Mhj also mocked njs in her messages, woman actively told people not to call njs artists, said they weren’t artists, called them fat. She’s using them, mhj said she specifically wanted a group that would just listen to her and not question her actions and she got what she wanted. Mhj only excuses for her words/actions is that she was upset with njs🥲 and she can’t remember the context, its bs, njs are just a means for mhj to get what she wanted and now that she’s failing she would rather njs crash and burn than to continue without her Njs concept is not unique, straight up, and it isn’t unique to mhj, there is a whole team behind njs making decisions not just mhj, that literally what she wants, to be seen as the only thing that make njs njs and thats exactly why they believe they can’t exist without her, they got groomed and manipulated horribly and their parents are mostly to blame
@@Brilenciaga You’re not close to the girls, so you don’t know there FULL situation and the dynamics of their relationship with MHJ, and you weren’t there to see what they have gone through since debut to reach this point. So where do you get the confidence to act like a know it all? Is it because there “Young Girls 👧 “ you think they don’t have the maturity to make their own choices or to know when something is wrong? Are they victims, naive, helpless little kids to you? if that’s how you see them I want to you to know that all the shit that they have gone through has gave them strength, courage, and maturity beyond there young age and have experienced a lot and understand when it’s necessary for trusted adults to step in So don’t underestimate them just because they’re young. It’s sad that you view every relationship between adults and minors as grooming or creepy not every adult has an ulterior motive or is trying to manipulate someone. I had a teacher who practically raised me and was more like a friend when I didn’t have any. my mom didn’t go like “What dose this woman have in common with my child to be talking to her” no she trusted her and was glad that she supported me in difficult transition in my life. There was no grooming involved, and I’m grateful for her to this day. Not every adult/minor relationship is creepy or inappropriate The girls themselves have repeatedly said that MHJ is a great CEO and treats them well, so why is that still a concern for you? Their parents are fully supportive and involved. Do you think all the adults around them are also being manipulated? Maybe you think there using there own children to make money? There well off to begin with and only want what’s best for there daughters since there involved and know MHJ they know she’s the best person to mentor them. MHJ never claimed to have created a unique concept, but you can’t deny her impact in changing kpop and whether you like it or not, NewJeans is a unique girl group. Their success speaks for itself no one else in the industry is like them. When you criticize them without providing clear evidence, it seems like you’re just looking for reasons to hate on MHJ The girls are safe, happy and thriving creatively with her why are you mad?
@@hadeeljabarti5047 OMG THANK YOU SO MUCHH. I've been trying to say what you just wrote to all the people that kept saying "Its obvious that mhj groomed the girls blah blah blah" but i just couldn't find the right words to say it. Now you've said it i just wanted to thank you.
Let me summarize this in a simpler way. Someone standby and fight for their boss who got fired by the bigger boss in a big corporation. This is a fight that wont be allowed to win at any cost because it may become a precedent in the future.
That could also be a big explanation! Seeing her as a motherly figure might really shape the way they feel and act toward her, especially since they’re away from their families.
One of the things that bothers me about njs supporting mhj is that mhj had committed some of the very actions that they are accusing hybe/ador of and they loudly support mhj but its suddenly a no no when the company allegedly does it? I can understand being groomed and manipulated but what njs is doing is purposely supporting a harmful individual just because they feel comfortable with her, newsflash, even kids who have been saed can and will sometimes defend their abusers, doesn’t mean they are a good person. Mhj has convinced njs and their parents that the company has been sooo horrible even though njs is one of the hybe groups that have been given some of the most privileges that other artists can only dream of. Manipulation and grooming can take years to undo which is why i strongly believe njs needs to genuinely be away from the kpop scene and everyone associated with it, even their parents and go to a mental institution, genuinely, and just receive therapy because i can’t imagine how they are gonna feel when they realized that they were just used as a means to an end, a bargaining chip, that when using them didn’t work, she was ready for them to fade into nothing rather than see they could succeed without her. For mhj njs never dies but only if she can be a part of it, if njs can’t be hers than they might as well not exist
@@Brilenciaga I stopped reading at the "njs is one of the hybe groups that have been given the most privileges", they've been sabotaging newjeans since their debut be so fr. The narrative that njs is privileged was created by hybe stans. "they have a big dorm" because they are one of the biggest groups?? They can afford it so why not live comfortably. "Other popular hybe groups live in small dorms" well, because hybe is trash and mistreats their idols, we been knew. Mhj was the one who gave them the apartment
I couldn't agree with you more. Most people would cowardly fold under a giant corporation like Hybe but NJ were loyal, stood their ground and stood up to what they believe is just. I think they are more than just a kpop group now, they stand for loyalty, courage, dignity and a good friend, which is rare nowadays. They really are bad ass.
I just heard a story from 2023 about hanni lamenting in a live that she gets no kr language classes n mhj n ador say it's not needed. Then she had to get back on live later profusely saying mhj is not involved. She misspoke. She actually don't need lessons. I feel mhj has a strong grip n control over them. I think that's how mhj rules. I think the attachment is also from njs probably regularly sleeping over at mhj's place etc.
