Nice to see you back man. 👍 It's funny how during the Super Hero Movie this idea of any Namekian can learn this ability of "Unlocking Potential" was brought up because of needing to be a certain age. I enjoyed how you used the humans during the Android Saga with Yamcha fighting, and how Krillin and Tien will open up their own school you could have Goten train under Krillin while Winter train under Tien as their first students. I like that the Future Timeline had the Gohan-Piccolo dynamic, and Winter played the Future Trunks role here. Yeah understandable Gohan at this point isn't in a life or death fight like during the Cell Games so him going SSJ2 doesn't make sense while Winter need this power to protect her future. Finally hoping Gohan finds a balance in studying and training during the 7 year time-skip. Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part soon.
@@harishaggarwal1828 Gohan doesn't need to train, but given the Androids and Cell, this makes a good reason for Gohan to at least keep up his training and still pursue his studies. Gohan could slack off like he did in the original because of his scholarly goals, but we'll see how this goes.
It makes sense for why Gohan is weaker. Historically he is always the hybrid with the least amount of dedication to actually gaining power until it's too late. Winter being the offspring of Raditz and not having Chi-chi around to "soften" should definitely give her the edge in battle imo.
The biggest benefit to training on Yardrat is the characters learning to not let their Ki leak. We saw the massive boost Vegeta got from learning not to let his ki leak. I'm sure they would be beyond Super Saiyan level by not having their ki leak.
I haven't finished the video yet, but it's already a fucking banger, man. I will come home to finish the rest of it. Thank you for the lengthy upload, and always good to see you around here.
I'm glad you are back with another part to this amazing what if, I was expecting Launch to be with Raditz but being with Suno is not unwelcomed, him and Suno having Winter is nice and the humans training on Yardrat is also another great thing since they deserve the spotlight sometimes, I love the new look you gave Raditz and the giving him and Winter grade 4 and giving Winter Super Saiyan 2 at the end, I really enjoyed this part and hope the next comes out soon, I think in the Buu saga Piccolo might come in as a pawn to Babidi since he wasn't friends with Gohan in the present so he might end up coming in, also Winter training with Krillin or Tien in their respected schools.
I absolutely love Raditz's ssj design! It's amazing! And not only did you give the Z-warriors Kaioken, you sent them all to Yardrat as well! This makes me really happy. That said, introducing Raditz to Eighter and Suno was a very interesting direction, as well as very novel. That's not something you see fanfic writers do, and I think it was a great idea. Also, Winter is a very nice name for his daughter and it makes perfect sense. I don't know if you're open to it, but I would love to see a separate video of depicting Raditz and Winter bonding together. I'm a glutton for slice-of-life... every once in a while. I look forward to your newest post whenever it happens. Take care my friend!
Yo MA!! I just wanted to say I really enjoyed part 3 of this story! I loved how you made not only Raditz a more relevant character but also making the human Z fighters more relevant too. It was awesome imagining Tien, Krillin, Chiatzu, and Yamcha using Kiaoken and Spirit control and even having them use the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to prepare for Cell was awesome too even though they didn't get to fight the Big Boss but still really great! Great job man 👏. Hope there's a part 4 coming🤞but if not that fine.
I would have enjoyed more " fluff" but I really love this story and can't wait to see what you do with the Buu saga. Keep up the good work your awesome man
Thank you for coming back to this what if scenario. You produce high quality stories that delve into the motivations and personalities of each character. I always thought the humans could have been more relevant if they continued gravity training after learning the kaiokin. Great job sending them to Yardrat. What would happen if the humans got the same potential unlock that Gohan got from that elderly kaioshin? Could they possibly learn a new form based off of those ultimate/mystic forms. Would they even need to learn God ki at that point? People forget that Tien is a genius and a quick study when it comes to learning new moves and techniques.
Glad to see that you are OK, Manga Adventures. By the way, can you explain what happened to you during the year? Also, can you do the story of Krillin being born with Frieza's potential?
> Gotten it from biting Frieza's tail. OK dude tha'ts now headcannon. Tien and Krillen being the next generation of thier respective schools in a healthy rivalry to push eachother? That is wholesome. Gohan v Winter felt very Obi-Wan vs Anakin. A defensive tactical fighter verses someone who has more raw strength but is very 'wall of attacks' in how they approach problems.
Ey glad to see you returned finally with a banger of a video. Love what you did with the humans. Kaioken, spirit training, having Tien and Yamcha completely body 19 and 20 was a great decision to give them relevance, while saving Cell for the saiyans. Plus they went into the ROSAT (like they should have in canon). A great fanservice moment would have definitely been the 4 humans, after they come back from Yardrat, challenging Goku and Raditz to a 2 v 4 just to see how they measure up now after all their training, or a 3 v 4 if you want to include Gohan. Raditz meeting Eighter was great. He was one of the characters I first thought of from the ending of part 2. Now bringing back SUNO of all characters and having Raditz get with her, I don't think many people called that. I'm sure there's quite a few people not familiar with the original Dragonball wondering who Suno even is. I'm kinda shocked you didn't have Raditz mention that he's Gokus brother though. Suno knowing Goku and all, I'd love to know her reaction when she finds out, and Gokus reaction to seeing her again. Really curious to see what Tien and Krillin starting those martial arts schools will lead too in terms of plot and character interactions.
