@ERICK TOMAS GALINDO PAZAN I believe we can agree to disagree on the duration of these 24 hour day/nights as it is not foundational to our eternal salvation. God is... Jesus Christ is... His birth, cross, death, Resurrection and return is... Spirit filled righteous kingdom living is... But I understand where you come from.. I've been encouraged by answersingenesis as well. God Bless....
again - an excellent discussion by both Professors..great testimony and motivation to youngsters ....to our LORD be all the praise...I am enjoying these talks during the Christmas break
Dr tour, I found a interview of yours on end times productions a few months ago. Since then I've keep seeking out your videos. I was born catholic, turned my back on God out of anger. You along with the great awakening, has help me to seek out a personal relationship with God and Jesus. I call you my Eskimo because your sharing/story has helped bring me out of the storm in to God's shelter. Thank you for your service and message
Hi Brother, Rural Alaska(?) The donor manager for a Jerusalem based TV station operated by Jewish believers was raised in Rural Alaska. Maybe there are JEWISH ESKIMOS!
Thanks so much for that. I feel so strengthened in my faith by both your witnesses so thank you so much James Tour (Organic Chemistry) and Fritz Schaefer (Chemistry). I'm was trained as a Physicist (at Cambridge UK) just up to graduate level. It means so much that I can hear people like John Lennox who is a trained academically 'practising' Cambridge/Oxford Mathematician. Thank good God for you all 3 professionals! If only I could now find a younger than me (I'm 51) professional Physicist who is fervently and evidently Christian now, please God. Who writes books about science and religion, please Lord! Amen
Dr.Tour, your excitement about the amazing creator Jesus Christ is so powerful, given the scientist that you are! God has given you a sharp mind, and given you a form of glory, and you do such a compelling job of returning that glory to Him! I am so impressed that you have taken you precious time to focus on telling others about our Jesus!
only he is wrong , the science we do made his field ruclips.net/video/Jf72o6HmVNk/видео.html he can pretend it does not exist but it only takes a simple google search to see what industrial process we have that use the same chemicals that existed in history pre-biology , we just now use machines that makes it more efficient to give a yigger yield for industrial reasons , he is a Charlton using your love for your theology to fuel his fame while making shit up knowing people like you dnt understand chemistry or how it works
Really enjoyed this podcast, Dr. Tour. Thank you for bringing on Dr. Schaefer.. Looking forward to see more top scientists on this podcast, and that these chats would debunk the "science vs faith" myth.
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ??? of course if we knew everyone would be a believer
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wonder fuller if you want to know more I recommend you the RUclips channel: Inspiring Philosophy, he has videos about the historicity of the Gospels and how and when were written, and more. You can also see videos from Dan Wallace a New Testament scholar who studies papirus. And I also recommend you to read: - Saint Paisios of Mount Athos by Hieromonk Isaac - My elder Joseph the Hesychast by elder ephraim. Both books are lifes from saints of the Orthodox Church from the XX century. Full of miracles, spirituality, wisdom and theology. Have a great day.
Can't wait for this great Christian cientists debates. Real science, serious learning. Many thanks for your enlightening to the common lay people, like me. The Lord Jesus bless you. Amen.
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ??? of course if we knew everyone would be a believer
@@Sportliveonline Answer to your question: How do you explain the Pharisees? Some believed after the resurrection.. The Apostle Paul for one. But, the majority were so hooked on their power trip that they even started the rumor of the Disciples stealing Jesus' body from the tomb. Just like today, I know it really happened, the evidence of the early church, especially, the Christian Church in Rome that wasn't started by any Apostle, a gentile Church. The fact that the Temple was destroyed as predicted by Jesus Christ himself. The Temple was totally leveled, not a stone remained of the temple. The historical evidence of outside writers and Roman historians. 2,000 years later they are still finding evidence of the early Church that hasn't been erased by the Roman Catholic church. That's for starters. You might want to know that your imperfect and a sinner first. Talk to God about it, he's available anytime and all lines are always open.
@@Sportliveonline Why don't you try writing your own myth today and see how many disciples you gain that are willing to leave their comfortable existence and die for it? Can you get atleast 500? Do you think you would wind up with billions of believers after a few centuries. What makes you think the disciples were able to pull off such a grand scheme of things within the same generation it happened? Could you or anyone you know pull that off? Something extraordinary happened. Something that got people, many who knew Jesus and his family, to say it's ok to die today if I have to. It's not like the people followed after someone in a different city. These things happened in real time, in their own home town and they were willing to die for it. If Jesus and his disciples were known to be a bunch of charlatans, I'm pretty sure all of this would have been easily squashed a long time ago, and yet here we are discussing it today.
56:32 Amen!!! dr. tour! you do need to write something about this ! you got my face sticking to the screen with this incredible story , it like reading acts for me
@4:50 Tour: "As an educated person, how can you believe in something so amazing as the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ?" Schaeffer: "Well, I think the historical evidence is very strong. The alternative is to conclude that Jesus' closest friends were engaged in a _vast_ conspiracy to feed themselves to the lions. And the probability of that seems very small to me." Tour: "Well that was concise" 😁
@@greg5023 the resurrection of Jesus is not an oral disagreement the proof is inside you where your dead spirit and soul abides, you necessarily don't need mere proud knowing nothing by doting about questions and strife of words. if you are a man of the book go and learn what it mean in proverbs 20:27 "the spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly." however as i said your spirit is function-less and dead cause of sin. you witness in your self which is true,how? for that you do you allow not: for what you would, that do you not; but what you hate, that you do . ..... if then you do that which you would not, you consent that you are enslaved under sin. what then? your spirit needs to quicken! consequently through the candle the darkness shines.
that's a good answer for atheists to hear. Another good answer for them whenever they accuse us as 'being religious' is this: Christianity is not a religion - it's a RELATIONSHIP. They never have anything to say after that. (You can even explain that it's because Jesus is living - i.e.we have a living relationship with Him). But I'll try to remember that one about the vast conspiracy/feeding themselves to lions. Brilliant. Oh - here's another one I like - just remember the word MUP. Then it's easier to remember MUP is an acronym for Mindless Unguided Process. Because atheists - if they are evolutionists, too - believe we come from a common ancestor to chimpanzees - and, ultimately, that the same brain those atheists/evolutionists have and that they (presumably) claim has some claim to truth - is simply formed from the Mindless Unguided Process of atoms randomly moving around. That cannot be philosophically true. Is your interlocutor atheist/evolutionist concerned with truth? If s/he is, s/he cannot think that they are actually thinking in a true way. They also have nothing to say after that. But if they do - you can refer to CS Lewis he uses this argument in one of his books (Mere Christianity I think). Even Darwin notes this possible error in his theory (in a letter - I think the letter is to Wallace, but I'm not sure). Anyway, in my opinion the main thing is to save our strength for fighting with the devil - not with non-believers. We must put forth the above points, then leave them and pray for them diligently. Maybe they will be saved one day. I know I was a fervent atheist and evolutionist once upon a time... The Lord be glorified.
