SHIP WHEN READY! TC Electronic 2290p

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

Комментарии • 113

  • @standingbadger
    @standingbadger Год назад +7

    This is the acid test I wanted to see on this piece of gear, because most, but not all, other reviewers have just been swooning over it. Thanks Henning! I've been using TC Electronics gear for decades and hope to see an improved version of this pedal in my hands at some point, thanks to this review.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад +2

      I am sure that all these things will be fixed very easily

  • @mars6433
    @mars6433 Год назад +2

    THIS, is the greatest channel on MySpace !

  • @ShawnTubbs
    @ShawnTubbs Год назад +6

    The 2290 was my "go-to" delay for years. It's a very complicated delay and sounds awesome. I used the rack unit for years and it's not intuitive but it sure sounds killer!! Great video Henning!

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад +1

      thanks Shawn, maybe YOU would be the guy to do a video manual for them!

    • @ShawnTubbs
      @ShawnTubbs Год назад

      Well, I still don't understand all of the functionality of the 2290. The hardest thing for me to articulate, back when I was building 2290's into racks for customers was the fact that the 2290 isn't "true stereo" It's modulating a mono delay from left to right...
      @@EytschPi42

    • @pabcrane
      @pabcrane Год назад

      ​@@EytschPi42- that's a great point; I wonder why TC hasn't done a video manual, given that they haven't gotten around to a written one? It certainly seems complicated enough to warrant one!

    • @ProfVonW
      @ProfVonW Год назад

      @@pabcranethey recommended an interim solution of using the original rack unit manual, available online.

  • @DeathMetalGuitar
    @DeathMetalGuitar Год назад +1

    Henning insanely honest video. i love the stark honesty - these days i don't see (or expect) anything but "how great" (insert piece of gear here) sounds.
    thank you. beta or not - you are my "go to" gear demo reviewer - CHEERS SIR!

  • @GearSmackMusic
    @GearSmackMusic Год назад +3

    I bought the Boss SDE-3000 when it was released, which was only a few weeks before this came out. At first I felt regret because of the pricing difference but after seeing videos, I'm glad I went with the SDE-3000.

    • @MrJackrockerman
      @MrJackrockerman Год назад +1

      SDE sounds clearly more delicious.. that why EVH uses it .

  • @U2WB
    @U2WB Год назад

    Thanks for yet another outstanding review ! I just subscribed !

  • @Sooth_Sayer
    @Sooth_Sayer Год назад +1

    Get it now, nothing touches this delay. I have two and they are just amazing. best solution I have found to get OG rack tones

  • @KelvynTaylor
    @KelvynTaylor Год назад +1

    Got one of these the other day and was baffled by the bank up/down nonsense - thanks for explaining that! Hope they fix it soon!

    • @KelvynTaylor
      @KelvynTaylor Год назад +1

      And they suggest using the 1985 manual, but they don't even have it on their website 😀

    • @KelvynTaylor
      @KelvynTaylor Год назад +2

      There is now an update (1.08) that fixes the triplet bug

  • @quocpham8738
    @quocpham8738 Год назад +1

    Thank u for the frustration over lack of a manual. I bought it also and loving the sounds but damn I need a manual! I think the only people breezing through this are the ones that used the original 2290.

