I notice that emongg is only really laughing at or soft-roasting (or sometimes roasting if they are REALLY mean) people who complained and blamed others, but he is very compassionate and helpful to people who are where they are in rank but are still trying and minding their own business, so I don't think you need to fear if you become a side character in these
Zen def threw the game, not only did they have consistently bad ultimates, but I don’t think they orbed the flanker (tracer in this case) once, it doesn’t always have to be on the flanker but when there’s downtime they should have at least gave the tracer harmony orb before the next fight starts.
@@coreyinthedryer7368Pharah is one of my most played heroes and I can say tracer is often a really good counter if the typical Soldier/Ashe isn’t working out
dear zenyatta players, if you are playing with a flanker (tracer, genji, etc) they are your harmony orb priority. you might do a lot of healing if you put it on the tank, but you're failing to enable your teammates. sometimes you should orb the tank and your other support or the other dps, but by default, that orb belongs on the flanker. love, a fellow support main
I play Zen and get super pissed when I see a zen just orb the tank and call it a day - HELP YOUR SQUISHIES. I throw an orb on the tank when they're going in/need help or just patch damage, but always looking for my low health squishies who usually need it way more than a Rien missing 200hp.
Well you could have added that it's beneficial if the dps crosses our line of sight occasionally so zen can actually apply the orb. I usually see genji and tracer only as yellow to red shape behind 1 to 3 walls.
I tihnk they're walling. 11:09 and at least 3 times when they perfectly track a flying pharah coming around a corner or door. Would love other's opinions watching with this in mind.
@@LovelyHoneyz they're team was sometimes pinging the enemies. It is way possible that they were on coms. And also, you can hear footsteps as well as mostly everything that happens in the game. I mean, even emongg says "you know the Phara is there"
@@andersj91 Nah he just plays with sound on, you can see at multiple times where he hears jets/footsteps and turns. Try wearing a headset and turning down your music.
a small tip for this tracer (im only 5 mins into the vid so idk if emongg addresses it later but it's something i have noticed a few times so far) ive seen a few times where immediately before they recall they'll use a blink. that's something theyll prob want to try and get out of the habit of doing. blinks are especially important after you've used recall, so using one just to immediately recall is kinda wasting that one blink
I've only ever refused to heal a dps if they were extremely toxic. Why would a support do the "no" shake for no reason? My boi zen absolutely needs to be orbing the divers/flankers tho
I've been meaning DPS since like season 10,used to main tank and play support a lot. And I can tell you that a lot of supports are like this for no reason. I try to be kind and friendly, every time I get healed I give the thanks ping, I peel when I see or hear that my back line needs aid. I don't condone toxicity at all, I even report toxic players, and call them out while in a match. People are just mean and even wicked in this game for no reason. If you're not playing or performing like they want you to then they'll get mad. They don't even try to understand how a hero is played. Tracer, venture, genji, sombra, even reaper, are heroes that are meant to go all the way in, flank, out pressure, and get out. I've even learnt the location of almost every single health pack so I can stay alive, and I didn't do it because I think that my team can't keep up with me, or that they will throw, or something. I do it so they can focus the healing on the tank or anyone else that needs it. and yet, a lot of them act like this for no reason at all. People in this game have terrible attitudes, they are always angry, and just keep feeding this weird cycle of hatred. Overwatch is a fun game, and it is just a game at the end of the day...
Yeah for some reason, supports tend to have a "my way or the highway" attitude. Not all, but seemingly more than other roles. If you as a dps die, they blame you instead of the fact they're the least survivable role. I think playing multiple roles really helps understand the basics of the game
@@Addvant yup, I agree. Learning every role, at least playing them for a long while, you can actually get to know the struggles everyone else goes through, and even form empathy to them
@Nemo.404 as a support main mostly. I would love you so much. I love people who appreciate when I heal or help them out. As like I am not the best and don't expect my team to be. I try my hardest even though I usually get a lot of shit from usually people.
I don't know if I agree with this. climbing isn't about hard carrying. you don't need to hard carry games in order to win them and climb over time. you just need to improve in such a way that adds 5-10% to your team's chances of winning. that extra % won't always be enough because there will be games where teams/teammates are underperforming enough that your extra contribution isn't enough to overcome that, but the number of games where that extra 5-10% can be the difference between a win and a loss far outweigh the number of games where it won't be the difference. also, climbing takes time. the only times you will climb ridiculously fast are if you get lucky with matchmaking or you're WAAAAAY too low for your actual skill level and thus are able to hard carry until you get closer to where you're supposed to be (often times due to playing comp before you understand the game, learning in quick play, and then going back to comp significantly better than others in your official rank)
@@sethescopethat happened to me in overwatch1 lol i placed at level 25 because my friend (who was TERRIBLE at fps games but thought he was a god) decided we should go into comp. Then when i got back into the game i played qp for hundreds of hours and came back climbing from bronze to plat super fast. It was kinda dumb tbh lol but oh well
This guys Tracer play is great! It’s almost hard to believe he’s silver, but this vod also shows that there is so much more to carrying games as DPS. The Torb is unfortunately hard countering our hero later in the game
This Tracer is honestly better than 90% of the Tracers I see in Diamond / Masters. It's mostly just this player being super weak to their counters. Was struggling a bit too much to dodge Ana sleep and avoided Turret in disadvantagious ways, but it's still criminal they somehow placed this low.
