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Cheap airbrush vs a branded iwata airbrush
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2018
- In this video we test a cheaper 'no name' airbrush and see how it performs in relation to a Iwata HP-CS eclipse.
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I have the createx cx1. Why can't i remove the aircap without removing the whole nozzle?
I'm 77 years old and been painting since teenager. Made some money and had them all. Hands down, the only one I'd buy again is Paasche VL. Solid and sturdy and easy to afford and last I checked , still made in Chicago!!! Have an able friend rig up a refrigerator compressor and your off to the races. And, forget all that trap about special paints and use acrylics and start counting profits instead! I've got a shirt that's 40 some years old! And with any brush care and cleaning is important.
That's what I've been having a hard time trying to figure out what paint to buy. So I just bought some cortex water base acrylic for $ 20 bucks for red, green, black, blue, yellow, white to get myself started I'll learn as I will go along maybe I paid to much. They might have some paints at Wal Mart I didn't even check. I just want to use this air gun and supplies that went with it. Few diffrent air brushes I have no idea who makes them it was all given to me. Like you said just clean it up when your done and take care of it. That's what everyone was telling me as long as you keep it clean up before putting it away.
@@snoopu2601 Paint does matter though. Acrylics are great, but if you do small work like figures then get good quality ones with fine pigment or otherwise you will be messing around with your airbrush and your airflow and your thinners trying to figure out why you can't get the result you want. I love Valejo paints since the quality is great and they can be thinned down a lot while still painting very well so they last me forever.
I'm 27yrs in and first started with Badger 150/Paasche VL/ Thayer & Chandler Vega...the only one I can still fire up from those days and handle a hustle is the VL. The Vegas were just as good, I just can't find any of mine and I had a manifold of 6🤔 I first got my Iwata Eclipse in 97' it's the only match to the VL parts and performance wise...but if I want to go commando w/ a single airbrush, I'd pull out my all chromed out VL with the snub air cap/button trigger/cutaway handle official Paasche mods and single airbrush a tshirt hustle quick, I know one half second plug to a cleaner bottle, she's ready for any color in the hue range.
Eclipse takes just a little longer still despite their floating nozzle design.
That's fine if you want a siphon feed, which isn't for anyone. The Talon or Vision are better for a little more. And paint quality and composition IS important. 40 years ago you didn't have access to the stuff we do now, and it matters because its better.
Hey how do you make money with the airbrush painting?
I’ve been airbrushing for 47 years. What I’ve learnt is the basic principles of how an airbrush works is the same no matter the make or price of a unit. A plastic body vs a metal one makes no difference. What does effect the quality of work out of any airbrush is how the paint is thinned, air pressure and technique. None of this has anything to do with the so-called “quality” of the airbrush.
what the best airbrush machine to buy?
I appreciate you posting this. The “we’re going to compare *this* clear piece of garbage to a name brand airbrush who’s company has clearly given me a kickback” comparison videos are tiring at best and misleading at worst.
I agree. I've not tried airbrushing yet, but as an artist a pencil is a pencil. In fact if you can learn on a "lower quality" tool, moving up to a pricer one is a bonus, but the basic techniques and understanding the basic tool is what really matters.
Sorry but you're full of it. I've used everything from an Aztec brush to a paasche, vega 2000, and my to go to brush the hpc Iwata. I can tell you that it makes a huge difference in the brush you use. That's fact. And a plastic airbrush is as useless as tits on a mouse. Try running solvents through one then let those out there know what you think after those solvents start breaking down your brush components. As far as water based paints think about it. Acrylic paint running through a plastic unit. Plastic paint tends to stick to plastic parts rather well. Makes cleaning a bitch. been painting automotive pieces for a while and I'd never use a plastic airbrush.
@@mikeklug3369 you may in fact be right, but it doesn't make you a better artist. It may make you a quicker artist, and be of less hassle, but the tool alone is not the important thing. I have also heard that Iwata is a superior brand :) If you move from an iwata to a cheaper, almost marginal, airbrush your work will suffer a great deal until you adapt to the specific eccentricities of the new tool.
4:14 Begin the airbrush review.
(No more talking).
Yep....lol always either too much or too little info
Thank god!
@@AirbrushAsylum it isn't the amount of information that makes people crazy, it's the repetition.."we've preloaded it with thinned out paint".....15 seconds later "the paint is pre thinned and ready to go" "some people just want to use it to fill in background on canvas or whatever"...20 seconds later..."like I said some people might just want to fill in backgrounds" ....I think you probably just need to work on editing your videos and it'll be fine.....constructive criticism for what it's worth.
@@AirbrushAsylum no matter WHAT you'll have critics. I don't mind repeated info.... many REQUIRE that... I personally enjoy your videos...
