Tai Chi Punches by Grandmaster William C. C. Chen

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • Some Tai Chi Punches by William C. C. Chen, New York. This Video was filmed during a workshop held in Deventer, Holland organized by Laura Stone, Gerbrand Martini, and Roland Sante. More information about William C. C. Chen: www.williamccch...

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  • @thedarksage328
    @thedarksage328 Год назад +4

    One of my teachers trained with William Chen, and said that once he took a full power punch from him and likened it to being hit with a sledge hammer. It must be noted that Chen was-is a great admirer of western boxing. His incorporation of boxing in Tai Chi is both unorthodox and innovative.

    • @NilsKlug
      @NilsKlug  Год назад +1

      Soon we will publish a Q&A session with him from 1992!

  • @claudes.whitacre1241
    @claudes.whitacre1241 5 лет назад +11

    Yup. Most Kung Fu people I know want to clench their fist just before impact. They feel it stabilizes the wrist. But those are different muscles. Try lightly punching without completely closing your fist. Relax the fingers...just curl them in at the point of contact. You'll find that this actually pulls your punch into the opponent. Tightening your fist makes YOU feel like it's a harder hit. But on the receiving end, a looser grip creates more penetrating power. Your wrist is straight. It's that alignment that as power, but it's not the same muscles used as in gripping. Took me a long time to learn that.

    • @G_STYLIN
      @G_STYLIN 4 года назад +2

      Its all about relaxing muscle and doing a whipping motion and speed + mass transfert + chi energy

    • @claudes.whitacre1241
      @claudes.whitacre1241 4 года назад +3

      @@G_STYLIN It's also about where the snap back occurs. That determines the depth of the strike and where the damage is. This took me decades to learn.

    • @truthserum9456
      @truthserum9456 2 года назад +2

      You're all incorrect. Jack Dempsey one
      of the hardest punches ever stated that the fist must be relaxed on delivery but clenched quickly on impact. It's like trying to grab a fly. Try it for yourself and you will see that the rapid last second clenching is exactly like the crack of a whip. And that's where the power comes from.

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад +1

      @@truthserum9456 Yeah, my fist is relaxed until the knuckles make contact, then I squeeze and root, rolling the fist very slightly around the rotation of the first knuckle where I can, putting all of the focus directly into the opponent's body.
      If I want to be gentle, I use the flat of the fist, the finger bones between the first and second knuckles, keeping it empty, squeeze slightly (emptying, but not fully closed) while rooting to use the punch like a push. Works like a charm if you can get inside with "deflect, intercept and punch" and apply directly to the torso.
      (The elbow of the deflect arm can open up their guard and leave their torso completely exposed if you have the "waist" to cock it back and pull their arm using sticky, but it has always seemed to occur naturally in sparring, as opposed to a result of me *trying* to use it, much like every good execution of an internal application I've been able to pull off against full force attack.)
      I strongly recommend hsingyi training to supplement your tai chi. Practice five elements back and forth across the floor, doing one element until you get a stitch in your side, then switching to the next element, which will have a different waist movement. Don't drink water when you train hsingyi b/c the cramp will come too soon. Practice focusing lightly to be able to focus with real power. My teacher practiced "punching a curtain lightly", although I also liked to occasionally focus into a heavy bag, to make sure I could pop it. But I did too much strong focusing in training, so it took longer for real internal technique to develop.
      And don't forget about using you feet if it's a real fight-there's a reason we stomp in hsingyi training when young, and you can also focus after contact with a heel kick into the knee from inside their guard if you have root.

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад +1

      @@G_STYLIN imho it's better to stick to talking about energy in physics terms re: momentum, velocity, inertia, etc. and let the "chi" take care of itself.
      "The techniques of the Wudang sword art are marvelous and refined, but are actually nothing more than trigonometry. Please do not ignore this."

  • @williamdelong8265
    @williamdelong8265 Год назад

    One kind of punch sends the bag flying. You can see the power distributed. A chi punch the bag shakes in place. The second punch leaves a painful reminder as the chi disrupts the life force. Had a guy who kept getting in my space. I warned him numerous times. Finally I had it and gave a a light but fast chi punch while I was sitting down. He walked a few steps sat down and said that hurt. He didn't bother me again.

  • @ChenStyleJohn
    @ChenStyleJohn 12 лет назад +4

    "Don't use your muscles in a way that hold or pull you back."
    Very helpful statement, thanks Master Chen, and thanks for sharing the video-love.
    :o)

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

      Chen Sifu is the real deal.

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

      Chen Sifu is the real deal-my teacher always maintained he was one of very few in his genration who really understood the art.