My lil brother's bday was on last Wednesday. He wished for your return. I'm gonna show him this. I can't even imagine how happy he's gonna be. Good to have you back, dude. Pls update frequently in the community tab.
I would definitely watch an hr long upload just for you, bro. I think what we have is just enough to gather our own context on how that happened, based on the details. I love it, man. Gohan not getting SSJ2 is a bit different and a nice diversion from usual, with Winter unlocking it instead. I like that the Humans continue to be relevant in the fight against the Androids, and later will spread their teachings (Tien and Krillin) with the world. I can't wait to see what you do with the seven year timeskip with Goku being alive, but Piccolo is still out there. Will Gohan still find him and soften him again or will this turn out differently?
i enjoy this story and even understand the power scaling of everyone currently, im interested to see how the buu arc goes with everyone at this point well beyond their canon selves, well except gohan but i think it's nice because it more to how he fights in sense of it being a necessity other than fun. i hope maybe he sees it as fun after his match with winter and maybe even after meeting videl. im even more curious if super Saiyan 3 will be of any relevance in this timeline.
This story has been amazing so far, but I have to admit, I think Cell should have been stronger, all this amazing data and yet Cells is caught lacking against Goku in the end Buuut the most interesting thing is, you overlooked present timeline Cell, and if he's still alive there's a possibility of him becoming a threat in the future, and maybe he won't even need the androids to be a threat (especially if he gets Kaioken)
If there’s a part 4 could they maybe end up having Bulma activating, and reprogramming #16 to be good, and find him based off not wanting present cell to activate and try to time travel in light of future cell? That way 16 can be in the Buu saga
Welcome back my man. Also ayy you did read are comments and suggestions. Swear to God if People still belive the heart virus came from Yardrat I'm gonna riot. Everything in the series points to it being an earth bases virus
As for the Buu arc, nobody knows FSF, so Buu’s gonna be an absolute monster, as per usual, if he’s released. But things seem perfectly set up for Buu to not be released at all. Dabura can’t turn enough warriors to stone, and with Krillin and Tien being as serious as they are here, those two are the biggest threats to Buus revival, and the only person viable for Babidi to possess is Piccolo, who of course would return to his “nobody destroys the world that belongs to ME!” Mentality of the Saiyan Invasion Saga, and break out of Babidis control, and that’s even IF Babidi can get him in the first place. Tien is likely the largest danger to Buus revival, with his Yardratian Duplication technique allowing him to be in many places at once, and rushing the wizard directly, unable to be stopped by the sorcerers minions, who also have to deal with the others.
This is pretty great man. Buu arc is going to be really short since Raditz and Goku have a better relationship so no majin hijinks. Only sad part is Big Green of this timeline hasn't gone through the character development like the one from the future
Yo MA , I love your storytelling, now you have a new subscriber! Here's a little story I would love to hear somebody say. What if Goku somehow some way ended up with vados and they had a child. Put that in your brain and try to make a good DBZ series out of it
I think you want another RUclipsr in mind, Mah boy Manga Adventures makes great most definitely possible what ifs and no offense, that idea seems impossible as Angels can't interfere with mortal affairs.
Just cz this time-line got changed that kami can unlock potential doesn't mean future trunks' time-line would change tho, I would of preferred if his time-line was unaffected
Manga Adventures back from the dead with a banger of an episode, well done! That being said, regarding cell, if Gero made the androids stronger by using a stronger goku and vegeta as reference, wouldn't Cell be stronger as well? Epsecially if this Cell has Vegeta's DNA alongside Raditz, it wouldn't be a huge difference but its one more saiyan in his dna pool. I still think Cell would've been whooped tbf, I just think this Cell would at least be stronger than canon Cell. And a hypothetical Super Perfect Cell in this scenario mightve been enough to contend with Goku at the very least
This version of cell was definitely stronger by at least 2-4xs maybe more but it still wouldn’t be enough to face this version of goku so I didn’t bring it up
You hyped up everybody with the yardratian abilities but you barely show them off using them and nobody used forced spirit fission. I do love everything you did with winter though it's hard to make an OC and I think you did well
wait, if he's 10x stronger.... doesn't that make him nearing the strength of or stronger than buu, Idrc if he's stronger than Cell or not, but I just wanted to know.
@@runeuchihawhatifsandgaming3783 1. A rage boost is different from a transformation. Gohan has had rage boost way before he ever went ssj2 or even ssj1 2. When gohan went ssj2 against Kibito Vegeta and Goku said he was stronger when he was a kid but he clearly had lightning there are you saying he wasn’t ssj2 there either?
