Tonali was also shown to have dodgy yellow cards (like being 5-1 up and getting a yellow in the 90th minute) and weird decisons late game at Milan, these were known at the time hence the investigation began This narrative is just because he's the special kid from Italy unlike Toney.
Toney got more hard done by. Didn’t get to go to the World Cup, wasn’t allowed to be involved in ANY footballing activity (Tonali can still train with the team) and not a single person defended his actions, the same way they shouldn’t be defending Tonali’s.
Because Toney was proven to have bet against his own team and affect games by betting on himself getting yellow cards. Tonali has only been said to have bet on his team winning.
@@jacobwestern9065 I am aware of that, but my comment was in response to being treat differently. One of them was truly bringing the game into disrepute by affecting the game deliberately by going against his own team. Tonali has only been shown to have bet on Milan winning, that wouldn't affect the game. So rightly so, Tonali's betting antics are looked upon more favourale than Toneys.
Tonali can't go to the euros and has 2 months longer of a ban despite being fully cooperative for the whole investigation which can't be said for toney who continued lieing while being investigated
The clapping for Tonali was obviously NOT in any way a "congratulatory" standing ovation, it was a showing of support moving forward from the fans. He already knows he's f*cked up and that he owes it to the fans when he returns to action. It makes no sense to hold a grudge. We all move on together and the showing of support can only have a positive effect on Tonali's mindset and commitment to Newcastle, which we hope translates into performances on the pitch in future.
In my opinion, Toney has been treated unfairly. He wasn't even allowed to train with his team ffs. At least Tonali can train with his team and play u23 football. The Toney ban - to me - seems fucking stupid. The lad from forrest gets a suspended 6 month ban and Tonali can still train and play u23. But Toney got the book thrown at him. Why? What's the difference? They all bet on something they can't. The intricacies are irrelevant to a degree
Tonali got an 18 month ban. Its just 8 months are suspended if he does gambling rehab work in Italy. Also Tonali has agreed to testify and provide evidence to the prosecutor aswell.
Maybe the difference between Toney and Tonali is that Toney wasn't snitched on and didn't openingly admit to know there was anything wrong with his conduct (whether he was lying or not), if you admit to guilt it shows intention and Toney openly came out saying he thought he was doing nothing wrong and doesn't have an addiction. Tonali admitted guilt and stated he has an addiction so it pretty open and shut from there, the process moves a lot faster and the procedures are still considered fair
Footballers should not be allowed to bet on football, which surprisingly has been the case for ages, they should be allowed to bet on anything else other than football. Done
They need to remove the betting websites/advertisiment if this is the case.Prem league and clubs happy to take the pay off from thease sites, but footballers cant hoy a bet on (within reason)
Tonali's situation was resolved quickly because he negotiated a plea deal with the authorities. If Tonali denied and kept playing until January or whatever, he would've been suspended for three years after being found guilty. How thick are you Brian seriously 😂😂
Do we have ALL the info? Apologies if we do and maybe im missing something here but this seems to be jumping the gun. One thing I will say is quite a few NFL players have been vocal on this subject and said that at their post draft welcoming its made perfectly clear that NO gambling on sports of any kind can take place, no exceptions so......
The problem is that here in Italy the case came off due to Fabrizio Corona, a person who was in jail and he is controverse figure, so much that he transf9rmed everything in a scandal. In Italy people complaining because 10months are not enough and so on.. you'll understand my point.
The rules are on paper in black and white. Footballers are not allowed to bet. Why is it so hard for footballers to follow the rules. He was caught breaking the rules and was punished. Hopefully this sends a message that footballers are not above the law.
If you look at it objectively rather than through the eyes of a football fan then the olny betting that should be prohibited is betting against you own team to lose and or betting on yourself as an individual. What's the risk of a player betting on his own team to win exactly? That he tries harder than normal?
If a Newcastle player committed murder, Geordie would say he didn't mean it. We talk about Saudis sportswashing, but at the end of the day you put a man in a certain colour shirt and he can do whatever immoral act he likes and will have thousands defending his actions.
wiggle room in FFP would be nice. 10 months worth of depreciation and wages would be alright and fund a replacement. if he bet while at newcastle i'd understand getting no help.
