Regarding the Second Death Star, in Return of the Jedi, Emperor Palpatine basically tells us he was behind the Alliance knowing about it. It was his trap, his plan, and his motivations.
Exactly, Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be canon, wasn't it? It was a huge multimedia project back in the day, with a book, comics and a video game.
@@kevinclapson I agree. It didn’t need an explanation. And it’s never as simple as “they were told to be his servant”. There always has to be a convoluted story around it.
Everyone who owned the original Death Star Playset knew what the trash compactor creature's species was, as it was literally stated on the box. Aside from all the parts and stickers for the playset itself, included were foam "trash" pieces and Dianoga creature. Instead of a bunch of tentacles, it had wings and two long tails. but it did have the single eye stalk.
The compactor creature did not let go of Luke because Han fired at it. It let go shortly before the room started compacting. The creature knew it had to get out and abandoned it's prey.
And then we learn it was some kind of Force Baptism that ended up being how Luke managed to resist the Dark Side in RotJ all because Omi (the Dianoga's name) was Force-sensitive and sensed a seed of the Dark Side that Luke had inherited from Anakin, and she (yes, she) had to get it out of him.
The Dianoga retreated when the compactor sounds kicked in, not due to Han's shooting. Han stands ready to shoot again as we hear the compactor prepare to start. The Dianoga releases Luke and goes off to its safety spot to avoid getting crushed itself, hence the Dianoga being able to roar after the three get out of compactor 3263827...
Early in "The Empire Strikes Back" the emperor contacts Vader via hologram and mentions the son of Skywalker as a new threat. THAT is when Vader learned he had a son.
Issue 6 of the canon 2015 Darth Vader series shows how he found out: He hired Boba Fett to track down the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. Boba Fett tells Vader that he didn't track him down, but he did find out his name. Vader asks and Boba simply says "Skywalker". Darth Vader then puts two and two together and figures out that he has a son.
@@roberthogberg3300 Vader's conversation with Sidious afterward contradicts that. He didn't know that "Skywalker" was the son of Anakin until Sidious told him that. If going by their conversation, even though he knew that the pilot who destroyed the Death Star was named Skywalker, he didn't know that the pilot was Anakin's son. This was probably due to Vader's hatred for Anakin.
Vader flew around for 2 weeks trying to get a signal. Also in Empire Strikes Back, Palpatine tells Vader that the pilot that blew up the Death Star was named Luke Skywalker. Wouldn't have taken much for Vader to put it together. And then in the Special Edition, Palpatine's explicitly states that Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker.
IIRC correctly, Boba Fett tells Darth Vader that Luke is a Skywalker long before Palpatine does. Vader keeps this information to himself. In fact, much of the comic series' arc was Vader searching out information on his own, sowing a growing distrust between himself and the Emperor.
@@steventitch4169 That was in a comic that came out long after the movies. But even going on that comic, Vader didn't sense Luke was his son, only that the pilot who blew up the Death Star had some connection to the Force. So him not sensing Leia is his daughter still makes sense. Especially since at the time she was held prisoner on the Death Star, she'd had no training to use the Force, so there was nothing for Vader to sense about her.
But at the very least, Vader already knew Luke's surname during the battle of Hoth. So Palpatine really didn't tell him much more than he already knew.
3po taking the arm is less like wearing your friends scalp, and more like using your friends prosthetic arm to replace your own prosthetic. Also, the Lars lived with Shmi for an unknown amount of time with no signs of disharmony. They likely were the ones who chose to keep Luke's surname in honor of Shmi.
Nobody knew Padmé was carrying twins until she was in the birthing chamber. As for changing Luke's name, the Empire cared so little about Tattooine that it really didn't matter. What would have drawn attention was "Luke Skywalker from Tattooine" enlisting in the Imperial Academy.
No one outside of Sidious and maybe Tarkin knew that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Both of them were too busy running the Empire to be worried about a cadet application. Luke was quite anonymous until Vader sensed that the Force was strong with him on the first Death Star run.
funny how even in the future of Star Wars with all the amazing advance tech - medicine still sux that the twins weren't known in advance ...and even Anakin was unaware with all his force power perception bs
@@BlackSailfin - Padme simply did not go see an OBGyn - not everyone does. Plus, Padme and Anakin were trying to keep their relationship on the down low. IF Padme would have gone to see an OBGyn, ultrasound scans would have been done, and the twins would have been discovered way before delivery day.
personally was never confused by how Vader found out Luke was his son. To me it was obvious, that after he sensed that the Rebel pilot who destroyed the Death Star had the Force with him, and was powerful, he would become obsessed with finding out who was that pilot. During his research into Luke’s background he probably realized his full name was Skywalker. Just like his real name before he became Darth Vader, and since he was strong with the Force, he strongly suspected that that pilot was indeed his long lost son he never knew existed. But since Vader secretly always planned to eventually overthrow his master, he decided not to tell the Emperor, or anyone about what he has just found out. In the scene where the Emperor tells Vader that he has a son, and that it is Luke Skywalker, Vader has known already, but simply never brought it up until then, the Emperor probably found out the truth about Luke himself. (he likely has his own sources, or simply foresaw the truth through the Force or something) Heck, it’s even possible the Emperor was the one who told Vader about Luke being his son in the first place, prior to the events of The Empire Strikes Back. So I never understood why it was ever a question how Vader knew Luke was his son. Vader isn’t stupid. He probably found out the name of the pilot who in a way defeated and humiliated him so he can get revenge on him, then recognized they both have the same surname, and adding the whole attunedness in the Force, it was unlikely to be a mere coincidence.
I always assumed that after the Death Star was destroyed, and Vader was picked up by his Imperial cruiser (they weren't Star Destroyers until ep 5), he had some downtime to read the after action reports from Tatooine. When he read that the Lars couple that were murdered were raising a boy named Luke Skywalker, everything just fell into place.
You can make a whole list of these for just the sequel trilogy. A lot of moments there where the writers were like "let's do this, this sounds cool. Oh, crap, how do explain this? Uhh... that's a story for another time."
I agree. There is so many continuity errors that pop up because it seems the writers of the prequels ignored what was said and done in the original trilogy.
The Tag & Bink comics clearly taught us that the Bothans blatantly took credit for discovering the second Death Star from that true hero, Manny Both-hands!
I feel obliged to create time stamps: 8: 0:28 When did Darth Vader get a servant? 7: 1:36 Does General Grievous have Asthma? 6: 2:41 Who is Lobot? 5: 3:54 Why is C-3PO's arm red? 4: 5:01 What was that "thing" in the trash compactor? 3: 6:05 Where does Darth Vader go after A New Hope? 2: 7:09 How did the rebels know about the second Death Star? 1: 8:19 How did Vader know Luke was his son?
Lucke should have changed his name you are right but the Emperor him self tells Vader "The Son of Skywalker" and his response is "How is this so?" its as if THEN was when he found out.
You also forgot that Lobot stuck around Cloud City and help Lando escape, but was captured by Imperial Stormtroopers and was plugged into the city's computers to him run it.
It’s funny because it absolutely is the reason grievous is supposed to be coughing in the movie originally but since then the old Star Wars clone wars cartoon in which this occurred has become officially UN-canon. The CGI clone wars is the official part of the backstory now and it does not feature grievous suffering any injuries resulting in a cough.
It’s interesting since in return of the Jedi Mon Mothma straight up says that they learned this info thanks to Bothan spies who died in order to provide it. Bothans our a race of aliens mentioned in the Star Wars canon frequently, but never actually shown in the movies however, the comic you are talking about puts all the credit in the hands of a few humans, creating something of a plot hole in my opinion.
