So happy to see you doing Pathfinder content again, man. Been a long-time lurker. BG3 is pretty, but Pathfinder is gritty. And just so much fun to play!
@@ldeschamps6149I really enjoyed BG3. Beautiful looking and lots of fun. But after a while stealing everything trivialized gearing up and provisioning. Did three play throughs before putting it down. I just accept them as being different games that fulfill different needs.
@@ldeschamps6149 Which is somewhat remedied by the most interesting Itemization of almost any rpg I've seen, sure you have your "cast ice knife once a day" and +1 swords but then you get to the actual unique items that have mechanics never before seen in 5e combined with the Illithid powers and how those things interact with existing class mechanics and you gain an endless amount of ways to create builds wholly unique to BG3 that are immensely fun to play I agree that 5E is indeed very limiting by TTrpg standards but I cannot subscribe to the idea that BG3 suffers from the same build limitations
After finnishing a few play throughs on BG3 and the honour mode completion, I came back to Pathfinder WotR to then realize how broad it's possibilities are. Whitch I couldn't even digeste at first touch. The game has such a vast permutation of classes, arquetypes and role play routes, I could only dimension this behemoth after experimenting the giant BG3. Maybe pathfinder won't get the same recognition due to the visuals, but both are masterpieces unmatched in CPRG genre.
I think Toetured Cruader is not meant to replace Seelah or another Paladin, but work for those MC that want to go for a Paladin MC and STILL use Seelah, because it synergizes very well specially at level 11. Final Judgment + Mark Of Justice melts bosses
You overlook the silliness of Flesheater in that you get multiple size increases. With an exotic Wide-Crit-range weapon and cleave/crit focus lets you go full blender at a MUCH higher rate. Especially when you are bigger than a Giant playing overwatch over the squishies.
Hey, great video, i see some feature i've overlook during my reading ( or not totaly understand the feature like the geomancy-thing, and i'm gonna thing about dip some caster for the curse on spell ) I don't know if you have seen this, but, they added the " ice blood " feature from the winter child as a requirement for the prestige Winter Witch.
Will you be doing any updated builds or new archetype builds? I am starved for your PF content. (I love BG3 but the builds don't stretch the same itch.)
honestly I really don't care about that cause the horse is bugged(yeah you still end up with weird mount bug for the horse) and it's pathfinding is straight up brain dead.
Are you going to show the new special boss fight from the DLC LoN? I think you could probably get decent views for doing guides about the specific super bosses.
So it is true if I buy the dlc I can use the extra classes in the normal main story? I think that what you said. I just want to make sure before I buy the DLC that on sale. ❤
@@cRPGBro Thank you, for responding. I'm excited to dive into the game. Currently, I'm playing Pathfinder Kingmaker and just reached Act 3. I've already purchased Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous for PS5. I noticed Season 1 was on sale, so I'm grabbing that now. I still have some time before I finish Kingmaker, so hopefully, I can get Season 2 for Wrath soon as well. ❤️ Oh forgot to ask does Season 2 get Archetypes too?
Can you please tell me, I wanted to do the usual. to follow the mythical path of the devil through azatha. I listened to the counsellor, the alignment changed to lawfully evil, but at some point my alignment stopped at the true neutral and did not change, no matter what decisions I made. Is this a bug or because I play on a character created before the patch? And how do I become lawfully evil now?
The spells mitigate comcealment but they arent quite as good as the feats. For starters, the spells dont work on Areelus Concealment, but the Blind Fight Feats do
What would you say is the ideal stat load out for prophet of pest they are a wisdom caster, with the need for int to cast and have bonuses to charisma through their plague while also needing to be on the front line to help spread it? I have been having a hard time understanding what the ideal weapon and stat load out for them should be.
WIS would be ideal, as that directly increases your Plague of Abaddon DC, and I imagine if you want to play Prophet of Pestilence, you kinda want to spam its most unique feature. For example, I was able to get around 65-66 with Demon and maxxed WIS.
I'm so disappointed in the Winter Child. I was looking forward to a cool druid class, but the Blizzard elemental is SOOO weak and all of the other class features are bad.
A bit weird to cover Tortured Crusader and not talk about Unbroken Paragon, extra full BAB attack every turn that stack whit haste and your smite even can stun.
I actually had recorded a section about it, but sadly forgot to include it during editing. You are correct in that it's probably one of the most loaded Capstone abilities!
@@michaelgrabner8977 I assume it would be plus 60 in total. It does restrict your mythic path choices significantly, however, and there is a lot to be said for tricksters getting many more and harder crits (which multiplies seelah's mark of justice) or an azata ability resets allowing for more liberal use of mark of justice, to give just a few examples. Something like a trickster skald or demonslayer will get quite a lot more mileage out of Seelah's mark of justice overall.
@@notalefty999 I´m aware of that..I was just pointing out the new synergy between those 2 spells in particular which doubles the smite for the Tortured Crusader and which isn´t the case with the other Paladin archetypes.
thats what I thought... A tortured paladin of Iomedae is great for going Legend. You can maintain Seelah as your faith buddy while still doing your own thing, even if you share the same class... Also, being a Iomedae follower seems torturing enough so it also fits thematically
I really hope you do a Prophet of Pestilence Fallen Angel Swarm build. It just sounds very thematic and powerful as isn't Shaman a class that can merge spellbook?
