Review & demo - Yasutomo Chinese watercolor set & Chinese ink
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- ✒ Materials used in this video
Yasutomo Authentic Chinese Watercolors 12 Set
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I bought my set from a local Canadian chain, Deserres.
Yasutomo Chinese Ink
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I bought my set from a local Canadian chain, Deserres.
For the swatches:
Royal and Langnickel Zen brush, round, size 8
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I bought mine at a local chain, Deserres.
Jack Richeson Rice Paper Pad 12" X 18"
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I bought mine at a local chain, Deserres.
Pentalic Field Book :
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For the demo:
Jackson's Raven synthetic mops
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I use a 10/0.
Strathmore Softcover Mixed Media Journal
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Painter's tape :
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Music :
"Ambiment" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Interestingly, for many of my inktober pieces I've been mixing ink into my watercolor washes for certain effects and duller colors, so it's interesting that this brand recommends that technique! I personally really like how the ink and paints play together (I've been using Daniel smith paints and dr PH martin's ink), and that's how I managed to get a lot of my dramatic lighting effects!
Woah, using them on the rice paper on both sides is such a cool technique!!!
These paints remind me vaguely of a set of Marie's watercolors I got last year, which I think you got the same brand but in their gouache! I've only used them once and had no strong opinion of them. They were fine, but neither excellent nor terrible. I was thinning about digging them up for a review after inktober since a set of 24 cost me like....$10, and that's an incredible deal of they're nice enough at such a low price.
Hi Eve, you really put in your homework on these. I would love to see you do something larger on really thin paper the traditional way. I used Chinese traditional paints years ago when I lived in a place where they were the only thing available. They were good to use but not at all like our watercolours. There is a fabulous book on Chinese painting called something like The Mustard Seed Manual of Painting. You can get it from Kremer. It shows you the paint strokes for traditional Chinese painting, and I will get it soon. That was a lot of ink you got! I have ink stick and stone which is less smelly and allows you all the gradations of grey. Also I am clumsy and would be continually paranoid about a bottle that big and whether I had closed it properly!
I have an immaculate small Gansai set that is really lovely, but your Yasutomo paints look as though I would play with them far more easily, the Gansai were a 'thats so cute I must have it' purchase! So many thanks for an interesting and good introduction to them, they may well be my next art 'fix'. I think mostly they are used to create puddles of paint, but then used exactly as you describe, on both sides of the paper, which can go alarmingly crinkly but gets smoothed out when mounted onto the right kind of thick backing paper. I grew up with paintings done this way all around me, only two or three still there, sadly. They are really big. The Chinese make a little paint go a very long way.
I really loved this video. Hope you have fun with these unusual paints.
Great review and I love your little sketch! . I bought a set from Deserres for $10 as well, and decided to test lightfastness. I’ve had a test sheet hanging in a window since Jan 20/16. I’m really impressed with the results - only 3 have ad difficulty. The vermillion is now a blotchy orange, so I think one of the underlying pigments has faded, with the other being stable. The scarlet has faded a bit in masstone, and the tint is gone. The cinnabar has changed to a warm hue, so again, I think an underlying pigment has faded. The others have held up very well - impressive for 2 years in a window. So I think they’re absolutely fine for sketchbook work, and an incredible value.
Thanks for sharing this great info! Super helpful to know.
I stumbled across this set on clearance at Hob Lob & bought to try. The colors were so pure & vibrant I immediately fell in love. Now that I’ve seen your video I plan to get rice paper and black sumi ink. Thank you!
I'm so glad you like the set! The colors are very nice indeed :)
Hi Eve! Yes I have these and have done a couple of small paintings with them. I really love how inexpensive they are, and I can work with it straight from the tube, and not worry about wasting too much, as they are so super affordable. (this is the primary reason I use pans) I am not using D.S. from the tube, lol. I really liked my experience with them, and having no Suni ink, I will try with some of my regular Noodler's pen ink. My Platinum Carbon will be here soon from Japan, I hope. Thanks for the beautiful landscape demo, inspiring for me dear!
the cinnabar and vermillion and all copper color（light blue and green）are genuine pigment. And the carmine and red and magenta color should be modern pigment that replace the original fugitve lake pigment. And I am not sure if the indigo is the genuine one. The yellow cambodge is modern sythetic pigment, too I think.