Everyone seems to be skirting around the fact that Tonali was cooperative with the investigation from the moment it started, Toney contuniued to lie throughout his investigation until he had no choice, yet tonali has 2 months extra?
@bignewman256 I know that but it still has to be sanctioned by fifa to make it a worldwide football ban otherwise he would just be banned in Italy, so at that point fifa could intervene and apply a reduction to show some consistency
Use to love geordie bur since this take over he’s really turned into a spoiled brat 😂 thinks Newcastle’s are some worlds beaters anything to do with his players can’t take it but fast enough to dig other people out
Why has everyone got to play the victim? Tonali has been banned in the same way any other player in his situation would’ve been given. Get over it, he broke the rules.
Fine, sure, the rules are inconsistent. But at the end of the day 10 months isn't outrageous for a bettin ban. Betting needs to be stamped out of the game.
The reason he got given more time then Toney is cause he betted in illegal sites, and honestly he probably should have been given more time, but due to him being honest it definitely helped him.
It’s his own fault no one to blame but himself no excuses whatsoever he’s a millionaire like most footballers now got no sympathy for anyone who thinks they can try and get away with breaking rules ans gambling their money away betting especially when they earn millions upon millions a year
I don't know how much can you try to justify what players are doing and somehow keep saying "oh it was not corruption" ? it doesn't matter , everyone knows what betting on other football match can lead to , you are a friend with other footballers in other clubs , you can have insides on what is going on before the game even if you are not the one playing it , it's a deep whole and the easiest way is to ban it , he is *professional*!!! footballer and he know what he signed for and he is getting paid MILLIONS , how can you even question this anymore ? And advertising betting is not a problem , it's literally one of the reasons many of them are getting paid that huge amount of money they are getting now , you can still even bet on other sports outside of football , if that's hard for you to do then you don't even deserve your professional contract in the first place ... The "harsh punishment" is there for a reason , and again he SIGNED up for it , so the person deserve every minute of the ban that he got.
They all do it. Always have. I dont agree on betting on your own team. I think that deserves a small ban. If there is proof they changed their performance to sway the bet then permanent ban.
Tonali got treated just like everyone else, so he was treated fairly
Unfortunate situation, let's hope Newcastle sticks by him
Tonali did something wrong and got punished accordingly.
Geordie, "I think he's being treated unfairly."
Well geordie is the king of fucking up and blaming others…
The discussion is revolving around the inconsistencies
Amazing he think the Newcastle player has been treated unfairly 🙄
Nobody was having this much of a problem with Toney’s gambling
At all 😂😂😂
@@njongomato only cos it’s a Newcastle player
The discussion revolves around the inconsistencies not the fact he got a ban
You joking? He was actively ridiculed for ages over social media
@@AtoZpodhe bet on he own team to lose what did he expect? Around of applause 😂😂
Tonali was also shown to have dodgy yellow cards (like being 5-1 up and getting a yellow in the 90th minute) and weird decisons late game at Milan, these were known at the time hence the investigation began
This narrative is just because he's the special kid from Italy unlike Toney.
There has never been any proof he has bet on himself getting yellows.
When .ewcastle slip down the table ... all tonalit fault 😅 tember this
U no u wanted unsi he said no to toxic
How long can u over achieve
@@killiantyme6283 Lad just replied 3 times with gibberish. Suck it 🤣
Toney got more hard done by.
Didn’t get to go to the World Cup, wasn’t allowed to be involved in ANY footballing activity (Tonali can still train with the team) and not a single person defended his actions, the same way they shouldn’t be defending Tonali’s.
Because Toney was proven to have bet against his own team and affect games by betting on himself getting yellow cards. Tonali has only been said to have bet on his team winning.
@@SirMonkeySuit Italy have different rules and follow the FIGC, and therefore is being punished differently
@@jacobwestern9065 I am aware of that, but my comment was in response to being treat differently. One of them was truly bringing the game into disrepute by affecting the game deliberately by going against his own team.
Tonali has only been shown to have bet on Milan winning, that wouldn't affect the game. So rightly so, Tonali's betting antics are looked upon more favourale than Toneys.
