How To Make A ROGER DEAKINS RING LIGHT | Cinematography Techniques
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
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If you want to build a dimmer switch for your ring light, this is a great tutorial to check out - ruclips.net/video/PcTBwbMhlzA/видео.html
He uses a 1000 watt dimmer in that video, but you mention a 1500 watt draw from the bulbs in your other comments. Use a more powerful dimmer, or the lights just won't be able to go to max brightness?
Right, if you want max brightness just lose the dimmer. If you're using the dimmer I wouldn't go above 2/3rds the way to full brightness. - Todd
@@shutterstocktutorials NO NO NO. STOP BEFORE YOU HURT SOMEONE.
What will happen, is you will get max brightness, till your try to dim it, then the dimmer will overheat and fry.
The way a dimmer works, is the circuit doesn't see load till you actually dim.
When you dim, unless it's a PWM based design, which a common lighting dimmer is not, it will introduce resistance to the circuit to choke current from reaching the lights. The more resistance your introduce, the more current it throttles, the more load the dimmer has to endure.
Again, you might "GET AWAY WITH" doing this cause you may not dim it low enough to load the circuit with 1000watts, but if someone tries to turn it down real low, they could burn up the dimmer.
The Photo Fiend from 500px made this tutorial 7 years ago. An electrician commented that since there is no ground on this fixture you need to add in a GFCI. Look up how to make a GFCI adapter or go to the store or online and buy one. Test the GFCI to make sure it works. You can also look how to DIY a GFCI adapter. it is literally the only thing saving you if you get electrocuted
Really appreciated the video. I thought before about making a big ring light like that but never found a place where I could store it, so the project fell by the wayside.
But the former building inspector in me cringed a little on a few things that haven't been mentioned or that are definitely potential hazards.
First of all, the ring will draw 1500 watts. So make sure that the lamp cord you use is rated for that or more. For North-America, it would need to be wire that's rated over 12.5 amps. If it's not, it will overheat from all those electrons flowing through and potentially catch fire.
Second, the porcelain fixtures used are designed to be mounted on grounded electrical boxes. It would be preferable to use a different type of fixture if possible. If not, you have to make sure you seal the bottom of each fixture properly and take care about not letting humidity enter the wood as it could become an electrocution hazard.
But apart from that, it's a great project and it wouldn't take much to make it look really processional.
Good point, should have mentioned I used 16 gauge lamp cord which is rated for 1560 watts.
@@shutterstocktutorials Yeah no, you should not be teaching people to build this. You might have the aptitude to do it properly, but there are too many things that can go wrong, and this design skips too many of the safety features that those components are designed to work with.
It might be safe for YOU to use, and safe for ME to use, but someone out there might make a mistake that causes a fire.
How would you feel if you found out one of your subscribers built this, and something went wrong ? And if the insurance company found out something like this started the fire, they wont' be covered.
If you're going to build something like this. It's do so at your own risk, you DO NOT teach other people to do it.
Something like this will not be UL or ETL listed, and the way you are using the components violates their UL listing, therefore it would not be void your insurance if it fails. If someone else builds this and it fails, you could be sued.
If you're going to teach people how to do something like this, it needs to be 110%. Components have to be used as they were designed to be used and all safety featured need to be implemented within the intent of code.
ie: No fuse ? Use 14g wire.
It's really not that hard to do this right, sure it'd cost 3 times as much, but what is your livelihood worth ?
@@Mewtal8 I disagree, he does not have the aptitude to do this properly. Basic math on paper shows this is a bad idea.
@Francois Laverdure Which light fixtures would you recommend?
@@asadenning8801 Those lampholders are fine, but they need to be mounted to electrical boxes which are in turn mounted to the wood. What would make this much safer is using LED bulbs, good ones with at least 90 CRI. Cree's 60-watt equivalent bulbs that they sell at Home Depot are great. They'd only use 250 watts, compared to 1500 for the incandescents.
As always... "Great job, and Awesome tutorial!" Golden tonsils Robbie... Priceless! Be well and stay encouraged!
Fantastic! I'll definitely be building one: looks very versatile
Wow! That's useful)) Thanks for a good video, guys!
Instead of the plywood you'd want to use MDF it's more stable and has no grain that is prone to cracking. When drilling holes larger than half an inch you'd want to just use a hole saw as well. Alternatively there are other bulb mounts that are battery powered so you wouldn't have to be limited to certain areas with a source of electrical outlets. Great work by the way! Love Mr Deakins tips!
Wow. That's amazing. Thank you. I'm making one.
This video is amazing thank you so much !!!
Fantastic! Thank you!
Great video, thanks!
Great Tutorial. Wow, Just Wow
Ty very much for this tutorial!!!
This is awesome!
Great video guys!!!
to find the ctr of the plywood, use a chalk line and snap a line corner to corner, do this for the other corner to corner, where it intersects is the center, it is easy and more accurate than what is presented in the video.