  • @joeblack9307
    @joeblack9307 8 месяцев назад

    I really love your reviews Henning (you really can't beat honesty - well done my friend). NOW !!! (Here we go) when these sound/product/electronic chip designers & programmers all sit down and work out the various designs & features (which have to cover all the externals & internals) of these boxes, they will be working to a design brief (I am a design engineer myself ... but not in this industry) they must know how it is going to do this and that with what button to press for each and every parameter ?? Otherwise how the hell can anyone test the unit or even make the initial presets ?? This knowledge must all be under one roof & building (and that's the TC Electronic roof & building) ... therefore how is it so difficult to write a manual !! As Henning says it's a really great box that sounds amazing (I have purchased one myself and yes ... I'm getting nowhere with it). Supposing Apple, Sony or Samsung with there latest phone just release it onto the market with no tutorials or help guides ... just a quick start on how to charge the unit and switch it on. How good would that be, or more to the point how "S#IT" would that be. The RUclips videos and interviews with the Swedish guy from TC playing his guitar (and dare I say it wearing that stupid Allegro car Tee-shirt) are as much use as a "CHOCOLATE TEA POT" ... Come on guys this is a great product, stop the "bull-shit" and give us all a fighting chance to understand this pedal with a proper (PDF) manual !!! This product, like it's sibling 2290 rack could become a "cult (not C#NT) item/product" ... Hey ... TC, let's put this another way, it's like trying to drive a vehicle in a foreign city without directions & sign posts! You are currently doing yourselves an injustice and killing the product in this manner ... As Henning and all of us are saying "WRITE US A f#CKING MANUAL" ... Rant NOT over until we get a manual. As for you Henning keep up the great work ... and FYI ... I do laugh at your jokes.

  • @daviddowling8015
    @daviddowling8015 Год назад +8

    in TC's defense, they made a couple videos that explain a lot of the functions. But, yeah, there should be a manual. And all manufacturers should go back to including printed manuals.

    • @gotguitar
      @gotguitar Год назад

      As someone who’s written manuals for various DAWs, plugins and hardware, I agree.
      Problem is most musicians still will not read it. 🤣🤣🤣🤷🏽‍♂️ #rtfm

  • @alexoftheway8169
    @alexoftheway8169 10 месяцев назад +1

    You know Henning, I really wish that you didn't say that you were the guy to write the manual for this thing because this side of the screen it really looks like you could be. It would be great if they paid you to go write that manual! I couldn't blame you for not wanting to though. Great video as usual! Keep up the good work.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks!
      I think i probably could... with examples and workflows.
      BUT I think there are many more people out there who know the 2290 much better than I do.
      Also... it would take a lot of time and they wouldn't want to compensate me for that like I would like to.

  • @benfowler2127
    @benfowler2127 Год назад +1

    17:48 the tapping made me think of El Ten Eleven

  • @TB-Glove
    @TB-Glove Год назад +4

    This is VERY TC. They are like the Saab of audio gear. More interested in doing things their own way than making sure everything is right in the design. I have an amazing audio interface by them called the Impact Twin. The mic preamps in it are stellar, it has great built in DSP, amazing product. Incredibly well made. But it's not ASIO, so it requires drivers. Drivers that they just stopped updating. So now I can't use it, can't sell it, but knowing how good it is I can't even throw it away! Every time I see it I know why I have never bought another TC product. This product is now 10 years old, you'd think TC would learn. They didn't. Same shiz different decade. What ever happened to Saab anyway?

  • @BillyFoppiano
    @BillyFoppiano 4 месяца назад

    Where did you find the list of presets? I looked on the rack, plug-in...can't find it. Thank you Henning!

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  4 месяца назад

      Can’t remember… maybe the manual?

  • @MrColmdonnelly
    @MrColmdonnelly 6 дней назад

    Did TC ever respond to the critique? I just got hold of one of these 2nd hand, and it's both great and frustrating in equal measure. Even just working out how to switch from true to buffered bypass.....is it in the manual? Oh, you mean the quick start guide? No.
    I've also had an error code......that TC Electronic haven't published

  • @RaxFx
    @RaxFx Год назад +1

    There's a cheat sheet out there for the original with a ton of cool settings. Back in the 80's we used that to help when using in FOH racks

  • @tostrmofo6686
    @tostrmofo6686 Год назад +4

    Great sounds. I have to confess I don't understand how it works.

  • @illgottengains1314
    @illgottengains1314 Год назад +4

    I’m very attracted to this pedal, it seems quite unique and special.
    The H90 would be nice to have but far too expensive for something I might use once or twice a month.
    Anyway, like you said..
    “It needs a manual, c*nt”
    Harsh but true

  • @TheFunnyzach
    @TheFunnyzach Год назад

    Can’t wait to hear and see your take on the boss IR-2. I turn to your reviews for a full unbiased and detailed opinion on what’s good and what could use work on a product

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад +1

      Boss rarely works with me.

