They should have announced it on April 1st, then they could have, well, you know, if it went pear-shaped they could have said it was a prank. Spent 4 years building it up, and 4 minutes tearing it down.
I commented the same idea on the Watcher "Update" video -- they should have posted the Goodbye RUclips video 19 days earlier so they could have passed it off with "April Fool!" if it didn't go well...
There is a logical fallacy wanting to make TV caliber shows and NOT beholden to advertisers. TV shows are 100% beholden to advertisers. That has never not been a thing.
That’s what I’m saying! there’s no way especially with the reasons they’ve given this move makes sense. Someone is lying and someone has to have been taken advantage of.
One youtuber showed what Watcher makes, they make around $520K a year on RUclips, then, they have around 2,901 Patreons, even if the Patrons are only paying $5 each, that's around $63,000. What watcher is failing to see here is, that RUclips is providing Watcher with the Bandwidth and the STreaming FOR FREE, and once Watcher starts it's own Streaming Service, the Bandwidth and STreaming is going to be coming out of THEIR pockets. An expensive they currently don''t have while they're on RUclips. They're also giving up ALL of their Ad Revenue as well. They are going to Hemorrhage money.
They just updated that they changed their mind because they heard the audience and understand it was a mistake. So now they’re continuing RUclips for free and the streaming survice is to just get things a month ahead.
ive decided that in the aftermath if its just ryan and shane I will happily watch them again but if steven is part of it I will never sub to watcher again
I think they're going to double down. Shane's wife has a Tumblr post saying it's hard paying people's wages. Steven posted a week ago about how they hired more people to bring back his food show.
... a food show that nobody wants to watch. Plus, there are so many travel food shows on RUclips for free that are arguably better.... and the hosts are adventurous and, gasp, likeable. I will likely never eat a $1000 steak but Thai Street food, yeah, that sounds great!
@@Its_like_the_T-Rexyes and they also try food that is good and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg . I only like watching people travel and try food that I want to try someday. 😂😅
They had 2.88M its now 2.83M. I had unsubscribed from them. It's sad what they are doing to us who had followed them from Buzzfeed. It's also bad timing they haven't done their tour in the UK yet. Is there going to be empty seats? Are the audience going to question them about this or is the show going to skip the Q &A to avoid it.
If you already pay for Patreon, you STILL have to pay $5.99/mo to watch their streaming service. That should at LEAST be included in one of the Patreon packages.
OMG, you had me at your intro & that gap in your left eyebrow! The pandas on your shirt totally put it over the top -- I'm subscribing NOW! Edit: Happy to meet another fan of Puppet History. Hope you also enjoy Shane's summary songs near the end -- silly, ridiculous fun. I also watch Are You Scared, Too Many Spirits, Ghost Files, & Mystery Files, but Puppet History is my favourite.
I used to think the channel was just Shane & Ryan. After I figured it out the whole deal? I was literally there because I liked the hijinks that their chemistry brought. I think losing THAT hurts viewers the most. Parasocial relationships suck & I don’t think we ever intend on making them but when they are gone it hurts the same.
Here Yee here Yee, watcher has just announced an apology video, very refreshing to hear that they’ve made changes really good changes(brought to you by a watcher fan)
Thanks for the video. Totally agree. I shouldn't be disappointed in people I don't know but ive watched them since the start and they've really blown it.
At the cost of sounding hyperbolic, but when the streaming service inevitability fails, I think the guys are done as content creators. Im a fan of Ryan and Shane, but this whole thing has damaged their reputations that I can't see them bouncing back. And the less said about Steven Lin the better.
This was a really well put together video! I’m super glad it brought me to your channel! I will now be binge-watching your content for the rest of the day. 🤩
So my gripe with the Steven is ceo and responsible for this narrative is two things: I'm pretty certain Ryan is CFO(financial), and also admits in the video HIS shows are incredibly costly. Ryan is mismanaging their money.
Great point - especially Ceraphi's post. Many people who are low income enjoy RUclips and creators such as yourself because it is entertaining without costing us more money. Creators that appreciate their fans without trying to monetize on their fans love will go a long way on RUclips. This was such a greedy move by the team, they could have cut back on their production costs if they sincerely wanted to keep making content or even partnered with a streaming company like Netflix or Amazon to make a one-off season of their shows
It was over 50 last night, but the problem is a lot paid for a year, and now they can’t get refunded (watcher is refusing). Those will still show up as subbed even if they are trying to leave
They should have announced it on April 1st, then they could have, well, you know, if it went pear-shaped they could have said it was a prank. Spent 4 years building it up, and 4 minutes tearing it down.
I commented the same idea on the Watcher "Update" video -- they should have posted the Goodbye RUclips video 19 days earlier so they could have passed it off with "April Fool!" if it didn't go well...
It really does feel like they want us to fund Steven's over priced vacations and food under the disguise of content "for us, the viewer"
While using OUR money to do it.
I watched that entire “Goodbye RUclips” video like this 🤨
Omg me too 😂
Mood.
They forgot the basic OG showbiz rule. "Dont believe your own publicity".
There is a logical fallacy wanting to make TV caliber shows and NOT beholden to advertisers. TV shows are 100% beholden to advertisers. That has never not been a thing.
