Red Dead Redemption 2 vs Red Dead Redemption | Direct Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- A direct graphical comparison between Red Dead Redemption 2 (2018) and its predecessor, Red Dead Redemption (2010)
Both titles are being played on the XboxOne X platform.
#RedDeadRedemption #RDR2 #Comparison
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Arthur often teases John about his inability to swim.
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*[John will remember that]* sorry that's from a dead game company. I'm mixing up my memes
@@thehonestorange713 shouldve never made another walking dead game
@@biga1848 I think they could've put more effort into the game before release and if they had it might've saved their company.
It makes no sense because when you play as John at the end of the game he can swim
The first Red Dead was honestly ahead of it’s time
So is the secound one
The first red dead was revolver. You mean the first red dead redemption (second red dead).
vectress
Yes
Shame the setting meant everything had to be so colorless. It could have been a beautiful game
Dude it came out in 2010. It wasn't that long ago and games were pretty good looking back then.
For an 8 year old game it can still hold its own. It may be old and rusty and not as detailed, but it's a damn good game
I love the hat mechanic, it makes me feel like Indiana Jones every time I pick it back up after an intense fight.
TheVenator I always forget my hat
Kermit the Frog at 3:41
Logan D lmaooooo
how do people miss that shit haha.
Red Dead Redemption 1 still has better graphics than pubg
Bruhama lol true
yeah, no....
Right? I guess Unreal Engine 4 was released in 2004. /s
Hate it all you want, PUBG is simply just using default lightings and shit from UE4. If you wanna hate it for graphics, hate UE4. Blueasshole literally did nothing to change the graphics settings in UE4.
but fortnite for example uses the same graphic source and it doesn't make it look like trash tho.
pubg just looks insipid and lack of color
Luis Revilla
It's a game made by the creator themselves. Lack of color is basically every UE4 game with default lightings ever. Upcoming Shonen Jump game, every UE4 demo ever, and all those UE4 games on Steam. The default lighting in UE4 is the problem. Unless the devs decided they want to write their own lighting codes, UE4 games will look dull and shitty. Fortnite was initially made with UE3 I believe. And it's a game made by Epic Games... if it looks like shit, Epic might as well kill themselves. Why bother releasing an Engine that they had no idea about then?
The horses have balls 10/10
They alsochange with temperature. Just like how my balls go inside of me when I jump into cold ass water lol. They spared no expense in detail in this game.
You must be gay
*notices high detail to horse balls*
And they fart when they shit
@@hokage1997 lol
For a game released 8 years ago, Red dead still looks better than some 2018 triple AA titles *cough cough fallout 76 cough cough*
Shitout 76*
They really should upgrade their game engine and let Obsidian do a new game
Pubg"cough cough
Obsidian really should take over the fallout franchise.. god fallout new Vegas had it's problems but damn I loved roaming around with Rex . It's a shame Bethesda will never let that happen
I can’t tell you how many times I have lost my hat in RDR2 already 😂😂
IKR loll
Ive ran out in the open during a firefight twice to grab my hat 😂
Someone please help me, how do I put a coat in my saddlebag?
Mid gun fights I love charging AI’s and tackling them both of our hats fly off and we start fist fighting 😂😂
@@clouve3337 sorry man..not sure yet..
Funny to think in 2010 we were gushing over red dead redemption graphics and here we are doing it again 8 years later. Makes me wonder what games will look like in 8 more years. Can games actually get any more realistic looking????
now just imagine what GTA 6 will look like
Reality
:))
I was ironic...
Rockstar needs to do multiple cities or multiple states for GTA 6
@@thedon0516 If I can't land on the moon in GTA6 then I'm returning it
To be honest, the takeaway of this video is how epic the RDR 1 was.
For an 8 year old game RDR1 is still a hard game to follow
@Joshua Shank exactly they never get bad. That's the only studio that can accomplish that yet. Rockstar games are always legends in open world no matter what. They always gave a variety of things to do in every single game. Not just pasting boring collectibles and that's it, no they add a layer on top of that with different side missions like all GTA games and that's lacking in other open world games that are not made by rockstargames. At the end of the day rockstar will always win no matter what. They know how to create an open world game and they even accomplished in these hard days for the gaming industry to get a masterpiece right here. Ubisoft, all other developers never managed to get that level.
