Olympic Cyclist vs $28 Aldi Bike Trainer

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @BicyclingMag
    @BicyclingMag  4 года назад +3

    Check out the best trainers of 2020: ruclips.net/video/QaGKy6MIcv4/видео.html

    • @StellaHulliet
      @StellaHulliet Год назад

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    • @StellaHulliet
      @StellaHulliet Год назад

      Hey there! I recently came across a new project called freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike and it looks incredibly promising. What caught my attention is its dual mode feature which allows you to charge the bike while using it indoors. It's truly a game changer! Plus, the powerful brushless motor, front suspension, and puncture-resistant tires make it perfect for conquering any terrain. And with the Smart Saddle Detection+ feature, achieving fitness goals has never been easier. I highly recommend checking out freebeat's Morph eBike if you're looking for a combination of indoor fitness and outdoor exploration. Keep up the great work! 😊

  • @dragonracer37
    @dragonracer37 5 лет назад +146

    This sprint seemed like he hit the rev limiter on an engine. V-tec.

    • @cg5562
      @cg5562 3 года назад +1

      exactly

    • @JubbLaRacing
      @JubbLaRacing Год назад +2

      I just had to laugh when i heard it 😭

  • @mattsaljanin583
    @mattsaljanin583 4 года назад +23

    Thank you for this. I only ride 20-30 miles on my outdoor rides at around 12 mph & was looking for something not too expensive to use on rainy days. Thank you!

  • @pauliboo2
    @pauliboo2 5 лет назад +63

    Thanks for doing this test, you’ve convinced me to buy a trainer, I’ve hesitated due to cost, we’re not all made of money.

    • @cyclenutter2715
      @cyclenutter2715 5 лет назад +21

      Whatever you're training on, it's still training...

  • @MkhuzoMwanza
    @MkhuzoMwanza 3 года назад +15

    I like how he kept it real.

  • @xspireddreams
    @xspireddreams 4 года назад +48

    I think this illustrates that if you just need an indoor trainer, you can train inside on a low budget and I definitely appreciate the fact that nowhere in the video does it say, 'you should spend a bit more and get this, or for an extra $X you can get this', sometimes people don't have the extra budget and then any suggestion is irrelevant anyway. I've been looking for a trainer with a budget of around £300-400 - but this actually would suffice and be good enough for what I would use it for which just goes to show that some people spend way more than they need to. Unfortunately, that being said, turbo trainers are sold out everywhere at the moment due to current events.

    • @CorporateGamer
      @CorporateGamer 4 года назад

      LifeLine TT-02 is available on wiggle atm

    • @jackjackthompson5771
      @jackjackthompson5771 4 года назад

      Yeah i got a cheap one too, as i lost my job this year and now all gyms are closed ( for many months) and it’s freezing outside. Gonna see if it makes me sweat, if it does that, it workes for me 😃

    • @CorporateGamer
      @CorporateGamer 4 года назад +1

      @@jackjackthompson5771 I can assure you lifeline tt does, and sorry about your job loss, lost mine last month. Zwift + this trainer does the trick for me personally

  • @EnricoMarino13
    @EnricoMarino13 5 лет назад +13

    I started out with this trainer. I had it for a solid year and it still holding on strong after two years. My wife’s uses it and loves it as well.

    • @paginini
      @paginini 2 года назад

      really were is it sold?

    • @EnricoMarino13
      @EnricoMarino13 2 года назад

      @@paginini I found at Aldi in South Charleston, WV back in 2018 not seen it in store since. 😞

  • @joynthis
    @joynthis 5 лет назад +103

    Yet the Cervelo will probably break first.

    • @CuCulainn1
      @CuCulainn1 5 лет назад +3

      They are shit aren't they :)

    • @cobaltnightsky
      @cobaltnightsky 5 лет назад

      would make a good home trainer for Hulk

  • @brianreed9688
    @brianreed9688 5 лет назад +30

    I've had mine for nearly two years and still working well.

    • @sonitclef8675
      @sonitclef8675 3 месяца назад

      Is it louder than a tv on medium volume?

