Clarification on the Wicked question: a prequel would fall into the same category as a sequel for the purposes of the chart. The basic idea is to figure out whether the movie should be considered a prequel/sequel/remake, which would make it ineligible, or an adaptation separate from The Wizard of Oz movie, which would make it eligible.
If Wicked actually launches a proper franchise, Wizard of Oz should definitely be a part of the group. No separation in my opinion. The themes and characters are all the same.
Wicked is a prequel. You’ll have plenty of chart possibilities, nonetheless. Musicals, anything “Oz,” Part 1s of multi part movies, Thanksgiving week openings come to mind.
Thank you Dan, for taking the time at the end of the show. Was wondering why it was 51 minutes. This is the most important election in my lifetime and for my kids. Already voted and encourage everyone to make their voice heard.
@@Slaughter_Hill Yes, because every one is the current one. This isn't rocket surgery, son. It's also exceedingly obvious why this is said. You aren't dunking on anything but yourself, with this supposed "gotcha".
From a political science major, Thank you for standing up for voting. To those who say it doesn’t matter, it only doesn’t matter if you don’t do it. And as Dan says it does matter especially at the local level.
The fact you bought into the college degree scam says all I need to know. Voting is a joke your votes truly don't matter. The government lies lies lies, they throw your vote out and put whoever they want in office. They have done this for decades.
Thanks for videos Dan, the election talk wasn't out of place. I just learned a couple weeks ago that not every state sends out voter guides to every household! Shocking.
The Venom films is the most modern "I'll wait for cable" movies I think. They aren't good, but they've got juuuusssst enough charm that you're fine watching it on FX with commercial interruptions. 😂
Dang Dan, thank you for that fantastic voting message and way to keep it informative and non-partisan! Hopefully people listen and figure things out so that we can get back to a sense of decency / non-divisiveness in politics.
I mean we can hope, but it's hard to have a depolarised political sphere when some people are determined to take away people's literal right to self determine and live a productive and rewarding life.
Thank for your last segment encouraging people to vote and even boldly stating "I'm not going to say I don't care who you're voting for" bc a lot of people try to avoid that in fear of losing subs. Keep doing you Dan
@@Slaughter_Hill A) he's not "rich"; B) the _real_ rich vote red because the red team are the party of giving more rights to business owners and fewer to workers; C) being "neutral" is the dumbest possible stance, especially right now when the dividing line could not be more clear cut. Sitting on this particular fence does not place you above everyone else, just makes you full of splinters.
If you feel like you're not well enough informed to vote just remember there are easily 5 others who actually are NOT well enough informed and do not care how wrong they are and are voting and probably against your best interests... eventually your apathy will catch up to you or your loved ones. GO VOTE.
@@ctrlsilk You have no idea how many people vote AGAINST their own best interests just because they've been duped by a boogeyman issue. If you talk to apathetic voters about rights that are actually at stake some will go "oh I didn't know that?!" therefore their interests were at stake, but their apathy as kept them from even realizing. Sometimes it takes until you need something before you realize the access is gone. Hopefully that helps! Not trying to sound smart, just trying to get people TO VOTE.
Thanks for calling people out to vote. I was part of the electoral board for the past few elections here in Berlin, Germany and it is such a privilege to get to vote. I was impressed in the last federal elections how many kids were really interested in voting and the whole process, so kudos GenZ - very unlike my and adjacent generations (Xenial here). So please, americans, take some time out of your day, either Nov 5th or maybe in early voting or mail-in ballots and fullfill your democratic right, but also a bit duty! The world is really watching closely!
I'm going through a difficult breakup so your reviews and weekly box office charts are such a joy for me. Thanks for the awesome content, Dan. Been a follower since you were on Screen Junkies❤
I appreciate when someone is willing to hear other point of views as well as changing their own view because of it. Sad to say its rare to see on the internet but glad to see its not lost entirely :D
While I normally click away when movie channels start talking about elections, I didn't for this video and I'm glad I didn't. Really appreciate your commitment to encourage informed voting and to take the same approach here as you do with films: not to try and persuade people for whether they should or shouldn't like something, but to encourage people to be informed in their preferences. Great message!
Great to see The Wild Robot hold/rally well @Box Office ($233m worldwide) despite Universal stupidly putting it out so early on digital release! Interesting how certain franchises (or genres) like Beetlejuice, Ghostbusters, A Quiet Place, Scream, Halloween etc don't travel as well outside North America doing a bigger portion of their box office domestically as opposed to internationally which is the norm! Real shame Transformers One couldn't hit $100m domestically :(
This is what I commented I don’t know if he means to include prequels on his list. If he means movies that are connected in the same universe then yes prequels should count and therefore wicked should count!
Here in Croatia we could watch Venom triple feature. Six hours with two intermissions. It was fun because I didn't watch Carnage and first one was six years ago.
