I think it's silly when people say they don't edit their film scans! If you're having a lab develop & scan it for you, then you're basically allowing them to edit your film. Every scanner has slightly different colors, and there is no such thing as "unedited" film. There is 0 harm in doing minor color/light corrections to your film, to get them closer to how you remember the scene or how you'd like them to look. Awesome video, I will definitely be using this tip!!
I agree! My first film roll I didn’t edit it at all because it was my first roll and it turned out very great and I was happy with the result and I think choosing which lab to develop is very important, I guess that helps a lot. My second roll is damaged and I still wanted to develop it and went to different lab, but turn out not so great, I think they don’t really edit it because all the photos are totally green, I have to edit it all and do it just how I wanted it to be. The first lab I went was a great one and more expensive than the second but totally worth it and they definitely edit it too
Unless your first roll of film was reversal (slide) film or you left it as a negative it was edited. Any time negative film is printed or scanned it's edited by default, even if you are getting a scan of just the negative and leaving it as a negative image. The scan software itself is editing it on capture. If the scanned negative is inverted into a positive image it's rarely left that way so most likely got more edits for color and white balance. If, as in your example, the scan was too green it was still edited, it was just a poor edit. @@meatismurder111
Most tips like these I'll say "oh cool" and then forget about them but this? This one had me saying "WOW that's really cool" and I am absolutely going to be using it in the future.
at first i was like nah, no way it's that easy turns out it really is THAT easy, did it with a bunch of my pics and i think i'm a fan of editing now, thank u so much dude
You have no idea how grateful I am that you did this. I've wasted a lot of time tweaking film with weird colors. Once in a blue moon there will be a few that I like and keep it that way for creative purposes. Everything else will just be thrown into the abyss of my drawer hanging around with negatives I've neglected.
This is by far the best and most useful tip I have seen! I’ve been struggling with my negatives from the lab for a while now, thank you so much! Cheers!☝
Literally just learned this last month after editing my film scans from the lab for years. It the reason why I started scanning myself but I’ll still get some film lab scanned and this technique is absolutely a life saver.
It still works 100% with negative lab pro. Just make a positive copy and edit that. Essentially what you’re doing manually is what negative lab pro is doing as well. It just gets thrown off by random peaks on the histogram that aren’t part of the actual image. That’s why scans with a bright light source tend to be too dark because negative lab pro tries to preserve the highest values in the image.
I feel so proud of myself for having discovered this myself. My lab tends to have a fair bit of green cast so that green curve is my best friend. Great tip!
this is an amazing tip! i was tired of struggling with developing at home and i just found a lab near me that develops 35mm for $8.50 a roll and now I won’t have to worry about their colors not being exactly what i wanted. really cool of you to share this!
I'm blown away by the results I'm getting in Lightroom from rolls of expired film, after seeing this video. Thank you so much, I've found this to be a problem mostly with expired film, but I'll definitely be applying this technique often!
The only way to see the ‘true’ positive film image is to make an optical (i.e. analog) print from the negative on film, paper, or any other positive print media. That's why our film emulation sampling technique is based on optical printing. We are recently released our plugin for Ps and Lr, it would be interesting to hear what do you think of it.
yoooooo! This is by far the best and most useful tip I have seen! I’ve been struggling with my negatives from the lab for a while now, thank you so much! Cheers!
Dude wtf it's actually so simple yet so effective i juste tried it and man what a game changer ! Thx you for this, glad to see you back on youtube kissies from frtance
hey man! ive actually been shooting film since before computers existed, this video is sacrilege! kidding ily, these photos are bomb and ur gonna help alot of people with this one liney
You can also use this technique and with a little more effort to completely flip your negatives into a positive (for those who don't have negative lab pro)
This just makes me glad I use Negative Lab Pro to process my macrophotographs of my negatives. It's so much easier than fooling around with lab scans. Version 3 of NLP has roll analysis, which gets everything closer in the beginning if you process a whole roll at a time.