Tonali can't go to the euros and has 2 months longer of a ban despite being fully cooperative for the whole investigation which can't be said for toney who continued lieing while being investigated
The clapping for Tonali was obviously NOT in any way a "congratulatory" standing ovation, it was a showing of support moving forward from the fans. He already knows he's f*cked up and that he owes it to the fans when he returns to action. It makes no sense to hold a grudge. We all move on together and the showing of support can only have a positive effect on Tonali's mindset and commitment to Newcastle, which we hope translates into performances on the pitch in future.
In my opinion, Toney has been treated unfairly. He wasn't even allowed to train with his team ffs. At least Tonali can train with his team and play u23 football. The Toney ban - to me - seems fucking stupid. The lad from forrest gets a suspended 6 month ban and Tonali can still train and play u23. But Toney got the book thrown at him. Why? What's the difference? They all bet on something they can't. The intricacies are irrelevant to a degree
Tonali got an 18 month ban. Its just 8 months are suspended if he does gambling rehab work in Italy. Also Tonali has agreed to testify and provide evidence to the prosecutor aswell.
Maybe the difference between Toney and Tonali is that Toney wasn't snitched on and didn't openingly admit to know there was anything wrong with his conduct (whether he was lying or not), if you admit to guilt it shows intention and Toney openly came out saying he thought he was doing nothing wrong and doesn't have an addiction. Tonali admitted guilt and stated he has an addiction so it pretty open and shut from there, the process moves a lot faster and the procedures are still considered fair
Footballers should not be allowed to bet on football, which surprisingly has been the case for ages, they should be allowed to bet on anything else other than football. Done
They need to remove the betting websites/advertisiment if this is the case.Prem league and clubs happy to take the pay off from thease sites, but footballers cant hoy a bet on (within reason)
Tonali's situation was resolved quickly because he negotiated a plea deal with the authorities.
If Tonali denied and kept playing until January or whatever, he would've been suspended for three years after being found guilty.
How thick are you Brian seriously 😂😂
It's a global sport Brian.....
If Italian authorities thinks that's his punishment then the whole world should recognise it through FIFA.
The ban was issued by the Italian FA compared to the English FA issuing Toney’s ban. That’s why there’s a bit of a difference.
Haven’t seen such mental gymnastics since Brian tried justifying why Ashley is as bad as MBS and Saudi Arabia 🤦🏻♂️
Do we have ALL the info? Apologies if we do and maybe im missing something here but this seems to be jumping the gun. One thing I will say is quite a few NFL players have been vocal on this subject and said that at their post draft welcoming its made perfectly clear that NO gambling on sports of any kind can take place, no exceptions so......
The problem is that here in Italy the case came off due to Fabrizio Corona, a person who was in jail and he is controverse figure, so much that he transf9rmed everything in a scandal.
In Italy people complaining because 10months are not enough and so on.. you'll understand my point.
The rules are on paper in black and white. Footballers are not allowed to bet. Why is it so hard for footballers to follow the rules. He was caught breaking the rules and was punished. Hopefully this sends a message that footballers are not above the law.
You wouldn't even be having this conversation if he didn't play for Newcastle.
If you look at it objectively rather than through the eyes of a football fan then the olny betting that should be prohibited is betting against you own team to lose and or betting on yourself as an individual.
What's the risk of a player betting on his own team to win exactly? That he tries harder than normal?
If a Newcastle player committed murder, Geordie would say he didn't mean it. We talk about Saudis sportswashing, but at the end of the day you put a man in a certain colour shirt and he can do whatever immoral act he likes and will have thousands defending his actions.
wiggle room in FFP would be nice. 10 months worth of depreciation and wages would be alright and fund a replacement. if he bet while at newcastle i'd understand getting no help.
Ivan Toney was playing while being investigated, and so was Tonali. The only difference was Tonali was at Milan as opposed to a premier league team
Toneys one was from the FA and Tonalis was the Italian FA that's why the difference in sentence
Toney went from league 1 to 20 goals in the premier in 4 years.
"Rules for thee, not for me"
This is so simple. If you are professional footballer, you shouldn’t be betting on football. It could’ve been worse for Tonali.
Everyone seems to be skirting around the fact that Tonali was cooperative with the investigation from the moment it started, Toney contuniued to lie throughout his investigation until he had no choice, yet tonali has 2 months extra?