Wicked, the Broadway show, is a prequel in the first act, then the second act happens concurrently with Wizard of Oz. I don’t know what the film will do as part 1 is longer than the entire stage musical, but time will tell.
I feel like since it is an original story from another author that it should be considered original. Argyle is still on the list, so there is room for Wicked.
Maggie Smith passed away September 27th so the streaming window for that Harry Potter movie showing on the charts checks out. She had a great career and will be missed.
Plenty of average to bad superhero movies did really well in the 2010s (suicide squad, amazing spiderman 2, Thor the dark world, venom 1 all made around $700m). I think genre has lost much of the must-see, fear of missing out appeal with the general audiance . People will now only turn up when it is a must -see event that gets great reaction (like deadpool and wolverene). It makes me wonder whilst Superman and Fantastic 4 could do well, Captian America, brave new world, could flop if it is seen as wait for streaming or skip it movie like the Marvels..
I think with how quick things end up on VOD or Streaming has also played into this. You don’t have to wait very long to see the film, or for high quality pirated versions to be, online. Why spend £15/£20 per ticket when you can wait a month and spend less than that to own/rent the film.
Perfect explanation. I really hate the narrative that these films have gotten worse over time when there were many films like Iron Man 2 or 3 that were mediocre and did well.
It's October 28th, ans We Live in Time is in TWICE as many theaters as Joker 2. Even foreseeing a crash for Joker 2, you would have had a hard time convincing me of this a month ago.
looking forward to your thoughts on "Agatha all along". I really enjoy how "The Ballad of the Witches Road" has been weaved into the story. they knew what made Agatha so popular before and aren't holding back.
Just saw Venom the last dance. I laughed a lot, I cried a bit, l loved the movie. I don’t understand which movie the rotten tomatoes critics saw, but it wasn’t this movie. Go see it.
Voting is compulsory here in Australia and while our system isn't perfect, I'm glad that we are all required to have our say. I'm surprised more countries don't do this.
It's disappointing to see 'The Marvels' have the biggest drop off. I actually thought it was a better movie than the first. 'Joker 2' really deserves that top spot. If the box office for 'Captain Marvel' hadn't been inflated by its proximity to the last two 'Avengers' films the drop wouldn't have been as drastic and 'Joker 2' would be at its rightful spot.
Hi Dan, got an idea for a boxoffice/video maybe. Boxoffice sabotage. Myth or reality? Example: Just recently watched The Swan Princess again w my daughter on Netflix. Wasnt really a part of my childhood but overall not a bad movie. Looked very Disney-like but not quite there. Looked into the history and feud of ex-Disney employees creating their own studio etc. Boxoffice wise this was a huge bomb. 1994 was a busy year overall but some suspect foul play by Disney by re-releasing The Lion King in November after the first release ended in september. The Swan Princess was released, you guessed it, in November 1994. Coincidence? Would live love your take on this. When I read it I immediately thought of you and that it might make a fun section or video? Are their more of these release sabotages, maybe other famous box office battles? Regards Raf
The more Venom sells itself as a regular comic book movie or something epic, the less I am interested in it. Gimme that weird buddy cop/romantic comedy in the same body sell.
Mmhhh...This is complicated. It's doing muted numbers in the US but performing better internationally. In theory, it may do well enough that a sequel is plausible, but doing so could be risky cause it's clear the films have suffered from diminishing returns. So there might be trepidation to greenlit such a film right now.
@xger21 yea. The first two movies really failed on ... action and everything else. They felt generic and almost like well, it's a superhero movie and the act. Time for CGI polygons to have a goop fight. When this was all "epic finale" I was like... nah.
Is it less creepy than Mary and Max at least? I get that film is great and everything, but I cannot for the life of me stand the look of that film, and it always turns me off. Does Memoir look more “reasonable”?
@@NinthShinigami Memoir of a Snail was not creepy. Sorry I can’t compare to Mary and Max as I’ve not seen that. I would use the word poignant for Memoir of a Snail. I could use more adjectives but I don’t want to give away anything.
33:00 It might also have to do with all the talks around the Harry Potter remake as a show. It'll be interesting to see if the other films get into the charts in the coming weeks.
This channel is a gem! It's not just box office numbers--but such rich box office context. I feel like if studios paid attention to this channel--they would make better objective decisions on what they green light (and moviegoers would benefit too).