  • @mikedaly3514
    @mikedaly3514 5 лет назад +30

    The reason that the speed on zwift and speed on the head unit are different is because zwift knows that you are not using a trainer that can adjust based on the gradient you are riding. Zwift takes this into account and lowers your speed so you have to push harder when climbing.

  • @MikeKobb
    @MikeKobb 5 лет назад +33

    I was seriously expecting it to catch fire. :-)

  • @reddaB
    @reddaB 5 лет назад +5

    I have that! Got it for £25. It's got Decent resistance, you can certainly tire yourself out on it.

  • @kieranpotts1086
    @kieranpotts1086 5 лет назад +37

    Should hear the sound it makes when I use it with my mtb with downhill tyres

    • @big_sexy123
      @big_sexy123 5 лет назад +1

      Wait are you on a downhill bike? Why are you training your pedaling?

    • @kieranpotts1086
      @kieranpotts1086 5 лет назад

      @@big_sexy123 I also have a hardtail that I train on

    • @TheeGrandmaster
      @TheeGrandmaster 5 лет назад +4

      @@big_sexy123 BIKE IS BIKE

    • @big_sexy123
      @big_sexy123 5 лет назад +3

      @@TheeGrandmaster I know I'm just wondering cuase you shouldn't have to train your pedaling on a downhill bike. I'm not bashing the guys choices or anything just wondering. Sorry if I gave that impression.

    • @youssefrochdi1994
      @youssefrochdi1994 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheeGrandmaster dowmhill riders arent known for their pedaling speed ot endurance. And a bike isnt a bike

  • @seanstephensen9675
    @seanstephensen9675 5 лет назад +11

    Speed on zwift is not supposed to read the same as your bike computer - it recalculated speed based on the grade/terrain in-game

  • @JoshKablack
    @JoshKablack 5 лет назад +7

    This has largely been my own experience with other Aldi bike accessories. Not perfect, and definitely not high end, but usually outperforming their discount price tags.

  • @andyheilmann1656
    @andyheilmann1656 5 лет назад +8

    I use a cheaper trainer. I have been using it for about 3 years now and haven't had an issue. I don't bother with the change in settings, and I can get solid 2.5 hour rides in no problem :)
    I'm sure a more expensive trainer would be better, but not for what I need it for

    • @naldyano
      @naldyano 4 года назад

      agree with you mate. same here

    • @juanitasalas
      @juanitasalas 4 года назад

      Where did you buy? Link?

    • @redsaturday72
      @redsaturday72 3 года назад

      What trainer do you select

  • @garettreid8729
    @garettreid8729 4 года назад +3

    Awesome. This is something I'm looking for. Something cheap af that I can do some quick rides on my porch cause I'm tired of spending 2 hours to ride 30km cause of traffic when I have things to do.

  • @memememe843
    @memememe843 Год назад

    I have had one for a few years and use with a hybrid/fitness bike.
    It loud, but i have earbuds.
    Resistance is good and adjustable especially if you use gears too.
    Its probably not the one to get for a serious roady. But for general cardio fitness it us great.

  • @BicyclingMag
    @BicyclingMag  5 лет назад +17

    What should Bobby test next?

    • @Dennis4523
      @Dennis4523 5 лет назад +4

      Bicycling Walmart road bike

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 5 лет назад

      Cheap Zwift-like stuff. I need to find a way to make it cheap enough that my GF doesn't fucking hate me for buying it.

    • @ElonMuckX
      @ElonMuckX 5 лет назад +1

      "Affordable" Carbon handle bars, stems, and seat posts. Can they handle his sprint power, and how much do they flex when riding?

    • @tsoras_alex
      @tsoras_alex 5 лет назад

      A cleaning his bike

    • @Backyardwrenching1243
      @Backyardwrenching1243 5 лет назад

      he should test a TR-MT10E and compare it to bmx at the bmx park

  • @baloney_sandwich
    @baloney_sandwich Год назад +2

    if this man thinks a $28 trainer is alright even at his level, who am I to pay for more than $28 on Amazon? Or maybe he's just too nice

  • @mmmbbq
    @mmmbbq 5 лет назад +5

    Damit. I'm in Aldi all the time and I've never seen this. And I've been wanting one for this winter. Sidenote, the Aldi bike work stand is pretty awesome for the price. It was great with my light roadbike and even with a heavy mountain bike I put on it.

