the 5th round and it bled into his left bicep, making it virtualy impossible to throw a left jab and to use it to block Ali's punches. Sonny ended up quitting on his stool by the end of the 6th round a beaten & broken man. The Prime Sonny Liston from 1958-1962 would've beaten a prime Marciano from 1951-1955 in my opinion. The fight wouldn't go past 3 rounds. Marciano never fought against a real heavyweight fighter in their prime, hence his chin was never tested against the most powerful heavyweight Boxers from the 50s like Liston, Williams & Valdes. Patterson was much quicker than Rocky and fundamentally a much better Boxer and he didn't last more than 1 round against Liston.
Rocky was definitely the greatest heavyweight Champion. He did things that other fighters couldn't accomplish like getting low and coming up to hit. That creates better defense and made him hard to hit. His Sunday punch was devastating and sharp; which caught many fighters by surprise. He was better than my favorite boxer, Smokin' Joe Frazier. He was much better than the big mouth fighters who run around the ring and claim to be to the best like the "Louisville lip". So far no boxer comes close to Marciano; he's the best EVER and undefeated; 49-0.
He was good but let’s not take the piss, he’s FAR from the greatest heavyweight boxer to the point where it isn’t even a question you’re just flat up wrong. There’s like a million fighters who could get low and come up to hit, Muhammad Ali with the flu, and years past his prime would beat prime Marciano in an EASY 15 round UD, without losing a round, Ali beat the likes of Prime Foreman, Prime Frazier, Prime Liston, Prime Chuvalo, Prime Cooper, Terrel, Williams Folley, Bonavena, Patterson, Quarry, Foster, Norton, Lyle, Spinks, and Shavers. Who did Marciano beat? Louis was further past his prime than literally any boxer ever. His only two DECENT wins are a past his prime Ezzard Charles and past his prime Joe Walcott. Marciano’s best wins wouldn’t even be top 15 of Ali’s wins. Ali is better than Marciano in every single way other than power. And it’s insulting to even compare them, let alone rank Marciano higher.
Quit whatever it is that you taking, and open up your eyes. Frazier would have beat him at least 7 of 10 times. Liston would have made a punk out of him! Educate yourself, go through his fights on "Boxing Record" on the net, and read my post on this. Read the commentary on his 21st fight against Ted Lowry whos record was 64-49-9 when they fought, and how he had Marciano kocked out in three different rounds, but the mob had paid him $2,500 to lose...If you can't figure that one out, you have problems. (the only reason, was because they knew this fighter with 49 losses was a danger to this no talent thug getting knocked out!) I believed all the hype most of my life, about his ability, but I never believe he could have beat Liston, Ali or Frazier and Foreman. But with all the info Boxing Rec gave me, I know realize how big a fabracation his careear was. He doesn't even rate in the top 10. He wouldn't even fight Cleveland Williams, the hard hitting heavy who was in his prime; Liston destroyed the "Big Cat" twice...and when Liston won the title, Marciano came up with excuses as to why he was dropping his return to the ring, that he started when the light hitting Johannson was champ. He knew, and his mob handlers knew his phoney ass couldn't stand up to a true heavy that had power!....its the same as the BS about Mantle hitting a 600 ft HR
And he never had to contend with Muhammad Ali. He got most of his opponents from the old folks home. That's all there was left for him to fight though. Can't blame him for having the Larry Holmes problem. Holmes had the same issue of unworthy opponents. He never got a real good rival. Walcott came the closest though, and he was like 40 years old at the time. Walcott had the speed and dancing style of Muhammad Ali, but he was significantly slower and smaller than Ali was. That's why most people think Ali would have danced circles around Rocky. A real good test of Marciano would have been Joe Frazier. That would have been a bloodbath! Both guys coming at each other head on with power , so much power! And I always wonder how rocky would have stood up to George Foreman's power. That would have been a real chin test! I think George would have been easy pickings for Rocky if he'd made it past the first three rounds, he would have tired George out just like Muhammad Ali did.
@@paysonfox88 Still with this old excuse ?? The truth is that you Americans don't like the fact that a white Italian is the greatest heavyweight of all time. especially the black americans you tried to get over rocky from that ridiculous floyd who says he made 50-0 ahahaahaha, yes, however, in featherweights and buying matches.
@@paysonfox88 An Italian white is the greatest of all time and is undefeated in the heavyweights. It's time for Americans to accept it, especially black Americans.
Didn't small 182 lb Patterson KO the ATG Archie Moore in only 5 rounds when it took unproven Marciano 9 rounds? "I felt Floyd Patterson is a vastly improved fighter. He has potentialities of being a great fighter when he gets some experience. I felt confident I could beat him, but I also learned that youth can be too much." - Archie Moore Rocky fans are screaming, "HOW WAS ROCKY UNPROVEN". Well Charles & Moore received their ATG status at light heavyweight not heavyweight. ATG Walcott was old man at 43, and ATG Louis was ring-worn and washed.. Marciano was Unproven!!!
Even when Rocky wins he is a bum to you. He did win and fought most of his opponents more heavy than him. Several of his opponents talked smack and said he was nothing, almost as bad as you do. Have you noticed you are out-numbered with the people sending you text. Also, it is possible that if he was in a lighter division that no one would have wanted to fight him. He took more hits than anyone I saw and kept coming. Amazing to me at least.
@black David How could have been the "smallest cruiserweight division of all time." when in fact there was no such division? You make no sense what so ever.
I think one other interesting thing about how he held his head which allowed him to tuck his chin in so you could only hit the top of his head which is the hardest part of your skull, Tyson Fury uses this technique competely different style of fighters, but both know that it doesn't matter if you lose height when you can't get knocked out.
Such good analysis on this channel... thank you for opening my eyes to the innovative techniques that Rocky implemented... something not mentioned that stands out to me, is that Tyson also used a lot of lateral off-the-line movement when and low head to get within range against taller punchers, and then also unleashed a lot of circular punches with his whole body weight behind them.
Don't let anyone tell you different, Marciano faced some very formidable hall of fame opponents. Walcott and Charles were not washed up when they fought him. They both fought the first fight brilliantly. While Rocky stopped the old mongoose it was a grueling fight. At first Moore seemed the better boxer but the Blockbuster would not be stopped. His incredible conditioning and brutal punching were all to much for Archie. Rocky defined what the heart of a champion is in this fight.
He should have fought Liston or Patterson. Patterson he may beat but Liston is too strong for Marciano. All those 49 fights they shown five of them, where are the rest of the highlights, Charles, Walcott, Lastarza, Louis, Lane are the only ones they have shown
@@whitneywilliams317 Even Sonny Liston said of Marciano, "This was one of the greatest champions ever. He refused to accept defeat. And no one ever beat him."
@@ThouSwell-zx3fd yeah, but they never fought so we'll never know who's better, but if I were a betting man, I'd out my money Liston, he's literally to strong for Marciano, just an opinion tho
Honestly I think this is your best breakdown to date. Most people seem rocky as a brute. However this breakdown really show what a great fighter he was and how high his fight IQ was.
I can tell a lot of these commentators did not watch the footage. This proves Rocky's skill, tactics, conditioning and power are all top tier. People bringing up taller foes wouldnt matter when hes implementing this style of fighting. The fact spectators and boxers think he has no skill, is why he would destroy them. They have zero clue what he's doing. All they know is the pain of the hammers.
1:30 the person who he consistently punched in the arm was 6ft 4.5 had a well over 80 inch reach and the guy had to have extensive surgery on his arm after 6 rounds before being KO'd and only had one fight after Marciano, he got out lucky as the other guy he fought who was 6ft 4.5 and over an 80 inch reach Marciano paralysed one of 18 careers Marciano ended. LaStarza who also got the arm treatment, had a hairline fracture, elbow chipped and forearm broke, he also reputered blood vessels in his arm and Marciano had caused him to we e blood after the fight.
I posted this a while back - he did some training in a pool wading in deep water. He would wade end to end throwing punches underwater. This is from a book on his life, a bio of sorts with input from Rocky. I cannot recall the title but I do recall he had other other different training ways.
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he is like a shotgun
Your analysis is superb.
Never really been a BOXING or Martial arts FANATIC, though I respect the Science...
That being said, I DID watch alot of USA Fri Night Bouts ...
YOU Sir have broken this LEGENDS style down in a way better than I've ever seen!!!!
GREAT JOB!!!
Can you breakdown Rocky Marciano vs Jack Dempsey?
That’s a fight that usually splits the boxing community.
However more favour Marciano nowadays because there’s virtually no one left alive that can remember a prime Dempsey
T-Rex arms
He was a very kind boxer he never went in for trash talk and was very sensitive, after paralysing a fighter he cried in hospital and stayed with the guy. He also cried when he beat Joe Louis as he knew he'd ended a brilliant boxers career.
Can’t help but notice from all these footage that Rocky seems to have the habit of immediately backing away from his opponent the moment they go down (with the exception of that one hit to Joe Walcott). The sportsmanship he displays is definitely notable.
@@intheorigin0728 To be fair the count only starts when you are in the neutral corner :P
@@eddy-currents not true.
A man who rose above typical masculinity. Now I have even more respect for him.
Didn't he fight the same guy 5 times? He also fought guys with 50 and 60 losses. #Funfacts
One of Marciano's opponents, non other than Joe Louis, said "he doesn't fight by the book, but I got hit by a library today".
I love this quote 😂 it was probably a library from hell 💀
178 to 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano's opponents (not in exact order): *We see their entire-CAREER record, not a partial record.* Seeing a boxers complete resume gives a more accurate evaluation of how good, or how bad they are. Pro boxers can easily be evaluated using grades *A, B, C, D, F* which have been used for decades:
Lee Epperson career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Weeks career record 0 wins 1 loss *F-LEVEL*
Gilbert Cardone career record 0 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
John Edwards career record 1 win 2 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bill Hardeman career record 1 win 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
Humphrey Jackson career record 4 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Haft career record 12 wins 7 losses *F-LEVEL*
James Connolly career record 12 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harry Bilazarian career record 15 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Bob Jefferson career record 3 wins 10 losses *F-LEVEL*
Harold Mitchell career record 7 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gilley Ferron career record 4 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Artie Donato career record 7 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
Johnny Pretzie career record 10 wins 14 losses *F-LEVEL*
Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Pete Louthis career record 32 wins 14 losses *D-LEVEL*
Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Kenne Simmons career record 9 wins 22 losses *F-LEVEL*
Art Henri career record 18 wins 29 losses *F-LEVEL*
Jimmy Walls career record 21 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry career record 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Ted Lowry (twice) 71 wins 68 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino career record 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Gino Buonvino (twice) 24 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
Joe Dominic career record 18 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
Eldridge Eatman career record 22 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
Willis Applegate career record 12 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
Lee Savold career record 104 wins 45 losses *D-LEVEL*
Phil Muscato career record 56 wins 23 losses *D-LEVEL*
Bill Wilson career record 56 wins 27 losses *D-LEVEL*
Johnny Shkor career record 31 wins 19 losses *D-LEVEL*
Fred Beshore career record 35 wins 17 losses *D-LEVEL*
Jimmy Evans 18 wins 8 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Eddie Ross 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bob Quinn 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Bernie Reynolds 53 wins 13 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 30 opponents with 15 fights or less.*
Pat Richards 24 wins 9 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 20 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Carmine Vingo 16 wins 2 losses looks good until you see *ALL 16 wins came against F-LEVEL opponents.*
Don Cockell 66 wins 14 losses looks okay until you see the majority of his career was at middleweight and light heavyweight. *By the time he faced Marciano he was suffering from severe glandular disorders that wreaked havoc with his physique. He was sallow-skinned, fat, and had a nasty boil on his neck.*
Harry Matthews 90 wins 7 losses is a good B-LEVEL resume until you see *he was a career middleweight moonlighting at light heavyweight.* Matthews weighed 130 lbs vs. Joey Parks who also weighed 130. *Shouldn't one have to beat credible Heavyweight opponents to be respected as a legitimate Heavyweight?*
Roland LaStarza *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza Refused fights with Charles, Moore, Walcott, Louis, Valdez, Satterfield, Bivins, Maxim, Henry, Baker, Johnson, Pompey, Marshall, Smith, Sheppard etc. In an article in RING magazine after his career LaStarza admitted as much!
Rex Layne *C-LEVEL.* LaStarza vs. Layne reminds me of watching two midwest club fighters fighting a 4 rounder on an old ESPN card from Muncie, In. Two guys who were not well schooled, standing in front of each other acting like they were insulted if the other guy missed them with a punch. A lot of right hand leads, a lot of jabs with the rear foot leaving the canvas, little/no counter punching, just two guys willing to get hit but showing little boxing skill. Look how bad Rex Layne swings and misses. What an oaf.