Been following for over a year now (took the five nights at Freddy’s part to remind me of that) and you’ve become a great part of my week. Thank you for all the hard work.
technically Wicked is NEITHER a sequel nor a remake of the Wizard of Oz, it's actually like a PREQUEL which I know is splitting hairs but given that it's based on the mega successful Broadway musical (which I have actually seen several times because I work on Broadway) which is based on a novel that expands on the lore of the Wizard of Oz so therefore that novel is based on the original novel that the original Wizard of Oz movie is based on. All this to say the answer to your question is no this new Wicked movie is not a sequel or a remake of the Wizard of Oz because the events of the movie take place before Dorothy lands in Oz making it a prequel but should also not be on your original films chart because even though it is a "new take" on the Wizard of Oz that most people who have never seen the Broadway musical will be introduced to for the first time it is still based on a property that's been around for like a hundred years also they literally sell the novel the Wicked Broadway musical is based on at the show's merchandise stand at the theater /so that's a dead giveaway that it's not a wholly "original" concept
I'm aware of Wicked being an adaptation of a novel and that it's a prequel to the original L. Frank Baum story. My main question is how it should be regarded in relation to the movie The Wizard of Oz? Should it count as something that is not a prequel/sequel/remake of the original film, or should it be regarded as one? You can make a case either way. It's a very borderline case, which is why I opened it up to the audience.
@@DanMurrellMovies I would say yes it should be considered in the WOO universe. Kinda like how the various movies in the Marvel universe count. It's a prequel/ Elphaba origin story... Hope that helps...
Chart With Me UK Top 10 1 Venom: The Last Dance 2 The Wild Robot 3 Smile 2 4 Transformers One 5 The Apprentice 6 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice 7 Terrifier 3 8 The Room Next Door 9 The Substance 10 Joker: Folie A Deux
Underneath "Venom-: 'til Death Do Us Part" you have it listed as "Venom: The Last Dance" along with the opening weekend box-office totals for the new film.
The members polls were kinda weird. Wicked is not a remake or prequel to The Wizard Of Oz. It is actually based on the broadway show that Idina Menzel starred in and was a Tony-award winning musical. Fun Fact: According to Wikipedia, Wicked is a loose adaptation of the 1995 book, Wicked: The Life And Times of the Wicked Witch Of The West, by Gregory Macguire, which that book is based on both the L. Frank Baum novel and the iconic 1939 film adaptation of The Wizard of Oz. To me, Trap is basically a suspense thriller movie because M. Night Shyamalan is no stranger to plot twists. There’s nothing horror, no blood, no gore, just a straight up suspense movie.
Thanks Dan, here in Australia voting is a happy tradition with many election day traditions, like grabbing a bbq sausage and onions, or supporting the local school by buying some raffle tickets! I actually think voting is quite fun provided you have time (and the line isn't too long) and know who you want to vote for. Plus in Australia most people are really nice and you can have interesting conversations with people whilst waiting in line!
It would be interesting if for the year-end review you could include a section comparing the breakdown of box office per domestic/international for the top 10 movies.
Hey Dan! I know this isn't related to the charts but I wanted to thank you for your recommendations on "The Remarkable Life of Ibelin". I've grown up with many friendships born and maintained through online games such as World of Warcraft and the film was extremely moving and emotional for me, and I likely wouldn't have known about it without your coverage from the film festivals it premiered at!
I dont think 51 million is a flop compared to its budget of 120 million It will make its money back at the end of domestic and yes i know its lower than previous entries Atleast it didnt cost 200 million before marketing
I recognize the font on your t-shirt. (whip-crack) "The Wizard of Oz" is itself an adaptation of a novel, so if the Judy Garland classic would qualify for a "non-sequel/prequel/remake" list, then so would "Wicked" since it's an adaptation of a Broadway musical which was inspired by the same novel--not necessarily the 1939 film. Perhaps to truly eliminate all doubt and protest regarding a list such as this, make it "original screenplay only" movies. Not adaptations of any source material and not dramatizations of real people or real events. That would make "Bob Marley: One Love", "The Fall Guy" and "It Ends with Us" ineligible, and make room for three more films that are truly original.
the musical is an adaptation of the book Wicked. The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West which itself is inspired by the Wizard of Oz book and movie. I like the original screenplay version but the movies that leave the chart than should not be totally forgotten.
Memoir of a Snail Director, Adam Elliot, is also the director of Mary and Max, which doesnt have an academy award win, like his 2004 short Harvie Krumpet, but is probably more popular
American here! I took my twin grandchildren to see this movie and figured I could close my eyes for a couple of hours but to my surprise the movie was entertaining in a silly way. I knew we weren’t going to see an Oscar bound movie so I guess my expectations were managed. Did a lot of laughing which I definitely needed.
Dan, appreciate you. Appreciate your work, & the message rallying folks to vote. I have to ask, was it an intentional choice to omit the Box Office look back this week? I had to stop the video & go back to see if I missed it😅
Suggestion! I think it would be cool to have a rise and drop number (think -3 or +1) for films in the Box Office Top 10 from the previous week. Would give a nice indicator on how films slowly (or quickly) fall out of the top 10.
I don’t have to worry about competition for the next few weeks because despite its somewhat disappointing opening but promising worldwide numbers, I think Venom 3 will be just fine. There’s not going to be any competition until November 22 when Gladiator II and Wicked releases and then Moana II on the 27th (Pre-Thanksgiving).