@@MangaAdventures who would goku compare dabura to, the cell he fought or the cell gohan fought or the cell he wasn’t even there to help against, cell was stated to need to go all out to dodge gohans attacks before gohan went ssj2 which means when he fought goku he wasn’t going all out, plus remember zenkai boosts, cell likely got one after the instant kamehameha than senzu bean, than we get super perfect cell which goku wasn’t even there for so I’d say g9ku was comparing dabura to the cell he fought, toriyama never forgets to draw lightning in the dbz manga and when gohan went ssj2 against kibito it was still recently after extremely soon after video was beaten down
I wouldn't put goku above cell because although gero stopped watching goku after the fought with vegeta the super computer creating cell and programming the androids kept watching and collecting data. This is seen when future cell has data on trunks not believing he could beat the androids. The super computer tuned the androids in canon making them stronger than the ones in the future timeline to keep up with the Z fighters 3 years of training. This would lead to a stronger cell coming from the future absorbing stronger dormant androids. Only weaker because he didn't absorb any humans to get the androids. I would put this cell at about 1.75 times stronger than canon ss2 goku.
The super computer didn’t program the androids it only programmed cell so their powers would be the same. As for power wise the super computers job was to gather dna necessary for the perfect bio android if it felt like it had enough dna it wouldn’t gather more no matter how strong the person was which is why it didn’t gather the dna of gohan in the future timeline and as explained by cell himself didn’t gather the dna of future trunks in the present timeline because it had enough saiyan dna which is insane because trunks bodied both frieza and cold but the super computer gathered their dna instead meaning no cell wouldn’t get stronger because he has the same dna as canon
@@MangaAdventures I guess we'll have to see how the still incubating cell in gero's lab turns out in this scenerio since it should appear around 19-21 years in the future, based off of trunks' age when cell killed him in the future. Placing it a few years after canon end of Z.
@@MangaAdventures do you think the super computer would register cell as a unique life form and attempt to collect a sample of perfect future cell for the still incubating present cell even if it was to expedite the incubation process? Just A thought I've had before that i don't think anyone has addressed or mentioned. Imagine an imperfect cell equal to or stronger than perfect cell.
@@Demon_Hunter417 not sure but even if it doesn’t it would gather the dna of dabura who’s just as strong although there are stronger opponents than them like majin buu,
In my opinion, there's no way Yamcha would learn a technique just so he could run from a fight. He's not Vegeta, and there's no example of him attempting to run from a fight in canon. People gotta stop w/ this cowardly Yamcha narrative. If anything, he would learn Instant Transmission to use in conjunction w/ his Wolf Fang Fist to outmaneuver & surprise attack his opponent.
True in the first half of the series but after (arguably during) the android saga he gave up on fighting and saw his efforts as futile being comic relief in the series. Even if you ignore Super it’s pretty clear in the buu saga that his passion for fighting is gone. he doesn’t enter the world tournament he doesn’t even go with Goku and the others to fight babidi
@@MangaAdventures That's all irrelevant though, as my point wasn't about him retiring from fighting, it was about him not learning a technique so he could run from a fight. Something which, again, never happens in any iteration of the canon series. Not to mention, the saga you're on, the Android saga, isn't the Buu saga and shows the opposite of Yamcha showing up to fights even when he knows he has no chance against the villains. Besides, Krillin has retired from fighting multiple times as well, but no one would ever suggest he'd run from a fight.
@@Imperia1Wrath you said people gotta stop with the cowardly Yamaha and it’s clear he was a coward after the android saga. My comment isn’t irrelevant he didn’t want to fight babidi he didn’t want to enter the buu saga tournament. In super it’s heavy on the comedy which doubles his cowardly nature so I can see why people see him as such. As for my story I never called him a coward I said he could use instant transmission just in case they get in over their head and can make a quick escape. A strategic retreat isn’t cowardly he could leave to heal up/get senzu beans etc. If a fatal attack comes there way that would have killed them he could instant transmission out the way. So on and so forth.
@@MangaAdventures How is retirement being "cowardly"? That's like saying retired athletes are cowards cause they don't play their sport anymore. It was never said he didn't wanna fight Babidi, just as in Super it was never said he didn't wanna fight against Frieza's henchmen, or compete in ToP. In the case of the latter, it's the opposite cause he was clearly shown wanting to fight in the tournament & waiting on Goku to show up. The only reason that narrative gets played up in Super the way that it does, is just like the "Goku bad dad" joke, is because aside from the horrible writing of Super, fans like yourself keep propagating it when it's simply not true. If it were, you'd be able to reference a scene where Yamcha outright refused to fight a villain. But we both know that doesn't exist. Your reasoning didn't mention anything about a "strategic retreat", your framing made it sound like he would use it to run if there was danger. While that may not have been your intention, I'm just telling you as a Yamcha fan who's had to endure this false narrative for decades, that's how people who already look down on him are going to interpret it.