Joe Walcott *C-LEVEL.* Low-power Walcott's high profile losses are what elevated his status and built up his credentials, not his wins. The fact that Walcott was granted (6) title attempts in a (5½) year span speaks volumes about how weak the Heavyweight division must have been at this time. But the most astonishing fact is (5) of these title opportunities came immediately after a Walcott loss!! That's because Walcott was one of the IBC's original fighters. He signed on when Louis retired. Fear and violence were the linchpins of Carbo’s system and the bedrock of his power. Directly or indirectly, he controlled scores of judges, officials, managers, promoters, and fighters. His power became such that no big match was made or title awarded without his acquiescence. Charles, Walcott, Marciano had mobbed managers, Charles a pair named Tom Tennas and Jacob Mintz, Walcott one Nick Bocchicchio and Marciano one Frankie Carbo.
Archie Moore *A-LEVEL* MW/LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. Heck, Low Power 171/173 lb Charles beat him 3 times, 182 lb Patterson obliterated him, and 188 lb tiny cruiser Marciano smashed him. Every time Moore Stepped-Up in competition he got KO'D.
Ezzard Charles *A-LEVEL* LH and *C-LEVEL* HW. William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
There it is. Y'all are intelligent enough to make your own judgement about Rocky's *F-LEVEL* resume. Who did he fight? Walcott was 38/39 if not older, Moore 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed.
Even Hall of Famer Emanuel Steward a proven boxing genius who trained 41 world champion fighters throughout his career said, *"Marciano was too small. He really wasn't a Heavyweight. 5' 10", exceptionally short arms, very clumsy, cut easy, had troubled balance. 188 lbs was just too small."* @ Emanuel Steward: Ali all time greatest, Klitschko number eight
*"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
Most people openly admit that the versions of Charles, Moore, and Walcott that he fought were far from prime (The Louis fight really doesn't deserve to be brought up). So it isn't the quality of Rocky's competition that his reputation is based on among the greats, it is that famous record 49-0. If Rocky's 49-0 record is the basis of his greatness then the fighters on that record should be the very best that were available. But by my reckoning that is the furthest thing from the truth. Infact when you look at the highest ranked fighters of the era, and then you look at his record, it's scandalous how many he didn't fight. Many of the ones he DID choose to fight are just as scandalous.
Top fighters Marciano definitely should have fought that he didn't.
*1)* Harold Johnson
*2)* Oakland Billy Smith
*3)* Yolande Pompey
*4)* Curtis Hatchetman Sheppherd
*5)* Clarence Henry
*6)* Joey Maxim
*7)* Marty Marshall
*8)* Bob Satterfield
*9)* Jimmy Bivins
*10)* Lloyd Marshall
*11)* Nino Valdes
*12)* Willie Pastrano
*13)* Cleveland Williams had 35 wins 2 losses when Rocky retired in April 1956. Rocky had plenty of opportunities to fight Cleveland in 1952 or 1953.
Those are just the definites, we could add many other names (like Tommy Jackson, Dan Bucceroni or even Bob Baker) that while not as good, are definitely better than some of the guys he DID fight that make up that "legendary" record. Guys like these;
Lee Epperson (Career Record 0-1)
Jimmy Weeks (Career Record 0-1)
Gilbert Cardone (Career Record 0-3)
John Edwards (Career Record 1-2)
Bill Hardeman (Career Record 1-7)
Humphrey Jackson (Career Record 4-3)
Johnnie Pretzie (Career Record 10-14)
Bob Jefferson (Career Record 3-10)
Gilley Ferron (Career Record 4-13)
Tommy DiGiorgio (Career Record 9-15)
Artie Donato (Career Record 7-13)
Harry Haft (Career Record 12-7)
James Connoly (Career Record 12-9)
Harry Bilazarian (Career Record 15-12)
Joe Dominic (Career Record 18-12)
Don Mogard (Career Record 20-16)
Jimmy Walls (Career Record 21-41)
Eldridge Eatman (Career Record 22-21). Eldridge had just lost 7 of his last 8 fights. Why would a 26-0 boxer fight an *F-LEVEL* diver who had just lost 7 fights?
Marciano's 32nd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Keene Simmons who had a career 9 wins 22 losses.
Marciano's 33rd fight was against *F-LEVEL* Harold Mitchell who had a career 7 wins 16 losses. *(Harold had just lost 10 fights in a row before diving against Rocky)*
Marciano's 34th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Art Henri who had a career 18 wins 29 losses.
Marciano's 35th fight was against *F-LEVEL* Willis Applegate who had a career 12 wins 16 losses.
None of these guys beat anyone of note! Many of these guys he even fought pretty far into his career when there were obviously alternatives. In light of this should this 49-0 record be as revered as it is to some?
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez so very sad how Joe Louis was treated by the government.
Miller weighs - 305
Zhang - 285
Bakole - 285
Teremoana - 285
Ruiz - 275
Fury - 275
Briggs - 265
Grant - 265
Jalolov - 255
Foreman - 220/250
Itamua - 250
Parker - 250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Lennox - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Dubois - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Usyk - 225
Thomas - 225
Lyle - 220
Holmes - 218
Holyfield - 218
Tyson - 218
Wilder - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
Frazier - 206
Dempsey - 187
*Moore - 175 lb LH champ from 1952 to 1962.*
*Charles - 181 lb HW champ with lowest ever 42% KO's.*
*Marciano - 184 lb HW champ with 67" flyweight reach.*
*Marciano's era was undoubtedly the smallest and weakest Heavyweight division in boxing history and that's not even remotely debatable.*
*If size doesn't matter why hasn't there been another 184 lb Heavyweight champion since little Marciano's little era 4 generations ago?*
*"Name one, just one 'Prime' all time great boxer Rocky beat? Failing to name even one proves my comment rings true. Show me any respected boxing publication or analyst that claims Walcott Charles Moore Louis was 'Prime' when they fought him?"*
*Walcott was 38/39, Moore was 41, Charles had ALS and Louis was washed. Rocky's opponents Combined Lost an Astonishing "753" Times and 94% of his opponents were D to F-LEVEL cans. Louis Walcott Charles Moore already had "409" fights before they faced Rocky. 49-0 or 149-0, what's the difference if the division was Horseshirt*
George Foreman: The time when I was training with the great Archie Moore, and I ask him about his big fight with Rocky. He told me what beat him was Marciano power, he hit me on arms, my body, everywhere. My arms was so broken I couldn't use them to defend myself. That the power of Rocky Marciano.
Foreman is a good guy. Foreman would have demolished Marciano because Foreman was simply too big and powerful, but if you could somehow bring them back in equivalent sizes to fight each other, that could be one of the greatest fights of all-time.
@@richardmilliken8705 He might have. Of course, Foreman lost to Jimmy Young in 1977, who pulled the same crap on him that Ali did. But young was very awkward. He took Ali the distance in '76 and a lot of people thought young should have won that fight.
@@highnrising talk is cheep..
@@richardmilliken8705 I remember that. There was a pro wrestling vibe to the way Young would duck his body out of the ring when he needed a timeout. You don't want to DQ a fighter unless he's doing something illegal that causes harm his opponent--like biting or low blows. You DQ someone and it creates headaches for the promoter because ticket buyers will be demanding their money back. But I think the referee should have penalized Young a point and instructed the judges to deduct it from his score when he ducked under the rope. That would have given Ali a clearer victory but still allowed the fight to go the distance.
@@richardmilliken8705 Ali got seriously hurt by George Cooper who only weighed 185 pounds! Ali would of been beaten by people like Lennox Lewis and either of the Klitschko Brothers! Ali fought not the Greatest Opposition himself. Sonny Liston was Old! Ali after his 3 1/2 year layoff lost a lot of Hand Speed, Foot Speed and Stamina! Plus Ali got Hit in his Face in his Fights with Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers! Ali took most of his Punishment from Sparring! Ali also thought he could callous his Brain by letting Sparring Partners Punch him in the Face and Head! That is absolutely the Dumbest Idiotic Statement that I have heard from any Professional Boxer! No taking Punches to your Head, Skull and Face give you Serious Brain Damage- Plain and Simple! In his Prime Muhammad Ali was a Fast Handed, Fast Footed Boxer but it only lasted a Short Time! Ali was NEVER close to his Prime when he fought back in the Early 70’s! I was a big Ali Fan. I knew Ali would easily beat Jerry Quarry, then he Fought Oscar Bonavena and Stopped Oscar by Knocking him down 3 times in the 15th Round!
A hammer instead of a fist, a powerful neck, a fighter's rage. He beat his adversary to blood, then hugged him. A boxing style from the working class, all sweat, no paradise... Rocky Marciano, was the only athlete in the history of heavyweight boxing to retire undefeated.
Becuase he fought has beens look at fury way better but where all the black guys at in lower divisions even wilder who aint a boxer gave him his toughest fights
@@sluggak1363 what?
@@johnnysoso2 A little bit of a puzzle I guess. Think point being made is Rocky was fighting past their prime boxers like former champion Joe Louis and he is over hyped.. Fury...well he is just lucky that there is a current shortage of good black heavyweights, unlike in lower weight classes.
Got goosebumps by reading that!
and here we go the racist mfckrs are sad
As a guy who started boxing at 25, this man will remain the proof that no matter how late you start with hard work and insane dedication can still make it as one of all time best
Not everybody is Rocky Marciano tho. Or Larry Holmes. You only have these 2 as all time greats that started late.
@@MaccaveliPL Bernard Hopkins, Sergio Martinez
But I’m 93 🥹
Hard work and dedication certainly are requirements, but good and fitting genetics are too.
@@mirai5850 also Anthony Joshua and deontay Wilder, not all time greats but they both made it to the very top starting at age 18 for Joshua and 21 for Wilder.
Rocky’s stamina and strength was off the charts and it looked like he was putting everything he had into every punch. Although he didn’t have the reach he generated his power from crouching and leaning and putting all his momentum in his movements, generating power up from his legs, torso and through his arms. You can just see it. He was a savage.
You need to learn proper punctuation.
@@MediocreDeficit u need to get a life
@@MediocreDeficit you need a life if you had to edit that little message. 🤦🤣
@Student of Klaus Schwab Nobody mentioned Ali here, dude
@Student of Klaus Schwab You have a neck fetish or something bro?what is your beef with beefed-up trapz?
After all the grueling battles he fought in the ring, he kept his mind, too. He was remarkably articulate in post-retirement interviews.
Bro never lost had no head damage dawg
@@elihammond774 still got hit in the head by heavyweights. Nobody participates in martial arts without taking damage to the brain. He was just built different. Such an unfortunate end to his life. Him and Gerald McClellan are my favorite boxers and both suffered horrible ends
@@elihammond774 is his record still undefeated out did someone actually beat his record?
Tyson fury is the only other heavyweight to go undefeated. Rocky remains the only one to be undefeated and win every fight too.
Did he die in a crash before he retired?
Marciano was on a “no-lose” mission to achieving greatness and he did so by simply out-working and out-conditioning all fighting foes. His work ethic was nothing short of remarkably consistent and disciplined: hours of running, gym work, sparring, push-ups and sit-ups, countless medicine-ball thumps to the gut. Marciano was committed to his training regimen.
Rocky is also remembered and honored for his class as an individual, not only his 49-0. He never boasted or ridiculed his opponents. Regardless what others may think, Rocky Marciano was a great champion.
Becuase he knew they were passed thier prime old man
@@sluggak1363 their
@@sluggak1363 Because
@@sluggak1363 men 🙄
@@sluggak1363 You never won a spelling bee, did you?
I remember asking my Dad, who had boxed as an amature, who was the Greatest Fighter. He said Rocky Marciano. He told me what this commentator said. His power and his getting inside would do you in. This was when these fighters went 15 rounds not 12.
Dad also said he was a good guy that cared about other fighters.
In the ring he was relentless. Outside, a gentleman.
They don't make them like this anymore.
Boxers are like that. Beat the crap outta each other in the ring - then maintain a lifelong friendship in the real world. Look at Dempsey and Tunney. Max Schmeling inflicted Joe Louis' first defeat on him, a humiliating 12-round KO. Louis took revenge with a devastating 1st round KO. Max supported Joe when the US tax collectors sent him broke. I still communicate with guys I fought in the ring. It's a brotherhood.
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Rocky was an icon of masculinity and is Italians still love him. He is our hero
@@anon2427 So LaStarza didn't live up to those ideals? lol.
@@CliSwe ??
I think this is the best analysis of The Rock that I've come across: he was a much-disadvantaged heavyweight who made the most of his talents and shortcoming, an incredible fighter. As you've shown, he was technically highly intelligent and adept. Thank you.