  • @needfaith5077
    @needfaith5077 4 года назад +1

    Bad thing with that trainer is. After a while, it shreds your tire up. I didn't notice at 1st. Then one day the sun was beaming in on the bike and my black floor in the porch. Where I ride it. It look very dusty, so I got my broom and dustpan and started to sweep it up. That's when I noticed, it was like black soot. That I look at my back tire and sure enough, it was wearing it down. So I got rid of it. So I would say if you have old bike you don't care about and you don't mine cleaning the mess it leaves behind. Your good to go!

    • @imjasonennis3624
      @imjasonennis3624 8 месяцев назад

      I always wonder if it’s more wear than a road, or if it’s just localised.

  • @steveleslie2170
    @steveleslie2170 5 лет назад +13

    We need Aldi to come to Canada.

  • @TacticallyFitOfficial
    @TacticallyFitOfficial 5 лет назад +6

    If I’m not a hardcore cyclist but just want something for winter time what’s the ideal? Also are they always so loud? Just want to turn on a movie and ride!

    • @josephthomas3968
      @josephthomas3968 5 лет назад +2

      Just use headphones for your movie and you'll block it out.

    • @ceen3237
      @ceen3237 5 лет назад

      They are loud yes, headphones will get very sweaty so don't use ones that you care much about

    • @UenoLocker54
      @UenoLocker54 5 лет назад

      @@josephthomas3968 Works for me, but not the others around me. Guess I'm lucky to be in the south where it doesn't freeze very often.

    • @johannhans678
      @johannhans678 5 лет назад

      I use bluetooth in ear headphones. Works.

  • @Bob_Shy_132
    @Bob_Shy_132 5 лет назад +4

    That's about $60 less than my old cyclops trainer from the 1990's. But the Cyclops came with a training VHS to compare yourself to...….well guys like you.

  • @minnsminns
    @minnsminns Год назад +1

    Wait until he realises the inconsistent resistance feel is because he's riding oval chainrings and that's just how they feel.

  • @nataliepotter3635
    @nataliepotter3635 Год назад +1

    It was easy to set up and easy to maintain

  • @juanitasalas
    @juanitasalas 4 года назад +2

    I just found this video and can’t find an affordable trainer at ALDI or anywhere. Can someone recommend a link or a store to buy a beginner level affordable trainer?

  • @mannyfiler
    @mannyfiler 5 лет назад +9

    Another dub fo Aldi.

  • @onilovni1234
    @onilovni1234 5 лет назад +10

    This trainer is like Shimano Tourney, it does the job up to a certain level that is usually very low, and it's the same price.

  • @sampitz
    @sampitz 3 года назад

    Im checking a review of this Aldi bikemate trainer. Lol, this was two yrs ago. Now it cost 50€😂😂. Im still gonna think of it🤔😅

  • @Followmyleash
    @Followmyleash 3 года назад

    Thank you for the video! What's the App that you are using?

  • @zeekryder7735
    @zeekryder7735 5 лет назад +4

    Walmart sells a sensor like Wahoo's for 10$ and it works fine.

  • @litesp
    @litesp 5 лет назад +1

    It's obviously a copy of existing products, but it is quite remarkable that someone can manufacture, ship, and retail a product like this for $28. You'd expect major corner cutting that would make the trainer out of balance, wobbly, or unsafe. China can make (copy) carbon frames and wheels that can match up to many products at 3-5 times the price. They are even beginning to innovate and lead in tech.

  • @cryora
    @cryora Год назад

    How do you know when the resistance is tapped out? When it makes that loud buzzing sound?

  • @StellaHulliet
    @StellaHulliet Год назад

    Hey there! Just watched your video on bike trainers and I gotta say, I really appreciate the detailed explanations and demonstrations. It's definitely helped me understand the benefits and features better. And guess what? I recently came across a new crowdfunding project by Freebeat called the Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike. It's a game-changer! The fact that it can be charged indoors is mind-blowing. Plus, the powerful motor, suspension, and waterproof finish make it perfect for outdoor adventures. The Smart Saddle Detection+ feature is also a standout, offering valuable insights and motivation for both indoor and outdoor rides. Keep up the great content! Can't wait to see more.