@@Imperia1Wrath so are we ignoring that after getting impaled by android 20 he actually refuses to fight but only agrees to come along to watch? (Chapter 340) If you don’t want to use the dr gero example because he does show up that’s fine I’m only using it because he himself said he is not fighting and you said he never said anything of the sort When Androids 17,18 and 16 all come to kami house looking for Goku (who at this point is now at the lookout) only Piccolo leaves with them. (Chapter 366) Yes Piccolo tells them not to come but why not join for support they basically just let Piccolo fight a possible 3v1??? It’s because they don’t think they can win a question posed by yamcha and answered by tien with a “not against those 3” Later when imperfect cell arrives tien says he can’t just be a bystander anymore and flies to go help piccolo meanwhile krillin goes to get the deactivation remote. (Chapter 369) Yamcha does nothing and isn’t even shown in panels. Doesn’t matter where he was he could have also sensed cell’s ki like tien and decide to join the fight but chose not to. These are three clear and unarguable explains of Yamcha not wanting to/not going to fights before he retired as a martial artist. On to the buu saga after he retired as a fighter you are right me using him not entering the tournament is a bad argument but I stand by him not joining the other z fighters to face babidi being a point against him. He saw gohan get his energy absorbed and everyone flying off to chase after them he even comments something must be up but he decides to stay in his seat? (Chapter 445) Don’t know what your definition of running from a fight is but for me having the choice to fight but choosing not too is running from a fight. Using athletes as example like you did if a ufc fighter chooses not to go against his opponent because he is stronger and knows he would lose he would be seen as cowardly. I understand you’re a Yamacha fan Yamcha is a cool character being the first in the series to give Goku a challenge and has some really cool attacks like the wolf fang fist and the spirit ball but ultimately you can’t be mad how someone interrupts a character I gave a few examples to show you how someone could interrupt him as cowardly I myself don’t see him as such just to be clear so I would like to apologize about my framing of why he learns instant transmission.
The heart virus was never actually confirmed on where it came from. I personally believed that it was contracted from the way Goku lived as a kid on Mt. Paozou before he met Bulma. There’s also the possibility that he contracted the heart virus while living in Grandpa Gohan as well. I personally think that it’s the first one. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the second possibly I said.
Nice to see you back man. 👍 It's funny how during the Super Hero Movie this idea of any Namekian can learn this ability of "Unlocking Potential" was brought up because of needing to be a certain age. I enjoyed how you used the humans during the Android Saga with Yamcha fighting, and how Krillin and Tien will open up their own school you could have Goten train under Krillin while Winter train under Tien as their first students. I like that the Future Timeline had the Gohan-Piccolo dynamic, and Winter played the Future Trunks role here. Yeah understandable Gohan at this point isn't in a life or death fight like during the Cell Games so him going SSJ2 doesn't make sense while Winter need this power to protect her future. Finally hoping Gohan finds a balance in studying and training during the 7 year time-skip. Anyways another really good part, and looking forward to the next part soon.
Thanks! You don’t know how much it means you enjoyed this video! Always good to see you
No , Gohan trained to protect earth but because of Goku here he doesn't need to train cus he wants to become a scholar
@@harishaggarwal1828 Gohan doesn't need to train, but given the Androids and Cell, this makes a good reason for Gohan to at least keep up his training and still pursue his studies.
Gohan could slack off like he did in the original because of his scholarly goals, but we'll see how this goes.
Please have Gohan keep with his training if you can.
It makes sense for why Gohan is weaker. Historically he is always the hybrid with the least amount of dedication to actually gaining power until it's too late. Winter being the offspring of Raditz and not having Chi-chi around to "soften" should definitely give her the edge in battle imo.
The biggest benefit to training on Yardrat is the characters learning to not let their Ki leak. We saw the massive boost Vegeta got from learning not to let his ki leak. I'm sure they would be beyond Super Saiyan level by not having their ki leak.
I hope it plays into SSJ3 and actually be a good form.
I can finally breath again with a manga adventures upload
Nice to see you again, man.
You been sleep since my last video
@@MangaAdventures i've been hibernating like beerus
wow you held your breath for 4 months 😧
I haven't finished the video yet, but it's already a fucking banger, man.
I will come home to finish the rest of it. Thank you for the lengthy upload, and always good to see you around here.
Can’t wait to see what you think!
I'm glad you are back with another part to this amazing what if, I was expecting Launch to be with Raditz but being with Suno is not unwelcomed, him and Suno having Winter is nice and the humans training on Yardrat is also another great thing since they deserve the spotlight sometimes, I love the new look you gave Raditz and the giving him and Winter grade 4 and giving Winter Super Saiyan 2 at the end, I really enjoyed this part and hope the next comes out soon, I think in the Buu saga Piccolo might come in as a pawn to Babidi since he wasn't friends with Gohan in the present so he might end up coming in, also Winter training with Krillin or Tien in their respected schools.
Glad you liked Winter and Suno. Also you gave me some amazing ideas for the next part!
Bruh the radditz arc alone is so much more creative than I was ready for. Top tier what ifs so many end up in the same ruts.
