I understand her but I don't feel bad about Maxine because John Paul tried to warn her from the start while trying not to out Carter. She said she was a grown woman and it was just fun but ended up in a relationship with him and that's on her.
@@ChelseyLinden I hope so, I thought JP and Carter were really cute together. Although now I'm worried because Carters actor posted headshots on instagram.
I’m glad that they’re having a conversation what conversion therapy really is. It’s not a simple as people think it is. It’s psychological grooming to get these men to hate themselves. Also Maxine this is about the children and the man Carter tried to convert, not you.
John Paul and Nancy are taking responsibility for what was not their fault while Kitty is being tight-lipped about who lead Carter into this crap, her father Declan.
@@KrisPowell-Blue_ForeverFor goodness sake leave her alone! Chelsey did horrible things, sure. But you’re also being horrible! Two wrongs don’t make a right.
@MichelleLohde-uv2rx ok not sure why you replied this to me. I didn't comment on Maxine or Lucas. I said Duane calling Ro her son was such a sweet moment I teared up. Maybe your reply was for someone else??? 🤷♀️
@@ChelseyLinden Chances are if John Paul had reported it anyway, there still would’ve been a chance that they could prevent it. Or people would’ve kept a close eye on him. The same for the situation with Maxine.
@@ChelseyLindenJohn Paul was still trying to sleep with Carter, so he needs to take a little blame as he let Carter get away with so much cause he wanted Carter to fall in love with him so they could be together 🥴
Oh my OA I know a lot of these People are blaming Hannah, John Paul and Nancy and mostly John Paul but the main Person who should be blamed for all of this is Declan he’s the one who got Carter into this in the first place when he was a Teenager. I’m not excusing what he did to Hannah, John Paul, Lucas, Maxine and even Ro it was indeed all wrong and disrespectful of what he did and yes kidnapping a 16 Year old is even worse but he was still a victim of this from when he was a Teenager now that he’s been arrested and put behind bars I’m sure there’s a possibility he can get help and if Declan even tries to get him reconnected I hope he’ll turn him down. It was so sweet seeing Diane finally calling Ro her Son and respecting his pronouns finally I’m hoping this will continue on with the respect and pronoun supporting with them but I have no doubts he’s gonna get bullied for this though and if he does I hope Diane will stick up for him. 😢
JP doesn't know about Declan. I hope when he finds out he will see Carter for a victim as well. He was almost successful in helping Carter once, before Declan intervened. He can do it again.
This would have all been avoided if Gareth hadn't blackmailed Carter in January. I think it's weird Gareth just disappeared, and now Declan is the big bad. But I am curious how it's going to do with Declan. I really want JP and Carter together, but I'm starting to wonder now that Carters actor posted his headshots on instagram. I wanted them to be my next Ben and Callum from Eastenders.
Nancy is so funny... closing the school... because she didn't do anything as the safeguarding officer, she feels now is the time to make up for lost time. John Paul was hardly in a relationship with Carter... and I feel sorry for Maxine and all the people Carter used as cover-ups.
Oh he isn’t finished paying yet. He caused a lot of long lasting damage to a lot of men who he lied to and they trusted him and that crap he was spewing.
Nancy isn't to blame because she didn't know. John Paul and Hannah though should have raised concerns at the very least I feel because then something would've been on record. Of course, this is Hollyoaks after all and nothing is done like it would be in real life because that's not dramatic enough. They have covered this well in exploring grooming and not just sexual expoitation grooming but grooming in other ways. I don't think conversion therapy has been covered in a soap before
Not living up to your true self only ends up in innocent people paying the price. You cannot be loved until you learn how to love your self. As a gay man I know. I truly know. Learn to love your self so the people you interact with can love you for who you are too. And honestly, anyone who wont accept and love you for who you are? That are just people who are a waste of time. You deserve to be loved, you matter, you have value. Don't waste it on people who aren't worth it!
Remember when Lib was apologising to Summer about the card she signed that Sienna saw. Lib said she was sorry but her apology was not enough. As Summer would say, I have no time for your meaningless apologies. May Summer Ranger return back onto our screens and marry Sienna please❤️Team Summer and Sienna💕Team Simmer💍
Oh look little miss Hannah even though she knew Carter was trying to convert JP and said nothing. Even when found Carter trying push Lucas to have sex with her she told no one. oh and Kitty too even though she seen carter hanging out/associating with Declan and knew how he been treated Ro again she said nothing, and people blaming Carter yes to an extent but the real problem is Declan.