@@AirbrushAsylum nah, the dude is a dumb ass, you'll spend the whole video not knowing which one is the one that costs 10 times more. if he wanna watch someone paint, go watch bob ross.
it's great how far the cheaper products have come,
having a pretty low entry barrier will definitely help more people get into the hobby/art
Yes agree and it is great to encourage more people to get into airbrushing
I just bought a $20 airbrush, we'll see how it goes when it gets here
@@TheAechBomb What airbrush is it? A 20$ airbrush sounds crazy!
@@brandurr7630 www.amazon.com/dp/B00EKUU0WY/
it's a top-feed Master airbrush, and it's OK for what I needed (mostly just base coats and basic detail)
it's not perfect but I'd say it's worth the $23 if you just need it for basic stuff like I do
Till you realize you need to buy a compressor. Whoo....
What's the most important part of an airbrush? The person using it.
Yes but the paint atomization must be good or youre paintings wont look that good even if you are a good painter.
Excellent!!!! I was looking at that exact red airbrush online yesterday (it comes in gold & black colours too) but I wasn’t sure, never done airbrushing before so didn’t wanna spend a fortune straight up but obviously wanted something that wasn’t completely useless either.... Perfect video for me, THANK YOU!!! ☺️💜
The Iwata HP-CS is my workhorsre. I have had mine since 2008 and have only needed to replace the needle, nosle and the part that grips the needle. I love it.
Yes fantastic airbrush as an all rounder and it can also create fine details when needed 👍🏻
I learned how to use my airbrush in this clip than all the tips and tricks clips I’ve seen so far.. nice ...
Lol, that’s great that it helped
Great review. Thanks for making it.
I mostly just paint models, so I didn't want to spend a fortune on an airbrush. I've been using cheapos for about thirty years. Ten years ago, I bought a $100 dual action airbrush. It works really well for the price. I still have a couple of $15-$20 syphon-fed airbrushes that I use for basic work, such as when I want to paint entire pieces a single colour. They're easy to clean because they can't be taken apart very much. I just run some white spirits or water through the cheap brushes & use a cotton bud to get into the tricky areas. The dual action airbrush is syphon or gravity fed. I prefer gravity fed. It's a pain to clean though, because there are about 20 parts. I like to give that a proper cleaning after each session of using it.
That shadow under the words is really impressive
Lol thank you 🙏🏻
Cool I haven't airbrushed in nearly 30years and a lot of systems and paints have changed over the years and now I'm trying to get back into it again. Going to go with a cheep system for now and practice again. Thanks for the info.
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I just started again after a 22 year layoff
Main thing I have always told students about airbrushes and the buying there of. 1) The end result is 80% the actual artist's abilities. I have made some cheap equipment work for demos (I was paid to do) by upping the air pressure and thinning down the medium. 2) The quality of the paint/medium used (5%). (an example; Fabric paints are a pain for fine detail images) Water colours are so simple to spray detail with. 3) The airbrush accounts for around 15% in most cases.
When purchasing an airbrush: A) is it for hobby work or the other end, professional markets. B) where are you located in the world... can you drive down the road and pick up spare parts, if it comes from overseas and you drop that baby in the middle of a job ... you see my point?) C) Reality check, can you afford the high end and it's replacement needles/tips. an example; a high end EFBE German airbrush tip and needle set is well over $100 AUS while a Sparmax set is around 35-40 bucks.
Finally, always remember the airbrush doesn't make the art great, you do. I've been doing it for over 50 years and at one time or another I've been a service agent for Olympus, Paasche, Iwata, EFBE and Sparmax here in Australia. I own two AB Turbo's (no longer made), 4 EFBE (all sizes, including the 0,15mm), several Paasche (all sizes and models) about 8 Sparmax with the SP-35 my favorite. A very old HPC, (that I changed the packing washers to allow me to use solvent base paints) and two HPBs. Had a Micron, got rid of it as the EFBE 0.15 was able to do finer detail.(again personal choice)
So to sum it up, buy the best you can afford, from a company near your location, that will handle your type of work. And practice all the time ... and then practice some more. DON'T TRUST THE GUY OR GAL AT THE ART STORE SELLING IT! Odds are they are sales reps, not airbrush experts. You can read the box, and that's what they are doing ;) ...
Yes Ken so true, the artists ability definitely makes all the difference 👍🏼
Now you are the kind I would love to learn from, is there a site which displays some of your work? I really want to see it, thanks
Mate, I suffer from wounds I got in Vietnam (101st Airborne, Strike Force) which have forced me to retire. I've just set up my new studio and purchase on a fine art printer, Drew Blair and JW Baker both told me this was the unit to buy so in time I will be selling Limited edition of wild life art Under Airbrush Ken. Airbrush Asylum is run by a great guy down in Victoria ... sadly not as cool as Sydney, but he never listens to me ... lol ... I am serious about practice makes the artist. You have to train your muscles to respond without forethought. It's magic when you look at an image you are trying to create and just drop the pressure/pinch the air hose, move a few mills further from the surface, without thinking about it, because you've trained you muscles to react to your visual input. I love to paint, I'm in 7th Heaven working with ease , creating what I visualize. It's like pinstriping. Feeling the pull of the paint on the surface ... after lots of practice it become second nature. I paint usually 4-5 days a week, in the past many weeks 7 days ... it's not work, it's love. Good Luck
I could not agree with you more my friend, and thank you for your service in vietnam I missed going in the draft by just a few months I cant imagine the hell you endured. I have the utmost respect for you, sir.