I loved how you didnt only focused on training but also interactions and dialogue, deserves a sub and the wait was worth
Thanks so much for the sub I really appreciate it!
@@MangaAdventures keep going, you can go far
HE'S BACK
YES SIR!!!
I absolutely love Raditz's ssj design! It's amazing! And not only did you give the Z-warriors Kaioken, you sent them all to Yardrat as well! This makes me really happy.
That said, introducing Raditz to Eighter and Suno was a very interesting direction, as well as very novel. That's not something you see fanfic writers do, and I think it was a great idea. Also, Winter is a very nice name for his daughter and it makes perfect sense. I don't know if you're open to it, but I would love to see a separate video of depicting Raditz and Winter bonding together. I'm a glutton for slice-of-life... every once in a while.
I look forward to your newest post whenever it happens. Take care my friend!
Yo MA!! I just wanted to say I really enjoyed part 3 of this story! I loved how you made not only Raditz a more relevant character but also making the human Z fighters more relevant too. It was awesome imagining Tien, Krillin, Chiatzu, and Yamcha using Kiaoken and Spirit control and even having them use the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to prepare for Cell was awesome too even though they didn't get to fight the Big Boss but still really great! Great job man 👏. Hope there's a part 4 coming🤞but if not that fine.
Bless up 🔥
🙏🏿
I would have enjoyed more " fluff" but I really love this story and can't wait to see what you do with the Buu saga. Keep up the good work your awesome man
Thanks man
Thank you for coming back to this what if scenario. You produce high quality stories that delve into the motivations and personalities of each character. I always thought the humans could have been more relevant if they continued gravity training after learning the kaiokin. Great job sending them to Yardrat. What would happen if the humans got the same potential unlock that Gohan got from that elderly kaioshin? Could they possibly learn a new form based off of those ultimate/mystic forms. Would they even need to learn God ki at that point? People forget that Tien is a genius and a quick study when it comes to learning new moves and techniques.
This was dope man. If I could make a sugestion for a future what if: What if Caulifla was sent to Earth with Goku.
Oh this would be amazing.
Glad to see that you are OK, Manga Adventures.
By the way, can you explain what happened to you during the year?
Also, can you do the story of Krillin being born with Frieza's potential?
Busy with work and home life
> Gotten it from biting Frieza's tail.
OK dude tha'ts now headcannon.
Tien and Krillen being the next generation of thier respective schools in a healthy rivalry to push eachother? That is wholesome.
Gohan v Winter felt very Obi-Wan vs Anakin. A defensive tactical fighter verses someone who has more raw strength but is very 'wall of attacks' in how they approach problems.
Love this story dude, please it going and have you ever thought about what if Goku died early?
Ey glad to see you returned finally with a banger of a video. Love what you did with the humans. Kaioken, spirit training, having Tien and Yamcha completely body 19 and 20 was a great decision to give them relevance, while saving Cell for the saiyans. Plus they went into the ROSAT (like they should have in canon). A great fanservice moment would have definitely been the 4 humans, after they come back from Yardrat, challenging Goku and Raditz to a 2 v 4 just to see how they measure up now after all their training, or a 3 v 4 if you want to include Gohan.
Raditz meeting Eighter was great. He was one of the characters I first thought of from the ending of part 2. Now bringing back SUNO of all characters and having Raditz get with her, I don't think many people called that. I'm sure there's quite a few people not familiar with the original Dragonball wondering who Suno even is. I'm kinda shocked you didn't have Raditz mention that he's Gokus brother though. Suno knowing Goku and all, I'd love to know her reaction when she finds out, and Gokus reaction to seeing her again. Really curious to see what Tien and Krillin starting those martial arts schools will lead too in terms of plot and character interactions.
Really appreciate the love to humans in this.
This series is pretty great!
I love the video man, always a great day when you upload! You seem a bit down though, I hope you're okay my friend, prayers being sent for you 🙏♥️
My lil brother's bday was on last Wednesday. He wished for your return. I'm gonna show him this. I can't even imagine how happy he's gonna be. Good to have you back, dude. Pls update frequently in the community tab.
Tell your little brother I said happy birthday
@@MangaAdventures Thanks man
I would definitely watch an hr long upload just for you, bro.
I think what we have is just enough to gather our own context on how that happened, based on the details.
I love it, man. Gohan not getting SSJ2 is a bit different and a nice diversion from usual, with Winter unlocking it instead. I like that the Humans continue to be relevant in the fight against the Androids, and later will spread their teachings (Tien and Krillin) with the world. I can't wait to see what you do with the seven year timeskip with Goku being alive, but Piccolo is still out there. Will Gohan still find him and soften him again or will this turn out differently?
Maybe high mortal level cus of students of tien, krillin and stronger Z fighters
i enjoy this story and even understand the power scaling of everyone currently, im interested to see how the buu arc goes with everyone at this point well beyond their canon selves, well except gohan but i think it's nice because it more to how he fights in sense of it being a necessity other than fun. i hope maybe he sees it as fun after his match with winter and maybe even after meeting videl. im even more curious if super Saiyan 3 will be of any relevance in this timeline.