  • @simondixon6761
    @simondixon6761 Год назад

    Sounds killer Henning! Man that guitar is very pink. Great clean tones though.

  • @pijusfurmaniukas6972
    @pijusfurmaniukas6972 Год назад +1

    Hey man, any chance you're doing a video on the new boss ir2. I trust your opinion and would like to see what you think of it compared to other similar pedals.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад

      doesn't look like it... Boss rarely books me for reviews

    • @pijusfurmaniukas6972
      @pijusfurmaniukas6972 Год назад +1

      @@EytschPi42 Ah sickening. It's difficult to get an idea of the actual pros and cons of these pedals from other reviews. Always found your reviews very good for being able to compare pedals with each other

    • @pabcrane
      @pabcrane Год назад

      ​@@pijusfurmaniukas6972- I know that they are demoing for sales but Anderton's put out a video on the IR-2 yesterday which goes through the main functions - no deep dive into all of it however. It looks quite a neat, very useable little box.
      (Obviously not as in depth or unbiased as Henning's would have been though!)

    • @ProfVonW
      @ProfVonW Год назад

      @@EytschPi42shouldn’t be a barrier. Relatively inexpensive. Just need to buy one and review it.

  • @robertaugustine5350
    @robertaugustine5350 Год назад +5

    I’ve owned two TC Electronics devices over the last 10 years. A 250W bass amp and the john Petrucci chorus/mod pedal. The amp was great for home practice but overwhelming hated by everyone in my band for live gigs (sold it and upgraded to a Hartke). The JP signature pedal was amazing until it stopped working. It never left my home studio, so it cant be blamed on road rigors. I attempted to get it repaired and it was a worse experience than going to the dentist, DMV and Post Office on the same day. Shame on TC for such a pathetic customer service experience. It’s still on my desk as a paper weight. Not spending another dime on any of their products as a result of that interaction with them.

  • @LukeGreck
    @LukeGreck Год назад

    Gavit Beckham
    I cannot unsee this 😨

  • @carwynvan
    @carwynvan Год назад

    Been watching this with wireless headphones whilst doing the dishes and some of these sounds just messed with my head 😅 those hard L/R ping pong pans screwed with me

  • @locutis3311
    @locutis3311 Год назад +2

    How interesting they didn't post you're in-depth video on their website ...cause you told the truth! but they posted everyone else's.

    • @alward6700
      @alward6700 Год назад +1

      He will help them make it the way it should have been from the get-go when they release the next firmware update I hope

  • @saarangnarayan123
    @saarangnarayan123 Год назад +1

    Just came here to say that we all need a little bit of Immanuel Kant.

  • @Andy_Yates
    @Andy_Yates Год назад

    Sounds fantastic, looks frustrating to figure out. Maybe they're planning a Truefire course on it 😂

  • @jimshomestudio
    @jimshomestudio Год назад

    Henning, you did a great job. Not many products come with manuals these days. Discovery is something we are used to. Perhaps it helps us bond with certain sounds, I don’t know the logic, perhaps it’s impossible to write up a manual and then it doesn’t keep up with updates, making revisions/reprints costly.
    $350 is an incredible price for the features. Thank you TC. For me, devices on the floor is a deal breaker. I’m not into pedals, hard to reach, hard to use. But I have always loved 2290 sounds and still use 1210. Perhaps a 1U 2290 would be welcomed? If there were a 1U 19” 2290 I would probably buy, especially at this price range.
    Hope it finds a permanent home in your studio.

    • @zenlandzipline
      @zenlandzipline Год назад

      A 1U rack version of it would be the best thing ever in the entire world (almost). I’m also a 1210 owner. Not much of a manual was made for those, either. (I have the brief thing floating around that shows some examples of settings for chorus and doubling and spatial and flange, and vaguely explains the 4 input select buttons.)
      I would pay good money for a 1U version of the 2290, even if they had to simplify it a little.