Thank you for your service, sir I could not agree more and as you said, It's a labor of love I wish I had started earlier and had more time to do it more! I could never stop.
Your comparation is SO good
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. a lot of us beginners can't afford the IWATA yet.
No probs glad you found it helpful 👍🏼
An alternative to Iwata is Badger, and NO there not paying me. They are reasonably priced and of great quality.
Great video. The problem with the cheaper airbrushed is the longevity. Because they use rubber bushings, if you use cellular service or lacquer thinner it will destroy the rubber eventually.
Good point thanks for the comment 👊🏻
I just bought that one at Amazon some weeks ago and I love it :3 I just use the airbrush to apply sealant and change the skin colour of my dolls and I NEVER thought my aribrush was able to do such fine lines xD I learned something today!
Thanks for your comment and glad you are enjoying the airbrush and glad you found the vid helpful 😉👍🏻
Thanks, interesting to see....especially as a way to try this out...
Thank you and glad you found it helpful 👌🏻🙏🏻
in everything in my life i have noticed that theres always a sweetspot for price to performance, and after that the price just goes exponentially for a linear shift in performance.
Thanks for your comment 👍🏻
I'm just amazed you did all that with no "spittle" from the brush. Every time I use an airbrush I have to spray to the side every time I pause to get rid of any build up. Makes me think I'm doing something wrong!
Scott Sproul He keeps the air flowing all the time thru the brush (trigger depressed). That prevents the build-up on the tip of the needle that causes splatter. But if you want to work in that manner, make sure you have a good compressor.
Thanks , it is true using the double action technique correctly will help to minimize tip dry and in turn stop spitting of the brush and as the other comment also mentioned a compressor that can adequately provide consistent airflow will help dramatically 👍🏼
I hope you do an updated comparison. I think a lot of cheap AB releases has improved after 2 years since your comparison review. I wonder how the new cheap ones compares to the branded ones
I have the Iwata HP-CS. My all time favorite airbrush.
I also have a fake version of Iwata's top end detailing brush - it's priced at roughly $30 on Amazon.
It is very well made for the price point and performs quite well as long as you take very good care of it as with anything.
Between the two, i find that Iwata is much easier to clean.
Looking at the spray patterns up close, the Iwata has a much finer atomized spray but I'm not too concerned with that when I'm customizing shoes.
Great video!
Great video, very inspiring !!
Thank you 👌🏻👍🏻
I own 4 Master airbrushes and they average a price of around $30 each on Amazon, and as long as you take care of them and treat them right these work fantastic, and for the price if you dropped one by accident its cheaper then replacing a $120+ Iwata model.
I have heard many good things about Master airbrushes I have never used them but have heard lots of people talking about them. Thanks for your comment 👍🏻
Sir can you tell me the model of your 30$ Master airbrush please? Would like to get one to start learning. Thanks in advance.
About 4 years ago, I decided that I wanted to try a side feed but was afraid to spend big money on a brush that I wouldn't like - so I bought a Master SB86.
It wasn't too bad out of the box, but because replacement needles are cheap, I decided to experiment...
A little black magic marker on the needle tip (to make sure I followed the right angle), about 10 seconds in the drill with 3000 grit (at LOW speed), followed by another 20 seconds or so with some Flitz to polish it up, and now it preforms as well as my Iwata.
No more $200 - $500 airbrushes for me.
If I had all the money I've spent on top dollar airbrushes since I started back in 1981, I'd have dozens of Masters right now. LOL
(Still not quite sure I like the balance/feel of a side feed though)
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Take a look at the G44.
Thanks for the answer friend but in the meantime i bought a H&S and i couldnt be more happy with it.
Once again many thanks mate ;)
i use the cheap one, and i've learned something from this vid! THX!
Glad you found it helpful thank you for your comment 👍🏼
Thank you for this video and all of the vids you have posted, because of you I've started airbrushing again after several years. Also, I truly respect your honesty when doing comparisons of equipment. You give us noobs hope knowing that we don't have to break the bank to start airbrushing.
BTW, with your talent you could probably spray ink through a turd and still create a beautiful work of art 😀
Oh wow... just realized I need to buy the air pump now.
good on ya for a fair review
Very usefull, thank you!