OA also all of you need to stop your idiotic negativity about Maxine she’s been through a lot and she was blinded by love with Carter’s lies. She’s a victim too. 🙄 “You gotta open your eyes!”
Really? You are entitled to your feelings, but I for one feel that he has proven over and over what a pathetic and clueless character he is - and how he inevitably winds up being the victim in his unhealthy relationships. 😞
but would Carter be the way he is if not for Declan and his dad if weren't for them Carter might been able to lived a happy life and accepted who he was.
at 3:11, after diane says "how is this my fault?" can anyone tell me what she says that causes ro to freak out? im canadian so the accent can be hard to decipher sometimes
I confused didn't Maxine dump Carter and tell Declan what happened, because she knew about him and JP why are they saying Carter dating Maxine when she dumped him *confused* also since when was Carter and JP have a relationship, they had few hook ups? for Carter to go running back in the closet? *confused*
John Paul failed everyone miserably by keeping quiet. I'm appalled by his excuses and I hope he's held accountable for standing by while this Carter crap was going down.
Brilliant Hannah ......Kitty needs to punch Declan and say I am a woman. GD I feel so bad for Jean Paul.....They need to lay off him..... So tired of Tony lashing into Diane....... Can we please get them back to them....❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ohhh please maxine 😂😂😂 Girl please give me a danm break You always playing the victim Maybe if You didnt jump from relationship so fast before actually getting to know the guy You wouldnt find yourself in this situation This is all Carter fault So stay quiet
I understand her but I don't feel bad about Maxine because John Paul tried to warn her from the start while trying not to out Carter. She said she was a grown woman and it was just fun but ended up in a relationship with him and that's on her.
Hannah was right the person to blame is Carter not Nancy or John Paul.
jwsm2 OA well the main Person who is to blame for this mostly is Declan and Carter’s Father.
But think about it Carter wouldn't be the way he is, if weren't for Declan and his dad in a sense Carter is a victim himself.
@@FH1234-u2o OA exactly! I still believe there’s hope of redemption for Carter
@@ChelseyLinden I hope so, I thought JP and Carter were really cute together. Although now I'm worried because Carters actor posted headshots on instagram.
@@Hotspot87 OA I hope he’s not left the show. 🥺
I’m glad that they’re having a conversation what conversion therapy really is. It’s not a simple as people think it is. It’s psychological grooming to get these men to hate themselves. Also Maxine this is about the children and the man Carter tried to convert, not you.
John Paul and Nancy are taking responsibility for what was not their fault while Kitty is being tight-lipped about who lead Carter into this crap, her father Declan.
Now for creepy declan to get caught
Tracyjacob7091 WD that's true!☺️
Tracy Jacob OA and I’m hoping Carter will seek help and be Gay as well.
@@ChelseyLinden WD can you please disappear just for 1 day?
@@KrisPowell-Blue_ForeverThat was straight up brutal 😮
@@KrisPowell-Blue_ForeverFor goodness sake leave her alone! Chelsey did horrible things, sure. But you’re also being horrible! Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Diane calling Ro "My son" was the sweetest
Such a moment that I'm in tears!!❤🥹
@@sarahcarr5275 maxine knew Carter is bi she didnt knew what he been up too she grown up Lucas is just kid .
@MichelleLohde-uv2rx ok not sure why you replied this to me. I didn't comment on Maxine or Lucas. I said Duane calling Ro her son was such a sweet moment I teared up. Maybe your reply was for someone else??? 🤷♀️
@@sarahcarr5275 is dillon in love with Lucas why he dont wat him goes to jail what he did to him ?.
I’ve been a bit frustrated with Diane for the past few weeks, but at least now she’s finally talking through things with Ro
they all blaming JP but don't care that Hannah knew all this time too?
poor Maxine she didn't deserved to be used liked that
Gary McNabb OA ikr????? 😢😢😢😢😢
She's right in a way. He knew what carter was like and let it go on for far too long
But she needs to vent that anger on Carter because right now he's probly sitting in jail thinking he did nothing wrong
JP did try warn you Maxine.
Yes he did and she didn't want to hear it.
Maxine loves being a victim ever since she turned up in Hollyoaks. I do feel for her regarding Patrick but she gotta get real and tough now
@@abbieroseholden4174 she not victim lucas and roo is .
I can't believe they blamed Nancy & John Paul!
OA the only one who should be blamed for this is Declan. 😢😢😢😢😢
John Paul has to take some blame for not speaking up, he’s not the victim here
@@joshuaw9675 OA actually he is because he thought Carter had stopped with the conversion therapy stuff but he was fooled by love.