Good stuff. Way too many people are intimidated by the curves tool. It's my number one photo editing tool, does the job of many different tools in one. You can always save your originals, so don't worry about screwing up. Learn how the colors work and get good with it and never look back.
This technique works even better in Photoshop. In PS you can make a curves adjustment layer giving you all the benefits that come from working in layers. Also a huge benefit in PS is if you hold the alt / option key down while moving the end points on the curve adjustment you will get a clipping display on your image that shows very clearly where that color starts to appear in your image, helping to know precisely where you should place your point. This is especially helpful if you keep the film borders as part of your scan.
In capture one is really easy to do this using the "levels". Go to levels, choose the individual channels and for each one of them play with the left, middle and right points.
This is so helpful, thank you so much! And if you're like me and don't have any editing software, I've been able to get a similar effect just in the iphone photo edit menus (I just fiddle with various settings until it looks good)
excuse my lack of correct ~verbiage~ when it comes to the tone curve. this is just how my mind works! i seriously hope this helps y'all recover and revive some of your scans you weren't stoked on when seeing them originally, please tweet @ me, dm me your results, or post them on your instagram story and tag me!! i wanna see what's up. love y'all
Hi Linus, Thanks for all your great videos - loads of important info given in a straightforward manner. I am a newbie to home developing and scanning, so forgive me if this is a stupid question: Is this Lightroom you are using in the video? And is it the Lightroom Classic or just the regular Lightroom?
Thank you for the the video man, running through my family film so I'm having a bunch of issues show up like this. Also any advice on repairing damaged film ie: scratches?
Shouldn't this actually still work with negative lab pro? Theres an option to make a tiff copy of your converted negative, which i always select for further editing. I feel like the same theory should apply
I think it goes without saying that if more film shooters learn this, it will mean they’ll buy more film. So many people out there dealing with lab scans they’re not into and don’t know how to fix.
Hi Linus - really enjoyed the video but having a bit of a confused moment here. I've had all of my film balanced by a lab until recently when I requested TIFFs straight from the scanner, and have gone down the rabbit hole of colour-correcting scans. What I'm really struggling with is how this relates to different film stocks, for example something like Kodak Gold and its stronger yellow/brown cast or some of the vibrant greens of Fuji stocks - does balancing scans not remove the unique colour profile of the film itself? How do you know what the film "should" look like when applying these changes to scans? From my perspective it seems like balancing scans would mean you'd basically get the same-looking image regardless of what stock you used (within reason) but I think I must be missing something! Any help would be much appreciated, thanks :)
It’s hard to believe that people don’t do anything to their scans, you’re doing wonders out here G
to each their own! but yea, this tip is gas
And worse that that flat lab scan look has become desirable
I think it's silly when people say they don't edit their film scans! If you're having a lab develop & scan it for you, then you're basically allowing them to edit your film. Every scanner has slightly different colors, and there is no such thing as "unedited" film. There is 0 harm in doing minor color/light corrections to your film, to get them closer to how you remember the scene or how you'd like them to look.
Awesome video, I will definitely be using this tip!!
to each their own at the end of the day! i agree; however it’s not worth making this argument most of the time 😆
I agree! My first film roll I didn’t edit it at all because it was my first roll and it turned out very great and I was happy with the result and I think choosing which lab to develop is very important, I guess that helps a lot. My second roll is damaged and I still wanted to develop it and went to different lab, but turn out not so great, I think they don’t really edit it because all the photos are totally green, I have to edit it all and do it just how I wanted it to be. The first lab I went was a great one and more expensive than the second but totally worth it and they definitely edit it too
Unless your first roll of film was reversal (slide) film or you left it as a negative it was edited. Any time negative film is printed or scanned it's edited by default, even if you are getting a scan of just the negative and leaving it as a negative image. The scan software itself is editing it on capture. If the scanned negative is inverted into a positive image it's rarely left that way so most likely got more edits for color and white balance. If, as in your example, the scan was too green it was still edited, it was just a poor edit. @@meatismurder111
Most tips like these I'll say "oh cool" and then forget about them but this? This one had me saying "WOW that's really cool" and I am absolutely going to be using it in the future.
my guy. it’s actually so useful!
