DEBATE: Was Tonali Treated UNFAIRLY?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @patrekursigfusson4809
    @patrekursigfusson4809 11 месяцев назад +99

    Tonali got treated just like everyone else, so he was treated fairly

    • @hoze1235
      @hoze1235 11 месяцев назад

      Unfortunate situation, let's hope Newcastle sticks by him

  • @natheersalie9551
    @natheersalie9551 11 месяцев назад +74

    Tonali did something wrong and got punished accordingly.
    Geordie, "I think he's being treated unfairly."

    • @jamiebaker8017
      @jamiebaker8017 11 месяцев назад +2

      Well geordie is the king of fucking up and blaming others…

    • @SmallTalkbyQwertyDigital
      @SmallTalkbyQwertyDigital 11 месяцев назад

      The discussion is revolving around the inconsistencies

    • @HiiB3RNI4N
      @HiiB3RNI4N 11 месяцев назад +4

      Amazing he think the Newcastle player has been treated unfairly 🙄

  • @judeharvey3498
    @judeharvey3498 11 месяцев назад +164

    Nobody was having this much of a problem with Toney’s gambling

    • @njongomato
      @njongomato 11 месяцев назад +2

      At all 😂😂😂

    • @judeharvey3498
      @judeharvey3498 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@njongomato only cos it’s a Newcastle player

    • @SmallTalkbyQwertyDigital
      @SmallTalkbyQwertyDigital 11 месяцев назад +2

      The discussion revolves around the inconsistencies not the fact he got a ban

    • @AtoZpod
      @AtoZpod 11 месяцев назад +3

      You joking? He was actively ridiculed for ages over social media

    • @kieranj1332
      @kieranj1332 11 месяцев назад

      @@AtoZpodhe bet on he own team to lose what did he expect? Around of applause 😂😂

  • @deenuk125
    @deenuk125 11 месяцев назад +54

    Tonali was also shown to have dodgy yellow cards (like being 5-1 up and getting a yellow in the 90th minute) and weird decisons late game at Milan, these were known at the time hence the investigation began
    This narrative is just because he's the special kid from Italy unlike Toney.

    • @SirMonkeySuit
      @SirMonkeySuit 11 месяцев назад

      There has never been any proof he has bet on himself getting yellows.

    • @killiantyme6283
      @killiantyme6283 11 месяцев назад

      When .ewcastle slip down the table ... all tonalit fault 😅 tember this

    • @killiantyme6283
      @killiantyme6283 11 месяцев назад

      U no u wanted unsi he said no to toxic

    • @killiantyme6283
      @killiantyme6283 11 месяцев назад

      How long can u over achieve

    • @SirMonkeySuit
      @SirMonkeySuit 11 месяцев назад

      @@killiantyme6283 Lad just replied 3 times with gibberish. Suck it 🤣

  • @jacobwestern9065
    @jacobwestern9065 11 месяцев назад +27

    Toney got more hard done by.
    Didn’t get to go to the World Cup, wasn’t allowed to be involved in ANY footballing activity (Tonali can still train with the team) and not a single person defended his actions, the same way they shouldn’t be defending Tonali’s.

    • @SirMonkeySuit
      @SirMonkeySuit 11 месяцев назад

      Because Toney was proven to have bet against his own team and affect games by betting on himself getting yellow cards. Tonali has only been said to have bet on his team winning.

    • @jacobwestern9065
      @jacobwestern9065 11 месяцев назад

      @@SirMonkeySuit Italy have different rules and follow the FIGC, and therefore is being punished differently

    • @SirMonkeySuit
      @SirMonkeySuit 11 месяцев назад

      @@jacobwestern9065 I am aware of that, but my comment was in response to being treat differently. One of them was truly bringing the game into disrepute by affecting the game deliberately by going against his own team.
      Tonali has only been shown to have bet on Milan winning, that wouldn't affect the game. So rightly so, Tonali's betting antics are looked upon more favourale than Toneys.

    • @benjtho399
      @benjtho399 11 месяцев назад

      Tonali can't go to the euros and has 2 months longer of a ban despite being fully cooperative for the whole investigation which can't be said for toney who continued lieing while being investigated

  • @andythompson992
    @andythompson992 11 месяцев назад +7

    The clapping for Tonali was obviously NOT in any way a "congratulatory" standing ovation, it was a showing of support moving forward from the fans. He already knows he's f*cked up and that he owes it to the fans when he returns to action. It makes no sense to hold a grudge. We all move on together and the showing of support can only have a positive effect on Tonali's mindset and commitment to Newcastle, which we hope translates into performances on the pitch in future.

