The BEST Gaming Mouse (Theoretically)
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ok let's say hypothetically this is a mouse
Idk man this hypothetically looks like a fish net
I see you everywhere
Theoretically if you combined enough matter, you could create this mouse
rainyyy
benjamin?
Theoretically I am now more afraid of spilling my drink on my desk.
I’m more afraid I might accidentally piss on it...
@@sheffy8291 Might want to get that checked on bud
I'm afraid of spilling some blood on it while I'm working in my basement, they should've included a protective glass over the openings or something
@@user-cn9fq3vb9u Yeah I was already thinking it wouldn't be too hard to make a small plastic see-through shell for under the honeycomb pattern
Weight.
"One thing humans aren't capable of is fully appreciate my ability to segway to our sponsor"
You are absolutely correct **violently spams right side of my screen**
*tap tap tap tap tap*
"segway" :D
I read this right before he said his sponsor lmao
@@Whoorms why do you read comments while you watch the video, before or after makes some sense, but DURING?
segue* (sorry)
"the human arm has a maximum accelration of 11.5g" osu players:are you sure
I laughed a lot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It likely looked at arm movements measured at the wrist (bending at the elbow). A wrist flick measured at the finger tip is likely a lot higher. Mouse sensors are sort of near the knuckles though, so maybe half that?
I'd be surprised if it were lower than 30g.
@@Idiomatick that makes no sense.
I still don't understand the unit used for measurement of speed here : 11G. Does it mean 11 * 9.8 m/s^2 as g is the standard for gravitational acceleration on earth?
@@toshal22 g's are used to illustrate the forces caused by sudden acceleration. an f1 car can produce 6g's while turning or braking (limited by the tires in sort of the same way). when measured in g's its to illustrate the change in velocity because thats what causes g force. so 11g's means the mosue accelerates so fast it causes a g force equivalent to that of 11x the gravitational force of earth
overclocking mice .... next part: "can we watercool this?" (as we all know, the answer is: yes!)
This, this was the comment! lol
Lol
And what about wireless watercooling?
@DrBushwhacker spaaaam
15+ years ago I'd followed a mod guide to adding a fan into your mouse, but it was for the hand. :P
Ahh yes, mouse overclocking, the most rewarding experience a gamer can get
hey linus
I overclocked my chair
I overclocked my mouse pad
I overclocked my clock
I overclocked my Power supply unit
Actually so happy this video exists, I just found this mouse and have looked at the site about 10x unsure
Whats the mouse name
@@Joe_Biden700 atompalm hydrogen. Still unclear on when it comes out but I’ve checked a few times. So I’m sure when it does he’ll have that video up. Similarly there’s the Roccat burst, or the model O
Ahh yes, a mouse that simulates a cheese grater to collect all of my glorious DNA.
all it needs is a biomass testing device that is light and small enough, so it can analyze your sweat for diseases and "tryhard-nes" while playing
This reminding me of the omen ads, transcend human with your ultimate gamer DNA and shit
Ah yes, glorious... Your DNA tests say (model) O
This mouse will be disgusting after a couple months of use. The Model O is also perforated but you can remove the shell to clean it.
@@Skrenja pressured air kinda blows away your point
The biggest oversight in all modern gaming mice is how they stand up to being thrown at the wall. It seems like they don't even test this - every time I do this I have to buy a new one... Wait a minute...
You don't need this to get better at tarkov, you're already too good.
Heey wassup veritas?
You're not funny mate
What the hell is tarkov? And why does this verified channel only have 43 likes
@@sykez1274 He is, you just have a stale sense of humour and can't appreciate anything. And stop with this negative energy, nobody cares.
at this detail level, the mousepad would have more impact on the performance lmao
I'd rather die than replace my waifu mouse pad.
@@GoTeamScotch sauce?
@@GoTeamScotch we need the sauce
It seems like the current bottleneck of mouse speeds is the monitor refresh rate. Hopefully super high hz monitors became affordable in the next few years
Overclocking mice has been a thing since the mid 2000's.
That last part of where he asks if Linus would buy it was pure gold 😂
Wouldn't it be better to set the mouse pull rate to 7920hz because it divides by 360hz evenly?
No
Theoretically, with just the right amount of cocaine, I can easily beat all eSports players.