Also the whole story of events connecting episodes 5 and 6 can be found in the books and comics called SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. How Boba Fett runs into competitors trying to get Han Solo from him before he gets to deliver him to Jabba. How Leia got the bounty hunter outfit she shows up wearing in Jabba’s palace when she enters with Chewbacca as her ‘prisoner’. Also how Luke constructed his green lightsaber is told in that comic. And the information which Palpatine leaks to Prince Xizor’s criminal organization, from whom the Bothan spies received their information about the second Death Star’s location. Especially the information of the battle station not yet being operational. Excellent storytelling all together.. loved how these gap filling bits complete every detail between eps 5 and 6
@@alfobetic4397 Unfortunately, shadows of the empire is also officially not canon anymore either. Sure Xizor has showed up in Star Wars cartoons since but so has Thraawn and every one of his appearances in books published before the Disney acquisition are also officially not canon. Disney made it very clear when they acquired Lucas film, that nothing other than the original live action movies in the clone wars cartoon where it officially part of the story anymore, but they have sent started including characters, people like after the failure of their sequel trilogy. For example, anything, and everything containing the character Mara Jade no longer count as official cannon in any way, shape, or form. But seriously, Google “Is Shadows of the Empire” canon? The very first thing that comes up is a quote confirming that it has completely lost its canon status. So, unfortunately, even if you love something from the old Star Wars universe, it’s still almost certainly no longer official and can’t be referred to any longer as something that officially clears up modern Star Wars questions.
It might have been the fault of Owen or Beru that Luke knew his surname. Maybe one or both of them used Anakin's rightful name when telling tales, or maybe Shmi's name was on her grave and they told Luke that was his grandmother. Therefore as Luke grew into his teens he clung to the name as an icon of the father he didn't know, so when he came to rescue a Coreworlder princess, it is automatic for him to say "I'm Luke Skywalker!". Certainly he would have been insistent enough about the name that Biggs and their friends knew Luke considered himself a Skywalker. Which, on that thought, I am reminded of Tattooine Slave Culture fanon. There was an enterprising writer only a few years ago that wrote a really good fanfic series about Vader being a double agent, and a Tumblr blog expounding on the slave culture in the fic series that has given rise to a whole fanon theme that writers will toss in to expand on both Anakin and Luke's backgrounds. In it, names like Skywalker, Darklighter and Whitesun are slave stock surnames, with at least the original slave culture writer's story holding that Beru was granddaughter to a freed slave and raised Luke in knowing the slave culture, particularly knowing the recipes and family traditions she learned from Shmi, so Luke would have the true Skywalker heritage (one of which is recipes for a spiced tea that varies from family to family). At leats between the like of Luke and Biggs, there would be a shared understanding of being the freeborn sons of slave families, and maybe Beru told Luke his father had been a freed slave, and probably likewise about his grandmother, so Luke clung to the Skywalker name because it says a lot about him being freeborn. So maybe Luke was initially "Luke Lars", but he got told stories about his father and insisted he was Luke Skywalker instead.
I believe the fact Vader was Anakin was a secret known by very few people. Aside from Obi-Wan, Yoda, Ashoka, and Bail Organa, everybody else was led to believe Anakin died in battle against Vader. If Owen snd Beru were allowed to believe that as well, they may not have felt there was a reason to change Luke's name. Also at the time Luke was left in their care, Tatooine was not under the control of the Empire. Leia, on the other hand, was adopted by someone who was aware Anakin became Vader, and understood the need to change her last name.
@@RemyJackson You're right about Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Bail Organa knowing about Vader, but Ahsoka didn't know. She found out during the events of the Rebels cartoon, and was shocked when she found out. The real question is whether or not she knew that Yoda and Obi-Wan were alive, which we still don't know.
@yagsyags5694 Sorry, I should have specified what time frame I was referring to. I was referring to the starting point if the original trilogy. But I didn't actually know when Ashoka found out, so thanks for giving me that info. But I feel if very many people had known Vader was Anakin, the Rebel Aliance would have never trusted Luke. I know it apparently became public knowledge sometime between Episodes 6 and 7, destroying Leia's political career.
I don’t think any one ever rly questioned where Vader went a new hope. I’m sure most people like myself assumed he just flew to the nearest imperial outpost and called for a ship to pick him up. No need for some crazy back story.
Shadows of the Empire is an amazing novel that details much of the events occuring between TESB and ROTJ, like how did the rebels find out where Han was, how did Leia get a hold of the Bounty Hunter suit, Luke building his green saber, oh, and yeah, the Bothans who died getting the plans for the 2nd Death Star. There is also a great encounter between Darth Vader and Luke, in which Vader actually saves Luke's life by stopping his ship from getting blasted. This novel would have made for a great movie... too bad all "creative efforts" were destined to the most recent film trilogy...
Too bad Lucas himself didn't have the thought to make it when he could have, instead of the "creative efforts" that were destined to making the Prequel trilogy...
I always felt that because they had 2 kids, Luke was able to keep his surname to draw Vader out. He was bait. That’s why Obi-wan stuck around. He was waiting for Vader to come and investigate the child named Skywalker like him on the same planet he was born on. Like the universe delivered him. Ben just didn’t count on Vaders fear of the planet. Once he did, he stopped hanging around the farm and let Luke grow up with the only family that was known.
I think luke was bait for vader but uncle owen prevented obi wan from using the kid like that and is why he kept the kid from the academy. he was probably registered with that name by obi wan to draw vaders attention and owen was not able to have it changed without causing more attention
@@robertlipsett2535 - interesting, you’d think Owen would be afraid of Obi-Wan. Then again, once seeing the situation didn’t care. He wanted to protect Luke. That would fit in with the story. Or the original movie.
@@auntiem873 obi wan took anakin away and trained him to be a jedi. anakin was angry near owen and mad at the family for not helping his mother. owen did not want anything to do with jedi or bring anakin back any where near him. in the end it still got him killed
Maybe Luke didn’t change his name because Skywalker is not a unique name in Universe. It might be common on Tatooine for all we know. And Vader knew the guy who blow up the Death Star was strong with the force. Then he searched his feelings and knew it to be true.
The emperor clearly states that he allowed the Rebels to learn of it's existence and location. The Bothans who died did so only to make it all look like they were really stealing the information. If Papa Palps had wanted it kept secret, ALL of the Bothans would have died.
LOL...I remember watching it for the 200th time after seeing John Ratzenberger in the credits (Cliff from Cheers). I finally realized he was the rebel soldier on Hoth that says "Sorry your highness, the shield doors must be closed" when Luke/Han didnt return.
The original dialogue with the Emperor and Vader was “the son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.” He kinda told him there, but the later releases change that dialogue.
You know, I'm just a little bit more than salty over people calling Solo a bad movie. I *thoroughly* enjoyed it, particularly because of the little nods to the "Han Solo Trilogy" of books, including the story beats that were obviously pulled from said trilogy and rewritten. In fact, I feel it made the movie better, as it didn't outright completely invalidate the EU novels.
Who gave Luke his Jedi training? Jedi training is long and laborious. Luke trained with Yoda for essentially a weekend during Empire, before going off to Cloud City where he finds out his lineage. He asks Yoda and Obi-Wan about Vader/Anakin in Return of the Jedi. If Luke went back to Dagobah between Ep V and VI wouldn't he have brought that up at least once?