  • @MGJK97
    @MGJK97 11 месяцев назад +5

    In my opinion, Toney has been treated unfairly. He wasn't even allowed to train with his team ffs. At least Tonali can train with his team and play u23 football. The Toney ban - to me - seems fucking stupid. The lad from forrest gets a suspended 6 month ban and Tonali can still train and play u23. But Toney got the book thrown at him. Why? What's the difference? They all bet on something they can't. The intricacies are irrelevant to a degree

  • @ChrisJones-vf8dy
    @ChrisJones-vf8dy 11 месяцев назад +3

    Tonali got an 18 month ban. Its just 8 months are suspended if he does gambling rehab work in Italy. Also Tonali has agreed to testify and provide evidence to the prosecutor aswell.

  • @loganross194
    @loganross194 11 месяцев назад +4

    Maybe the difference between Toney and Tonali is that Toney wasn't snitched on and didn't openingly admit to know there was anything wrong with his conduct (whether he was lying or not), if you admit to guilt it shows intention and Toney openly came out saying he thought he was doing nothing wrong and doesn't have an addiction. Tonali admitted guilt and stated he has an addiction so it pretty open and shut from there, the process moves a lot faster and the procedures are still considered fair

  • @numbersevenunited915
    @numbersevenunited915 11 месяцев назад +6

    Footballers should not be allowed to bet on football, which surprisingly has been the case for ages, they should be allowed to bet on anything else other than football. Done

  • @johnrobbo916
    @johnrobbo916 11 месяцев назад +4

    They need to remove the betting websites/advertisiment if this is the case.Prem league and clubs happy to take the pay off from thease sites, but footballers cant hoy a bet on (within reason)

  • @mebarkiimad8999
    @mebarkiimad8999 11 месяцев назад +4

    Tonali's situation was resolved quickly because he negotiated a plea deal with the authorities.
    If Tonali denied and kept playing until January or whatever, he would've been suspended for three years after being found guilty.
    How thick are you Brian seriously 😂😂

  • @mebarkiimad8999
    @mebarkiimad8999 11 месяцев назад +3

    It's a global sport Brian.....
    If Italian authorities thinks that's his punishment then the whole world should recognise it through FIFA.

  • @GiniusX10
    @GiniusX10 11 месяцев назад +1

    The ban was issued by the Italian FA compared to the English FA issuing Toney’s ban. That’s why there’s a bit of a difference.

  • @Lucky-ll2cv
    @Lucky-ll2cv 11 месяцев назад +8

    Haven’t seen such mental gymnastics since Brian tried justifying why Ashley is as bad as MBS and Saudi Arabia 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @czechpirc3212
    @czechpirc3212 11 месяцев назад +1

    Do we have ALL the info? Apologies if we do and maybe im missing something here but this seems to be jumping the gun. One thing I will say is quite a few NFL players have been vocal on this subject and said that at their post draft welcoming its made perfectly clear that NO gambling on sports of any kind can take place, no exceptions so......

  • @andreacarbonari
    @andreacarbonari 11 месяцев назад

    The problem is that here in Italy the case came off due to Fabrizio Corona, a person who was in jail and he is controverse figure, so much that he transf9rmed everything in a scandal.
    In Italy people complaining because 10months are not enough and so on.. you'll understand my point.

  • @jackhewitt600
    @jackhewitt600 11 месяцев назад +1

    The rules are on paper in black and white. Footballers are not allowed to bet. Why is it so hard for footballers to follow the rules. He was caught breaking the rules and was punished. Hopefully this sends a message that footballers are not above the law.

  • @samjennings6829
    @samjennings6829 11 месяцев назад +1

    You wouldn't even be having this conversation if he didn't play for Newcastle.

  • @HEKTIKx
    @HEKTIKx 11 месяцев назад

    If you look at it objectively rather than through the eyes of a football fan then the olny betting that should be prohibited is betting against you own team to lose and or betting on yourself as an individual.
    What's the risk of a player betting on his own team to win exactly? That he tries harder than normal?

  • @MrBlynam
    @MrBlynam 11 месяцев назад +1

    If a Newcastle player committed murder, Geordie would say he didn't mean it. We talk about Saudis sportswashing, but at the end of the day you put a man in a certain colour shirt and he can do whatever immoral act he likes and will have thousands defending his actions.