    • @jimshomestudio
      @jimshomestudio Год назад

      @@zenlandzipline Yep, sounds like you have the 1210 manual. The difference between the modern 2290 and the classic is the old one was all analog and this is a digital port, with features to match minus the preamp and transformer. Some people really liked the preamp portion of the 2290 and the MIDI hub functions. Of course, I like the delays. A 1U version would be similar to this pedal, all digital, no transformer. If it were priced fair I would buy. (Oops, did I say all analog? Silly me)

    • @martine.210
      @martine.210 Год назад +1

      To my knowledge the D Two included all the 2290 algorithms.

    • @zenlandzipline
      @zenlandzipline Год назад +1

      @@jimshomestudio yeah, I can’t deal with 2RU size gear anymore. Except for some of my preamps. But I actually just traded my H-3000 to a guy for an Eclipse, mostly for the fact that it’s 1RU.
      I also dig the flexibility of the various size ins and out. 3000 was XLR only. So yes, a 1RU 2290…I would be first in line to get it.
      Unfortunately, I honestly don’t see it ever happening.

    • @jimshomestudio
      @jimshomestudio Год назад

      @@zenlandzipline I’m using the 2290 patches in the Eventide’s myself. But Henning shows off just what I’m missing. I would be right behind you for a 1U. 😊

  • @brettmartin4742
    @brettmartin4742 Год назад

    I think the bank up/down works like that so you could go from say bank 1A to bank 6B while you’re playing and not have to scroll through all the banks in between.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад +1

      Yes, but when you press both switches it should jump up a bank and not stay on the same one

    • @petruccirocks02
      @petruccirocks02 Год назад

      @@EytschPi42I’m pretty sure the Strymon pedals, and Eventide Factor pedals work that way as well. I’m not sure why TC couldn’t get that correct on these 2290 pedals.

  • @jordanprysmiki5361
    @jordanprysmiki5361 Год назад

    Well said about the manual, bro. I know that you know gear, and for you to say you need a manual is a big deal

  • @squirelova1815
    @squirelova1815 Год назад +1

    "We don't need no stinking Manuel...".

    • @evh5150combo
      @evh5150combo Год назад +3

      This reminds me "I don't Need no stinking click" said before the start of a Song...

  • @christophervella386
    @christophervella386 Год назад

    I found it helpful to use the app with this pedal

  • @vasotoe
    @vasotoe Год назад

    Wow...I'm sure this video took A LOT of work to make. Great sounds, good price, but it needs to be improved... Thank you for the great review/manual and for keeping it real Henning!

  • @yngwiescott
    @yngwiescott Год назад

    Threshold controls the input sensitivity to trigger the envelope effect. Think of it like sensitivity on an envelope filter pedal (autowah).
    Keep strumming your guitar and adjust the threshold slowly whilst watching the little yellow LED labeled OSC./THRESHOLD
    this little LED will show you when the envelope is being opened/closed
    When using a sine wave modulation, this LED shows the oscillation speed

  • @ilmisxx2
    @ilmisxx2 Год назад +3

    Dear TC Electronic, if you are not shipping the manual because you want to save a few cents, just upload a digital copy of it to your website and call it a day. These complex devices probably have hidden functions you would never be able to figure out on your own

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад +4

      I think they don't want to pay someone to even write it

    • @ilmisxx2
      @ilmisxx2 Год назад +2

      @@EytschPi42 then they should at least outright say it and let the community write it themselves, together with engineers who designed it and know about the hidden features if there are any but usually these complex units have tons of hidden features. Really shitty on TC's part to do this imo. Btw, waiting for your review of Boss IR2, they sent one to you didn't they?

  • @mattdevico5747
    @mattdevico5747 Год назад +1

    I agree a manual is required, but it would take waaaaay more than a day and a half to write.

  • @PooNinja
    @PooNinja Год назад

    Mmm im thinking of aftermarket screen covers and attachments. 🤔

  • @Starch1b2c3d4a
    @Starch1b2c3d4a Год назад

    Why would anyone choose this over the Meris delays?

  • @Doomchild2XL
    @Doomchild2XL Год назад

    Ist der Track am Ende auf einem Deiner Alben?