Shame the DC of the plague is low. Lvl 12 and was 22...demons etc no trouble saving. There is a higher lvl perk making them reroll... Unless you can raise the DC. Seems like a Hex which cant seem to increase...
Man that new Hag Witch class looks so cool. A full on Hag companion is amazing imo. It burns me so much that it's in the same Class tree as Hagbound, which doesn't seem to have gotten even a slight touch up... With all that's been added here, it's hard to believe they couldn't give even a crumb to the original.
Yeah, it's kinda offers more when you consider the whole "Hag" aspect of it, but I guess one is about "becoming" a Hag, the other about the Hag companion.
@@cRPGBro I got the game just recently and get overhelmed by complexcity of the game mechanics so i started to search for build guides so i started build new char crossbloded acording to your build guide, than i realized that i cant choose another bloodlines because of the new patch. Than i find that there is alternative in geomancer class and guess what there is no more geomancer in game, and no build guides that are recent more than 1 year old :( are u planning to do more buildguides that fit to 2024?
While Disarm is not as good as Trip its still pretty good for one reason: not only does it reduce damage but most enemies who wield weapons do not, in fact, have the improved unarmed strike feat, so they trigger attacks of oportunity whenever they attack
I also noticed it can trigger the tasty Kalavakus looping attacks even on some enemies immune to it like the Apocalypse Locusts, as opposed to Trip immune enemies!
I think its because they´re not really IMMUNE to it. The attempt itself sucedeeds, it just does nothing because they have no weapon. Whereas these monsters also have in ther sheet an specific immunity to trip.@@cRPGBro
I just tested it and... yep, it works! Got myself a tasty +40 to AB & Damage by just summong a bunch of weak things vs that died in 1s vs a Gallu Stormcaller, hah!
The capstone feat of the fleasheater gives you a +12 strength bonus, so along with the demon mythic path and the new armour mythic bonuses this could in fact give you huge power. I am trying this one out on an unfair demon run, so while the consumed enemy bonus is meh, one does not need that many rage powers, this is not a weak archetype (and the roleplay of being an evil character consuming your enemies flesh is simply too fun to ignore).
Anybody know if Owlcat Respecced Trevor to be Tortured Paladin when you first recruit him? He's the first guy I thought of when I saw the class preview. If not, well respec mod will have some work to do.
I think the reason the horse from ghost rider isn't undead is because it's a phantom (Judging by the green colour and the name "etheric tether"). In PF2e, Phantoms are described as "A phantom is soul that has diverged from the River of Souls on the Ethereal Plane before being judged. They typically retain memories of their life before death, **but are not undead** " Nice little attention to detail there.
With new mythic feat for skalds and bards combining Court Poet and ring that doubles morale bonuses you can end up adding 28 to charisma and Intelligence 😂. Shadowcaster shadow would be great with trickster never roll one ability.
Just tested it, and YEP! It can be quite overwhelming even because of how many "weak" summons you can dump on enemies before battle starts just to sacrifice them for your Crusader!
So yeah I am totally going to run Tortured Crusader for my first Angel run. Been playing off and on since release, never done Angel. Going to Final Judgement with MC and Mark of Justice with Seelah, and watch the damage fly. Oh and what I've read shows that even summons give the stacking attack and damage bonus for TC when they die, so I might just summon swarms of fodder and send them to die at the start ^,^
You are correct, I tested it and the classic "Bag of Rats" Trick is working juuust fine for Tortured Crusader, hah. Summon a bunch of weak summons and watch your AB/DMG increase by 20+ in seconds 😁
Lord of Builds and Slayer of Capybaras, I especially look forward to your build with the Reanimator and the Tandem Executioner! Tandem does not seem to have a specific Mythic tailored to it so I was thinking Aeon? Looking forward to it!
@@ldeschamps6149 TBH I am saving Trickster for 2nd to last just before Swarm. The story is kind of meh for Trickster. I still need to do Lich, Aoen, Azata and Aeon.
I sincerely hope the reanimator transitions well into Lich because I adore the lich path but I always find it sad that most builds say grab gravesinger and ignore summoning undead.
It can, but Gravesinger is still ideal even for it melee wise anyways, since you can have both melee with the ability that gives you +ab/dmg on kills & the summons!
Saving it for my lich run as a main but have a reanimated mercenary right now and it's a lot of fun even if you don't get summons until I think 6 or 7 - however my angel oracle battlemage has been amazing with the new tweaking and mythic feats they've done - summon a bunch of minions then ride into battle on my horse with a long sword and shield full tank/summoner is a blast (My build is not min maxed but it is a damn good time and full heavy armor tanks are finally viable)
Fortune you can justify if you're a summoner. Conjuration summoner. Not as good as going Reanimator, but you can make it work. But the feat starvation is real.