  • @NilsKlug
    @NilsKlug  11 лет назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @Dan0101010101010
    @Dan0101010101010 8 лет назад +5

    this must be why bruce lee said to hold a cylinder in each hand , to promote relaxation and efficient transfer of lower body force

    • @truthserum9456
      @truthserum9456 2 года назад

      No sir that is incorrect. Buy championship fighting by Jack Dempsey like Bruce Lee did.

  • @shujiling213
    @shujiling213 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent style

  • @alexandrissimo3
    @alexandrissimo3 11 лет назад

    thank you, very interesting video

  • @captainmidas
    @captainmidas 11 лет назад +1

    finger roll awesome

  • @tpvalley
    @tpvalley 9 лет назад

    there r 2 extreme views on this, in karate we clench as we hit, same in systema and more, yet in kung fu and tai chi, we do the opposite; for me clenching before hand helps keep the wrist stable.

    • @vitocapobianco8782
      @vitocapobianco8782 8 лет назад

      +tpvalley I train in Siu Lum kung fu and we clench right before impact to deliver every ounce of energy possible.

    • @dwddindin
      @dwddindin 6 лет назад

      Dan L you will (if done properly) will not stand your hand with your fingernails :) trust me they've been doing this for a long while

    • @dayman161172
      @dayman161172 6 лет назад

      its actually only one way u clench before hit. any other thing dont make sense. What u mean be cleanse before impact is just lose fist not clenched. In taiji u clench the fist but dont tighten the other muscel in ur arm. Thats the difficulty and mastery.

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад +1

      I don't even focus until my knuckle or elbow is in contact with the opponent's body, and when I do, all the force goes directly in. I've only been done it as lightly as possible in free sparring, and I still get complaints.
      (And trust me, they guys complaining were trying to punch me in the face with significantly more force, sometimes landing those shots due to me not being a master;)

  • @truthserum9456
    @truthserum9456 2 года назад +1

    OK boys let's stop all the theoretical bs. Jack Dempsey one of the all time great punchers in his book says to strongly clench the fist upon impact as if grabbing something. And this book became one of Bruce Lees bibles. If you try this you will see how it accelerates rapidly the punch at the last second. Godspeed to you all.

  • @01mrfrank
    @01mrfrank 9 лет назад +1

    lol...

  • @jcarpenter9114
    @jcarpenter9114 5 лет назад

    Lol he could easily win UFC or not ...

    • @scottinnh88
      @scottinnh88 3 года назад

      Your joking

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

      Not at that age, but never forget that prize-fighting is a young man's sport. What are you MMA guys going to do when you're as old as Chen Sifu in this video? Curl up and die?

  • @Menyhard
    @Menyhard 5 лет назад +1

    T#bullshido

    • @bruceching4078
      @bruceching4078 2 года назад

      Whom to believe--random internet guy, or the one who took second place at a full contact contest in Taiwan?

  • @easterbuny2226
    @easterbuny2226 7 лет назад

    put him in against the heavy weight champ of the world

    • @NilsKlug
      @NilsKlug  7 лет назад +1

      TROLL MMA and?

    • @easterbuny2226
      @easterbuny2226 7 лет назад +3

      Its just a joke haha have a sense of humor man . I study tai Chi . Its good stuff . Its not about could the man win a boxing contest against Vitali Klichco or Mike Tyson . Its all about how can this man make your body work more effeciently . But take a joke man hahah

    • @NilsKlug
      @NilsKlug  7 лет назад +1

      since I'm not a native speaker I didn't get the humor part, sorry!

    • @easterbuny2226
      @easterbuny2226 7 лет назад

      Where are you from my friend ? What is your native language ?

    • @NilsKlug
      @NilsKlug  7 лет назад

      TROLL MMA Germany

  • @shinigamigundam
    @shinigamigundam 9 лет назад

    Pretty much giving up power for speed

    • @seanrodey4179
      @seanrodey4179 7 лет назад +4

      I've been hit with those kinds of punches and the rooting makes even the jabs feel concussive.

    • @itinerantpoet1341
      @itinerantpoet1341 2 года назад

      @@seanrodey4179 Indeed. My teacher was a friend a colleague of Chen Sifu, and getting hit, even lightly with hsingyi focus is not pretty. (I one took the lightest little focus in the ribs with the knuckle, no fajing until after the point of contact, and the who muscle group felt "sick" for months. And my teacher wasn't trying to hurt me, just frustrated that I wasn't hitting the right position in response to the initial attack.)
      So then what happens if the tai chi master decides to focus into the trachea?