So for those confused, some level of context on their relationship and the French language could help clear it up. Basically, Agnes Varda and her husband were friends with Jean-Luc Goddard, when Agnes' husband died, Jean-Luc left a pretentious note which was just the name of the restaurant where they used to eat. Agnes didn't appreciate that and there was a rift between them because she wanted to him to leave a note/say something more than just that, she was offended by his simplistic response and Goddard knew this. As a result, when Agnes went to see him he left her the same note she got upset about and refused to see her as a joke/to be petty. The fact that he left the same note there signifies that they talked and he was expecting her to come, but refused to let her in because he was still pissy about the rift because of the note and decided to be petty by saying it again even though it hurt Agnes because it wasn't enough and caused the rift.
@@fareeha5467 Basically, he agreed to meet her for the filming and when she arrived, no luck, because he had chickened out, leaving a bit of a cruel note instead. He was not a nice old man.
Everyone who is cursing Godard for this scene just missed the point of it. And Agnes agrees with me... So, a little bit of context: "Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat." "[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019. So, Godard still being a asshole? Well, we have this too... "Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: 'I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance'." Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español, People have to understand: documentaries is not life, its cinema. And cinema= lies.
I guess what weirds me out is his cold reference to her dead husband. He didn't just "not show up", he also left a hurtful message for her to see when she got there
I´m extremely desagree with your final sentence, Cinema is not just "lies", its a way to ilustrate a true message that can make the public feel the same. By that logic Acting is lying, special effects are a scam, the fact that they knew that Godard wouldnt showed up, they knew he is a jerk. They used a documentary strategy to get a scene. Agnés agreed with the scene because she knew it worked, and with a filmmaker mentality she couldnt desagree. That doesnt justify that the big mayority of people who watch the film and felt disgust by the actions of Godard. Even if its fake or real, the documentary is edited to make you fill discusted. So no, people did not missed the point. There are very shitty friends, even if they respect you in some areas, Godard too its a filmmaker and obviously he likes to make his life similiar as his films. Even if they hurts the people they loved. Its like the tecnic they used in Abbas Kiarostami "Where is the friend's home", where they traumatized a kid in camera to get one of the best heartcrushing scenes in cinema history. "Cinema=Lies" can just be applied in shitty movies. Cinema=Ilustrates reality (even if its scummy sometimes) its a more acurate way to represent it.
I love the interpretation Agnes brought to this scene. She saw Jean Lucs message as him participating in the film. She took it as him playing his part in the story of this film.
Godard left a personal message to Varda, and only she can think something of it (to blame him, or not). Our society produces arrogant voyeurists, compared to whom Godard is a monster of humility.
Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.
@@veagacastro3045 JR (the co-director of this film) said the same thing. He tells Agnes that he felt Godard not showing up made the film better, and he was right. I think Agnes realized that, too, even though her feelings were still hurt.
He lost the opportunity to see his former friend Agnès Varda for the last time. She died shortly after. They had known each other since the late 1950s. (J'espère que la traduction est correcte, je ne parle pas bien anglais).
I'm just happy JR was there with her. It was very touching to see him rubbing her shoulder like that. The dynamic between them through the whole film is so sweet.
JR knew that Godard wouldnt make a apearence. All the crew knew. They used varda's emotions... Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.
Esse doc é fantástico. Me fez querer conhecer muito mais o trabalho de Varda e atualmente, é minha documentarista favorita. Realmente godard foi muito infeliz nesse tratamento a ela. De todo modo... Viva, Varda!
Pior que nem é culpa dele. A produção já sabia que ele não iria aparecer, pois ele havia negado a aparição no documentário. No entanto eles não avisaram pra Varda porque eles queriam usar a situação para tirar uma reação dela. A crueldade na real tá mais na produção do que na ação do Godard, inclusive a Varda reconheceu isso anos depois e entendeu o que realmente aconteceu. Inclusive, li isso um dia desses: Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: "I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance." Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español,
I hope so too, but it must have been a bit later if so. When she was promoting the film after its release Varda was asked if JLG had seen the film, and she said she had sent him a copy but never received a reply.
Godard has his moments, but you can definitely sense his misanthropic tendencies through all his movies. He wants his characters to die or live sad, meaningless lives. And some of his stuff hasn't even aged well or isn't that deep anymore. Varda made documentaries on the marginalized and important leaders (ie Black Panthers), films that brought meaning in sadness and had a unique female gaze in a male dominated movement. I saw her at an event shortly before she passed away, she was so humble. Her talent will live on ❤️
@@lucieblaise8793 No, so I'm not going to put words in his mouth, stand on his shoulders, and tell everybody here in the comment section what he wanted like you just did, poser.
When Agnes' husband Jacques died he wrote a specific message, "A la ville de Douarnenez", a restaurant that Jacques, Agnes, and JL all ate at frequently. That's all he wrote, not sorry for your loss, not a long epitaph, just that. Knowing they were showing up, he wrote the same message on the door to be a petty asshole.
I remember at the Curzon Mayfair in London for the Faces Places Q&A. One person asked Varda about Godard and she said *SCREW HIM* and JR had his view that Godard hated being nostalgic.
Very sad. But there is a detail: Varda wasn't visiting him as a friend. She was visiting as a filmmaker. As gross as he was, it may be more complex than it appears to be.
Knowing Varda from his movies and how she treats people, I don't think she just went to see him as a filmmaker, but as a friend. If Godard had asked him to turn off everything or delete that part, I'm sure she would have done it, because Varda always cared about people, in the end they were the center of his cinema. I find no excuse to do something like that to someone who, as far as we know, were friends.
@@matiasescalante7752 Knowing how Godard reacted to Truffaut after Day for Night (how offended he can become, how hurt he was, etc.) I would’ve communicated better with Godard if I was his friend and wanted to pull up on him like this. Who knows his side of the story-i just think it’s too harsh to judge Godard without knowing exactly his reasons.
What’s funny is that Varda admitted later that she liked that this happened because she thought this made this film better. Godard is not the one to give you the convenient thing that you want, no matter how rude it may be.
i’m trying to imagine an alternative to this, like JLG inviting them in and there being loads of laughs and tears and hugs. i thought that seemed like it would never happen but i guess it could’ve done
it’s going a bit far to call JLG names though. lots of old ppl dont wanna be on camera. maybe he had diarrhoea that day or has early dementia. point is not to go too far in criticising ppl who are absent
"a la ville de douarnenez" means "the meeting in Samarra" ! Varda and her camera and her mise en scène ... I love the ashtray on the window sill ^^ how to say f**off or I will never forget you and Jacques with amu-zing grace. sacré Jean Luc.