Rocky was a really nice guy, my dad showed me pictures of him hanging out at his house when he was a kid because my great-uncle Morris was good friends with him. Marciano used to train in the Catskills, where my dad grew up, and my uncle apparently befriended one of the guards and then talked his way into being friends with Rocky himself. That must've been surreal for my dad, being a little kid and having the world heavyweight champion chilling in a hammock in your yard.
Really enjoyed video.
Bullshit
*EZZARD CHARLES WAS 100% FACTUALLY HANDICAPPED WITH LOU GEHRIG'S DISEASE WHEN HE FOUGHT ROCKY MARCIANO!!!*
William Dettloff’s biography *'Ezzard Charles: A Boxing Life'* documents that Charles first felt weakness in his limbs, and some numbness, as early as 1951. This was 3 years before the Marciano fights, and it was also the same year he lost his title. Ezzard, his family, Ezzard's trainer's Ray Arcel, Jimmy Brown, Chickie Ferrera and Bill Gore all said they noticed signs of ALS in 1951. Bert Sugar said, *"His trainer, Ray Arcel said, that even now, at this stage in 51, and then on into the middle 50's, you could see the beginning, the traces of the disease, that would later claim his life, Lou Gehrig's disease in Charles."* --@ 35:01 ESPN Ringside - Rocky Marciano
Charles already had symptoms long before he fought Rocky in 54. How can anyone say he didn't if u've never read Ezzard's biography? If a Rocky fan were to read a Rocky biography he'd hang on to every single word as if it were the gospel truth.
*(Too many reputable witnesses!!)*
*(Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking lived with ALS for 55 years!!)*
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchezhow did a man with ALS during that time beat Bob Satterfield and last the distance with Jersey Joe Walcott one last time? He's fo sho past his best but still game,talk about Larry Holmes for example.
@@HaraDuran That account is run by an individual with multiple accounts who teams up with a small group of others to trash Marciano's legacy in response to every Rocky video that gets posted.
Rocky was always so nice and humble. He never trash talked his opponents and always praised their fighting abilities before he broke them , he let his fist do the talking.
An excellent analysis of Rocky's style of boxing. I always had much appreciation of Mr. Marciano. He was a kind, decent man and a fearless warrior. It pains me to see current commentators put him down. You did an admirable job with the video. Thank you.
Wrong; he was a strong arm robber, that went to prison in the Army; he was a dirty fighter, losing rounds or being warned for low blows in almost every fight. Most of his fights were against club fighters. When he started fighting non club fighters, they wer either light hitting, or past their prime. HE WAS A PROMOTIONAL HYPE!
@@researcher3981 you are trapped by ur ignorance and you take part of a story and make it apply as truth? You are an ignorant fool who knows Nothing about Marciano ! Another jealous hater. He beat up a guy in Britain who invited he and his buddy back to their apt and made homorsexual advances thats why he robbed the punks ! Second his fights weren't club fighters -Jersey Joe Wolcott ? Ezzard Charles was NOT. Club fighter nor past his prime-the same crap was said back then-he was denounced the same way with the same old tired baloney-He wasn't dirty he was a swarmer who never stopped punching so yes he would rabbit punch at times ! He was well schooled and even Ali said he wasn't easy to hit as he looked ! Clearly he was one enigma and a unique amazingly great fighter and great man. People like you are ingrates ignorant !
@William Kimg
Quite a pile of garbage you managed to pile up here.
@@researcher3981 Your name sounds like a slave name.
@@researcher3981 Stop being a Jealous Racist Punk!!! You’re not Fooling Anybody Boy!!!
One of things you will notice about how devastating his power is, is when he faces fighters for a second time they are genuinely scared of getting hit again and shadows of there former selves 15 rounds with Marciano was the end of a lot boxers careers.
I would pay NOT to have a rematch with this guy.
Dude you can't help but flinch when he throws his punches. He was swinging with bad intentions😬 you can tell those hurt
Current world rankings
The Ring & BoxRec
As of February 13, 2022
[C Current The Ring world champion]
Rank Name Record (W-L-D) Title(s)
C United Kingdom Tyson Fury 6' 9" 277 lbs 85" reach KOs 69% 31-0-1 (22 KO) WBC
1 Ukraine Oleksandr Usyk 6' 3.2" 222 lbs 78.2" reach KOs 68% 19-0 (13 KO) IBF,WBA,WBO
2 United Kingdom Anthony Joshua 6' 6" 250 lbs 82" reach KOs 85% 24-2 (22 KO)
3 United States Deontay Wilder 6' 7" 238 lbs 83" reach KOs 91% 42-2-1 (41 KO)
4 United Kingdom Dillian Whyte 6' 4" 260 lbs 78" reach KOs 63% 28-2 (19 KO)
5 New Zealand Joseph Parker 6' 4" 260 lbs 76" reach KOs 66% 30-2 (21 KO)
6 United States/Mexico Andy Ruiz Jr. 6' 2" 270 lbs 74" reach KOs 61% 34-2 (22 KO)
7 Cuba Luis Ortiz 6' 4" 240 lbs 78" reach KOs 76% 33-2-0-2 (28 KO)
8 United Kingdom Joe Joyce 6' 6" 265 lbs 80" reach KOs 92% 13-0 (12 KO)
9 Croatia Filip Hrgovic 6' 6" 245 lbs 82" reach KOs 86% 14-0 (12 KO)
10 Cuba Frank Sanchez 6' 4" 240 lbs 78" reach KOs 62% 20-0-0-1 (13 KO)
55 inches divided by 11 fighters = 5 inches or 6 feet 5 inch average.
2,767 pounds divided by 11 fighters = 252 pounds.
872 inches divided by 11 fighters = 79 inch reach.
Today's Super Heavyweight boxers average size = 6' 5" 252 lbs 79" reach.
Marciano was only 5' 10" 185 lbs with the shortest ever 67" reach. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and increase his weight up to 205 pounds. Still wouldn't help. Just can't see it. Ain't no way Rocky's taking out these modern 6' 5" 250 lb Super Heavyweights with excellent records.
Even with the help of modern nutrition training and roids still wouldn't help little Rocky's penguin T-rex alligator arms grow longer! And he'd still need the use of a stepladder inorder to reach King Fury.
Besides, if ya put an additional 20+ pounds on Marciano he woulda moved slower than molasses. Rocky wasn't born with fast twitch muscle fibers like Mike Tyson. Mike was genetically gifted with fast fibers and came out the gate sprinting like a 220 pound Quarter Horse. While 185 pound Marciano always came out the gate shuffling forward like a turtle.
Prime Tyson KO's prime Marciano 10 out of 10 times.
Marciano's 185 lb punching power doesn't come close to a 245 to 275 lb Ibeabuchi, Lewis, Vitali, Foreman or Fury type of Heavier Weighted Power which effortlessly produces more torque and leverage. If u had to break up large boulder would u use 8oz ball peen hammer or 8 lb sledgehammer?
Size matters otherwise boxing wouldn't have 18 different weight classes. Featherweights would be fightin middleweights and cruisers would be fightin Super Heavies. There are no height divisions, age divisions or reach division, because weight at heavyweight boxing is one of the most important factor.
Super Heavyweights are increasing because Eastern European fighters are now allowed to fight in USA since around 2000 (Hall of Fame Klitschko brothers dominated Heavyweight boxing for TWENTY years) and international travel is much easier compared to 30 40 50 years ago.
Even a new Bridgerweight division between 200 and 224 lbs was recently added because too many 215 lb heavyweights complained.
We'll never-ever see small cruiserweights 182 lb Patterson, 183 lb Charles or 184 lb Marciano as heavyweight champions again.
Boxing has evolved , proven quality SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT SIZE MATTERS like it or not.
Southpaw 200 lb Cruiserweight Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over Usyk 222 lbs 6'3.2" with 78.2" reach. Holyfield 218 lbs 6'2.5" with 78" reach. Michael Spinks 208 lbs 6' 2.5" with 76" reach. Ali 215 lbs 6'2.5" (passport) with 78" reach. And of course we mustn't forget little 185 lb 5'10" Rocky with his famously shortest "ever" 67" bantamweight T-rex alligator reach.
Shocking isn't it Marciano Lovers. Those other small guys weren't so small after all. They already had the height and reach. So they were able to assimilate into the heavyweight division with few problems. On the other hand Rocky had some serious dwarfism problems going on with his arms. Simply put Rocky would be too small for today's average size Super Heavyweight which is 6' 5" 250 lbs 79" reach.
Rocky ran at least 5 miles a day, 365, with several pounds of sand built into each leather combat boot designed by a local shoe mogul. When a fight was signed he'd run 8 to 10 miles, and usually the last week up it to 12 miles. He said, "if you train like i do, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." Rocky would also include running uphill forward, downhill backwards, repeat. I remember reading that quote several decades ago. Then out of nowhere i recently stumbled across an isolated vid and Rocky said, "this is where the road work pays off. If your up at the bust of dawn everyday while your training, running up and down hill, your legs will carry you 40 rounds." On top of that Rocky liked to walk another 5 to 10 miles in the late afternoon or evening. And he did all this in the hilly country around Grossinger's, where he trained. It was Rocky's obsession with conditioning that kept him training 365 days a year and this dedication gave him stamina never seen before in a fighter. It allowed him to set a blistering pace that no opponent could match.
that vid is called -- Main Event: Marciano vs Charles
from Majik Man
guest is Tony Franciosa, vid is 25:35 in length
with Rocky's priceless commentary covering rounds 1, 4, 6, 10, 15
@@seniordavidmanderson9232 you inspired me, wow
@@mirsadajdari Fact is David Anderson is also black David Frost.
@@Boxrec297 YOU ARE BLACK DAVID FROST
Both Rocky Marciano and Marvin Hagler are from Brockton. Hagler heard a lot about Marciano's work-ethic and determination from Goody Petronelli. Who is Goody Petronelli? He was born in Brockton, Massachusetts and grew up as a close friend of Rocky Marciano. Both their fathers had emigrated from the Abruzzo region of Italy. Petronelli was also a friend of Marciano's trainer, Allie Colombo.
The Petronelli brothers opened their Brockton gym in 1969, the same year both Marciano and Colombo died (in a plane crash and an auto accident respectively.) Guerino "Goody" Petronelli with his brother Pasquale, managed and trained world middleweight champion Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Marvin knew so much about Rocky. Notice the similarities. Their daily year-round workouts and the solitaire confinement with little interaction. What I'm trying to say is Hagler adopted a lot of Marciano's monk like training methods and it paid off tremendously.
"So many of the greats were just wild, wild people...but then there were some greats that were just real disciplined. MARVIN HAGLER is my best example for that. When I was a kid growing up in Boston, Hagler was the middleweight champion of the world, and they used to show him on the news, he'd be running on the sand dunes of Cape Cod in the winter, in the freezing cold with a hoodie on, screaming "War! WAR!" It was amazing. Marvin Hagler made you just want to get out of your house and go running in the snow. That's what I always got out of him, not that he was so wild; he was so mentally strong, he had an iron chin, and his discipline was impeccable." -- Joe Rogan on boxer Marvin Hagler
The way Rocky throws punches from every conceivable point on the compass is not only fun to watch but inspiring and motivates me to exercise. He was a perpetual motion punching machine that ground his opponents down like a hydraulic drill attacking a boulder.
How the hell do you 'exercize' at 74?
He motivates me too👍
@@Boxrec297 How many accounts do you need black David? You're black David Frost the most prolific Rocky Marciano hater on RUclips
@black David Frost You got NOTHING removed boy. I have all of my accounts. Diputs reggin!!
The thing about Rocky is that the guy was not "supposed" to be a heavyweight. Even by the standards of the time he was undersized to the point that the light heavyweight champ Archie Moore outweighed him.
What this meant was that Rocky **had** to have a unique style if he was going to compete. You can't expect to use the same techniques as fighters of more classic builds and sizes to beat them if you don't have that size.
Rocky's late career start also meant that he was forced to learn only those skills that were suited to him. He didn't have the time to spend learning classic style techniques that he was ill-equipped to make use of. It's an example of necessity being the mother of invention. The result was a style that was uniquely suited to take full advantage of Rocky's best skills and hide his weaknesses.
Or good steroids
@@theoriginal.Bobbyd Tyson or Evander or Lennox or Tua would of kill Marciano in the first round,,remember,, Black's were no really allowed in boxing,,plus the once that did were allowed were just puppets for rocky,, they didn't really had a good trainer,, or good technique,,
@@sukokino2409 i cannot and will not deny that black ppl faced terrible discrimination in the sport of boxing, especially in the US... Which is why the first black hw world champion, Jack Johnson, had to win the championship in Australia. He wasn't allowed to fight for a world title in the USA. I'm very well aware that, while black boxers were allowed to fight in the USA for a very long time, they were often denied title shots. Or, they fought for "colored' championships.
