It is people like David Patterson and the off duty soldiers that performed first aid that should receive honours from this country. Not celebrities and civil servants.
"Abusive vagrants", "dosser", "these cardboard city people". So much prejudice towards people who'd just seen their friend shot and must have thought he'd been killed.
Considering that he'd shot someone in the head, condemning his politically incorrect language seems quite the moral confusion (albeit a fashionably modern one).
homeless people are still part of the comunity...... and are just you and me after a turn of bad luck etc. they count , and are also soneones family member
The geezer playing the robber played the the homeless man who makes victor and the vicar strip down to their pants in a christmas episode of One Foot In The Grave in the early 90's. He had a shooter then as well! Actually a very accomplished actor as well who has been in many things. Lots of un heard of actors done these sort of re construction shows before they moved on to bigger things. I hope david is living well now and is free of trauma.
Did you not watch the whole thing? The crime was solved. A man was caught and pleaded guilty and got 22 years. Either he's still in jail or he's been released and not re-offended.
you misheard this; the term they used to describe homeless vagrants sleeping rough is 'dosser'. Tosser means something completely different in England....
I have just read a small article about a man with the same name who was in lifetime care and wad murdered by some woman who said it was to basically put him out of his misery she got nine years,,,just going back to see if I can see more on it
Very strange how there is no information or old articles about this online; has a D-Notice been put on it? Be interesting to see a picture of Michael Harrold. Anyone finds anything please post a link.
The murder rate in London peaked in about 2002/2003, which ironically was just when nobody was talking about crime in London because Tony Blair was PM and everyone was in an optimistic mood. The mood of the country and the reality of crime often don't match up. Everyone's very pessimistic about crime at the moment, but the London murder rate is actually pretty low at the moment. Less than 100 a year, whereas in 2003 it was 200.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
@@Peter-ix1ym I have weird dreams about staying in hotels and the lift up to the floors keep going and also have weird dreams about none stop train journeys Xx
Was £15000 a lot back in was on 11 but reward seems bit low big respect too soldiers that what they trained for still amazing job lads the sketch artist incredible job sir that skill so fantastic 👏🏻 bravo sir bravo 👏🏻
@@craigix Yeah but this was before the London property boom…..would have been enough to buy a flat at the time albeit a small one whereas now it wouldn’t pay a years rent!
that small flat today could be worth 1 million. we also had the chance to buy our small council flat for 11k seems allot for us been poor. that flat today is worth over 450k @@beefchops1400
When I was 18 working at a Target store in Minnesota, some 16-17 year old, bushy haired shoplifter evaded the plainclothes security guard when he tried to leave and he ran off through the parking lot. The corner of the parking lot he was heading to basically had a perimeter of very busy roads acting to trap him. I’d been there with the security guard as a witness and just got caught up in the moment and started off after him but the guard yelled for me to stop so I just watched as that dope risked his life zig zagging through 6 lanes of traffic on highway 394 to get away with his stolen CD’s. Probably best I didn’t risk my life for $40 worth of Vanilla Ice, Warrant and Skid Row rubbish…
How amazing crime watch was then and not to mention Scotland Yard who were proactive because they didn't have one hand tied behind their backs as they do now. No to mention the off duty scotts guard who saved his life (real men)
David David why tho? I agree it wasn't heroic since the robber had already done the deed, fled still having the shotgun, shot several warning shots at the persuants, what would have been the purpose of apprehending him, such a tragic case.
To steal the bag. Stealing from a criminal is a different morality than stealing from someone innocent. It may not make sense but it is like an ethical code. I don't know him and don't know what he's like but I do know that this is a thing. Even when desperate there are ppl who won't steal, but they will rob a crook. It's different money like that
" Their will be a nice little drink in it for you " , yeah right after the Flying Squad have taken their ' little drink ' ie ( 80 % ) out of the reward money !
hahah, you're joking? You've clearly never heard about the Daniel Morgan murder in 1987, or the subsequent enquiry which said the police in those days (and until now) were absolutely riddled with corruption, and the 1987 investigation into his murder had been deliberately scuppered by corrupt police. Let's not whitewash the past, eh?
When will the criminals in England realize their NO Comments do them more harm wth the jury and two-Get their proper LONG SENTENCES instead of life meaning 12 yrs.. It's time!#KeepEnglandSafe
These Crimewatch reduxes are a brilliant idea.
I love these reduxes! I get to hear the whole story all in one video. Thanks for posting!
These old shows are fascinating!
I agree it really transports you back
It is people like David Patterson and the off duty soldiers that performed first aid that should receive honours from this country. Not celebrities and civil servants.
Absolutely.
Its a crime not to do first aid.