And when you are all done you can clean your house at 4am. Win-win
If your at least a diamond on siege, yes in theory, cry’s in low plat
With just the right amount of LSD, you won't have to
3 grams
You don't even need cocaine, just a baseball bat.
Just saw the holes, I'm imagining all the dust in it... it sends shivers down my spine...
theoretically
**Body's aching all the time**
theoretically 2x
"Look at all my old skin in there!"
can of air fixes this problem
This would be hella overkill but I'd love to see you do a double blind test with a pro gamer and an 8khz mouse. Kinda like you did the Refresh rate for monitors
You can definitely feel it yourself... if the game engine allows for it
Really enjoyed this vid, genuinely feel like I know what to look for in a mouse now
“Fuck motion blur. Why does anyone use it?”
*cries in only getting 20FPS*
"Hey wanna play cod or something?"
"I can't play"
"why not?"
"I just can't play"
"well everyone else is playing"
"I JUST CAN'T PLAY!!!"
*leaves call and cries in integrated graphics*
@@holysmokes.7 You can play. In fact, I have played the entire MW trilogy on Intel HD graphics 😁😂
Which game ??
@@anuroopkm3181 probs talking about the newer cods
@@anuroopkm3181 what settings and fps also what version of integrated graphics
the mouse close up in 0:16 looks like a zoomed in insect that I see in my biology books
In mine too lol
I love how Linus manages to advertise his merch in every video in such ways we wouldn't even think about
Ah yes so subtle lol
speak for yourself
Honestly at times i appreciate linus's ability to smoothly transition into sponsorship highlights more then the piece of tech hes displaying.
Theoretically, I can foresee the segue to your sponsors.
yeah
I’m glad I read this before the sponsors 😂
segue not segway
@@adityaroy211 😃
@TECH STORE LK stop self promoting no one cares
Linus has made so many unexpected transitions that the moment he zoomed in his face and everything went quiet i *KNEW* it was a sponsor
I just love the way this guys tells the sponsor.
Every single video.
3:34 "Lightest properly featured mouse"
The Razer Salmosa was only 40g back in mid-2008. And yes, it did have a scroll wheel and fully reprogrammable buttons, as well as 1800 DPI, 1000hz polling rate and an accurate sensor, lol. It did lack side buttons, so I'll give you that one though ;)
razor sensors virtualise the sensor input and smooth it before applying the sensitivity settings in the gui. they denied this for decades selling better and better mice...all with the same flaw but blaming customers for latency issues. the latency is built into the sensor chip. i wont buy them again for myself. had a few, gone back to logitech.
5:08 "opening folders and closing them" *me when i accidentally open the _-wrong folder-_ at school with my teacher next to me...
That's why you get a Raspi 4B for 35 bucks. There are no wrong folders on your laptop if they ain't on your laptop. Pro strats, ladies and gentlemen.
@@fredwupkensoppel8949 well that's a nice alternative to LTSC in Hyper V
@@fredwupkensoppel8949 "what's on this pi? can I wipe it?" "why not? lemme see..."
@@ms-fk6eb I don't know about your family but mine would never even ask what's on it because they wouldn't recognize it as a "PC" even if I told them multiple times what it is.
@@fredwupkensoppel8949 I guess I just have a techie dad, don't even know how many pis we've got by now haha
So hypothetically, let's say that this mouse doesn't care about your feelings, would you still be at silver?
First
Let’s say, in reality, that Ben Shapiro hates facts.
@@cosmicjenny4508 lmao youre funny. hates facts but uses them constantly, yep., totally sound logic
@@bradhaines3142 Yeah, he doesn’t use facts truthfully, though.
He misrepresents facts, draws false conclusions etc
@@cosmicjenny4508 false conclusions? like reasonable logic? misrepresented? in what way? by stating them? you make no sense. i dont see any from the left citing sources
4:22 OMG I got the pun XD well done linus.
I’d love to see a competition where you had to use whatever mouse & keyboard was the to seller that year
Imagine how much dead skin is going to collect inside that mouse...
More than the weight of the mouse itself.
Designers: Let's put holes on top.
Gravity: Am I a joke to you ?
There's holes on the bottom as well.