Its 10 years old not 8
@@SuperZombiepimp Actually it's 8
@@SuperZombiepimp red dead redemption was released in 2011, how is that 10 years ?
.sCHROD1NGER 2010*
RDR1 aged really well and have a great graphic consider its age
Me Stesso in a few aspects yes but generally it’s not aged that well
@@Sam-hu3nm it has aged finely, nothing great but nothing bad either.
@John Smith my bad, I didn't notice it.
@John Smith ohh but I'd just like to say that not everyone is a native speaker. Some adapt to different languages quickly while others don't.
too be fair the xbox one x is running this game at 4x the original resolution, so its being enhanced
Games from 10 years ago still look really good....I think we are hitting a wall with graphics and now developers are focusing on little things to help make the game feel more realistic...if you looked at a game from 2010 and a game from 2002 you would see a huge difference but a game from 2018 and 2010 the difference is much smaller.
That's the lowest common denominator holding games back (consoles). The latest PCs have far superior tech but no company will invest in them.
There is still A huge difference between red dead 1 and red dead 2 it’s like night and day almost everything is more detailed and more variety in the 2nd one.
I believe videogame industry is reaching a top when it comes to visuals, graphically speaking. However, that doesnt mean they cant keep getting better. I think the idea from now on is to stop trying to just "pretend to look real" and start trying to actually "feel real". For example: Making every building in a city enterable, every cloud in the sky not a texture, every single spectator on a sports game highly detailed, every single leaf, every stone and every grain of sand on the ground an individual object and not a texture on a huge polygon, etc. Games will now start to get better not visually, but phisically, slowly decreasing the use of textures to fool the eye and increasing the information that it can be procesed so those objects actually become part of the game's world.
Don't forget Red dead 2 is designed for the base PS4 and Xbox one, which are about 1.5-2 terraflops. My gtx 1080 I s 9 terraflops, imagine what they could look like with that power. Roll on PS5.
The point is, are graphics hitting a wall? Even top tear developers have already said next gen will not have the that big a graphic leap over this generation...
He should've included a comparison with Red Dead Revolver. LOL.
I got that game for the PS2!
Qqa
such a good game
Maybe it’s because in the time period of red dead redemption 1 (which was further in the future) , explosives were more powerful than in rdr 2 ( which is why the explosion is “worse)
I really want Rockstar to have John Marston say “no, I can’t swim” to the rest of the gang in RDR2. All who played the first game would grin.
LALFAST you don’t play John in rdr2
Havoc - Team Eternal but u can still interact with john. there's missions u go on him with and u can talk to him at camp
@@kaizouttv Did I imply that in my comment? As @OrientWinter said, there are lots and lots of dialogue with the members of the camp, including John. There might be a mission or two taking place on water, in which case John might cede.
Havoc - Team Eternal guess again kido. Beat the game you’ll find out
There is a bit of dialogue in the game where Aurther says to John that water is his biggest enemy, or something along those lines
Rockstar made a nod towards that swimming flaw in rdr1 haha
I was up in the Grizzlies for a stranger's mission and, out of curiosity, had Arthur walk on one of the frozen lakes. What surprised me was whenever Arthur slipped, the lake made that cool booming sound frozen lakes make in real life. It was that attention to detail that blew my mind. Also, I love how the snow tracks look different depending on the kind of snow you're walking on; the fresh snow looked fluffier and the older snow looked dirtier and slushier. Unlike the first RDR, I didn't feel the need to get to where I wanted to go as fast as possible because traveling doesn't feel tedious in this game. I spent several real-world hours slowly trekking to Amberino and back and enjoyed every minute of it. At one point, I stopped near the border of Amberino and New Hanover and could actually see one biome merge into the other. I wanted to take a picture of it, but by the time I got the camera out, the view of New Hanover completely misted over as it started to snow. It was fucking awesome.
Please be considerate in the comments and do not post spoilers. Many people have yet to play the game.
Horses feel faster in RDR and slower in RDR2
True
It depends what type of horse u have
Nyquil the game
I've already played rdr1 so much I'm never touching that game again rdr2 is where I belong
Your horse was unrealistically fast all of the time in RDR. It makes sense that they slowed it down a little in the sequel.