Oooooo, thank you!!
I doubt anyone uses real gamboge anymore, not with our access to modern synthetic pigments. The copper colors are my favorite, though ALL the colors in this set are really nice and they make a lovely palette together!
Your lesson on Chinese painting was fascinating, Eve. I had never heard the comparison before. And I loved your painting.
Hi Brenda! Thank you! :)
I'm a novice when it comes to Chinese painting and paints, but that's nothing a bit of research won't fix ;) All methods of painting are fascinating!
There are high end mineral and gem stone pigments comes in a dozen of shades by grinding and seperating them into different particle sizes in China and Japan. They are meant to be milled and applied fresh with hide glue so that the color onece dry on the support medium would not be lift. Check out 岩彩, 岩繪具, 唐卡, 中國壁畫，日本畫, 工筆畫 and so on to discover more.
I will, thank you! :)
One of the place where I order pigments from also has Iwa-Enogu glass and mineral pigments. They are really fascinating to look at and they come in various particle sizes. And gorgeous colors, too ♥
They look really nice - perhaps the best ones I've seen in reviews yet. I haven't an experience with watercolours, but did some calligraphy sessions as a kid and we mostly used the ink stone. They do smell funny, though I think I didn't mind much, and grinding it in the heavy ink tray was fun, too! :)
Hey Eve just wanted to say I thought this was a great tutorial, I just bought a set for something new to spark my creativity when bored and came across your video. (Deserres too I'm in Canada) I saw the lightfastness test info in the comments and am super grateful to that person for commenting. I went to their website to ask for more information, the website says they are plant matter and earth based as well as mineral based but they state for high lightfastness which I believe considering the commenter had them in a sunny window 2 years. The binders are glue animal glue based so not veggan friendly. They use that binder so it sticks heavy to the rice paper for wetting and mounting. Also so the colors don't run like western watercolor. I love all the different eastern brands I've tried so far so I really wanted to try them besides the Marie's I got confused about which ones were student grade and which were the Chinese professional grade as they have both, I decided not to waste money right now and go with these instead. I was very impressed seeing that for 8$ paints. I have some Chinese painting books in my stash that I'm going to try the strokes. I left out buying the sume ink for now, (although I want the gold and silver) I'm going to try it with extra black India ink I have here and some of the liquitex professional inks. We'll see but it will be fun to try them out!
Never heard of this brand before, thanks for reviewing. ありがとうございます✨
Thank you and you're welcome :)
I see your pretty calligraphy, Eve!
Good eye Tiffany! I thought, I might as well use these skills to help cement them in :)
Hi Eve, I have not tried Chinese paint. But, I do have a set of Royal and Langnickel watercolor paints that are made in China. I have not used them since I set them up in one of my palettes. The first thing I noticed was the odor. These paints have a horrible odor that reminds me of the house paint that my parents used to use to paint their house. Maybe that is the same odor you are experiencing with these Yasutomo paints.
Every now and then I will buy inexpensive watercolor sets to try them out so that I know which sets that I can recommend to parents of younger children. So far, the best I've found are from Prang.
Really terrific work here! Really surprised how thin these were. Didn't expect that! Really interesting information, here! Well done! :)
Thanks Mark! Thin in what way? Some paints were more runny (especially if I hadn't mixed it before) but overall it's pretty consistent with the other tube paints I've tried :)
Watching it again, I think my eyes deceived me and it was actually the time lapse that made me think they filled the pans really quickly, as though they were quite runny. Just ignore the guy in the corner! ;)
Eve, another interesting video! I love your paintings! You have such a wonderful style : )
Hi Pat! Thank you! ♥
Great video Eve! 😁 Very interesting & helpful information about Chinese paints & rice paper. I definitely didn't know really anything...lol 😉 I love how you did the painting in the journal. Thanks for sharing. 🤗
I had a tube of Marie's master traditional Chinese color, manganese violet which is very pigmented that I don't consider invest another one from western watercolor. This line is better than normal yellow box set. The gelatin binder is mixavble with gum binder. I have been looking for a affordable granulating and fairly intense violet.