I bought that red cheap AB too. I'm glad I did. It's smooth :D I'll move up when i breaks :D
Sir, cannyou please link it? Thanks alot ✌🏼
@@fabiorodrigues890 its all over aliexpress, you can find one under 5 minutes
@@slipknotfan2217 thanks mate i already bought one KKmoon and im very happy. Thanks again ✌🏼👍🏼
@@fabiorodrigues890 no problem, im also looking to buy a kkmoon airbrush
Anyone know the reason why my ab is working with water but not paint even if I thin it I've also cleaned it out and the needle doesn't go in unless I take the nozzle out 1st please let me know also I got that cheap one
It all falls down to user preference and user skills plus budget. I still use cheapos for my model painting because I feel like I am not worthy to have an expensive one yet lol, no joke. Yet maybe in the years to come I might buy a branded one once I level my skills up to jet, tank and car models. One thing the cheapos teach you is to clean your airbrush thoroughly and never skimp on it because you know it's gonna mess up if you don't. Thank you for this vid! 👍
Thank U for the nice advice , greetings from belgium /europ
I have an HP-CS for around 8 years now, and it's fantastic for the money as the best starter brush. After I outgrew it, I stepped up to a Micron CM-C+ V2 which is truly something you can appreciate once you have those thousands of hours spraying, and to take it a step further my other Micron CM-SB V2 is an even further improvement. I earned my B.A. in Art Studio with those brushes, Iwata has always been my go to, and always will be. But, like you said their are few of us that are full time artists, and need that kind of performance day after day.
Yes...this is SO true, many people don’t want to even spend $100 on a brush ‘to see if it something that they may enjoy’ therefore a cheaper alternative is a great way to ‘have a play’ then when you are hooked you can then buy a reputable brand. I have all of those brushes mentioned and agree totally that the CS eclipse is a great all rounder but once your skill improves you really can’t go past a micron 😜👍🏼
Whats the difference, they are essentially the same airbrush? I have two Hp cs and they never fail, no matter the application. The micron has a slightly smaller needle ? The design is almost identical though from what i see.
Very enlightening thank you
Thanks glad you enjoyed the vid 👊🏻👊🏻
Hey bro thanks for the info I was thinking of air brushing I had a accident that damage the nerve of my right hand witch I used to draw with and my left can't control the motion to use a pencil but I miss drawing it was my escape and constantly having ideas and images in my head to put on paper that's why I was thinking of airbrushing I lost my job because of the accident so thinking of purchasing a cheaper brush machine thanks brother God bless
Thanks appreciate the comment 👊🏻
I’ll be using my airbrush system to do card making background of multiple cards
I love my cheap 20$ airbrush for big things like primer, rough shading or terrain. Anything fine where consistency is important; nope. Being cheap means I can abuse it without feeling guilty and it's so simple it is surprisingly sturdy. It was my first one which did cause me some problems trying to learn airbrushing. It took me a long while to figure out wether a problem was because of me or because of my cheap airbrush. Most problems were because of me (not thinning paint well enough or wrong pressure) but after trying everything I found out that my cheap brush is simply inconsitent with fine work, despite polishing the needle etc. So learning to airbrush with a cheap brush..well it has pros and cons.
Yes, well said ...cheap is ok if you want to just give airbrushing a go or use the airbrush for a short period of time to spray a few backgrounds or blends and then bin it...investing in a quality airbrush will always pay off in the long run. 👍🏻
Thanks for a great review. I am getting my first airbrush for modelling in just a few weeks in probably the same class / quality as you are showing here.
I take away from this that it will be just fine for my major camouflage schemes but perhaps not eyebrows on 1/48 scale people lol just as well I won't have the skills anyway, right?
I bought this red airbrush. Came with a stuck trigger and a bad needle. So expect hit or miss with them. Now repaired it works great with a .2mm set. Parts are cheap and easily found. Best regards!
Yes, pretty much the case with most of the cheaper brushes you definitely get what you pay for 🤞🏻👍🏻
Please don't get me wrong. We are all forced to work on our airbrushes. It was fixed with a new needle and a little work. Now it works absolutely great. Would I recommend cloned airbrushes? Yes, anyone who has even minimal airbrushing experience can get clones working fantastic. Regardless of how much we spend, they all need constant attention. I have favorite ones, they range in price from $15 usd to $500 usd. But a $500 usd airbrush out of the box needs nothing but skill! Best wishes and regards sir!
I recently purchased this same Iwata airbrush. I have gone a number of the cheaper ones as well. The thing that never seems to get mentioned is the Iwata is a lot easier to clean. It is as if it has a special coating that keeps the paint from sticking to it. Definitely worth the extra money.
Thanks appreciate the comment 👊🏻
I think it is just because of the nice, chrome plating, that's about it, really
Very nice review.