For your pulse bombs: VAXTA practice mode. Thinking of it in terms of "run up and stick" gives the wrong idea; it's really a projectile weapon, like Junkrat's grenades. You can be a bit more patient with it, take a moment to see how your target is moving and then lead your shot.
I require the viewpoint of the zen. My guess is due to their own poor positioning they got frustrated and blamed the Tracer for not peeling. More often then not that Zen was just out of place fighting alone. The only orb placed on the Tracer was i think on accident
dude in the chat said play tank to work on tunnel vision. Tanks are the most tunnel visioned players in all of overwatch. Most team fights I have in diamond are lost because the tank gets hyper focused on chasing a lucio or moira on the other teams backline and just wanders away from the fight while the team gets destroyed. A tank being able to switch priorities mid fight and adjust to changing circumstances is the rarest thing in Overwatch. I'd say 90% of tanks just have a completely one track mind and generally no awareness of whats going behind them or to the sides.
Tanks have one job: Make\Maintain\Deny Space. If that means pushing, advancing, receding, or even getting kills to make it happen, then they are doing a good job. If a Lucio makes them forget that, and they backtrack to get a "free" kill, then they aren't a good tank XD.
Man, this literally just happened to me in 2 straight games again. We were doing OK and seemed to be winning a fight then we lose and I look around trying to figure out why and the tank is down by their spawn. Both games it was OT and tank just wandered off. . . This was diamond btw.
Blink management and meleeing seems to be one of the biggest thing they're lacking as well. They like to tunnel in on a target and triple blink right into their hitbox and then try to one clip. In higher ranks if you get up close and personal like that as tracer people won't miss their CDs on you. Need to use your blinks properly mid fight + combo blink melee/recall melee to maximize damage and kill potential. So many times they were poking and a target was at sub 50 hp where they could've just blink in melee blink out and shoot and possibly get a kill.
About 4 minutes in and the talk about Bastion's crit damage spot in his tank form just reminded me of when a lot of silver and gold players probably wouldn't know that, and you could blink through him with Tracer and a lot of players wouldn't hit that 180 turn to shred you to pieces immediately. Back when streamers could watch someone's gameplay and be like "Well, you went a whole match without accidentally falling off the map, so you'll probably climb to high plat really quickly, maybe diamond if you get your accuracy above 17%" (slight exaggeration) Also, I just saw "the critoris" in Emongg's chat and that's what I'm calling Bastion's little nub from now on
Only thing this Tracer did that was super annoying was spraying before running in to pre-empt a POTG cam and teabagging repeatedly which did come off as ego
Had a Kiri this season rage and start throwing on dorado because on attack we pushed the cart to beside the well and didn’t manage to cap so the Kiri said “gg dps diff” didn’t play at all during defense, but without the kiri we were able to hold them back for 2 minutes straight then in final fight they pushed in with 5 ults but luckily when kiri heard overtime start (and me yelling over VC) they picked up the controller and actually suzued a junker queen illari ult combo allowing us to win the game, i then hit gold 2 from that win, reported kiri, and got a message saying action was taken against them when i logged back into the game 3 days later and haven’t played ranked since, moral of the story: never back down never give up, and always report throwers
In what twisted hell of logic does throwing because you think someone else is throwing a solution? You're punishing a thrower? No you just joined him and are pandering to his will. Kids' minds are screwed-up.
i am 15 years old and i started playing overwatch 2 a couple weeks ago and first i tried to main widow, then reinhardt, and now i fell in love playing tracer. Trained pulse bombs in a workshop for the first time last night and went from not hitting a single pulse to doing some 90s and 180s. I watch a lot of tracer videos to learn especially the korean tracers. I was playing qp with a retired overwatch league dude and he exposed me to the korean server, man they are completely different than na, diamond na = gold korea, was getting headshot over and over by a gm Ashe in qp. I would definitely keep playing there to get better but i dont wanna play on 160 ping lol.
Honestly Ive just started playing overwatch (like a month) and had a couple of games as Tracer the past few days and hearing Emongg compliment this Tracer when theirs look close to mine feels nice :') I feel like I maybe spend too much time waiting, but seeing this blood thirsty Tracer jump in and die immediately makes me feel somewhat justified 😅
yeah they are, otherwise they wouldn't be where they are. it's legit so simple to climb out of bronze/silver/gold just by decent positioning and understanding of the game. this person, like basically everyone else who says shit like this, doesn't take into consideration you're watching a game full of a buncha people who aren't that great at the game to begin with so ofc some of these players/plays make them look better than you think. but drop them into a game a whole rank higher and they look like they belong a rank lower lmao
@@bunnyg4464Hard disagree. The tracer plays at a level that's just as good as a lot of the tracers I see in Plat as far as mechanics. Mechanics can get you pretty far on a character like this, so I highly doubt they belong in silver. There's a good chance that they just haven't played enough to get out of their rank. Positioning wasn't too bad, and the mechanics were pretty good, this person should certainly be in gold atleast. There's stuff to work on obviously, but not so much that they belong in silver.
@@bunnyg4464 I disagree entirely, apart from the tunnel vision this person cooked, they were shot in the foot by a salty support and still managed to put up good numbers. You put to much faith in the overwatch ranked system.