They went to Godard's house with a camera, knowing he is avoiding for years any media feature. They are not respecting his privacy, he is an old man and has his own right to decide who and when he might let in. He still left a message with some poetic memories, which was totally unappreciated, and it's quite interesting they had a sharpie ready to reply... who doesn't have in ready in the bag, in case you might have to write on glass?
He had actually agreed to speak with them, and he had also changed the original meeting time and place so that they had to sleep in the town. Varda also said she had brought her children with her for this specific meeting (not seen on camera) - though I will say that Godard's actions certainly elevated the film.
@@Kraisedion thanks for the background story. Maybe he had a second guess... he wanted to be remembered as he was. He even refused to go receive the Oscar for his career! Unpredictable, still genius AND person who deserves some respect.
Just to clarify, it's not a sharpie or even a permanent marker. It's a very common felt tip pen here in France and she probably used it for autographs or to take notes
To be fair, and Agnès said so a couple years later, it made for a better movie that Jean-Luc acted like such an asshole here. Dramatically his actions spawned a very emotional scene, even if it hurts as heck seeing the sweet treasure Agnès Varda being hurt to tears. 😢 So since Varda's documentary film became stronger, one could argue that she had the last laugh. She went on to reveive an Oscar nomination for best documentary for this. Godard never received an Oscar nomination, although both him and Agnès were honored with a Lifetime Achievement Oscars.
Contexts are important. JLG and Varda had been friends for over 60 years at this point. Everyone who knows JLG knows that he has, for his entire life, communicated aphoristically and, here, to Varda, cryptically, yet with a great deal of particularity to and for her. Notice that Varda has zero difficulty interpreting what Godard had conveyed. The reference to the restaurant “could” be a complex of emotions, positions, memories, the constellation of their friendship precisely etched on that glass. However, at the same time, Varda and her friend are clearly making a doc [from which this clip was pulled] and therefore trying to compel JLG take part in it. He doesn’t owe that to her or anyone, just as no viewer owes it to be a part of someone else’s enterprise if they choose to decline. Varda knows this and she is playing for the camera. She didn’t have to include this footage. One has to ask, Why, then, did she and co-director choose to use it? Her personal friendship with Godard could have been conducted on the phone or, perhaps, privately in person, off camera. Varda went out not only to buy a brioche but a permanent marker. In this context, for 5 Euros Varda had a scene.
Not quite: Godard agreed to meet up with her then stood her up. I think it's worth remembering that in the 1970s he offended Francois Truffaut with a similarly cryptic message... then after Truffaut died, said he regretted their rift and paid tribute to his old friend... then, with Varda, he made the same mistake all over again. Keeping journalists at arm's length with aphorisms and cryptic utterances (to maintain your privacy, or perpetuate a mystique around yourself, or whatever) is one thing, but doing it with your oldest friends is another.
@@drparnassus2867 All that is clear is that Godard expected her arrival, hence the prepared message - yet, meet with her, not necessarily her camera. That’s the point here. Truffaut doesn’t belong to this discussion. Conflation aside, Godard, who’s not only active but vigorous at 91 in Rolle, remains averse to human commodification - recall that across all periods of his work, prostitution is a primary motif - and this could not have been lost on Varda. Point still stands: she was trying to capitalize on their friendship. Even in his absence, she did. The scene is disingenuous and its existence is curious.
If he didn't want to be on camera, he could have done an adult thing and tell her that over a telephone, e-mail or through any form of correspondence. But no pretentious loser made her travel from France to Switzerland only to leave her with a six word note on a glass window ...
Minor effort may reveal a more nuanced grasp of the scene and its parts. My initial post addresses your assumptions. Primary is the guided, implicit assumption that Varda is not a manipulator in the scene she constructed. How odd. Consider how films are built. Fallacies such as ad hominem attacks, like the video’s title and your repetition of it here, are designed to precondition perception. Hence, the animus in all these responses correspondingly follows in step with AV’s message of being a victim of JLG’s mistreatment instead of inviting greater scrutiny. Why is this problematic?
Isn't that the case with so many artist revolutionaries? They claim to want to dismantle structures and yet end up being these little bourgeoisie men who end up preferring their comforts over legitimate change.
Why would anyone want to earn the right to be a loser lol what a silly thing to say that’s not a thing to aspire to and any level of success doesn’t allow someone to be a dick
@@sewagedump I really do wonder why you care so much? I've seen you a lot in this comment section and you seem really irritated on people not liking godard.
I don't see anything mean and pretentious in the initial note when Demy passed! JLG shared basically "an image with words", a moment/souvenir of the trio in the restaurant. He was an artist creating images, why Agnes Varda found it pretentious?!
The woman is a documentary filmmaker called Agnes Varda and the guy is a street artist named JR (He's never revealed his real identity in public). This is the climax of the film, which is also made by Varda, as she and JR go to visit French filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard, whom Varda knows personally. For whatever reason, Godard refuses to come out, and JR shows Varda his face off screen to try and comfort her.
@@jackmclean4120 also the message on the window is the exact same message that he left her when her husband had passed away, which adds another layer to all this and shouldn’t be left out
Goddamn, it pisses me off to see Agnes upset here. Whatever the context, I hope Godard privately apologised to her before her passing. He is a legend for sure (as AV is), but comes across as a rude, arrogant prat here.
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Não pareceu uma ofensa e sim uma homenagem e lembrança melancólica de algo que acabou e ficou no passado.
Nossa, para mim foi uma ofensa, imaturidade e desumanização. Coitada de velhinha. Foram amigos e foi tratada como lixo
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@@astropgn Godard não é o tipo de pessoa que você vai visitar pra tomar chá à tarde e falar do passado. Ele esteve sempre pensando no agora e no futuro.
Ah, eu acho que esse seu ponto é interessante, e pode até ser verdade. Mas ter filosofia progressista não dá a ninguém o direito de ser cuzão com as pessoas que fizeram parte da sua vida. Ainda mais as do seu círculo de amizade. Antes de Godard ser Godard, ele era um ser humano, assim como ela e assim como nós.