That’s actually a really interesting point, and it makes a lot of sense. If they’re spending so much time together, especially in such a close-knit environment like regularly staying over at her place, it’s natural they’d form a strong bond. Having someone who feels like family in an industry as intense as K-pop could create that deep attachment. In a way, it explains why they’d be so quick to defend her. They probably see her as more than just a mentor or authority figure but someone they genuinely trust and rely on.
Two major things why Newjeans supported by the people despite the controversy 1. Bunnies trust and support Newjeans decisions 2. The hate towards HYBE, that's why they choose the side of Newjeans and blindly support them.
Thanks for pointing that out! I actually came across that info months ago but had completely forgotten about it. It’s definitely an important detail, and I appreciate you reminding me! From what I’ve seen, even though MHJ wasn’t involved in their first singles, she still had direction over the group after that, shaping their image and trajectory.
I think the main reason they stand by her is the fact that they know they're not gonna get another mhj in hybe. Mhj listens to their artistic choices, she treat them like real artists and not just products, she listens to their concerns, she cares for them in a human level, she ACTUALLY cares. That's something so rare in the kpop industry, and they value her for that
She looks at them as artists??? This the same woman that sht talked about them calling them they're not artists . Mind you mhj hasn't even denied these texts
Herself, lol. Source is herself. She apologized for those messages officially two times. According to knetz, she got an earful from nj parents for fat pigs, talentless messages, thats why she never apologized about other exposees but did apologize for these ones.
I agree with you that it's rare to find someone who has your best interest in a cut throat industry like kpop. After seeing what hybe had done to fromis_9 and gfriend, you can really appreciate someone like MHJ.
I 100% agree with you there’s many allegations but non to be factual and you can clearly see how she prioritize them as artists not just products the result of it is there success and satisfaction both internally and externally which rare in K-pop.
So true they debuted bcus of her when they hybe were about to stop their debut and now that hybe contracts are exposed. It said they would disband njs anyways. Haters are really blind and so wanting to hate a girl group of minors
tbh i dont care if she really was trying to gain full control over ador without hybes knowledge or if hybe being a music bigshot is using strong arm tactics. i just hope those girls manage to get where they want to be in their careers.
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Mhj also mocked njs in her messages, woman actively told people not to call njs artists, said they weren’t artists, called them fat. She’s using them, mhj said she specifically wanted a group that would just listen to her and not question her actions and she got what she wanted. Mhj only excuses for her words/actions is that she was upset with njs🥲 and she can’t remember the context, its bs, njs are just a means for mhj to get what she wanted and now that she’s failing she would rather njs crash and burn than to continue without her
Njs concept is not unique, straight up, and it isn’t unique to mhj, there is a whole team behind njs making decisions not just mhj, that literally what she wants, to be seen as the only thing that make njs njs and thats exactly why they believe they can’t exist without her, they got groomed and manipulated horribly and their parents are mostly to blame
@@Brilenciaga
You’re not close to the girls, so you don’t know there FULL situation and the dynamics of their relationship with MHJ, and you weren’t there to see what they have gone through since debut to reach this point.
So where do you get the confidence to act like a know it all?
Is it because there “Young Girls 👧 “ you think they don’t have the maturity to make their own choices or to know when something is wrong?
Are they victims, naive, helpless little kids to you? if that’s how you see them
I want to you to know that all the shit that they have gone through has gave them strength, courage, and maturity beyond there young age and have experienced a lot and understand when it’s necessary for trusted adults to step in
So don’t underestimate them just because they’re young.
It’s sad that you view every relationship between adults and minors as grooming or creepy not every adult has an ulterior motive or is trying to manipulate someone.
I had a teacher who practically raised me and was more like a friend when I didn’t have any. my mom didn’t go like “What dose this woman have in common with my child to be talking to her” no she trusted her and was glad that she supported me in difficult transition in my life.
There was no grooming involved, and I’m grateful for her to this day.
Not every adult/minor relationship is creepy or inappropriate
The girls themselves have repeatedly said that MHJ is a great CEO and treats them well, so why is that still a concern for you? Their parents are fully supportive and involved.
Do you think all the adults around them are also being manipulated? Maybe you think there using there own children to make money?
There well off to begin with and only want what’s best for there daughters since there involved and know MHJ they know she’s the best person to mentor them.
MHJ never claimed to have created a unique concept, but you can’t deny her impact in changing kpop and whether you like it or not, NewJeans is a unique girl group.
Their success speaks for itself no one else in the industry is like them.
When you criticize them without providing clear evidence, it seems like you’re just looking for reasons to hate on MHJ
The girls are safe, happy and thriving creatively with her why are you mad?
@@hadeeljabarti5047 OMG THANK YOU SO MUCHH. I've been trying to say what you just wrote to all the people that kept saying "Its obvious that mhj groomed the girls blah blah blah" but i just couldn't find the right words to say it. Now you've said it i just wanted to thank you.