I would never expect a $20 airbrush to perform at the level of a $200 airbrush.
That said for those on a tight budget, just starting out, or willing to polish the needles, oil the trigger, and make sure the I rings are not flattened or destroyed these should do well.
You make your living with this tool, so having the best available makes sense.
I think for Amy artist when you get to the point where you feel the cheep one is holding you back, you have saved up for a nice Iwata.
Yes agree, it was interesting to give them a go and it will be interesting to see how this cheap one lasts the distance, I think if you are unsure of whether airbrushing will be something that you would pursue then the cheap option is a great way to start 👍🏼
Airbrush Asylum it would be interesting. Here in the U.S. we have the master airbrush brand. I think if you shoot water based paint like createx / wicked / Auto colors they should last. They do sell needles and parts for the brand here, so that is a good thing.
I have a pachee siphon feed from the early 80's I am getting started with.
Psst or a nice Badger lol
thanks for video!
No probs thank you 🙏🏻
I have one of the budget or starter annodized ones. It did ok as a beginner brush but I upgraded to a much more expensive one. I am still rubbish. So can't blame the brush. Although the cheap one is still fine! Still works great and no issues. No flaking yet
That’s great to hear and glad you are still having fun airbrushing 👍🏼
Airbrush Asylum yes bud, I have used it on many projects, but trying to draw is another thing all together.
You need to buy those Asian pencils - they'll make you a much better artist ;)
As a modeler, the Iwata is a god-sent. The paint consistency is just so much better than a cheap airbrush. Still, one can only appreciate a good airbrush after using 2 or 3 bad ones.
Thanks for your comment 👍🏼
Agree Dude im a user of iwata esclip..its absolutly amazing
I've found that the primary issue with the cheaper tools is quality control. Sometimes you get a fantastic value. But sometimes you get a total POS that isn't even properly threaded
Fully agree. I bought one and it never turned on out the box. Probably a faulty switch or circuit board.
thanx 4 doin what u do.
No probs thank you
I know this video is old in internet terms, but thanks for the heads up. I'm a beginner at airbrush painting , but since my bday's coming up it's a good excuse to grab myself the Iwata Eclipse to replace my shitty single action siphon feed. Like my father always says, a good worker has good tools.
Love your voice..great vid
Lol...thanks mate hope all is going well with you 👍🏼
Cheap one worked like shit right from the first lines. Nice of you to be so diplomatic in reviewing it
I bought the Iwata NEO CN the other day and Hobby Lobby carries all replacement parts. I build model kits is all i airbrush. Airbrushing 1/24 and 1/25 scale kits is alot different from running a t-shirt shop. All ive gotta buy now is another air line for my compressor.
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Just bought one of thoes last weekend myself. Getting compressor this weekend so I can gwet started air brushing
Jeremy Evans - How has been holding up with painting your 1/24 scale models? I see that neo iwata at hobby lobby all the damn time and it just calls me lol.
Having used various cheap and "name" Iwata, H&S, Badger, and Paasche, Aztek airbrushes over the decades, the point of the video is well taken, especially for "non precise" work where the airbrush is not planned to last, or is basically doing the work of a spray can... IMO there are three main differences between name and cheap airbrushes
1) If fine line accuracy is needed, cheap units won't cut it,
2) replacement parts. They can be difficult/impossible to get for no name brushes, turning them into paperweights when a part goes south. We know we will be able to buy a new Iwata needle or nozzle for decades to come... with el cheapo brands, such a task will be a major challenge, as replacement parts are unlikely to be easily available.
3) Quality control on "name" airbrushes is universally higher than no name units. Getting a "good" one is definitely more a matter of rolling the dice than good QC from the factory
Yes , thank you appreciate the comment 👍🏼
I am an Iwata fan but any time I am experimenting with a chin knock off and I run across something useful, I order a spare and use it for parts.
You will rarely find single parts but these things are so cheap that ordering an extra for parts is a no brainer.
excellent video... thank you very much... :)
No probs thanks for the comment 👍🏻
the cheaper "noname" ahem (HUBEST) air brush would work good and in some cases damn good for most model kit paint jobs, the "fuzzy" lines would help ass to patterns and blending more.
I know the Iwata's are good and all, but that red finish is super sexy
Yes it is lol 👍🏼
Just subbed looks like an interesting channel
This was recommended to me because Im painting plastic (game controllers) would this work on plastic if, let's say I apply a adhesive promoter first? Im not looking for anything fancy, Im looking for just a solid color paintjob.
Nice review
Thanks glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼
Nice videos, I learned a lot. What do you think about these sets of airbrush and compressor for about 35,-€ (or the same in dollars)?
Ya on America Amazon the red one is available for $ 21.21, I bought two of them.