Why would Godard want to be part of this film, with JR showing up at his house, mimicking him and plastering Banksy Lite blowups all over the countryside? Godard is still making great films. JR is the pretentious hustler here.
hahaha you're delusional, breathless, pierrot le fou, in praise of love, the image book, prenom carmen, alphaville, la chinoise, passion, hail mary, helas pour moi, numero deux, nuovelle vague... just mentioning some godard kino better than your favourites' best film
If you watch the scene before we learn that they set an appointement. He knew they were coming, and I think he knew about the movie Agnes was making. He accepted the meeting anyway, made them travel to another country, and then proceeded to lock them out of his house without so much as an explanation. It was truly shitty of him, and no amount of cryptic message written on some window will change that.
The problem here is not. Agnes is JR. Mr. Godot doesn’t want to have nothing to do with that guy. I heard him say that he’s one of the worst fake artist of this generation JR he’s a culture vulture
Rosalie Varda reveals the truth: Production team of her mother's film KNEW Godard would not receive Agnès! Varda found out about this later, and even so, she kept insulting Godard in the film! Much is said, among the cinephile public (or not so much...), about a scene from the film 'Visages, Villages' (2017), by Agnès Varda, in which the filmmaker and director of the film goes to Godard's house ( in Rolle, a small town in Switzerland), to meet him. And it is clear that the scene of the reunion of these two great names of French and world cinema would be present in the film. However, when Varda arrives at the scene, she sees a message from Godard saying that he would not receive her. Hence, the filmmaker is outraged and offends Godard, calling him a 'dirty rat'. This fact, shown in Varda's penultimate film, has been widely used by the so-called 'haters' of Godard, that is, by people who hate him, to attack the filmmaker on social networks, and many of them even use low expressions level (swear words) to refer to the same. However, from now on these people will have to change their posture, unless they are not ashamed to recognize that they were wrong. I say this because Rosalie Varda, who is the daughter of Agnés Varda and Jacques Demy, another French filmmaker who was very close to Godard and the other 'Young Turks' (Truffaut, Chabrol, Rivette, Rohmer), revealed the whole story. Note: Agnés Varda and Jacques Demy were married in 1962 and lived together until his death, which occurred in October 1990. I just read a text, which was published on the website 'El Español' on 21/09/2022 and which was written by Carlos Riviero. And in this text it is revealed that the production team of 'Visages, Villages' (2017), the film in which we see this controversial scene, knew that Godard would NOT attend the meeting. However, the film's production team decided not to inform Agnès Varda of this fact, as they wanted to record the filmmaker's angry and irritated reaction when she discovered that Godard was not going to show up to receive her. With this, we see Agnès insulting Godard, calling him a 'dirty rat'. In addition, another important piece of information about the event is that, later, Agnés Varda herself was informed by her daughter that they all knew that Godard had warned her that she would not receive Varda. And yet, they decided, with Agnes' own approval, to keep the scene in which the filmmaker offended Godard. This decision by Varda is highly questionable and can indeed be heavily criticized and considered dishonest. After all, Varda maintained, in the film, against Godard, an offense he did not deserve. It would have been much more honest and correct for her to explain everything that had happened, so that those who saw the film would know the full truth, namely that her production team (which included her daughter , Rosalie) who hid the correct information from her, namely that Godard had already warned them that he would not receive Varda. But as she did not learn the truth, then Varda went to Godard's house, she was not received, she was revolted and offended him. However, maintaining the offense after learning that the incident was not Godard's fault, but his production team's fault, is something ethically unacceptable. Agnès Varda had an obligation to inform everyone about what had really happened, but she did not. Rosalie herself had this to say about what happened: “I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film from her. It would go from being my mother's last film to becoming Godard's last appearance." In his text, Carlos Riviero wrote the following: "In the last few bars of Faces and Places (2017), the camera captures the anger and sadness of the aging Varda as she reads the encrypted message that Godard left written on the window of her house, where he supposedly arranged with her to film an epic reunion. He ruined the ending of the movie. Probably from her last film, as it was if we do not count the anthological film, made from pre-existing images, 'Varda de Agnès' (2020). Hurt and confused in front of the filmmaker's house, Agnès tells the camera that she knows Godard well, that she loves him, "but he's a rat". Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of his latest films, including 'Faces and Places'. In the course of my interrogation, she implied that the production team already knew that Godard was not going to appear, that he had left them out, but they had not told Agnès. When the cameras rolled, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat". Rosalie later discussed this with her mother on several occasions because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, although she decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after that filming, ended up understanding what her old friend was doing, or so she thought. “I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film from her. It would go from being my mother's last film to becoming Godard's last appearance." Rosalie Varda Interview - Godard sent a gift to the family when Agnès Varda passed away! In addition, Rosalie Varda revealed, in an interview with the 'Indie Wire' website, published in September 2019, that Godard sent a special gift to Varda's family when she passed away. In the interview, Rosalie stated the following: "He sent me a sort of collage of photos of Agnés," said Rosalie Varda, who produced "Faces/Places." "It was something special. It's a secret. But he sent me something nice. I think he cared a lot about Agnés . He's seen all her movies." Links: Text by Carlos Riviero: www.elespanol.com/el-cultural/blogs/otras_pantallas/20220921/partir-godard-mundo-entero/704799517_12.html Interview with Rosalie Varda: www.indiewire.com/2019/09/agnes-varda-daughter-rosalie-interview-1202171080/
Elle fait tout un cinéma en disant que ce n'est pas très drôle, mais ça n'avait rien de drôle, Jean-Luc lui a simplement fait un clin d'œil en disant qu'il pensait à Jacques... pourquoi faire de tout un scandale ?
I don't get the letting the name of the restaurant part. Why? and Why is that pretentious? I get its stupid but pretentious? I don't think is the right word, I think
and that’s why he wrote the exact same message he told her when her husband passed away? nah he’s a pos that’s emboldened by all the film nerds who proclaim him as a god
So knowing they had requested an interview beforehand, he couldn't have just not agreed to the meeting? He also left that note on purpose, to hurt her. Stop defending this pretentious bore.
@ Right on the spot. You are expecting from him the reaction of an ordinary man. He is not. When you are friends with Jean-Luc Godard you just thank god for crossing the path of an outstanding artist you don’t expect him to remember your kids’ name or to send a nice card for Christmas being Agnes Varda notwithstanding.
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@@fleone372 I'm not expecting anything normal, I bet I saw more Godard than you -- I just corrected the mistakes of your comment. Cheers.
I didn't know he was like this. I have not felt an emotional connection to his films since I saw breatheless and une femme est une femme 8 years ago. Now I understand why. Varda on the other hand seems like a lovely person.
