Does PSI matter for winching
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
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When it started sliding the first time it ever broke loose you need to start over
Anchor mode is cool!
All you proved is that the winch pulls less as the battery gets lower. lol.. The ground is too random to get any accurate results anyway.
The traction should be relatively the same, because the weight of the truck doesn't change.
So you're adding more surface area touching the ground and each square inch will have slightly less pressure: but the net friction will still be the same. Airing down doesn't give you more traction.
Interesting test. I was expecting something more dramatically different with the different air pressures. Thanks for posting this.
Shocked the heck outta me! I thought sure airing down was gonna make a big difference.
Enjoyed the experiment . I’m inclined to think that if you had placed the tires on a new patch of ground with each psi change, you would have likely had different results as tearing the ground the first time takes more pulling force (or less)
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That had been my thought too. Not sure it would have made a great difference, but it would seem more fair.
That's a really good question.I would have no idea
Great video. Keep teaching us all.
airing down does make a difference but it is very dependent on the surface your winching from. hard solid ground you get more but some ground you get more pull if the tire can get cut down into the ground
its always kind of crazy to think about the amount of power losses just a few wraps on the winch drum makes you only ever get the true rated power down on the final wraps its why I run a 12k on my tj
Do this again and measure from the first Breakaway of the ground
Never even thought about it
Depends on the situation and the surface you are winching on
Anchor mode is pretty cool,never heard of it.
Love the Mickey Thompson's!
They definitely hook up
Good one, interesting. A brake lock thing kinda answered the question I had watching 40 vids in a row yesterday: who holding brakes while winching)))
I think if you winch yourself out lowering tire pressure helps you more since grip is better when you help yourself with accelerator a bit.
love the video and info! i wish i lived near you i wouldnt worry about getting stuck free recovery !
still waiting for the review on the 8274
I guess higher psi is better because the wheel will dig in. Lets see if im right.
Good test!
After the first Breakaway you were just sliding on the rocks
Good information.
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30 seconds in, I could see dropping 5-8 lbs helping some and anymore is just losing beads.. will update later XD
Edited part, it's pretty consistent tho.
I thought about building something close to your blocks years ago, I didn't like the hydraulic stands of conventional wreckers. Yours are probably better than the ones that I was gonna try to build on my adventures XD
Without seeing the video...yes.
It seems like you could get different results on different terrains but I'm not sure which way it would go.
Maybe, read the room?
Depending on?
Love the anchor mode, does your buddy have that also?
I'm about the weight difference between the two trucks, who is heavier? Can't wait to see the next video.
We are definitely heavier with steel fenders
And a fully loaded deck system
Yes he does but he was unaware of it
He is also a manual so he normally shuts it off and leaves it in gear
Now he can leave it running
Interesting test. Different tires have different results. Even tire wear with rounded edges should have less pulling power.
Yep, we wanted Steve to join us on this test because his jeep is set up exactly like the majority of jeeps in the area
4” rough country lift 37” all terrains
So his vehicle would show what most jeeps would do
While ours is heavily modified
Do you have a good load cell you recommend?
It would make more sense to do this test on freshly swept concrete. I still think the results will be roughly the same though.
Lmao nobody gets stuck on concrete
@@loosenut1969 No one gets stuck on flat grass either, yet they did their test on it... It's for the sake of consistent testing results. Nobody uses a hydraulic press to climb a mountain. but they still test rope with hydraulic machines, to find their breaking strength.
@@calholli OK I can see your side and your points
Nice test. I wonder how much effect tire type would have had on it? Meaning... if you put his tires on your Jeep, how much less (I'm guessing less.. your tires are more aggressive so I would think they would bite/hold better) you would have been able to pull.
Tires play a huge impact on it, far more then the psi alone
Won’t the tire tread resist differently on those two tires.