Yep, that’s correct you can also get just the airbrush for about $13 here is the affiliate link if anyone is interested amzn.to/2VIWdIK 👌🏻
it would help alot to polish that needle on the cheeper one those needles are rough try the polishing compound and see if it doesnt come out smoother
Yes great tip
Not sure if it’s mentioned but one big difference between the super cheap (below $70ish)and the semi cheap($70+) is the Teflon gaskets which resist solvents much better than any cheaper alternative.
Thing is about the cheap airbrush is what the internals are like how big is the feed hole in the bottom of the pot needle and parts quality. Getting parts can also be tough or impossible and yes you'll go through some needles. If you can afford a decent brush I'd go with that if not yet the cheaper ones. I personally like Badger their and it in and get it fixed policy and knowledge of their projects is very good. I see you picking at the needle with your finger nail easy to bend a tip doing that. I cut a small piece of cheap sponge damp with Windex hold out between two fingers in the of hand and clean the dried paint quick with it. Works great and has saved a shit ton in needles.
Great insight and tips thanks for sharing your comment 👌🏻
I saw that video. I like the way you use the sponge.. your "most recent newbie video" ... I'm not NEW now... but, I'm "young to airbrush" ... so.. I still take a gander at "newbie videos" ... I Really liked the photo frame practice board... very interesting..
@@influentialolive Yeah I bought a large picture frame with glass I throw in a paper with lines dots ect to try and follow. The glass is very easy to clean and start all over again. Also painting on the smooth glass surface makes you really control your flow very handy way to train up.
I have owned cheap and my current line of iwata and while cheap brushes will perform for the first little while but break down quite easy after a few uses, you get what you pay for
I constantly tell everyone that you don’t need to release such lessons! Practice drawing at once children's drawings! And immediately will be gained a great experience in a short time. Hello to you from Russia.
Drawing well with a simple pencil definitely helps in any kind of art
Thanks for the review, Archangel Gabriel.
No probs thanks for your comment and glad you enjoyed the vid 👌🏻
As far as these guns go, most people only benefit using them for shadowing. So even the cheaper ones for $20 will work fine
Yes definitely if you are not planning on using it for art or really intricate details then the cheaper option will work just fine 👍🏻
Hey. Great video for me as my kids bought me this very airbrush for Christmas, I'm a total newbie to airbrushing so would want to spend a fortune if I don't get on airbrushing. Do you know the maker and model so I can't try to locate parts for it.
Thanks for your comment and glad you enjoyed the video, the airbrush used in the video is similar to the following :
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Not sure if you will be able to get parts but you can contact the seller to see if they can help. 👌🏻
I have been using a red airbrush for some time now. His main problem is that he does not have a needle seal behind the paint container. With prolonged painting, this leads to the fact that the paint from the tank is blown to the trigger, dirtying the inside of the airbrush. And another problem with rubber seals, they are not resistant to aggressive solvents and chemicals.
I bought this airbrush on sale for about $ 10, but still I continue to do most of the work with more expensive, albeit also Chinese, airbrush for $ 20.
Thanks for your comment and your info re: the red airbrush. I agree, I think most of the Chinese brushes are basically a ‘lucky dip’ all in all the majority of the cheaper brushes are really only going to serve a basic purpose ie, adding basic shading, base colour and or backgrounds that said this may be enough for some people but I would recommend saving and spending the money on a name brand once you know that the airbrush is something that you will use long term. I am planning on doing an artwork with the red airbrush to show that it could still produce artwork 👍🏻😉
I have the awata trn1 for my millennium falcon build
Just ordered an Iwata HP-CS. Hopefully, it will be better than the Kkmoon airbrushes that I have. 🙏
Which one is advisable for painting a sunglass?
Can you do a video on cordless air brush compressors
I don’t have one at this stage that I could review, but happy to do a review if the supplier sends me one 👌🏻
Sure, you can try the cheap one from Amazon. I tried the $25 version and wasted my money. Valve wouldn't work right out of the box. Replace the valve? The only one I could find that would fit the body at a local shop (couldn't find one online) was $35... quality control is definitely crap with these low-enders and you have a very high chance of buying a paperweight.
Yes , that’s always a risk and I always recommend buying a quality brand if you can afford to do so, that said some people who may only use their airbrush once every now and then, for let’s say doing backgrounds or priming miniatures, then the cheap one is still a great way to give it a go to see if you are going to use it enough or like it and if so then keep that as a spare and grab a quality brush👍🏻
I have airbrush painted for over 20 years and bottom line if you want an airbrush that will last (durability) and perform well every time go with Iwata. I have used many of the others and if you want to go cheaper because you want to try it out then a cheap airbrush could be a fit. Cheap airbrushes also work fine if you rarely airbrush. With any airbrush though keep it clean and maintained or even the best ones will give you issues if you ignore them.