Really great practical tips, dude. Keep these coming.
you know it matt!! thanks for peeping the new viddy
This DOES work for NLP....You just have to tell NLP to save a copy as a TIFF once it applies the conversion!
Aw man gotta try that. Very curious to see the difference from the scans I have so far and using that trick
what's NLP?
@@_ped_ negative lab pro. It’s a popular film conversion software.
Holy shit thank you! I was devastated at the end when he said it wouldn't work. I'm going to go give it a try now!
Negative Lab Pro I guess @@_ped_
Yesss! The RGB curve tip was life changing for me. Thanks so much!
at first i was like nah, no way it's that easy
turns out it really is THAT easy, did it with a bunch of my pics and i think i'm a fan of editing now, thank u so much dude
You have no idea how grateful I am that you did this. I've wasted a lot of time tweaking film with weird colors. Once in a blue moon there will be a few that I like and keep it that way for creative purposes. Everything else will just be thrown into the abyss of my drawer hanging around with negatives I've neglected.
so glad to help out :')
This is by far the best and most useful tip I have seen! I’ve been struggling with my negatives from the lab for a while now, thank you so much! Cheers!☝
This DOES work for You just have to save a copy as a TIFF once it applies the conversion! dose it will works well will ?
Literally just learned this last month after editing my film scans from the lab for years. It the reason why I started scanning myself but I’ll still get some film lab scanned and this technique is absolutely a life saver.
It still works 100% with negative lab pro. Just make a positive copy and edit that. Essentially what you’re doing manually is what negative lab pro is doing as well. It just gets thrown off by random peaks on the histogram that aren’t part of the actual image. That’s why scans with a bright light source tend to be too dark because negative lab pro tries to preserve the highest values in the image.
honestly needed this to boost my confidence in jumping back into scanning after not for months. love this video
that’s amazing!! happy shooting and scanning!
It can work with NLP if you export your images to TIFF from the plug-in. Great tut Linus!
Dude, you've just helped me resurrect so many shots from the past year I'd thought were badly exposed, but were actually badly scanned. Thank you.
no like seriously, i kept getting rolls back from the lab that looked totally washed out and this plus some minor tweaks totally brings them back
My mind was blown away by this simple and very effective fix. It's a bummer you can't use this in negative lab pro
Probably one of the most useful photography video out there. Thank you for this tip!!
absolutely! so glad to help out :-)
I feel so proud of myself for having discovered this myself. My lab tends to have a fair bit of green cast so that green curve is my best friend. Great tip!
always great when you make such great finds. thanks!
thank you thank you thank you!!! it's really frustrating editing scans like these, you just made it so much easier!
Fantastic tip! I’d never seen this before. Thank you!
Going back and saving a ton of my old photos with this, awesome tip man
happy editing!!
This actually saved a lot of very bad scan i got, thanks for making these photos nice to look at
After being super frustrated for too long with my scans this brought back some confidence and passion thx bro.
this is an amazing tip! i was tired of struggling with developing at home and i just found a lab near me that develops 35mm for $8.50 a roll and now I won’t have to worry about their colors not being exactly what i wanted. really cool of you to share this!
thank you dude!!
I'm blown away by the results I'm getting in Lightroom from rolls of expired film, after seeing this video. Thank you so much, I've found this to be a problem mostly with expired film, but I'll definitely be applying this technique often!
mind blowing! I just tried this with a home scan I had that was way too blue and it instantly looked a lot better! Thanks so much for sharing!
The only way to see the ‘true’ positive film image is to make an optical (i.e. analog) print from the negative on film, paper, or any other positive print media.