Yes that’s why we had him come over and test with us
So we could compare 2 different type of
Tires
I'm thinking the test is flawed after the first pull on both vechiles, the first pull got to have unbroken ground under it, both second pulls had broken ground under the footprint of the tire, should have reset both vechiles on a new track for each pull, the broken ground acted like a skid at that point
Why does the line look like it's going up at 5:05?
before watching the video im going to guess: yes if you dont have beadlocks, still yes to some extent if you do, minimum 5psi?
Awesome
So your warn winch cordless controller doesn't use batteries that's really good.
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Interesting
So will a heavier vehicle with a winch be able to pull more, or does vehicle weight even matter?
That is my thinking as well. You saw better / higher numbers with Matt’s Jeep since it is heavier due to his modifications. IMO the black Jeep or any other Jeep will have better numbers if you can anchor the vehicle to a tree or other vehicle or use scotch blocks like Matt demonstrated
Yes weight will allow a heavier pull
On average you expect to see 66% of the vehicles weight as anchorability
For example his black gladiator should be roughly 5,100lbs so if you use the average of 66% it’s 3,300
He was close to that
Heavier the vehicle also means easier to sink in the swamps so you have to balance it out
Also the higher the winch is from the ground adds down pressure to make you weigh more during a winch
So taller vehicles also can winch harder
@@OffRoadRecoveryLLCWell said. That’s why you’re the professional. Keep the content coming!!! Love it
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Are the jeep equal in weight
No
The question is how much is each gladiator weight? Because if both of them don’t wait the same it don’t matter what when you have the resistance is going to be different. 🤔🤔🤔
We weigh a bit more obviously
And winched harder
But the difference between 40 and 8 psi wasn’t much
That brake lock thing... is that a factory doo-dad??
If you buy a tazer programmer that is one of the features along with an adjustable idler. I used mine to do that as well as take of all the seatbelt dings, the door open while idling in park ding. I can run my fog lights with my brights, I also set it so both seats heat when the vehicle is started. There is literally about 100 things you can do with it. For a couple hundred bucks I love it.
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A link is in the description
Is that a tool only for jeeps or could it work with a Toyota?
@@willyphister494 they make them for most makes and models
I just can’t confirm which options are available on other platforms
But I do know they just close the abs spool valves to lock the brakes so I would assume it would be available for anything with abs
I bought a tazer recently and i can say for the jk platform it does not work right now
Best winch brand next?
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Any suggestions on how to test them
@@OffRoadRecoveryLLC pull speed👍
I would think PSI has nothing to do with winch power.
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Unfortunately it won't
C'mon people in ARKANSAS, go out and bury your truck in the mud or somewhere so he can come pull it out for FREE ! If He would have had free towing in Florida I definitely would have gone out and buried my 93 4Runner and. see how the Pirelli 31 10.50-15 Scorpion MTR tires do? Give him a CHALLENGE please! I think about 3/4 of the recoveries on the other Matts channel in UTAH are people getting stuck on purpose to be on his RUclips channel. Can't you help Matt #2 and his channel to keep him busy PLEASE ?? FREE go get stuck now!! Make sure you take somebody with you and have two working phones. PS I don't even think he expects a tip! A" great job" will suffice.
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Really? How in the hell can you do a comparison with two completely different Jeeps, with completely different tires, suspensions, and vehicle weights? You can't. This proves NOTHING, except that neither of you understands how accurate testing is done.
They tested the same test on two different vehicles. The little competition was for fun. It also showed that the results of the test can vary with different vehicles and different tires. The test was whether or not airing down provided more winch resistance. Did we not watch the same video?
We used two different vehicles and compared both
Steve’s jeep is relatively “normal” 37” all terrains
4.5” lift
He gained a higher average
We are a heavily modified Jeep
Obviously we winched higher on every pull
But we lost a little power while he gained
But all in all 500lb difference in loss or gain was minimal in our opinion
They compared different tire pressures with 2 different jeeps.... they wasn't comparing the jeeps.... did you not watch the video ?? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@OffRoadRecoveryLLC a lot of it has to do with the difference in tires too your tires needed more weight on them for the lugs to grab it ends up going to the age old argument of skinny tires vs wide tires