@@croingo8294 On God... I don't get why people just go, "You belong in your rank."I ended up on a losing streak on Tank because my DPS or support just would not do their part or they picked characters they couldn't aim with. I ended up in Silver 5 then climbed back to Gold 3. Did I belong in Silver? Absolutely not...
HOLY...haha, I didn't remember this one, but I guess I had Emongg on at work that day because I can see myself in the chat, and I remember that conversation and the game I was referencing. Wild.
Without context, I would say that Tracer is in a premade with the zen, There's no way they put these as solo players in the same lobby (or zen trolling).
honestly it's a problem I run into all the time, the greed just takes me. I always think "no more cowboy shit" and then I think about how almost every enemy is 2 good sprays away from death.
It can be a slow grind out of Silver DPS Emongg. I can whizz right through as tank but tank is the main decider if you win or lose these days. DPS is generally the least impactful and probably requires you to be at least high diamond to be able guarantee escape velocity from ELO hell.
Elo-hell is pretty real. I know its super cliche to blame your teammates instead of yourself, but hear me out. I have 2 accounts, not as a smurf but just for fun. Im low Gold on one account and low Plat on the other. Im not a perfect player but about 8/10 games I perform extremely well, its just not always enough to lead to a win (I still make mistakes and could improve). On my Plat account I actively feel how better my teammates are and the game is so much easier on me. On my low gold account, im constantly getting high silver teammates and they are legit the worst of the worst... and it wont matter how well I play it just cant make up for that. And its consistent, I actually cannot climb on that 1 account because of it. I just know how much sh1t people get for blaming teammates and rightfully so, but I dont think its considered enough just how much easier the game is when you have better teammates. Even if the enemy players are better too, when you have teammates who understand how to play and can actually hold their own you dont feel like you have to do everything, which is often how I feel on my low gold account. I havent watched the vid yet so idk what the discourse is or how it plays out, but I sawthe thumbnail and wanted to give my opinion on elo-hell. Yes If I work on myself and improve i'll eventually get good enough to overcome that but im just not there yet.
Do you play support? If so then you likely just don't play aggro enough. Healing and trying to enable silver players won't get you very far if you're legit a better player.
@@Invhytas i play all roles but on supp i main bap and am usually the best dps on the team. Not always I dont wanna discredit my all my teammates but its rough sometimes. Ur absolutely right tho
I might be going crazy, but this Tracer and I play so similar yet we're both low ranks. I hope this tracer main reaches high rank, because omw they're good
the guy may be much higher on his main like multiple ranks higher, but on tracer hes silver, while there are gold supps that can barely heal and think that should be enough to win the game.. thats how matchmaking works now, like if u play kiriko ur almost automatically higher than u would if u dont play her.
doesn't look like silver at all... until one tricking at the end had them pinned down by a torb turret for like a minute. That is probably what adds up.
I'm not that hard on the zen for the ultimates (zen ult is pretty useless nowadays since they didn't change it in line with the DPS passive - so most of the ults he previously could counter he can't reliably anymore) - they were predominantly survival ults which is a reasonable use of it. Idk, I guess this is silver or whatever so I don't know when Zens start realizing they should orb someone *other* than the tank (anecdotally I see Zens doing that straight up into Diamond, and tanks thinking that's what should be done) but I would've expected more love from the harmony orb. Anyways, this Tracer shouldn't stay Silver for long. They can probably climb faster by prioritizing their survival (I think that they died a bit more than they needed to).
That Zen was ulting when everyone was full HP and the teamfight was over. Idk how you can give that a pass lol Also I feel like everyone is so harsh on his ult, it seems completely fine imo. It could be stronger, but its not like dogshit like ppl seem to suggest. Its still 300HP per second for 6 seconds. Lifeweavers tree does significantly less healing than that. Saying its useless is a bit silly imo.
Lol, I'm not really defending this silver Zen as peak performance, I'm saying it's normal and whatever for the rank. Review 10 of your games and count how many ults you muff up - it's pretty humbling. I'm a Zen main - I've played him since S3 of OW1. Compared to any other time period in his history, his ult is super trash right now after the DPS change - nevermind that there are abilities like Kiri's cleanse that save against more things more consistently than his ult does. Its best current use is to save yourself or a tank that's going to go down to straight damage. The only ults it counters are the ones that are ALSO trash, like Hanzo. It is what it is, but pretending it's not terrible isn't the play
I found tracer really easy to climb with especially in low ranks like gold etc If you can burst down a support/dps most of the time because these ranks cant position to save their lifes. Just gotta really headshot them and be mosquitoing around
I feel the struggle here is that they are not able to hold their own. At the beginning it looked all great only because they were following up on their team's plays but when they try to go out on their own they are completely lost and can not secure the kill. I see why they play Tracer so they can rely on Blink and Recall but as DPS you have to be able to handle your own. They wait too long to try to make a play and just falls flat cause they can't follow through. If you as DPS rely heavily on your team, that is not going to get you far in ranked.
hello person who submitted this! i have only one tip for you because i dont play dps and don't really know anything about it. this is a tracer tip. stop watching so much jay3; you've learned his trademark pulse bomb tactics lmao (jk we love jay3 in this house)
Dia is pushing it. That person would drown against players that actually looked at them. The silver Ana hit more sleeps than not on them and this doesn't get easier when high plat low dia baps, illaris, kiris etc force recall with a single headshot.
