Fairchild C-119G Flying Boxcar N8093 3350 engine start
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- Опубликовано: 24 окт 2008
- The Hagerstown Aviation Museum's 1953 C-119 Flying Boxcar 3350 engine start and run test in Greybull, WY October, 2008. This was the first time the 3350 engine had run in many years and in preparation for the ferry flight home to Hagerstown Maryland where it was built by Fairchild Aircraft. This C-119 appeared in the movie "Always". You can visit this C-119 at the Hagerstown Aviation Museum. More info at: www.HagerstownAviationMuseum.org
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My dad flew the "dollar nineteen". He always said it was a loose collection of parts all headed in the same general direction!
One of the most beautiful sounds every created by mankind!!
That's the rolls Royce merlin 😉
@@richardpaul2241 Um well no. It's a Wright R-3350 Duplex-Cyclone. Merlin engines would never have been adapted for the C-119.
@@danahan01 was a sort of joke 😉
@@richardpaul2241 Okie Dokie!!
@@richardpaul2241 Although I have seen them in Alaska back in the 1980's with a jet engine on top to provide extra thrust when taking off loaded from a beach on Bristol Bay.....
Beautiful! What an adrenaline rush to see and hear those massive engines and props starting and then running at speed. Can't get over how smooth they are with all those reciprocating pistons.
During 1952 thru 1956 we had 4360 engines on our c.119S WE ONLY LOST ABOUT 4 ENGINES DUE TO FAILURE IN THOSE YEARS WE WERE STATIONED IN FRANCE AND GERMANY AND WE HAULED FREIGHT ALL OVER EUROPE AND SEEN A LOT OF THE WORLD THEY WERE A GREAT AIRPLANE WE WERE THE 465 troop carrier group consisting the 780th 781st and 782nd sqds.
We live in a neutered day and age!! We love this old time stuff because we know all dragons should smoke and shoot flames when they roar!!
Heard that sound and saw start up many times when a kid on Mitchell Field LI NY. C124's too. Big MATs base.
very smooth...very powerful. What a monster belching fire and smoke with a sound of thunder. What a machine!
Thank God for older cameras.. modern digital cameras ruin the propellers.
My goodness where I grew up there was a air base near my home and boxcars flew over
all the time. Can't believe they are gone forever. Progress sucks.
I was 1st Sgt of the 71st troop squadron for 13 years 1955-1968. We were flying C-119's out of Bakalar AFB Indiana. We were activated in 1968 as the 71st Air Commando Sq and moved to Lockebourne to be converted to gunships and redesignated the 71st Special Operations Sq the 71st was the only Air Reserves to serve in Vietnam. With 7 kids at school age or younger I had to take a hardship discharge. As a Korean War infantry veteran the hardest thing I have ever done was let my squadron go to war without me.
I enlisted in 1968 and when being a scope dope got old I cross-trained into Ground Radio. I stuck with that until 1995.
I remember once on one of our summer camps we flew down to Fort Campbell to drop troops for their training mission. After we loaded back up and were getting ready to fly back to Bakalar AFB, Col Pound came aboard and came over to me and said "Hey First, you want to drive home",(he always called me First), up to that time the only thing I ever flew was a kite. So I said if you think I can OK. He said when we get to altitude he would call me up to the cockpit. He did and set me in the pilots seat, he said "when your ready just push the button on the wheel labeled Auto-pilot and shes all yours, we are flying a corridor mission just follow the guy ahead". Boy I hand flew that big bird all the way back to Bakalar. When I got out of that seat so he could land the plane, my arms felt like they weighed 50 lbs apiece
I flew with the 71st as a gunner (RegAF); sadly those guys deros'd in June 69. I stayed for the remainder of 69. Best bunch of men I ever met. All of the Reserve guys on our crew have passed; only three of us left from the 8 man crew. I was on Maj Dick Morgan's crew. Flew with Don Brogan and Squire Riley.
@@roberttate5138 Major Morgan let me take the controls for about 15 mins as we were RTB to Phan Rang after a mission. Definitely felt like a truck. She was a truly great airplane, that never got the respect she deserved. Out of 52 converted to gunships, we only lost 6. She always brought us home; with only a few men lost in five years of operations.
I was in the 72nd 1967-1975. After the ALL the C-119s of the 71st & 72nd were taken for SEA along w\all crews we were left at Grissom AFB, IN. We flew 3 different aircraft before I left.
And it's in the colours of the Royal Canadian Air Force too.
I did three rides in 1969.The pilots used the shotgun start,the smoke billowed more than is this video,the cartridge start made the plane shake and tremble.This was at Ft.Benning in 1969.