You can upgrade dynamite in rdr 2 that's probably how you can get a bigger boom
Volatile dynamite
Volatile dynamite makes me moist
Yeah, I assumed it was down to some game mechanic.
Dynamite tech 1899 vs 1911?
Train go boom
We need a RDR 1 remaster after 3 months
The heat wave effect is definitely in rdr 2. I've seen it many times now.
7:27 dat reload animation :OO
Nonetheless, RDR1 was so ahead of it's time. This is a such a quality game series by Rockstar.
Is Kermit narrating this ? Oh my god
A great comparison. The sound comparison for the revolver also showed how far Rock Star has come with the animation. In the original RDR, John looked like he was shooting a double-action revolver, just pulling the trigger. In RDR 2, Arthur looks like he is firing an authentic single-action revolver, having to actuate the hammer with his thumb first before pulling the trigger for each round. Reloads look more authentic too.
Damn, Red Dead Redemption 1 still kicks ass even 8 years later
Felipe M. I said first Red Dead Redemption, not first Red Dead
Felipe M. Are you stupid
He’s also using the Xbox one X version of the game which runs in 4K and improves textures. Compare this to the actual original and the old game looks like shit.
Felipe M. Yeah you’re an idiot
@Felipe M. Dumb people these days
In 2010 rdr1 looked STUNNING, I remember being blown away by it. Now in 2018 rdr2 continues the legacy with its stunning graphics.
Can we appreciate for a second how this game is from 2010 and yet it looks better than a shit ton of 2018 games.
With 8 years difference, RDR1 did a very great job!!!!
THIS is next gen. Video game industry sold us that idea way too soon.
Yes! 👏🏻
I agree. For the most part we've been getting last gen games with next gen graphics... barely.
It doesn't even have to be THIS good. The game OR the graphics. All we really want is an end to the endless stream of yearly sequels that hardly bring anything new to the table. Put some heart in your games!
Absolutely correct!
Anthony no this is rockstar rdr1 looked equally as amazing on Xbox 360 at the time
No my friend.. THIS is the beginning of the next-next-gen graphics. Graphics did greatly improve after the One/Ps4 released. But we're seeing some PS5 graphics or at least a something like it.
Always making the best comparison videos my dude.
I know right, My dude!
i love how cinematic red dead 2 is
horse walking in red dead 1 sounds like someone munching on cereal
"let's see how it compares to it's 2010 predecessor"
Uses enhanced version
Ubisoft please learn something how to upgrade
Well, if you want to be fair, you should compare ac: brotherhood to ac: odyssey since brotherhood is from 2010. And if you do that you would actually see that the difference is insane.
@@owshy even origins
The Gamer
Ubisoft = every years, we get new skin
Rockstar = over 5 years, we get all new
@@owshy they've only made big changes in the game twice, assassins creed 3 and assassins creed unity. Other than that its just a call of duty style money grab
But not campares to GTA and red dead
I got mauled by a bear and even THAT was super realistic 😂
RDR2 is definitely amazingly better than RDR1, but RDR1 still looks pretty goddamn good
The Rockstar Gamer? nice name xd
Suuure....
@Ha A ?? Tf you talking about?
k graphical ? No lmao
k it isn't
The graphics look the same in the thumbnail.
I really hope they keep the “Growing Hair” mechanic for GTA 6!
FBI OPEN UP! And the beard
FBI OPEN UP! The things that work in rdr may not work in gta 6.
They did
@@IskenderCaglarM41B441 Most ignorant comment award goes to you for: "The things that work in rdr may not work in gta 6."
Doubt it. The first Rdr is more realistic than gta V. red dead is more about realism. Gta is not about realism
Conclusion: RDR1 still looks amazing.
RDR2 does have haze from heat when you look up to the mountains from Valentine at the start of the game.
0:40 Marston gun giggle physics.
Maybe the dynamite explosions weren't as powerful in 1899? Remember RDR2 is a prequel.
Dynamite is dynamite. Not much has changed about it with time.
@mabbohabb Depends on a chamber size, the length of a barrel, the amount of charge etc. The sound of a weapon being shot is much more dependant on different factors than the sound of an explosive device. That being said, the subject matter is not the sound, it's the visual side of the explosion. Dynamite is a nitroglycerine based explosive, its components were not massively altered since its inception so the effect of the explosion should look the same, especially given the fact that the amount of time passed from the second game to first is not that great.