I tihnk they're walling. 11:09 and at least 3 times when they perfectly track a flying pharah coming around a corner or door. Would love other's opinions watching with this in mind. 14:27 is one (and subtle) but they do it like 4 or 5 times perfectly. It's like they have ultra instinct every time they peek. 15:59 they glance perfect over at the turret. No reason to do that. There's lots of these through wall glances throughout the game. 17:45 they stop and stare through the wall, see the whole other team is main, then don't even bother clearing the alley (a popular way for enemies to come through) vefore double blinking in to ult. There are at least 6 or 7 more moments I could timestamp but those were just ones that stuck out a bit. The more I watch the more sure I am tbh... Each one is small but together it seems overwhelming. I tihnk they thought it was subtle enough they could submit it...
Actually the more I watch this the more I think this person has walls. Perfect pharah sky tracking as they come out of doors, always looking in the exact right spot when they get to the edge of the building on the second floor in the town section. I'd love for someone else to watch with the same thought and comment their thoughts...
@@andersj91 yeah, I didn't want to call it out, but throughout the video I was watching him 'look' at stuff and at times even prefire. Like, there's tons of sus moments - sometimes it looks like they look at someone then realize they should't and quickly look another direction. And it makes me think if they have walls, they may have aimbot , but just slightly like 15% (or however you adjust the locking) soft locking - enough to assist, thus making their aim look really good.
100% an ego vod, the constant spraying every other blink and the insane accuracy for a silver player. Normal silver tracers are over here dumping magazines into the front of a tank every fight
The only other suggestion anyone could've made to the Tracer to help them win this game was a simple one: SWAP Yes, you're having a great game on Tracer, but they counteswapped to Ana and Torb/Sym and started to get that Tracer picked off a LOT more often, especially when the Tracer was on defense. The Tracer's Zen was still absolutely garbage, 100%, but don't let your ego keep you on a hero that the enemy team has built their team around stopping.
people submit fake ranks/skill only to get featured by emongg, so worthless. and even if they are really at the level they say they are, 3 games later they gonna forget what you said and gonna go back to do their automated mistakes specially on different maps, i dont understand the point of those vids, no offensive but at this point its just only a thing to have for a video
Just had some dude say tank is awful and not fun to play and then completely get rolled 1v5 blame the rest of the team and when I told him not to push alone and get rolled he jumped off the map multiple times
every time one of these drops i am struck with the fear that i will be a side character in the game
Dude same, I’ve seen some people in these spectating videos that I see in my games often and I’m so scared I’ll be in one of them one day.
The benefits of only really playing quick play.
me too and then i’ll be embarrassed
I notice that emongg is only really laughing at or soft-roasting (or sometimes roasting if they are REALLY mean) people who complained and blamed others, but he is very compassionate and helpful to people who are where they are in rank but are still trying and minding their own business, so I don't think you need to fear if you become a side character in these
I always hope it’s my buddy so I can make fun of him
Zen def threw the game, not only did they have consistently bad ultimates, but I don’t think they orbed the flanker (tracer in this case) once, it doesn’t always have to be on the flanker but when there’s downtime they should have at least gave the tracer harmony orb before the next fight starts.
Notice that enemy dps trying to use any hero that is good counter to tracer. I think this speak enough volume. You are their obstacle
the fact that the tracer got picks on Pharah says a lot
@@coreyinthedryer7368Pharah is one of my most played heroes and I can say tracer is often a really good counter if the typical Soldier/Ashe isn’t working out
@@HasbullaTheGreatestTracer "countering" pharah is very VERY map dependent
dear zenyatta players,
if you are playing with a flanker (tracer, genji, etc) they are your harmony orb priority. you might do a lot of healing if you put it on the tank, but you're failing to enable your teammates. sometimes you should orb the tank and your other support or the other dps, but by default, that orb belongs on the flanker.
love,
a fellow support main
I play Zen and get super pissed when I see a zen just orb the tank and call it a day - HELP YOUR SQUISHIES. I throw an orb on the tank when they're going in/need help or just patch damage, but always looking for my low health squishies who usually need it way more than a Rien missing 200hp.
Another tip: don’t ult to highground
@@togsana nah that's a play that's just too big brain for any of us to understand 😂 always ult to get to high ground as zen Kappa
It's really situational, it really depends on your team comp, and healing priority.
Well you could have added that it's beneficial if the dps crosses our line of sight occasionally so zen can actually apply the orb. I usually see genji and tracer only as yellow to red shape behind 1 to 3 walls.
This tracer is one of the best tracers I've seen in this series. I hope he's out of silver soon so he doesn't run into the Zen ever again
I tihnk they're walling. 11:09 and at least 3 times when they perfectly track a flying pharah coming around a corner or door. Would love other's opinions watching with this in mind.
@@andersj91no, either they have comms or they just heard the pharah rockets, which you can obviously see.
You can also hear her jet packs
@@LovelyHoneyz they're team was sometimes pinging the enemies. It is way possible that they were on coms. And also, you can hear footsteps as well as mostly everything that happens in the game. I mean, even emongg says "you know the Phara is there"
@@andersj91 Nah he just plays with sound on, you can see at multiple times where he hears jets/footsteps and turns. Try wearing a headset and turning down your music.
The best part about the zen ulting the wrecking ball slam was that they died to the mines after...