But, the simple fact is, Marciano fought all the top HWs of his era, regardless of race. To call fighters like Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcltt, and Archie Moore "puppets" and to pretend they weren't legit top-ranked fighters on their day, is extremely disrespectful towards those fighters. And it makes me wonder if your professed concern for racial equality in boxing is at all sincere, being that you're so willing to disrespectful discuss the best black fighters of the 1950s
@@sukokino2409 seeing the tenor of all your post the only conclusion that can be made is you are as racist as any KKK member.
Rocky was the best because he had the hardest punch, the best chin and the best endurance. Your right about his style but it is those three attributes that made him unbeatable.
Yes! I am so happy you decided to make this video. NO ONE does any analysis on his skills they just talk about how he hits hard. Glad to see him getting the credit he is due!!!
OYes The Modern Martial Artist does a fine analysis on little Rocky. It's just a shame Marciano only fought little cruiserweights and light heavyweights. He was never tested against any quality proven 200+ pound Heavyweights. Marciano wouldn't even be relevant against today's Super Heavyweights. He would be great at light heavyweight though.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici same with mayweather. Mayweather wouldn’t be even close to relevant against todays super heavyweights
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici He beat every top notch heavy weight of his day. And every one of them were bigger than him, Don't attempt to diminish Marciano's boxing record! Who is the only undefeated HW? MARCIANO!
The force of his hits is pretty distracting. You forget about his tactics in the seconds after his opponent gets leveled. The power behind his punches makes you look away from how he landed the hit.
Archie Moore was born December 13, 1913. Light heavy champ Moore moved up in weight to fight Marciano at the age of 41. Imagine if Marciano was 41 and moved up in weight to fight 32 year old Moore. The fallacy about Moore & Walcott peaking at 40+ years old is a misleading unsound argument and scientifically impossible.
His technique was unbelievable and difficult to master, but the most impressive thing about Marciano was his relentless attack. He just kept coming at you during the whole fight with no let up or attempt to rest like fighters do today by getting their opponents in a clinch. I've never seen a fighter that could equal Rocky's stamina.
It's easy for a-blown-up light heavyweight to have that kind of stamina. Marvin Hagler had same kinda stamina. 250lb Super Heavyweights need to pace themselves. But those Super Heavyweights similar Ibeabuchi and King Fury would have smashed little Rocky & Hagler in only one round!
@@Jabbing_Jack You are a clearly a Marciano hater, as I came across your equally negative comment on another Rocky channel. Let me guess...I suppose Tyson Fury is the greatest heavyweight who has ever lived too...right? Because he's big?
hes trying to be respectful he would have sliced that salami up for lunch
@@blackdavidfrost-n-margot727 white fan boys? lol you are what you are, only less
He did 15 miles a day of roadwork in combat boots.
A relentless style impervious to pain. Rocky had an indomitable heart that enabled him to withstand savage beatings. And he had a punch that was like a near-death experience. He trudged into the ring like a factory worker punching a time clock and started pounding on the wall in front of him until it crumbled.
Are you asleep? Marciano never took a "savage beating". Wake up and smell the coffee. Stop making stuff up in your search for adoration. Truth is you are black David Frost the most prolific Rocky hater on youtube.
*“Cassius Clay is the best Heavyweight champion of them all. He could beat Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott.”*
*“Clay gets better each time you see him. This kid has speed in his hands and feet like a welterweight. He hits like a heavyweight. He puts his punches together better than any heavyweight champion I’ve ever seen."*
Walcott was asked if he realized what he was saying. He nodded and repeated:
*“Clay could beat Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and a fellow named Jersey Joe Walcott. Clay is too big and punches too fast and moves too quickly for all of us old timers.”*
Asked to explain in more detail why he rates Clay a sure winner over Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and himself, Jersey Joe lit up a cigarette and said:
*“Dempsey and Louis and the rest of us would be too small to beat this big, rangy kid. Clay would just have to stay away from us for a few rounds and then start throwing his combinations."*
*“Cassius’ edge in height and reach, his fast hands and legs and the power he puts into his punches, whether from in close or at long range, would be too much for any of the champs I’ve mentioned."*
*“All of us old-timers needed room to punch. But not Clay. He can hit you from any position and hurt you. He can do this even when he is off balance."*
*“He could do the same thing to Dempsey, Louis, Charles, Marciano and me. He might not knock us out but he would beat all of us."*
*“When one punch can take a big man like Liston off his feet, people should realize the agility, coordination and power Clay can put into each and every punch."*
*"I didn’t fight Dempsey. But I did fight Louis, Charles and Marciano. I know none of these men, or me, could box with Clay. And I know none of us could punch as fast as Cassius. Some of us might hit as hard but Clay would out punch us in every exchange. Now, when Dempsey was fighting, he stood right over a man he had floored and hit him as he was getting up."*
*(( @ RING, Sept. 1965 Walcott insist Ali would beat Dempsey, Louis, Rocky, etc. by Ed Brennan ))*
Jersey Joe has been around boxing for a long time and should know what he is talking about...Should I believe you, a clueless casual, or Jersey Joe ?
Miller weighs - 305
Zhang - 285
Bakole - 285
Teremoana - 285
Ruiz - 275
Briggs - 265
Grant - 265
Fury - 262
Jalolov - 253
Parker - 250
Foreman - 220/250
Vitali - 250
Peter - 250
Joshua - 250
Whyte - 250
Ibeabuchi - 245
Lennox - 245
Kabayel - 245
Wladimir - 245
Dubois - 245
Sanchez - 245
Ruddock - 245
Hrgovic - 245
Itauma - 240
Wardley - 240
Bowe - 240
Ortiz - 240
Witherspoon - 235
Tua - 235
Dokes - 235
Bruno - 230
Morrison - 230
Cooney - 230
Thomas - 225
Usyk - 223
Lyle - 220
Holmes - 218
Holyfield - 218
Tyson - 218
Wilder - 218
Ali - 218
Liston - 218
Frazier - 206
Dempsey - 187
*Moore - 175 lb Light heavyweight champion from 1952 to 1962.*
*Charles - 181 lb Heavyweight champion with lowest ever 42% KO's.*
*Marciano - 184 lb Heavyweight champion with 67" flyweight reach.*
Carmine Vingo's *F-LEVEL* opponents:
*1.* Barney Metten career record 6 wins 3 losses *F-LEVEL*
*2.* Fred Ramsey career record 8 wins 12 losses *F-LEVEL*
*3.* Earl Turner career record 2 wins 21 losses *F-LEVEL*
*4.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL*
*5.* Joe Lindsay career record 28 wins 7 losses *C-LEVEL and Vingo LOSES!!!*
*6.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*7.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*8.* Jimmy Walls career record 20 wins 41 losses *F-LEVEL*
*9.* Tommy DiGiorgio career record 9 wins 15 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*10.* Johnny Williams career record 2 wins 13 losses *F-LEVEL*
*11.* Don Mogard career record 20 wins 16 losses *F-LEVEL*
*12.* Freddie McManus career record 18 wins 19 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*13.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*14.* Ernie Conyer career record 5 wins 9 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(SECOND time Vingo fights this diver)*
*15.* Joe Modzele career record 18 wins 8 losses *D to F-LEVEL*
*16.* George Washington career record 12 wins 33 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(Second time Vingo fights this diver. Vingo fought ((4)) opponents TWICE within 16 bouts)*
*17.* Al Robinson career record 0 wins 5 losses *F-LEVEL*
*(Vingo actually fights this 0-0-0 debuting amateur just before facing Rocky!!!)*
*18.* Rocky Marciano career record 49 wins 0 losses. Rocky said, *"It so happened that Vingo hit his head on the flooring, and it sent him unconscious. He was paralyzed a little bit in his fingers and hands. There was a change in the ruling, from then on padding was put on the ring of the flooring."* - Rocky @ The Marciano Tapes #6
Rocky's manager Al Weill said the same thing in Marciano's biography 'Unbeaten', *"Vingo hit his head on the flooring, then he went unconscious."*
So after all this time it was the plywood flooring that partially paralyzed Vingo's hand. I was always mislead into believing that Vingo was this twenty year old 6' 4' 220 lb Superstar being prepped to become the next Heavyweight Champion of the World but in reality he was a 6' 0 188 lb *F-LEVEL-BUM* that was set-up for slaughter!!!
*Both LaStarza and Marciano's resumes are practically identical to Vingo's!!! Marciano's division was filled with Diver's, Bum's, Washed Has-Beens and more Diver's. Don't believe? Then do the research on Rocky's opponents one at a time. It's easy to do. Start at the bottom (BoxRec) with Rocky's first opponent Lee Epperson and slowly work towards the top. Just push on Lee Epperson' name and it'll automatically take you to Lee Epperson' entire career. See what's happening folks is the Marciano family is controlling everything said about Rocky at both Wikipedia and BoxRec. But all that's about to change! It's all gonna go back to it's original format from 10 to 15 years ago because I SAVED EVERYTHING!!!*
@@Alien_Observer_LV-426You made a couple of excellent posts!👍
I think the Marciano Charles fights could make great breakdowns. Two of the most brutal clean fights in boxing history. Neither one was ever really the same after, tragically. Cheers for another great breakdown
Ohh is it ???? So it wasn't a fight , it was a war , u mean 2 say ?
Very true. Rocky vs Moore is my favorite fight of all time too, also really want to get to that one in the future.
true that fight was so brutal
Jersey Joe was a better tactician to me though.
@@TheModernMartialArtist Hey mate would love to see a Carlos Monzón breakdown considering that you pointed so many things about Marciano i never noticed. Itd be interesting to see you disect the style of Monzón and show things he did that nobody picks up on.
A really genuine guy and a hero to many. RIP Rocky you are still loved and remembered
Mike Tyson was gifted with type II fast-twitch muscle fibers. He came out the gate sprinting like 220 pound Quarter 🐎 Horse, while 185 pound little white Rocky came out the gate shuffling forward like Little 🐢Turtle. 1980's 20yr old phenom Mike easily KO's Rocky 10 outta 10 times!
@@blackDavid-n-mexicaliMargot Didn’t Mike get KO’d by Buster Douglas? Lol 😂
@@blackDavid-n-mexicaliMargot mike Tyson fought on cocaine plenty of times. Rocky Marciano was pure heart
@@blackDavid-n-mexicaliMargot tyson nothing
just a boxer champ but nothing after
all the time defeat
People are delusional. The guy was at best a welterweight. 5-10 and 175 lbs. Would be destroyed today. Ever wonder why almost non black boxers of the day were Italian? They grew up in areas where boxers were trained. That’s the only reason. What happened since is that others have had the chance to train and now wow, no Italian boxers.
My dad used to watch him fight in Providence on Friday nights. He said one of his uppercuts lifted his opponent off his feet.
remember as a kid in the `50's listening to adults talk about WWII and gathering around for the Thursday Night Fights (brought to by Burma-Shave) and across the board thought Sugar Ray Robinson was pound for pound the best (at that time) also that Rock 'was a bleeder' but you could not stop him.
Your dad was watchig club fighters, that what Marciano was.
@@researcher3981 You wear you jealousy well.
What probably happened is Rocky hit his opponent with an uppercut which made him jump up in the air. It can happen.
That may have been the fighter he paralyzed.
It's been 70 years and Marciano's 49-0 with 43 knockouts is chiseled into 'Rock' for eternity regardless what folks write, say or think.
True
70 years. That sums it up. Holme's made in arun at that and he failed too. 70 years.
He beat a bunch of bums
I was a kid when he fought. Archie Moore was my favorite. I cried after he knocked Moore out. Moore was one of two to knock Marciano down. He caught him coming in. His fights with Ezzard Charles were monumental! Charles may not of weighed any more than Marciano. He split Marciano's nose which, to his credit didn't stop him. Both of them could have fought at light heavyweight. Charles actually fought as a middle weight at the first of his career. Tragically he died of Lou Greig's disease. There have been a lot of great heavy weights, none were greater then Rocky Marciano. Thanks for putting this on.
Rockys walk around weight was 200lbs and he was very carefull not let it go over that.He purposely drop his weight to 182lbs for fights to be shure he can press forward 15rds.
I agree
Nolan Bowen Jersey Joe Walcott knocked him down too
Walcott also knocked him down.