  • @The--Ghostspider66
    @The--Ghostspider66 3 года назад

    Just bought mine couple days ago
    I never thought I'll be needing one during pandemic
    Got a good deal bought ut straight away☺

    • @saechak206
      @saechak206 3 года назад

      what did u buy? a bike trainer?

  • @leon262lw
    @leon262lw 2 года назад

    Got mine for £19 this week all I want to ask how can I get my millage working please

  • @UDimwit
    @UDimwit 3 года назад

    I would like to compare a smart trainer to a exercise bike itself? I have ebikes. though want to change from riding outside to riding inside..

  • @pasolesoup7430
    @pasolesoup7430 4 года назад +1

    Can you change difficulty on the 28 dollar trainer without getting off the bike?

    • @BicyclingMag
      @BicyclingMag  4 года назад +1

      Yes, it has a resistance dial that clamps on to the handlebars.

    • @katienicaindreasa7797
      @katienicaindreasa7797 Год назад

      I don’t find the dial works at all to increase resistance. I have the use of two of these ALDI trainers and same with both…Anyone got any ideas?

  • @markhopkins318
    @markhopkins318 5 лет назад

    I had the previous trainer Aldi sold with fluid resistance, the roller was plastic and I melted it after 4 rides.

  • @Tamas-Ulrich
    @Tamas-Ulrich 5 лет назад +1

    What.. only that sensor needed to ride on zwift? :O

  • @zaahierstanley955
    @zaahierstanley955 4 года назад

    What would happen if you connect to zwift using your power meter with that cheap trainer?

  • @kovie9162
    @kovie9162 10 месяцев назад

    The thing about trainer "speed" is that unless the resistance is comparable to the resistance you'd face riding outdoors at that speed, on the same bike, in the same physical condition, etc., it's meaningless. Speed is only accurate to the extent that the resistance you experience (or the power you put out) on a trainer is comparable to what it would be on an outdoor ride.
    That said, this seems like a decent buy (assuming it's still available 4 years out) for someone with a low-end but still decent bike who wants to ride 20-30 minutes several times a week at say 15mph, to maintain basic fitness and maybe lose some weight. No need to spend much more for that.

  • @martinhawkins5506
    @martinhawkins5506 4 года назад +2

    I have the fluid version of this Aldi trainer, great starter trainer

    • @mattsaljanin583
      @mattsaljanin583 4 года назад

      Do u have a link to it if u don’t mind

  • @stadra167
    @stadra167 3 года назад

    Dude can you give the link to buy the product

  • @redsaturday72
    @redsaturday72 3 года назад

    Which trainer did you select in zwift

  • @santiandres5177
    @santiandres5177 4 года назад

    Did you calibrate the speed sensor?

  • @jakobw135
    @jakobw135 5 лет назад +2

    Do you need a special rubber for the rear wheel?

    • @djlemma
      @djlemma 5 лет назад +1

      There are trainer tires out there, so you don't go wearing away the middle of your good road tires.

    • @markfisher7962
      @markfisher7962 2 года назад +1

      Trainer tires are also quieter and more resistant to heat..

  • @kwin1740
    @kwin1740 5 лет назад

    What sensor and bike computer do you have?

  • @tsangs3363
    @tsangs3363 2 года назад

    Where to buy a 28 bike Trainer?

  • @Epicartsa
    @Epicartsa 5 лет назад

    What trainer would you recommend for someone as their first trainer to do trainings and maybe ride zwift?

    • @wowwy4136
      @wowwy4136 5 лет назад

      aaro - you can get like a $100 liquid trainer with a sensor or get a smart trainer much cooler and feels even more realistic:D but very pricey

  • @cravefour
    @cravefour Год назад

    $28? where and when?

  • @Jacksirrom
    @Jacksirrom Год назад

    it's probably easy to beat that for $28 if you search used around your area for sturdier models

  • @persipina2008
    @persipina2008 4 года назад

    Can I use this on my brompton ?

  • @ashleybros103
    @ashleybros103 5 лет назад +1

    Really helpful video and recommendation! Thanks!

    • @888899999888
      @888899999888 5 лет назад

      This is actually misleading. He hides the incline part of Zwift to make the trainer "output wrong speed".