I admit that for the perfectionist and the person with money a branded airbrush like iawata is a good buy, but for those of us on very limited budgets cheaper airbrushes are our only way of having an airbrush to give us the ability to produce results that are for our own enjoyment, so my advice is buy an airbrush that you can afford without breaking the bank, and once you get more experience and decide you want a better result then upgrade, if you can afford to, but most importantly, look after your airbrush, no matter how much it cost, and it will last longer than most tutorial videos imply when they review cheaper brushes, and remember that just because it has a swanky name on it, it does not mean it’s no good, sometimes it’s the operator that is no good. The whole idea of the users craft/hobby etc is to enjoy the process and be happy with the end result, it’s your project, and the end result needs to please you, nobody else, unless you are doing commercial work then of course it has to please the person paying for it, otherwise just enjoy the process and the finished work.
Yes, well said i would rather someone buy a cheaper brush before investing large $ in something that they may only do once or twice. You can always upgrade later once you have had a chance to try the airbrush, that said you can’t totally compare the level of performance that a cheaper brush can handle so keep in mind that a better tooled branded brush will allow you to do so much more than a cheaper brush ever can 👍🏻😉
Airbrush Asylum, yeah 100% agree, I didn’t make that clear at all, my mistake. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴
I did a review of the red airbrush. Google Don's airbrush tips if you're curious. Mine wouldn't spray until I reworked it. But, now it sprays OK. You are right, it doesn't do lines as fine as the Eclipse even though it has a smaller nozzle. Quality of these is hit or miss.
Hi Don, thanks for your comment and I did check out your review , fantastic information and agree totally with everything that you mentioned, if you don’t mind I would like to link your review in the description of the video as I believe it would be very helpful to viewers.
PS : I would imagine these all vary from batch to batch as my packaging was recycled cardboard rather than the plain white box which I noticed when taking a look at the video review you linked to.
Cheers and keep up the good work 👍🏼
@@AirbrushAsylum Thanks for the comment on the review. If you would like to add a link, that would be great. I will add a link to your video on my page. The more information people have, the better.
No probs thank you and I will get that link on there as soon as possible 👍🏼
So what's a good starting airbrush for painting shoes?
Sounds like you’re recording this in an auditorium
Yes I know my apologies , it was recorded a few years ago in our factory with a directional mic, we now use lavaleir mics in a smaller studio so you will notice much better sound quality. Feel free to check out the updated version of this video for a better all round viewing experience 🤞🏻👍🏻 ruclips.net/video/FRuxKu_I27Y/видео.html
yes... this is as helpfull as comparing a beetle with or versus a ... porsche !
they both do the same thing ...but there is the quality factor...thus the PRICE ... no news here.
just remember an airbrush is a tool , the performance of a tool depends on the skills of the person using it.
Yes, good points 👊🏻
This was a really helpful and informative video. Sure you rambled a bit but I don’t mind wasting like 3 minutes lol thanks for this!
Lol😂 yep sorry about the rambling...I do get a little carried away but glad you find it helpful, all the best 👍🏻
So now, in 2020, I'm interested in how it has held up compared to the Iwata 2 years later.
It helps if you polish the needle and make sure it is clean. Airbrushes are not real complex and mostly the different price points are in quality controls at the factory. The detail work will be better with a well maintained airbrush whether it is a cheap or expensive one.
Have a look online for the 180k airbrush, yes it looks like it's a clone of the top of the line Iwata? See if it is any good. Also autosol metal polish on needles may solve some of the issues, do it carefully of course.
Thanks I will take a look 👍🏼
The difference about cheap airbrush vs Iwata is longevity and durability. Cheap Airbrush will falls apart easily and affected performance.
Which you always need buy a new one to have peak performance.
Very true, you do get a quality product from iwata which will stand the test of time 👍🏻
Hey! Great video.
I'm looking into airbrushing, mainly to add additional effects to my artwork.
I'm kinda confused about the compressors.
Are they a universal thing, where most airbrushes fit all compressors, or do you have to stick to the same brand?
Good night elski. After many years using different compressors, I achieved happiness by building one by myself. Using an old refrigerator compressor and an empty fire extinguisher. The only things I had to buy were the pressure regulator and the automatic pressure switch. What is the big difference? SILENCE !!!
The vast majority of airbrush compressors are that they make a lot of noise! In addition to that, the large majority also use a rubber membrane to generate air, with the passing of the minutes that membrane heats up and begins to cause condensed steam It turns into water and is spit for the paint job we are doing.That's why I recommend that you inform yourself in order to build (or have someone else do it for you) one like the one I did. You will never regret it.