I can’t wait for the next part
I'm just happy da boi manga back I been waitin months for a new vid to drop
Sorry for the wait bro
@@MangaAdventures bro ur vids are right up there with Salad Saiyan and Carthu Dojo in my opinion at least.
Really enjoyed this part man Hope you make the next part soon
Best of luck
Thank you
IM SO GLAD YOURE BACK
Glad to be back!
Nice work. I would like to see if there is a way to catch Piccolo up to useful and have him join up with the other z fighters
I like the direction of this what if
Nice to see you again, the wait is always worth it
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it!
This story has been amazing so far, but I have to admit, I think Cell should have been stronger, all this amazing data and yet Cells is caught lacking against Goku in the end
Buuut the most interesting thing is, you overlooked present timeline Cell, and if he's still alive there's a possibility of him becoming a threat in the future, and maybe he won't even need the androids to be a threat (especially if he gets Kaioken)
Your back my dude Let's goooo
Let’s go
@@MangaAdventures YesSir more Series are coming soon at last
Nice to see you back dude!
Thanks bro!
I like that you used Note as the character model for Winter. Good use of assets.
Missed seeing you around, man. I bet life's just busy.
@@leisurelyindex yes, it has been. Thank’s for thinking of me.
Such an incredible story I would have even watched the hour long version
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it
Nice to see you back
Nice to be back
Good to see you back
Thanks man!
Clicked so fast, glad you are back my bro
I’m glad to see you in the comments bro!
It was great! I’d like to see that hour+ version #ReleasetheMangaCut
Suuuup I like these man
If there’s a part 4 could they maybe end up having Bulma activating, and reprogramming #16 to be good, and find him based off not wanting present cell to activate and try to time travel in light of future cell? That way 16 can be in the Buu saga
Lol goku got the heart virus from biting friezas tail
That was hilarious
Hell yeah man, been missing your vids
Thanks man
Loved this part, great to have back!
Thanks always great to see you in the comments!
Welcome back my man.
Also ayy you did read are comments and suggestions.
Swear to God if People still belive the heart virus came from Yardrat I'm gonna riot. Everything in the series points to it being an earth bases virus
Thanks King!
"My OC becomes SSJ2 because I need them to be the coolest and strongest"
What if goku turned super saiyan as kid when krillin was killed by tambourine?
What if goku and broly were twins with the same potential?
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Please keep on going man
Will do!
Do a part 2 of what if gohan went to king kai
I’d really like a small vid of just the dialogue between Raditz and Winter.
As for the Buu arc, nobody knows FSF, so Buu’s gonna be an absolute monster, as per usual, if he’s released. But things seem perfectly set up for Buu to not be released at all.
Dabura can’t turn enough warriors to stone, and with Krillin and Tien being as serious as they are here, those two are the biggest threats to Buus revival, and the only person viable for Babidi to possess is Piccolo, who of course would return to his “nobody destroys the world that belongs to ME!” Mentality of the Saiyan Invasion Saga, and break out of Babidis control, and that’s even IF Babidi can get him in the first place.
Tien is likely the largest danger to Buus revival, with his Yardratian Duplication technique allowing him to be in many places at once, and rushing the wizard directly, unable to be stopped by the sorcerers minions, who also have to deal with the others.
hell yeah
Yay
Let goo🎉
Super Saiyan 2 first saying to reach it is now still the grandchild of Bardock but in this case the child of Raditz
Can you make a what if where goku has a twin sister or what if kakarot and goku were twins
This is pretty great man. Buu arc is going to be really short since Raditz and Goku have a better relationship so no majin hijinks.
Only sad part is Big Green of this timeline hasn't gone through the character development like the one from the future
Yo MA , I love your storytelling, now you have a new subscriber! Here's a little story I would love to hear somebody say. What if Goku somehow some way ended up with vados and they had a child. Put that in your brain and try to make a good DBZ series out of it
I’ll definitely put it my brain and see what comes out
@@MangaAdventures I can't wait. Lol
I think you want another RUclipsr in mind, Mah boy Manga Adventures makes great most definitely possible what ifs and no offense, that idea seems impossible as Angels can't interfere with mortal affairs.
Just cz this time-line got changed that kami can unlock potential doesn't mean future trunks' time-line would change tho, I would of preferred if his time-line was unaffected
Yo what if Goku had Gohan's potential
please do what if goku was born with gotens potential
Manga Adventures back from the dead with a banger of an episode, well done!
That being said, regarding cell, if Gero made the androids stronger by using a stronger goku and vegeta as reference, wouldn't Cell be stronger as well? Epsecially if this Cell has Vegeta's DNA alongside Raditz, it wouldn't be a huge difference but its one more saiyan in his dna pool.