@@SonjaHamburgsince when?
"Abusive vagrants", "dosser", "these cardboard city people". So much prejudice towards people who'd just seen their friend shot and must have thought he'd been killed.
Considering that he'd shot someone in the head, condemning his politically incorrect language seems quite the moral confusion (albeit a fashionably modern one).
@@eadweard. I'm referring to a copper, not the robber.
@@IndigoJo Even so.
homeless people are still part of the comunity...... and are just you and me after a turn of bad luck etc. they count , and are also soneones family member
@@paulthemason9118amen to that
The geezer playing the robber played the the homeless man who makes victor and the vicar strip down to their pants in a christmas episode of One Foot In The Grave in the early 90's. He had a shooter then as well! Actually a very accomplished actor as well who has been in many things.
Lots of un heard of actors done these sort of re construction shows before they moved on to bigger things.
I hope david is living well now and is free of trauma.
I was 15 in 1989 I’m now 50 😟where did time go?!?
ive said this before and ill say it again; why is there no more information on this case?
There’s nothing about it at all I’ve looked very strange
@@scarface7142 it’s been Jill Dandoed
Did you not watch the whole thing? The crime was solved. A man was caught and pleaded guilty and got 22 years. Either he's still in jail or he's been released and not re-offended.
@@IndigoJo Yes but there's nothing online and the name may be fake.
@@stevebbuk Not everything is online for goodness sake. Stupid online.
As a Canadian I always heard "tosser", but more importantly this taught me why I will never ever use that term of abuse
So True! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
you misheard this; the term they used to describe homeless vagrants sleeping rough is 'dosser'. Tosser means something completely different in England....
@@supergrahamgBoth derogatory though.
you're evidently a very confused Canadian 😂 tosser & dosser r entirely separate insults
@@simonpitt8145hardly the point 😂
Any update on David Patterson?
I have just read a small article about a man with the same name who was in lifetime care and wad murdered by some woman who said it was to basically put him out of his misery she got nine years,,,just going back to see if I can see more on it
Sorry just read more about it,must be different guy I think
Excellent work. Bravo!
I can't find any information on this case at all
These old crime watch progs are quite a bit better than the newer types
Great episode. Thx!
19:36 Do you think the attitudes towards the homeless has changed ?
Very strange how there is no information or old articles about this online; has a D-Notice been put on it? Be interesting to see a picture of Michael Harrold. Anyone finds anything please post a link.
So how it ended?
22 years but the person who he shot received life.
Bright lights big city but today's London is probably 100 times more dangerous
The murder rate in London peaked in about 2002/2003, which ironically was just when nobody was talking about crime in London because Tony Blair was PM and everyone was in an optimistic mood. The mood of the country and the reality of crime often don't match up. Everyone's very pessimistic about crime at the moment, but the London murder rate is actually pretty low at the moment. Less than 100 a year, whereas in 2003 it was 200.
That was nearly a bar.
I'll fix it for you.
"bright lights big city but the London of today is hundred times more gritty".
There you go.
Clearly had a problem with his masculinity.
Thank you!
Agree with those that talk about the way the police describe the witnesses
That idiot could have easily got away with it. Could have made a few jobs and stopped and no one wound have ever suspected him.
Why intervene for money that is insured? Ended up disabled for nothing.
That sketch is of prince Andrew 😂😂😂😂😂
Anything on David Patterson today?
Yes
Update: he was given a severe wedgie in prison and can now sing at a higher pitch than Aled Jones
@@peterdonnelly6804 wedgie culture in prison is getting out of hand.
@@peterdonnelly6804and is flying in the air not walking
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
British wit finest in the world!!
@@cal28kim I KNOW NOTHING !
You've posted the same quote on two separate Crimewatch videos.
@@IndigoJo NO SHIT SHERLOCK !
@@fredflintstoner596 No, not "no shit". Why do you keep posting the same shit everywhere?
The scene in the hotel scene reminds me of those weird dreams I’ve been having Xx
Are you ok Kate? What dreams
Being trussed up in your underpants while a man insists you look at him?
@@Peter-ix1ym I have weird dreams about staying in hotels and the lift up to the floors keep going and also have weird dreams about none stop train journeys Xx
Richard the eye witness has a canny resemblance to Michael Knighton!
Great how the Sweeney turn up with no guns or body armour..”one lone gunman who appears to be on his own”…classic
wheres his drum ? love it
Was £15000 a lot back in was on 11 but reward seems bit low big respect too soldiers that what they trained for still amazing job lads the sketch artist incredible job sir that skill so fantastic 👏🏻 bravo sir bravo 👏🏻
About £32k in today's money.
