I was sad that you stopped making pathfinder builds. but you came back with some really good ones. I already tried both builds and they were very good in unfair. Can't wait to do a full run with this build
@@karlebykok9177Working on it with my Demon Enchantress on Core difficulty. Having a hard time, but also having a blast! Seriously wish I could just get rid of Crusade mode, but I don’t like playing with mods.
Fair you don’t like it but I am very glad for the crusade mode. It is good immersion for the story and a nice relaxing mode between dungeon crawling, plus I like might and magic games so like the light version of it. I do wish it was fleshed out a bit better as it is far from perfect.
@@SirCanuckelheadmaybe I’ll start looking at it as its own thing as opposed to an interruption to my gameplay. Might make it more palatable. Always feel like I cannot skip days and just play the crusade or else some bad thing will happen with my campaign.
A powerful build for an evil witch, there is alternative if you want to play a good witch. Go for Azata as a blaster caster witch, protected by even more companions by having Aivu as an extra. Overall this witch archetype is really strong.
I am thinking of something like this but then taking the late game Dragon switch. It could give me an excuse to keep doing crimes as a Gold Dragon, as I think there is a Corrupted Dragon ending. You'd still have your Hag Gramma whispering dark temptations into your ear and that fool Hal would keep falling for her lies saying you are just a misguided child XD
biggest frustrations with this build are a) without dipping into sorceror, you're literally useless against undead - not a single one of your spells does anything substantial to them, and there are a LOT of undead encounters early game b) all the spells you take are aoe reflex & fortitude checks, so without taking selective spells, you're going to be doing more damage to your frontliners than the enemy early on. you're much better off taking selective metamagic feats. c) not taking iceplant early on means your AC is basically nothing early on, meaning your character will be getting one-shotted in most encounters that follow up on a cutscene (as, for whatever reason, Owlcat decided that the main character gets targeted by all mobs in the first round of combat if the combat follows a cutscene)
How does the Hag pet interact with the items that give spells - like Ring of Boreal might? Since she casts at will, does the game view her as a "spontaneous caster" and add the spells to her "list"?
Man, you've got me pining for WOTR again. And I haven't done lich yet! Question (for anyone basically): I always struggled with finding a good party for a lich run (especially tank wise). Who would you recommend for this build?
I make a full party of dhampir mercenaries in addition to making the MC a dhampir. It allows you to use the dance macabre channel negative energy to heal your whole party and damage enemies from very early on. Also a court poet, full caster party is really fun with lich because the lich gives the whole party bonuss caster level, not good for unfair but super fun on normal or core difficulty.
Court poet with one level in Cha monk could be a very good tank. You can make him destruction shout specialist - he will stun everyone for ages screaming, and he'll have a good AC too.
Lich is one of my favorites, I really love Necromancy! Merged Liches have an easy time with party members, because you have the Blessing of Unlife spell at level 7 that grants all Undead immunities & Affinity to even living party members like Daeran, Seelah and so on. I frankly just keep most of my party as living (but with that buff) and only bother with Kestoglyr and Ciar as far as the actual undead companions.
Could a Trickster Shadow Caster work? I'm been thinking of trying to run illusion based trickster wizard for long time (smoothing it out with SpellbookMerge mod) and it seems the new archetype could work well with Trickster.
It certainly can! But Trickster is somewhat lacking for spellcasters outside of extra Ray Damage through better Crits, or more casts through Completely Normal Metamagic.
@@cRPGBroI found an interesting combo, sadly, it only exist due to the nature of the mod. If you combine the Completely Normal Metamagic, which is useful by itself, with Persistent Metamagic you can get Weird to fill out your empty 10th level slot along with becoming persistent. (Unmodded same effect could be achieved by investing a mythic ability to favorite Persistant Metamagic) Also using the world mythic trick will ensure your shadows will never turn against you at a certain level. All in all, while it was interesting to test out, it's most likely better in general to use either Demon or Lich mythic path.