13:25
a small tip for this tracer (im only 5 mins into the vid so idk if emongg addresses it later but it's something i have noticed a few times so far) ive seen a few times where immediately before they recall they'll use a blink. that's something theyll prob want to try and get out of the habit of doing. blinks are especially important after you've used recall, so using one just to immediately recall is kinda wasting that one blink
Depends, sometimes you wanna go for blink-melees before recall
I've only ever refused to heal a dps if they were extremely toxic. Why would a support do the "no" shake for no reason?
My boi zen absolutely needs to be orbing the divers/flankers tho
I've been meaning DPS since like season 10,used to main tank and play support a lot. And I can tell you that a lot of supports are like this for no reason. I try to be kind and friendly, every time I get healed I give the thanks ping, I peel when I see or hear that my back line needs aid. I don't condone toxicity at all, I even report toxic players, and call them out while in a match. People are just mean and even wicked in this game for no reason. If you're not playing or performing like they want you to then they'll get mad. They don't even try to understand how a hero is played. Tracer, venture, genji, sombra, even reaper, are heroes that are meant to go all the way in, flank, out pressure, and get out. I've even learnt the location of almost every single health pack so I can stay alive, and I didn't do it because I think that my team can't keep up with me, or that they will throw, or something. I do it so they can focus the healing on the tank or anyone else that needs it. and yet, a lot of them act like this for no reason at all.
People in this game have terrible attitudes, they are always angry, and just keep feeding this weird cycle of hatred. Overwatch is a fun game, and it is just a game at the end of the day...
@@Aon_Duine dang, I'm sorry to hear that. Keep on keepin on my flankin friend
Yeah for some reason, supports tend to have a "my way or the highway" attitude. Not all, but seemingly more than other roles. If you as a dps die, they blame you instead of the fact they're the least survivable role. I think playing multiple roles really helps understand the basics of the game
@@Addvant yup, I agree. Learning every role, at least playing them for a long while, you can actually get to know the struggles everyone else goes through, and even form empathy to them
@Nemo.404 as a support main mostly. I would love you so much. I love people who appreciate when I heal or help them out. As like I am not the best and don't expect my team to be. I try my hardest even though I usually get a lot of shit from usually people.
11:55 what a good recall to dodge the sleep!!!
I'm so glad someone else caught that! It was so good!
We all have our own personal elo hell, its where you're better than most players but cant hard carry out of it.
I don't know if I agree with this. climbing isn't about hard carrying. you don't need to hard carry games in order to win them and climb over time. you just need to improve in such a way that adds 5-10% to your team's chances of winning. that extra % won't always be enough because there will be games where teams/teammates are underperforming enough that your extra contribution isn't enough to overcome that, but the number of games where that extra 5-10% can be the difference between a win and a loss far outweigh the number of games where it won't be the difference.
also, climbing takes time. the only times you will climb ridiculously fast are if you get lucky with matchmaking or you're WAAAAAY too low for your actual skill level and thus are able to hard carry until you get closer to where you're supposed to be (often times due to playing comp before you understand the game, learning in quick play, and then going back to comp significantly better than others in your official rank)
@@sethescopeI must’ve missed the part where he said you have to hard carry😂 but I get your point
Also known as being in the right rank
it's not elo hell, it's literally right where you belong. if you're good enough, you'd climb.
@@sethescopethat happened to me in overwatch1 lol i placed at level 25 because my friend (who was TERRIBLE at fps games but thought he was a god) decided we should go into comp. Then when i got back into the game i played qp for hundreds of hours and came back climbing from bronze to plat super fast. It was kinda dumb tbh lol but oh well
This guys Tracer play is great! It’s almost hard to believe he’s silver, but this vod also shows that there is so much more to carrying games as DPS. The Torb is unfortunately hard countering our hero later in the game
Brooo this tracer was doin alright good trackin
This Tracer is honestly better than 90% of the Tracers I see in Diamond / Masters. It's mostly just this player being super weak to their counters. Was struggling a bit too much to dodge Ana sleep and avoided Turret in disadvantagious ways, but it's still criminal they somehow placed this low.
For your pulse bombs: VAXTA practice mode. Thinking of it in terms of "run up and stick" gives the wrong idea; it's really a projectile weapon, like Junkrat's grenades. You can be a bit more patient with it, take a moment to see how your target is moving and then lead your shot.
I require the viewpoint of the zen. My guess is due to their own poor positioning they got frustrated and blamed the Tracer for not peeling. More often then not that Zen was just out of place fighting alone. The only orb placed on the Tracer was i think on accident
dude in the chat said play tank to work on tunnel vision. Tanks are the most tunnel visioned players in all of overwatch. Most team fights I have in diamond are lost because the tank gets hyper focused on chasing a lucio or moira on the other teams backline and just wanders away from the fight while the team gets destroyed. A tank being able to switch priorities mid fight and adjust to changing circumstances is the rarest thing in Overwatch. I'd say 90% of tanks just have a completely one track mind and generally no awareness of whats going behind them or to the sides.
Tanks have one job: Make\Maintain\Deny Space.