@@ChelseyLinden Chances are if John Paul had reported it anyway, there still would’ve been a chance that they could prevent it. Or people would’ve kept a close eye on him. The same for the situation with Maxine.
@@ChelseyLindenJohn Paul was still trying to sleep with Carter, so he needs to take a little blame as he let Carter get away with so much cause he wanted Carter to fall in love with him so they could be together 🥴
Oh my OA I know a lot of these People are blaming Hannah, John Paul and Nancy and mostly John Paul but the main Person who should be blamed for all of this is Declan he’s the one who got Carter into this in the first place when he was a Teenager. I’m not excusing what he did to Hannah, John Paul, Lucas, Maxine and even Ro it was indeed all wrong and disrespectful of what he did and yes kidnapping a 16 Year old is even worse but he was still a victim of this from when he was a Teenager now that he’s been arrested and put behind bars I’m sure there’s a possibility he can get help and if Declan even tries to get him reconnected I hope he’ll turn him down. It was so sweet seeing Diane finally calling Ro her Son and respecting his pronouns finally I’m hoping this will continue on with the respect and pronoun supporting with them but I have no doubts he’s gonna get bullied for this though and if he does I hope Diane will stick up for him. 😢
Nancy would have shut it down if she knew. I feel that John Paul should have said something to Nancy though
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA I wish she had too along with Sally and Ivy. 😔😔😔😔😔
JP doesn't know about Declan. I hope when he finds out he will see Carter for a victim as well. He was almost successful in helping Carter once, before Declan intervened. He can do it again.
hope so but Carter might be too far gone now.
Kitty is kinda annoying judging JP and Nancy when she saw how Carter treated Ro, knew he assoicated with Declan and did not really do anything....
This is for sure John Paul and Hannah's fault, they knew and were quiet about it. If John Paul had reported this, Lucas would have been saved.
Instead finger pointing at each other just blame Carter and Declan. As far as Maxine she was just Carter's beard.
This would have all been avoided if Gareth hadn't blackmailed Carter in January. I think it's weird Gareth just disappeared, and now Declan is the big bad. But I am curious how it's going to do with Declan.
I really want JP and Carter together, but I'm starting to wonder now that Carters actor posted his headshots on instagram. I wanted them to be my next Ben and Callum from Eastenders.
Gareth wasn't the big bad he was victim too. He blackmailed Carter over his hypocrisy after catching him with JP.
I think if Maxine would have never called Declan once she found out about John Paul and Carter none of this would have happened
Thing is Carter is a victim too his a small fish in big pond, Carter wouldn't be way he is if not for Declan and his dad.
Declan!!!!! You’re the big fish.
Nancy is so funny... closing the school... because she didn't do anything as the safeguarding officer, she feels now is the time to make up for lost time. John Paul was hardly in a relationship with Carter... and I feel sorry for Maxine and all the people Carter used as cover-ups.
but JP knew Carter had feelings for him, i kind think Carter was coming round until that Gareth guy blackmailed him.
That character Maxine always get the crappy man. She is the doormat in the show.
Finally Carter paid for all the damage he caused
Oh he isn’t finished paying yet. He caused a lot of long lasting damage to a lot of men who he lied to and they trusted him and that crap he was spewing.
Nancy isn't to blame because she didn't know. John Paul and Hannah though should have raised concerns at the very least I feel because then something would've been on record.
Of course, this is Hollyoaks after all and nothing is done like it would be in real life because that's not dramatic enough.
They have covered this well in exploring grooming and not just sexual expoitation grooming but grooming in other ways.
I don't think conversion therapy has been covered in a soap before
I hate to say this but Maxine has never had a character judgement towards men Patrick, Glen now Carter oh yeah Warrenn
😮😮cant believe they blamed Nancy and John Paul😮😮
Charlie Jordan OA the main one who’s to blame for this is Declan. 😒😒😒😒😒
@@ChelseyLinden yep im happy that Diana now accepting Ro as a boy
@@xXAlphawerewolfXx OA me too. Hopefully this will continue on.
Not living up to your true self only ends up in innocent people paying the price. You cannot be loved until you learn how to love your self. As a gay man I know. I truly know.
Learn to love your self so the people you interact with can love you for who you are too. And honestly, anyone who wont accept and love you for who you are? That are just people who are a waste of time. You deserve to be loved, you matter, you have value. Don't waste it on people who aren't worth it!