This reminded me of the time I really enjoyed talking with Fritz when he visited the Australian National University during the 1990's. He even drove me to Sydney and introduced me to the audio version of Crime and Punishment. And a 4 hour run from the ANU around Scrivener Dam and back by the Commonwealth Bridge should not go unremarked. He helped me think more deeply about both Science (Quantum Chemistry) and Christianity!
As a scientist I am amazed that there are world quality scientists who are true believers! Thank you Jim and Fritz. What a powerful testimony! This video is outstanding!!
Excelent, Dr. Tuor. If this is mainly a site for non beleivers, beleive me that it makes beleivers regoice about their faith, when it is exposed so well related to scientific matters. Thank you for your podcasts, Dr. James. May the Lord let you reach milions of non beleivers. And I also recomend to others your personal testimony of you spectacular escounter with Christ. I find it one of the best testimonies ever given. I am a catholic mexican priest, and I was crying of joy when I heard your testimony in ONE FOR ISRAEL. I feel so happy you love our Lord Jesus so dearly. That is what I personally intend to do with every thing I do and every person I meet. I dont have any doubt that any non beleiver that looks to the video of the testimony of you conversion to Christ, with an open mind and a noble heart, will end beleiving and loving Jesus. Bless you Dr. Tour. Fr. Jorge Fuentes.
Thank you brother Jim and Fritz. Wonderful lecture by Fritz. Many great scientists today and the past know where ALL the evidence points to: the Creator of the universe. Jesus died for our sins & rose from the dead to make us right with God & to help us know this Creator personally and for an eternity.
All the glory and honor be to God, our Father of glory, and His beloved Son Jesus Christ!!! This “Science & Faith Podcast” it’s truly a great blessing to all humankind!!! Thank You so much FATHER OF GLORY for these faithful and extraordinary scientists: Dr James Tour, Dr Stephen Meyer, Dr Henry Schaefer, Dr Joshua Swamidass, Dr John Lennox (next week), and many other dear brothers and dear sisters in Christ Jesus!!! DR TOUR: we truly hope you can invite Dr. Michael Denton to your Podcast very soon. It will be marvelous!!! Psalm 19:1: “The heavens declare the glory of God, / And the expanse proclaims the work of His hands.”
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ??? of course if we knew everyone would be a believer
Unfortunately the time this conversation it's starting, in Jersey will be 12.30 AM. I'll be sleeping. I hope I'll be able to watch tomorrow on RUclips. Many thanks and God bless you two.
blessed was that day when I saw your testimony for the first time through "one for Israel" couple years ago in RUclips video; from then on I hardly miss any of your preaching, teaching, speech, testimony, or you name it. in fact im not from the academic world and might not understand quite well all science and technology in that level, however intuitively( not by my mind but by my spirit) comprehend the beauties of nature that is made by God through your academic excellency accompanied with your humble Lord Jesus discipleship. let me quote two verses one from the new and one from the old testament books that best figures when i think about you, ..... acts 14:17" nevertheless He left not Himself without witness,..." and 1 king 19:18 "yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto baal, and every mouth which has not kissed him." even one more Isa 8:18 "behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion." you are God's plumb bob in your age at this very corrupt time where mega church pastors and bishops are adulterating the word of God( Isa 28:17 righteousness to the plummet:). your flawless faith in Jesus, your longevity plus your academic excellence and many more strengthen, build up, promote and flourishing like me a petty Jesus hungry unprofitable person and I believe many more others. Dr. James, Yeshua HaMashiach bless your lengthen of days. you are the most beloved brother in His kingdom.
I love the irony of the quotation of Lederman claiming no one knows anything about the very beginning, "zero", but tells us what "the very beginning" was like. Oh boy! 20:01
21:56 Roger Penrose is lovely! He did a very interesting debate with William Lane Craig of Unbelievable with Justin Brierley . He is interesting and humble
@Ahmad Shamil A chemist who doesn't understand evolution - Sandwalk Mar. 16, 2014 - So what does James Tour have to say about evolution that attracts so much attention? He begins by saying that he is not a supporter of ...
I was expecting a more evidence grounded briefing. What other scientist think about God is encouraging in the sense that there are folks out there way smarter than me have faith, but I was hoping to hear a bit more insight to God's signature in the details of these theories.
@Jacob Howell he he- I know: 'wtf' stands for 'What the frankincense', yes? Yes - by your remark 'wtf' you have proven to me that indeed you are NOT a Christian! For, as Paul says in Ephesisns 4:29: 'Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.' You certainly gave NO grace with your little 'wtf'. He - he. YOU SIR HAVE JUST BEEN PROVEN NOT TO BE A CHRISTIAN. YOU SIR, HAVE BEEN.......................................BUSTED..........................................................
wrong sir. Your lack of Scripture knowledge doth astound. Tell me, pray, wilt thou - what is the difference between judging and spiritually discerning?Why does Jesus both say 'judge not' and yet He also says 'judge righteously'? (google the verse - I think it's around Matthew 7 or so). Don't know?he-he
@Jacob Howell yes - I found it - it's Matthew 7:24. By the way, I never called you an idiot. One would hope that my post clarifying that I hoped you weren't offended might have edified you or someone... But there may be some truth amongst the things you say. I'd be the first to say I need to improve my Christian walk. Hang on, what the frankincense am I saying? I'm speaking like you really are a Christian - rather than the evolutionist- non believer my spiritual discernment tells me you are (Matthew 7:24).
Does the constant expansion of the universe effect the expression of time as measured in our physical calculations? Such as the age of the universe or the half lives of atoms?
No. The way to think of it is each galaxy is approximately at rest so the laws of physics remain unchanged within each galaxy. Its just the space between galaxies is expanding.