I don't have information to judge none of them, just because she is old doesn't mean she was a good person and just because he is famous doesn't mean he is a good person either.
The impostors here are all those commentators who give their opinion on a personal story of friendship and estrangement. It is not because JR and Varda had the bad taste to film this episode that everyone can become a specialist in Godard's character & behaviour. Godard left a personal message to Varda, and only she can think something of it (to blame him, or not). Our society produces arrogant voyeurists, compared to whom Godard is a monster of humility.
Jean-Luc didn't want to see the guy JR who was with Vardas. Godard never wanted to be associated with people who doesn’t respect his art. This guy is a fake urban artist who probably never read L’odessey d’omer that Godard is talking about in Le mépris
I have to say I love Dreyer, Bresson, Bergman, Fellini, Ozu, Cocteau, Tarkovsky, Kieslowski, etc. etc.....but I'm yet to see anything of Jean-Luc Godard worth adding to my collection. I'm rather pleased to have seen this as it has given me a good excuse to avoid his shitty films altogether from here on. Bollocks to him.
Breathless is super fresh and a must for any self proclaimed cinephile. I've he is a pretentious old fart though. He did Trufaut in a similar disrepctful manner as how he did Varda.
@@randallstubblefield1633 By fresh, do you mean 'new' for the time? If so, I think that's the only thing I do get from Godard...the fact he was 'fresh'. But other than that, I'm pretty detached watching his stuff. Vivre Sa Vie was ok but I'd happily never see it again.
I have only seen breathless so i cant really comment on the others but that movie is just genuinely terrible, maybe in terms of film technique hes good but his films dont really say anything about anything unlike agnes vardas films
@@julialastname3773 Well, I came back here to report that I've gone back on my word and bought Breathless on Criterion Bluray (it was a good deal!). It's a strength these days, in comment exchanges, to show sometimes you're willing to change your mind. PS Agreed, I do indeed find Varda's films have lot to say. :)
@@julialastname3773 Breathless has a lot to say, you just need to be a major in postmodern philosophy and post-structuralism. That's all Godard expects from you!
the virgin JLG vs the chad Agnès Varda
Yeah I’m sure you were with as beautiful people as Godard was in his relationships.
So for those confused, some level of context on their relationship and the French language could help clear it up. Basically, Agnes Varda and her husband were friends with Jean-Luc Goddard, when Agnes' husband died, Jean-Luc left a pretentious note which was just the name of the restaurant where they used to eat. Agnes didn't appreciate that and there was a rift between them because she wanted to him to leave a note/say something more than just that, she was offended by his simplistic response and Goddard knew this. As a result, when Agnes went to see him he left her the same note she got upset about and refused to see her as a joke/to be petty. The fact that he left the same note there signifies that they talked and he was expecting her to come, but refused to let her in because he was still pissy about the rift because of the note and decided to be petty by saying it again even though it hurt Agnes because it wasn't enough and caused the rift.
I’m trying very hard to understand
He sounds very stupid to be honest. Why woyld you do that to a close friend ?
thx, I didnt know this and Demy died back in 1990, thats such a long grudge to hold.
@@bomnitoperro9422 because in France, despite his fame, Godard is known for being a jerk ( sorry for my bad english )
@@fareeha5467 Basically, he agreed to meet her for the filming and when she arrived, no luck, because he had chickened out, leaving a bit of a cruel note instead. He was not a nice old man.
Everyone who is cursing Godard for this scene just missed the point of it. And Agnes agrees with me...
So, a little bit of context:
"Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat." "[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages.
"It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films."
Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.
So, Godard still being a asshole? Well, we have this too...
"Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: 'I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance'."
Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español,
People have to understand: documentaries is not life, its cinema. And cinema= lies.
I guess what weirds me out is his cold reference to her dead husband. He didn't just "not show up", he also left a hurtful message for her to see when she got there
@@tapecase intentions don't always make something tactful, wise or right
I´m extremely desagree with your final sentence, Cinema is not just "lies", its a way to ilustrate a true message that can make the public feel the same. By that logic Acting is lying, special effects are a scam, the fact that they knew that Godard wouldnt showed up, they knew he is a jerk. They used a documentary strategy to get a scene. Agnés agreed with the scene because she knew it worked, and with a filmmaker mentality she couldnt desagree. That doesnt justify that the big mayority of people who watch the film and felt disgust by the actions of Godard. Even if its fake or real, the documentary is edited to make you fill discusted. So no, people did not missed the point. There are very shitty friends, even if they respect you in some areas, Godard too its a filmmaker and obviously he likes to make his life similiar as his films. Even if they hurts the people they loved.
Its like the tecnic they used in Abbas Kiarostami "Where is the friend's home", where they traumatized a kid in camera to get one of the best heartcrushing scenes in cinema history. "Cinema=Lies" can just be applied in shitty movies. Cinema=Ilustrates reality (even if its scummy sometimes) its a more acurate way to represent it.
I love Godard as a filmmaker, but I'm glad we're not friends.
I love you as a friend, but I'm glad you're not a filmmaker.
@@ifradem You may want to sit down for the bad news, then...
@@zackcolbourne6921 Oh no, don't tell me we're not friends ! You'd do to me as Godard did to Agnès ?
@@ifradem i film you as Godard's love, but i don't befriend gladness
Don't be so quick to judge. You don't know his side of the story.
I love the interpretation Agnes brought to this scene. She saw Jean Lucs message as him participating in the film. She took it as him playing his part in the story of this film.
The note she left on JLG's door is the level of cool-bad-bitching I wanna achieve in life
“But I’ll leave a heart anyway” is such a cool move.
this breaks my heart, Varda didnt deserve this at all :(
Godard left a personal message to Varda, and only she can think something of it (to blame him, or not). Our society produces arrogant voyeurists, compared to whom Godard is a monster of humility.
Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages.
"It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films."
Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.
@@veagacastro3045 JR (the co-director of this film) said the same thing. He tells Agnes that he felt Godard not showing up made the film better, and he was right. I think Agnes realized that, too, even though her feelings were still hurt.
He lost the opportunity to see his former friend Agnès Varda for the last time. She died shortly after. They had known each other since the late 1950s. (J'espère que la traduction est correcte, je ne parle pas bien anglais).
Omg nooo):
I don't think he regretted that decision tbh, considering he was not a good person
Qui vous dit qu'il ne l'a pas revu hors de cette mise en scène narcissique d'Agnès Varda ?