Thank you
I had a Model O-
You'd be surprised, there is very little if any skin that got in the mouse or at least stayed there.
I don't have it anymore because a plastic bit broke off while I tried to paracord it. Not my first paracord, I just fucked up.
"You know what's not cheap, the hours of labour my writing staff puts in creating segues to our sponsers" has to be the best transition I've heard yet lol bravo
Even if I don't end up buying that particular mouse, I think it's cool that they push the boundaries and force the competing brands to improve. Kinda like Finalmouse did back in the day.
Dont worry no one will end up buying it 1 year later still nothing.
"back in the day" my guy it was a couple years ago
Overclocked calculator at 6:45 is a nice touch! Such a fun episode.
The nerdiest of flexes:
"Yeah, I don't want to brag or anything, but my mouse is overclocked to a stable 8.0 kHz"
2010: Haha, overclocked ram, what you gonna overclock next, a mice?
2020: ...
We have been overclocking mice before 2010 :) at least since 2005. You can even google it and find old school forums where PC gamers talk about it, when we played Quake, UT, etc :)
@@nikch1 "We?" What are you talking about?
@@kompst_tu "we" = anyone who's been using a computer and gaming in 2005 at least, and obviously old enough to overclock their mouse.
Wow you two are so ignorant. Ivanoff clearly knows and has been in the scene for a while unlike you two know it alls. There are RUclips videos on ppl who have OC mice to get higher polling rate - obviously these won’t be allowed in majors or through certain third party programs like FaceIt. But OC mice depends on the mouse make and model basically; some OC better than others. You can also use zowie’s mouse test website to test the polling rate, etc.
"a mice"
you have awesome tips for everything
The sensors on gaming mice these days have become so good that it's better to look for a shape that fits your hand and grip instead.
Theoretically I can win more using this mouse
Reality: Sigh
I rely on computer guesstimates to make me more accurate though! Now it will truly know my aim is just bad.
you can buy fancy gamer gear but not the skill to use it efficiently
Remember you need a usb 3.1 interface to properly run that mouse at 8000 hz, since that's when USB upped the maximum polling rate of the interface to 8000hz.
‘The hours of labour that my writing staff’ I have a feeling Alex was done with the math
Could you make a test comparing a 8000 Hz polling mouse to Ps/2 mouse, which ditches the polling queu altogether?
"Thats not a lot"
Everyone has missed that shot
Did u guys heard what linus said -H niggasaki
a
that's*
My wrist is so stupid they call it Verlisify
What tf are you doing here?
“Cows can’t game” that’s discrimination
agreed
Cows can game. At least in a more classical sense of that term: physical games in the real world.
I am pretty sure they could game on a computer when you give them adequate input and output devices.
ggzh a Argue With Everyone If cows could put their energy into gaming instead of farting and burping, we could stop global warming and we would have more pro esport players. It’s a win win situation
@@dango9462 stop blaming us for problems which you created, ive been farting and burping since my species started and it wasnt a problem back then.
@@SacredCow. it's not your fault cow :c
"Undoing all that work you put into lining up your sick flick-shot!" XD
5:05 That was the sickest folder opening ive ever seen !!!
And I have the same wireless LOgitech mouse for over 10 years, and I paid for it about 5 dollars
I’ve been using my MX Ergo for 3 years now
@An Equal even without playing shooters you may notice. I went from a Corsair scimitar elite to a Logitech g502 hero since they were on sale for like $30, and honestly at the start I fucking HATED the shape of the g502 as I kept clicking buttons accidentally compared to my Corsair. I only used it in League of legends and among us the first day I used it, but I could literally feel how much smoother the sensor was than on the Corsair. Went back to my Corsair mouse, and I just couldn’t use it anymore, even after only like 30 minutes. It just felt slow, and it made me get used to holding the G502 a different way so I could use that instead lol
@@UpbeatTempo Of course it felt slow, it's called having a much lower DPI on your corsair, every standard gaming mouse allows you to change the DPI, crank it up to max and you'll understand.
the day you change it for a newer one you will be actually very surprised, I'm used to keeping my mice for as long as I can as well, but this year I treated myself to an actual gaming mouse and it's outstanding how better it is to use, not only for gaming but for general web browsing and work as well
@@Skelath I think he's talking about latency lol
4:23 "omg, this is gonna take me a second"
i see what you did there linus
lol, I don't even think it was intentional
i dont get it
@@harrazmasri2805 the rate was 1hz, meaning the position of the cursor was getting refreshed exactly every one second. He moves the mouse and the cursor doesn't, because it will still take the cursor *a second* to move.