He received rudimentary lessons from Kenobi, then spent several years tracking down as much information as possible on Jedi training techniques - he definately didn't know how to Pull his lightsaber to his hand at the end of A New Hope - and Han says that with the Falcons' sublight engines - and maybe a backup hyperdrive - the trip to Bespin would take several weeks, or a month, so Luke got more training than you think. Plus the time traveled made Han and Leias' burgeoning romance more believeable.
@@Frostmourne86 But the timing still is all over the place with ESB. And it is true: Luke didn't really get a lot more training than Rey, yet she is supposed to be the Mary Sue. You need to come up with a lot of made up BS which is never spelled out in the movies to explain this in Luke's case. Just watching the movies, I always thought he is somehow talented, uses the force by instinct when flying and pulling the lightsaber was the first time he really tried something like that.
5:03, There was a book called StarToons I believe that talked about this creature which showed that the fandom at the time called it a 'scrod'. I remember several cartoons where they gave it different personas like 'sherlock scrod'
That does remind me of a couple questions I've had. 1) Why didn't the empire look up every person with "Skywalker" in their name and kill them? It seems that force sensitivity is hereditary, so why not just make sure there are no more distant relatives and deal with it before it becomes a problem. 2) At the beginning of RotJ, Vader mentions how the progress of the second Death Star is behind schedule, to which the commander replies that he needs more men. Why doesn't the emperor just give him more men, if it's so important for it to be finished on time? It's not like they would have anything better to do.
That's not actually what happened to Darth Vader after the Battle of Yavin. That comic is non-canon. He was adrift and was retrieved by a shuttle sent by his Star Destroyer, the Devastator.
The Emperor himself claims that he let the Rebels know about DS2. Remember "Its A Trap!"??? Always take the expanded materials with a big grain of salt. For me, if the movies contradict the extra stuff, the movies ALWAYS dictate what is canon. Whether you like it or not.
Maybe the naming conventions on Tatooine are like those in Westeros: bastards are all given the name Skywalker. As a result, there are a ton of Skywalkers running around, and one more wouldn't draw any attention.
Don't forget, Han Solo did NOT shoot Vader's TIE fighter. He only shot the guy on Vader's right. The other TIE Fighter pilot then panicked and crashed into Vader's TIE fighter. The only thing that saved Luke's life was that moment of panic.
Even without the comics, we really don’t need an expansion on where Vader went after the Battle of Yavin. Researched will point out that the TIE Advanced x1 unlike a TIE Fighter has hyperdrive (and shields; just something else a TIE Fighter doesn’t have); so clearly without the comics, a simple explanation is Vader jumped to an Imperial base, or Coruscant . . . Edit: The correct answer to how the Rebels learned of the second Death Star is “Play X-Wing Alliance with Ace Azzameen” :3
The Rebels would have spread the story of the Death Star's destruction across the galaxy, including the name of the pilot responsible for it. Vader already knew he was strong in the Force. Given they have the same surname it really wouldn't be difficult for him to figure it out.
Two videos in from this channel and it’s already obvious that more googling was done to find answers to questions no one was asking rather than even watching and knowing the original films for easy blatant answers to many of them.
Two very possible answers to the "Skywalker" name question. First, it's possible Skywalker is a very common name, like Smith, Jones, Lee, etc. Just because someone is a Skywalker, doesn't mean he is any relation to Anakin or Smee Second possible answer; When Kenobi delivered the baby to Lars and Beru and told them the boys name, he believed Anakin was DEAD.
The second answer doesn't quite cut it, though. Obi-Wan knew hiding Luke was part of the big plan of training him at some point so he could defeat the Emperor. The Emperor could be looking for any "Skywalker", some kind of alert in all databases would actually make sense, so as soon as Luke applies for the Imperial Academy (which he plans to do, as mentioned in ANH) or gets as much as a speeding ticket on an Empire-controlled world he'd set off an alarm. Further, even if it is somehow implied Obi-Wan never knew Anakin had survived past Mustafar, he learned about the existence of Darth Vader at some point, and knew he was Anakin. So he should have run to Owen and Beru ASAP and told them: "This is Luke Lars now, I don't care this sounds ridiculous!!!" Simple answer: Not even the creators knew Luke was Vader's son when they came up with the name. I can live with that and accept that it is a minor plothole not to change his name.
"Luke Lars" lol! When I was young, I was led to believe that Luke was known as Wormy Lars around Tosche Station, "Wormy" because he was the smallest of all his friends.
Vader's ship had hyperdrive. He just zoomed back to the fleet. How did the rebels know about the 2nd Death Star? It's made pretty clear in RotJ that Palpatine has been leaking intelligence to draw the fleet to him. Why did this need further explanation?
The reason general grievous was coughing in revenge of the sith it was because Mac windu force crushed his chest plate which resulted in him having his eternal organs critically damaged
I hate lists like this. I was never "confused" by any of these points. I don't need every single little minor detail or character explained or given its own unnecessary or convoluted back story. Details like these offer mystery and add flavor to the world-building. It's okay to leave some things unanswered. The fact that there are no more mysteries left in Star Wars has virtually ruined it...
He engaged his hyperdrive to fly to the next Imperial base? Or he waited 10 minutes for the Imperial Starfleet investigating the Death Star wreckage? Because there is only these two options, everything else makes less than zero sense. It literally makes negative sense.
Lucas knew the secret of Vader - he wrote the script! Actors David Prowse and Mark Hamill didn't know....... I seem to recall David Prowse's line was written / scripted as "Obi-wan is your father". That was later dubbed by James Earl Jones to "No, I am your father:" Luke's reaction would be the same either way. Only Mark was told the real truth shortly before doing the scene by Irvin Kershner, the Director.
No, at that time Vader already knew. It's even stated in the opening crawl: "The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes..."
Why does Obi Wan not remember owning a droid in ep IV? This is answered in Ep ii and iii where we see him losing astronomical droids in combat. It turns out he doesn't form strong bonds with droids like other pilots do. And he's crossed paths with many droids in his time. it's likely he's telling the truth that he simply doesn't remember that he at one time had the title card to a particular droid.
Yes, and he never technically owned R2-D2 because he was Anakin's. Still kind of a half-stupid explanation since R2-D2 clearly stands out in Ep. 1-3 and he should recognize and remember that one. They shouldn't have included the droids in the prequels, but they wanted them for the audience to make the connection. That way, the whole Star Wars saga is actually "The life and times of R2-D2 and C-3PO".
@@cl8733 but again hes an old man, he was a general, he was on many adventures. He just doesnt remember because droids arent his thing. It would be like Joe Biden not remembering the intern who worked in his staff back in 2006.
because he never DID own R2 - R2 was just an astromech on the Queen's ship until gifted to Anakin. His droid "R4" was a part of his jedi fighter, but was never a "friend" as R2 is portrayed. Seems Anakin did likewise with Threepio because he became Padme's goto protocol droid. Padme appreciated Threepio much more than her future daughter will.....
@@andrewmurray1550 Again, still doesn't quite make sense. Why wouldn't he say "I know him, even though he technically was your father's." It's a plothole we have to accept.
On Lobot There is a different story told as well The other story says he was a criminal that was caught cheating on Besbin and was giving a choice of life working in the Tibanna mines or becoming the cyborg we know in the movies
I have a question that confuses me. When i went on holiday to Turkey in 2007, i was amazed by how many of these Turkish people, many of who lived in villages & had never been to England, spoke English. I'm English & I cant lie, sometimes I struggle with the lingo. So basically, what I'm asking, is how, a long time ago ina galaxy far, far away, how did so many people, creatures, & even robots know how to speak English? It really is so impressive with peoples lingual abilities.