Your manganese violet sounds absolutely lovely. It definitely sounds like you don't need another one. :)
Great video! The amount of reds made me kinda disapointed (isn't my favorite color when I'm painting) but they work well, I thought about gansai while I was watching.
Also, never thought about using white from the tube, now that sound's so obvious! I keep a few amount of all my watercolors in a single palette to make things easy and my white looks like it has seen better days... thank you for the tip!
Thanks! :)
They work really well! And yes, there are a LOT of reds (5? on 12 colors??). It's a very useful color for mixes though, and since it comes in so many variations it's easier to get the result we want when mixing.
The best is a tube of white gouache, but if one is stuck with white watercolors, it's more efficient to keep it fresh :)
I've had these for over a year now and I like them and they obviously behave different than western watercolors, but you can work them thin so they're more wester-like.
Yes, I agree! They are really good and affordable! Glad to read that even a year on, they still deliver a good performance :) Thanks for the feedback!
Hi Eve, what is the binder in these, gum arabic or animal glue? Thanks
I don't think it says but since it's Chinese watercolor, probably animal glue.
Do you know what difference in ingredients might cause the difference in smell? Your painting is pretty!
Thank you! :)
I think it might be the different binder? I'm glad it's not awfully strong with these, I've had some awfully stinky paints and it's a lot less fun to use.
do they stink to high heaven (odor wise) like Marie's Chinese paints? How would you describe the smell? I'm looking for a lightfast Chinese watercolor brand that doesn't give off fumes, sinc eI get headaches easily. Thanks!
I don't have that set anymore and I don't remember if they smelled, I'm sorry! Is there a reason why it has to be a Chinese watercolor brand? Because you can find dupes through western-style paints (Daniel Smith, Holbein...)
Thanks anyway. Yes, I have Daniel Smith but Chinese watercolors are different, they have a binder type that makes them stick to rice paper much better during the mounting process.
do these wont work as normal watwrcolor? i HAVE to wet the back of the paper?
I don't think you have to do anything, you can try painting with these as you would any other paints and see where that takes you :)
Is it the same thing as Gamsai paints from Japan or are these two completely different from one another ?
(onciale ? :))
Nymphalia I think these are very like the gansai paints only in tubes. Really they are designed to be used in washes with the black ink giving the detail. Natural soft brushes used in an upright position in broad single strokes... it is an artform of its own.
I came to ask this lol
@@lindyashford7744 Gansai is not a lightfast medium
the "smell" is natural product.........we are just used to chemicals in western paint
Would you say that they are a little like gouache? And what paper would one use with them? One yellow ouch
They are more opaque, but not exactly like gouache either. I guess the best paper for them would be rice paper (and other Chinese papers), since they are meant for Chinese painting
Hi! I see you're very interested in japanese watercolor :) Do you interested with holbein?
Hi! Yes, I love Holbein!! Their paints are really good :)
Eve Bolt - Bolt's Vault are they chalky?? Some people said they're a bit chalky so Im worried
They aren't chalky at all, the colors are nice and vibrant. They have a wider range of colors mixed with white like compose green, lavender, lilac, shell pink, jaune brilliant, etc, but they also have a lot of single pigment, rich colors. (I'm mostly using tube paints and I have a few pans, I can't say for other types of Holbein watercolors). Depending on what you want in your paints, I'm confident you can find it in Holbein's range.
Eve Bolt - Bolt's Vault thank you very much for your reply! :) I'm happy that I bought the set
If I may ask, which set did you get? :D
So you just squirted the Chinese ink into the palette and it dried fine? Did it take longer to dry then the watercolor tubes?
Did you try anymore paintings on the rice paper?
Hi. Yasutomo is Chinese? I thought Japanese.
Ummmm...... your not worried about the lead levels in that paint?