@@heisen1815 oh god i didnt know that was a pun haha
@@iwantsexseemyvideo4988 shut up bot
a lot of work for this vid, love it
September 2021 going into the holiday season and we still have nothing, ergh. Will definitely be adjusting my budget for this mouse, still looking forward to this.
8:30 i think i need more sleep. This scared me so much I jumped a little.
bruh
yep. U definitely need some sleep
lmao
I smiled when you recomended the G305 while i was scrolling using that exact mouse
Same 😂
Same
got it a while ago to use on the go so i wouldn't have to bring my g502 everywhere. ended up just using the 305 for everything because i liked it a ton more
I missed I only have g304
Corsair Ironclaw Wireless 50G'sssss :)
I've always thought about a mouse that has a sensor at the tip... so that all the fingertips will point at the sensor while holding the mouse... theoretically, it should give you more accuracy, like holding a pen kinda feel... also it should help to cover more distance for wrist flickers, compared to the mouses that have the sensors in the middle...
I have no idea if you are right or not in theory, but I'm pretty sure that switching to it would be HELLA weird if you've been using a regular mouse all your life :P
I really dig that 3D printed texture look
... until you see how gunky it would get after a few months. 🤢
5:28 0.875ms difference
"If your display is running 360 hz"
*Cries in 60 Hz*
That hertz
My GPU wishes it could cry at 60Hz 😐
Just download more refresh rate.🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@eclipsek0 what are you guys running? The original Athlon? Lol!
You can try overclocking! If it works it helps a lot.
"This episode is sponsored by logitech and their gaming mouse!"
*NEXT DAY*
"The BEST gaming mouse"
Theoretically*
The G Pro is a wireless beast
That advertisment segway was so good I had to drop a like as soon as he said it.
"Legally I can't say buying a T-shirt from LTTstore.com will make you a better gamer, but I also cant financially say that it can't"
"Maximum arm acceleration is 11.4 G's" me when my parents walk in on me watching a bitwit video
wait a minute
Chotto matte.....
bitwit?
yo that intro looks amazing whoever made it well done
That subtle inclusion of TROGDOR: THE BURNINATOR! in hoodie form
I really can't get behind these honeycomb design mice, seems like dust and dirt will get everywhere after a bit of use.
Ive had one for 6+ months and i can say that there are no dust or dirt issues
@@HuntingtonBeachBadBoy Ive had my Model O for 3+ months and have noticed no dust or dirt issues.
They all have an ip rating for water,dust and dirt so check if the mouse you want has it and you should be fine or just cover the cones with mouse grips
cause you haven't tried one lol
Have the model O- for about a year now and no dust build up. Where y'all playing games that you get that dirty?
Watching this made me miss the old style of LTT videos. I miss running random tests like long distance wifi, whole room water cooling, rain soaked laptop, etc
@DrBushwhacker bruh
@DrBushwhacker I'm not clicking random links on RUclips. Sorry😘
I was expecting for a sponsored mouse video and got some nice facts and calculations. Nice!!
This is the first time I like a video for its segue to a sponsor. That was smooth, Linus, too smooth.
"One thing humans definitely aren't capable of is fully appreciating my ability to segue to our sponsor."
Damn straight.
*presses right three times to skip the sponsor*
I wasn't expecting Hella science in this video, but I'm hyped to have watched this. It was very informative :)
That 3D printed texture actually looks really nice
You get a like for the testing, and you get a fav for pulling out the robot arm for extreme testing.
"F$%& motion blur" - okay you got me with that one, I laughed out loud!
Man, you really hate motion blur
Lots of people do including me. Im just so glad its an option that you can turn off in the settings.
@asdrubale bisanzio In competitive, fast paced multiplayer games I would absolutely agree -- turn that shit off. However, in slow placed, cinematic single-player games it has it's place.
I liked how MW19 had an option to only have motion blur on your weapon, something that is actually realistic as motion blur _does_ occur in real life with objects moving closely to your eyes.