  • @SirAmnesia
    @SirAmnesia 11 месяцев назад

    wiggle room in FFP would be nice. 10 months worth of depreciation and wages would be alright and fund a replacement. if he bet while at newcastle i'd understand getting no help.

  • @kuraee
    @kuraee 11 месяцев назад

    Ivan Toney was playing while being investigated, and so was Tonali. The only difference was Tonali was at Milan as opposed to a premier league team

  • @adamwatton1809
    @adamwatton1809 11 месяцев назад

    Toneys one was from the FA and Tonalis was the Italian FA that's why the difference in sentence

  • @nameanteater4772
    @nameanteater4772 11 месяцев назад +1

    Toney went from league 1 to 20 goals in the premier in 4 years.

  • @CheGypter
    @CheGypter 11 месяцев назад

    "Rules for thee, not for me"

  • @simstander5471
    @simstander5471 11 месяцев назад

    This is so simple. If you are professional footballer, you shouldn’t be betting on football. It could’ve been worse for Tonali.

  • @benjtho399
    @benjtho399 11 месяцев назад

    Everyone seems to be skirting around the fact that Tonali was cooperative with the investigation from the moment it started, Toney contuniued to lie throughout his investigation until he had no choice, yet tonali has 2 months extra?

    • @bignewman256
      @bignewman256 11 месяцев назад

      It's done by 2 different countries FA thIS punishment it's not the same justice system

    • @benjtho399
      @benjtho399 11 месяцев назад

      @bignewman256 I know that but it still has to be sanctioned by fifa to make it a worldwide football ban otherwise he would just be banned in Italy, so at that point fifa could intervene and apply a reduction to show some consistency

  • @billyspencer8290
    @billyspencer8290 11 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t see a problem with footballers betting on their team to win it’s no different to when Floyd Mayweather used to bet on himself.

    • @henxiety
      @henxiety 11 месяцев назад

      Betting is still betting, should be standard in all sports that professional should not do bets

    • @billyspencer8290
      @billyspencer8290 11 месяцев назад

      @@henxiety it’s not match fixing tho

    • @henxiety
      @henxiety 11 месяцев назад

      @@billyspencer8290 no one mentioned match fixing. Betting is the issue and sports have rules regarding betting especially from players

    • @billyspencer8290
      @billyspencer8290 11 месяцев назад

      @@henxiety not all sports. As I say it’s no different to what Mayweather does

    • @henxiety
      @henxiety 11 месяцев назад

      @@billyspencer8290 yeah well unfortunately for Tonali he plays football and not boxing. Not really a good comparison

  • @Leo31291
    @Leo31291 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wondered why he looked so glum 24/7. The guy was hiding it all long 😅

  • @alexbauno23
    @alexbauno23 11 месяцев назад

    The disrespect for Victor Oceanman....

  • @user-kp2hb5yr3g
    @user-kp2hb5yr3g 11 месяцев назад +3

    No. Gambling is immoral. Full stop.

    • @rickycampbell7417
      @rickycampbell7417 11 месяцев назад

      Don't be so stupid

    • @BenLeinster
      @BenLeinster 11 месяцев назад

      Almost all financial services is gambling. Putting money in stocks and shares is a gamble

  • @geo3540
    @geo3540 11 месяцев назад

    Delulu True Geordie the amount of waffling on here is nuts

  • @nathanieleaston8144
    @nathanieleaston8144 11 месяцев назад +1

    Use to love geordie bur since this take over he’s really turned into a spoiled brat 😂 thinks Newcastle’s are some worlds beaters anything to do with his players can’t take it but fast enough to dig other people out

  • @jknight1415
    @jknight1415 11 месяцев назад +1

    Loving the try hards with the cheapest stoney on you can buy

  • @archiewall124
    @archiewall124 11 месяцев назад

    Why has everyone got to play the victim? Tonali has been banned in the same way any other player in his situation would’ve been given. Get over it, he broke the rules.

  • @CrossxFir3
    @CrossxFir3 11 месяцев назад

    Fine, sure, the rules are inconsistent. But at the end of the day 10 months isn't outrageous for a bettin ban. Betting needs to be stamped out of the game.