@white christian yer The Greeks certainly did ~~~have you read Shakespear >>>??? or charles Dickens ?? and the Book of Mormon made up a whole bunch of names he he
Whoa - Dr. Tour - RE - video time around around 54:40 with your conversation on the plane - I AM a reformed Baptist and my maternal grandma was 8% Abrahamic (clueless of the tribe) and my mom thus 4% Abrahamic, which makes ME 2% in descendance from Abraham. But per Scripture I am 100% a child of Promise, no less than Abraham, Moses, or David. I AM a staunch Reformed Baptist (which really means, put simply - predestined salvation + credo-baptism which means full immersion, not water sprinkled on an unaware baby's head, so per Christ's education of Nicodemus that evening on the roof, upon one who has ALREADY been touched by the Paraclete are those to be Baptized. The Spirit moves like the wind, and cannot be sought. One is either quickened, or he is not. There IS NO seeker). Please recall your experience in your dorm room - you REALLY think you chose that? Or that you invoked that? Are you arrogant enough to boast YOU chose Christ? I think not sir. I would have had that SAME witness on the plane - so as much as I love your teachings, I have NO IDEA here you get your hyper-Calvinist claims there. We in fact DO know that Yahweh not only determines the ends (predestination, a la Romans 8:28-30, Romans 9, or Ephesians 2, to name a modicum) but also the means "Faith comes by hearing" - so as much as I really LOVE you, you can take that hyper-Calvinist myth and revise that, good brother. You've got us (meaning, actual exegesis) pegged wrong, sir. And please note Jesus was baptized at 30 years old, did so as a believer, and subjected himself to deep-water (immersion) baptism - or should I just say "baptism"? - NOT the sprinkling of water on an infant's head whose only interest and awareness is filling his diaper and the next chance at his mommy's teet. Biblical exegesis commands me to follow Christ's example: credo-baptism, full-immersion, "for righteousness' sake". No clue where your false accusations against real Christians, the Reformed Baptists, comes from. All that said, I adore your teachings. I only ask you to explore what a real reformed baptist (meaning: original baptist, or simply - 1st century, post-ascension Christian) accepts via Berean exegesis from the Father's Holy Word. So-called "free will baptists" ignore exegeting Romans 8:28-30, Romans 9, or Ephesians 2 and arrogantly think THEY chose Christ - upon which they can boast in Heaven. Scripture precludes this.
Science and faith. I was just thinking at the close of this: science is faith. For we believe that what we see in the material world is intelligible, and actually able to be investigated.
Dr. Tour, do you consider yourself a Christian or a Messianic Jew? If the latter, how does the doctrine of Messianic Judaism differ from ordinary protestant Christianity? I was surprised to see you described in various places online as a Messianic Jew, but I don't think I've ever seen you use that label for yourself. Thank you in advance for your response, and thanks for a thought provoking show.
sir can u plz give the answer of my question in one word .if u give answer it will be honour for me. And the question is... Is life come from nothing? and is abiogenesis true or not ?
When someone says to me "I know some parts of the bible are not meant to be taken literally" I become very very concerned. Can God lie or can He not? He can not. The bible is not hard to understand if you are really trying.
We should take the Bible literally where it is meant to be taken literally but some parts are not meant to be taken literally. Language uses metaphor to communicate ideas. Jesus used a literary device known as a parable. Made up stories to teach spiritual Truth. The Psalms are in the genre of poetry, written to convey emotion in sometimes quite exaggerated ways. The Gospels are mostly history but aren't always told chronologically the way most of our current history books would likely be written. We must recognize the kind of literature we are reading and strive to understand the original intent of the author. Taking into account the culture and original audience is also important. Paul's letters were written to address specific problems in the early church and to explain the gospel of Christ to both Jewish and non-jewish audiences. We are to study to show ourselves approved. If it wasn't a little bit of a challenge that command would have simply been read to show yourself approved. The Bible can be inherent in its original form without necessarily being literal at all times.
Dr tour, I really appreciate the videos you are putting out. Please continue to do so. On this topic of the Big Bang and the origin of the universe, I would like to invite you to ponder this verse from the Quran: “ARE, THEN, they who are bent on denying the truth not aware that the heavens and the earth were [once] one single entity, which We then parted asunder? - and [that] We made out of water every living thing? Will they not, then, [begin to] believe?” In another translation (since Quran was revealed in Arabic): “Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” And on the expansion of the universe: “AND IT IS We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power; and, verily, it is We who are expanding it.” This unmistakable reference to the state of the universe before the Big Bang as well as the expansion of the universe after that, was revealed to prophet Muhammad more than a thousand and four hundred years ago. To put things into perspective, Edwin Hubble made the observation that the universe is expanding less than a 100 years ago. Knowing your love for Jesus Christ, I’d also like to tell you that Jesus Christ is one of the most highly regarded prophets in Islam, we believe in his miracles of bringing back the dead, as well as healing the blind and the leper with ALLAH’S permission.
He dwells in in us. Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
I suppose when this was originally aired, it was live streamed; I am getting here late. All the same I do have a question; Perhaps it will be answered even though it’s tardy? I note that you on several occasions in this video state the universe is 13.5 billion years old? I am curious as to the why of this statement? I have heard others make it. I am quite convinced that we live in a young universe as is stated in scripture. I don’t want to make this a divisive topic, but it seems to me that if we claim scripture to be the word of God, Yashua is God, He said I am the truth, then ultimately, we should come at the question, this question of the age of creation, with one overarching conclusion its young, and then understand why everything else. I have heard this a few times……we are able to recognize great distances within the universe over which light has obviously traveled and we know the speed of light so can calculate the time it would take to cross them. But I have not heard anyone explain how fast God stretched it out. After all, let’s say it was six thousand light years across at creation and God stretched it to its current size. The light would have stretched along with the space it was in and would not have actually been moving any faster, the space it was in moved, changed. How can anyone say we know how far light most have travelled so dogmatically that they would disagree with scripture?
@@derhafi Rob, you make two claims neither of which address the question I posed. One that the scribe who wrote the scriptures knew nothing of the universe and so could not be trusted in anything asserted, and two that scientists do know which is actually the question I am asking and that makes your response a circular argument or logical fallacy by circular reasoning. To address the first claim that the scribes know nothing of the universe; I would point out that they don’t profess to. The information they relate is reportedly given at the direction of God, who quite obviously has an extensive, indeed one might argue complete knowledge of the universe. So, to dismiss the scribes and their writings is an over step on your part as you have no way of determining the quality of their claims. As to the second claim that scientists do know and remaining consistent with my specific line of query, I point out the Oort cloud. This is an asserted imaginary as in unobservable, untestable, proposed rescue mechanism for an old universe. So, when you say science knows, I am not sure at all how you concluded that reliably? Your comment did nothing to address my question and has instead offered two unproven unprovable erroneous statements. Was it intended to be useful/helpful?
@@derhafi You literally added nothing to the conversation or his question. An atheist, trying to sound smart, who makes claims about the universe being eternally old, or coming from absolutely nothing, is also very funny. The Bible is not "superstition" and you have no way to support your statement, and do not remotely understand a word you're saying, on either side of the issue.