Let me summarize this in a simpler way. Someone standby and fight for their boss who got fired by the bigger boss in a big corporation. This is a fight that wont be allowed to win at any cost because it may become a precedent in the future.
These girls are separated from their parents most of the time so I think they're very protective of MHJ because she's like a motherly figure to them.
That could also be a big explanation! Seeing her as a motherly figure might really shape the way they feel and act toward her, especially since they’re away from their families.
One of the things that bothers me about njs supporting mhj is that mhj had committed some of the very actions that they are accusing hybe/ador of and they loudly support mhj but its suddenly a no no when the company allegedly does it? I can understand being groomed and manipulated but what njs is doing is purposely supporting a harmful individual just because they feel comfortable with her, newsflash, even kids who have been saed can and will sometimes defend their abusers, doesn’t mean they are a good person. Mhj has convinced njs and their parents that the company has been sooo horrible even though njs is one of the hybe groups that have been given some of the most privileges that other artists can only dream of.
Manipulation and grooming can take years to undo which is why i strongly believe njs needs to genuinely be away from the kpop scene and everyone associated with it, even their parents and go to a mental institution, genuinely, and just receive therapy because i can’t imagine how they are gonna feel when they realized that they were just used as a means to an end, a bargaining chip, that when using them didn’t work, she was ready for them to fade into nothing rather than see they could succeed without her.
For mhj njs never dies but only if she can be a part of it, if njs can’t be hers than they might as well not exist
@@Brilenciaga I stopped reading at the "njs is one of the hybe groups that have been given the most privileges", they've been sabotaging newjeans since their debut be so fr. The narrative that njs is privileged was created by hybe stans. "they have a big dorm" because they are one of the biggest groups?? They can afford it so why not live comfortably. "Other popular hybe groups live in small dorms" well, because hybe is trash and mistreats their idols, we been knew. Mhj was the one who gave them the apartment
I couldn't agree with you more. Most people would cowardly fold under a giant corporation like Hybe but NJ were loyal, stood their ground and stood up to what they believe is just.
I think they are more than just a kpop group now, they stand for loyalty, courage, dignity and a good friend, which is rare nowadays. They really are bad ass.
not you supporting new jeans and that criminal
@@annieone_1 not you supporting a multi-billion company with employees that have more cases than p diddy
I just heard a story from 2023 about hanni lamenting in a live that she gets no kr language classes n mhj n ador say it's not needed. Then she had to get back on live later profusely saying mhj is not involved. She misspoke. She actually don't need lessons. I feel mhj has a strong grip n control over them. I think that's how mhj rules. I think the attachment is also from njs probably regularly sleeping over at mhj's place etc.
That’s actually a really interesting point, and it makes a lot of sense. If they’re spending so much time together, especially in such a close-knit environment like regularly staying over at her place, it’s natural they’d form a strong bond. Having someone who feels like family in an industry as intense as K-pop could create that deep attachment. In a way, it explains why they’d be so quick to defend her. They probably see her as more than just a mentor or authority figure but someone they genuinely trust and rely on.
Two major things why Newjeans supported by the people despite the controversy
1. Bunnies trust and support Newjeans decisions
2. The hate towards HYBE, that's why they choose the side of Newjeans and blindly support them.
Mhj had nothing to do with njs' first singles! They were made in source. Njs was made n trained in source
Thanks for pointing that out! I actually came across that info months ago but had completely forgotten about it. It’s definitely an important detail, and I appreciate you reminding me! From what I’ve seen, even though MHJ wasn’t involved in their first singles, she still had direction over the group after that, shaping their image and trajectory.
I think the main reason they stand by her is the fact that they know they're not gonna get another mhj in hybe. Mhj listens to their artistic choices, she treat them like real artists and not just products, she listens to their concerns, she cares for them in a human level, she ACTUALLY cares. That's something so rare in the kpop industry, and they value her for that
She looks at them as artists??? This the same woman that sht talked about them calling them they're not artists . Mind you mhj hasn't even denied these texts
@@VeryTired-c7b source?
Herself, lol. Source is herself. She apologized for those messages officially two times. According to knetz, she got an earful from nj parents for fat pigs, talentless messages, thats why she never apologized about other exposees but did apologize for these ones.
I agree with you that it's rare to find someone who has your best interest in a cut throat industry like kpop. After seeing what hybe had done to fromis_9 and gfriend, you can really appreciate someone like MHJ.
@@lastdance7991 she never called njs fat pigs, those messages have been debunked a long time ago
I 100% agree with you there’s many allegations but non to be factual and you can clearly see how she prioritize them as artists not just products the result of it is there success and satisfaction both internally and externally which rare in K-pop.
So true they debuted bcus of her when they hybe were about to stop their debut and now that hybe contracts are exposed. It said they would disband njs anyways. Haters are really blind and so wanting to hate a girl group of minors
tbh i dont care if she really was trying to gain full control over ador without hybes knowledge or if hybe being a music bigshot is using strong arm tactics.
i just hope those girls manage to get where they want to be in their careers.