If that means pushing, advancing, receding, or even getting kills to make it happen, then they are doing a good job. If a Lucio makes them forget that, and they backtrack to get a "free" kill, then they aren't a good tank XD.
truee i think support is good to practice cause we have to be very aware of everything that is happening
Man, this literally just happened to me in 2 straight games again. We were doing OK and seemed to be winning a fight then we lose and I look around trying to figure out why and the tank is down by their spawn. Both games it was OT and tank just wandered off. . . This was diamond btw.
Half his chat sucks at the game, so does he idk why they listen to him
Blink management and meleeing seems to be one of the biggest thing they're lacking as well. They like to tunnel in on a target and triple blink right into their hitbox and then try to one clip. In higher ranks if you get up close and personal like that as tracer people won't miss their CDs on you. Need to use your blinks properly mid fight + combo blink melee/recall melee to maximize damage and kill potential. So many times they were poking and a target was at sub 50 hp where they could've just blink in melee blink out and shoot and possibly get a kill.
Today's "alright so!" Was extra spicy
Torb pick from the other team was good counter.
It was brilliant.
as a new tracer player, i’m getting overly excited whenever they make good plays. inspires me to play
About 4 minutes in and the talk about Bastion's crit damage spot in his tank form just reminded me of when a lot of silver and gold players probably wouldn't know that, and you could blink through him with Tracer and a lot of players wouldn't hit that 180 turn to shred you to pieces immediately. Back when streamers could watch someone's gameplay and be like "Well, you went a whole match without accidentally falling off the map, so you'll probably climb to high plat really quickly, maybe diamond if you get your accuracy above 17%" (slight exaggeration)
Also, I just saw "the critoris" in Emongg's chat and that's what I'm calling Bastion's little nub from now on
Only thing this Tracer did that was super annoying was spraying before running in to pre-empt a POTG cam and teabagging repeatedly which did come off as ego
😂the bit we’re they empty 5 magazines into the rammatra without them batting an eyelid
ELO Hell ... A smurf's delight, and a counter's plight. A submitter's best, and a chatter's jest. A streamer's bait, and Blizzard's fate ...
@@omniominous4534 wtf are you saying
Had a Kiri this season rage and start throwing on dorado because on attack we pushed the cart to beside the well and didn’t manage to cap so the Kiri said “gg dps diff” didn’t play at all during defense, but without the kiri we were able to hold them back for 2 minutes straight then in final fight they pushed in with 5 ults but luckily when kiri heard overtime start (and me yelling over VC) they picked up the controller and actually suzued a junker queen illari ult combo allowing us to win the game, i then hit gold 2 from that win, reported kiri, and got a message saying action was taken against them when i logged back into the game 3 days later and haven’t played ranked since, moral of the story: never back down never give up, and always report throwers
In what twisted hell of logic does throwing because you think someone else is throwing a solution? You're punishing a thrower? No you just joined him and are pandering to his will. Kids' minds are screwed-up.
I do appreciate them going for the cas first because the most dangerous thing to them is the cas
i am 15 years old and i started playing overwatch 2 a couple weeks ago and first i tried to main widow, then reinhardt, and now i fell in love playing tracer. Trained pulse bombs in a workshop for the first time last night and went from not hitting a single pulse to doing some 90s and 180s. I watch a lot of tracer videos to learn especially the korean tracers. I was playing qp with a retired overwatch league dude and he exposed me to the korean server, man they are completely different than na, diamond na = gold korea, was getting headshot over and over by a gm Ashe in qp. I would definitely keep playing there to get better but i dont wanna play on 160 ping lol.
Majority of those zen ulta were self preserving and that’s it
So are we gonna talk about how they looked directly at 2 enemy team members through walls around the 11:15 mark?
You realise there's audio right?
yeah, just audio. super loud pharah + relatively few possible places for the torb to be.
So do you guys just assume someone is cheating whenever they have headphones?
5:47 illari dying sounds like my girlfriend when I'm still playing overwatch
Honestly Ive just started playing overwatch (like a month) and had a couple of games as Tracer the past few days and hearing Emongg compliment this Tracer when theirs look close to mine feels nice :') I feel like I maybe spend too much time waiting, but seeing this blood thirsty Tracer jump in and die immediately makes me feel somewhat justified 😅
This guy is jiggle peaking, using cover, high ground and having decent blink management. Never would’ve guessed their rank.
His is probably my first time saying this, this person isn’t silver
yeah they are, otherwise they wouldn't be where they are. it's legit so simple to climb out of bronze/silver/gold just by decent positioning and understanding of the game. this person, like basically everyone else who says shit like this, doesn't take into consideration you're watching a game full of a buncha people who aren't that great at the game to begin with so ofc some of these players/plays make them look better than you think. but drop them into a game a whole rank higher and they look like they belong a rank lower lmao
@@bunnyg4464Hard disagree. The tracer plays at a level that's just as good as a lot of the tracers I see in Plat as far as mechanics. Mechanics can get you pretty far on a character like this, so I highly doubt they belong in silver. There's a good chance that they just haven't played enough to get out of their rank. Positioning wasn't too bad, and the mechanics were pretty good, this person should certainly be in gold atleast. There's stuff to work on obviously, but not so much that they belong in silver.
@@bunnyg4464 I disagree entirely, apart from the tunnel vision this person cooked, they were shot in the foot by a salty support and still managed to put up good numbers. You put to much faith in the overwatch ranked system.
@@bunnyg4464
Your opinion is wrong and Emong pointed out several things to prove why.