As Dr Tour, and many since St Augustine, when reading Gods Word, as recorded by ancient Hebrews, it's is necessary to understand the context of the "Book" being read. With the New Test for instance, we are very certain of the intended context and intent of the books, by the authors. For the Old Testament, we are in many cases left guessing, and in some cases by individuals who seem to think they know everything, asserting the context and intent. For example, you would not posit that when a person who reads the Book of Revelation, that when it describes a 7 headed beast who will come out of the sea, that it is literally asserting that an actual monster, with 7 heads will come out of the sea, right? Or in the Psalms, when it describes us as sheep, you probably don't think we actually, in reality, have wool, bleat and that sort of thing. Pertaining to the first half of Genesis, it comes from ancient Hebrews. We do not have early church historians and theologians to give us any clue. Pertaining to the speed of light, this falls under the argument that "God created the universe with the appearance of age", sort of like when He created Adam, He didn't create Adam as a fetus lying in the dirt, He created Adam as an adult. Could be... but why resort to such unscientific arguments when we aren't 100% certain what Genesis means? After reading Genesis, I think it is safe to say, with 100% certainty, that God created the universe, life, human-life in His image, with the ability to do good and evil, that there is a personal force for evil (Satan), that God and angels exist, and that God would send a savior to defeat Satan. I think it's a huge mistake to try to read Genesis, and go around telling people how old the universe is, or rather the speed of light is constant or not. I simply do not believe that is what God intended with the Book of Genesis, and it seems to have almost become heretical in my view, because people preach this like it were the Gospel of Jesus or something. Like The Great Commission was "Go and preach to the world that the universe is 6,000 years old, and the earth is not very old, convincing them that dinosaur fossils are fake, and lo I am with you always to the end of the age". That's my opinion...
I wish people would not try and use science as a "prove" for God. At least, and I am grateful to the two gentleman for that, they are not Young Earth creationists.
A chemist who doesn't understand evolution - Sandwalk Mar. 16, 2014 - So what does James Tour have to say about evolution that attracts so much attention? He begins by saying that he is not a supporter of ...
The problem is that spacetime is emergent, not fundamental. Consciousness is fundamental. What we "see" is an interface. See Dr Donald Hoffman's theory and book. "The Case Against Reality"
The picture starting to emerge from the last 40 years research in quantum gravity (which I expect this speaker knows very little about) is of spacetime as an emergent structure of an underlying deeper theory. There are some fairly simple thought experiments involving trying to make quantum measurements at the Planck scale to show this must be the case. This invalidates most of these old philosophical arguments.
[49 mins] What have simplicity, balance, order got to do with love. On the other hand what have pain, famine and disease which are key drivers of the evolutionary process got to do with love.
Dear Professor Tour, I watch your videos about the evolution with great interest. I would be very happy if you would consider being my guest at my small channel? There is a constant debate about this topic in Turkey as well. I think it would be very helpful to introduce your thoughts in evolution to Muslim people too. I imagine a simple interview that is for anyone who does not know much about the topic and thus cannot say anything against the dominant argument.
The only honest thing James did here, was the question at 3:00. And the answer for an educated man was very underwhelming. I mean the historic evidence from 2000 years ago, written in books which are copied over and over again is not very strong after all, now is it Fritz? And a good habit when you want too learn about say the "big bang" it's better that you first watch a video from Stephen Hawkings instead of these guys explaining that for you. isn't that right dear people?
We have more historical manuscripts for the new testimate than anything else that old. So if you want to say such things are unreliable, and faulty then you have to say that about pretty much all of history past 600 AD. So sure you could throw out the historicity of christianity, but you have to throw out everything else that old as well if you want to remain historically consistent.
God doesn't leave us in the dark that's why we have the written word. (It is written) Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. (ERV) In the same way, my words leave my mouth, and they don't come back without results. My words make the things happen that I want to happen. They succeed in doing what I send them to do.
My only challenge with the big bang is the age being proposed at ±13.7 which I believe is too young. There are 2 known stars pegged at 14.5±, so something is amiss. Also, the Milky Way is ±13.4 and is towards the universe's perimeter within what is called "Laniakea", and we have ±200 BILLION galaxies. Considering how long it takes a galaxy and suns to form there's no way 13.7 is even possible.
The Big Bang theory and Einstein's theories, to this layman, face a serious challenge by Pierre-Marie Robitaille, and Stephen Crothers, but their critiques do not in any way contradict the Bible in my mind. For the simple logical conclusion that existence without a cause just does not make any sense.
Thank you so much for setting up these talks. Love science and Love Jesus! For he is Risen!
As a student of Science, simply wow! Had the privilege of hearing Prof Schaefer in person many years ago. God bless you both.
@ERICK TOMAS GALINDO PAZAN I believe we can agree to disagree on the duration of these 24 hour day/nights as it is not foundational to our eternal salvation.
God is... Jesus Christ is... His birth, cross, death, Resurrection and return is... Spirit filled righteous kingdom living is...
But I understand where you come from.. I've been encouraged by answersingenesis as well.
God Bless....
@@JosephDaniel What did erick say that had his comment removed? I Loved this video, but I don't like comment filtering unless it was vulger.
Fabulous talk with wonderful quotes from renowned scientists who are either believers or close to that. Don’t miss this video.
Well, what can I say? I love these podcasts. Thank you, Dr. Tour! Thank you, Dr. Schaefer!
Thank you both. These discussions have far reaching impact for His glory!
again - an excellent discussion by both Professors..great testimony and motivation to youngsters ....to our LORD be all the praise...I am enjoying these talks during the Christmas break
Dr tour, I found a interview of yours on end times productions a few months ago. Since then I've keep seeking out your videos. I was born catholic, turned my back on God out of anger. You along with the great awakening, has help me to seek out a personal relationship with God and Jesus. I call you my Eskimo because your sharing/story has helped bring me out of the storm in to God's shelter. Thank you for your service and message
Hi Brother,
Rural Alaska(?)
The donor manager for a Jerusalem based TV station operated by Jewish believers was raised in Rural Alaska.
Maybe there are JEWISH ESKIMOS!
Enjoy your lectures and your faith. God bless you 🙏.
your interviews has the effect of a sermon to me. Praise God! Hallelujah
This is what I call enjoying a conversation. Thank both of you, absolutely beautiful end to end.
Thank you, Dr. James Tour, Dr. Fritz Schaefer for this amazing Podcast.
A truly fascinating discussion. Thank you both.
Thank you Dr. Tour and Dr. Schaefer. Very helpful and interesting.
Yes, this was very informative!
Thanks so much for that. I feel so strengthened in my faith by both your witnesses so thank you so much James Tour (Organic Chemistry) and Fritz Schaefer (Chemistry). I'm was trained as a Physicist (at Cambridge UK) just up to graduate level. It means so much that I can hear people like John Lennox who is a trained academically 'practising' Cambridge/Oxford Mathematician. Thank good God for you all 3 professionals!
If only I could now find a younger than me (I'm 51) professional Physicist who is fervently and evidently Christian now, please God. Who writes books about science and religion, please Lord! Amen
These podcasts have blessed me hugely. Thanks for all your hard work guys. Legends
Thank you Dr. Tour and Dr. Schaefer
Thank you so much D.R Tour, for all your hard work. So happy you can spread the good news.
Awesome, awesome!! I love this brother in Christ who is intelligent and wise. The beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord! Blessings Dr. Tour!