Those R-4360 Wasp Major engines are a hell of a lot of machinery!
the ones with the P&W 4360 were the mechanics nightmare... 28 cylinders which could foul all 56 spark plugs if started wrong... My dad flew $19's out of Andrews AFB as a reserve pilot in the early 60's....
Lovely sound.....
My Uncle worked on these----all the time. He said the first thing they did was to check and make sure that both engines had a puddle of oil under them. I was puzzled about his remark, then he added, "That at least proved that the engines had oil in them". The engines were powerful but oil leaks were common in radial engines.
Главный герой фильма - Полёт Феникса! А звук лопастей один в один, что в фильме что в реале! 👌
As the son of an aircraft engine mechanic it sound sweet and ready to roll to me!
My father was a flight engineer on the C-119
I didn't know they had flight engineers. I thought the third seat was for the radio operator.
I remember a whole lot of c119s abandoned at r.c.a.f. Saskatoon in the sixties. Along with Harvard's and beach 18s.
Always liked the looks of this plane.
Same here
Favorite plane of all time...
Made one skydive out of a C-119; was over Hondo Texas (took off from Kelly AFB). They had taken the "Clam Shell" doors off, so there was quite a nice view as we climbed to altitude. Most of us "left", via the aft fuselage area, at around 8,500', although there were a couple of guys that were lucky, and they "got out" at around 15,000'. Was memorable and had a nice 8x10 glossey of that event to remember it all by. (around 1968, as I recall).
Un mot: MAGNIFIQUE! Merci pour le partage.
Beautiful, I love it when these old birds clear their throats. Real airplanes are made with round engines
That's right.....because the ones with square engines are imaginary.😏
my Dad used to work on them at March airforce base,, he was a hydraulic mechanic for the most part. sometimes he would fly with them to Alaska and back. He loved to see them at airshows. if we saw one in the distance we would just go right to it forget the other planes for a while lol.
MY two favorite things; Fans and Engines = Heaven
Waar is de tijd, als kind gingen we elk jaar naar de luchtshow op Melsbroek. deze Flying Boxcar had de parachutisten mee. Altijd waren er een paar die niet meer konden opstijgen. Nooit geweten dat er een naar beneden viel. Alhoewel genaamd :" De vliegende doodskisten".
This Airplane along with the DC-3 is still very desired in remote rough locations to get supplies into. Canada and Alaska still have many working ….
Conversion to Gas Turbines is expensive but really worth it….
Looking at the paint job, it's ex RCAF Transport Command
This is a very good video! Slower shutter speed so the prop looks like its turning. Great sound. And a run-up! Saved!!
Worked many hrs in NhaTrang Vietnam May 1969 to May 1970 ! It was awesome and the Plane I Loved ! Should see the fire 🔥 power and the the mini guns at work ! Then they added two 20mm guns and better electronics ! It was a Great Acft ! 🙏🏼♥️🇺🇸👍🏼✌🏼😊
I recall that sight, many times at CJATC, Rivers, MB. in 1961.
What a magnificent beast! One of the best videos I've seen
No fuel injection, PRT's with Bendix pressure carburetors, if I recall correctly...
wow a beautiful engine sound!
Favorite plane to jump from, 2 rear clamshell rear doors......1961 Army Paratrooper, 101, ft. Campbell.
My Dad was in the 101st about then.
An old Hawkins & Powers plane from the glory days of fire fighting.
160,000 nuts and bolts flying in close formation
The last plane my father flew in the USAF, before he was transferred to a desk in Washington DC.
@19elgato46 hello.. yes, 'flying coffin' was a moniker for that aircraft, in particular due to it's poor single-engine performance. In fact, most people who know will tell you that the 2nd engine is installed just to get the crew to the scene of the accident. Sadly, my brother was killed due to C-119 accident in 1966. Many great crews flew the plane however, and like all aircraft, this one has probably served our country well at times so I harbor no malice toward her or any other airplane.
He can even fly with one engine. I was in it!
Nice, paint scheme is vintage RCAF. ;) My dad worked on these birds in Rivers Manitoba, late 1950's.
Thanks for posting this. I did jump school at Benning out of these. 1962. Don't know which model though.
Excellent film footage and sound.
Great video and lovely sound, TXS
thank you for the awesome reference :D
Flight of the Phoenix, such a great movie. Of course, I am referring to the 1965 version starring James Stewart.
No I forbid you
Jimmy Stewart flew a C-82 Packet in the original Flight of the Phoenix:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_C-82_Packet
This is an ex- Canadian air force C-119, I thought they would all be beer cans by now
I love how you hear the prop over the 3000 hp engine....he probably consumed about 3 quarts of oil and 5 gallons of fuel for that one minuet idle.
FLIGHT OF THE PHEONIX
Nice! Someone has great faith in the wheel chocks... ;^}
gotta love how everybody who saw flight of the phoenix knows how to fly the c-119 now..