I voted this past weekend. It was the first time I had to wait in line for more than 15 minutes. I also live in a state with low voter turnout so it was an encouraging sign!
Great non-partisan message at the end there Dan. You're simply doing your duty as an American citizen by encouraging U.S citizens to exercise their right and privilege that many people in the past fought and died for us to have. Much love to all my fellow Americans and non-Americans out there! Please go out and vote! 🇺🇸
I'm noticing a trend with these series movies: When the preceding movie was good, the box office is higher, even when the movie in question is awful. When the preceding movie was bad, the box office is lower, even when the movie in question is amazing. I think that's what we're seeing with Venom 3. People liked Venom, so Let There Be Carnage did very well, but it was also pretty bad, so The Last Dance is suffering Clearly there are more factors than that, but it's a trend I noticed with X-Men films, and I'm seeing it also in the Spider films
Conclave is attracting a much older crowd who very rarely goes to the theaters. Could have strong legs so long as spoilers about the ending don’t scare too many people away. My parents are excited to go see Conclave, and I think Oppenheimer was the only time they went to the theaters last year.
Fingers crossed to be getting Godzilla -1 this weekend, so far no listings. I am looking forward to a screening of Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis on Monday.
I can't wait for the John Williams documentary. I know that Dan will die on the Oscar for Tony hill, I will die on the lifetime Oscar for John hill. It's long overdue and should be done while he's still with us.
Clarification on the Wicked question: a prequel would fall into the same category as a sequel for the purposes of the chart. The basic idea is to figure out whether the movie should be considered a prequel/sequel/remake, which would make it ineligible, or an adaptation separate from The Wizard of Oz movie, which would make it eligible.
@DanMurrellMovies my gut tells me is a prequel for Wicked
If Wicked actually launches a proper franchise, Wizard of Oz should definitely be a part of the group. No separation in my opinion. The themes and characters are all the same.
Its definitely a prequel. The musical has ties to a lot of characters and iconography of WoO, and the book fully intends to be a prequel.
Wicked is a prequel. You’ll have plenty of chart possibilities, nonetheless. Musicals, anything “Oz,” Part 1s of multi part movies, Thanksgiving week openings come to mind.
I just made this point on the poll...oops..I should've read this first
Thank you Dan, for taking the time at the end of the show. Was wondering why it was 51 minutes. This is the most important election in my lifetime and for my kids. Already voted and encourage everyone to make their voice heard.
Every election is the “most important” until the next one lol
@@Slaughter_Hill Yes, because every one is the current one. This isn't rocket surgery, son. It's also exceedingly obvious why this is said. You aren't dunking on anything but yourself, with this supposed "gotcha".
Non-American here, good message at the end, voting is important even if you think you don't like any of the candidates.
The "greatest country in the world" votes for the lesser of two evils for their president. 😆
Strongly disagree. Voting for the lesser of two evils always gets you evil and always gets you less. And its exactly how we got here to begin with.
@@ChicCanyonExactly
Not voting for the lesser evil got germany Hitler. So yeah, it's important to always vote for the non-Nazi.
Except when they created the US voting system it said only to vote if you feel represented so mind your business 🫡
From a political science major, Thank you for standing up for voting. To those who say it doesn’t matter, it only doesn’t matter if you don’t do it. And as Dan says it does matter especially at the local level.
The fact you bought into the college degree scam says all I need to know. Voting is a joke your votes truly don't matter. The government lies lies lies, they throw your vote out and put whoever they want in office. They have done this for decades.
Thanks for videos Dan, the election talk wasn't out of place. I just learned a couple weeks ago that not every state sends out voter guides to every household! Shocking.
Yes, please vote. It is not a marriage, it is just a 4 year contract.
The Venom films is the most modern "I'll wait for cable" movies I think. They aren't good, but they've got juuuusssst enough charm that you're fine watching it on FX with commercial interruptions. 😂
That's what I've been telling everyone as well, lol!
The first two yeah, but this new one, a bit less so and just to avoid
Spot on analogy 👌
And you've got it on in the background, while you dedicate the lion's share of your focus to surfing the web
Dang Dan, thank you for that fantastic voting message and way to keep it informative and non-partisan! Hopefully people listen and figure things out so that we can get back to a sense of decency / non-divisiveness in politics.
I mean we can hope, but it's hard to have a depolarised political sphere when some people are determined to take away people's literal right to self determine and live a productive and rewarding life.
"Liam Neeson is Liam Neeson in another Liam Neeson movie" without skipping a beat from your regular presenter voice. Love it!
no more needs to be said about his recent cinematography.