I would take protective luck early on instead of left to Camellia on Higher difficulty as shaman chant won't extend it anymore. Stinking Cloud is great on act1-act2. but at early act3 it DC is kinda too low on unfair
Is it viable if i mix this build with the fey lord with azata build? Maybe 19 levels on witch and 1 on crossblooded for fey + undead bloodline? This way you can get 2 companions, a lot of CC and good hexes
While I do love theese Builds, there is a limit on how many I can play. Any chance for updates on companion builds? (otherise, I might just toybox respect Ember into this one since archivements are still bugged anyway ^^)
@@Haiphong778 had trouble for a shile with all the "on Core or Higher" to pop up. Somethimes they work and sometimes they don't even work for Mythic paths...idk it's wierd
ye me started a new playthrough as a witch lich before the DLC. AT least a winter witch lich is fun aswell would elf btw not be the best cause elven magic?
I absolutely love your build vidoes. I do have to ask, have you ever considered using the Toybox mod to create gestalt builds? I would love to see how you create some interesting builds. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing your take on the other, newly released archetypes!
Now if only Witch of the Veil wasn't way too fun to play. Like, just constantly being invisible is a blast in early game where nobody has truesight. I guess I could always just play Veil early, and then respec into Hag.
You can always skip Lich Mythic 9 which prevents the final transformation with the skeleton visual effect. In my case I don't have it because of a bug that was just fixed that prevented the final transformation look on a respec.
thanks a lot for your build, even if I didn't really understand why the 1 level in geomancer. But something I find harder to build in this game is team composition, what would you advise for a team with this build as MC, if you can respect totally all the undead companions, and be a bit different than the usual team comp you advice in your video about companions (which help me a lot) I was thinking about something like : Staunton respect as a shieldbearer ( because I love this class and it's a good tank) Kestoglyr respected as one of the magus Ciar as a court poet (buff and sonic blaster nice for cc) Delamere caster for blast and undead summon And adding an oracle mercenary for buff heal and undead summons. Not sure if it's a good idea or will even work, i only play in core. and I agree with some of the comment saying they are sad you do less Pathfinder content, while I understand, your guides and builds ... is what make me love this game.
Level 1 Geomancer is for its special ability that adds +1d6 x Spell Level extra damage on casts! This way you can have around +18d6 (with a level 9 spell and Quicken Spell for 2 spells/round) added on top of your spell damage. For a Lich Party, remember you can still use living allies just fine (and I find most of them to be better besides Ciar & Kestoglyr), after all, merged Liches have a lot of slots for the Blessing of Unlife spell that makes living allies count as undead for most purposes (but not the Lich stat buff).
@@cRPGBro Thanks for the explanation about geomancer. As for the team composition, I know I can still use living allies, but the living is such a assle. More seriously I just trying to do something different, and after many runs the companions start to be really annoying.
Legend isn't the best for spellcasters, it's a lot better suited for Martial characters. But I think Cleric & Mystic Theurge can be great fun though for multiple Spellbooks. Or you can go for more melee power with something like Mutation Warrior & Demonslayer, as you already have the best spells anyways. Skald & Court Poet would also highly increase your spell DC, same for allies and even the Hag's.
The problem with kinetic knight is the trade off of metamagic for armor feats which is really bad and a base kineticist is better. Azata doesn't have much for kinetic knight aside from incredible might and share teamwork feats.
Well. Kinetic Knight does trade in a lot for their features, but considering the new mythic armor feats, specifically the medium armor one that lets you put your CON into your AC, it might be worth checking out.
My main issue with Kinetic Knight is that sadly it's a big downgrade over normal Kineticist especially for damage, and normal Kineticist can also get Kinetic Blade and so on.
I played a Hag bound witch my first run and really enjoyed it . I never made it past chapter 3 because I enjoy playing different builds too much and Bg 3 came out where im doing the exact same thing .
That’s ashame the best part of the game is chapter 4 the demon city absolutely amazing. You need to go further bro and check it out you won’t disappoint. But yes I think we all suffer from restarts and it drives me insane lol
Lich has many buffs that stack and provide Temporary HP, with more powerful effects the higher your damage, such as Feast of Blood, Vampiric Touch & Siphon Life.
@@cRPGBro Ah right, temp hp doesn't stack ever in the tabletop, exactly for this nonsense reason. So it's just stupid devs playing fast n loose with the rules. Still thx for the answer.