@@SkinnyBlackout was just about to reply to the OP with the exact same wording lol
Yeah this could be makes sense but I don't think this have much difference
They were.
*Testicles*
mad boi that is all
Yea
We were following foot steps in snow since Metal Gear Solid on PS1
some old commador game back in the early 90's had that.
Not the same as tesselation.
My gf was playing red dead 2 last night on my 4K tv and I woke up and asked her what she was watching because that shit looked so real
Sound like Kermit the frog lol great vid btw
Why are explosions always worse on the sequels? xD
Salvador Valladolid it’s a prequel
@@cavnsoulrotmg3413 Yeah but you know that i mean
CavNSoul Rotmg look guys, we have another “it’s a prequel” guy that defuses all negative feedback with this line. So sick of people like you...
InsectBrad I don't think that was what he meant.
InsectBrad Also that statement should be relative for example in AC Origins you could say that since it is a prequel to the series it would make sense to say that way the hidden blade works would be different to the other games, that makes sense. However you couldn't use that line of logic to explain certain lore changes.
I have already played 30 hours since Friday. Now I am at work watching RDR2 videos. I can't stop!
I love when Arthur trolls John that he can’t swim 😂
It's amazing how well the original holds up visually.
Now.. they need to release both games on PC to milk more money..
Souru Hantā i think releasing games on PC is useless now a days cuz these games are cracked and can be found on torrent and other websites week after games are released.....so less money comes from PC ... Its an estimate that most gamers nowadays are coming for other consoles and less go for PC
@@rafayhanan no my friend..trust me,a real pc gamer buys the game and has it in his collection for ever...and we are a lot ;)
@@rafayhanan As the guy said, real pc gamer buys the game ;) anyway Denuvo exists. If you don`t know what this is, its a anti piracy protection that`s really hard to crack and sometimes it takes months for the game to be cracked. Gta 5 for example still sold 10+ million copies on PC just on Steam.
Once an idiot told me "Do you really think I'm going to pay for games? Im not stupid" (ofc a pc user)
Oh well...
RDR2 will have a PC release, RDR however, still have the coding problem that rendered the whole team cancelling the PC release in the first place
RDR2 is a masterpiece the only flaw I saw was the dynamite which should be more powerful but that’s so subtle compared to everything else
No one can beat Rockstar Studio in Open World Games
Great review! The first game still looks better than most other games out there but II is out of this world.
jdh22 You should really get a better grasp of the english language. Because if you carefully read what Danielle wrote, you would realise that she actually gave high praise to RDR II. “..but II is out of this world.”
@@XxHessxX7 Did you even read the comment? She clearly said 1 looks good, but 2 looks out of this world.
jdh22 were you dropped when u were a fetus? You ignorant peice of shit, shut the fuck up!
jdh22 Ding dong your wrong read it again slowly please.
jdh22 *INCEL ALERT*
I love how good this game looks no matter the console. My friend has it on an original Xbox One and I was amazed by what Rock Star achieved. I have it on the X, and I can't stop drooling. I may see the doctor about my drooling problem when I beat the game.
You sir are a delusional fanboiii the original xb1 and XB1S don't even render rdr2 above 720p and the open landscape looks like playdough. Fucking PUBG looks better
@@simix666 Jesus you idiot. Rdr2 on xb1 and ps4 are 1080p, on ps4 pro it's 1440/2160p and Xbox X is 2160p. You absolute idiot.
Alec Ingram Sorry, your numbers are wrong. OG XBO and XBO S : 860p (which is still above 720p), PS4: 1080p PS4pro 1920 x 2160, Xbox One X: 3840 x 2160
Not to mention it runs smooth as fuck!
@@retropolis1 were both still kinda wrong. The actual OG XB1 is only 720p while the Xb1S is 860p. Most ppl disregard the launch XB1 and refer to the 1S as the base model making it hard to find spec reviews for the launch xb1
by the way, the heat effects ARE still in RDR2. i saw it yesterday when i played. i was in a hot area and you could see distortion from the heat.
For how amazing rdr1 was this is one of the best follow ups of a game I have ever seen.