@@violettrojo Heureusement que vous êtes là pour ramener du bon sens, merci !
@@violettrojo Agreed, my friend, this film is basically trash, I wouldn't watch it if it wasn't for Agnes Varda or this particular scene.
I'm just happy JR was there with her. It was very touching to see him rubbing her shoulder like that. The dynamic between them through the whole film is so sweet.
it's a show.
JR is a cynical vampire.
JR knew that Godard wouldnt make a apearence. All the crew knew. They used varda's emotions...
Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages.
"It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films."
Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.
Approximately 10 seconds later that bag fell off
Esse doc é fantástico. Me fez querer conhecer muito mais o trabalho de Varda e atualmente, é minha documentarista favorita. Realmente godard foi muito infeliz nesse tratamento a ela. De todo modo... Viva, Varda!
Pior que nem é culpa dele. A produção já sabia que ele não iria aparecer, pois ele havia negado a aparição no documentário. No entanto eles não avisaram pra Varda porque eles queriam usar a situação para tirar uma reação dela. A crueldade na real tá mais na produção do que na ação do Godard, inclusive a Varda reconheceu isso anos depois e entendeu o que realmente aconteceu. Inclusive, li isso um dia desses:
Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: "I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance."
Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español,
I hope Godard and Varda exchanged a conversation after this, bless them 🙏
I hope so too, but it must have been a bit later if so. When she was promoting the film after its release Varda was asked if JLG had seen the film, and she said she had sent him a copy but never received a reply.
@@Kraisedion obviously Varda never learned to know Godard. Or she was expecting a bond he did not have with her. Anymore or ever.
Godard has his moments, but you can definitely sense his misanthropic tendencies through all his movies. He wants his characters to die or live sad, meaningless lives. And some of his stuff hasn't even aged well or isn't that deep anymore. Varda made documentaries on the marginalized and important leaders (ie Black Panthers), films that brought meaning in sadness and had a unique female gaze in a male dominated movement. I saw her at an event shortly before she passed away, she was so humble. Her talent will live on ❤️
Thank you for calling out Godard. I thought I was the only one who didn't see what the big deal was.
Spot on.
You don't know what Goddard wanted lol
@@sewagedump do you?
@@lucieblaise8793 No, so I'm not going to put words in his mouth, stand on his shoulders, and tell everybody here in the comment section what he wanted like you just did, poser.
Bro, everyone is calling this guy a piece of shit and I have no idea what is happening.
When Agnes' husband Jacques died he wrote a specific message, "A la ville de Douarnenez", a restaurant that Jacques, Agnes, and JL all ate at frequently. That's all he wrote, not sorry for your loss, not a long epitaph, just that. Knowing they were showing up, he wrote the same message on the door to be a petty asshole.
@@cameronacaves what does that mean
@@tufank1900 probably that they stopped eating there frequently or maybe some rift happened at that restaurant between them
ha, just like in his movies
Even reading these replies I still don’t know what the fuck is going on
That door knob won't hold that bag for very long lol
If loads of seagulls and/or rats end up eating Godard's brioches, he deserves it!
I remember at the Curzon Mayfair in London for the Faces Places Q&A. One person asked Varda about Godard and she said *SCREW HIM* and JR had his view that Godard hated being nostalgic.
Did he write it backwards from the inside so she could read it? That takes skill.
Very sad. But there is a detail: Varda wasn't visiting him as a friend. She was visiting as a filmmaker. As gross as he was, it may be more complex than it appears to be.
Well said. I think people forget this element to the meeting
Knowing Varda from his movies and how she treats people, I don't think she just went to see him as a filmmaker, but as a friend. If Godard had asked him to turn off everything or delete that part, I'm sure she would have done it, because Varda always cared about people, in the end they were the center of his cinema. I find no excuse to do something like that to someone who, as far as we know, were friends.
@@matiasescalante7752 Knowing how Godard reacted to Truffaut after Day for Night (how offended he can become, how hurt he was, etc.) I would’ve communicated better with Godard if I was his friend and wanted to pull up on him like this. Who knows his side of the story-i just think it’s too harsh to judge Godard without knowing exactly his reasons.
@@DylanInBaja rock and Roll in’ as Godard sees it..
@@domoroboto8752
What happened between Godard and Truffaut?
He gone 💀
What’s funny is that Varda admitted later that she liked that this happened because she thought this made this film better. Godard is not the one to give you the convenient thing that you want, no matter how rude it may be.
i’m trying to imagine an alternative to this, like JLG inviting them in and there being loads of laughs and tears and hugs. i thought that seemed like it would never happen but i guess it could’ve done
it’s going a bit far to call JLG names though. lots of old ppl dont wanna be on camera. maybe he had diarrhoea that day or has early dementia. point is not to go too far in criticising ppl who are absent
Filming though...
That bag of brioches is by no means properly secured to that handle
I'm pretty sure that the problem was JR... i won't open my door to JR as well...
Exactly!
Who's J.R.?
@@Pados_music the artist with her !
whats wrong with him?
"a la ville de douarnenez" means "the meeting in Samarra" !
Varda and her camera and her mise en scène ...
I love the ashtray on the window sill ^^
how to say f**off or I will never forget you and Jacques with amu-zing grace.
sacré Jean Luc.
They went to Godard's house with a camera, knowing he is avoiding for years any media feature. They are not respecting his privacy, he is an old man and has his own right to decide who and when he might let in. He still left a message with some poetic memories, which was totally unappreciated, and it's quite interesting they had a sharpie ready to reply... who doesn't have in ready in the bag, in case you might have to write on glass?
He had actually agreed to speak with them, and he had also changed the original meeting time and place so that they had to sleep in the town. Varda also said she had brought her children with her for this specific meeting (not seen on camera) - though I will say that Godard's actions certainly elevated the film.
@@Kraisedion thanks for the background story. Maybe he had a second guess... he wanted to be remembered as he was. He even refused to go receive the Oscar for his career! Unpredictable, still genius AND person who deserves some respect.
@@Kraisedion that gives some context. Still, do you have experience with old people? Changing their mind every nanosecond is what they are great at!