I still think Cell would've been whooped tbf, I just think this Cell would at least be stronger than canon Cell. And a hypothetical Super Perfect Cell in this scenario mightve been enough to contend with Goku at the very least
This version of cell was definitely stronger by at least 2-4xs maybe more but it still wouldn’t be enough to face this version of goku so I didn’t bring it up
@@MangaAdventures Fair.
Part 4
pls do a what if called what if goku trained in the hbtc in the 5 year time skip pls
Part 1
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Part 2
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For narrative reasons gohan should still whoop cell instead of golu because cell should get the chance to go super perfect idk
You hyped up everybody with the yardratian abilities but you barely show them off using them and nobody used forced spirit fission.
I do love everything you did with winter though it's hard to make an OC and I think you did well
wait, if he's 10x stronger.... doesn't that make him nearing the strength of or stronger than buu, Idrc if he's stronger than Cell or not, but I just wanted to know.
What If suggestion - What if Goku was born as an elite Saiyan?
Sounds fun I might tackle it
Does multiple theories about it🤔
So modern cell still is growing? Uh oh
Oh crap I forgot about Present Cell. Yeah he's growing for sure. 👍
Goddanm your alive bruh 😭❤️
Just barely 😅
@@MangaAdventures You like the Sasuke of the What if community ong 🤣 The tru Shadow hokage 🤣💪
This bid hilarious because most people don’t know who I am in the community 😂
@@MangaAdventures There may be something to that, but the City will always know how you hold us down, ten toes my guy 💯❤️
Can you please finish what if uub was the protagonist of GT
ngl that ssj2 on winter is kinda of bs ngl
29:35 gohan wasnt 8n super saiyan 2, it’s clear in the manga when someone is in super saiyan 2, there’s always lightning and different hair
There isn’t always lightning when someone is a ssj2
@@MangaAdventures in the dbz manga there is
@@MangaAdventures gohan stated he was angry but couldn’t get that angry when goku said to let his anger out like he did against cell
@@runeuchihawhatifsandgaming3783 1. A rage boost is different from a transformation. Gohan has had rage boost way before he ever went ssj2 or even ssj1
2. When gohan went ssj2 against Kibito Vegeta and Goku said he was stronger when he was a kid but he clearly had lightning there are you saying he wasn’t ssj2 there either?
@@MangaAdventures who would goku compare dabura to, the cell he fought or the cell gohan fought or the cell he wasn’t even there to help against, cell was stated to need to go all out to dodge gohans attacks before gohan went ssj2 which means when he fought goku he wasn’t going all out, plus remember zenkai boosts, cell likely got one after the instant kamehameha than senzu bean, than we get super perfect cell which goku wasn’t even there for so I’d say g9ku was comparing dabura to the cell he fought, toriyama never forgets to draw lightning in the dbz manga and when gohan went ssj2 against kibito it was still recently after extremely soon after video was beaten down
I wouldn't put goku above cell because although gero stopped watching goku after the fought with vegeta the super computer creating cell and programming the androids kept watching and collecting data. This is seen when future cell has data on trunks not believing he could beat the androids. The super computer tuned the androids in canon making them stronger than the ones in the future timeline to keep up with the Z fighters 3 years of training. This would lead to a stronger cell coming from the future absorbing stronger dormant androids. Only weaker because he didn't absorb any humans to get the androids. I would put this cell at about 1.75 times stronger than canon ss2 goku.
The super computer didn’t program the androids it only programmed cell so their powers would be the same. As for power wise the super computers job was to gather dna necessary for the perfect bio android if it felt like it had enough dna it wouldn’t gather more no matter how strong the person was which is why it didn’t gather the dna of gohan in the future timeline and as explained by cell himself didn’t gather the dna of future trunks in the present timeline because it had enough saiyan dna which is insane because trunks bodied both frieza and cold but the super computer gathered their dna instead meaning no cell wouldn’t get stronger because he has the same dna as canon
@@MangaAdventures I guess we'll have to see how the still incubating cell in gero's lab turns out in this scenerio since it should appear around 19-21 years in the future, based off of trunks' age when cell killed him in the future. Placing it a few years after canon end of Z.
@@MangaAdventures do you think the super computer would register cell as a unique life form and attempt to collect a sample of perfect future cell for the still incubating present cell even if it was to expedite the incubation process? Just A thought I've had before that i don't think anyone has addressed or mentioned. Imagine an imperfect cell equal to or stronger than perfect cell.
@@Demon_Hunter417 not sure but even if it doesn’t it would gather the dna of dabura who’s just as strong although there are stronger opponents than them like majin buu,
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
I miss picolo
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Mr.quick draw!
11:13 This ain't My Hero Academia bro
do what if kid goten became a evil majin and do what if kid goten know the truth about the tournament of power and the ultra instinct
Lol you really want to start a whole new series 🤨. Stop it get some help.
@@MP_Highlights shut up
Try this.
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You weren't supposed to return until the year 2730, what are your doing here
I traveled through time to deliver this video
Don't low blow their power level pls make I hate when people low blow
Who am I downplaying?