I just find it a bit unnecessary when Erastil already lets you pick dual busted Domains (Animal + Community) right at level 1, but this can help if you want to go with more varied deities, of course, from a RP point of view. Madness is something that can be saved for later, as Touch of Madness requires a few levels for the effect to become really good. Nobility however is another amazing choice.
also, the last level of shadow companion should be immune to failing the save, as you are basically a god killing hero / lich / demi-god at that point in the story =D
I love the channel but had to shut the video six ads (3 ad breaks not including the two that played before the start of the video) in the first 6 minutes made it basically unwatchable
@@cRPGBro honestly wasn't expecting a response been a big fan of your content for a while and just wanted to say thanks for all the work you put into your vids, especially making these games more accessible to people who might not know the systems coming in 👍 I tend to rewatch when I come from playing 2e tabletop back to wotr as a really helpful refresher for the system differences 😁
Something you forgot to mention: Reanimator (Alchemist): the alchemy bonus to "reanimate" undead works with repurpose (lich spell) (i tested it) Tortured Crusader: you forgot probabily the worst downside of this archetype since tortured crusader doesn't get the animal companion. Weretouched: while it seems strong, it has the downside that this shifter's archetype that doesn't get the "final aspect" capstone feature so it cannot keep Lycantrophic Aspect always active at lvl 20 (yes 23 rounds are still good but permanent is better). Geomancer: the extra damage from desert/underground/urban is physical type (slashing/piercing/bludgeoning) so enemy's DR work against it.
idk about the geomancy abyss feature - on high diff fort ends up a pretty strong save for most demons (with one or 2 exceptions that arent particularly common or scary) i feel like its a bit of a trap, especially considering how strong other sorcs are
A little sad they added a second hag based archetype for Witch instead of improving Hagbound... I'll make Hagbound work one of these days. If only hunched muscle was a profane strength buff and not a size!
Think I´ll do a 6 Sorcerer Geomancer, 1 Enlightened Philosopher Oracle, 10 Eldrich Knight and 3 Loremaster to get a decent blaster melee build any tips?
domain powers they are so weak i forget they exist often. I like the domain spells they allow. Using a mythic boon on impossible domain is too expensive. Separatist is a slightly weaker flavor option to an already powerful class.
Well tried Hag of Gyronna and the hag seems ok, quite tanky and can spam spells...otherwise just a normal Witch which mixed with Lich isnt a bad caster...
@@cRPGBro Maybe better than the other Hag which I still havent got to lvl 20. Actually might be better now as its a Hag/Demon.. I wonder if you change to the form of the hag of Gryonna pet?!?😂 (or maybe not as demon..)
Please, Just please can you do a wizard build and I don’t care if it’s the last build in Pathfinder Wrath Of The Righteous but please do this, I beh you
Clear Winners in my Book: Pala, Druid, Alchemist (realy hoping for a Guide on that one), Cavalier, Oracle and Shaman because I love bouncing dots/debuffs
Tbh aside from the prophet of pestilence, they all seem rather lackluster in terms of their execution. A lot of great ideas, but most miss the mark to the point they arent really worth using.
Absolutely love your videos. Any quick tips on how to adjust your oracle angel build to use the new oracle archetype? And maybe be a halfling? Thanks again for the awesome videos!
Hi there, and thanks! I'm actually planning on an Oracle Angel rework with Dual Cursed Oracle! But ideally you really want the new Misfortune Revelation, and you might also want Spell Focus Conjuration + Spell Specialization for more Storm of Justice damage, with 1 dip in Geomancer for even more!
High Wisdom + Mythic Paths like Demon and some gear like the Dark Aura from the Act 4 Shield that increases the DC of Poisons! I was able to get around 66 DC at max level with Demon.
18:52 Alone in the Dark is most OP ability in the game. It works with summons and skeletons (and yes, you can summon and kill them before battle) ! Meaning at mere chapter 2-3, you can have 100s of attack and damage in your Paladin, meaning she can one shot anything for you. Also, even if your allignment changes, the ability still stays, meaning 2 points dip and even your caster can fight better than anyone.
Yeah, that can help, it's just really hard fitting that early in a Trickster Build what with Perception 2 being so overwhelmingly better than the rest.
@@cRPGBro True, it would be lategame only. Honestly, whilst I like the effect, and whilst it would be difficult to change retroactively without a forced respec, I think perception 2 should be changed. Personally, I would give it the benefits of completely normal spell, +1 threat range and multiplier, but given to the party automatically, not taken as feats. Trickster threat range in particular is very overpowered with outflank and the increased multiplier, and it also completely dominates builds with feat selection from levels 13+ being extremely inflexible unless you get a lot of bonus feats. And this change means you could take it at any rank, not be required to take it at rank 4, though honestly, you probably still would. It would also make trickster a non mandatory pick for non merged spell caster legends. There are other changes to make as well in this regard, such as knowledge world 3 (I would change it entirely, but if its to resemble its currently form, I would change it 3 feats taken without restriction that are given to all party members for 3) and knowledge arcana, which should have fixed bonuses which are essentially like set bonuses, but they require the knowledge arcana mythic tricks rather than other items to activate. This could apply retrospectively and to bought items to stop certain items being made relatively worse.
Man, I'm torn between Reanimator and Prophet of Pestilence for Lich playthrough. Reanimator has undead support and thematic, but plague does sound fun and lich-like.
Prophet definitely has one of the most unique abilities from the mutating Plague, but the stronger effects usually only come at 14 or so, still it is something you can always spam at will!
Prophet of Pestilence is closer to Swarm path role playing wise, and having a whole bunch of swarm clones also doing ability damage could start become deadly all enemies.
I did a PoP Lich focusing on the Lich's blood magic spells. It's really fun though i did play with mods that added mythic ability to turn hexes to swift actions. I played a melee/caster scythe-weilding Kitsune. I picked Kitsune only because i was curious how a fox lich is gonna look like but the kitsune specific feat Vulpine Rush is a godsend. I didn't even know that feat existed in the first place
Hanet watched the full video yet, but there are new normal feats (only available with the dlc) that were added. You could mention those as well if you want already. And the book of dreams was finally fixed.