Why were the Medium transports at the Battle of Endor when they seemed to just sit there. The answer is more meta than cannon. it's because in the Star Wars universe we typically don't see small scale anti aircraft fire. Compare that to BSG where we see every .50 cal in a dizzying display. In the Star Wars universe we only see large caliber fire when we are a mile away from a large ship. So the medium transports were there for anti aircraft cover you just can't see it. Similar role of destroyers around carriers in the Pacific Theater.
If anyone had done research on how Star Wars was created and written by Lucas the characters and thier backgrounds were in constant flux. Basically when Star Wars the first movie was made Luke Skywalker was ineed Anakin Skywalker's son but Lucas had not made him Dath Vader's son. This choice was decided on when Lucas was working on the script to Empire after the rewrite when the writer he hired to do the script passed away. Lucas was an organic idea man and creator as his story was always in flux till it was filmed.
I didn't ask myself since when Vader has a servant. I would rather ask how did I come to it. But actually it was for me a natural thing for a Lord of the Sith to have a servant. But the most important question should be, why Owen Las never thought to chance Lukes Suriname, being so worried about Obi-Was presence. The surname of the boy is a much glaring mistake.
Anwer: When Luke Skywalker was created, nobody knew his father Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Including the creators. Mystery solved. It later became a minor plothole. I think we can deal with it and don't have to come up with silly excuses.
Lando’s smuggler friend gets killed and ends up running his city. His droid lover gets killed and ends up running his space ship. There seems to be a pattern here. Where will Jannah end up?
Skywalker could be a common name. Maybe it's like Smith, or Jones. A traditional name of descendents of space pilots. Maybe there are a dozen other Skywalkers on Tattooine of similar age, and Vader did not know that his son was named Luke. Leia, on the other hand, being raised by Senators and not just a couple of farmers, needed extra protection from being found. Luke was just a farmboy, and would not have drawn attention. As far as we know, Owen and Beru may have been Obi-wan's family who Anakin knew little about. Luke could have been just one of a dozen farmboys of similar age named Skywalker on Tattooine, and Anakin had no way of knowing that his son was named Luke. Only when Luke joined the Rebel Alliance and was shown to be strong in the force would he have stood out. One more thing: a few of the newer movies are very good. But I consider only the six movies made by Lucas himself to be canon.
Where did Vader's suit come from? Palpy finds well done Ani on Mustafar, loads him up on the shuttle, and B lines it back to Coruscant. There, medical droids perform emergency surgery on Anikan. Suddenly there's perfect prosthetics and a suit that is basically a wearable life support system.
The one absurdity that ruined my Star Wars fandom is Obi Wan lying to Luke about his father. They can spin it any way they want, his explanation to Luke (that he was speaking metaphorically when he said Luke's father was dead) doesn't hold water. Who would do that?? If your dad was in prison and your uncle told you he was dead, you wouldn't buy it if he explained "What I meant was the man that I knew as your father died" you would be furious. The fact is, Lucas decided on the fly that Vader was Luke's father to give Empire a dramatic plot twist.
you got out early, then. there are a lot of things making less sense. I think it even makes some sense, not letting Luke know his father is alive, because that would lead to Luke searching for his father before having any training. So even if it is a kind of contradiction and I agree they hadn't set up Anakin as Darth Vader and not even Darth Vader as the Uber-villain second only to the Emperor at that time. But even in hindsight I actually would not change this. It makes sense to lie to Luke at that point in time.
Luke going around as "Luke Skywalker" is no better than Kenobi going around as "Ben Kenobi" rather than "Obi-wan". I mean Luke figured it out. Why wouldn't the Empire? And come to think of it the two droids they were chasing in ANH, Vader didn't say to his troops "Those droids you're looking fore.....the Protocol one I built in my bedroom when I was a kid, and the astromech was owned by my wife when she ruled Naboo as Queen".
At that point in time, Vader already knew. He literally said "Skywalker is there" when he ordered the attack on Hoth. It also literally says in the opening crawl: "The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes..."
Regarding the Second Death Star, in Return of the Jedi, Emperor Palpatine basically tells us he was behind the Alliance knowing about it. It was his trap, his plan, and his motivations.
Also the Botham mission is detailed in shadows of the empire
This channel is a good example of “definitely not the right people for this content, but they got motivated one day and happen to know how to edit..”
Yeah, he says it straight out in ROTJ.
Exactly, Shadows of the Empire was supposed to be canon, wasn't it? It was a huge multimedia project back in the day, with a book, comics and a video game.
Dash Rendar stole the plan after Luke told him where they are
The fact that Darth Vader has a servant is not a question that ever confused me. I didn’t care nor was an explanation needed.
We don’t care nor need an explanation for your opinion bud, move along
@@JLMarten77you sound like someone from my hometown in Alberta, I love it 😎🤙🙌
I found it funny that it needed an explanation. Vader isn't some chump in the Empire, he's kind of a big deal.
@@kevinclapson I agree. It didn’t need an explanation. And it’s never as simple as “they were told to be his servant”. There always has to be a convoluted story around it.
So tell us you don't understand the Star Wars expanded universe without telling us.
Everyone who owned the original Death Star Playset knew what the trash compactor creature's species was, as it was literally stated on the box. Aside from all the parts and stickers for the playset itself, included were foam "trash" pieces and Dianoga creature. Instead of a bunch of tentacles, it had wings and two long tails. but it did have the single eye stalk.
There was also a giant version of it as a boss in Shadows of the Empire.
Fought a bunch in the FPS game dark forces ;) 1994ish
The compactor creature did not let go of Luke because Han fired at it. It let go shortly before the room started compacting. The creature knew it had to get out and abandoned it's prey.
And then we learn it was some kind of Force Baptism that ended up being how Luke managed to resist the Dark Side in RotJ all because Omi (the Dianoga's name) was Force-sensitive and sensed a seed of the Dark Side that Luke had inherited from Anakin, and she (yes, she) had to get it out of him.
The Dianoga retreated when the compactor sounds kicked in, not due to Han's shooting. Han stands ready to shoot again as we hear the compactor prepare to start. The Dianoga releases Luke and goes off to its safety spot to avoid getting crushed itself, hence the Dianoga being able to roar after the three get out of compactor 3263827...
Early in "The Empire Strikes Back" the emperor contacts Vader via hologram and mentions the son of Skywalker as a new threat. THAT is when Vader learned he had a son.
That’s what I was thinking - the scene when the emperor states “The son of skywalker must not become a Jedi.” ?
"That's it. The Rebels are there. And I am sure Skywalker is with them."
He knew way before that.
Issue 6 of the canon 2015 Darth Vader series shows how he found out: He hired Boba Fett to track down the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. Boba Fett tells Vader that he didn't track him down, but he did find out his name. Vader asks and Boba simply says "Skywalker". Darth Vader then puts two and two together and figures out that he has a son.
@@roberthogberg3300 Vader's conversation with Sidious afterward contradicts that. He didn't know that "Skywalker" was the son of Anakin until Sidious told him that. If going by their conversation, even though he knew that the pilot who destroyed the Death Star was named Skywalker, he didn't know that the pilot was Anakin's son. This was probably due to Vader's hatred for Anakin.
@@l3nsman That is a retcon 35 years AFTER Empire, where Vader first found out.
Vader flew around for 2 weeks trying to get a signal.
Also in Empire Strikes Back, Palpatine tells Vader that the pilot that blew up the Death Star was named Luke Skywalker. Wouldn't have taken much for Vader to put it together.
And then in the Special Edition, Palpatine's explicitly states that Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker.