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад

      nee, das habe ich mal für das JTPR Silvermachine geschrieben

    • @Doomchild2XL
      @Doomchild2XL Год назад

      @@EytschPi42 Ah, da hab ich's dann wohl auch zum ersten Mal gehört. 🤔

  • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
    @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Год назад +1

    20 years ago I would have killed for a pedal like this, because as someone who worshiped on the Altar of The Edge owning a real 2290 was a dream at best. Or a real SDD-3000. And now we have both in pedal form and I rock a Fractal modeler instead. And moved on from being a The Edge wannabe.

  • @petruccirocks02
    @petruccirocks02 Год назад

    Henning, you hit the nail on the head with the issues with this pedal. Some of these are things that should’ve been taken care of before the pedal was released.
    Lack of a manual is just ridiculous. Thankfully I still have my manual from my original 2290 so I’ll just refer to that.
    Having to press the bank up or down twice to go up or down a bank is totally unnecessary. Super annoying.
    Also, in the pedal, the dotted 8th and triplet settings are mixed up (which TC said should be addressed in a firmware update). I sort of feel like this was rushed and not fully thought out. I would have rather seen them come out with a faithful reissue of the full rack unit but with stereo ins and outs.

    • @alward6700
      @alward6700 Год назад +1

      They should realize they had better hurry up and do something about all of this as it will be affecting sales...if it hasn't already

  • @planetpjr
    @planetpjr Год назад

    I don't think I've heard a better modulation on delay trails.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад

      yeah, it sounds fantastic!

    • @zenlandzipline
      @zenlandzipline Год назад +1

      It’s like the modulation on a DMM. Floaty and very musical.

  • @kdubfromthefuture
    @kdubfromthefuture Год назад

    That ducking behavior is crazy. It shouldn’t be rocket science to know that not musical. The KORG SDD-3000 got it right and the SD Dark Sun is fantastic with the way the ducking interacts with all the things as well as easy to dial in what you want to hear.

  • @uwemisterman
    @uwemisterman Год назад

    das Ducking Delay haste ja voll im Griff 😝 ...dennoch klasse Video ..danke dafür 🙂

  • @Case_
    @Case_ Год назад +2

    A product like this without a manual should be boycotted. It really is *that* simple. Nobody should buy it, regardless of how good it is otherwise. By buying it, you are essentially reinforcing horrible customer approach. Not including a manual is beyond ridiculous. It's a bad joke. Also, aren't technically all products sold in the EU *legally required* to have a user guide, and a localized one at that?
    Also also, speaking of bad jokes, your jokes might be considered silly or cheesy, but they're not bad and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. (And frankly the moment you said "store", my mind went in a similar direction, though I really don't know how much of an endorsement it is ;) ).

    • @benford1726
      @benford1726 Год назад

      I bought some ear defenders a few years ago that came with a manual that was around 100 pages
      They're ear defenders, that manual could have been 3 sentences translated into all the required languages
      If 3M can spin 'put this on your head to not hear loud noise' into multiple pages, then surely TC/Behringer can come up with something, even if just a line or two, to explain each setting and parameter

  • @planetsab
    @planetsab Год назад +1

    maximale Florida Panthers 1996 white jersey vibes bei dem Thumbnail...

    • @martine.210
      @martine.210 Год назад +1

      Alleine für die hockey Referenz gibt's einen thumps up!

  • @Doomchild2XL
    @Doomchild2XL Год назад

    DER Johannes Petrutschki???

  • @planetpjr
    @planetpjr Год назад +1

    Yeah, Allan Holdsworth would figure it out straight away but the rest of us? not so easy. The cover is quite elegant, I think other manufacturers will start doing that.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад

      exactly!

    • @planetpjr
      @planetpjr Год назад

      @@EytschPi42 the feedback is clear and smooth. No smudge.