1954 Ashiya Air Base Japan. Flew Ashiya to Osan Air Base Korea. Carrying mail, troops an cargo
This exact plane was in the movie "Always"
CZrv4 No that’s a A 26
great sound, nice airplane
BOA TARDE a todos!!! Aqui no Brasil..essa aeronave foi batizada de C 91.da FAB..utilizada pra transporte de paraquedistas ///
situada nos Campos dos Afonsos Rio de Janeiro/RJ...isso até meados dos anos de 1960..0k.E VIVA A gloriosa Força aérea brasileira. 🇧🇷
"Alright Mr Dorf, Start pulling!"
“Flight of the Phoenix” vibes.
@Dokker62 I stand (sit) corrected. Thanks for broadening my aviation knowledge. It was easy to verify your corrections with just a little bit of web surfing. (which I should have done before opening my mouth).
@N34RT Apart from that wikipedia is wrong in several points per se there are mentioned at least 795 Wright-powered (Y)C-119F's, G's and R4Q-2's there, incl. 142 coversions (See Wikipedia...).
Did these not have the Coffman engine starter or was that the 04 flight of the Phoenix thing?
Nope. The Wasp Major is too big for Coffman starters...unless the Coffman Company made a 2gauge version (literally a cannon caliber) of their starter. The movie was bullshit
The Jimmy Stewart version of the movie used a C-82, which is similar to the C-119 and it probably did use the Coffman starter. If General Stewart was still alive perhaps we could ask him.
Actually, we almost only hear the prop blade sound, the real engine sounds is more likely to be heard from behind, where the exhaust pipes dump gases
majestic
If it wasn't leaking oil or burning it you were out of it!
They have been updated to Elec start right? or did we just miss the shotgun blast :P that was the best part of listening to Boxcars...that BOOM whine..putt putt putt hehe
Listen to that purr...
I wouldn’t have known about this plane unless I had read a book called like (blank) under fire
That's only if you're in the desert with people sitting on the wings.
These engines aren't using cartridges... they're spun with a conventional electric starter.
Didn't they have a shot start?
O ápice dos motores radiais!
15 indian wings, belgium and para cdo batalion for ever together. Love england. Tanks
C’mon bud.
C’mon....
YESSSSSSS
Flew on these in the air reserve. They would go to the end of the runway and slowly lift off. An old
I flew them at Grissom.
sounds like a roller coaster being rusty
C'était l'aristocratie de l'aviation et le cauchemar des mécaniciens ces moteurs, rien à voir avec les chaudières volantes actuelles.
pratt & Whitney 4360's... oh so nice.. mechanic's nighmare i heard
C-119G had Wright R3350's
Flight of the Phoenix
@N34RT You're welcome. Didn't thought about you to be a backseat driver. :)
I guess you haven't seen Flight of the Phoenix (2004)
niiiiicee
Good good the amaroce
Hello 2018
Very hard to start!
*P&W 4360's, not many of those flying anymore.*
+Escape for Mankind *VERY* true...
At one point they were fairly common, being installed on C-119's C-97's, KC-97's, the Goodyear-built variant of the Corsair fighter (the F2G) The B-36 had sis of them, as did the Hughes H-4 (the Spruce Goose"). 28 cylinders, and if you screwed the pooch on startup, all 56 spark plugs had to be swapped out before you could go anywhere.
That must've sucked. I still wish more post-warbirds used it.
*Actually today's engine builders have steadily upgraded the old Radials*
*Let me give you an example. The original B-29's flew with Wright Cyclone 3350's producing 2200hp*
*The recently restored B-29 Doc has been fitted with Hybrid 3350's producing 3500hp. That's somewhat impressive for those engine builder / mechanics to do*
Wow I never new this. Thanks for sharing! :)
@N34RT Incorrect......I can show you one right now with 3350's on it.......
Yeah, I've seen it. I see now you were being humorous... sorry! ;)
The C-119 was never fitted with the R-3350, only the R-4360. (See Wikipedia)
N34RT w
I was a crew chief on a C-119 for 3 1/2 year and loved it. We had 4360 engines and I see some dispute on this. I had heard there were 3350 also. Even though I went in during the Korean War we spent our time at Fairchild in the states. Flew all over.
Everyone of our 52 gunships had R3350's.
F model and up had 3350's
I had 1800+ hrs in the 119G and not more than 100 hrs in the PW. THis was a good ai/c
sounds like a bag of shit when it first fires, but once all them slugs are going, it's music.
Yeah, take the sand out
what, no coffman? shame!!
The movie was bullshit. The Wasp Major is too big for those puny 12guage Coffman Starters.
APU is the only way to fire it up
Fun fact: this you this aircraft would be used in bfdi but never made it in it's just a fun fact don't