Trickster could give you a wizard spell book, 4 cleric domains, and the strongest attack spells in the game. (rain of halberds and ray of halberds trigger sneak attack) Or Aeon if you are modding out alignment requirements. Passively increase spell and hex Dc of your whole party by 4 (hag included), with one gaze, while making it impossible for the enemy to roll above a 15, and your party under an 8 with another. Or caster level+4 to the whole party so everyone gets 24 hour 1 /level spells with another.
@@cRPGBro does that makes sense to go into swarm path later with this build? Like the one mentioned in one of your videos (fallen angel swarm). Very curious to tryu that!
I was sad that you stopped making pathfinder builds. but you came back with some really good ones. I already tried both builds and they were very good in unfair. Can't wait to do a full run with this build
That's really nice to hear.
Corruptor Wizard coming soon!
@@cRPGBro can u one day make a Weretouched demon build
Keep them coming, man! Love these builds.
Doesn’t look like I’ll be finishing my first playthough anytime soon …
😉
kekw, just finish it man =)))
@@karlebykok9177Working on it with my Demon Enchantress on Core difficulty. Having a hard time, but also having a blast!
Seriously wish I could just get rid of Crusade mode, but I don’t like playing with mods.
Fair you don’t like it but I am very glad for the crusade mode. It is good immersion for the story and a nice relaxing mode between dungeon crawling, plus I like might and magic games so like the light version of it. I do wish it was fleshed out a bit better as it is far from perfect.
@@SirCanuckelheadmaybe I’ll start looking at it as its own thing as opposed to an interruption to my gameplay. Might make it more palatable. Always feel like I cannot skip days and just play the crusade or else some bad thing will happen with my campaign.
That's the joy of cRPGs 😁
Please do a Prophet of Pestilence build
The posted content from this expansion seems very light, so I really do appreciate you making builds again. Please keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
When your gran-gran hears someone say something rude to you:
Beware the Evil Granny!
A powerful build for an evil witch, there is alternative if you want to play a good witch. Go for Azata as a blaster caster witch, protected by even more companions by having Aivu as an extra. Overall this witch archetype is really strong.
Azata can be great fun for casters indeed!
You named the hag auntie ethel. So awesome man
She is my favorite NPC in the game and I find her quest to be the most interesting as well!
7 months too late. Ballocks!
I am thinking of something like this but then taking the late game Dragon switch. It could give me an excuse to keep doing crimes as a Gold Dragon, as I think there is a Corrupted Dragon ending.
You'd still have your Hag Gramma whispering dark temptations into your ear and that fool Hal would keep falling for her lies saying you are just a misguided child XD
Would love a rapid fire video of what new archetypes work great for companions.
Damn, I had hoped for a Reanimator but this is nice too!
biggest frustrations with this build are
a) without dipping into sorceror, you're literally useless against undead - not a single one of your spells does anything substantial to them, and there are a LOT of undead encounters early game
b) all the spells you take are aoe reflex & fortitude checks, so without taking selective spells, you're going to be doing more damage to your frontliners than the enemy early on. you're much better off taking selective metamagic feats.
c) not taking iceplant early on means your AC is basically nothing early on, meaning your character will be getting one-shotted in most encounters that follow up on a cutscene (as, for whatever reason, Owlcat decided that the main character gets targeted by all mobs in the first round of combat if the combat follows a cutscene)
How does the Hag pet interact with the items that give spells - like Ring of Boreal might? Since she casts at will, does the game view her as a "spontaneous caster" and add the spells to her "list"?
I was waiting for the Prophet of Pestilence build but this will do..
Same
Prophet will come!
Man, you've got me pining for WOTR again. And I haven't done lich yet!
Question (for anyone basically): I always struggled with finding a good party for a lich run (especially tank wise). Who would you recommend for this build?
I make a full party of dhampir mercenaries in addition to making the MC a dhampir. It allows you to use the dance macabre channel negative energy to heal your whole party and damage enemies from very early on. Also a court poet, full caster party is really fun with lich because the lich gives the whole party bonuss caster level, not good for unfair but super fun on normal or core difficulty.
Court poet with one level in Cha monk could be a very good tank. You can make him destruction shout specialist - he will stun everyone for ages screaming, and he'll have a good AC too.
Lich is one of my favorites, I really love Necromancy!