Remember when Lib was apologising to Summer about the card she signed that Sienna saw. Lib said she was sorry but her apology was not enough. As Summer would say, I have no time for your meaningless apologies. May Summer Ranger return back onto our screens and marry Sienna please❤️Team Summer and Sienna💕Team Simmer💍
Oh look little miss Hannah even though she knew Carter was trying to convert JP and said nothing. Even when found Carter trying push Lucas to have sex with her she told no one. oh and Kitty too even though she seen carter hanging out/associating with Declan and knew how he been treated Ro again she said nothing, and people blaming Carter yes to an extent but the real problem is Declan.
I was wondering when Maxine was coming in. I almost forgot her and carter were supposed to be dating.
I thought Maxine found out about JP and dumped him?
Carter actually hasn't committed a crime though 😂
child neglect, attempting to kidnap a child, emotional and maybe physical abuse...
@@knjjah2776 I think they meant the conversion therapy since under UK law it’s technically not illegal
0:10 and people say Lucas wasn’t being groomed 🙄🙄
OA also all of you need to stop your idiotic negativity about Maxine she’s been through a lot and she was blinded by love with Carter’s lies. She’s a victim too. 🙄 “You gotta open your eyes!”
Well said Hannah! Couldn’t have put it better myself!
So happy she’s back!!! Love you Emma! 😘😘🔥🔥
Nancy girl, after craig, the priest, and Ste's dad are you really surprised by carter.
i love john paul 🥰 0:20
Really? You are entitled to your feelings, but I for one feel that he has proven over and over what a pathetic and clueless character he is - and how he inevitably winds up being the victim in his unhealthy relationships. 😞
I love Hannah. Nice to see her back. Also I love Tony using Ro's preferred pronouns and trying to help. Also the person playing Ro is doing brilliant.
Jasper OA me too it’s so beautiful. However I’m not find that the writers have turned her into a sex worker. Hopefully she’ll be redeemed from this. 🥺
@@ChelseyLinden it's a strange decision on the writers part. Because I remember her anorexia storyline.
@@darkflower444 OA true.
James Diane Tony and Maxine are blaming John Paul for all the Carter situation
Just whit until Scott and Ste Hay find out about John Paul
And rest of the mcquen
Technically things only got worse once Maxine called Declan so she has more blame then John Paul does
It may be Declan's fault but Carter is a nasty price of work.
but would Carter be the way he is if not for Declan and his dad if weren't for them Carter might been able to lived a happy life and accepted who he was.
at 3:11, after diane says "how is this my fault?" can anyone tell me what she says that causes ro to freak out? im canadian so the accent can be hard to decipher sometimes
She said "It wasn't me that broke our world apart, I was trying to put it back together"
Can't you just put subtitles on?
I am so glad Diane is accepting ro
I confused didn't Maxine dump Carter and tell Declan what happened, because she knew about him and JP why are they saying Carter dating Maxine when she dumped him *confused* also since when was Carter and JP have a relationship, they had few hook ups? for Carter to go running back in the closet? *confused*
John Paul failed everyone miserably by keeping quiet. I'm appalled by his excuses and I hope he's held accountable for standing by while this Carter crap was going down.
I want James to use his skills on Carter and avenge his step-son so they can become closer
Please😭❤️
Just whit until Silly find out about John Paul
Is it weird that I’m so happy to see James upset over Lucas😭❤️
Damn Carter you chose chaos
1:22 WD is that real fire behind him?#Hollyoaks #All4 🤔
Kitty has groomed Rose and her parents impacting them for the rest of their life's. She should be in jail with Carter.
I not excusing Carter but Carter was once a Lucas himself.
This series is magnificently scripted.
8:00 ❤❤
James trying to be a concern parent. Give me a break.
Ant Jones OA what in the name of Brit Marling is that supposed to mean????? 🤨
Roe is getting hips. They need to do something quick.
Brilliant Hannah ......Kitty needs to punch Declan and say I am a woman. GD I feel so bad for Jean Paul.....They need to lay off him.....
So tired of Tony lashing into Diane.......
Can we please get them back to them....❤❤❤❤❤❤
Ohhh please maxine 😂😂😂
Girl please give me a danm break
You always playing the victim
Maybe if You didnt jump from relationship so fast before actually getting to know the guy
You wouldnt find yourself in this situation
This is all Carter fault
So stay quiet
John Paul opens up to James Hannah Nancy i be in relationship with Carter
Just whit until Ste Hay find out about John Paul
I wish JP was my bf!
❤❤❤❤
He she they 😂people r funny
My heart
I hate Carter. He ruined everyone's life.