Awesome. i like to make thematic builds that are also powerful and your line of thought with theme and build are almost 100% matches most of the time. so i eagerly await for what you churn out content wise.@@cRPGBro
So happy to see you doing Pathfinder content again, man. Been a long-time lurker.
BG3 is pretty, but Pathfinder is gritty. And just so much fun to play!
BG3 is a fantastic game, the only problem is that due to the fact it's based on DnD 5e it's build options are pretty limited.
@@ldeschamps6149I really enjoyed BG3. Beautiful looking and lots of fun. But after a while stealing everything trivialized gearing up and provisioning. Did three play throughs before putting it down.
I just accept them as being different games that fulfill different needs.
@@ldeschamps6149 Which is somewhat remedied by the most interesting Itemization of almost any rpg I've seen, sure you have your "cast ice knife once a day" and +1 swords but then you get to the actual unique items that have mechanics never before seen in 5e combined with the Illithid powers and how those things interact with existing class mechanics and you gain an endless amount of ways to create builds wholly unique to BG3 that are immensely fun to play
I agree that 5E is indeed very limiting by TTrpg standards but I cannot subscribe to the idea that BG3 suffers from the same build limitations
Much prefer the Owlcat games tbh.
After finnishing a few play throughs on BG3 and the honour mode completion, I came back to Pathfinder WotR to then realize how broad it's possibilities are. Whitch I couldn't even digeste at first touch. The game has such a vast permutation of classes, arquetypes and role play routes, I could only dimension this behemoth after experimenting the giant BG3. Maybe pathfinder won't get the same recognition due to the visuals, but both are masterpieces unmatched in CPRG genre.
I think Toetured Cruader is not meant to replace Seelah or another Paladin, but work for those MC that want to go for a Paladin MC and STILL use Seelah, because it synergizes very well specially at level 11. Final Judgment + Mark Of Justice melts bosses
Yep, it does sound like a powerful combo, + the AB/Damage boosts from summon deaths is crazy!
You overlook the silliness of Flesheater in that you get multiple size increases. With an exotic Wide-Crit-range weapon and cleave/crit focus lets you go full blender at a MUCH higher rate. Especially when you are bigger than a Giant playing overwatch over the squishies.
Shadowcaster has been patched so the shadow no longer makes saves or loses control. It's just a shadow pet now.
Hey, great video, i see some feature i've overlook during my reading ( or not totaly understand the feature like the geomancy-thing, and i'm gonna thing about dip some caster for the curse on spell )
I don't know if you have seen this, but, they added the " ice blood " feature from the winter child as a requirement for the prestige Winter Witch.
That is nice to know indeed, as it's a very thematic combo for Winter Witch.
Standard action issues can be fixed by starting encounters with surprise.
Will you be doing any updated builds or new archetype builds? I am starved for your PF content. (I love BG3 but the builds don't stretch the same itch.)
Evil Granny might be the final nudge I need to make a Witch.
The major downside of Tortured Crusader is, that you can't choose to get the horse Pet, as other paladins do.
Yep, the Horse is definitely way better than Weapon Bond, Action Economy and all that!
honestly I really don't care about that cause the horse is bugged(yeah you still end up with weird mount bug for the horse) and it's pathfinding is straight up brain dead.
@@phantomvulpe791 what bug? but yeah, the pathfinding is still not fixed.
@@mahe4 bugs like merging your head into the horse's body or having your entire body merge with the horse while standing. Yeah weird shit like that
@@phantomvulpe791 oh yeah you are right... funny how much i accustomed to stuff like that...
Man the Hag Companion looks so cool. Can she be mounted? That would be fucking funny and also probably extremely effective.
This is it 😂
Are you going to show the new special boss fight from the DLC LoN? I think you could probably get decent views for doing guides about the specific super bosses.
I'll see about it!
If pathfinder system is applied with graphics like bg3 it would be nuts
I asume your shifter lich build can be done with weretouched sub class ? with not many changes ?
It can indeed!
Ideally go with Weretiger first for the tanking potential when you won't have so many buffs to AC.
Do +3 or higher magic weapons overcome silver damage resistance in WOTR?
thank you for the videfo sir
Always glad to help, friend!
Will we get an update to the Angel + Oracle build using Dual Cursed? :D
I’m very curious about the new hag witch. But I’ve never been able to make a witch I enjoyed.
would love a reanimator lich build video :3
So it is true if I buy the dlc I can use the extra classes in the normal main story? I think that what you said. I just want to make sure before I buy the DLC that on sale. ❤
Yep!
They can be used in the main campaign just fine.
@@cRPGBro Thank you, for responding. I'm excited to dive into the game. Currently, I'm playing Pathfinder Kingmaker and just reached Act 3. I've already purchased Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous for PS5. I noticed Season 1 was on sale, so I'm grabbing that now. I still have some time before I finish Kingmaker, so hopefully, I can get Season 2 for Wrath soon as well. ❤️
Oh forgot to ask does Season 2 get Archetypes too?
Can you please tell me, I wanted to do the usual.
to follow the mythical path of the devil through azatha. I listened to the counsellor, the alignment changed to lawfully evil, but at some point my alignment stopped at the true neutral and did not change, no matter what decisions I made. Is this a bug or because I play on a character created before the patch? And how do I become lawfully evil now?