In the land of saints and sinners was an excellent movie from him that came out less than a year ago
Thank for your last segment encouraging people to vote and even boldly stating "I'm not going to say I don't care who you're voting for" bc a lot of people try to avoid that in fear of losing subs. Keep doing you Dan
? Most rich people demand you vote blue. Not outward saying that is condemned. Being neutral is the “rebellious” stance
@@Slaughter_Hill A) he's not "rich"; B) the _real_ rich vote red because the red team are the party of giving more rights to business owners and fewer to workers; C) being "neutral" is the dumbest possible stance, especially right now when the dividing line could not be more clear cut. Sitting on this particular fence does not place you above everyone else, just makes you full of splinters.
I like how We Live in Time, Joker 2 and Deadpool 3 all have the same poster.
where?
If you feel like you're not well enough informed to vote just remember there are easily 5 others who actually are NOT well enough informed and do not care how wrong they are and are voting and probably against your best interests... eventually your apathy will catch up to you or your loved ones. GO VOTE.
You think you said something smart but you didn’t. If someone is voting against YOUR interest, you already know who you’re likely voting
@@ctrlsilk You have no idea how many people vote AGAINST their own best interests just because they've been duped by a boogeyman issue. If you talk to apathetic voters about rights that are actually at stake some will go "oh I didn't know that?!" therefore their interests were at stake, but their apathy as kept them from even realizing. Sometimes it takes until you need something before you realize the access is gone. Hopefully that helps! Not trying to sound smart, just trying to get people TO VOTE.
Thanks for calling people out to vote. I was part of the electoral board for the past few elections here in Berlin, Germany and it is such a privilege to get to vote. I was impressed in the last federal elections how many kids were really interested in voting and the whole process, so kudos GenZ - very unlike my and adjacent generations (Xenial here). So please, americans, take some time out of your day, either Nov 5th or maybe in early voting or mail-in ballots and fullfill your democratic right, but also a bit duty! The world is really watching closely!
I'm going through a difficult breakup so your reviews and weekly box office charts are such a joy for me. Thanks for the awesome content, Dan. Been a follower since you were on Screen Junkies❤
Let me tell you - that means an awful lot for me to hear. Thanks for watching.
I appreciate when someone is willing to hear other point of views as well as changing their own view because of it. Sad to say its rare to see on the internet but glad to see its not lost entirely :D
Also Godzilla Minus One is getting a rerelease on November 1st to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the Godzilla character
While I normally click away when movie channels start talking about elections, I didn't for this video and I'm glad I didn't. Really appreciate your commitment to encourage informed voting and to take the same approach here as you do with films: not to try and persuade people for whether they should or shouldn't like something, but to encourage people to be informed in their preferences. Great message!
I was just thinking where is the show ! And here we are
That's crazy to have movies under million in top ten.
it's not that crazy because it has been pretty normal since 2020. Pre march 2020, it happened rarely
And there goes Joker! Three weeks and out is crazy for the sequel after the run of the first movie. What an odd fall so far.
It's already out tomorrow to rent digitally, will soon be on Max.
That's what happens when you make a sequel no one asked for and make it ruin and taint everything that people loved about the first one 😂
Great to see The Wild Robot hold/rally well @Box Office ($233m worldwide) despite Universal stupidly putting it out so early on digital release! Interesting how certain franchises (or genres) like Beetlejuice, Ghostbusters, A Quiet Place, Scream, Halloween etc don't travel as well outside North America doing a bigger portion of their box office domestically as opposed to internationally which is the norm! Real shame Transformers One couldn't hit $100m domestically :(
Apparently they get quite a lot of revenue from streaming it as early as they’re doing so now
@@NinthShinigami Yeah Dan explained it last wk, just feels wrong!
Thank you Dan for the encouragement to vote! My fiance and I got our votes in early, as did my family. Nice blue shirt you got there ;)
Red background tho very tricky
Appreciated your section about voting 👍
Wicked is not a sequel. It's a prequel. It's the story of how these two Witches came to be. Wizard of Oz is about Dorothy, but either witches.
And for that alone it should probably be excluded. It's tied to popular IP and Dan should probably add adaptations to his exclusions for that list.
This is what I commented I don’t know if he means to include prequels on his list. If he means movies that are connected in the same universe then yes prequels should count and therefore wicked should count!
Here in Croatia we could watch Venom triple feature. Six hours with two intermissions.
It was fun because I didn't watch Carnage and first one was six years ago.
not enough intermissions!
That new studio room is coming along quick! This episode looks great
Wicked, the Broadway show, is a prequel in the first act, then the second act happens concurrently with Wizard of Oz. I don’t know what the film will do as part 1 is longer than the entire stage musical, but time will tell.
I feel like since it is an original story from another author that it should be considered original.
Argyle is still on the list, so there is room for Wicked.
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I'm SO HAPPY to hear Dan pronouncing "Pérez" correctly. You've been doing great with your foreign words lately, Dan. Keep it up!
Don't worry, I'm sure I'll screw up again soon, haha. The accent mark is appreciated in the title.
I watched the OG Nosferatu in a theater this weekend instead
Good message at the end.