@@kencur9690 Lol yep it's true
Just to clarify, it's not a sharpie or even a permanent marker. It's a very common felt tip pen here in France and she probably used it for autographs or to take notes
To be fair, and Agnès said so a couple years later, it made for a better movie that Jean-Luc acted like such an asshole here. Dramatically his actions spawned a very emotional scene, even if it hurts as heck seeing the sweet treasure Agnès Varda being hurt to tears. 😢 So since Varda's documentary film became stronger, one could argue that she had the last laugh. She went on to reveive an Oscar nomination for best documentary for this. Godard never received an Oscar nomination, although both him and Agnès were honored with a Lifetime Achievement Oscars.
i'm sure it devastated him to not get that oscar nom...
Contexts are important. JLG and Varda had been friends for over 60 years at this point. Everyone who knows JLG knows that he has, for his entire life, communicated aphoristically and, here, to Varda, cryptically, yet with a great deal of particularity to and for her. Notice that Varda has zero difficulty interpreting what Godard had conveyed. The reference to the restaurant “could” be a complex of emotions, positions, memories, the constellation of their friendship precisely etched on that glass. However, at the same time, Varda and her friend are clearly making a doc [from which this clip was pulled] and therefore trying to compel JLG take part in it. He doesn’t owe that to her or anyone, just as no viewer owes it to be a part of someone else’s enterprise if they choose to decline. Varda knows this and she is playing for the camera. She didn’t have to include this footage. One has to ask, Why, then, did she and co-director choose to use it? Her personal friendship with Godard could have been conducted on the phone or, perhaps, privately in person, off camera. Varda went out not only to buy a brioche but a permanent marker. In this context, for 5 Euros Varda had a scene.
Not quite: Godard agreed to meet up with her then stood her up. I think it's worth remembering that in the 1970s he offended Francois Truffaut with a similarly cryptic message... then after Truffaut died, said he regretted their rift and paid tribute to his old friend... then, with Varda, he made the same mistake all over again. Keeping journalists at arm's length with aphorisms and cryptic utterances (to maintain your privacy, or perpetuate a mystique around yourself, or whatever) is one thing, but doing it with your oldest friends is another.
@@drparnassus2867 All that is clear is that Godard expected her arrival, hence the prepared message - yet, meet with her, not necessarily her camera. That’s the point here. Truffaut doesn’t belong to this discussion. Conflation aside, Godard, who’s not only active but vigorous at 91 in Rolle, remains averse to human commodification - recall that across all periods of his work, prostitution is a primary motif - and this could not have been lost on Varda. Point still stands: she was trying to capitalize on their friendship. Even in his absence, she did. The scene is disingenuous and its existence is curious.
If he didn't want to be on camera, he could have done an adult thing and tell her that over a telephone, e-mail or through any form of correspondence. But no pretentious loser made her travel from France to Switzerland only to leave her with a six word note on a glass window ...
Minor effort may reveal a more nuanced grasp of the scene and its parts. My initial post addresses your assumptions. Primary is the guided, implicit assumption that Varda is not a manipulator in the scene she constructed. How odd. Consider how films are built. Fallacies such as ad hominem attacks, like the video’s title and your repetition of it here, are designed to precondition perception. Hence, the animus in all these responses correspondingly follows in step with AV’s message of being a victim of JLG’s mistreatment instead of inviting greater scrutiny. Why is this problematic?
Actually, he had agreed to meet her on camera? The fact that he then deliberately didn't, shows the context of him being a arrogant loser.
I have literally never forgiven Godard for this...
I never forgave Godard for Breathless (1960) I'm not sure if I'll ever watch any of his garbage again.
I really feel vindicated about only especially liking one or two of his films
Godard seems more to be of a privileged life and refuses to see the world as Agnes saw it.
Isn't that the case with so many artist revolutionaries? They claim to want to dismantle structures and yet end up being these little bourgeoisie men who end up preferring their comforts over legitimate change.
They're both wealthy white people from privileged backgrounds. Give me a break.
@@alexjohnson9798 bro its europe, being white doesn't make you special. dont know why you made it about race
@@alexjohnson9798 what's wrong with being white ?
@@АртоВэнтьфорт Nothing.
Godard definitely earned the right to be a pretentious loser. But everyone would rather be friends with Agnes and it's always been that way.
Why would anyone want to earn the right to be a loser lol what a silly thing to say that’s not a thing to aspire to and any level of success doesn’t allow someone to be a dick
Lol how did he earn the right to treat his friends like shit?
He is a shitty person, there's no excuse for that, no matter his level of genius.
Who cares
@@sewagedump ...I Care Because You Do
@@sewagedump I really do wonder why you care so much? I've seen you a lot in this comment section and you seem really irritated on people not liking godard.
Maybe he was on the Canne.
Godard n'a pas voulu faire son Orphée
i have no idea what's going on
Me neither and funny enough, I’m a french.
Como disse um sábio certa vez:se Deus levou Godard para o céu,ele fez um grande favor ao diabo
I don't see anything mean and pretentious in the initial note when Demy passed! JLG shared basically "an image with words", a moment/souvenir of the trio in the restaurant. He was an artist creating images, why Agnes Varda found it pretentious?!
Maybe Jean-Luc Godard did not want to be filmed by JR, one of the most conformist artist. Being discreet does not mean necessarily being pretentious.
I don't get why you all think this is pretentious, Godard is just mean.
Godard est le plus grand.
someone can explain to me what happened?
It is from the film Faces Places. They visit Godard at the end.
The woman is a documentary filmmaker called Agnes Varda and the guy is a street artist named JR (He's never revealed his real identity in public). This is the climax of the film, which is also made by Varda, as she and JR go to visit French filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard, whom Varda knows personally. For whatever reason, Godard refuses to come out, and JR shows Varda his face off screen to try and comfort her.
@@jackmclean4120 also the message on the window is the exact same message that he left her when her husband had passed away, which adds another layer to all this and shouldn’t be left out
Goddamn, it pisses me off to see Agnes upset here. Whatever the context, I hope Godard privately apologised to her before her passing. He is a legend for sure (as AV is), but comes across as a rude, arrogant prat here.
Não pareceu uma ofensa e sim uma homenagem e lembrança melancólica de algo que acabou e ficou no passado.
Nossa, para mim foi uma ofensa, imaturidade e desumanização. Coitada de velhinha. Foram amigos e foi tratada como lixo
@@astropgn Godard não é o tipo de pessoa que você vai visitar pra tomar chá à tarde e falar do passado. Ele esteve sempre pensando no agora e no futuro.
Ah, eu acho que esse seu ponto é interessante, e pode até ser verdade. Mas ter filosofia progressista não dá a ninguém o direito de ser cuzão com as pessoas que fizeram parte da sua vida. Ainda mais as do seu círculo de amizade. Antes de Godard ser Godard, ele era um ser humano, assim como ela e assim como nós.