Merged Liches have an easy time with party members, because you have the Blessing of Unlife spell at level 7 that grants all Undead immunities & Affinity to even living party members like Daeran, Seelah and so on.
I frankly just keep most of my party as living (but with that buff) and only bother with Kestoglyr and Ciar as far as the actual undead companions.
Corle challenge for you: create party thay can beat chained darkness on unfair. I dare you.
Hag's attack animation is so funny
Bonk bonk bonk till demon die
Especially when she has Godzilla size through Legendary Proportions!
auntie ethel lost some weight
But is even deadlier!
Are you going to do a shadow caster build? I would love to see it!
Could a Trickster Shadow Caster work? I'm been thinking of trying to run illusion based trickster wizard for long time (smoothing it out with SpellbookMerge mod) and it seems the new archetype could work well with Trickster.
It certainly can!
But Trickster is somewhat lacking for spellcasters outside of extra Ray Damage through better Crits, or more casts through Completely Normal Metamagic.
@@cRPGBroI found an interesting combo, sadly, it only exist due to the nature of the mod. If you combine the Completely Normal Metamagic, which is useful by itself, with Persistent Metamagic you can get Weird to fill out your empty 10th level slot along with becoming persistent. (Unmodded same effect could be achieved by investing a mythic ability to favorite Persistant Metamagic)
Also using the world mythic trick will ensure your shadows will never turn against you at a certain level.
All in all, while it was interesting to test out, it's most likely better in general to use either Demon or Lich mythic path.
Auntie Ethel hahahaha.
Bonking demons for Dearie!
I would take protective luck early on instead of left to Camellia on Higher difficulty as shaman chant won't extend it anymore.
Stinking Cloud is great on act1-act2. but at early act3 it DC is kinda too low on unfair
nice, always enjoy your WOTR Builds.
Thanks you!
Is it viable if i mix this build with the fey lord with azata build? Maybe 19 levels on witch and 1 on crossblooded for fey + undead bloodline? This way you can get 2 companions, a lot of CC and good hexes
How did your kept your regular appearance in Lich Mythic Path ? Haven't you done the transformation ?
While I do love theese Builds, there is a limit on how many I can play. Any chance for updates on companion builds? (otherise, I might just toybox respect Ember into this one since archivements are still bugged anyway ^^)
Are they? I received The Flame just a day or two ago.
@@Haiphong778 had trouble for a shile with all the "on Core or Higher" to pop up. Somethimes they work and sometimes they don't even work for Mythic paths...idk it's wierd
@@WalterWhite-jz7ct ahh, that makes sense. I had missed a couple of those too, now that you mention it.
I'll see what I can do!
btw, phantasmal killer has the fear descriptor, so it also gets buffed by the second level ability
ye me started a new playthrough as a witch lich before the DLC.
AT least a winter witch lich is fun aswell
would elf btw not be the best cause elven magic?
I absolutely love your build vidoes. I do have to ask, have you ever considered using the Toybox mod to create gestalt builds? I would love to see how you create some interesting builds. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing your take on the other, newly released archetypes!
Would this be good instead of Bard Thundercaller Companion?
Awesome build. Can't wait for the Winter Child build whenever it comes. Will probably be Angel, I imagine lol.
anyone know why bubble buffs sometimes breaks and goes blank?
Hi! Question, will you update your companions builds? Love your content
How's the new Staunton stats and base build look by the way?
Now if only Witch of the Veil wasn't way too fun to play. Like, just constantly being invisible is a blast in early game where nobody has truesight.
I guess I could always just play Veil early, and then respec into Hag.
Witch of the Veil can be really cheesy indeed 😁
Some different question. Main character did not change to skeleton, is there a way to do it, and not be skeleton?
You can always skip Lich Mythic 9 which prevents the final transformation with the skeleton visual effect.
In my case I don't have it because of a bug that was just fixed that prevented the final transformation look on a respec.
Another great build, thanks ! Just started a run with lt, curious to see what they did with Staunton
this new archetype isnt included in the base game and I need to buy lord of nothing dlc isnt it ?
Yes, you need the Lord of Nothing DLC for the new Archetypes.
thanks a lot for your build, even if I didn't really understand why the 1 level in geomancer.