@@croingo8294
On God... I don't get why people just go, "You belong in your rank."I ended up on a losing streak on Tank because my DPS or support just would not do their part or they picked characters they couldn't aim with. I ended up in Silver 5 then climbed back to Gold 3. Did I belong in Silver? Absolutely not...
HOLY...haha, I didn't remember this one, but I guess I had Emongg on at work that day because I can see myself in the chat, and I remember that conversation and the game I was referencing. Wild.
That Ana was kinda crazy with those sleeps and awarness
Without context, I would say that Tracer is in a premade with the zen, There's no way they put these as solo players in the same lobby (or zen trolling).
Wut? Why would a premade zen ever _not_ heal their Tracer and then blame them for the loss?
honestly it's a problem I run into all the time, the greed just takes me. I always think "no more cowboy shit" and then I think about how almost every enemy is 2 good sprays away from death.
It can be a slow grind out of Silver DPS Emongg. I can whizz right through as tank but tank is the main decider if you win or lose these days. DPS is generally the least impactful and probably requires you to be at least high diamond to be able guarantee escape velocity from ELO hell.
Elo-hell is pretty real. I know its super cliche to blame your teammates instead of yourself, but hear me out.
I have 2 accounts, not as a smurf but just for fun. Im low Gold on one account and low Plat on the other. Im not a perfect player but about 8/10 games I perform extremely well, its just not always enough to lead to a win (I still make mistakes and could improve). On my Plat account I actively feel how better my teammates are and the game is so much easier on me. On my low gold account, im constantly getting high silver teammates and they are legit the worst of the worst... and it wont matter how well I play it just cant make up for that. And its consistent, I actually cannot climb on that 1 account because of it. I just know how much sh1t people get for blaming teammates and rightfully so, but I dont think its considered enough just how much easier the game is when you have better teammates. Even if the enemy players are better too, when you have teammates who understand how to play and can actually hold their own you dont feel like you have to do everything, which is often how I feel on my low gold account.
I havent watched the vid yet so idk what the discourse is or how it plays out, but I sawthe thumbnail and wanted to give my opinion on elo-hell. Yes If I work on myself and improve i'll eventually get good enough to overcome that but im just not there yet.
Do you play support? If so then you likely just don't play aggro enough. Healing and trying to enable silver players won't get you very far if you're legit a better player.
@@Invhytas i play all roles but on supp i main bap and am usually the best dps on the team. Not always I dont wanna discredit my all my teammates but its rough sometimes. Ur absolutely right tho
Complitely agree that this person will climb out from silver.
yeah this is pretty clearly an ego vod... i wish we could see what was ACTUALLY said in chat on replays
15:00 "Healing is for winners"
I hope that Zenyatta sees this video, hopefully if they do they can understand what exactly this tracer was cooking.
I might be going crazy, but this Tracer and I play so similar yet we're both low ranks. I hope this tracer main reaches high rank, because omw they're good
Tracer, you need to duo with this Ana. Sure, Zen can orb you and heal you through walls, but that ain't happening.
the guy may be much higher on his main like multiple ranks higher, but on tracer hes silver, while there are gold supps that can barely heal and think that should be enough to win the game.. thats how matchmaking works now, like if u play kiriko ur almost automatically higher than u would if u dont play her.
Emmong is such a good coatch man love to see your vidéo man
Sorry I got your Name wrong
Plot twist it was actually the tilted Zen who posted this and pretended to be the tracer to try to get the tracer slammed
doesn't look like silver at all... until one tricking at the end had them pinned down by a torb turret for like a minute. That is probably what adds up.
I'm not that hard on the zen for the ultimates (zen ult is pretty useless nowadays since they didn't change it in line with the DPS passive - so most of the ults he previously could counter he can't reliably anymore) - they were predominantly survival ults which is a reasonable use of it.
Idk, I guess this is silver or whatever so I don't know when Zens start realizing they should orb someone *other* than the tank (anecdotally I see Zens doing that straight up into Diamond, and tanks thinking that's what should be done) but I would've expected more love from the harmony orb.
Anyways, this Tracer shouldn't stay Silver for long. They can probably climb faster by prioritizing their survival (I think that they died a bit more than they needed to).
That Zen was ulting when everyone was full HP and the teamfight was over. Idk how you can give that a pass lol Also I feel like everyone is so harsh on his ult, it seems completely fine imo. It could be stronger, but its not like dogshit like ppl seem to suggest. Its still 300HP per second for 6 seconds. Lifeweavers tree does significantly less healing than that. Saying its useless is a bit silly imo.
Lol, I'm not really defending this silver Zen as peak performance, I'm saying it's normal and whatever for the rank. Review 10 of your games and count how many ults you muff up - it's pretty humbling.
I'm a Zen main - I've played him since S3 of OW1. Compared to any other time period in his history, his ult is super trash right now after the DPS change - nevermind that there are abilities like Kiri's cleanse that save against more things more consistently than his ult does. Its best current use is to save yourself or a tank that's going to go down to straight damage. The only ults it counters are the ones that are ALSO trash, like Hanzo. It is what it is, but pretending it's not terrible isn't the play
Wish TVD heard that football advice last season..