Archie was a bad man, spent years in black leagues busting men up, I know this wasn't 1800s but still black boxing was a thing, and Archie would fight multiple men at once back in the day. I respect that man so much it's unreal, I put him down in the jack Johnsons of the world of the time
Rocky's one of the greats mainly because he's one of the few fighters to make his disadvantages his advantages and he and his team developed an unorthodox and awkward but deadly style
• Jersey Joe Walcott: A Boxing Biography, April 4, 2012
Chapter 9 --- Louis - Walcott 1 page 71
"From the beginning and all through the buildup of the Walcott - Louis 1 fight, the press criticized Walcott. In no time at all, his age became a huge subject of debate. Just about every sportswriter claimed that Jersey Joe was at least 38 years old. Others said he was 40, or older. Sportswriters dubbed him "Pappy," "elderly," "ancient," and "aging" were commonly used to describe Walcott. Since he was born at home and not in a hospital, he could not prove his age with a birth certificate that was filed when he was born. A birth certificate was finally filed in 1936 when Walcott was in his mid 20s at the Camden Bureau of Vital Statistics."
Walcott simply made one up because it was a requirement for the different state boxing commissions. It's all there in Walcott's biography. How does BoxRec know Walcott's age? Was BoxRec at Walcott's home when he was born? Even Jersey Joe Walcott is an invented name. His real name is Arnold Raymond Cream.
So if Walcott was at least 38 when he fought Louis in 1947 that would make him at least 43 when he faced Marciano in 1952.
Which makes perfect sense when you study Walcott's facial features, and the way his legs started wearing out around the 10th round against Marciano. That's exactly why Walcott got stuck against the ropes during that unlucky 13th. As Rocky slowly shuffled towards Walcott why didn't he move to his left or right like he was previously doing? Because his senior citizen legs were washed, that's why. Hey, it happens to us all. Nobody escapes father time!
Archie Moore (born Archibald Lee Wright; December 13, 1913 or 1916- December 9, 1998) was an American professional boxer and the longest reigning World Light Heavyweight Champion of all time (December 1952 - May 1962). -- written by Wikipedia in the very first paragraph for the Entire World to See!
Archie Moore, byname of Archibald Lee Wright, (born Dec. 13, 1913, Benoit, Miss., U.S.-died Dec. 9, 1998, San Diego, Calif.), American boxer, world light-heavyweight champion from Dec. 17, 1952 until 1962. -- written by The Information Architects of Encyclopaedia Britannica for the Entire World to See!
Archie Moore's own Mother said he was born December 13, 1913.
For heaven's sake, December 13, 1913 was even written in his obituary.
After Archie was arrested for stealing, he was sentenced to a three-year term at a reform school in Booneville, Missouri. Even when he was a kid he always insisted that he was born in 1916 in Collinsville, Illinois. But his mother told reporters numerous times that he was actually born in 1913 in Benoit, Mississippi and that she was never in Collinsville.
Who to believe? Well all the historical literature believes his mother. And all the Marciano fan-atic's demanded that his birthdate be 1916 to protect their little demigod against senior citizen boxers. And of course BoxRec will believe their fans before the mother because the fans pay their bills.
So Moore was actually 41 when he fought Marciano in 1955.
I'm slowly unraveling decades of exaggerated hyperbolic bull••••. Even newer Rocky vids exaggerates his accomplishments tenfold just for views. I'm proving how old and bad Marciano's opponents actually were.
And I'm not talking about the usual 15 or 20 bad fighters every champion usually faces. I'm talking about 40 of Marciano's opponents were of dubious quality, or just plain undercard B-Level Journeymen bums, of which many were completely controlled by mafioso. It's no wonder he went 49-0, smh.
"Moore, who turned pro in 1936, debuted in the world rankings as a middleweight in the early 1940s. By 1945, Moore moved up to light heavyweight and although he was continually passed over for a title shot, he remained a fixture in the 175-pound rankings. Finally, in 1952, four days after his 39th birthday, Moore secured a shot against light heavyweight champion Joey Maxim. He won the title by decision and held onto it for nearly a decade. In 1955, Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano. Although he dropped Marciano early in the fight, Marciano rallied and stopped Moore in the ninth round. A year later, after Marciano retired, Moore met Floyd Patterson for the vacant heavyweight crown but was stopped in five." -- written by INTERNATIONAL BOXING HALL OF FAME
Archie Moore was 39 when he defeated Joey Maxim in 52. And Moore went on to fight Marciano in 55 which makes him 41 years old. The evidence is undeniable.
written by NEW WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA & The Historical Marker Database & African American Registry & BLACKPAST
"One of the great light heavyweights of all time, Archie Moore, a.k.a., the “Old Mongoose,” was born under the name of Archibald Wright on December 13, 1913 in Benoit, Mississippi. Archie turned professional in 1936, originally operating in the middleweight ranks, but ultimately moving up into the light heavyweight class by 1945.
On December 15, 1952 he became the Light Heavyweight Champion of the World at age 39, defeating Joe Maxim by a decision in fifteen rounds, thereby becoming the oldest light heavyweight champion in history.
In 1955, just four months shy of his 42nd birthday, Moore attempted to win the heavyweight title from Rocky Marciano. He decked Marciano in the second round, coming seconds from snatching the coveted title away, before the younger champion recovered and came back to knock him out in the ninth round.
Just weeks shy of his 49th birthday in November of 1962, Moore also fought a promising young heavyweight by the name of Cassius Clay."
All the historical sites has his birthdate listed December 13, 1913.
BoxRec doesn't though, why not? Boxing promoter J. Russell Peltz came across some glaring errors at BoxRec, "mostly in the historical records." ESPN's Dan Rafael noted that "so many people have a hand in BoxRec that the records aren't always accurate. Ricardo Mayorga's record has been wrong for years. There's mistakes on Derrick Gainer's record too."
BoxRec website is updated by volunteer editors from many countries around the world.
In 2005, BoxRec applied to become recognized as the official record keepers for the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC). The ABC held interviews with both Fight Fax and BoxRec at their 2005 convention. Each applicant made a submission and presentation to the ABC panel which included state commissioners and attorneys.
The panel then voted unanimously in favour to award Fight Fax the position. The ABC later revealed that they had undertaken tests to measure the accuracy of the records of the websites and the Fight Fax records were shown to be 100% accurate with BoxRec's being "substantially lower."
BoxRec has been criticized for not keeping correct records for boxers, especially historic fighters.
Nope,, he never fought Tyson,Lennox, Evander,Tua, Forman,they would of kill him in the first round,, just like basketball in the 40s 50s Black's weren't allowed in the sport,, same with boxing,, and the Black's that rocky fought were not trained properly at all,, Remember Mafia didn't started in the 90s,, now show me a great white champion in boxing,,none,,just like basketball,,the best are all black,, Jordan, koby,miller,magic,etc etc,
He was short, and his reach was limited ... it's literally UNBELIEVABLE how good he was with what he had
He had no business beating the guys he did
But he did
Larger than life
Incredible, truly
You know he is great when he has mutiple of the best knockouts ever and we only have a small selection of his fights as more than half of his fights were never filmed, the films been lost or never recorded after a live airing
It sucks to not have footage of all of his fights, but at the same time, it also makes him kind of legendary.
How does he have "multiple of the best knockouts ever" ?? I only know of ONE, against Walcott.
Absolutelyyyy Rocky had heart. Just as Joe Frazier was all heart. But look what Big George did to Frazier's heart, bounced it up and down off the canvas like a basket🏀ball. Little Hearts can only take you so far in the land of Bigger Hearts. Size Matters.
Gypsy King Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and bewilder him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and smash out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. He ain't getting the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins. Anyway he chooses.
Giant King Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm just so grateful i get to see it in my lifetime.
ALL HAIL GOAT KING FURY
Just remember he is being punched in 6oz gloves with some fighters above the weight of average heavyweights today and he went down twice in his entire career and then went on to knock out both of them in spectacular fashion. Imagine him now, how scary it would be to face him in 12oz gloves knowing nothing is going to knock him down and he will be hitting around 100 times a round every round.
For 18 brain damaging rounds too
diff times mate
Something not right here, why do you have 88% (Marciano's ko ratio) of all the top liked comments? loolz
@@danny24042002 what do you mean?
@@shotgunshawzy haha just that much of a Marciano fan
Despite Rocky's humble modest demeanor, he had intense pride, desire, courage and every other intangible a champion manifests. His physique was quite adequate for what he needed to do with it. If you look closely at him, he is built perfectly, the way a powerful man should be built.
Never thought I could learn so much about a fighter from a single video - and I've been a boxing fan for 60+ years. Great job, to say the least! Thanks!
Marciano once said, "There isn't a man alive that can do more damage to me, than I can do to them". 49-0. 43 knockouts.
Ali said he could turn off the light switch and be in bed before it got dark! So… both of them were lying!
@@KickingAssDaily He didn’t want to kill other minorities on behalf of racist white people! And he didn’t want to kill representing a country who didn’t even give him equal rights. Only idiots like you would believe that Ali wasn’t brave. He was far braver to face down the US government than if he volunteered to fight a stupid oppressive war.
@@studentofklausschwab4674 yikes..
@@studentofklausschwab4674 Ali was trash..such a hero he turned Muslim to avoid fighting for the military..Hendrix went to the military 🤣 Ali was so punch drunk they called it Parkinsons and I humbly thank Frazier,Foreman,Tunney and many others for that..he deserved the hell he lived with..F your feelings
@@KickingAssDaily #TrumpsterLogic 🤣
Sweet. I love how you break down the subtle and often overlooked details to figure out the formula of each fighter’s technique and how they made themselves so great.
Also Rocky having a custom 300 pound bag to practice on for power is insane. Marciano really was a beast
Rocky was an all-time great but if he had lasted a few more years Sonny Liston would have killed him.
@@LDTOK-zs8oz perhaps
@@LDTOK-zs8oz I doubt it. Sonny Liston would have put up a great fight though.
@@LDTOK-zs8oz ruclips.net/video/27DmRjUbqWA/видео.html
I read a book on his life what a beautiful gentle soul his was ,besides a brilliant boxer, no one had a bad word to say about, ti's, Gentlemen ,RIP Hero
Rocky Marciano was a light heavyweight fighting at heavyweight which makes him a special champion. He wasn't a 1 or 2 punch knockout fighter. He won with an accumulation of hard punches. He won by attrition.
@The Angry GrizzlyReread! Rocky's size and frame was small for heavyweight. His normal weight was 180 lbs which is very light for a heavyweight. He would bulk up to 187/188 lbs for most of his pro fights. That's why I said he was a special heavyweight. Research, Angry!
@The Angry Grizzly Nobody cares what his walking around weight was!!! Is that understood!!! And your research are not others research!!! Is that understood!!! Now quit waiting and watching everybody's comments just to attack them!!!
@@PROFESSOR-I.C. WELL SAID FRIEND... Angry has been bullying folks for over a decade. He lives to Hate
I believe that the GOAT Single Knock Out Punch was delivered by Rocky Marciano against Joe Walcott in their 1st fight in the 13th round, when Walcott was clearly dominating Marciano before he was KO into another dimension before he was revived by smelling salts. Rocky had no problem knocking out his opponents with 1 punch. I think you're confusing him with Ali who needed a flurry of combination punches to KO his opponents. Ali's 2nd fight against Liston doesn't count as Liston clearly took a dive and his acting performance was about as convincing as Amber Heards crying with no tears.
@@richardmilliken8705 Everyone dodged Jersey Joe until he was old.....yup, the great Joe Louis did.
Your videos are simply the best and you never miss a beat my friend. So spot on with what made this man great. I will always look at him as like you said, the perfect template for shorter stockier heavyweights. In my whole amateur boxing run and now my amateur MMA run, I have always been an undersized heavyweight. Funny enough, I'm 5'11 with a 67" reach. I'm Italian too and really encorporate his methods and style in my fights in any combat sport. I may not have all the talent in the world, but by god my conditioning and willingness to win will get me there.
Remember... this guy was essentially a cruiser weight, but had power that would decimate heavyweights, unreal... when Ali says "I don't know who would've won.." he's not only being respectful, he's telling the truth as he knows it...
He was just being modest, Ali in his prime outboxes Marciano every round en route to a 15-0 win.
What heavyweights did he decimate?? ZERO!!!
@@bigboris5774 sure cause he did that to Frazier right…
@@bigboris5774 did you just say that Ali was being modest? When the fuck has Ali ever been modest? We must be talking about two different people lol
Ali was promoting The Super Fight, the movie he and Marciano appeared in about their hypothetical, computer-determined fight. He got a percentage of the profits, so he wasn’t going to spoil it for the audience. Also, he didn’t know who would have won because the fight never happened, and never could have.
As strong as his ego, and as competitive as he was, Ali actually liked Marciano, and wasn’t going to trash the man who died three weeks after filming ended. Ali clearly BELIEVED he would have won; he was not shy about proclaiming himself the GOAT.