@@fidinboca Okay guess I need to do a bit of research.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks for your comment I use and recommend iwata compressors check out this video showcasing the one we use in our classes - ruclips.net/video/YAfj2qjizKQ/видео.html that said, you don’t need a specific compressor for airbrushing just get the best one that you can afford. All the best 👍🏻😉
I wished you would have tested them both at 20 psi also. That is where the differences between the two should really begin to show capability wise
Hi Sir Good Evening, Could you please tell me i'm very beginner do i always need to mix acrylic with thinner or its just if you want to smooth the color? and what about enamel color can i use it directly or do i need to mix it with thinner?
let me know thank you
Thanks for your comment , you can run any paint through your airbrush providing it’s a ‘milky’ consistency. Brands like Trident and Createx can be used straight out of the bottle or thinned with their reducer to your liking, I always prefer to thin them but it’s up to the artist. In regards to enamel, I don’t use any but I would imagine you would need to reduce it using turpentine ? I always suggest doing a sample panel when experimenting with ratios and new paint products . Hope that helps 👍🏻
I would go with the iwata hp cs for sure. As with anything They're only as good as the person using them. I don't know if you mentioned it But the iwata comes with a 5 year warrenty also since iwata is a big brand name finding replacment parts is gonna be alot Easier too.
Yes, the Eclipse is such a great brush and not too expensive 👍🏼👍🏼
@@AirbrushAsylum Just picked up one on Amazon it came with the hose a bottle of cleaner, ultramarine blue paint I use Vallejo but still pretty cool and a small tube of superlube for 140.
To be fair I'm not close enough to see clearly but from what ive seen the more expensive brush didnt seem to perform x10 better.
I have both, got the cheap one from AliExpress for $11 and it paints better than my Eclipse, although that could be the fault of the user as well. (cleaning etc)
Hi. New in this great art. Does air brush is for clothing as well?
Thank you glad you enjoyed it and yes you can use the airbrush to paint on clothing you just need to use the appropriate paint 👍🏻
@airbrush asylum, I need your opinion, Donyoubthink I should invest in a more expensive brush or Chinese brush if all I’m going to do is pruning, base coating and rarely detail. I’m going to do these things a fair amount. Cheers and thanks from NSw
Great question...if you have the spare $ then invest in a better quality brush, if you want an eclipse and you are in NSW then feel free to hit me up and I will see what I can do price wise . airbrushasylum.com.au and send through via our contact form cheers 👍🏻
The final result of the piece is @ 85% the skill of the artist.
Buy cheap and practice, practice, practice...
Then, after you've decided airbrushing is for you, save up for a better model.
Im guessing the bottom of the cheap ones cup would be much harder to clean due to the shape. The coating may also fail very quickly :)
Yes, good point, it wasn’t that difficult to clean but definitely not as easy as the iwata...as for the coating we will see 🤞
Just seen this video. I'm a plastic modeller and have a number of cheap airbrushes, some of which have lasted a fair while with light maintenance. One thing I do before using any new cheap brush is rub the needle with a fine abrasive cloth or cream to remove any of the artifacts from the manufacturing process (there is a video on RUclips by Scale-A-Ton showing some prep steps to get them better). I accept this is an extra process that the branded brushes don't need but did you prepare the needle on your red brush before use or was it used straight from the box ? That might account for some of the variances of the paint flow.
Thanks for your comment and no I used the airbrush straight out of the box but I may do another video trialing this to see how different it performs, many thanks 👍🏼
Why do you use aerbrushes without neddle cap ? I saw this also in others videos..Do you risk damaging the tip ?
Yes you do, but it allows for easier cleaning of tip drying as well as allowing for finer detailing 👍🏼
I’ve heard you can Polish the needle tip on the cheap ones and improve performance even more
Yes I believe you can even though I have never done it myself 🤔👍🏻
Stuffing someone Polish inside the airbrush is just cruel... I would only go as far as a quick clean...
@@AirbrushAsylum - It can, but there's no guarantee. Polishing the needle is only half the job and the (concave) nozzle is more likely the problem, anyway. How are you going to polish it?
Here's a secret: Since I doubt you have any (valve) lapping compound lying around, use tooth paste. It's slower, but it might keep you from over-doing it and destroying the needle.
The best way to do it is to judiciously lap (polish) the needle and nozzle together.
I build military models fulltime and I airbrush at 20psi I spray mission models paint and mig products and AK paint. Should I spray at a higher air pressure. Higher pressure better
If you want quick coverage or your paint is too thick then turn the pressure up, for detailed work I overthink my paint and reduce the pressure to 15-20psi hope that helps 👍🏼👍🏼
I dunno. It seems like the red airbrush is less reliable. I bought eclipse and for doing the model work I do it's brilliant. I want to check out badger's Sotar 20/20, too.
Yes I had a sotar 20/20 years ago and it was great I am thinking I may need to get one again just for something different 😜
Did you tried using the same two airbrushes with some enamel or lacquer (using lacquer thinner)?. Otherwise is just a partial test. Main issue would be the inner seal... over the long run the cheaper brands gets affected by stronger solvents!