Dr.Tour, your excitement about the amazing creator Jesus Christ is so powerful, given the scientist that you are! God has given you a sharp mind, and given you a form of glory, and you do such a compelling job of returning that glory to Him!
I am so impressed that you have taken you precious time to focus on telling others about our Jesus!
only he is wrong , the science we do made his field ruclips.net/video/Jf72o6HmVNk/видео.html
he can pretend it does not exist but it only takes a simple google search to see what industrial process we have that use the same chemicals that existed in history pre-biology , we just now use machines that makes it more efficient to give a yigger yield for industrial reasons , he is a Charlton using your love for your theology to fuel his fame while making shit up knowing people like you dnt understand chemistry or how it works
Your rebuttal is a high school science teacher with a MA?!?
Are you …. No it’s a joke…. Right?
Really enjoyed this podcast, Dr. Tour. Thank you for bringing on Dr. Schaefer..
Looking forward to see more top scientists on this podcast, and that these chats would debunk the "science vs faith" myth.
Thanks very much much Dr. Tour for putting together these programs.
Awesome! Thanks God and James Tour for sharing this videos to the world.
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ??? of course if we knew everyone would be a believer
wonder fuller if you want to know more I recommend you the RUclips channel: Inspiring Philosophy, he has videos about the historicity of the Gospels and how and when were written, and more.
You can also see videos from Dan Wallace a New Testament scholar who studies papirus.
And I also recommend you to read:
- Saint Paisios of Mount Athos by Hieromonk Isaac
- My elder Joseph the Hesychast by elder ephraim.
Both books are lifes from saints of the Orthodox Church from the XX century. Full of miracles, spirituality, wisdom and theology.
Have a great day.
@@Sportliveonline It's the only book whose sum of its parts equals infinity.
@ look up Richard Carrier ~~
@@truthbebold4009 and the Koran yer ?
Can't wait for this great Christian cientists debates. Real science, serious learning. Many thanks for your enlightening to the common lay people, like me. The Lord Jesus bless you. Amen.
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ??? of course if we knew everyone would be a believer
@@Sportliveonline
Answer to your question:
How do you explain the Pharisees? Some believed after the resurrection.. The Apostle Paul for one.
But, the majority were so hooked on their power trip that they even started the rumor of the Disciples stealing Jesus' body from the tomb.
Just like today, I know it really happened, the evidence of the early church, especially, the Christian Church in Rome that wasn't started by any Apostle, a gentile Church. The fact that the Temple was destroyed as predicted by Jesus Christ himself. The Temple was totally leveled, not a stone remained of the temple.
The historical evidence of outside writers and Roman historians.
2,000 years later they are still finding evidence of the early Church that hasn't been erased by the Roman Catholic church.
That's for starters.
You might want to know that your imperfect and a sinner first.
Talk to God about it, he's available anytime and all lines are always open.
@@Sportliveonline Why don't you try writing your own myth today and see how many disciples you gain that are willing to leave their comfortable existence and die for it? Can you get atleast 500? Do you think you would wind up with billions of believers after a few centuries.
What makes you think the disciples were able to pull off such a grand scheme of things within the same generation it happened? Could you or anyone you know pull that off?
Something extraordinary happened. Something that got people, many who knew Jesus and his family, to say it's ok to die today if I have to.
It's not like the people followed after someone in a different city. These things happened in real time, in their own home town and they were willing to die for it. If Jesus and his disciples were known to be a bunch of charlatans, I'm pretty sure all of this would have been easily squashed a long time ago, and yet here we are discussing it today.
@@pt4963 Hindus ? Buddhist ?? millions
@@Sportliveonline Sorry but none of those gods claimed a physical ressurection.
56:32 Amen!!! dr. tour! you do need to write something about this ! you got my face sticking to the screen with this incredible story , it like reading acts for me
Fantastic presentation and discussion - thank you so much!
This deserves a million.
Glory! ... a ton of information!
Thank you for these videos.
Peace of Lord Jesus upon you and yours
@4:50
Tour: "As an educated person, how can you believe in something so amazing as the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ?"
Schaeffer: "Well, I think the historical evidence is very strong. The alternative is to conclude that Jesus' closest friends were engaged in a _vast_ conspiracy to feed themselves to the lions. And the probability of that seems very small to me."
Tour: "Well that was concise"
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@@greg5023 restating Schaefer, "the probabilities of that seem very low"
faith in what people wrote down ??
@@Sportliveonline faith in the best explanation of the beauty and goodness of life
Or you can embrace death and meaninglessness. It's your choice
@@greg5023 the resurrection of Jesus is not an oral disagreement the proof is inside you where your dead spirit and soul abides, you necessarily don't need mere proud knowing nothing by doting about questions and strife of words. if you are a man of the book go and learn what it mean in proverbs 20:27 "the spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly." however as i said your spirit is function-less and dead cause of sin. you witness in your self which is true,how? for that you do you allow not: for what you would, that do you not; but what you hate, that you do . ..... if then you do that which you would not, you consent that you are enslaved under sin. what then? your spirit needs to quicken! consequently through the candle the darkness shines.
that's a good answer for atheists to hear. Another good answer for them whenever they accuse us as 'being religious' is this: Christianity is not a religion - it's a RELATIONSHIP. They never have anything to say after that. (You can even explain that it's because Jesus is living - i.e.we have a living relationship with Him). But I'll try to remember that one about the vast conspiracy/feeding themselves to lions. Brilliant. Oh - here's another one I like - just remember the word MUP. Then it's easier to remember MUP is an acronym for Mindless Unguided Process. Because atheists - if they are evolutionists, too - believe we come from a common ancestor to chimpanzees - and, ultimately, that the same brain those atheists/evolutionists have and that they (presumably) claim has some claim to truth - is simply formed from the Mindless Unguided Process of atoms randomly moving around. That cannot be philosophically true. Is your interlocutor atheist/evolutionist concerned with truth? If s/he is, s/he cannot think that they are actually thinking in a true way. They also have nothing to say after that. But if they do - you can refer to CS Lewis he uses this argument in one of his books (Mere Christianity I think). Even Darwin notes this possible error in his theory (in a letter - I think the letter is to Wallace, but I'm not sure).
Anyway, in my opinion the main thing is to save our strength for fighting with the devil - not with non-believers. We must put forth the above points, then leave them and pray for them diligently. Maybe they will be saved one day. I know I was a fervent atheist and evolutionist once upon a time...
The Lord be glorified.
This reminded me of the time I really enjoyed talking with Fritz when he visited the Australian National University during the 1990's. He even drove me to Sydney and introduced me to the audio version of Crime and Punishment. And a 4 hour run from the ANU around Scrivener Dam and back by the Commonwealth Bridge should not go unremarked. He helped me think more deeply about both Science (Quantum Chemistry) and Christianity!