Thank you sir so very much for this excellent and comprehensive review of Marciano's fighting style. Your's is the best analysis of Rocky I've ever seen. There is so much nonsense on RUclips it's refreshing to hear a true knowledgeable expert. In my teen years I was an amateur boxer (never pro) and a life long boxing fan. Again your review of Marciano is spot on. The big topic concerning Rocky is the decades old question "could Marciano have beaten Ali". Your excellent report on Marciano causes me to lean 51 / 49 Ali. I have no where close to your analytical skills but I figured out years ago how to analyze great fighters and it couldn't be easier let their opponents do it for you. If I wanted to know about Ali I simply listened to what his opponents said about him. Now your report on Marciano is so cool because it shames all the lazy sports media. In other words everyone knew what a devastating power puncher Rocky was. But as you point out there so much more to him than that. As you show us in your report it was boxing SKILLS that put him over the top not only his power. The same with Ali all the simple minded knew how big (a shade over 6 foot 3) and lightening fast he was but he had even more . What I'm about to say is why I would give Ali a slight edge over Marciano. To learn this I've listened extensively to what his opponents said about him. 100 percent of Ali's opponents said "he hit from angles I did not know existed." Next they would say " I got hit tonight with a lot of punches I never saw coming. If I may be so bold to suggest that is what made Ali such a devastating opponent. If you were to give me a letter grade I may have been a B+ amateur boxer (at best) but I know enough to know when you're getting hit with PUNCHES YOU DON'T SEE COMING you become tentative and cautious. You attack less you cover more and this also messes with your head. How am I getting hit with so many punches I don't see coming is not a very comforting thing to ask yourself during a fight. As you point out rope a dope would not have been an option for Ali Marciano hit too damn hard Ali's arms would have been limp noodles by the 10'th round. I believe Ali could have avoided Rocky and got enough of his shots in to win a close unanimous decision. But be beware Ali one careless mistake could land you on the canvas dreaming of enchanted forests with pretty girls running around. I will certainly look forward to more of your reports.
Great analysis of arguably the greatest all around boxer ever. Smart, physical, and as tough as they come. It's no wonder he never lost.
Rocky's superb conditioning enabled him to punch all out throughout the fight. You just do not see that in many other fighters.
and couldnt beat ted lowery who had double digit losses going on into his fight ,couldnt knock him dow ,in fact couldnt do shit to ted lowery
@@chrisbennett6260 I wonder if your 300 pounds pure fat could knock him out
@@chrisbennett6260 everyone has a bad day. Maybe that was Mariano's worst day.
@@coreyham3753 he always wanted to outdue Lewis's training when he got started. Whatever they ran he ran double. Whatever they sparred he also went more. I never knew though he fought in the military. That's something!
1:30 LaStarza was someone who was hit on the arm repeatedly and he suffered a hairline fracture, elbow chipped and forearm broke, he also reputered blood vessels in his arm and Marciano had caused him to we e blood after the fight. Another two people famously had the same treatment where both 6ft 4.5 with over 80 inch reaches, one had to have extensive surgery on their arm and the other was paralysed.
@James T Finnegan You're obviously just bitter. Rocky was the greatest.
He actually knocked out a T-Rex in his amateur days, you can look it up.
There's no film of it, obviously, because it was 65 million years ago, but it definitely happened.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici rocky beat ali look it up......lol
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici it's amazing you wrote mutiple paragraphs and said nothing, except hyperbole, such a shame, now go away and look stuff up instead of being un-justly angry
@@Alex-cw3rz I think someone is upset about the Truth
@@2gunzup07 Actually, they "fought" twice if you really look it up. Rocky won one fight by UD, but lost the other on cuts late in a close fight. ;-)
What a legendary fighter and even better human. Rocky cried after the Joe Louis fight that alone should tell you the kind of man he was. Gone way ahead of his time. RIP Rocky.
@Jorge Pelongo yes, thank you.
He also cried after paralysing a different fighter
@Jorge Pelongo ruclips.net/video/0LPddiQXD9c/видео.html
@@Alex-cw3rz Genuine Heavyweights over our last 50 years would have put little Rocky in body bag.
@Let Your L⚡️GHT Forever Shine ❤️ don't worry, you'll most deffitnitly find out I hope if you lived a righteous life. 👍
Nice to see Rocky getting some credit for his defense these days. The talk was always about his freak power and great stamina. This is a great channel.
I forget which of his opponents said it, but he pointed out that Rocky always _looked_ like was taking more punishment than he was. And it wasn't just that he had a granite chin (though he did); it was also that his crouch, his head movement, his solid defense, all meant that opponents could hit him, but they couldn't get _solid_ hits, and most punches that he didn't block outright basically glanced off him without doing any real damage.
Rocky could never outpoint opponents because his short reach meant he would inevitably be hit because he had to be in range of his longer-armed opponents. Since avoiding punches entirely wasn't in the cards, he developed a solid technique for minimizing the effectiveness of his opponents' punches. Then his stamina allowed him to wear them down beating on their arms if he couldn't hit anything else, until they were so battered both their arms would be solid masses of pain, and they couldn't defend themselves effectively anymore. Then, if he hadn't managed a good, fight-stopping punch earlier, he'd create an opening and finish them off with one-punch knock out power, that he kept all the way to the end of the fight.
I remember there was a time when Mariano was overrated, especially for Italian Americans, he was the greatest ever, 49-0, and so on. Now he's criminally underrated, he's undersized, only fought old men, and so on. Truth is he was a great heavyweight, pound for pound also one of the greatest, not the greatest, but a legend none the least. A true testament of how far grit and determination can bring a man.
No .. he is still overrated!
@@serenityinside1 Dont act like mike tyson doesn't exist
@@serenityinside1 how is he overrated?
Marciano is the greatest, simply put the best heavyweight since Marciano still is nowhere close to his record. Wilder and Fury were close but that draw makes it impossible to match. Even still I doubt Uysk will match Marciano in the end.
@@Alex-cw3rz Mike Tyson fans act like he can knock any boxer in history out when Mike at his best couldn’t even KO Tucker, Tillis, Green, or Bonecrusher, ye he beat them but still not by KO, Mike fans I’ve seen before kept saying he could KO Ali or Foreman, like bro how?
Not to mention Mike didn’t exactly fight the best of the best, his Gen (80s) wasnt that good.
Watching Marciano is like seeing a ufo. You can’t believe what your eyes are telling you. He doesn’t look like a heavyweight, he isn’t as muscularly defined as most boxers, although always trim, and he doesn’t look like he’d be a big puncher at all. Yet he had massive power in both hands. And he literally never stopped throwing heavy punches all night long. His stamina was incredible. There must be a ‘way’ that big punchers throw their punches, that explains why Marciano could hit like a far, far bigger heavyweight. And you can see he’s hunting you down every second, looking to destroy. He knew very well that he only needed to get a good shot on and the fight may be won on that shot. He was always looking to land his ‘suzie Q’ ! 💥🥊
That's right!!!!!!!!
Rocky was very good at getting all his weight behind his punches.
A true master of strategy in the ring. He just looks so awkward until you see the strategic plan behind and the actual flow of his awkward seeming moves. Beautiful. Thank you so much for this.
He was quite uncoohordinate
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Not so. If that were true, several of those master fighters would have taken him out many times over. He moved like he did to throw off the other fighters attacks and set himself up for those famous punches of his. His moves were quite coordinated. Ergo his amazing record.
@@Shardrk23 his trainer doesn't agree with you
@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Hehe. Ain't we glad we don't all have to agree? Life would truly be quite boring that way. :-)
@@Shardrk23 well freedom means being free to wrong so, think whatever you want sir
Rocky lived, breathed, and ate training and conditioning, year around, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for eight years. Dan Cuoco of the International Boxing Research Organisation put it best:
“No fighter ever approached training and conditioning with the same fanticism Rocky did. Even when he wasn’t in camp training for a fight, his conditioning and training routines were more than any other fighter did in camp.”
Rocky’s conditioning was simply a level above anyone else’s, ever
Rocky was a relentless, highly conditioned, extremely powerful fighter who depended on an iron chin, his conditioning, to keep him firing away as well in the 15th as he was in the first, enormous strength, and a right hand which was as good a punch as boxing has ever seen. Budd Schulberg, award-winning screenwriter and boxing fanatic, correlated Marciano’s capability of grinding down an opponent to a:
“hydraulic drill attacking a boulder.”
Arthur Daley exalted him as a:
“perpetual motion punching machine.”
Rocky was a fanatic and dedicated trainee. Marciano’s boundless reserves of stamina explained his overpoweringly swarming style and his remarkable recuperative powers meant he was seldom troubled with any sort of fatigue.
Dan Cuoco of the International Boxing Research Organisation explained Marciano's success thusly:
“What Rocky Marciano gave up in height and reach he more than made up with one punch knockout power, extraordinary strength and stamina, an insatiable will to win, mental toughness and plenty of guts…Although he missed a lot his savage body attack would wear his opponents down. What he lacked in speed, he more than made up for by the volume of punches he threw. When he was caught with a good punch, his world class chin held up admirably.”
Rocky's trainer, the highly respected Charley Goldman, originally just laughed at the challenge facing him. But after a number of years of working with the dedicated Rocky he remarked:
“I got a guy who is short, stoop-shouldered and balding with two left feet, (Rocky’s victims) all look better than he does as far as moves are concerned, but they don’t look so good (laying) on the canvas.”
Rocky at 5'10 1/2" with the shortest reach of any champion, would almost always be undersized in comparisons with other champions, historically. But he is actually a half inch taller than Mike Tyson, though his reach was 3 inches shorter.
Still, heart, toughness, relentless motor, unmatched conditioning, desire, all have to count - Rocky had one style, and one motor. He went after his opponent, as Ali once said:
“he was the toughest, most determined fighter I ever saw. He was tougher than Joe Frazier, and I didn’ t think that was possible!"
Rocky was a man with an inhuman will, and desire to win, that fueled his fanatic training
Cus D’Amato, Mike Tyson’s surrogate father and the man who molded him into the youngest world heavyweight champion, was asked once to explain how a small heavyweight like Rocky could be so dominant. He replied:
“When men of near equal skill meet- the man with the superior "will to win" -will win every time, unless the man's skill is so far above that of his opponent that his will is not tested…Rocky had that superior will to win.”
Pulitzer Prize winner Red Smith said of Rocky:
“Rocky couldn't box like [Gene] Tunney, and probably couldn't hit like [Joe] Louis, but in one respect he had no challenger. He was the toughest, strongest, most completely dedicated fighter who ever wore gloves. Fear wasn't in his vocabulary and pain had no meaning."
His training regamin was inhuman
Rocky Marciano is an example of old fashioned training, which was far more intense than the “science based training “ of today.
Charlie Goldman told Rocky from his first day with him:
you know you’re a short, bald, fat guy. You ain’t got a lot of speed. Are you willing to put in the hours, and days, and months, and years, to bring what you do got to the top?”
And Marciano did.
In between fights he trained harder than 99% of fighters do in fight camp
In between fights, in the normal course of his life from 1947 to 1955, he would run 6-7 miles a day. His uncle, Charlie Piccento, said he even followed his routine and ran on Christmas mornings and every holiday, including his and his children’s birthdays. He never missed a day during his 8 year career, not one.
And that was in between fights, not in training camp.
Rocky also did calisthenics and other conditioning exercises in between fights. He would work the heavy bag especially, (in his case, the heavy bag was REALLY heavy!), just to help stay in top shape. His normal weight, with no discernible fat, was 205, and he made sure he never gained a pound over that in between fights.
When he went to training camp, Rocky became a warrior-monk.
Thank you for this comment.
Your comment had been absolutely fascinating and absorbing to read, thank you very much for writing it.
Do one on Joe Calzaghe. He fought with a broken left hand nearly his entire career yet accumulated a great KO ratio and retire undefeated. Probably the most underrated fighter in boxing history. :)
Agreed.
Had Calzaghe fought Roy Jones Jr. in Roy's prime, rather than when Roy was 35, Roy would have annihilated the slower, weaker Calzaghe. End of story.
@@martysomoco Okay. Doesn't matter to Calzaghe's legacy. Could have gone either way imo
@@martysomoco good story mate.
@@martysomoco No. Calzaghe beats him every day of the week and twice on Sunday
This was a great video! I guess it was recommended to me because I’ve watch a few boxing videos recently (about Tyson and Foreman specifically) - so thanks RUclips!
I loved the breakdown. I so admire the relentless fearless style that guys like Marciano had - but now I also have an appreciation for the technical aspects of his fighting which made him so great.