That's why our film emulation sampling technique is based on optical printing. We are recently released our plugin for Ps and Lr, it would be interesting to hear what do you think of it.
yoooooo! This is by far the best and most useful tip I have seen! I’ve been struggling with my negatives from the lab for a while now, thank you so much! Cheers!
so glad to help fam!!
Bro thank you ! So simple very informative the curve tool is so powerful
Finally!! a video on correcting film scans !! thanks!!
i got you richard!
Dude wtf it's actually so simple yet so effective i juste tried it and man what a game changer ! Thx you for this, glad to see you back on youtube kissies from frtance
i got you fam :)
Holy crap what a helpful tip thanks!! This haze in the photos has been bugging me a lot but the techniques works
Great tip! I use it when I scan B/W images (without NLP), invert and close the gaps (both) and done!
This video is incredible. So happy to know about this trick now!
thanks fam!!
This is actually life changing. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Thanks for sharing this Linus! This trick helped to recover some negs I severely underdeveloped!
This is a really helpful tips 🤯 Thank you so much Linus! Gonna reedit my expired film scans this way.
thanks jordi! happy editing :)
hey man! ive actually been shooting film since before computers existed, this video is sacrilege!
kidding ily, these photos are bomb and ur gonna help alot of people with this one liney
shroomy...dont scare me like that
Huge thanks from a person who kinda recently bought 25 rolls of expired colour film. Tested on few photos and it worked superb.
SO GLAD TO HEAR THIS!!
You can also use this technique and with a little more effort to completely flip your negatives into a positive (for those who don't have negative lab pro)
Gonna need that video. 👀
Literally just take your blacks point and slide it up all the way to the top and white point all the way down
@@patrykgizicki5024 This ^ also the graph will be reversed as well once you flip it to a positive so it can be slightly confusing.
Very practical! Thanks alot! Keep it coming
This is such a great, quick way to fix film scans! Awesome.
Literally saved a roll of film. Thanks Linus!
Thanks a lot! Now I got to know how to use tone curve for film scanning!
I just recently started to try and edit my film photo. And your video has already helped me a lot. Thank you so much.
This just makes me glad I use Negative Lab Pro to process my macrophotographs of my negatives. It's so much easier than fooling around with lab scans. Version 3 of NLP has roll analysis, which gets everything closer in the beginning if you process a whole roll at a time.
This was so helpful man! Thanks for sharing!
No problem!
Loving the uploads my man! Keep it up
thanks fam!!! willl dooo
Duuude, thanks for that video! Finally my expired pics look like they should!
Great tip, this works really well with expired film
i’m actually amazed. how did i not know ab this
pretty crazy, right!!
Good stuff. Way too many people are intimidated by the curves tool. It's my number one photo editing tool, does the job of many different tools in one. You can always save your originals, so don't worry about screwing up. Learn how the colors work and get good with it and never look back.
This "simple" trick was amazing.
Thanks a lot. 👌
Insanely helpful. Thanks dude!!
thanks for watching fam!!
giving out some gems.. he’s a man of the people
this is what we do 💎
Love these tips Linus, thank you
thank you!!
This technique works even better in Photoshop. In PS you can make a curves adjustment layer giving you all the benefits that come from working in layers. Also a huge benefit in PS is if you hold the alt / option key down while moving the end points on the curve adjustment you will get a clipping display on your image that shows very clearly where that color starts to appear in your image, helping to know precisely where you should place your point. This is especially helpful if you keep the film borders as part of your scan.
I feel like I just learned a cheat code. Game-changer for film editing.
My jaw dropped on Val’s portrait. This is insane
Thank you Linus for making this video you helped me!
this video saved my life crazy how ive never known this
i got you fam
Omg i just did this on my scans and my god! Youre a genius!!!!!!!!!
yayyyyy
Great tip, I think that it will also work with NLP if you make a copy in NLP
facts. good note!
Thank Bryan and Linus
In capture one is really easy to do this using the "levels". Go to levels, choose the individual channels and for each one of them play with the left, middle and right points.
This is super useful can’t wait to give it a go.