As a scientist I am amazed that there are world quality scientists who are true believers! Thank you Jim and Fritz. What a powerful testimony! This video is outstanding!!
King James Bible
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Love your enthusiasm for God and Jesus. God bless you po. I do pray that one day, people will realize that believing in God is Scientific too!
This was a truly beautiful lecture. I absolutely loved it. Thank you. Thank you 🙂 ❤️
What an amazing programme. I’ve just discovered you. Many thanks from the U.K.
Very interesting and well educated
How i love u dr tour ur knowledge is awsome u are prophet of GOD i think❤
Dr. Tour is always so PASSIONATE about Jesus! I live that about him!
this web is interesting so many wonderful and fascinating people thankyou james
Brilliant 👏
Absolutely magnificent!
Great presentation. In my prayers, God bless you and yours
جزاكم الله خيرا
Thank You for posting this.
Wow thank you!!
Excelent, Dr. Tuor. If this is mainly a site for non beleivers, beleive me that it makes beleivers regoice about their faith, when it is exposed so well related to scientific matters. Thank you for your podcasts, Dr. James. May the Lord let you reach milions of non beleivers. And I also recomend to others your personal testimony of you spectacular escounter with Christ. I find it one of the best testimonies ever given. I am a catholic mexican priest, and I was crying of joy when I heard your testimony in ONE FOR ISRAEL. I feel so happy you love our Lord Jesus so dearly. That is what I personally intend to do with every thing I do and every person I meet. I dont have any doubt that any non beleiver that looks to the video of the testimony of you conversion to Christ, with an open mind and a noble heart, will end beleiving and loving Jesus. Bless you Dr. Tour. Fr. Jorge Fuentes.
I like how Dr. Tour has these excellent and accomplished scientists on this show.
Yes, they're quite informative!
THAT was AWESOME,
This was wonderful. Thank you!
Loved it, thank you!
This was amazing!
Thank you brother Jim and Fritz. Wonderful lecture by Fritz. Many great scientists today and the past know where ALL the evidence points to: the Creator of the universe.
Jesus died for our sins & rose from the dead to make us right with God & to help us know this Creator personally and for an eternity.
Fritz Schaefer
Love these talks - keep them coming!
Would like to praise the production team: Good work!
All the glory and honor be to God, our Father of glory, and His beloved Son Jesus Christ!!!
This “Science & Faith Podcast” it’s truly a great blessing to all humankind!!!
Thank You so much FATHER OF GLORY for these faithful and extraordinary scientists: Dr James Tour, Dr Stephen Meyer, Dr Henry Schaefer, Dr Joshua Swamidass, Dr John Lennox (next week), and many other dear brothers and dear sisters in Christ Jesus!!!
DR TOUR: we truly hope you can invite Dr. Michael Denton to your Podcast very soon. It will be marvelous!!!
Psalm 19:1:
“The heavens declare the glory of God, / And the expanse proclaims the work of His
hands.”
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ??? of course if we knew everyone would be a believer
That was a wonderful Testimony
Unfortunately the time this conversation it's starting, in Jersey will be 12.30 AM. I'll be sleeping. I hope I'll be able to watch tomorrow on RUclips. Many thanks and God bless you two.
God the infinite came as a baby. Beautiful, full of grace and truth.
thank you both for making science exciting ! the book of nature is the largest collections of psalms written with non-human languages
Thank you so much for these videos...So gracious, so gentle so useful
Thx you guys fun science
blessed was that day when I saw your testimony for the first time through "one for Israel" couple years ago in RUclips video; from then on I hardly miss any of your preaching, teaching, speech, testimony, or you name it. in fact im not from the academic world and might not understand quite well all science and technology in that level, however intuitively( not by my mind but by my spirit) comprehend the beauties of nature that is made by God through your academic excellency accompanied with your humble Lord Jesus discipleship. let me quote two verses one from the new and one from the old testament books that best figures when i think about you, ..... acts 14:17" nevertheless He left not Himself without witness,..." and 1 king 19:18 "yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto baal, and every mouth which has not kissed him." even one more Isa 8:18 "behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion." you are God's plumb bob in your age at this very corrupt time where mega church pastors and bishops are adulterating the word of God( Isa 28:17 righteousness to the plummet:). your flawless faith in Jesus, your longevity plus your academic excellence and many more strengthen, build up, promote and flourishing like me a petty Jesus hungry unprofitable person and I believe many more others. Dr. James, Yeshua HaMashiach bless your lengthen of days. you are the most beloved brother in His kingdom.
Thank you Professor tour Professor Schaefer. This series is so wonderful. I just discovered it on RUclips I'm speechless God bless you both
God loves you!
WOW!!!!
The very beginning of the universe for humanity was the very first spark of consciousness of Adam.
I love the irony of the quotation of Lederman claiming no one knows anything about the very beginning, "zero", but tells us what "the very beginning" was like. Oh boy! 20:01
21:56 Roger Penrose is lovely! He did a very interesting debate with William Lane Craig of Unbelievable with Justin Brierley . He is interesting and humble
This is my personal OLYMP, and the scientists, on the "god level"!
Love the talks and all the common sense of knowing God created everything and sent his only begotten son to die on the cross for our sins.
The more you draw near to God, the more that He will draw near to you.
ID/Creationism is pseudoscience bullshit and Tour is a documented liar.
@@garywalker447 Do you want to talk about it in a live stream? (If not, your claims are useless and worthless nonsense.)
@Ahmad Shamil A chemist who doesn't understand evolution - Sandwalk
Mar. 16, 2014 - So what does James Tour have to say about evolution that attracts so much attention? He begins by saying that he is not a supporter of ...
Thank you. Clear for me a non scientist, setting the 2 positions. God is amazing.
I was expecting a more evidence grounded briefing. What other scientist think about God is encouraging in the sense that there are folks out there way smarter than me have faith, but I was hoping to hear a bit more insight to God's signature in the details of these theories.
Eternity is the absolute lack of time.
Does anyone know which book of Hugh Ross was mentioned by Mr.James Tour. Thanks in advance.
The Creator and the Cosmos, 4th edition
I think the title is misleading - science IS a kind of faith.
@Jacob Howell ha ha - with immaturity comes idiocy...you, sir, are as immature as your average Dawkins...
@Jacob Howell sorry - i hope i didn't offend...I know your type are so easily offended...:)
@Jacob Howell he he- I know: 'wtf' stands for 'What the frankincense', yes? Yes - by your remark 'wtf' you have proven to me that indeed you are NOT a Christian! For, as Paul says in Ephesisns 4:29: 'Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.'