Godard was a real jerk. Varda even brought him fresh croissants. A lovely and memorable film however.
Why would Godard want to be part of this film, with JR showing up at his house, mimicking him and plastering Banksy Lite blowups all over the countryside? Godard is still making great films. JR is the pretentious hustler here.
Cuz varda
pretty sure he invited them
JR as in...? Jacques Rivette? Jacques Rivette rather obviously died before this was recorded (Varda mourns him in the video). Who is JR?
@@zxjacko the dude next to Varda in the video lol.
@@zxjacko The man with her is JR, and she doesn't mourn Rivette, she is mourning Jacques Demy, her late husband
godard could never have made something a tenth as good as Le Bonheur hope he stays mad
cope and seethe
hahaha you're delusional, breathless, pierrot le fou, in praise of love, the image book, prenom carmen, alphaville, la chinoise, passion, hail mary, helas pour moi, numero deux, nuovelle vague... just mentioning some godard kino better than your favourites' best film
@@andreab-o6q “kino” 🤓
@@eka_nin seethe more
@@eka_nin lmao 😅
what's even going on in this video?
A dog will always be a dog. No matter what tricks you teach him.
Like from Jimmy Neutron?
What's the name of this doc?
This video popped up in my recommended box and left me confused and perplex despite all the explanations found in the comments.
I barely understand what this is
Godard n’a jamais été un loser prétentieux, et il n,avait peut-être pas envie de rencontrer JR après tout. Il semblait parfois assez dépressif.
If you watch the scene before we learn that they set an appointement. He knew they were coming, and I think he knew about the movie Agnes was making. He accepted the meeting anyway, made them travel to another country, and then proceeded to lock them out of his house without so much as an explanation. It was truly shitty of him, and no amount of cryptic message written on some window will change that.
comment section is flabbergasted at an grumpy old man like that doesn’t happen
Is it inappropriate to say RIP Jean Luc-Godard?
It's was him a son of a bitch.
No . ♡
we are all going to be very tired
some day, with an old body, which
will be good to leave . . . 🕊
What movie/documentary is this from?
Visages, villages (2017)
The French in a nutshell.
Meaning? Godard is Swiss by the way.
Are you gonna boycott our french fries from Mac Dooglass, Asburger Queen, KFC Kitchen’s Frog Chicken ?!!
My bad, spelling mistake : Kitchen’s Frozen Chicken.
@@lerecklessbadger2411 I don't eat at those places, so yes.
with any other nationality or origins your message would be considered as racist, but hey its just the French so its ok
The problem here is not.
Agnes is JR.
Mr. Godot doesn’t want to have nothing to do with that guy.
I heard him say that he’s one of the worst fake artist of this generation
JR he’s a culture vulture
he was based for this, rip king
Rosalie Varda reveals the truth: Production team of her mother's film KNEW Godard would not receive Agnès! Varda found out about this later, and even so, she kept insulting Godard in the film!
Much is said, among the cinephile public (or not so much...), about a scene from the film 'Visages, Villages' (2017), by Agnès Varda, in which the filmmaker and director of the film goes to Godard's house ( in Rolle, a small town in Switzerland), to meet him. And it is clear that the scene of the reunion of these two great names of French and world cinema would be present in the film.
However, when Varda arrives at the scene, she sees a message from Godard saying that he would not receive her. Hence, the filmmaker is outraged and offends Godard, calling him a 'dirty rat'.
This fact, shown in Varda's penultimate film, has been widely used by the so-called 'haters' of Godard, that is, by people who hate him, to attack the filmmaker on social networks, and many of them even use low expressions level (swear words) to refer to the same.
However, from now on these people will have to change their posture, unless they are not ashamed to recognize that they were wrong.
I say this because Rosalie Varda, who is the daughter of Agnés Varda and Jacques Demy, another French filmmaker who was very close to Godard and the other 'Young Turks' (Truffaut, Chabrol, Rivette, Rohmer), revealed the whole story.
Note: Agnés Varda and Jacques Demy were married in 1962 and lived together until his death, which occurred in October 1990.
I just read a text, which was published on the website 'El Español' on 21/09/2022 and which was written by Carlos Riviero.
And in this text it is revealed that the production team of 'Visages, Villages' (2017), the film in which we see this controversial scene, knew that Godard would NOT attend the meeting.
However, the film's production team decided not to inform Agnès Varda of this fact, as they wanted to record the filmmaker's angry and irritated reaction when she discovered that Godard was not going to show up to receive her. With this, we see Agnès insulting Godard, calling him a 'dirty rat'.
In addition, another important piece of information about the event is that, later, Agnés Varda herself was informed by her daughter that they all knew that Godard had warned her that she would not receive Varda. And yet, they decided, with Agnes' own approval, to keep the scene in which the filmmaker offended Godard.
This decision by Varda is highly questionable and can indeed be heavily criticized and considered dishonest. After all, Varda maintained, in the film, against Godard, an offense he did not deserve.
It would have been much more honest and correct for her to explain everything that had happened, so that those who saw the film would know the full truth, namely that her production team (which included her daughter , Rosalie) who hid the correct information from her, namely that Godard had already warned them that he would not receive Varda.
But as she did not learn the truth, then Varda went to Godard's house, she was not received, she was revolted and offended him. However, maintaining the offense after learning that the incident was not Godard's fault, but his production team's fault, is something ethically unacceptable.
Agnès Varda had an obligation to inform everyone about what had really happened, but she did not. Rosalie herself had this to say about what happened:
“I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film from her. It would go from being my mother's last film to becoming Godard's last appearance."
In his text, Carlos Riviero wrote the following:
"In the last few bars of Faces and Places (2017), the camera captures the anger and sadness of the aging Varda as she reads the encrypted message that Godard left written on the window of her house, where he supposedly arranged with her to film an epic reunion.
He ruined the ending of the movie. Probably from her last film, as it was if we do not count the anthological film, made from pre-existing images, 'Varda de Agnès' (2020).
Hurt and confused in front of the filmmaker's house, Agnès tells the camera that she knows Godard well, that she loves him, "but he's a rat".
Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of his latest films, including 'Faces and Places'.
In the course of my interrogation, she implied that the production team already knew that Godard was not going to appear, that he had left them out, but they had not told Agnès.
When the cameras rolled, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat".