IIRC correctly, Boba Fett tells Darth Vader that Luke is a Skywalker long before Palpatine does. Vader keeps this information to himself. In fact, much of the comic series' arc was Vader searching out information on his own, sowing a growing distrust between himself and the Emperor.
@@steventitch4169 That was in a comic that came out long after the movies. But even going on that comic, Vader didn't sense Luke was his son, only that the pilot who blew up the Death Star had some connection to the Force. So him not sensing Leia is his daughter still makes sense. Especially since at the time she was held prisoner on the Death Star, she'd had no training to use the Force, so there was nothing for Vader to sense about her.
But at the very least, Vader already knew Luke's surname during the battle of Hoth. So Palpatine really didn't tell him much more than he already knew.
@@kyguy3242 Yes, but it was still because he was told by someone, not because he sensed he had a familial connection
Which is weird, because Vader's TIE Advanced x1 is meant to have a Hyperdrive.
3po taking the arm is less like wearing your friends scalp, and more like using your friends prosthetic arm to replace your own prosthetic. Also, the Lars lived with Shmi for an unknown amount of time with no signs of disharmony. They likely were the ones who chose to keep Luke's surname in honor of Shmi.
How about like putting a fallen comrade's eye in your socket, as Kakashi did in Naruto?
Nobody knew Padmé was carrying twins until she was in the birthing chamber.
As for changing Luke's name, the Empire cared so little about Tattooine that it really didn't matter. What would have drawn attention was "Luke Skywalker from Tattooine" enlisting in the Imperial Academy.
I get what you’re saying about not changing Luke Skywalkers name but at the same time why NOT change it?
No one outside of Sidious and maybe Tarkin knew that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Both of them were too busy running the Empire to be worried about a cadet application. Luke was quite anonymous until Vader sensed that the Force was strong with him on the first Death Star run.
Tarkin and Thrawn both knew. The former never voiced his opinion and Thrawn trolled Vader hilariously all through the book Alliances.
funny how even in the future of Star Wars with all the amazing advance tech - medicine still sux that the twins weren't known in advance ...and even Anakin was unaware with all his force power perception bs
@@BlackSailfin - Padme simply did not go see an OBGyn - not everyone does. Plus, Padme and Anakin were trying to keep their relationship on the down low. IF Padme would have gone to see an OBGyn, ultrasound scans would have been done, and the twins would have been discovered way before delivery day.
personally was never confused by how Vader found out Luke was his son. To me it was obvious, that after he sensed that the Rebel pilot who destroyed the Death Star had the Force with him, and was powerful, he would become obsessed with finding out who was that pilot. During his research into Luke’s background he probably realized his full name was Skywalker. Just like his real name before he became Darth Vader, and since he was strong with the Force, he strongly suspected that that pilot was indeed his long lost son he never knew existed. But since Vader secretly always planned to eventually overthrow his master, he decided not to tell the Emperor, or anyone about what he has just found out.
In the scene where the Emperor tells Vader that he has a son, and that it is Luke Skywalker, Vader has known already, but simply never brought it up until then, the Emperor probably found out the truth about Luke himself. (he likely has his own sources, or simply foresaw the truth through the Force or something) Heck, it’s even possible the Emperor was the one who told Vader about Luke being his son in the first place, prior to the events of The Empire Strikes Back.
So I never understood why it was ever a question how Vader knew Luke was his son. Vader isn’t stupid. He probably found out the name of the pilot who in a way defeated and humiliated him so he can get revenge on him, then recognized they both have the same surname, and adding the whole attunedness in the Force, it was unlikely to be a mere coincidence.
The Emperor tells Luke in return that he allowed the rebellion to learn the location of the second death Star.
I always assumed that after the Death Star was destroyed, and Vader was picked up by his Imperial cruiser (they weren't Star Destroyers until ep 5), he had some downtime to read the after action reports from Tatooine. When he read that the Lars couple that were murdered were raising a boy named Luke Skywalker, everything just fell into place.
The emperor literally told Vader that Anakin Skywalker had a son in his first appearance
Came here to say this.
Yep, that's the way I remembered it.
Right I Remember that in empire strikes back.
You can make a whole list of these for just the sequel trilogy. A lot of moments there where the writers were like "let's do this, this sounds cool. Oh, crap, how do explain this? Uhh... that's a story for another time."
I agree. There is so many continuity errors that pop up because it seems the writers of the prequels ignored what was said and done in the original trilogy.
The Tag & Bink comics clearly taught us that the Bothans blatantly took credit for discovering the second Death Star from that true hero, Manny Both-hands!
I feel obliged to create time stamps:
8: 0:28 When did Darth Vader get a servant?
7: 1:36 Does General Grievous have Asthma?
6: 2:41 Who is Lobot?
5: 3:54 Why is C-3PO's arm red?
4: 5:01 What was that "thing" in the trash compactor?
3: 6:05 Where does Darth Vader go after A New Hope?
2: 7:09 How did the rebels know about the second Death Star?
1: 8:19 How did Vader know Luke was his son?
Lucke should have changed his name you are right but the Emperor him self tells Vader "The Son of Skywalker" and his response is "How is this so?" its as if THEN was when he found out.
I think Vader knew Luke was his son, but was surprised that he was getting Jedi Training in some way since it was thought that all the Jedi were dead.
You know when you watch to much Star Wars when you can answer almost all these questions.
How did Vader survived two weeks without food and water?
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
He's more machine now than man.
You also forgot that Lobot stuck around Cloud City and help Lando escape, but was captured by Imperial Stormtroopers and was plugged into the city's computers to him run it.
It’s funny because it absolutely is the reason grievous is supposed to be coughing in the movie originally but since then the old Star Wars clone wars cartoon in which this occurred has become officially UN-canon. The CGI clone wars is the official part of the backstory now and it does not feature grievous suffering any injuries resulting in a cough.
Came here to say (more or less) exactly this. The Mace Windu explanation is no longer canon.
It’s interesting since in return of the Jedi Mon Mothma straight up says that they learned this info thanks to Bothan spies who died in order to provide it. Bothans our a race of aliens mentioned in the Star Wars canon frequently, but never actually shown in the movies however, the comic you are talking about puts all the credit in the hands of a few humans, creating something of a plot hole in my opinion.
They learned the LOCATION because of the Bothans, the EXISTENCE was learned by those two randos
Also the whole story of events connecting episodes 5 and 6 can be found in the books and comics called SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE. How Boba Fett runs into competitors trying to get Han Solo from him before he gets to deliver him to Jabba. How Leia got the bounty hunter outfit she shows up wearing in Jabba’s palace when she enters with Chewbacca as her ‘prisoner’.
Also how Luke constructed his green lightsaber is told in that comic. And the information which Palpatine leaks to Prince Xizor’s criminal organization, from whom the Bothan spies received their information about the second Death Star’s location. Especially the information of the battle station not yet being operational.
Excellent storytelling all together.. loved how these gap filling bits complete every detail between eps 5 and 6
@@alfobetic4397 oh my God, I love shadows of the empire so damn much
@@MichlVal Oh, so it actually says that in the comic and shows that the Bothans were involved?
@@alfobetic4397 Unfortunately, shadows of the empire is also officially not canon anymore either. Sure Xizor has showed up in Star Wars cartoons since but so has Thraawn and every one of his appearances in books published before the Disney acquisition are also officially not canon. Disney made it very clear when they acquired Lucas film, that nothing other than the original live action movies in the clone wars cartoon where it officially part of the story anymore, but they have sent started including characters, people like after the failure of their sequel trilogy. For example, anything, and everything containing the character Mara Jade no longer count as official cannon in any way, shape, or form. But seriously, Google “Is Shadows of the Empire” canon? The very first thing that comes up is a quote confirming that it has completely lost its canon status. So, unfortunately, even if you love something from the old Star Wars universe, it’s still almost certainly no longer official and can’t be referred to any longer as something that officially clears up modern Star Wars questions.