You certainly gave NO grace with your little 'wtf'. He - he. YOU SIR HAVE JUST BEEN PROVEN NOT TO BE A CHRISTIAN. YOU SIR, HAVE BEEN.......................................BUSTED..........................................................
wrong sir. Your lack of Scripture knowledge doth astound. Tell me, pray, wilt thou - what is the difference between judging and spiritually discerning?Why does Jesus both say 'judge not' and yet He also says 'judge righteously'? (google the verse - I think it's around Matthew 7 or so). Don't know?he-he
@Jacob Howell yes - I found it - it's Matthew 7:24. By the way, I never called you an idiot. One would hope that my post clarifying that I hoped you weren't offended might have edified you or someone...
But there may be some truth amongst the things you say. I'd be the first to say I need to improve my Christian walk. Hang on, what the frankincense am I saying? I'm speaking like you really are a Christian - rather than the evolutionist- non believer my spiritual discernment tells me you are (Matthew 7:24).
Does the constant expansion of the universe effect the expression of time as measured in our physical calculations? Such as the age of the universe or the half lives of atoms?
No. The way to think of it is each galaxy is approximately at rest so the laws of physics remain unchanged within each galaxy. Its just the space between galaxies is expanding.
Good to hear some proper science being discussed for a change and none of this religious evolutionary nonsense!
So you need to meet up with Dr Bob Price and Dr Richard Carrier Athiestest that would show another dimension on this
How do you know what the writers wrote down at the time is true and not just mythology ??? That is the big question ???
@white christian yer The Greeks certainly did ~~~have you read Shakespear >>>??? or charles Dickens ?? and the Book of Mormon made up a whole bunch of names he he
@white christian create the interpretation only in the writing ~~~~ not in observable fact
@Jacob Howell How do you know Jesus changed water into wine ? or walked on water
Whoa - Dr. Tour - RE - video time around around 54:40 with your conversation on the plane - I AM a reformed Baptist and my maternal grandma was 8% Abrahamic (clueless of the tribe) and my mom thus 4% Abrahamic, which makes ME 2% in descendance from Abraham. But per Scripture I am 100% a child of Promise, no less than Abraham, Moses, or David. I AM a staunch Reformed Baptist (which really means, put simply - predestined salvation + credo-baptism which means full immersion, not water sprinkled on an unaware baby's head, so per Christ's education of Nicodemus that evening on the roof, upon one who has ALREADY been touched by the Paraclete are those to be Baptized. The Spirit moves like the wind, and cannot be sought. One is either quickened, or he is not. There IS NO seeker). Please recall your experience in your dorm room - you REALLY think you chose that? Or that you invoked that? Are you arrogant enough to boast YOU chose Christ? I think not sir.
I would have had that SAME witness on the plane - so as much as I love your teachings, I have NO IDEA here you get your hyper-Calvinist claims there. We in fact DO know that Yahweh not only determines the ends (predestination, a la Romans 8:28-30, Romans 9, or Ephesians 2, to name a modicum) but also the means "Faith comes by hearing" - so as much as I really LOVE you, you can take that hyper-Calvinist myth and revise that, good brother. You've got us (meaning, actual exegesis) pegged wrong, sir.
And please note Jesus was baptized at 30 years old, did so as a believer, and subjected himself to deep-water (immersion) baptism - or should I just say "baptism"? - NOT the sprinkling of water on an infant's head whose only interest and awareness is filling his diaper and the next chance at his mommy's teet. Biblical exegesis commands me to follow Christ's example: credo-baptism, full-immersion, "for righteousness' sake". No clue where your false accusations against real Christians, the Reformed Baptists, comes from.
All that said, I adore your teachings. I only ask you to explore what a real reformed baptist (meaning: original baptist, or simply - 1st century, post-ascension Christian) accepts via Berean exegesis from the Father's Holy Word. So-called "free will baptists" ignore exegeting Romans 8:28-30, Romans 9, or Ephesians 2 and arrogantly think THEY chose Christ - upon which they can boast in Heaven. Scripture precludes this.
Science and faith. I was just thinking at the close of this: science is faith.
For we believe that what we see in the material world is intelligible, and actually able to be investigated.
You have to write the IQ of these two scientists in scientific notation.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Dr. Tour, do you consider yourself a Christian or a Messianic Jew? If the latter, how does the doctrine of Messianic Judaism differ from ordinary protestant Christianity? I was surprised to see you described in various places online as a Messianic Jew, but I don't think I've ever seen you use that label for yourself. Thank you in advance for your response, and thanks for a thought provoking show.
He's not worrying about religion, its all about Jesus and what he's done for us on that cross in Calvary, not religion but relationship
Who is anyone to define God down?
sir can u plz give the answer of my question in one word .if u give answer it will be honour for me. And the question is...
Is life come from nothing? and is abiogenesis true or not ?
When someone says to me "I know some parts of the bible are not meant to be taken literally" I become very very concerned. Can God lie or can He not? He can not. The bible is not hard to understand if you are really trying.
We should take the Bible literally where it is meant to be taken literally but some parts are not meant to be taken literally. Language uses metaphor to communicate ideas. Jesus used a literary device known as a parable. Made up stories to teach spiritual Truth. The Psalms are in the genre of poetry, written to convey emotion in sometimes quite exaggerated ways. The Gospels are mostly history but aren't always told chronologically the way most of our current history books would likely be written. We must recognize the kind of literature we are reading and strive to understand the original intent of the author. Taking into account the culture and original audience is also important. Paul's letters were written to address specific problems in the early church and to explain the gospel of Christ to both Jewish and non-jewish audiences. We are to study to show ourselves approved. If it wasn't a little bit of a challenge that command would have simply been read to show yourself approved. The Bible can be inherent in its original form without necessarily being literal at all times.
@@coachmarc2002 that's all correct. My point is the Bible is written to be understood easily and clearly by in large. Genesis is in the that 95%
"Eternity is a long time,
Especially the ending"
.....?
Dr tour, I really appreciate the videos you are putting out. Please continue to do so.
On this topic of the Big Bang and the origin of the universe, I would like to invite you to ponder this verse from the Quran:
“ARE, THEN, they who are bent on denying the truth not aware that the heavens and the earth were [once] one single entity, which We then parted asunder? - and [that] We made out of water every living thing? Will they not, then, [begin to] believe?”
In another translation (since Quran was revealed in Arabic):
“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?”
And on the expansion of the universe:
“AND IT IS We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power; and, verily, it is We who are expanding it.”
This unmistakable reference to the state of the universe before the Big Bang as well as the expansion of the universe after that, was revealed to prophet Muhammad more than a thousand and four hundred years ago. To put things into perspective, Edwin Hubble made the observation that the universe is expanding less than a 100 years ago.
Knowing your love for Jesus Christ, I’d also like to tell you that Jesus Christ is one of the most highly regarded prophets in Islam, we believe in his miracles of bringing back the dead, as well as healing the blind and the leper with ALLAH’S permission.
He dwells in in us.
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
I suppose when this was originally aired, it was live streamed; I am getting here late. All the same I do have a question; Perhaps it will be answered even though it’s tardy?