  • @txcolnago
    @txcolnago 5 лет назад

    What should Bobby test next?
    If he can clean that bike.

  • @swpa8742
    @swpa8742 5 лет назад +1

    Is aldi the grocery store?

  • @grocerylist
    @grocerylist 5 лет назад +2

    I need to get this for my wife and swap with her Kinetic trainer.

  • @brayana6365
    @brayana6365 4 года назад

    Where can I get this ?

  • @andrewfehrsen
    @andrewfehrsen 5 лет назад +1

    That bike is filthy

  • @johhnylemon4003
    @johhnylemon4003 5 лет назад +2

    will this work with my ebike...?

  • @flukedust22
    @flukedust22 5 лет назад +2

    Where can i get one of those.. Thats dirt cheap, man..

    • @BicyclingMag
      @BicyclingMag  5 лет назад +2

      Aldi! But they're not around all the time.

    • @eileencrooms4985
      @eileencrooms4985 5 лет назад

      Thet are currently at the Aldi that I shop at in Garden City, Michigan for marked down price of $34.99..original price $49.99

  • @edster9876
    @edster9876 5 лет назад +2

    Anyone found the rear roller wearing down almost instantly?

  • @kurtdanniel8541
    @kurtdanniel8541 5 лет назад

    for me rollers are better because youll learn to balqnce, this one is stationary tho

  • @brunomarques192
    @brunomarques192 5 лет назад

    This roler don't crack the frame? Sorry my bad English 🤣

  • @tmayberry7559
    @tmayberry7559 5 лет назад +3

    What happened to that back tyre

  • @mrsir2378
    @mrsir2378 3 года назад

    Why is his sprocket not a perfect circle?

    • @Inu0729
      @Inu0729 3 года назад

      That's Q ring, it's more power-efficient than normal chainrings.

  • @abravesman64
    @abravesman64 4 года назад

    Yet this item is no where to be found in all the Aldi’s I’ve checked.

  • @D_Trek
    @D_Trek Месяц назад

    Big chances if I do the same sprint effort my knee cap would hit mars.

  • @TheUnholyPosole
    @TheUnholyPosole 5 лет назад

    I can't get my bike to stand straight up, it tilts to the side.

    • @markfisher7962
      @markfisher7962 2 года назад

      Hee hee, check your floor. (Worked for me, at least.)

  • @707DPtown
    @707DPtown 4 года назад +1

    I have trainer and goodbye gym membership

  • @mgarcia2445
    @mgarcia2445 4 года назад

    It's $94 at Walmart.com...and out of stock.

  • @jameshaney171
    @jameshaney171 5 лет назад +1

    But the tires wear out and having to replace a good pair can get expensive. A good pair of tires can set you back 50 to 100 dollars.

    • @MHWGamer
      @MHWGamer 5 лет назад +5

      or just buy cheap training tires ?!? with a 20 bucks tire (or even cheaper ones from china) you are still under 50 and every resistance trainer has tire wear

    • @richardstewart5499
      @richardstewart5499 5 лет назад +3

      Buy a trainer-specific tire, or one can refurbish a rear wheel with a trainer tire just for the trainer. Indoor trainer tires are not intended for regular road training.

    • @teis79
      @teis79 5 лет назад +4

      If you don't know what you're talking about, then feel free to just don't talk.

    • @charliedee9276
      @charliedee9276 5 лет назад

      I have an old CycleOps fluid trainer I ride in winter. I can cheat working at a shop, I just grab an old tire a customer doesn't want anymore after a replacement and use it. You don't need a pair, just one. Go to your LBS, I am sure they have plenty that get tossed everyday, I know we do.

    • @jameshaney171
      @jameshaney171 5 лет назад

      @@charliedee9276 Yes but those cheap turbo trainers in the 28 dollar range are very noisy. In addition those low quality turbo trainers wobble and can become unstable when doing sprints and such. It is not just an issue of wear and tear on a tire.

  • @kkim5342
    @kkim5342 5 лет назад

    Reality checked..expensive stuffs are nothing until u try them

  • @rommelreyes2209
    @rommelreyes2209 5 лет назад +1

    plate not perfect circle?