It might have been the fault of Owen or Beru that Luke knew his surname. Maybe one or both of them used Anakin's rightful name when telling tales, or maybe Shmi's name was on her grave and they told Luke that was his grandmother. Therefore as Luke grew into his teens he clung to the name as an icon of the father he didn't know, so when he came to rescue a Coreworlder princess, it is automatic for him to say "I'm Luke Skywalker!". Certainly he would have been insistent enough about the name that Biggs and their friends knew Luke considered himself a Skywalker.
Which, on that thought, I am reminded of Tattooine Slave Culture fanon. There was an enterprising writer only a few years ago that wrote a really good fanfic series about Vader being a double agent, and a Tumblr blog expounding on the slave culture in the fic series that has given rise to a whole fanon theme that writers will toss in to expand on both Anakin and Luke's backgrounds. In it, names like Skywalker, Darklighter and Whitesun are slave stock surnames, with at least the original slave culture writer's story holding that Beru was granddaughter to a freed slave and raised Luke in knowing the slave culture, particularly knowing the recipes and family traditions she learned from Shmi, so Luke would have the true Skywalker heritage (one of which is recipes for a spiced tea that varies from family to family). At leats between the like of Luke and Biggs, there would be a shared understanding of being the freeborn sons of slave families, and maybe Beru told Luke his father had been a freed slave, and probably likewise about his grandmother, so Luke clung to the Skywalker name because it says a lot about him being freeborn.
So maybe Luke was initially "Luke Lars", but he got told stories about his father and insisted he was Luke Skywalker instead.
I believe the fact Vader was Anakin was a secret known by very few people. Aside from Obi-Wan, Yoda, Ashoka, and Bail Organa, everybody else was led to believe Anakin died in battle against Vader. If Owen snd Beru were allowed to believe that as well, they may not have felt there was a reason to change Luke's name. Also at the time Luke was left in their care, Tatooine was not under the control of the Empire.
Leia, on the other hand, was adopted by someone who was aware Anakin became Vader, and understood the need to change her last name.
@@RemyJackson You're right about Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Bail Organa knowing about Vader, but Ahsoka didn't know. She found out during the events of the Rebels cartoon, and was shocked when she found out. The real question is whether or not she knew that Yoda and Obi-Wan were alive, which we still don't know.
@yagsyags5694 Sorry, I should have specified what time frame I was referring to. I was referring to the starting point if the original trilogy. But I didn't actually know when Ashoka found out, so thanks for giving me that info. But I feel if very many people had known Vader was Anakin, the Rebel Aliance would have never trusted Luke.
I know it apparently became public knowledge sometime between Episodes 6 and 7, destroying Leia's political career.
"Many Bothans died getting us this information." Mon Motha when briefing the team leaders on the attack plans for the second Death Star.
I don’t think any one ever rly questioned where Vader went a new hope. I’m sure most people like myself assumed he just flew to the nearest imperial outpost and called for a ship to pick him up. No need for some crazy back story.
Shadows of the Empire is an amazing novel that details much of the events occuring between TESB and ROTJ, like how did the rebels find out where Han was, how did Leia get a hold of the Bounty Hunter suit, Luke building his green saber, oh, and yeah, the Bothans who died getting the plans for the 2nd Death Star. There is also a great encounter between Darth Vader and Luke, in which Vader actually saves Luke's life by stopping his ship from getting blasted. This novel would have made for a great movie... too bad all "creative efforts" were destined to the most recent film trilogy...
Too bad Lucas himself didn't have the thought to make it when he could have, instead of the "creative efforts" that were destined to making the Prequel trilogy...
I always felt that because they had 2 kids, Luke was able to keep his surname to draw Vader out.
He was bait.
That’s why Obi-wan stuck around.
He was waiting for Vader to come and investigate the child named Skywalker like him on the same planet he was born on.
Like the universe delivered him.
Ben just didn’t count on Vaders fear of the planet.
Once he did, he stopped hanging around the farm and let Luke grow up with the only family that was known.
Anakin wasn't born on Tattooine. They were brought there when he was 3 as slaves.
@@brianstrutter1501 - it’s still the only planet he knows.
I think luke was bait for vader but uncle owen prevented obi wan from using the kid like that and is why he kept the kid from the academy. he was probably registered with that name by obi wan to draw vaders attention and owen was not able to have it changed without causing more attention
@@robertlipsett2535 - interesting, you’d think Owen would be afraid of Obi-Wan.
Then again, once seeing the situation didn’t care. He wanted to protect Luke.
That would fit in with the story.
Or the original movie.
@@auntiem873 obi wan took anakin away and trained him to be a jedi. anakin was angry near owen and mad at the family for not helping his mother. owen did not want anything to do with jedi or bring anakin back any where near him. in the end it still got him killed
"Somehow Palpatine returned."
F--king HOW THOUGH?!
Maybe Luke didn’t change his name because Skywalker is not a unique name in Universe. It might be common on Tatooine for all we know. And Vader knew the guy who blow up the Death Star was strong with the force. Then he searched his feelings and knew it to be true.
that metal delivery "skirt" that was abave Padme must have made for a tight delivery. LOL
"How did the Alliance learn about the new Death Star?". Simple, "The whole point of a doomsday weapon is lost IF YOU KEEP IT A SECRET!"
The emperor clearly states that he allowed the Rebels to learn of it's existence and location. The Bothans who died did so only to make it all look like they were really stealing the information. If Papa Palps had wanted it kept secret, ALL of the Bothans would have died.
6:07 C'mon, everyone knows he kept flying around trying to get a signal so he could call Palpy...
What the fuck is an Aluminum Falcon
@@cholizoA Falcon made of aluminum. 😁
I remember watching Empire strikes back as a kid and thinking that Lobot was played by Phil Collins.
LOL...I remember watching it for the 200th time after seeing John Ratzenberger in the credits (Cliff from Cheers). I finally realized he was the rebel soldier on Hoth that says "Sorry your highness, the shield doors must be closed" when Luke/Han didnt return.
Lobot was also in Star Wars Demolition.
The original dialogue with the Emperor and Vader was “the son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi.” He kinda told him there, but the later releases change that dialogue.
You know, I'm just a little bit more than salty over people calling Solo a bad movie. I *thoroughly* enjoyed it, particularly because of the little nods to the "Han Solo Trilogy" of books, including the story beats that were obviously pulled from said trilogy and rewritten. In fact, I feel it made the movie better, as it didn't outright completely invalidate the EU novels.
Loved that trilogy.
I really enjoyed Solo, too, and completely agree with you!
I turned it off!
There was no source material.- Kathleen Kennedy. (steals story ideas from EU....)
I also enjoyed Solo. I suggest you read the novelization, because I suspect that Ron Howard cut a lot of it out at the last minute.
heres a fun one, ewan's kenobis hello there is a call back to alek's kenobi's first spoken line in a new hope
Everybody knows that.
Who gave Luke his Jedi training? Jedi training is long and laborious. Luke trained with Yoda for essentially a weekend during Empire, before going off to Cloud City where he finds out his lineage. He asks Yoda and Obi-Wan about Vader/Anakin in Return of the Jedi. If Luke went back to Dagobah between Ep V and VI wouldn't he have brought that up at least once?