I note that you on several occasions in this video state the universe is 13.5 billion years old? I am curious as to the why of this statement? I have heard others make it. I am quite convinced that we live in a young universe as is stated in scripture. I don’t want to make this a divisive topic, but it seems to me that if we claim scripture to be the word of God, Yashua is God, He said I am the truth, then ultimately, we should come at the question, this question of the age of creation, with one overarching conclusion its young, and then understand why everything else.
I have heard this a few times……we are able to recognize great distances within the universe over which light has obviously traveled and we know the speed of light so can calculate the time it would take to cross them.
But I have not heard anyone explain how fast God stretched it out. After all, let’s say it was six thousand light years across at creation and God stretched it to its current size. The light would have stretched along with the space it was in and would not have actually been moving any faster, the space it was in moved, changed. How can anyone say we know how far light most have travelled so dogmatically that they would disagree with scripture?
@@derhafi Rob, you make two claims neither of which address the question I posed. One that the scribe who wrote the scriptures knew nothing of the universe and so could not be trusted in anything asserted, and two that scientists do know which is actually the question I am asking and that makes your response a circular argument or logical fallacy by circular reasoning.
To address the first claim that the scribes know nothing of the universe; I would point out that they don’t profess to. The information they relate is reportedly given at the direction of God, who quite obviously has an extensive, indeed one might argue complete knowledge of the universe.
So, to dismiss the scribes and their writings is an over step on your part as you have no way of determining the quality of their claims.
As to the second claim that scientists do know and remaining consistent with my specific line of query, I point out the Oort cloud.
This is an asserted imaginary as in unobservable, untestable, proposed rescue mechanism for an old universe. So, when you say science knows, I am not sure at all how you concluded that reliably?
Your comment did nothing to address my question and has instead offered two unproven unprovable erroneous statements. Was it intended to be useful/helpful?
@@derhafi You literally added nothing to the conversation or his question. An atheist, trying to sound smart, who makes claims about the universe being eternally old, or coming from absolutely nothing, is also very funny.
The Bible is not "superstition" and you have no way to support your statement, and do not remotely understand a word you're saying, on either side of the issue.
As Dr Tour, and many since St Augustine, when reading Gods Word, as recorded by ancient Hebrews, it's is necessary to understand the context of the "Book" being read. With the New Test for instance, we are very certain of the intended context and intent of the books, by the authors. For the Old Testament, we are in many cases left guessing, and in some cases by individuals who seem to think they know everything, asserting the context and intent.
For example, you would not posit that when a person who reads the Book of Revelation, that when it describes a 7 headed beast who will come out of the sea, that it is literally asserting that an actual monster, with 7 heads will come out of the sea, right? Or in the Psalms, when it describes us as sheep, you probably don't think we actually, in reality, have wool, bleat and that sort of thing.
Pertaining to the first half of Genesis, it comes from ancient Hebrews. We do not have early church historians and theologians to give us any clue.
Pertaining to the speed of light, this falls under the argument that "God created the universe with the appearance of age", sort of like when He created Adam, He didn't create Adam as a fetus lying in the dirt, He created Adam as an adult.
Could be... but why resort to such unscientific arguments when we aren't 100% certain what Genesis means?
After reading Genesis, I think it is safe to say, with 100% certainty, that God created the universe, life, human-life in His image, with the ability to do good and evil, that there is a personal force for evil (Satan), that God and angels exist, and that God would send a savior to defeat Satan.
I think it's a huge mistake to try to read Genesis, and go around telling people how old the universe is, or rather the speed of light is constant or not. I simply do not believe that is what God intended with the Book of Genesis, and it seems to have almost become heretical in my view, because people preach this like it were the Gospel of Jesus or something. Like The Great Commission was "Go and preach to the world that the universe is 6,000 years old, and the earth is not very old, convincing them that dinosaur fossils are fake, and lo I am with you always to the end of the age".
That's my opinion...
I wish people would not try and use science as a "prove" for God. At least, and I am grateful to the two gentleman for that, they are not Young Earth creationists.
A chemist who doesn't understand evolution - Sandwalk
Mar. 16, 2014 - So what does James Tour have to say about evolution that attracts so much attention? He begins by saying that he is not a supporter of ...
The problem is that spacetime is emergent, not fundamental. Consciousness is fundamental. What we "see" is an interface. See Dr Donald Hoffman's theory and book. "The Case Against Reality"
The picture starting to emerge from the last 40 years research in quantum gravity (which I expect this speaker knows very little about) is of spacetime as an emergent structure of an underlying deeper theory. There are some fairly simple thought experiments involving trying to make quantum measurements at the Planck scale to show this must be the case. This invalidates most of these old philosophical arguments.
Footnote: Chris Isham (44 mins) will though understand what I am talking about.
[49 mins] What have simplicity, balance, order got to do with love. On the other hand what have pain, famine and disease which are key drivers of the evolutionary process got to do with love.
Read the whole chapter of Job
Dear Professor Tour, I watch your videos about the evolution with great interest. I would be very happy if you would consider being my guest at my small channel? There is a constant debate about this topic in Turkey as well. I think it would be very helpful to introduce your thoughts in evolution to Muslim people too. I imagine a simple interview that is for anyone who does not know much about the topic and thus cannot say anything against the dominant argument.
The only honest thing James did here, was the question at 3:00. And the answer for an educated man was very underwhelming. I mean the historic evidence from 2000 years ago, written in books which are copied over and over again is not very strong after all, now is it Fritz? And a good habit when you want too learn about say the "big bang" it's better that you first watch a video from Stephen Hawkings instead of these guys explaining that for you. isn't that right dear people?
Sir, are you questioning their evidence or the conclusion they have come to based on the evidence?
We have more historical manuscripts for the new testimate than anything else that old. So if you want to say such things are unreliable, and faulty then you have to say that about pretty much all of history past 600 AD. So sure you could throw out the historicity of christianity, but you have to throw out everything else that old as well if you want to remain historically consistent.
Physical distanced NOT socially distanced.
God doesn't leave us in the dark that's why we have the written word.
(It is written)
Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
(ERV) In the same way, my words leave my mouth, and they don't come back without results. My words make the things happen that I want to happen. They succeed in doing what I send them to do.
My only challenge with the big bang is the age being proposed at ±13.7 which I believe is too young. There are 2 known stars pegged at 14.5±, so something is amiss. Also, the Milky Way is ±13.4 and is towards the universe's perimeter within what is called "Laniakea", and we have ±200 BILLION galaxies. Considering how long it takes a galaxy and suns to form there's no way 13.7 is even possible.
The Big Bang theory and Einstein's theories, to this layman, face a serious challenge by Pierre-Marie Robitaille, and Stephen Crothers, but their critiques do not in any way contradict the Bible in my mind. For the simple logical conclusion that existence without a cause just does not make any sense.
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.what banged from where? who banged it and why?