You brought up some very interesting and vital points in the Art of Rocky's movement ,, defense,, how he attacked
With rear foot slide ,, very good eyes you
Have in picking out these fine Scientific points Marciano had ,, Good job !!!
Absolutely the best insight I've ever seen on Rocky. Good stuff.
It comes as a shock that both George Foreman and Ken Norton would be two of the lightest fighters the Klitschko brothers have ever faced. George Foreman, whom they called "Big George" had an average median weight of 217 lbs through the entire 1970s. Foreman would be in the BOTTOM-3 of Vitali Klitshcko's LIGHTEST opponents he ever faced. And Ken Norton (208 lbs) would be in Wladimir Kliitschko's BOTTOM-2 LIGHTEST opponents he ever faced.
yeah interesting however this was foreman as a younger man rember they fought at that weight for a reason at that time , look at andy ruize fighting at 240 plus and his no taller than foreman or knorton ,when holmes fought in the 1990s he was alot bigger than his seventies and eightes weight wasnt he ,thats the weight they choose to fight at that time ,i think buster mathhus weihed alot in the 70s that didnt help him againdt fraizer, ,Anthony joshua weight and height didnt he;p him against uyske
Rocky Marciano was the best conditioned Heavyweight Champion of all time. He was just as powerful in the 15th Round, if you made that far, as he was in the first round.
Apparently boxing scholars claim Rocky was the most well conditioned boxer ever in any weight class, by far...!!
He was a freak, and he could have probably gone 50 rounds like they did in John L Sullivan's days.
@@skelelator Agreed
GOAT is debatable ( but he is clearly in the conversation) most well conditioned heavyweight is universal.
I must admit I always considered the key to Rocky's success being his insurmountable endurance. He'd simply overwhelm his opponents setting a pace they couldn't match, which wouldn't work against the better skilled opponents of modern times. But seems I underestimated the level of the Boston Blockbuster's technique and the nuances of it. Very interesting video.
Well when you already ran 6-7 hours BEFORE even in a training camp (where he ran 10 miles in camp to 15 miles on the last week then walked another 10 miles in the night EVERY SINGLE DAY), having already stellar conditioning before training does help his legs from turning to rubber mid fight.
Steroids?? Hahahaha
Steroids are been around but only white people knew about them,,this explains Ricky's endurance
Steroids
White man have been always cheating with steroids,,Rocky was on steroids,,just like All the Olympic medallist in that era,, know that everyone knows about steroids even Mexico has gold metal,, before only Germany, Russia,and off course USA,,
Marciano was a gentleman and a Killer all at the same time. Nobody was tougher.
That is the best breakdown of Marciano anyone will ever see.
One thing I loved is that when Rocky’s opponent falls, he knows that it’s enough, and he walks away because he knows that they fell, so he doesn’t need to keep hitting them
It's awesome to watch fights from 70 years ago and see the moves that elite fighters use today to great effect!
Marciano gets a bad rap because he was short and has short arms, not realising this was his biggest advantage he was perfect for inside boxing. And people think he couldn't deal with the bigger taller guys today, the tallest person he fought was 6ft 4.5 with over 80 inch reach and he paralysed the person in 4 rounds, the other person 6ft 4.5 person he fought for 6 rounds before a TKO, had to have extensive surgery on his arm. His heavy bag was 270lbs nowadays a heavy bag in 100lbs and he was making that bag swing more than most heavyweight can make an 100lb bag wing. He retired more careers than any other boxer in history and he broke more bones than any other boxer in history. His is a legend
I mean saying he'd be competitive against a giant like Fury is being a bit generous. But Marciano for his weight and height would be an insanely formidable modern cruiserweight.
@@RJALEXANDER777 Fury himself said he does worse against shorter opponents, Marciano did better the taller the person got, it allowed him to jump into range from further and it made it much easier to fight on the inside. Do you not think he'd put on at least 10lbs and go into heavyweight... The dudes an inside boxer, they are not even common anymore he would dominate heavyweight, he hit harder than anyone else there and couldn't be knocked out in 6 oz gloves what do you think 12 oz gloves would be a problem for him...
@@ctapuk3754 Three times.
@@ctapuk3754 but I can garentuee he'd have put on 10lbs or so
Thank you so much for this great breakdown! You only hear the name, the numbers, the stories. This footage and explanation of Marcianos tactics and style are a great service towards his fans, boxing scholars and to his legacy!
Rocky was my late father's favourite boxer and so naturally became mine. Even today, when so many great boxers have come and gone, Rocky is still up there as a favourite. He is a legend.
YES!!! I've been waiting for this since I first subscribed to your channel! Rocky is my favorite boxer of all time. If you're a shorter fighter out there - this man is your template!
I was often rebuked for intuitively using some of these tactics (shuffle step, exaggerated head roll to mask the rear overhand) by conventional "instructors"...which only served to put me right in front of their jab so they could bloody my nose more efficiently. Once I fought a fellow MA-boy who was like trying to hit smoke but hit like a hammer. He turned me on to Rocky. I started studying him and it clicked - I instantly adopted so much of his style. Not to say that I'm any good, but I am normally the smaller guy in the fight and you have to play to your strengths - Rocky's style did that in spades for me. Thank you so much for finally breaking him down and doing it so well. It's appalling and annoying to hear people disrespect his 49-0 record as anything other than an amazing athletic accomplishment so thank you, thank you, thank you!
I believe, in my prime, I could have fought with anybody alive. - Author: Rocky Marciano
When boxing was a true sport... not the garbage we have today.
This was an eye-opening presentation, highly insightful, and shows nuances that all I had read about Marciano lead me to believe his style did not have. Brilliant.
Nov 1990 Ring magazine issue has an interview with Roland Lastarza about the two Marciano fights.
About their 1st fight Rollie said that Rocky was unusually cautious in the early rounds.
"I wondered what he was up to, I'd thought he would come at me, bombing away. When I saw him jabbing and trying to box, I didn't know whether it was a trap or not. So I just stood back and did what I'd planned to do, jab and move."
(Marciano was warned 5 times for low blows in the first 5 rds and the 6th rd was given to Lastarza for fouls.)
Lastarza recalled, "I knew how close the fight was, everyone did. But overall I'm sure as income taxes that I outscored him. "I honestly feel I was the winner. The Associated Press had it 5-4-1 for me. Every reporter gave me the decision. They said I was robbed."
The close decision went to Marciano 5-4-1, 4-5-1 the ref scored draw.
"Before the first fight Al Weill promised us a return immediately if the fight was close. The next day he said, "We don't want to go back"..After that he avoided us like the plague. I did get frustrated here was Marciano making a bundle while I was fighting for peanuts."
Lastarza discounted the stories about the damage Marciano supposedly inflicted on his arms in their second fight. "There was a rumor after the fight that he hurt my shoulders and arms a lot, but the truth was that I had weak elbows from the fight before, and they were giving me trouble. They really went bad during the training before the Marciano fight. With the state of my elbows I really could not give a good account of myself. During the fight I was under the influence of pain-killers and I really needed them."
"Marciano couldn't hit me on the behind for the first five rounds.Then in the sixth I got a shot on my bad elbow, the strength went out of me, and I just stood there from then on. I couldn't move, I took it for five more rounds. They claimed he was punishing me instead of kayoing me, but he was doing his damndest to knock me out, and he couldn't do it for those five rounds because I took a good punch. I was still standing when they stopped the fight."
Lastarza was interviewed by James Dusgate
Archie Moore fought clay and marciano said clay would win ,and walcot who fought marciano and refereed clay and liston said ali was better than all of them and that includes joe louis who he fought as well
well researched
rocky reportedly fought his brother four times under different names in the ring magazine according to Larry Holmes ,were exhibitions were included in his fights
It's so good to see that you understand the talent Rocco had, he is my favorite fighter ever, the more you study him the more you realize how great he was, the greatest fighter ever.
The Great Rocky Marciano will always be remembered when you ask , What Heavyweight King never lost a fight ?
Yeah I just can't find a way to get around Perfection. 😎
The scoring for the bout was 5-4, 4-5, and 5-5, a draw between LaStarza vs Marciano. But LaStarza lost on a very controversial supplemental point system used by New York only at that time ..LUBEK'S THREELOGY, THE SWEET SCIENCE 2: Jan Lubek - 2013 · Biography & Autobiography. "Supplemental points system used by NY from 1920's until 1980's was misused, it was a joke to please boxing's lowlife, aka lowly elements".. What had happened was Roland LaStarza refused to pay Mafioso a % percentage. Al Weill, Rocky's Mafioso manager and matchmaker at the Garden was already receiving 50% of Marciano's income so he was good to go. Now y'all finally understand the truth about why LaStarza was robbed of his draw. With a record of 48-0-1 little Rocky wouldn't even be ranked top 20. That 49-0 is the only reason Marciano still exist top 10.
Supplemental point system = Mafioso
The biggest weapon Rocky had was his size and how he mastered his weight shifting and stamina. I'm a retired charity boxer. 31-1-0 with 28 KOs, fought at 5'10" and 235. I'm a decently stocky guy. The main thing I learned in my career was how to use your size and weight as the weapon. His shifting his weight basically turned ALL of his punches into throwing wrecking balls at his opponent. Something similar to what Jack Dempsey did. Marciano compacted a lot of Dempsey's theory and style to work with his size with or without realizing it. His unusual shifting turned him into an extremely dangerous pendulum and when he targeted his opponent's arms to deaden them, all of that power from his shifting amplified several fold. I always loved how he fought since I adapted a combination of Marciano, Dempsey, Tyson and Hearns. I'm not a super tall guy, but I learned how to throw my weight and aim for the right spots to destroy what came my way when I needed to. But yeah, from what I learned from watching his fights was that he basically became a pendulum of doom with no room for stopping until the other guy fell and that was it.
You are not stocky at 5'10", the adjective applies to people of around 6 or 7" shorter and powerfully built.
No that's definitely stocky...
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
Absolutelyyyy Rocky had heart. Just as Joe Frazier was all heart. But look what Big George did to Frazier's heart, bounced it up and down off the canvas like a basket🏀ball. Little Hearts can only take you so far in the land of Bigger Hearts. Size Matters.
I am not a trained boxer and don’t have insights on boxing ways.. previously i thought rocky was just flailing his arm around landing punches by chance… but this video enlightened me.. i can truly appreciate and understand the techniques rocky used!! Genius!!
People talk about him being flat footed but being flat footed gives you more power in your punches your critiquing the thing that makes him so great
@The Tide Rises scientifically yes. Feet planted to the ground generates more power this is just a fact.
@@Alex-cw3rz it’s more about use, flat footed vs on your toes, one is for more power and the other is better for footwork (generally but not always) and faster punching. Flat foot also uses less energy.
Rocky`s strength was the stuff of legend. Joe Louis said " It hurt if you bumped into him."
Louis was a old man grandpa in boxing terms when they fought
🔷James D. Norris was president of the International Boxing Club of New York from 1949 to 1958. The IBC dominated boxing in the U.S. in the 1950s, but was dissolved by the courts, which ruled it to be a monopoly. As president of the IBC, Norris was involved with organized crime figures. Norris was responsible for fixing numerous bouts. Besides match fixing, he was also unofficially managing many boxers against their will.
The mob controlled it all, from the trainers and managers to the reporting journalists, with a combination of intimidation and financial backing ensuring everybody the mob wanted was under their control.
Every day the evidence stacked up against mafioso bosses Palermo and Carbo particularly, with a list of their associates touching almost every major player in 1950’s boxing. Eventually the verdict was damning; 25 years in Alcatraz for Carbo, 15 years in prison for Palermo. Rocky visited both in prison numerous times.
Italian Rocco Francis Marchegiano aka Rocky Marciano was a protected fighter. Entire eastern seaboard was Italian, it was all Italian. Even the commissioner of boxing was Italian. Al Weill, Rocky's Mafioso manager and matchmaker at the Garden was already receiving 50% of Marciano's income so the Rock was good to go. Others were not so lucky because they refused to pay their dues like Roland LaStarza,, and that's exactly why he lost 1st fight vs Marciano. It's been proven that Eldridge Eatman and Pete Louthis Took-a-Dive vs Rocky.
Archie Moore was born December 13, 1913. Light heavy champ Moore moved up in weight to fight Marciano at the age of 41. Imagine if Marciano was 41 and moved up in weight to fight 32 year old Moore. The fallacy that Moore & Walcott peaked at 40+ years old is a misleading unsound argument and scientifically impossible.
RIP Sir. He is for certain the true meaning of the word Gentleman. Incredible boxer, and a great man. There hasn't been anyone like him since. Thank You very much for the video, and analysis. Liked, and Shared.