He received rudimentary lessons from Kenobi, then spent several years tracking down as much information as possible on Jedi training techniques - he definately didn't know how to Pull his lightsaber to his hand at the end of A New Hope - and Han says that with the Falcons' sublight engines - and maybe a backup hyperdrive - the trip to Bespin would take several weeks, or a month, so Luke got more training than you think. Plus the time traveled made Han and Leias' burgeoning romance more believeable.
@@Frostmourne86 But the timing still is all over the place with ESB. And it is true: Luke didn't really get a lot more training than Rey, yet she is supposed to be the Mary Sue. You need to come up with a lot of made up BS which is never spelled out in the movies to explain this in Luke's case. Just watching the movies, I always thought he is somehow talented, uses the force by instinct when flying and pulling the lightsaber was the first time he really tried something like that.
“Comic Bouk,” I’m sorry but you’re accent cracks me up.
5:03, There was a book called StarToons I believe that talked about this creature which showed that the fandom at the time called it a 'scrod'. I remember several cartoons where they gave it different personas like 'sherlock scrod'
That does remind me of a couple questions I've had.
1) Why didn't the empire look up every person with "Skywalker" in their name and kill them? It seems that force sensitivity is hereditary, so why not just make sure there are no more distant relatives and deal with it before it becomes a problem.
2) At the beginning of RotJ, Vader mentions how the progress of the second Death Star is behind schedule, to which the commander replies that he needs more men. Why doesn't the emperor just give him more men, if it's so important for it to be finished on time? It's not like they would have anything better to do.
Grievous’ downfall was his training in the “Jedi arts”. Had he fought like a machine he would have devastated Obi Wan.
"Death Star 2, Electric Boogaloo" 😂
I wonder how many Gen-Xers got that!
Now you mention it, the fact that luke's surname wasn't changed to protect him is ridiculous
2:12 That is legends. In the New Clone Wars grievous also is coughing in the beginning of the wars. The canonical answer is that his lung is injured.
I've never heard anyone feel any sympathy for the trash compactor monster. 😂
That's not actually what happened to Darth Vader after the Battle of Yavin. That comic is non-canon. He was adrift and was retrieved by a shuttle sent by his Star Destroyer, the Devastator.
The red arm was just an excuse to have another variant of toy to sell
The Emperor himself claims that he let the Rebels know about DS2. Remember "Its A Trap!"???
Always take the expanded materials with a big grain of salt. For me, if the movies contradict the extra stuff, the movies ALWAYS dictate what is canon. Whether you like it or not.
"Somehow, the Death Star is back. "
Maybe the naming conventions on Tatooine are like those in Westeros: bastards are all given the name Skywalker. As a result, there are a ton of Skywalkers running around, and one more wouldn't draw any attention.
Don't forget, Han Solo did NOT shoot Vader's TIE fighter. He only shot the guy on Vader's right. The other TIE Fighter pilot then panicked and crashed into Vader's TIE fighter. The only thing that saved Luke's life was that moment of panic.
Even without the comics, we really don’t need an expansion on where Vader went after the Battle of Yavin. Researched will point out that the TIE Advanced x1 unlike a TIE Fighter has hyperdrive (and shields; just something else a TIE Fighter doesn’t have); so clearly without the comics, a simple explanation is Vader jumped to an Imperial base, or Coruscant . . .
Edit: The correct answer to how the Rebels learned of the second Death Star is “Play X-Wing Alliance with Ace Azzameen” :3
Or read Shadows of the Empire. That XWA mission is inspired by it, all the way down to the dialogue.
The Rebels would have spread the story of the Death Star's destruction across the galaxy, including the name of the pilot responsible for it. Vader already knew he was strong in the Force. Given they have the same surname it really wouldn't be difficult for him to figure it out.
He's the caretaker of the fortress and remains there which is why we don't see him anywhere else
Im just here waiting for people to complain about how the comics don't count as explanations. 😂
Two videos in from this channel and it’s already obvious that more googling was done to find answers to questions no one was asking rather than even watching and knowing the original films for easy blatant answers to many of them.
Ah ye mad Welshman!
I always thought Lobot was deaf and/or mute since he had no lines in ESB and wore that headgear.
The 2003 clone wars isn't canon, though.
I don't think many people care about canon anymore, you know, since the Trainwreck that was rise of skywalker
I honestly think Star Wars has evolved into a genre where head canon is the only thing that matters
@@cillianwatters5619 Meh, George never cared about canon, why should we?
Two very possible answers to the "Skywalker" name question.
First, it's possible Skywalker is a very common name, like Smith, Jones, Lee, etc. Just because someone is a Skywalker, doesn't mean he is any relation to Anakin or Smee
Second possible answer; When Kenobi delivered the baby to Lars and Beru and told them the boys name, he believed Anakin was DEAD.
The second answer doesn't quite cut it, though. Obi-Wan knew hiding Luke was part of the big plan of training him at some point so he could defeat the Emperor. The Emperor could be looking for any "Skywalker", some kind of alert in all databases would actually make sense, so as soon as Luke applies for the Imperial Academy (which he plans to do, as mentioned in ANH) or gets as much as a speeding ticket on an Empire-controlled world he'd set off an alarm. Further, even if it is somehow implied Obi-Wan never knew Anakin had survived past Mustafar, he learned about the existence of Darth Vader at some point, and knew he was Anakin. So he should have run to Owen and Beru ASAP and told them: "This is Luke Lars now, I don't care this sounds ridiculous!!!"
Simple answer: Not even the creators knew Luke was Vader's son when they came up with the name. I can live with that and accept that it is a minor plothole not to change his name.
Vader learned of Leia from Luke as he was probing his mind during their death star throne room fight.
Grevious was forced choke by Mace Windu according to the first version of the Clone Wars. That is why he talks the way he does
“Deathstar 2 electric Boogaloo”…. 😂
"Luke Lars" lol! When I was young, I was led to believe that Luke was known as Wormy Lars around Tosche Station, "Wormy" because he was the smallest of all his friends.
yeah - and that supports Leia's comment "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?".
Rogue One and Solo are the only good movies of the Disney Era.
Vader's ship had hyperdrive. He just zoomed back to the fleet.
How did the rebels know about the 2nd Death Star? It's made pretty clear in RotJ that Palpatine has been leaking intelligence to draw the fleet to him. Why did this need further explanation?
The lower part of C-3PO's right leg is and has always been silver. You can see it even in some of the clips used in this video.
boba fett told vader a kid named skywalker was a pain in the butt, vader being smart and of course the force knew right away he was his son
Before I found out jai Seelal was a cyborg Kaleesh I wondered "What kind of a droid coughed?!!!". 😆🤓😎✌🏻
Anakin/Vader searched his feelings, he knew it to be true.
02:55 The white bearded trooper is actually the clone trooper "Rex".
The reason general grievous was coughing in revenge of the sith it was because Mac windu force crushed his chest plate which resulted in him having his eternal organs critically damaged
I hate lists like this. I was never "confused" by any of these points. I don't need every single little minor detail or character explained or given its own unnecessary or convoluted back story. Details like these offer mystery and add flavor to the world-building. It's okay to leave some things unanswered. The fact that there are no more mysteries left in Star Wars has virtually ruined it...
Who really cared where/why/how Vader had a P.A.? Who was this a burning question for? WHO GIVES A FÙCK?!?
The book "Lost Stars" explains what happened to Vader for after the Death Star.