Thank you for an intellectually forward discussion on voting and the importance of voting
awesome approach on voting dan!! thanks as always
Great words of encouragement at the end there Dan! Fitting for a channel about tracking Charts!
Maggie Smith passed away September 27th so the streaming window for that Harry Potter movie showing on the charts checks out. She had a great career and will be missed.
Great ep as always, Dan! Thank you!! (Also hooray for mail in voting! I’m never going back haha 😆)
Plenty of average to bad superhero movies did really well in the 2010s (suicide squad, amazing spiderman 2, Thor the dark world, venom 1 all made around $700m). I think genre has lost much of the must-see, fear of missing out appeal with the general audiance . People will now only turn up when it is a must -see event that gets great reaction (like deadpool and wolverene).
It makes me wonder whilst Superman and Fantastic 4 could do well, Captian America, brave new world, could flop if it is seen as wait for streaming or skip it movie like the Marvels..
I think with how quick things end up on VOD or Streaming has also played into this. You don’t have to wait very long to see the film, or for high quality pirated versions to be, online.
Why spend £15/£20 per ticket when you can wait a month and spend less than that to own/rent the film.
Perfect explanation. I really hate the narrative that these films have gotten worse over time when there were many films like Iron Man 2 or 3 that were mediocre and did well.
@@henrypeters5291 I never bought that sentiment either, as it downplays the influence of trends in popular culture, including blockbuster movies.
previously there also was a fear of getting spoiled, but now people don't care as much and are fine to wait until the movie hits streaming.
It's October 28th, ans We Live in Time is in TWICE as many theaters as Joker 2. Even foreseeing a crash for Joker 2, you would have had a hard time convincing me of this a month ago.
looking forward to your thoughts on "Agatha all along". I really enjoy how "The Ballad of the Witches Road" has been weaved into the story. they knew what made Agatha so popular before and aren't holding back.
Just saw Venom the last dance. I laughed a lot, I cried a bit, l loved the movie. I don’t understand which movie the rotten tomatoes critics saw, but it wasn’t this movie. Go see it.
Thanks for using your platform to encourage people to vote!
Thank you as always, Dan.
Voting is compulsory here in Australia and while our system isn't perfect, I'm glad that we are all required to have our say. I'm surprised more countries don't do this.
It's disappointing to see 'The Marvels' have the biggest drop off. I actually thought it was a better movie than the first. 'Joker 2' really deserves that top spot. If the box office for 'Captain Marvel' hadn't been inflated by its proximity to the last two 'Avengers' films the drop wouldn't have been as drastic and 'Joker 2' would be at its rightful spot.
Great advice at the end 👍🏻👍🏻
It is a prequel to the Prequel The great and powerful Oz.
Hi Dan, got an idea for a boxoffice/video maybe. Boxoffice sabotage. Myth or reality? Example: Just recently watched The Swan Princess again w my daughter on Netflix. Wasnt really a part of my childhood but overall not a bad movie. Looked very Disney-like but not quite there. Looked into the history and feud of ex-Disney employees creating their own studio etc. Boxoffice wise this was a huge bomb. 1994 was a busy year overall but some suspect foul play by Disney by re-releasing The Lion King in November after the first release ended in september. The Swan Princess was released, you guessed it, in November 1994. Coincidence? Would live love your take on this. When I read it I immediately thought of you and that it might make a fun section or video? Are their more of these release sabotages, maybe other famous box office battles? Regards Raf
The more Venom sells itself as a regular comic book movie or something epic, the less I am interested in it. Gimme that weird buddy cop/romantic comedy in the same body sell.
Found the Joker 2 target audience
Mmhhh...This is complicated. It's doing muted numbers in the US but performing better internationally. In theory, it may do well enough that a sequel is plausible, but doing so could be risky cause it's clear the films have suffered from diminishing returns. So there might be trepidation to greenlit such a film right now.
Good take OP - approved
Yeah, I saw it, and it's biggest flaw was not enough Eddy/Venom is it romance is it buddy cop camp.
@xger21 yea. The first two movies really failed on ... action and everything else. They felt generic and almost like well, it's a superhero movie and the act. Time for CGI polygons to have a goop fight. When this was all "epic finale" I was like... nah.
I enjoy that you are outsourcing the "controversial" questions to the members lol
"Either candidate" could also be the problem. Most countries have more than two contenders for leadership.
I'm no fan of the two party system, but we operate with the system we have and hope for improvements along the way.
Memoir of a Snail is a gem of a movie. Hope lots of people check it out when it expands to more theaters.
Is it less creepy than Mary and Max at least? I get that film is great and everything, but I cannot for the life of me stand the look of that film, and it always turns me off. Does Memoir look more “reasonable”?
@@NinthShinigami Memoir of a Snail was not creepy. Sorry I can’t compare to Mary and Max as I’ve not seen that. I would use the word poignant for Memoir of a Snail. I could use more adjectives but I don’t want to give away anything.