That’s what I’m saying! there’s no way especially with the reasons they’ve given this move makes sense. Someone is lying and someone has to have been taken advantage of.
Steven Lim isn’t why we subbed to watcher…
One youtuber showed what Watcher makes, they make around $520K a year on RUclips, then, they have around 2,901 Patreons, even if the Patrons are only paying $5 each, that's around $63,000. What watcher is failing to see here is, that RUclips is providing Watcher with the Bandwidth and the STreaming FOR FREE, and once Watcher starts it's own Streaming Service, the Bandwidth and STreaming is going to be coming out of THEIR pockets. An expensive they currently don''t have while they're on RUclips. They're also giving up ALL of their Ad Revenue as well.
They are going to Hemorrhage money.
They just updated that they changed their mind because they heard the audience and understand it was a mistake.
So now they’re continuing RUclips for free and the streaming survice is to just get things a month ahead.
ive decided that in the aftermath if its just ryan and shane I will happily watch them again but if steven is part of it I will never sub to watcher again
I don't like Steven either but shouldn't both of them also be held accountable rather than dumping everything on him?
I think they're going to double down. Shane's wife has a Tumblr post saying it's hard paying people's wages. Steven posted a week ago about how they hired more people to bring back his food show.
A food show that so far, from all of the comments on the Goodbye video, NOBODY LIKES.
... a food show that nobody wants to watch. Plus, there are so many travel food shows on RUclips for free that are arguably better.... and the hosts are adventurous and, gasp, likeable. I will likely never eat a $1000 steak but Thai Street food, yeah, that sounds great!
Good news I was wrong they didn't double down
@@Its_like_the_T-Rexyes and they also try food that is good and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg . I only like watching people travel and try food that I want to try someday. 😂😅
They had 2.88M its now 2.83M. I had unsubscribed from them. It's sad what they are doing to us who had followed them from Buzzfeed. It's also bad timing they haven't done their tour in the UK yet. Is there going to be empty seats? Are the audience going to question them about this or is the show going to skip the Q &A to avoid it.
I personally find Steven to be a bland personality and wouldn't watch any of the videos that focus on him. I was 100% watching for Shane and Ryan
If you already pay for Patreon, you STILL have to pay $5.99/mo to watch their streaming service. That should at LEAST be included in one of the Patreon packages.
I think it would be sweet if Shane and Ryan returned to the watcher youtube channel saying they KICKED out stephen.
OMG, you had me at your intro & that gap in your left eyebrow! The pandas on your shirt totally put it over the top -- I'm subscribing NOW!
Edit: Happy to meet another fan of Puppet History. Hope you also enjoy Shane's summary songs near the end -- silly, ridiculous fun. I also watch Are You Scared, Too Many Spirits, Ghost Files, & Mystery Files, but Puppet History is my favourite.
They just added apology video
They just backtracked this whole thing. Lol!
I used to think the channel was just Shane & Ryan. After I figured it out the whole deal? I was literally there because I liked the hijinks that their chemistry brought. I think losing THAT hurts viewers the most. Parasocial relationships suck & I don’t think we ever intend on making them but when they are gone it hurts the same.
Here Yee here Yee, watcher has just announced an apology video, very refreshing to hear that they’ve made changes really good changes(brought to you by a watcher fan)
Idk if ppl are gonna forget tho lol
Steven is literally unfunny and not why I followed S+R.
anyone notice his smirk while talking about leaving youtube.
They’re going to be a Media Course Case Study on how to fumble the bag.
Thanks for the video. Totally agree. I shouldn't be disappointed in people I don't know but ive watched them since the start and they've really blown it.
At the cost of sounding hyperbolic, but when the streaming service inevitability fails, I think the guys are done as content creators. Im a fan of Ryan and Shane, but this whole thing has damaged their reputations that I can't see them bouncing back. And the less said about Steven Lin the better.
so glad you came up in my recommended, subbed
Update released 🏃♀️
This was a really well put together video! I’m super glad it brought me to your channel! I will now be binge-watching your content for the rest of the day. 🤩
Thank you so much ❤️
So my gripe with the Steven is ceo and responsible for this narrative is two things: I'm pretty certain Ryan is CFO(financial), and also admits in the video HIS shows are incredibly costly.
Ryan is mismanaging their money.
there is an update now from watcher
They already posted an updated apology video with some changes.
Great point - especially Ceraphi's post. Many people who are low income enjoy RUclips and creators such as yourself because it is entertaining without costing us more money. Creators that appreciate their fans without trying to monetize on their fans love will go a long way on RUclips. This was such a greedy move by the team, they could have cut back on their production costs if they sincerely wanted to keep making content or even partnered with a streaming company like Netflix or Amazon to make a one-off season of their shows
I personally liked watching Steven cook for others, but not eating expensive food lol
Loved the intro everybody. This Spencer is subscribing
They went back on it
👀
I wonder how many patreon people they have lost
It was over 50 last night, but the problem is a lot paid for a year, and now they can’t get refunded (watcher is refusing). Those will still show up as subbed even if they are trying to leave
@@hannahbeanies8855 oohh good point
You may want to watch Watchers update video....
Already did but thanks
I hate that I giggled at the watcher joke. But this video was recommended to me, so you hit the algorithm. Go you
Thanks!