You can still use Negative Lab Pro, you just have to make a copy first of the converison to a tif. Really easy and convient to do.
What version of Lightroom are you using? Super helpful instructive video!
Hi Linus! Thanks for this very good tips! And I would like to know what is the keyboard touch to do the before/after in LightRoom?
i use the backslash above the return key!!
This video is such a game-changer! Thank you so much for this!
Dude I love you Channel so much ! Keep up the good work my G
thank you fam!!
LINUS U R A GOD! Was wondering how people were doing this
i got you!!!
Great tip! Question: How do you enable the vertical line when you drag the tone curve?
wow this is extremely helpful, always appreciated!!! 🧡💙
of course :-)
This is so helpful, thank you so much! And if you're like me and don't have any editing software, I've been able to get a similar effect just in the iphone photo edit menus (I just fiddle with various settings until it looks good)
Thanks so much!!! Love you for sharing this tip with us❤
i got you!!
excuse my lack of correct ~verbiage~ when it comes to the tone curve. this is just how my mind works!
i seriously hope this helps y'all recover and revive some of your scans you weren't stoked on when seeing them originally,
please tweet @ me, dm me your results, or post them on your instagram story and tag me!! i wanna see what's up. love y'all
This is so effective I'm GAGGED thank you!!
These are all tiffs right? These look so good. Much love.
Hi Linus, Thanks for all your great videos - loads of important info given in a straightforward manner. I am a newbie to home developing and scanning, so forgive me if this is a stupid question: Is this Lightroom you are using in the video? And is it the Lightroom Classic or just the regular Lightroom?
thank you! it’s lightroom classic!
Wow I wish I knew this when I scanned some expire film 😔
time to rescan!!! haha
Thank you for the the video man, running through my family film so I'm having a bunch of issues show up like this. Also any advice on repairing damaged film ie: scratches?
Hi everyone, I’m super new to film photography. What is the software used in the video? Thanks!
lightroom!
i am so fucking happy to see this - litterally so so happy
i got you fam!! love!
This is very impressive. Thanks for the video!
Great tip! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
of course fam!!
wow this solved all my issues . Thanks!!!
thx my man this is such an EASY fix!
i got you!!
Shouldn't this actually still work with negative lab pro? Theres an option to make a tiff copy of your converted negative, which i always select for further editing. I feel like the same theory should apply
if you were to make a copy of your flick, yes, but the same file that’s been converted will have the tone curve cooked up already!
What the hell this is such a great tip!!
haha thanks fam!
I think it goes without saying that if more film shooters learn this, it will mean they’ll buy more film. So many people out there dealing with lab scans they’re not into and don’t know how to fix.
This is crazy. Thanks man!
i got you!!
This has saved my photos
so glad to hear it fam!!
Damn! So helpful, thank you! 🙏
thanks for watching fam!!
This is going to save me so much time.. thanks!
Glad to hear it! I got u
With the ginger girl you simply removed the whole point of expired film, made it same as a digital shot…
Really great dude! This is sincerely really helpful!
you don’t need any help with your flicks that’s for sure 😮💨🔥
BOOM! Thanks for the tip!
quick and easy. glad to help!
This is SOOOO helpful thank you for this!
thanks david!!
Hi Linus - really enjoyed the video but having a bit of a confused moment here. I've had all of my film balanced by a lab until recently when I requested TIFFs straight from the scanner, and have gone down the rabbit hole of colour-correcting scans. What I'm really struggling with is how this relates to different film stocks, for example something like Kodak Gold and its stronger yellow/brown cast or some of the vibrant greens of Fuji stocks - does balancing scans not remove the unique colour profile of the film itself? How do you know what the film "should" look like when applying these changes to scans?
From my perspective it seems like balancing scans would mean you'd basically get the same-looking image regardless of what stock you used (within reason) but I think I must be missing something!
Any help would be much appreciated, thanks :)
do this was actually super helpful, thank you!
i got ya!!