But something I find harder to build in this game is team composition, what would you advise for a team with this build as MC, if you can respect totally all the undead companions, and be a bit different than the usual team comp you advice in your video about companions (which help me a lot)
I was thinking about something like :
Staunton respect as a shieldbearer ( because I love this class and it's a good tank)
Kestoglyr respected as one of the magus
Ciar as a court poet (buff and sonic blaster nice for cc)
Delamere caster for blast and undead summon
And adding an oracle mercenary for buff heal and undead summons.
Not sure if it's a good idea or will even work, i only play in core. and I agree with some of the comment saying they are sad you do less Pathfinder content, while I understand, your guides and builds ... is what make me love this game.
Level 1 Geomancer is for its special ability that adds +1d6 x Spell Level extra damage on casts!
This way you can have around +18d6 (with a level 9 spell and Quicken Spell for 2 spells/round) added on top of your spell damage.
For a Lich Party, remember you can still use living allies just fine (and I find most of them to be better besides Ciar & Kestoglyr), after all, merged Liches have a lot of slots for the Blessing of Unlife spell that makes living allies count as undead for most purposes (but not the Lich stat buff).
@@cRPGBro Thanks for the explanation about geomancer.
As for the team composition, I know I can still use living allies, but the living is such a assle. More seriously I just trying to do something different, and after many runs the companions start to be really annoying.
If I decided too go legend with this build what other class would work well with it?
Legend isn't the best for spellcasters, it's a lot better suited for Martial characters.
But I think Cleric & Mystic Theurge can be great fun though for multiple Spellbooks.
Or you can go for more melee power with something like Mutation Warrior & Demonslayer, as you already have the best spells anyways.
Skald & Court Poet would also highly increase your spell DC, same for allies and even the Hag's.
I would appreciate it if you could do a Kinetic Knight build for any mythic path. I am curious if it can work with Azata.
The problem with kinetic knight is the trade off of metamagic for armor feats which is really bad and a base kineticist is better. Azata doesn't have much for kinetic knight aside from incredible might and share teamwork feats.
Well. Kinetic Knight does trade in a lot for their features, but considering the new mythic armor feats, specifically the medium armor one that lets you put your CON into your AC, it might be worth checking out.
My main issue with Kinetic Knight is that sadly it's a big downgrade over normal Kineticist especially for damage, and normal Kineticist can also get Kinetic Blade and so on.
First to like
Mythic Iniative!
I played a Hag bound witch my first run and really enjoyed it . I never made it past chapter 3 because I enjoy playing different builds too much and Bg 3 came out where im doing the exact same thing .
That’s ashame the best part of the game is chapter 4 the demon city absolutely amazing. You need to go further bro and check it out you won’t disappoint. But yes I think we all suffer from restarts and it drives me insane lol
How to do get so much hp? the +1k?
What is this?
Lich has many buffs that stack and provide Temporary HP, with more powerful effects the higher your damage, such as Feast of Blood, Vampiric Touch & Siphon Life.
@@cRPGBro Ah right, temp hp doesn't stack ever in the tabletop, exactly for this nonsense reason.
So it's just stupid devs playing fast n loose with the rules.
Still thx for the answer.
I love granny 🙂
Same!
Can you do a heavy armor kineticist?
I think medium armor kineticist is better with the mythic feat that adds con to your ac
True
Forgot about that
This game only on pc?
Nope, it should be on consoles as well.
@@cRPGBro gonna have to check it out then
Finally ❤❤❤
Have fun!
What other Mythic would go well with this?
maybe azata
Trickster could give you a wizard spell book, 4 cleric domains, and the strongest attack spells in the game. (rain of halberds and ray of halberds trigger sneak attack)
Or Aeon if you are modding out alignment requirements. Passively increase spell and hex Dc of your whole party by 4 (hag included), with one gaze, while making it impossible for the enemy to roll above a 15, and your party under an 8 with another. Or caster level+4 to the whole party so everyone gets 24 hour 1 /level spells with another.
I think i will go demon just finished a lich playthrough
Demon & Azata can work!
@@cRPGBro does that makes sense to go into swarm path later with this build? Like the one mentioned in one of your videos (fallen angel swarm). Very curious to tryu that!
Nice
Thanks