@@craigix Yeah but this was before the London property boom…..would have been enough to buy a flat at the time albeit a small one whereas now it wouldn’t pay a years rent!
You could buy a house for between 4 and 19 thousand
@@peterdonnelly6804 yep I noticed that everything so a lot cheaper
that small flat today could be worth 1 million. we also had the chance to buy our small council flat for 11k seems allot for us been poor. that flat today is worth over 450k @@beefchops1400
Bill Mellish is a sweeney legend!
You don't mess with DCI Mellish. Get your trousers on your nicked.
@@jazzyhomelife2093 shut it !!!
The same DCI Mellish that accused Stephen Laurences mother of not smiling 'for a gimmick'? Its the Met, they're all racist and bent.
When I was 18 working at a Target store in Minnesota, some 16-17 year old, bushy haired shoplifter evaded the plainclothes security guard when he tried to leave and he ran off through the parking lot. The corner of the parking lot he was heading to basically had a perimeter of very busy roads acting to trap him. I’d been there with the security guard as a witness and just got caught up in the moment and started off after him but the guard yelled for me to stop so I just watched as that dope risked his life zig zagging through 6 lanes of traffic on highway 394 to get away with his stolen CD’s. Probably best I didn’t risk my life for $40 worth of Vanilla Ice, Warrant and Skid Row rubbish…
How amazing crime watch was then and not to mention Scotland Yard who were proactive because they didn't have one hand tied behind their backs as they do now.
No to mention the off duty scotts guard who saved his life (real men)
Why do they have one hand tied nowadays?
@@WalterGoodfellow they have had all their powers taken away.
Really? It seems that the current regime are more than happy to give them lots of powers to do their dirty work.
David David why tho? I agree it wasn't heroic since the robber had already done the deed, fled still having the shotgun, shot several warning shots at the persuants, what would have been the purpose of apprehending him, such a tragic case.
It a respect thing as homeless have not a lot left it a pride thing 🫡
To steal the bag. Stealing from a criminal is a different morality than stealing from someone innocent. It may not make sense but it is like an ethical code. I don't know him and don't know what he's like but I do know that this is a thing. Even when desperate there are ppl who won't steal, but they will rob a crook. It's different money like that
Davids brother was stabbed to death in 1988
like the absence of sensationalism.
" Their will be a nice little drink in it for you " , yeah right after the Flying Squad have taken their ' little drink ' ie ( 80 % ) out of the reward money !
I assume all the reward money went to the Asian guy ... All the flying squad work got nowhere until he informed .
Ironside : drop the weapon we've got you surrounded
It was Mick Jagger wot dun it.
I wonder if Kenneth Noye was interviewed for this
👀👀😶
Get a grip, KN fries bigger fish
Why chase someone with a shotgun ridiculous
It a pride thing only that many homeless people have left willingly do what we’d say are crazy things
Sometimes you don't think, you just react.
No one knows how they will react to a situation till you're in it.
These days someone would stand and take a picture
Because England wanted him to 🤣
Unfortunately David wasn't very Bright...
Ayyy ayyy you sayin I'm not bright calm down clam down
Even less bright now
🌹❤️🌹
Old-fashioned, quality gum shoe police work. Different types of coppers then, they had a good brain and fairly well educated.
hahah, you're joking? You've clearly never heard about the Daniel Morgan murder in 1987, or the subsequent enquiry which said the police in those days (and until now) were absolutely riddled with corruption, and the 1987 investigation into his murder had been deliberately scuppered by corrupt police. Let's not whitewash the past, eh?
And today they’re the ones scared of the criminals ! Not vice versa
Nah, just even more full of prejudice
@@LilyKittyCatto Prejudice is also heuristic knowledge, nobody is born with it.
Bait and switch.
Sad that dav was a fool.and the crim should of got more time
When will the criminals in England realize their NO Comments do them more harm wth the jury and two-Get their proper LONG SENTENCES instead of life meaning 12 yrs.. It's time!#KeepEnglandSafe
Evening Kim, nice comment
silence is much better than 'no comment'
When the police get arrested ALL of them give NO COMMENT interviews EVERY time.
One must not help the enemy.in any way shape or form.
I couldn't even get the police to investigate my continental spare tyre stolen by an MOT shop...
They would have solved this much quicker if they even bothered to check cctv.
Let's do it for England lol 😆 😂
Britain, he said. He was a Scot
As if he said that. Terrible acting during these reconstructions.
Dosser , a homeless person . I’ve learnt a new word 😅
Also in England empty buildings where homeless people stay are called "doss houses" lol
Have ya got any bolt croppers... Yea just got a set here in my handbag... OMG.. Hilarious