Very cool!
1:54 I don't know why that made me laugh so hard. 😂😂😂
I was expecting a serious performance at the beginning.
Cool thanks
May I ask what is the difference between the ring light and using one LED with octa diffuser? Will the light effect and texture be different or similar?
Thank so much for this! Off I go to home Depot
how does it compare to something like a litemat 4?
Is the ground wire only relevant in the first socket? I don’t know what to do with the ground wire.
hi!! do you had a video of building a light with leds?...... i can't fin it!!!! could you help me! i love you guys!!!!
Something similar was done for the Robert Palmer video, 'Addicted To Love' using photo lamps with the same setup.
This setup looks great! Thanks for the tutorial. I just wanted to point out that those appear to be LED bulbs, not tungsten. It probably isn't even possible to buy household 60W tungsten bulbs any more, unless you can find some old stock somewhere. (I am not from the US, but I think the US is one of the countries that has phased out tungsten for regular household lighting.)
Are you using only one piece of lamp chord for the whole fixture? Can’t really seem to figure out how that works
It's one long piece, but you have to cut it about a foot or so of it to go from one bulb to another. So, by the end of it, it's about 24 short pieces wired together. Whoops, probably should have been a bit more detailed about that. Hope that helps. - Todd
Word to the wise: 18 guage lamp wire is probably not safe enough for this application. If you leave that light on for extended periods of time then you will most likely have a fire risk. You will probably want to use something like 12 gauge.
I used 16 gauge - which is rated for 1560 watts. I also intend to use this light primarily dimmed to 20-40% of it's full output. Good point though, I regret not mentioning this in the video.
Thanks for the clarification. Great video btw (I should have led w/ that). I'm an electrician and when most people refer to "lamp wire" it tends to mean the 18 gauge variety which is why I commented. I can't wait to make one of these though and wish I'd seen this video before I made this:
ruclips.net/video/Fai3Bkmcv8A/видео.html
A way you can get around that is from your first socket feed one pair of wires to the socket at its left and another pair of wires to the socket at its right. Then continue around from each socket. That way you only have the load of 12 lamps per line as opposed to 24.
I would paint the ring before wiring it up, could even cover with fabric.
25x 60Watts = 1500Watts, with 16gauge 2-wire, no ground, wired with no boxes + ~25ft stinger(?) = voltage drop (consult with an electrician).
Yes, but they're dimming it anyway so a voltage drop is probably helpful. (I'd still use thicker wire tho.)
No need for ground, it's made out of wood and plastic.
Hi. Stupid question, but why is the Ground/Earth wire connected to the Neutral? I'm not sure that we do that in the UK or Europe but maybe I'm wrong and maybe its convention in the US.
Nice tutorial. BTW, saw the bulbs reflected in the microwave at 9:39
You're going to want to wire this with at least 14 gauge wire, smaller gauges are not safe with that amount of load. 60 watts x 25 bulbs = 1500 watts, divide by 120 volts and you get 12.5 amps. 14 gauge is good for up to 15 amps. You could definitely use the smaller wire if you use LED bulbs instead of incandescents.
Also, at 5:51, you don't want to have the ground wire touching the neutral terminal. If it is, you'll trip any GFCI outlet you plug this into.
Depends on if he's daisy chaining the entire run of 25 sockets. If the runs are split off 50/50 from where the 12/3 wire is, the max amperage of the lamp cord would be 12 bulbs x 60 watts = 720 watts, divide by 100 volts (paper amps) = 7.2 amps, which 18/2 lamp cord can safely handle.
How do you wire the ground wire (green wire) with the power tool cord replacement kit? I'm not sure if you stuck it into the socket itself or cut it off. (5:56)
There are a few different schools of though, but I just attached it to a little grommet inside the housing, and it seems to work fine. You can always just cut it off, but it might make it a little bit less stable after a ton of use. But, again, different schools of thought - It doesn't really matter a ton to me.
1:51. Magical lighting and mood is created. 1:54 everything is crashed , all illusion is lost with that singing .... So, that my friends is the essence of film making....how good is your illusion?
16 guage wire of any kind with a possible load of 1500 watts is playing with fire... literally.
Hi Jerry,
I'm new to this and have very little knowledge about wiring
Could you please give me a headstart or point me to the right direction if I want to go ahead with wiring lights?
Would mean a lot
Thankyou!
What about like how Hype Williams used the sunflower looking ringlight in Missy Eliiot "The Rain" video? It looks custom, but I can't figure out how they got the bulbs to look like that. There are like, zero tutorials or places to buy anything like that.
What was the measurement of wood after cutting it in the ring?
The circle was just under 4 feet in diameter. Probably 3 feet 9 inches. Hope that helps! - Todd
if you twist your wire counterclockwise it will hold better under the screw
Is this lighting setup have flickering issues?