I've gotta imagine that's the first time every title on your theater count change graphic was all over 1,000 theaters.
The election discussion was appreciable.
300 IQ move of Dan to let the public fight it out so he doesn't have to take the bullet in the comments anymore
Trust me, I still am. But I get to share the load, haha.
I guess we (in the U.S.) are not Venom
33:00 It might also have to do with all the talks around the Harry Potter remake as a show. It'll be interesting to see if the other films get into the charts in the coming weeks.
This channel is a gem! It's not just box office numbers--but such rich box office context. I feel like if studios paid attention to this channel--they would make better objective decisions on what they green light (and moviegoers would benefit too).
Been following for over a year now (took the five nights at Freddy’s part to remind me of that) and you’ve become a great part of my week. Thank you for all the hard work.
Channel members were correct in their latest poll. Good job!
That Joker vs Joker 2 earnings graph is INSANE!
Heads got to be rolling all over the WB lot!
Thanks Dan. Enjoyed the show as always.
technically Wicked is NEITHER a sequel nor a remake of the Wizard of Oz, it's actually like a PREQUEL which I know is splitting hairs but given that it's based on the mega successful Broadway musical (which I have actually seen several times because I work on Broadway) which is based on a novel that expands on the lore of the Wizard of Oz so therefore that novel is based on the original novel that the original Wizard of Oz movie is based on. All this to say the answer to your question is no this new Wicked movie is not a sequel or a remake of the Wizard of Oz because the events of the movie take place before Dorothy lands in Oz making it a prequel but should also not be on your original films chart because even though it is a "new take" on the Wizard of Oz that most people who have never seen the Broadway musical will be introduced to for the first time it is still based on a property that's been around for like a hundred years
also they literally sell the novel the Wicked Broadway musical is based on at the show's merchandise stand at the theater /so that's a dead giveaway that it's not a wholly "original" concept
Thank you for this in depth response! I hope Dan sees this you did a wonderful job laying out your point
I'm aware of Wicked being an adaptation of a novel and that it's a prequel to the original L. Frank Baum story. My main question is how it should be regarded in relation to the movie The Wizard of Oz? Should it count as something that is not a prequel/sequel/remake of the original film, or should it be regarded as one? You can make a case either way. It's a very borderline case, which is why I opened it up to the audience.
@@DanMurrellMovies I would say yes it should be considered in the WOO universe. Kinda like how the various movies in the Marvel universe count. It's a prequel/ Elphaba origin story... Hope that helps...
the beekeeper made more domestically than JOKER 2
who could have seen this coming??
Beekeeper was a surprisingly good action film.
Enjoyed it more than Joker: Folie à Deux
Chart With Me UK Top 10
1 Venom: The Last Dance
2 The Wild Robot
3 Smile 2
4 Transformers One
5 The Apprentice
6 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
7 Terrifier 3
8 The Room Next Door
9 The Substance
10 Joker: Folie A Deux
The PSA on voting is what makes this channel great 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for another great video Dan. I appreciate you motivating people to vote.
Underneath "Venom-: 'til Death Do Us Part" you have it listed as "Venom: The Last Dance" along with the opening weekend box-office totals for the new film.
That's because the movie is called Venom: The Last Dance.
@@DanMurrellMovies Oh, I see. "til Death Do US Part" was just a tag line.My bad.
Though ‘Til Death Do Us Part may have been the better name 🤔
Agreed!
The Juror #2 release is pretty messed up. I've also read that Warners doesn't plan on sharing the box office
I just saw the trailer for this movie at the cinema and it looked pretty intriguing, so I don't get WB's choices either.
The members polls were kinda weird. Wicked is not a remake or prequel to The Wizard Of Oz. It is actually based on the broadway show that Idina Menzel starred in and was a Tony-award winning musical.
Fun Fact: According to Wikipedia, Wicked is a loose adaptation of the 1995 book, Wicked: The Life And Times of the Wicked Witch Of The West, by Gregory Macguire, which that book is based on both the L. Frank Baum novel and the iconic 1939 film adaptation of The Wizard of Oz.
To me, Trap is basically a suspense thriller movie because M. Night Shyamalan is no stranger to plot twists. There’s nothing horror, no blood, no gore, just a straight up suspense movie.
17:11 the first one was slotted between infinity war and endgame, literally at the peak of mcu craze, so there was a coattail effect there
Wicked is an adaptation of a Broadway play
10:19 God could you imagine being the commenter that changed Dans mind?! 😂
It was Nick Mundy wasn’t it.
45:48 Thanks for this Dan. Rock the Vote 2024!
Thanks Dan, here in Australia voting is a happy tradition with many election day traditions, like grabbing a bbq sausage and onions, or supporting the local school by buying some raffle tickets! I actually think voting is quite fun provided you have time (and the line isn't too long) and know who you want to vote for. Plus in Australia most people are really nice and you can have interesting conversations with people whilst waiting in line!