So many graphical improvement, very nice
duh braindead cancer. its a fucking 8 year old game. what did u expect? how are you all this braindead?
@@deathrager2404 what
@@cwpss you re braindead too? my point being is if u compare any 8 year old game with a newer game, of course there will be graphical improvements. thats not worthy of mentioning.
@@deathrager2404 why be such a bitch about it tho? After all this is a sequel of that 8 year old game, so its completely normal to compare them. And tbh not all current games have this many graphical improvements when compared to the first RDR. So I think youre the braindead one here.
@@cwpss because more and more kids do these comparisons, and it ends up in rockstar only caring about graphics and the size of the map, which is so empty there barely is anything to do. look at gta 5. great graphics, big map with nothing to do on it. thats pretty much where gaming is going. and its not gonna get better in the future. rdr2 confirms what i say. its a game with great graphics and a big ass map, but the game itself is pretty boring.
the emphasis is on the graphics and size of the map. because of comments like the one of ghosttea. im not disagreeing that it looks good because obviously it does, but to keep praising that nonstop back to back? if i made a game and i read comments like this, i would litterally stop caring about content and make nice looking games with big maps. because it will be praised for that anyway.
thats exactly what rockstar is doing. and again its not gonna get better. sorry for being bitter, but i hate to see my beloved hobby going down the drain because of stupid casual gamers who care about graphics.
have fun with the game though.
2 Masterpieces
No way a game made 7 years ahead of another has better graphics?? You’re kidding
You never know man, just look at Black ops 4
@@talhahqureshi1222 You think Modern Warfare 3 looks better than Blops 4?
@@alfie5168 No, but Black ops 2 certainly does
@@talhahqureshi1222 Well, thats 6 years apart, and you're totally wrong lol
@@alfie5168 ahan
well i know for a fact that the gun sounds in red dead 2 sound a lot more "real" the reverb you get after the gunshot has been heard is audible in red dead 2 as opposed to red dead 1 where its just the gun shot and no ambient changes in the air/world afterwards.
Wow its incredible what the new gen can do, the RDR is incredible but the RDR2 is so much better, the dynamite explosions is worst but is just that so yeah.
@Wolffe yeah but its incredible cause ik graphics likr gow and uncharted 4 was possible but graphics like this in a massive open world game full of life, i cant imagine how is going to be the next rockstar gamr
I think the Gun Play sounds and dynamite explosions sound better in RDR1
Current gen
@@fornas2 *Current Gen*
@@streetkombat6088 i agree the explosions are better in the first game but the sounds are opinion based.
Could you compare red dead redemption 2 to assassins creed Odyssey as they are both good looking games and both heavily feature horses, wildlife, plants, etc
AC Odyssey is not really that good looking. In fact, I'd argue that the best looking AC game is AC Unity to this day.
ガトーアナベル you’re right, unity looked too good tbh, that’s why there was so many problems at launch.
@@yuhboi3467 Unity wasn't optimised at all
@@SkinnyBlackout I think black flag is better than unity and origins/Odyssey are by far the best so far.
@@dc6191 What you think does not matter. Unity is technically much more advanced than Black Flag and even Odyssey lacks some of the features that Unity had. It's not a matter of subjectivity.
0:47 old rdr looks like he smelled a fart
7:39 that was the most dissapointing detonation of dynamite i've ever seen lol.
The stars in rdr2 have actual constellations its an insane attention to detail
Damn. That's awesome. I'm the type to just look around a game to take in the setting and that detail makes me want to buy the game even more. I feel like I'll get lost in this game.
Can’t wait to see what the original map looks like THENNN we can see a direct comparison CANT WAIT
I swear to God you sound like Kermit the frog. You really should do voice acting for him! Good video!
If anything I’m even more impressed with the first Red Dead Redemption. These games are ahead of their time, respectively.
RDR2 Seems to boring to me 😑
It looks amazing graphically, but it looks boring as hell gameplay wise.
Good job with the direct comparison I'm a big fan of your work keep it up.
If you’re gonna do a direct comparison, you might as well have gone to new Austin in rdr2. You have to get to the epilogue to do so though
I whistled for my horse and kept running, thinking she would come up alongside and let me just jump on in a continued stride like in the first one. Instead she stops about 8 feet away and I have to run to her and hop on. I have the white arabian with the current best stirrups and bonded level 4. It doesn't feel like she goes any faster than my war horse. Handling is a little off during ambushes, she's ran into a tree twice already when i was aiming... I still don't get this all seeing, all knowing wanted system. I keep getting pinched for crimes no one saw me commit.