It's done by 2 different countries FA thIS punishment it's not the same justice system
@bignewman256 I know that but it still has to be sanctioned by fifa to make it a worldwide football ban otherwise he would just be banned in Italy, so at that point fifa could intervene and apply a reduction to show some consistency
I don’t see a problem with footballers betting on their team to win it’s no different to when Floyd Mayweather used to bet on himself.
Betting is still betting, should be standard in all sports that professional should not do bets
@@henxiety it’s not match fixing tho
@@billyspencer8290 no one mentioned match fixing. Betting is the issue and sports have rules regarding betting especially from players
@@henxiety not all sports. As I say it’s no different to what Mayweather does
@@billyspencer8290 yeah well unfortunately for Tonali he plays football and not boxing. Not really a good comparison
I wondered why he looked so glum 24/7. The guy was hiding it all long 😅
The disrespect for Victor Oceanman....
No. Gambling is immoral. Full stop.
Don't be so stupid
Almost all financial services is gambling. Putting money in stocks and shares is a gamble
Delulu True Geordie the amount of waffling on here is nuts
Use to love geordie bur since this take over he’s really turned into a spoiled brat 😂 thinks Newcastle’s are some worlds beaters anything to do with his players can’t take it but fast enough to dig other people out
Loving the try hards with the cheapest stoney on you can buy
Why has everyone got to play the victim? Tonali has been banned in the same way any other player in his situation would’ve been given. Get over it, he broke the rules.
Fine, sure, the rules are inconsistent. But at the end of the day 10 months isn't outrageous for a bettin ban. Betting needs to be stamped out of the game.
When you take a big punt and you’re banned for 10 months, that’s tonali 🇮🇹
I expect nothing less from Geordie… the king of fucking up, blaming someone else for it and saying he’s being treated unfairly…. 😂
If Sterling got a 10 month bam Geordie wouldn't bat an eye
He'd say it's good for Chelsea and Sterling should Retire
The reason he got given more time then Toney is cause he betted in illegal sites, and honestly he probably should have been given more time, but due to him being honest it definitely helped him.
I trust you will be just as kind to Lucas Pacquetta gets banned later in the season 🤨
Everyone like the video big up all of you 👏👏👏
It’s his own fault no one to blame but himself no excuses whatsoever he’s a millionaire like most footballers now got no sympathy for anyone who thinks they can try and get away with breaking rules ans gambling their money away betting especially when they earn millions upon millions a year
Toney wasn’t allowed to train, Tonali can
I'll say this again: he is lucky he's not in American sports. Here, they get LIFETIME bans. Not ten months. He made his bed.
Course he thinks he wad treated unfairly
Say something racist u get a 10 game ban u bet on a game there’s a 10 month ban
Treated fairly
not watched the video yet but let me guess brian says its not the same as toney and the ban isnt fair
shocker 😂
Take your Newcastle goggles off.
Quite frankly, this is annoying from Brian now. Accept that your player fucked, got punished and move on. Newcastle will be just fine.
I don't know how much can you try to justify what players are doing and somehow keep saying "oh it was not corruption" ? it doesn't matter , everyone knows what betting on other football match can lead to , you are a friend with other footballers in other clubs , you can have insides on what is going on before the game even if you are not the one playing it , it's a deep whole and the easiest way is to ban it , he is *professional*!!! footballer and he know what he signed for and he is getting paid MILLIONS , how can you even question this anymore ?
And advertising betting is not a problem , it's literally one of the reasons many of them are getting paid that huge amount of money they are getting now , you can still even bet on other sports outside of football , if that's hard for you to do then you don't even deserve your professional contract in the first place ...
The "harsh punishment" is there for a reason , and again he SIGNED up for it , so the person deserve every minute of the ban that he got.
They all do it. Always have. I dont agree on betting on your own team. I think that deserves a small ban. If there is proof they changed their performance to sway the bet then permanent ban.
No.
Got to respect AC Milan!
I thought tonali was acccused of match fixing
U think tony going newcastle lol
Fake big clup .... id not take a man u or chrlsae player at villa notnone not even a sup
Love the new cast of lads. Hope snakes over at the other channel are failing and these lads get huge.
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