Rosalie later discussed this with her mother on several occasions because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, although she decided to leave it in the final cut.
Agnès, who died almost two years after that filming, ended up understanding what her old friend was doing, or so she thought.
“I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film from her. It would go from being my mother's last film to becoming Godard's last appearance."
Rosalie Varda Interview - Godard sent a gift to the family when Agnès Varda passed away!
In addition, Rosalie Varda revealed, in an interview with the 'Indie Wire' website, published in September 2019, that Godard sent a special gift to Varda's family when she passed away. In the interview, Rosalie stated the following:
"He sent me a sort of collage of photos of Agnés," said Rosalie Varda, who produced "Faces/Places." "It was something special. It's a secret. But he sent me something nice. I think he cared a lot about Agnés . He's seen all her movies."
Links:
Text by Carlos Riviero:
www.elespanol.com/el-cultural/blogs/otras_pantallas/20220921/partir-godard-mundo-entero/704799517_12.html
Interview with Rosalie Varda:
www.indiewire.com/2019/09/agnes-varda-daughter-rosalie-interview-1202171080/
Dearest Agnes...
Human all too human.
Elle fait tout un cinéma en disant que ce n'est pas très drôle, mais ça n'avait rien de drôle, Jean-Luc lui a simplement fait un clin d'œil en disant qu'il pensait à Jacques... pourquoi faire de tout un scandale ?
Two of the greats of cinema had a difference, what about us?? These two filmmakers are still immortal
I don't get the letting the name of the restaurant part. Why? and Why is that pretentious? I get its stupid but pretentious? I don't think is the right word, I think
Même si j'aime les films de ce réalisateur, je dis merci à Durendal pour l'information sur son compte Twitter.
Godard could even make a good scene in someone else’s bad movie 🥲
Godard ne joue pas le jeu il et authentique
YOU LEAVE AGNES VARDA ALONE
Godard prove to be one of those snob intellectual artists who are becoming bitter and arrogant when they grow old
Although jean-luc is incredibly rude but maybe he's not interested in hanging out with hacks like JR
If so, he could have least said this over the phone? He knew they were both coming, despite telling them it was fine. Godard was being a creep.
i don't get it. why is she upset? Not enough information.
Oh no, Godard won't let in this reality show bullshit. Agnes and the guy are a really obnoxious pair.
Truffaut>
nooo :,( varda deserved better
It just seems to me he didn’t want to be on camera.
and that’s why he wrote the exact same message he told her when her husband passed away? nah he’s a pos that’s emboldened by all the film nerds who proclaim him as a god
thank you!
So knowing they had requested an interview beforehand, he couldn't have just not agreed to the meeting? He also left that note on purpose, to hurt her. Stop defending this pretentious bore.
Say I am a good friend of yours. I show up at your house with national tv without even having announced myself. What would you do ?
It was not a national TV. It was for a film of her and the cameraman was her son. And Godard did agree before.
@ Right on the spot. You are expecting from him the reaction of an ordinary man. He is not. When you are friends with Jean-Luc Godard you just thank god for crossing the path of an outstanding artist you don’t expect him to remember your kids’ name or to send a nice card for Christmas being Agnes Varda notwithstanding.
@@fleone372 I'm not expecting anything normal, I bet I saw more Godard than you -- I just corrected the mistakes of your comment. Cheers.
@ you leave me breathless ahh
National tv...it was just one camera?!?
I need context
I didn't know he was like this. I have not felt an emotional connection to his films since I saw breatheless and une femme est une femme 8 years ago. Now I understand why. Varda on the other hand seems like a lovely person.
She is. Notoriously friendly and sensible. And everybody in France knows JLG is a terrible jerk.
what is the context of this?
RIP Godard. A lot of pretentious losers here, but he wasn’t one of them.
Based Godard, he's no simp
Maybe he dont like herz
we're getting one side of the story.
rest in pain goddard i will never forgive you for what you did to miss varda
I don't have information to judge none of them, just because she is old doesn't mean she was a good person and just because he is famous doesn't mean he is a good person either.
The impostors here are all those commentators who give their opinion on a personal story of friendship and estrangement. It is not because JR and Varda had the bad taste to film this episode that everyone can become a specialist in Godard's character & behaviour. Godard left a personal message to Varda, and only she can think something of it (to blame him, or not). Our society produces arrogant voyeurists, compared to whom Godard is a monster of humility.
Ok i don't get it. Context?
Next time go without a camera
Even though it is crappy behaviour from JLG, I agree with that.
He agreed to it
Jean-Luc didn't want to see the guy JR who was with Vardas. Godard never wanted to be associated with people who doesn’t respect his art. This guy is a fake urban artist who probably never read L’odessey d’omer that Godard is talking about in Le mépris
HOLA nICO
RIP
Huh
This looks like it was filmed circa 2000 at the earliest, how is it he looks 35 years old?
I have to say I love Dreyer, Bresson, Bergman, Fellini, Ozu, Cocteau, Tarkovsky, Kieslowski, etc. etc.....but I'm yet to see anything of Jean-Luc Godard worth adding to my collection. I'm rather pleased to have seen this as it has given me a good excuse to avoid his shitty films altogether from here on. Bollocks to him.
Breathless is super fresh and a must for any self proclaimed cinephile. I've he is a pretentious old fart though. He did Trufaut in a similar disrepctful manner as how he did Varda.
@@randallstubblefield1633 By fresh, do you mean 'new' for the time? If so, I think that's the only thing I do get from Godard...the fact he was 'fresh'. But other than that, I'm pretty detached watching his stuff. Vivre Sa Vie was ok but I'd happily never see it again.
I have only seen breathless so i cant really comment on the others but that movie is just genuinely terrible, maybe in terms of film technique hes good but his films dont really say anything about anything unlike agnes vardas films
@@julialastname3773 Well, I came back here to report that I've gone back on my word and bought Breathless on Criterion Bluray (it was a good deal!). It's a strength these days, in comment exchanges, to show sometimes you're willing to change your mind.
PS Agreed, I do indeed find Varda's films have lot to say. :)
@@julialastname3773 Breathless has a lot to say, you just need to be a major in postmodern philosophy and post-structuralism. That's all Godard expects from you!
What movie is it?
visages villages, last movie from Agnès varda
That dude is a new wave french director and male, of course he is pretentious
what movie is this??
Faces Places
@@jesusanaya
thank you.i miss him.
what is this from?
Faces, Places
Change this video's title as a mark of respect !!!
il aimait se goder