How do you feel about the idea of reanimator alchemist with lich path, any good or would it be hard carried by lich power?
I think it would be a good choice, not as strong of a summoner as Merged Lich, but certainly quite capable melee wise.
The spells mitigate comcealment but they arent quite as good as the feats.
For starters, the spells dont work on Areelus Concealment, but the Blind Fight Feats do
That is true, but it's just that you can always get Blind Fight later.
It's mostly an issue of the other Rogue Archetypes offering more value.
why is expanded arsenal is only +2?is it a bug?
It works correctly now, so you cannot stack multiple schools worth of increases anymore.
shouldnt it be +4?
What would you say is the ideal stat load out for prophet of pest they are a wisdom caster, with the need for int to cast and have bonuses to charisma through their plague while also needing to be on the front line to help spread it? I have been having a hard time understanding what the ideal weapon and stat load out for them should be.
WIS would be ideal, as that directly increases your Plague of Abaddon DC, and I imagine if you want to play Prophet of Pestilence, you kinda want to spam its most unique feature.
For example, I was able to get around 65-66 with Demon and maxxed WIS.
I do wonder if running a court poet to shore up cha/int so you can focus on wis boosts enough?
You definitely can now with Mythic Inspiration & also the Ring of Triumphant Advance later for 2x Morale Bonuses to stats!@@SirCanuckelhead
I would like to know this as well.The stat spread for what it wants seems kinda crazy.
can you do the witch build first?
I really want to try Dual Cursed Oracle first, but the Hag Witch is coming too!
@@cRPGBro will it be today?
I'm so disappointed in the Winter Child. I was looking forward to a cool druid class, but the Blizzard elemental is SOOO weak and all of the other class features are bad.
To be fair, it is somewhat sad that Melee Elemental would have been better what with Outflank + AoO spammage.
A bit weird to cover Tortured Crusader and not talk about Unbroken Paragon, extra full BAB attack every turn that stack whit haste and your smite even can stun.
I actually had recorded a section about it, but sadly forgot to include it during editing.
You are correct in that it's probably one of the most loaded Capstone abilities!
To have Seelah as companion + the tortured Paladine should be a extreme combo in the party, shouldn´t it.
Yes!
It's fun that you won't overlap anymore.
@@cRPGBro When Seelah´s "Mark of Justice" + "Final Justice" stacks that is +40 for the Tortured Crusader that´s insane.
@@michaelgrabner8977 I assume it would be plus 60 in total.
It does restrict your mythic path choices significantly, however, and there is a lot to be said for tricksters getting many more and harder crits (which multiplies seelah's mark of justice) or an azata ability resets allowing for more liberal use of mark of justice, to give just a few examples.
Something like a trickster skald or demonslayer will get quite a lot more mileage out of Seelah's mark of justice overall.
@@notalefty999 I´m aware of that..I was just pointing out the new synergy between those 2 spells in particular which doubles the smite for the Tortured Crusader and which isn´t the case with the other Paladin archetypes.
thats what I thought... A tortured paladin of Iomedae is great for going Legend. You can maintain Seelah as your faith buddy while still doing your own thing, even if you share the same class... Also, being a Iomedae follower seems torturing enough so it also fits thematically
I've been putting off Swarm playthrough and and that was a stroke of luck since Prophet of pestilence seems like a perfect fit
Separatist Cleric might be decent for Through the Ashes/Lord of nothing since you don't gain mythic abilities
That's a nice idea indeed!
I really hope you do a Prophet of Pestilence Fallen Angel Swarm build. It just sounds very thematic and powerful as isn't Shaman a class that can merge spellbook?
This!
Yep, Angel is definitely the strongest choice for Shaman, not quite fitting thematics wise for Pestilence, but we can indeed fall into Swarm!
Swarm is perfect RP wise :)
This is exactly the class I would pick for swarm. Very good intrinsically and doesn't need companions.
Shame the DC of the plague is low. Lvl 12 and was 22...demons etc no trouble saving. There is a higher lvl perk making them reroll...
Unless you can raise the DC. Seems like a Hex which cant seem to increase...
Man that new Hag Witch class looks so cool. A full on Hag companion is amazing imo.
It burns me so much that it's in the same Class tree as Hagbound, which doesn't seem to have gotten even a slight touch up... With all that's been added here, it's hard to believe they couldn't give even a crumb to the original.
Yeah, it's kinda offers more when you consider the whole "Hag" aspect of it, but I guess one is about "becoming" a Hag, the other about the Hag companion.
@@cRPGBro I want to become a hag QwQ
@@Haiphong778 hag mommy following you around is better
Geomancer is quite intriguing. Being influenced by Final Fantasy Tactics is also a huge point in its favor!
It is quite good! Pity we cannot manipulate the terrain type.
Does geomancer work with kineticist blast?
@@cRPGBro I got the game just recently and get overhelmed by complexcity of the game mechanics so i started to search for build guides so i started build new char crossbloded acording to your build guide, than i realized that i cant choose another bloodlines because of the new patch. Than i find that there is alternative in geomancer class and guess what there is no more geomancer in game, and no build guides that are recent more than 1 year old :( are u planning to do more buildguides that fit to 2024?
While Disarm is not as good as Trip its still pretty good for one reason: not only does it reduce damage but most enemies who wield weapons do not, in fact, have the improved unarmed strike feat, so they trigger attacks of oportunity whenever they attack
I also noticed it can trigger the tasty Kalavakus looping attacks even on some enemies immune to it like the Apocalypse Locusts, as opposed to Trip immune enemies!