Seeing arthur hurts ma soul 💔💔😭😭
Lol you didn't mention that Arthur always teases John about his water problem, it's hilarious 😂
Red dead 1's ending was way more tragic knowing that Jack was all alone now
Spectacular comparison man, great job
This game is also ahead of his time. For me this is next gen. Such a masterpiece. Thank you Rockstar.
The water in RDR2 looks weird when hes swimming...the water looks like jelly following the movement of his arms...
They had to cut corners, hopefully PC release will have these graphic issues fixed
I don't remember RDR looking that good... maybe because it was on the 360?
Red dead 2 is too detailed, why do I have watch a mini cutscene for EVERY single action?
Every time you say Red dead redemption it sounds like "Red dem dedem dedendon"
7:20 i found my new kick samples for my music👀
how tf would u sample that as a kick
@@fucc773 trust, it's possible
@@fucc773 Just low pass the shit out of the sound.
ガトーアナベル more like some eq and maybe some parallel notches, a low pass is too steep
Eq the fuck outta that
That just shows how ahead of it's time RDR1 was, (and still is haha)
RDR1 is good for a game 2010
the heat effects should be in the game. New Austin shows up on the map I got with the physical edition
Looking at Red Dead 2 I don't see how anyone can go back to the first. Part 2 just improved on everything and the graphics look amazing. It was kind of like WTH I used to think this looked so good.
Yes, that'll happen when game developers actually have a passion for what they do and the desire to outdo themselves with every release. Sadly, us gamers have just been putting up with the same shit but a different title. Whether its Assassin's Creed, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Destiny, etc. I'm not saying some of their devs have no passion but these companies have definitely went more corporate and are mainly only looking to maximize profits. Rockstar probably is doing that, too. But thank God they still put the work in.
rdr 1 is still a better game than rdr 2
Dumbasses buy games for looks and graphics which don't mean Jack shit
@@ZSUPZ11 indefinitely and it's cheaper
Very useful video to show game devs, how much the audience pays attention to the subtle details. Great job :)
I like the dynamite sound explosion better on red dead redemption but the rest of the game is better on Red dead redemption 2
I like the video but sometimes I wonder why we compare two games that are 8 years apart 😂. They better have improved within that time hahah
RDR1 has better graphics than games in 2018
The classic graphics... Sigh
Yeah no shit, that's nothing new, Crysis 1 still has better graphics than games in 2018, Crysis 1 with graphic mods still looks better than most upcoming games.
I am embarrassed by how much money I would spend for a RDR 1 remaster
When i lose my hat in a fight i just pick up the hat of a guy i wasted and wear that one
I remember buying my PS3 just to play the original Red Dead Redemption. 😌
Maybe now is the time to get myself a new console! ♥️
i highly suggest xd
Erik Ahl It’s been what? 5 years since the PS4 and Xbox one came out. And 10 since the PS3 and Xbox 360.
How have you not upgraded yet.
Que To be honest? Because I’ve had and have more important things to do than playing video games. Unfortunately...
Also I’m pretty sure that if I spend all my money on a new PS4 or Xbox One a new console will launch the very same minute.
Erik Ahl They probably won’t come out with a new generation anytime soon, they PS4 pro and especially the Xbox one X are very recent.
Just get the original PS4 or the PS4 slim if you want a cheap next gen console.
Both are the same but the slim is smaller.
And both are much better than the Original Xbox and the Xbox one S.
The o my Xbox that is worth it right now is the X.
I have the base PS4 that I use to play exclusives and games that aren’t on PC.
@@Erik_Ahl don't buy red dead 2 it's a boring chore simulator you spend 80% of the game doing annoying boring tasks and riding your horse. Trust me everyone is dick riding rockstar this game is pure TRASH.
Gosh damn😂I forgot how fast you reloaded in the first RDR
For me, both games look amazing and now that i look at this comparasion, RDR 1 was ages ahead of it's time.
Why would you use the 1x version of RD if it's not a realistic depiction of the released version ?
I agree. Pretty much what I said.