Who doesn't hate it?
@asdrubale bisanzio Agree to disagree then, however It absolutely does occur in real life. Wave your hand in front of your face fast... tada, motion blur. Motion blur is also critical in film, atleast in anything drama related. Movies shot at high frame rates with fast shutter speeds just look weird af.
@@Skrenja No that’s just your hand not being in focus, not motion blur
"After studying epic gamer moments"
Quote of the year
Linus' sponsorship segues are truly an underrated art
There is no purchase page for it lmao where do i buy it it says shipping in jan feb or march but idk
Me with my Lenovo Trackpoint on my laptop: "Ah yes, this seems like an ok mouse"
Bruh u took my profile pic
5:34 I love the TROGDOR hoodie. That is so awesome
TROGDOOOOOOOOOORRR! XD
To test the click latency could you sync a mic listening for the click sound to your high speed camera watching for the click to register onscreen?
Will a Razer Viper 8000hz polling rate mouse work with 165hz monitor? Or do these extremely high polling rate mice only work with 240hz or 360hz refresh rate?
The mice which I'm looking at is Razer Viper 8000hz which is 71g. While there is another lighter weighted mouse called Razer Viper Mini which has 1000hz polling rate and weighs only 61g. Which one would be the better option for competitive FPS gaming considering that fact that my monitor is only 165hz?
I like my Cooler Master MM710 👌
11*
@@fake7085 There is also a 710
I like my g603
@@fake7085 there's an mm710 as well. It's the same just w/o RGB lights. I prefer mm710 as it was significantly cheaper and weighs less. 👍
@@EscapePlanSkateboarding it’s like 10 bucks cheaper but ok. They are solid though for 40 and 50 bucks
that Trogdor hoodie makes me so nostalgic.
Everybody to the limit! Come on fwhqgads, come on fwhqdads...
Everybody to the limit! The Cheat is to the limit! Everybody come on Fhqwhgads.
I like how Linus mentioned the G305 mouse at the end to kill any chance of people saying this is a sponsored video lol.
Even seeing Linus handle those Mitutoyos made me wince. Thankfully they weren't in his hands for long.
0:13 That probe lens action.
some of Linus's Segway transitions are just too good i can't bring myself to skip forward
ფუნჯი
*Me a guy with trypophobia: Laughs nervously
wtf XD
Ikr
shut up
@@gram. ?
11:30 The most useful bit of the video Thanks
"After analysing epic gamer moments"
I remember back when mice used PS/2 connector and the huge difference of using a utility to raise the polling rate to 200 Hz from whatever the standard was
I remember sucking in games for a while after going from just normal Mouse whatever it was before we even knew what polling rates were.
I had excellent muscle memory on that standard normal microsoft mouse back then.
But you can get used to anything. as long as it's stable and consistent.
I completely agree with the Motion Blur bashing. Can you do a video exploring why it is even an option?
I like how alex still has the waterblock on his ti 82
Now the real questions: How much will it cost and will it have international shipping?
Uff.. imagine dropping your coffee in one of these bad boys
aaaaugh😩
Easy cleaning!!!
@@SpltPersonaltyOF Also easy dying, lol.
mouse smoothing and mouse acceleration are they the same?
7:05 I like your funny words magic man
With AMD board partners releasing unofficial bios updates to enable S.A.M on older am4 based cpus it would be a cool if you guys did a video on the performance increase this does or does not have and what it means for the older architecture chips from AMD. Does it really make a difference to performance?
5:38 I'm gonna need that hoodie
My real question is how are the main buttons? I currently am using a rat 7 which has a super light main mouse click, which when I compared to any other mouse that I have felt they all fell behind. So how light is the actually clicking part which is necessary for spam clicking weapons.
wow, that article by Nagasaki really...
blew me away.
Linus: "And you ultimately missing that sick head shot"
Or in Linus' case "And you ultimately missing that sick foot shot"
1:22 thanks for reminding me Linus, been playing with it turned on on my new PC for half a year lmao
same bruh , had to retrain my aim but after a few days i got used to it and its a lot easier
0:34 im so fascinated by the segway that i didn't even realize there was a sponsor
nice to know that my 3000 poll rate mouse is helping me alot more then I thought!