  • @deliciousaudio
    @deliciousaudio Год назад +3

    TC is owned by Behringer, a company that cuts corners in several ways, for example by (more or less legally) copying other companies' designs, using cheaper components for their products, outsourcing production, cutting out small dealers from their distribution network to save on shipping, leveraging naive new influencers who do coverage in exchange for just product and no cash (obviously and hopefully this doesn't apply to this channel).
    Can we really be surprised if they don't want to spend a couple of thousand bucks to create a pdf manual for a product that desperately needs it?
    There are plenty of great companies making fantastic pedals, there is really no need to choose products from a company whose business behavior is nothing short of appalling.
    More about it here (this is not our video): ruclips.net/video/p5RSIWbZ6Vc/видео.html

  • @glensorrentino337
    @glensorrentino337 Год назад

    will stick with my modern stepdad pedals. it does sound great but at age 52 I don't read manuals. I turn stuff on and want simplicity and good sound and many competitors have achieved this. If TC's audience are people my age with a little more money than back then and remember the 80s well then I think they failed. If there target audience are those younger it think they still failed. I love the sound and look but user friendliness is nowhere to be found.

  • @smalltown2223
    @smalltown2223 11 месяцев назад

    I was going to leave a long comment about gear but I can’t be bothered.

  • @blackcroworchestra8824
    @blackcroworchestra8824 Год назад

    I hate this pedal….I Need to have one….

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing Год назад +1

    Why was this even made. Those that their end product is a digital recording for commercial application will do it in software or on some very pricey modeler. Those that need something on the floor play songs and very few have the time for something more than a 3 or 4 knob pedal or presets and need portability. In the 80's Synth players had a manual ...ME. They paid me to teach them. They were overwhelmed by a Mini Moog and it, compared to this piece of badly designed junk was user friendly.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Год назад

      Well, if you are into U2 then the old 2290, together with the SDD-3000, are like holy grails of Edge's tone. I'd kill to have a pedal like this 20 years ago. When all the great 80's rack gear had become unobtainium. I don't need one now though, as I moved on and now rock a modeler, but I do see a market for these. The only question is, will it be big enough?

    • @peterknicked
      @peterknicked Год назад

      Are you kidding? What guitarplayer did not, and does not, want the rackunit? If a pedal works almost as well as the rack, then they will sell a shitload of units. Every guitarplayer that was, and is somebody, had a 2290 in the rack. So I suspect that they are interested aas well. As mentioned before all those that like the Edge or Steve Lukather, John Petrucci, Alex lifeson, Steven Rothery, David Gilmour etc etc etc might just but one as well just because.

  • @antonyedwardson9900
    @antonyedwardson9900 Год назад

    Iiiiiiiimmanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable….

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад

      yeeeeees

    • @antonyedwardson9900
      @antonyedwardson9900 Год назад

      Sorry, can’t hear his name without thinking of the Philosophers song from Monty Python. 😬

  • @ianwilliams1789
    @ianwilliams1789 Год назад

    I've heard enough. Bye

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  Год назад

      please explain

    • @zenlandzipline
      @zenlandzipline Год назад

      @@EytschPi42it sounds so good, he’s already sold on it and he’s out buying one right now.
      Seriously though, it sounds so good, even if they never put a manual out for it…so frickin what. I can figure out how to get 5 or 6 sounds out of it, and tweak the presets. I’m not looking for something so deep that I need to take a course on how to use it. If I wanted that, I’d get an Eventide H-9000. My PCM 81 is deep enough and so is my Eclipse, and they both have manuals.
      I would buy this pedal solely based on its SOUND. It’s beautiful, glorious, and amazing.
      Or, I will find a used 2290 rack .

  • @orangenotviolet
    @orangenotviolet Год назад

    Some viewers seem not to be aware that once proud and innovative TC is now owned by Behringer, therefor no manual, and of cause no schematics in case of repair……

    • @Starch1b2c3d4a
      @Starch1b2c3d4a Год назад +1

      Lol bro. What pedal company gives u schematics for their pedals?

    • @zenlandzipline
      @zenlandzipline Год назад

      ⁠@@Starch1b2c3d4aI think he is referring to schematics for repair guys. They are usually available for Authorized Repair Centers, and usually even a non-authorized tech can find the schematics for most electronic devices.

    • @yngwiescott
      @yngwiescott Год назад

      Try adjusting the speed lower when using the envelope/trigger modulations. 😂

  • @leehenderson8132
    @leehenderson8132 Год назад

    Junk