He never stopped throwing punches. Ever. And his conditioning was second to none
I have defended Rocky Marciano's name for an entire decade, and he will always be my favorite bar none. But two of the ATG fighters that Rocky did face were light heavyweights that simply gained a few pounds, then moved up for the money because the 50s heavy division was completely void of any quality authentic 200+ lb "Heavyweights"
Yeh but those "lightweights" were amazing and they were heavier than Marciano
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
@@blackDavid-n-mexicaliMargot Don't confuse modesty with reality.
Sonny Iiston was 12-1 when rocky marciano retired
The best analysis on Marciano I have ever seen. Two thumbs up!
Only getting dropped twice in his entire career when in 6oz gloves that is incredible
Dude, you don't need to spam 500 comments on a single video, good lord.
@@MrRizeAG he's my favourite boxer so I just commented when I remembered something else
People say he only beat Joe Louis because he was old, but keep in mind Joe Louis was on a 8 win streak at this time and was 37 not even old for a heavyweight
Man, Joe Louis was 78 years old! ;)
He was 122
@@TheModernMartialArtist he used to lie about his age I asked Frank and he said he was 137 years old
He still didn't fight joe Louis in his prime. Rocky never fought a good boxer in their prime
@@TheModernMartialArtist Every time we talk about boxin' some white man gotta bring up Rocky Marciano!!
Marciano and Tyson will always be my favourite boxers
Wow didnt realize Rocky had fighting mechanics ahead of his time.
He was among the prime boxers who used their popularity to move a great cause, he was active in promoting American Heart Assn., Red Cross and US Army
You have a knack for showing the obvious from the not so obvious when it comes to boxing.. I knew in watching countless times that Marciano didnt get hit nearly as often as was his undeserved reputation for having no defence, and he rarely got hit with a combination. He was in fact more defensively responsible than lets say Joe Frazier, who had a similar style...this is why when people match him with other fighters like, lets say Liston when both are in their prime, it wouldnt have been a forgone conclusion as some think..I remember seeing Marciano introduced into the ring in the Liston Patterson fight and when rocky goes to liston to wish him luck, he looks the same size...in this fight for example, Liston would have more trouble I think than people realize...certainly if Marciano go get to the 5th round without taking too much damage Liston gets in deeper dangerous water, each preceding round...Look what happened after Walcott floors rocky in the first round...Walcott has enormous difficulty hitting him again in that round, as Marciano stifles Walcott's progress...nice analysis.
Foreman said Liston was the only fighter that made him back up in the ring & that Sonny was stronger & had more power than any Heavyweight Boxer he ever sparred or fought against. Walcott knocked Marciano down to the canvas with an average punch at best. Liston knocked Patterson out twice in the 1st round in both of their title fights. Rocky was a very slow fighter who didn't fight good in the early rounds of his Title Fights. It's laughable that you're saying Marciano looked like the same size as Liston. Sonny was 6'1.5"
at 215lb with an 84" reach and 15" fist size. Rocky was 5'10" at 184lb with a 67" reach & a 11.5 fist size(Rocky was the smallest heavyweight with the smallest hands & shortest reach in Boxing History.) Sonny had the biggest hands & one of the longest reaches of any heavyweight champion. Liston was at least 40 years old when he fought against a 22 year old Ali on 2/25/1964 and he had pulled a tendon in his left shoulder in training camp prior to their fight. Sonny's handlers filed a petition for a medical postponement with the Florida Boxing Commission which was denied and he was told if he didn't fight against Ali on their scheduled fight date, that he would be stripped of his Title.
Liston had torn the tendon inhis left shoulder completely off the bone by the end of the 5th round and it bled into his left bicep, making it virtualy impossible to throw a left jab and to use it to block Ali's punches. Sonny ended up quitting on his stool by the end of the 6th round a beaten & broken man.
The Prime Sonny Liston from 1958-1962 would've beaten a prime Marciano from 1951-1955 in my opinion. The fight wouldn't go past 3 rounds. Marciano never fought against a real heavyweight fighter in their prime, hence his chin was never tested against the most powerful heavyweight Boxers from the 50s like Liston, Williams & Valdes.
Patterson was much quicker than Rocky and fundamentally a much better Boxer and he didn't last more than 1 round against Liston.
Rocky was definitely the greatest heavyweight Champion. He did things that other fighters couldn't accomplish like getting low and coming up to hit. That creates better defense and made him hard to hit. His Sunday punch was devastating and sharp; which caught many fighters by surprise. He was better than my favorite boxer, Smokin' Joe Frazier. He was much better than the big mouth fighters who run around the ring and claim to be to the best like the "Louisville lip". So far no boxer comes close to Marciano; he's the best EVER and undefeated; 49-0.
My two favs as well, great comment
He was good but let’s not take the piss, he’s FAR from the greatest heavyweight boxer to the point where it isn’t even a question you’re just flat up wrong. There’s like a million fighters who could get low and come up to hit,
Muhammad Ali with the flu, and years past his prime would beat prime Marciano in an EASY 15 round UD, without losing a round, Ali beat the likes of
Prime Foreman, Prime Frazier, Prime Liston, Prime Chuvalo, Prime Cooper, Terrel, Williams Folley, Bonavena, Patterson, Quarry, Foster, Norton, Lyle, Spinks, and Shavers.
Who did Marciano beat? Louis was further past his prime than literally any boxer ever. His only two DECENT wins are a past his prime Ezzard Charles and past his prime Joe Walcott. Marciano’s best wins wouldn’t even be top 15 of Ali’s wins. Ali is better than Marciano in every single way other than power. And it’s insulting to even compare them, let alone rank Marciano higher.
@@bigboris5774
'Ali' was a 'ray cist mahzlum' pos.
Quit whatever it is that you taking, and open up your eyes. Frazier would have beat him at least 7 of 10 times. Liston would have made a punk out of him! Educate yourself, go through his fights on "Boxing Record" on the net, and read my post on this. Read the commentary on his 21st fight against Ted Lowry whos record was
64-49-9 when they fought, and how he had Marciano kocked out in three different rounds, but the mob had paid him $2,500 to lose...If you can't figure that one out, you have problems. (the only reason, was because they knew this fighter with 49 losses was a danger to this no talent thug getting knocked out!) I believed all the hype most of my life, about his ability, but I never believe he could have beat Liston, Ali or Frazier and Foreman. But with all the info Boxing Rec gave me, I know realize how big a fabracation his careear was. He doesn't even rate in the top 10. He wouldn't even fight Cleveland Williams, the hard hitting heavy who was in his prime; Liston destroyed the "Big Cat" twice...and when Liston won the title, Marciano came up with excuses as to why he was dropping his return to the ring, that he started when the light hitting Johannson was champ. He knew, and his mob handlers knew his phoney ass couldn't stand up to a true heavy that had power!....its the same as the BS about Mantle hitting a 600 ft HR
Mr Lip was a hell of a fighter.
Opponents said getting hit by Rocky Marciano was like getting hit with a sledgehammer.
Rocky knew no defense. He was a tank.
It's clear to see why he was undefeated. On top of natural gifts and hard work, he was ahead of his time in so many different ways with technique
Most amazing thing is him overcoming the lack of reach, turning a weakness into a strength.
And he never had to contend with Muhammad Ali.
He got most of his opponents from the old folks home. That's all there was left for him to fight though. Can't blame him for having the Larry Holmes problem. Holmes had the same issue of unworthy opponents. He never got a real good rival.
Walcott came the closest though, and he was like 40 years old at the time. Walcott had the speed and dancing style of Muhammad Ali, but he was significantly slower and smaller than Ali was. That's why most people think Ali would have danced circles around Rocky.
A real good test of Marciano would have been Joe Frazier. That would have been a bloodbath! Both guys coming at each other head on with power , so much power!
And I always wonder how rocky would have stood up to George Foreman's power. That would have been a real chin test! I think George would have been easy pickings for Rocky if he'd made it past the first three rounds, he would have tired George out just like Muhammad Ali did.
@@paysonfox88 Still with this old excuse ?? The truth is that you Americans don't like the fact that a white Italian is the greatest heavyweight of all time.
especially the black americans you tried to get over rocky from that ridiculous floyd who says he made 50-0 ahahaahaha, yes, however, in featherweights and buying matches.
@@paysonfox88 An Italian white is the greatest of all time and is undefeated in the heavyweights.
It's time for Americans to accept it, especially black Americans.
@@paysonfox88 An Italian white arrived and smashed everyone's ass, that's the truth.
Great breakdown of a legend. I always felt Rocky never got the credit he deserved as a skillful boxer.
He wasn’t a fighter, he was a force of nature.
Didn't small 182 lb Patterson KO the ATG Archie Moore in only 5 rounds when it took unproven Marciano 9 rounds?
"I felt Floyd Patterson is a vastly improved fighter. He has potentialities of being a great fighter when he gets some experience. I felt confident I could beat him, but I also learned that youth can be too much." - Archie Moore
Rocky fans are screaming, "HOW WAS ROCKY UNPROVEN". Well Charles & Moore received their ATG status at light heavyweight not heavyweight. ATG Walcott was old man at 43, and ATG Louis was ring-worn and washed.. Marciano was Unproven!!!
Even when Rocky wins he is a bum to you. He did win and fought most of his opponents more heavy than him. Several of his opponents talked smack and said he was nothing, almost as bad as you do. Have you noticed you are out-numbered with the people sending you text. Also, it is possible that if he was in a lighter division that no one would have wanted to fight him. He took more hits than anyone I saw and kept coming. Amazing to me at least.
@black David How could have been the "smallest cruiserweight division of all time." when in fact there was no such division? You make no sense what so ever.
@@margot9215 aka David McFrost Excellent come back. How long did it take you to think of it?
I think one other interesting thing about how he held his head which allowed him to tuck his chin in so you could only hit the top of his head which is the hardest part of your skull, Tyson Fury uses this technique competely different style of fighters, but both know that it doesn't matter if you lose height when you can't get knocked out.
Such good analysis on this channel... thank you for opening my eyes to the innovative techniques that Rocky implemented... something not mentioned that stands out to me, is that Tyson also used a lot of lateral off-the-line movement when and low head to get within range against taller punchers, and then also unleashed a lot of circular punches with his whole body weight behind them.
Don't let anyone tell you different, Marciano faced some very formidable hall of fame opponents. Walcott and Charles were not washed up when they fought him. They both fought the first fight brilliantly. While Rocky stopped the old mongoose it was a grueling fight. At first Moore seemed the better boxer but the Blockbuster would not be stopped. His incredible conditioning and brutal punching were all to much for Archie. Rocky defined what the heart of a champion is in this fight.
He should have fought Liston or Patterson.
Patterson he may beat but Liston is too strong for Marciano. All those 49 fights they shown five of them, where are the rest of the highlights, Charles, Walcott, Lastarza, Louis, Lane are the only ones they have shown
I LIKED THE ALI FIGHT BEST....HE TRYED....
Those opponents you mentioned were all well past their prime. Rocky’s timing in the division was everything.
@@whitneywilliams317 Even Sonny Liston said of Marciano, "This was one of the greatest champions ever. He refused to accept defeat. And no one ever beat him."
@@ThouSwell-zx3fd yeah, but they never fought so we'll never know who's better, but if I were a betting man, I'd out my money Liston, he's literally to strong for Marciano, just an opinion tho
Honestly I think this is your best breakdown to date. Most people seem rocky as a brute. However this breakdown really show what a great fighter he was and how high his fight IQ was.
should have been able to knock down tiger ted lowery who he could never put down and tiger ted lowery was an ex middleweight
I can tell a lot of these commentators did not watch the footage. This proves Rocky's skill, tactics, conditioning and power are all top tier. People bringing up taller foes wouldnt matter when hes implementing this style of fighting. The fact spectators and boxers think he has no skill, is why he would destroy them. They have zero clue what he's doing. All they know is the pain of the hammers.
awkward but extremely powerful. Hard to beat a guy like that.. His footwork is so unorthodox,, Great Champion in my book,
1:30 the person who he consistently punched in the arm was 6ft 4.5 had a well over 80 inch reach and the guy had to have extensive surgery on his arm after 6 rounds before being KO'd and only had one fight after Marciano, he got out lucky as the other guy he fought who was 6ft 4.5 and over an 80 inch reach Marciano paralysed one of 18 careers Marciano ended. LaStarza who also got the arm treatment, had a hairline fracture, elbow chipped and forearm broke, he also reputered blood vessels in his arm and Marciano had caused him to we e blood after the fight.
Real giant killer
At those heights you better be able to grapple him decently enough to lean on his back
I posted this a while back - he did some training in a pool wading in deep water. He would wade end to end throwing punches underwater. This is from a book on his life, a bio of sorts with input from Rocky. I cannot recall the title but I do recall he had other
other different training ways.
Creed used this in the movie