Nope! That’s one of the great things about tungsten lighting - no flickering.
Song at 6:53? i dont see it in description
Whoops, forgot to add that one. It's Countersteer by Tonemassif - bit.ly/2I0MBqe
we want more
1:54 Best moment ever
If you don't use it with a camera in the center of the ring, it will be something like a softbox of other diffuse light source. If camera in the ring and it's close enough to object, then you get that interesting looking "wrap around" light effect.
my thoughts too, i really don't know whats the difference between this and a soft box
I don’t know why, But seeing a big production using those blogging led ring lights is a turn off.
But seeing a big production using a Deakins ring light made with light bulbs is a HUUUGE turn on!!
So everyone knows:
25 bulbs X 60watts = 1500 watts.
1500 watts set to 20% = 300watts.
This effect can be done with a 47" dome and a 300watt light.
Hmmm don’t understand why the quality of this light would be any better than a large diffused tungsten source. Interesting build! I’d love to see a side by side with tungsten fixtures through standard diffusion
deakins only really uses these as additional ceiling lights.. i ve also heard this referred to as chandelier lighting, as that is basically what you are mimicing and is considered a premium look. from deakins forum regarding soft light: A soft light can still create shadows and contrast if it isn't coming from a frontal angle in relation to the camera.
@@Patrick-jj5nh probably easier to rig to a ceiling too, given its weight
What's the actual benefit of a wooden ring light over, say, a LED?
Light quality is different
@@NobuhikuObayashi I see. Thanks.
could they be replaced with phillips hue bulbs?
If you want to spend like $1,000 on light bulbs haha
Yeah, that would definitely be much more expensive, and I'm not too sure how good the color accuracy is on those bulbs. But, if you have the means you're welcome to try it out!
I have my house setup with all Hue bulbs and the refresh rate does not work well with my camera (Sony a7sii) no matter my shutter speed there is flicker. So I wouldn’t recommend using these for video
another fabrication technique, when you are doing layout for the plywood circle for the edison bases, layout the center of the circle before cutting plywood, this is half way between your cut lines. This way when you drill your holes they will be in the center. Then divide the circumference of you center line by one less than the number of edison basses. So for example if you are using 20 light bases, then divide the circumference by 19 (the reason is that zero is where your first base goes. This gives you the distance between holes, make a template of this distance and establish your zero hole and then using the template mark out the distances around the circle. This is easy to do or just use a tape measure without the template. This gives you accurate holes and takes seconds to do.
Is anyone else annoyed that he didn't pull the wires tight, and the cross handle isn't in the center?
Yeah that honestly did annoy me. I’ll do better next time.
I love your videos but please make a decent color grade, I feel like I’m watching a traveler video
Use atleast a 12 gauge wire bud, youre gonna overheat that cable
14 gauge will be fine for this, even assuming every bulb draws the full 60 watts. That works out to 12.5 amps for 25 bulbs, and 14 gauge can handle 15 amps.
you look like seth rogen
This is a fire tutorial.
Not in the good way
All that trouble to build a ring light and you didn’t use the ring light for the specific purpose ring lights are used for: on-axis fill. If you’re gonna use it like a softbox, just buy a flippin’ softbox.
I am angry.
Warning: This build is extremely dangerous. This that wire is not suitable for that current draw and will likely catch fire at some point. 25*60 = 1500 watts. That's pulling 12+ amps over lamp cord. Zero effort for any sort of protection, ie fuses. Author has repeated said he used wire rated for 1560 watts. Just because you can run your engine at 9000 RPM's for a second does not mean you can run it full time at 9000 RPM's. This is not how you design products, I would never go above 50% on wire tolerance.
nice video but ur mixing it with daylight blasting in so its hard to see its effects of the light - also ur over exposing so bad on some shots u again making it hard to see the effects of the light
Where is examples? Really long video.
Examples is in really long video. Why not you watch video before leave silly comment?
really nice video but your color grading is horrible to the point that its distracting
I have to say they went orange teal af with this one, its too much.. Amazing tutorial tho.
In all honesty - the place we shot had blue walls reflecting, and this light when dimmed goes suuuuper orange. So the Orange and Teal look was kind of unavoidable... but you're right, probably could have fought it back some more in post... - Todd
Stop it, world isn't teal and orange. We're going back to the time before color television. Jeezus
FREAKING ANNOYING RING EYE REFLECTIONS
It's clear this dude does not understand the basics of safe electrical work. This video is going to lead to some fires by some inexperience DIYers. They really should have went over the importance in choosing the correct gage wiring based on wattage you will be generating, especially since it's all attached to wood. Very irresponsible of Shutterstock to put this out there without this VERY important information. Not to mention the importance of using flame retardant duvetyn for your modifier and not just any material. So many red flags in this tutorial. Do better Shutterstock.
So basically a softbox. Blah. No thanks. I'll buy one for $50 that doesn't weigh 200 pounds.