I think its because they´re not really IMMUNE to it. The attempt itself sucedeeds, it just does nothing because they have no weapon.
Whereas these monsters also have in ther sheet an specific immunity to trip.@@cRPGBro
For the tortured crusader, getting bonuses when your allies die would also apply to summons, wouldn’t it?
Spider ring infinite AB bonus exploit?
@@PaulaDeensButterDish they fixed that in the patch
I just tested it and... yep, it works!
Got myself a tasty +40 to AB & Damage by just summong a bunch of weak things vs that died in 1s vs a Gallu Stormcaller, hah!
@@cRPGBroI sense a build video on that one day.
The capstone feat of the fleasheater gives you a +12 strength bonus, so along with the demon mythic path and the new armour mythic bonuses this could in fact give you huge power. I am trying this one out on an unfair demon run, so while the consumed enemy bonus is meh, one does not need that many rage powers, this is not a weak archetype (and the roleplay of being an evil character consuming your enemies flesh is simply too fun to ignore).
Camelia is perfect for this class lorewise. Fits better if used on gestalt mod
Anybody know if Owlcat Respecced Trevor to be Tortured Paladin when you first recruit him? He's the first guy I thought of when I saw the class preview. If not, well respec mod will have some work to do.
But Trever is CN, no? Tortured Crusader still requires LG
Tortured Crusader is good if you want to play paladin, but dont want kick Seelah from party.
Yep, that can certainly work!
I think the reason the horse from ghost rider isn't undead is because it's a phantom (Judging by the green colour and the name "etheric tether").
In PF2e, Phantoms are described as "A phantom is soul that has diverged from the River of Souls on the Ethereal Plane before being judged. They typically retain memories of their life before death, **but are not undead** "
Nice little attention to detail there.
Very interesting to know!
Just giving you an idea, if you play a gnome or halfling you can get much more use out of Dark Lurker.
Checking all days to your builds of Reanimator and Hag of Ghyronna 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙂
They shall come in time 😁
With new mythic feat for skalds and bards combining Court Poet and ring that doubles morale bonuses you can end up adding 28 to charisma and Intelligence 😂.
Shadowcaster shadow would be great with trickster never roll one ability.
Yep, Court Poet can provide even tastier bonuses now!
Question for Tortured Crusader as I haven't gotten to playing it yet, but do they get the Alone in the Dark bonus if summons die?
Just tested it, and YEP!
It can be quite overwhelming even because of how many "weak" summons you can dump on enemies before battle starts just to sacrifice them for your Crusader!
Plague shaman sounds fun. Does look like you will have to use all your hexes to make its gimmick mechanic useful, which seems kinda annoying.
Thankfully the levels you get Hexes normally only let you select normal Hexes anyways.
Also, you can now pick the Extra Hex feat!
So yeah I am totally going to run Tortured Crusader for my first Angel run. Been playing off and on since release, never done Angel. Going to Final Judgement with MC and Mark of Justice with Seelah, and watch the damage fly. Oh and what I've read shows that even summons give the stacking attack and damage bonus for TC when they die, so I might just summon swarms of fodder and send them to die at the start ^,^
You are correct, I tested it and the classic "Bag of Rats" Trick is working juuust fine for Tortured Crusader, hah.
Summon a bunch of weak summons and watch your AB/DMG increase by 20+ in seconds 😁
That's what I was waiting for!
Have fun!
Such a great video. Glad to see new Wrath content! (The Baldur's Gate stuff is great too, btw; I just have a soft spot for Wrath.) Thanks!
You are welcome, and thanks for the comment!
Lord of Builds and Slayer of Capybaras, I especially look forward to your build with the Reanimator and the Tandem Executioner! Tandem does not seem to have a specific Mythic tailored to it so I was thinking Aeon? Looking forward to it!
Trickster would always be a great choice since it also directly enhances the pet!
When in doubt, just Trickster :p
@@ldeschamps6149 TBH I am saving Trickster for 2nd to last just before Swarm. The story is kind of meh for Trickster. I still need to do Lich, Aoen, Azata and Aeon.
Great job! Good to see you going back to Pathfinder WOTR. Any chance you do a Propet of Pestilence build? I miss your builds for this game.
I sincerely hope the reanimator transitions well into Lich because I adore the lich path but I always find it sad that most builds say grab gravesinger and ignore summoning undead.
It can, but Gravesinger is still ideal even for it melee wise anyways, since you can have both melee with the ability that gives you +ab/dmg on kills & the summons!
Saving it for my lich run as a main but have a reanimated mercenary right now and it's a lot of fun even if you don't get summons until I think 6 or 7 - however my angel oracle battlemage has been amazing with the new tweaking and mythic feats they've done - summon a bunch of minions then ride into battle on my horse with a long sword and shield full tank/summoner is a blast (My build is not min maxed but it is a damn good time and full heavy armor tanks are finally viable)
dark lurker is weak on high difficulties, but it *is* the easiest way ive justified running a full rogue on normal because it is super fun
You wouldn't happen to have anything in the ol' workshop for weretouched shifter, would you?
"cheesy interactions" when speaking about the wererat xD
So what's your FAVORITE shifter archetype now?
You can just create shadowcaster main and hire 5 dual cursed oracle to balance up the cons.