  • @paraglide01
    @paraglide01 5 лет назад +1

    Mine is still in the box :-(

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 5 лет назад +1

    Dear Bobby, please test a Concept 2 rowing machine. Thank you.

    • @888899999888
      @888899999888 5 лет назад

      I wouldn't ask him to test anything. In this video he is hiding the incline part of the Zwift app purposefully so the speed "appears inaccurate"

  • @glennoc8585
    @glennoc8585 5 лет назад +2

    You can nuy the sensor for $20 on ebay

  • @maticer5851
    @maticer5851 5 лет назад +5

    Who else noticed the oval chainring?

    • @tomw2331
      @tomw2331 5 лет назад

      I think that's standard chainring come with the S5

  • @natekarr
    @natekarr 5 лет назад

    I got my schwinn trainer for 15 bus on fb!

  • @dylancaban9267
    @dylancaban9267 5 лет назад +3

    WASH THE BIKE

  • @meancuisine8
    @meancuisine8 2 года назад

    Cool.

  • @gunkshunter2519
    @gunkshunter2519 5 лет назад

    RIP rear tire

    • @francislematt7079
      @francislematt7079 4 года назад

      Yeah, usually these friction trainers require a yellow or blue trainer specific tyre, like those lower end Tacx.

  • @CuCulainn1
    @CuCulainn1 5 лет назад

    Might want to lose the Cervelo there unless you like paying top dollar for a real pile of dog shit!

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 5 лет назад +3

    $28 is good but that $65 chip is ridiculous

    • @888899999888
      @888899999888 5 лет назад

      You can get speed sensors for $10, this is misleading video to promote wahoo etc. The trainer is not as bad as the video claims it to be (the "bobby the olympic" is hiding the zwift incline purposefully)

    • @enterNATO
      @enterNATO 5 лет назад

      @@888899999888 I'm not really sure how this video is misleading. The trainer seemed to be ok for the extraordinarily cheap price he paid for it. He is using a wahoo speed sensor because he probably had that lying around he could have mentioned you can get these sensors for cheaper but not the point of the video. He is covering up the incline because he is holding the phone probably didn't think it really mattered for this video (which it really doesn't). Comparing zwift speed to a head unit is a bit silly as he is probably on a slight incline but his point is that it gets you in the game it has nothing to do with accuracy.
      Honestly this trainer is probably on the wrong resistance setting. It probably needs to be on the lowest resistance setting for zwift wattage to line up more correctly. I'm sure he is using unlisted trainer so your really shouldn't be shooting for accuracy. Which isn't the point of this video.

  • @mrawesomeshark5268
    @mrawesomeshark5268 5 лет назад

    Hi

  • @888899999888
    @888899999888 5 лет назад +2

    Bobby should stop lying by not telling full story. He is hiding the part of zwift where the incline is listed on camera to purposefully make the trainer look worse. I'd take the bobby to court if I was Aldi.

  • @jameshaney171
    @jameshaney171 5 лет назад

    Just buy a quality spin bike for 200 to 300 buck. And if you can't buy one exercise bike that has all the bells and whistles for that price. You are not trying.

    • @hutchmusician
      @hutchmusician 5 лет назад +7

      john guthmahn What a weird comment: that’s ten times the price of the trainer, and four or five times the price of the trainer and sensor together. Why did you even post this? You’re not comparing like for like in any way.

    • @jameshaney171
      @jameshaney171 5 лет назад

      @@hutchmusician a new Pelton or Flywheel spin bike costs upwards to 2100 dollars, you can get the same experience for 200 to 300 with a spin bike not named Peloton or Flywheel. 28 dollars is barely enough to cover a subscription.

    • @hutchmusician
      @hutchmusician 5 лет назад +5

      john guthmahn So what? For people on a 28 dollar budget, 200 or 300 might as well be two or three million. Your comment is frankly offensive in its incomprehension of economic bandwidths outside of your own privilege.

    • @jameshaney171
      @jameshaney171 5 лет назад +1

      @@hutchmusician hey if you want to live off public assistance that is your call. Get a job you bum

    • @jameshaney171
      @jameshaney171 5 лет назад

      @@hutchmusician WTF are you homeless or what Get a job you bum.