He engaged his hyperdrive to fly to the next Imperial base? Or he waited 10 minutes for the Imperial Starfleet investigating the Death Star wreckage? Because there is only these two options, everything else makes less than zero sense. It literally makes negative sense.
The trash compactor monster worked for Darthenshmurtz.
Lucas knew the secret of Vader - he wrote the script! Actors David Prowse and Mark Hamill didn't know....... I seem to recall David Prowse's line was written / scripted as "Obi-wan is your father". That was later dubbed by James Earl Jones to "No, I am your father:" Luke's reaction would be the same either way. Only Mark was told the real truth shortly before doing the scene by Irvin Kershner, the Director.
The question that most confused me is why Disney would rather lose money than gain an even greater following.
This list should be the answered Star Wars questions no one asked or cared about. Or in how Vader got Luke’s name the one Star Wars can’t decide on.
I had the toy of the compactor. It came with the monster. He looks like a big one eye fish
"How did Vader know Luke was his son?" Well, the Emperor told him... Duh.
No, at that time Vader already knew. It's even stated in the opening crawl: "The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes..."
Why does Obi Wan not remember owning a droid in ep IV? This is answered in Ep ii and iii where we see him losing astronomical droids in combat. It turns out he doesn't form strong bonds with droids like other pilots do. And he's crossed paths with many droids in his time. it's likely he's telling the truth that he simply doesn't remember that he at one time had the title card to a particular droid.
Yes, and he never technically owned R2-D2 because he was Anakin's. Still kind of a half-stupid explanation since R2-D2 clearly stands out in Ep. 1-3 and he should recognize and remember that one. They shouldn't have included the droids in the prequels, but they wanted them for the audience to make the connection. That way, the whole Star Wars saga is actually "The life and times of R2-D2 and C-3PO".
@@cl8733 but again hes an old man, he was a general, he was on many adventures. He just doesnt remember because droids arent his thing. It would be like Joe Biden not remembering the intern who worked in his staff back in 2006.
because he never DID own R2 - R2 was just an astromech on the Queen's ship until gifted to Anakin. His droid "R4" was a part of his jedi fighter, but was never a "friend" as R2 is portrayed. Seems Anakin did likewise with Threepio because he became Padme's goto protocol droid. Padme appreciated Threepio much more than her future daughter will.....
@@andrewmurray1550 Again, still doesn't quite make sense. Why wouldn't he say "I know him, even though he technically was your father's." It's a plothole we have to accept.
In “A New Hope”, C-3PO had a silver leg.
I always thought that Vader found this out via the force, somehow.
Regarding 3PO, you forgot to mention that he had a silver leg below the knee on his right side in the beginning of ANH
Grievous been vaping too much
On Lobot
There is a different story told as well
The other story says he was a criminal that was caught cheating on Besbin and was giving a choice of life working in the Tibanna mines or becoming the cyborg we know in the movies
I have a question that confuses me.
When i went on holiday to Turkey in 2007, i was amazed by how many of these Turkish people, many of who lived in villages & had never been to England, spoke English. I'm English & I cant lie, sometimes I struggle with the lingo.
So basically, what I'm asking, is how, a long time ago ina galaxy far, far away, how did so many people, creatures, & even robots know how to speak English? It really is so impressive with peoples lingual abilities.
Well before disney bought star wars Luke was unknowingly involved in the mission to get the plans for the second death star.
RIP Manny Both-Hans.
Why were the Medium transports at the Battle of Endor when they seemed to just sit there. The answer is more meta than cannon. it's because in the Star Wars universe we typically don't see small scale anti aircraft fire. Compare that to BSG where we see every .50 cal in a dizzying display. In the Star Wars universe we only see large caliber fire when we are a mile away from a large ship. So the medium transports were there for anti aircraft cover you just can't see it. Similar role of destroyers around carriers in the Pacific Theater.
If anyone had done research on how Star Wars was created and written by Lucas the characters and thier backgrounds were in constant flux. Basically when Star Wars the first movie was made Luke Skywalker was ineed Anakin Skywalker's son but Lucas had not made him Dath Vader's son. This choice was decided on when Lucas was working on the script to Empire after the rewrite when the writer he hired to do the script passed away. Lucas was an organic idea man and creator as his story was always in flux till it was filmed.
I didn't ask myself since when Vader has a servant. I would rather ask how did I come to it. But actually it was for me a natural thing for a Lord of the Sith to have a servant.
But the most important question should be, why Owen Las never thought to chance Lukes Suriname, being so worried about Obi-Was presence. The surname of the boy is a much glaring mistake.
Nobody knew Anakin survived, and was Darth Vader, so there was no need to hide him more then that.
He was just a Skywalker among other Skywalker...
Anwer: When Luke Skywalker was created, nobody knew his father Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Including the creators. Mystery solved. It later became a minor plothole. I think we can deal with it and don't have to come up with silly excuses.
Rogue Two:
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Lando’s smuggler friend gets killed and ends up running his city.
His droid lover gets killed and ends up running his space ship.
There seems to be a pattern here. Where will Jannah end up?
Skywalker could be a common name. Maybe it's like Smith, or Jones. A traditional name of descendents of space pilots. Maybe there are a dozen other Skywalkers on Tattooine of similar age, and Vader did not know that his son was named Luke. Leia, on the other hand, being raised by Senators and not just a couple of farmers, needed extra protection from being found. Luke was just a farmboy, and would not have drawn attention. As far as we know, Owen and Beru may have been Obi-wan's family who Anakin knew little about. Luke could have been just one of a dozen farmboys of similar age named Skywalker on Tattooine, and Anakin had no way of knowing that his son was named Luke. Only when Luke joined the Rebel Alliance and was shown to be strong in the force would he have stood out.
One more thing: a few of the newer movies are very good. But I consider only the six movies made by Lucas himself to be canon.
Where did Vader's suit come from? Palpy finds well done Ani on Mustafar, loads him up on the shuttle, and B lines it back to Coruscant.
There, medical droids perform emergency surgery on Anikan. Suddenly there's perfect prosthetics and a suit that is basically a wearable life support system.
The one absurdity that ruined my Star Wars fandom is Obi Wan lying to Luke about his father. They can spin it any way they want, his explanation to Luke (that he was speaking metaphorically when he said Luke's father was dead) doesn't hold water. Who would do that?? If your dad was in prison and your uncle told you he was dead, you wouldn't buy it if he explained "What I meant was the man that I knew as your father died" you would be furious. The fact is, Lucas decided on the fly that Vader was Luke's father to give Empire a dramatic plot twist.
you got out early, then. there are a lot of things making less sense. I think it even makes some sense, not letting Luke know his father is alive, because that would lead to Luke searching for his father before having any training. So even if it is a kind of contradiction and I agree they hadn't set up Anakin as Darth Vader and not even Darth Vader as the Uber-villain second only to the Emperor at that time. But even in hindsight I actually would not change this. It makes sense to lie to Luke at that point in time.
Luke going around as "Luke Skywalker" is no better than Kenobi going around as "Ben Kenobi" rather than "Obi-wan". I mean Luke figured it out. Why wouldn't the Empire?
And come to think of it the two droids they were chasing in ANH, Vader didn't say to his troops "Those droids you're looking fore.....the Protocol one I built in my bedroom when I was a kid, and the astromech was owned by my wife when she ruled Naboo as Queen".
The Emperor tells Vader that he was the offspring of Anakin Skywalker. Pretty sure that trumps the Boba story written later.
At that point in time, Vader already knew. He literally said "Skywalker is there" when he ordered the attack on Hoth. It also literally says in the opening crawl: "The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes..."