It would be interesting if for the year-end review you could include a section comparing the breakdown of box office per domestic/international for the top 10 movies.
Excellent charts episode Dan. Well said about voting. Looking forward to your review of Here. Also, will you be posting a review of Emilia Perez?
Well said at the end Dan
My stopwatch was counting down to this! I loved Venom 3 - in 4DX 😂
As a non American, that was a very thoughtful, clear and considered message about voting.
Great episode Dan.
Nice to hear a movie from the Philippines get on your top 10.😊
Hey Dan! I know this isn't related to the charts but I wanted to thank you for your recommendations on "The Remarkable Life of Ibelin". I've grown up with many friendships born and maintained through online games such as World of Warcraft and the film was extremely moving and emotional for me, and I likely wouldn't have known about it without your coverage from the film festivals it premiered at!
Great episode, Dan!
I dont think 51 million is a flop compared to its budget of 120 million
It will make its money back at the end of domestic and yes i know its lower than previous entries
Atleast it didnt cost 200 million before marketing
Just adding another voice of appreciation for the civics shoutout at the end.
I recognize the font on your t-shirt. (whip-crack)
"The Wizard of Oz" is itself an adaptation of a novel, so if the Judy Garland classic would qualify for a "non-sequel/prequel/remake" list, then so would "Wicked" since it's an adaptation of a Broadway musical which was inspired by the same novel--not necessarily the 1939 film. Perhaps to truly eliminate all doubt and protest regarding a list such as this, make it "original screenplay only" movies. Not adaptations of any source material and not dramatizations of real people or real events. That would make "Bob Marley: One Love", "The Fall Guy" and "It Ends with Us" ineligible, and make room for three more films that are truly original.
the musical is an adaptation of the book Wicked. The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West which itself is inspired by the Wizard of Oz book and movie.
I like the original screenplay version but the movies that leave the chart than should not be totally forgotten.
1:34 if anybody else got confused what a ''world series shwodown'' is its baseball
The Wild Robot is probably the best movie I have seen this year. Ao pleasantly surprised
I never made any comment about your French pronounciation, but hey you made a lot of progress on "folie à deux' so this is Worth mentionning. Congrats
Good speech, Dan!
Memoir of a Snail Director, Adam Elliot, is also the director of Mary and Max, which doesnt have an academy award win, like his 2004 short Harvie Krumpet, but is probably more popular
American here! I took my twin grandchildren to see this movie and figured I could close my eyes for a couple of hours but to my surprise the movie was entertaining in a silly way. I knew we weren’t going to see an Oscar bound movie so I guess my expectations were managed. Did a lot of laughing which I definitely needed.
Dan, appreciate you. Appreciate your work, & the message rallying folks to vote.
I have to ask, was it an intentional choice to omit the Box Office look back this week? I had to stop the video & go back to see if I missed it😅
Video was running long, I decided to cut it.
Suggestion! I think it would be cool to have a rise and drop number (think -3 or +1) for films in the Box Office Top 10 from the previous week. Would give a nice indicator on how films slowly (or quickly) fall out of the top 10.
I don’t have to worry about competition for the next few weeks because despite its somewhat disappointing opening but promising worldwide numbers, I think Venom 3 will be just fine. There’s not going to be any competition until November 22 when Gladiator II and Wicked releases and then Moana II on the 27th (Pre-Thanksgiving).
I voted this past weekend. It was the first time I had to wait in line for more than 15 minutes. I also live in a state with low voter turnout so it was an encouraging sign!
Great non-partisan message at the end there Dan. You're simply doing your duty as an American citizen by encouraging U.S citizens to exercise their right and privilege that many people in the past fought and died for us to have. Much love to all my fellow Americans and non-Americans out there! Please go out and vote! 🇺🇸
I'm noticing a trend with these series movies:
When the preceding movie was good, the box office is higher, even when the movie in question is awful.
When the preceding movie was bad, the box office is lower, even when the movie in question is amazing.
I think that's what we're seeing with Venom 3.
People liked Venom, so Let There Be Carnage did very well, but it was also pretty bad, so The Last Dance is suffering
Clearly there are more factors than that, but it's a trend I noticed with X-Men films, and I'm seeing it also in the Spider films
15:57 purple and green lines for Joker and Joker 2 box office run for its first 24 days. I see what you did there 😏
Conclave is attracting a much older crowd who very rarely goes to the theaters. Could have strong legs so long as spoilers about the ending don’t scare too many people away. My parents are excited to go see Conclave, and I think Oppenheimer was the only time they went to the theaters last year.
Fingers crossed to be getting Godzilla -1 this weekend, so far no listings. I am looking forward to a screening of Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis on Monday.
I can't wait for the John Williams documentary. I know that Dan will die on the Oscar for Tony hill, I will die on the lifetime Oscar for John hill. It's long overdue and should be done while he's still with us.