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In my opinion, there's no way Yamcha would learn a technique just so he could run from a fight. He's not Vegeta, and there's no example of him attempting to run from a fight in canon. People gotta stop w/ this cowardly Yamcha narrative. If anything, he would learn Instant Transmission to use in conjunction w/ his Wolf Fang Fist to outmaneuver & surprise attack his opponent.
True in the first half of the series but after (arguably during) the android saga he gave up on fighting and saw his efforts as futile being comic relief in the series. Even if you ignore Super it’s pretty clear in the buu saga that his passion for fighting is gone. he doesn’t enter the world tournament he doesn’t even go with Goku and the others to fight babidi
@@MangaAdventures That's all irrelevant though, as my point wasn't about him retiring from fighting, it was about him not learning a technique so he could run from a fight. Something which, again, never happens in any iteration of the canon series. Not to mention, the saga you're on, the Android saga, isn't the Buu saga and shows the opposite of Yamcha showing up to fights even when he knows he has no chance against the villains. Besides, Krillin has retired from fighting multiple times as well, but no one would ever suggest he'd run from a fight.
@@Imperia1Wrath you said people gotta stop with the cowardly Yamaha and it’s clear he was a coward after the android saga. My comment isn’t irrelevant he didn’t want to fight babidi he didn’t want to enter the buu saga tournament. In super it’s heavy on the comedy which doubles his cowardly nature so I can see why people see him as such. As for my story I never called him a coward I said he could use instant transmission just in case they get in over their head and can make a quick escape. A strategic retreat isn’t cowardly he could leave to heal up/get senzu beans etc. If a fatal attack comes there way that would have killed them he could instant transmission out the way. So on and so forth.
@@MangaAdventures How is retirement being "cowardly"? That's like saying retired athletes are cowards cause they don't play their sport anymore. It was never said he didn't wanna fight Babidi, just as in Super it was never said he didn't wanna fight against Frieza's henchmen, or compete in ToP. In the case of the latter, it's the opposite cause he was clearly shown wanting to fight in the tournament & waiting on Goku to show up.
The only reason that narrative gets played up in Super the way that it does, is just like the "Goku bad dad" joke, is because aside from the horrible writing of Super, fans like yourself keep propagating it when it's simply not true. If it were, you'd be able to reference a scene where Yamcha outright refused to fight a villain. But we both know that doesn't exist. Your reasoning didn't mention anything about a "strategic retreat", your framing made it sound like he would use it to run if there was danger. While that may not have been your intention, I'm just telling you as a Yamcha fan who's had to endure this false narrative for decades, that's how people who already look down on him are going to interpret it.
@@Imperia1Wrath so are we ignoring that after getting impaled by android 20 he actually refuses to fight but only agrees to come along to watch? (Chapter 340)
If you don’t want to use the dr gero example because he does show up that’s fine I’m only using it because he himself said he is not fighting and you said he never said anything of the sort
When Androids 17,18 and 16 all come to kami house looking for Goku (who at this point is now at the lookout) only Piccolo leaves with them. (Chapter 366) Yes Piccolo tells them not to come but why not join for support they basically just let Piccolo fight a possible 3v1??? It’s because they don’t think they can win a question posed by yamcha and answered by tien with a “not against those 3”
Later when imperfect cell arrives tien says he can’t just be a bystander anymore and flies to go help piccolo meanwhile krillin goes to get the deactivation remote. (Chapter 369) Yamcha does nothing and isn’t even shown in panels. Doesn’t matter where he was he could have also sensed cell’s ki like tien and decide to join the fight but chose not to.
These are three clear and unarguable explains of Yamcha not wanting to/not going to fights before he retired as a martial artist.
On to the buu saga after he retired as a fighter you are right me using him not entering the tournament is a bad argument but I stand by him not joining the other z fighters to face babidi being a point against him. He saw gohan get his energy absorbed and everyone flying off to chase after them he even comments something must be up but he decides to stay in his seat? (Chapter 445)
Don’t know what your definition of running from a fight is but for me having the choice to fight but choosing not too is running from a fight. Using athletes as example like you did if a ufc fighter chooses not to go against his opponent because he is stronger and knows he would lose he would be seen as cowardly.
I understand you’re a Yamacha fan Yamcha is a cool character being the first in the series to give Goku a challenge and has some really cool attacks like the wolf fang fist and the spirit ball but ultimately you can’t be mad how someone interrupts a character I gave a few examples to show you how someone could interrupt him as cowardly I myself don’t see him as such just to be clear so I would like to apologize about my framing of why he learns instant transmission.
The heart virus was never actually confirmed on where it came from. I personally believed that it was contracted from the way Goku lived as a kid on Mt. Paozou before he met Bulma. There’s also the possibility that he contracted the heart virus while living in Grandpa Gohan as well. I personally think that it’s the first one. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the second possibly I said.
never confirmed but the virus could have been made by gero himself.
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc
make what if gohan alayays trained NOT AFTER The cell arc