  • @Howyanow
    @Howyanow 11 месяцев назад

    When you take a big punt and you’re banned for 10 months, that’s tonali 🇮🇹

  • @jamiebaker8017
    @jamiebaker8017 11 месяцев назад

    I expect nothing less from Geordie… the king of fucking up, blaming someone else for it and saying he’s being treated unfairly…. 😂

  • @I_will_make_it
    @I_will_make_it 11 месяцев назад

    If Sterling got a 10 month bam Geordie wouldn't bat an eye
    He'd say it's good for Chelsea and Sterling should Retire

  • @Cesarr_08
    @Cesarr_08 11 месяцев назад +2

    The reason he got given more time then Toney is cause he betted in illegal sites, and honestly he probably should have been given more time, but due to him being honest it definitely helped him.

  • @jimcoughlan858
    @jimcoughlan858 11 месяцев назад

    I trust you will be just as kind to Lucas Pacquetta gets banned later in the season 🤨

  • @jessicanoble694
    @jessicanoble694 11 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone like the video big up all of you 👏👏👏

  • @jacknelson927
    @jacknelson927 11 месяцев назад

    It’s his own fault no one to blame but himself no excuses whatsoever he’s a millionaire like most footballers now got no sympathy for anyone who thinks they can try and get away with breaking rules ans gambling their money away betting especially when they earn millions upon millions a year

  • @owenbennett5594
    @owenbennett5594 11 месяцев назад

    Toney wasn’t allowed to train, Tonali can

  • @thethinkingmansmoron
    @thethinkingmansmoron 11 месяцев назад

    I'll say this again: he is lucky he's not in American sports. Here, they get LIFETIME bans. Not ten months. He made his bed.

  • @brynbradley
    @brynbradley 11 месяцев назад

    Course he thinks he wad treated unfairly

  • @HassanAli-jw5ie
    @HassanAli-jw5ie 11 месяцев назад

    Say something racist u get a 10 game ban u bet on a game there’s a 10 month ban

  • @andrewstorm8240
    @andrewstorm8240 11 месяцев назад

    Treated fairly

  • @Jay08206
    @Jay08206 11 месяцев назад +1

    not watched the video yet but let me guess brian says its not the same as toney and the ban isnt fair

  • @kingluis6360
    @kingluis6360 11 месяцев назад +3

    Take your Newcastle goggles off.

  • @njongomato
    @njongomato 11 месяцев назад

    Quite frankly, this is annoying from Brian now. Accept that your player fucked, got punished and move on. Newcastle will be just fine.

  • @AMEDIBA
    @AMEDIBA 11 месяцев назад

    I don't know how much can you try to justify what players are doing and somehow keep saying "oh it was not corruption" ? it doesn't matter , everyone knows what betting on other football match can lead to , you are a friend with other footballers in other clubs , you can have insides on what is going on before the game even if you are not the one playing it , it's a deep whole and the easiest way is to ban it , he is *professional*!!! footballer and he know what he signed for and he is getting paid MILLIONS , how can you even question this anymore ?
    And advertising betting is not a problem , it's literally one of the reasons many of them are getting paid that huge amount of money they are getting now , you can still even bet on other sports outside of football , if that's hard for you to do then you don't even deserve your professional contract in the first place ...
    The "harsh punishment" is there for a reason , and again he SIGNED up for it , so the person deserve every minute of the ban that he got.

  • @ElWrighto
    @ElWrighto 11 месяцев назад

    They all do it. Always have. I dont agree on betting on your own team. I think that deserves a small ban. If there is proof they changed their performance to sway the bet then permanent ban.

  • @osmankovacevic6135
    @osmankovacevic6135 11 месяцев назад

    No.

  • @cannonfodder15
    @cannonfodder15 11 месяцев назад

    Got to respect AC Milan!

  • @caitlinbrennan9039
    @caitlinbrennan9039 11 месяцев назад

    I thought tonali was acccused of match fixing

  • @killiantyme6283
    @killiantyme6283 11 месяцев назад

    U think tony going newcastle lol

  • @killiantyme6283
    @killiantyme6283 11 месяцев назад

    Fake big clup .... id not take a man u or chrlsae player at villa notnone not even a sup

  • @craiggartland6824
    @craiggartland6824 11 месяцев назад

    Love the new cast of lads. Hope snakes over at the other channel are failing and these lads get huge.

  • @killiantyme6283
    @killiantyme6283 11 месяцев назад

    U shot in any prod8c u had nownu habe non