Fortune you can justify if you're a summoner. Conjuration summoner. Not as good as going Reanimator, but you can make it work. But the feat starvation is real.
It could be nice for the low duration summons indeed, as you're always summoning more!
I wish owlcat would add classes to Kingmaker.
I already had trouble to choose the class, including feasible multiclassing, now they added even more 😅
That's the fun of Pathfinder!
What do you think about Separatist animal domain and madness + community later on so you can save mythic feat?
I just find it a bit unnecessary when Erastil already lets you pick dual busted Domains (Animal + Community) right at level 1, but this can help if you want to go with more varied deities, of course, from a RP point of view.
Madness is something that can be saved for later, as Touch of Madness requires a few levels for the effect to become really good.
Nobility however is another amazing choice.
Hag is the coolest diety in pathfinder, good pick from owlcat/paizo for that one
also, the last level of shadow companion should be immune to failing the save, as you are basically a god killing hero / lich / demi-god at that point in the story =D
I love the channel but had to shut the video six ads (3 ad breaks not including the two that played before the start of the video) in the first 6 minutes made it basically unwatchable
I'll see what I can do about that!
@@cRPGBro honestly wasn't expecting a response been a big fan of your content for a while and just wanted to say thanks for all the work you put into your vids, especially making these games more accessible to people who might not know the systems coming in 👍 I tend to rewatch when I come from playing 2e tabletop back to wotr as a really helpful refresher for the system differences 😁
Something you forgot to mention:
Reanimator (Alchemist): the alchemy bonus to "reanimate" undead works with repurpose (lich spell) (i tested it)
Tortured Crusader: you forgot probabily the worst downside of this archetype since tortured crusader doesn't get the animal companion.
Weretouched: while it seems strong, it has the downside that this shifter's archetype that doesn't get the "final aspect" capstone feature so it cannot keep Lycantrophic Aspect always active at lvl 20 (yes 23 rounds are still good but permanent is better).
Geomancer: the extra damage from desert/underground/urban is physical type (slashing/piercing/bludgeoning) so enemy's DR work against it.
Do we know yet if/how Geomancer's ability might interact with something like Azata's Zippy Magic?
I have problems with the demon hunter, it does not allow me to obtain the benefits at levels 6, 10,14 and above.
Im not shure, maybe its a bug, but currently tortured pally self heal not quick action but a free one.
idk about the geomancy abyss feature - on high diff fort ends up a pretty strong save for most demons (with one or 2 exceptions that arent particularly common or scary)
i feel like its a bit of a trap, especially considering how strong other sorcs are
Finally :)
10:42 holy crap I get to use my very own hearthstone developer to fight my enemies
A little sad they added a second hag based archetype for Witch instead of improving Hagbound... I'll make Hagbound work one of these days. If only hunched muscle was a profane strength buff and not a size!
Would be nice to see improvements to it indeed!
Nice video
Thank you!
Can you do a Geomancer build? It seams so interesting.
Think I´ll do a 6 Sorcerer Geomancer, 1 Enlightened Philosopher Oracle, 10 Eldrich Knight and 3 Loremaster to get a decent blaster melee build any tips?
Why not 1 scaled fist and 4 dragon disciple ?
domain powers they are so weak i forget they exist often. I like the domain spells they allow. Using a mythic boon on impossible domain is too expensive. Separatist is a slightly weaker flavor option to an already powerful class.
Some Domain Powers actually make a HUGE difference!
Especially Community, Madness & Animal.
Well tried Hag of Gyronna and the hag seems ok, quite tanky and can spam spells...otherwise just a normal Witch which mixed with Lich isnt a bad caster...
Yep, the fact Witch can merge with Lich will always make it quite good!
@@cRPGBro Maybe better than the other Hag which I still havent got to lvl 20. Actually might be better now as its a Hag/Demon..
I wonder if you change to the form of the hag of Gryonna pet?!?😂 (or maybe not as demon..)
Please, Just please can you do a wizard build and I don’t care if it’s the last build in Pathfinder Wrath Of The Righteous but please do this, I beh you
I'll definitely do a Corruptor based one soon!
Clear Winners in my Book: Pala, Druid, Alchemist (realy hoping for a Guide on that one), Cavalier, Oracle and Shaman because I love bouncing dots/debuffs
Dual Oracle is certainly my new favorite!
That’s pretty stupid with ghost pet. I mean ghost is clearly undead… so this ghost horse doesn’t benefit from lichs Lord Beyond the Grave right?
It will not benefit by default.
Phantoms aren't undead in pathfinder, just fucked up outsiders.
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Profane Money gains!
Tbh aside from the prophet of pestilence, they all seem rather lackluster in terms of their execution. A lot of great ideas, but most miss the mark to the point they arent really worth using.
Dual Oracle is really good!
hi, where can you get a summoned monster list?
In regards to the Mournful Shadow will saving throw, couldn't fortune hex or cackle prevent the downside?
Yes, but the main downside is your patience since you'd have to keep extending it forever and ever 😁
Just wonder, but can Trickers cheat all 6 of the stronger techniques on the Tandem Executioner?
I don't think so, since they are abilities and not Feats.
Absolutely love your videos. Any quick tips on how to adjust your oracle angel build to use the new oracle archetype? And maybe be a halfling? Thanks again for the awesome videos!
Hi there, and thanks!
I'm actually planning on an Oracle Angel rework with Dual Cursed Oracle!