I found tracer really easy to climb with especially in low ranks like gold etc If you can burst down a support/dps most of the time because these ranks cant position to save their lifes. Just gotta really headshot them and be mosquitoing around
I feel the struggle here is that they are not able to hold their own. At the beginning it looked all great only because they were following up on their team's plays but when they try to go out on their own they are completely lost and can not secure the kill. I see why they play Tracer so they can rely on Blink and Recall but as DPS you have to be able to handle your own. They wait too long to try to make a play and just falls flat cause they can't follow through. If you as DPS rely heavily on your team, that is not going to get you far in ranked.
hello person who submitted this! i have only one tip for you because i dont play dps and don't really know anything about it. this is a tracer tip.
stop watching so much jay3; you've learned his trademark pulse bomb tactics lmao
(jk we love jay3 in this house)
I’m a master tracer and this tracer is definitely going to make it out soon
Is there a reason to not at all shoot the Mauga at 14:43? Or is that a tunnelvision thing?
The Tracer and Mauga just walked past each other like it was normal.
@@Kaltsit- right? It reminded me of the old wil e coyote cartoon where him and the dog both clock in for work "Mornin' Ralph, Mornin' Sam"
"Dont tunnelvision" sounds easier than it is...
tracer is one of my mains and yeah, mehanically not silver but they lost because she didnt know what to do with the torb turret. been there.
I'm in Plat, main Cass, and this guy has better aim than me.
My only problem with this player is watching him chase kills in the enemy spawn.
That Zen really sealed their fate when they swapped to Bap and refused to heal their Tracer with probably Diamond level mechanics
no one in gold has diamond level mechanics otherwise they wouldn't be in gold, lmfao.
@bunnyg4464 1) This is silver 2) Did you watch the whole video?
Dia is pushing it. That person would drown against players that actually looked at them. The silver Ana hit more sleeps than not on them and this doesn't get easier when high plat low dia baps, illaris, kiris etc force recall with a single headshot.
Lmfao the zen is really something
The fact this tracer is silver shows how little impact DPS has rn.
I tihnk they're walling. 11:09 and at least 3 times when they perfectly track a flying pharah coming around a corner or door. Would love other's opinions watching with this in mind. 14:27 is one (and subtle) but they do it like 4 or 5 times perfectly. It's like they have ultra instinct every time they peek. 15:59 they glance perfect over at the turret. No reason to do that. There's lots of these through wall glances throughout the game. 17:45 they stop and stare through the wall, see the whole other team is main, then don't even bother clearing the alley (a popular way for enemies to come through) vefore double blinking in to ult. There are at least 6 or 7 more moments I could timestamp but those were just ones that stuck out a bit. The more I watch the more sure I am tbh... Each one is small but together it seems overwhelming. I tihnk they thought it was subtle enough they could submit it...
Actually the more I watch this the more I think this person has walls. Perfect pharah sky tracking as they come out of doors, always looking in the exact right spot when they get to the edge of the building on the second floor in the town section. I'd love for someone else to watch with the same thought and comment their thoughts...
@@andersj91 yeah, I didn't want to call it out, but throughout the video I was watching him 'look' at stuff and at times even prefire. Like, there's tons of sus moments - sometimes it looks like they look at someone then realize they should't and quickly look another direction. And it makes me think if they have walls, they may have aimbot , but just slightly like 15% (or however you adjust the locking) soft locking - enough to assist, thus making their aim look really good.
This is like a pseudo plat tracer. I say pseudo because it’s pretty junky. That’s like gold 2-plat 5
100% an ego vod, the constant spraying every other blink and the insane accuracy for a silver player. Normal silver tracers are over here dumping magazines into the front of a tank every fight
This guys thought process is not silver…
I’ve never seen a silver Ana hit so many shots on a tracer lol
This is not a silver tracer
This is why i dont play ranked.
Star crossed lovers, a silver tracer with plat 2 mechanics and a silver zen with plastic 3 mechanics
I think u got bamboozled, I'm diamond and this silver plays tracer better than me😅 I'm calling smurf
Horrible zen lol
That support is absolutely ass, imagine talking when you are silver and play bap....bruh
Babe wake up arming posted
arming is my favorite RUclipsr :p
Wtf? That sentence doesn't even make sense.
@douglasanderson8016 I right know
@@douglasanderson8016it female sense to me
@@violitgarden47 female sense? Lol why doesn't anyone speak properly? 🤣
The only other suggestion anyone could've made to the Tracer to help them win this game was a simple one: SWAP
Yes, you're having a great game on Tracer, but they counteswapped to Ana and Torb/Sym and started to get that Tracer picked off a LOT more often, especially when the Tracer was on defense. The Tracer's Zen was still absolutely garbage, 100%, but don't let your ego keep you on a hero that the enemy team has built their team around stopping.
AAAAAAAHHHLIIIIIGHT SOOOOOH!!!
Youd think this guy was gold when you see the mechanics but then you see them play like a horse with blinders on and it all makes sense
It's sad when Silver is better than 90% of Gold you get... 😬
people submit fake ranks/skill only to get featured by emongg, so worthless. and even if they are really at the level they say they are, 3 games later they gonna forget what you said and gonna go back to do their automated mistakes specially on different maps, i dont understand the point of those vids, no offensive but at this point its just only a thing to have for a video
School failed you.
Just had some dude say tank is awful and not fun to play and then completely get rolled 1v5 blame the rest of the team and when I told him not to push alone and get rolled he jumped off the map multiple times