But ideally you really want the new Misfortune Revelation, and you might also want Spell Focus Conjuration + Spell Specialization for more Storm of Justice damage, with 1 dip in Geomancer for even more!
Recently they introduced some changes to one of my favorite classes, no normal Magus?
I believe Magus remains the same!
There is a new Mythic Ability that can help them but I don't think it's that good.
Nice! Thanks very much!
Always glad to help!
First
Mythic Initiative!
Is there a way to increase the DC of say plague of Abaddon. Seemed weak when I tried..22dc at lvl 12.
High Wisdom + Mythic Paths like Demon and some gear like the Dark Aura from the Act 4 Shield that increases the DC of Poisons!
I was able to get around 66 DC at max level with Demon.
@@cRPGBro Maybe better as Demon, tried as Lich. Whats the name of the shield?
@@MauriceTarantulas It's called The Undying Love of the Hopebringer, right after the last boss of Act 4.
18:52 Alone in the Dark is most OP ability in the game. It works with summons and skeletons (and yes, you can summon and kill them before battle) ! Meaning at mere chapter 2-3, you can have 100s of attack and damage in your Paladin, meaning she can one shot anything for you. Also, even if your allignment changes, the ability still stays, meaning 2 points dip and even your caster can fight better than anyone.
Yep, I tested it with summons and realized how... insanae it is! I'm guessing is they will remove that interaction, hah!
@@cRPGBro yeah it is patched :)
Playing a tandem executioner in Lord of Nothing now. It’s fun.
I did enjoy the new abilities it provides as well!
Here’s hoping for a witch of gyronna build with the demon mythic path!
I was thinking of Lich, the merge is too good to pass!
Trickster knowledge rank 2 would let you keep the shadow out all the time, but yeah, its a really stupid mechanic.
Yeah, that can help, it's just really hard fitting that early in a Trickster Build what with Perception 2 being so overwhelmingly better than the rest.
@@cRPGBro True, it would be lategame only. Honestly, whilst I like the effect, and whilst it would be difficult to change retroactively without a forced respec, I think perception 2 should be changed.
Personally, I would give it the benefits of completely normal spell, +1 threat range and multiplier, but given to the party automatically, not taken as feats. Trickster threat range in particular is very overpowered with outflank and the increased multiplier, and it also completely dominates builds with feat selection from levels 13+ being extremely inflexible unless you get a lot of bonus feats. And this change means you could take it at any rank, not be required to take it at rank 4, though honestly, you probably still would.
It would also make trickster a non mandatory pick for non merged spell caster legends.
There are other changes to make as well in this regard, such as knowledge world 3 (I would change it entirely, but if its to resemble its currently form, I would change it 3 feats taken without restriction that are given to all party members for 3) and knowledge arcana, which should have fixed bonuses which are essentially like set bonuses, but they require the knowledge arcana mythic tricks rather than other items to activate. This could apply retrospectively and to bought items to stop certain items being made relatively worse.
Man, I'm torn between Reanimator and Prophet of Pestilence for Lich playthrough. Reanimator has undead support and thematic, but plague does sound fun and lich-like.
Prophet definitely has one of the most unique abilities from the mutating Plague, but the stronger effects usually only come at 14 or so, still it is something you can always spam at will!
Prophet of Pestilence is closer to Swarm path role playing wise, and having a whole bunch of swarm clones also doing ability damage could start become deadly all enemies.
I did a PoP Lich focusing on the Lich's blood magic spells. It's really fun though i did play with mods that added mythic ability to turn hexes to swift actions. I played a melee/caster scythe-weilding Kitsune. I picked Kitsune only because i was curious how a fox lich is gonna look like but the kitsune specific feat Vulpine Rush is a godsend. I didn't even know that feat existed in the first place
Any chance for new companion builds? Since a lot of tricks were nerfed or don't work anymore in 2.2
Yes, but I think it would be best to wait a bit in some cases for the next DLC as it's bound to change/add some things as well.
@@cRPGBrothere will be another dlc????
Hanet watched the full video yet, but there are new normal feats (only available with the dlc) that were added. You could mention those as well if you want already.
And the book of dreams was finally fixed.
You are correct, I didn't cover them like Focused Strike on my previous guide mostly because I was unsure if they came with the free Patch or DLC!
I'm wondering if it's a bug that the feats are dlc only.
Howdy love this game but haven't been able to play for awhile
Hi there!
Hopefully you get more time for it soon, it's a really fun addition!
Will you do some builds for Warhammer Rogue Trader?😅
100% yes! I have some prepared, just waiting for release 😃
you going to be doing builds for these new archetypes? can ghost rider charge through allies? because ghost horse.
I will! I don't think the Ghost Horse can do that, however.
Awesome. i like to make thematic builds that are also powerful and your line of thought with theme and build are almost 100% matches most of the time. so i eagerly await for what you churn out content wise.@@cRPGBro
I might have to make a new oracle angel. Dual cursed looks awesome
It sure is!
As if more Revelations wasn't good enough, the new unique Misfortune Revelation is extremely powerful.
Hag of Gyronna + Aivu + Bismuth. The four character, character. 🙏🏿
Pet supremacy!
@@cRPGBro I sincerely hope Owlcat adds the Summoner class in their next game for the true pet experience
Prophet seems incredibly interesting to me as is seems tailored to swarm.
It does offer a unique theme to it indeed!