VOICE TEACHER REACTS - JINJER - Perennial - Live at Wacken Open Air 2019
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2020
- In this voice teacher reacts video I go nuts over Jinjer doing Perennial Live from Wacken Open Air recorded in 2019!
Tatiana is amazing!
An absolutely beautiful sound and then all HE "double hockey sticks " breaks loose!
I love this!!
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Thanks so much and all good things to you!
Mike
I think you will love their "Judgement (& Punishment)" live one-take vocal from Tatiana video that they recently released.
It is a nice chance to really focus on her physical technique up close.
Agreed! It showcases her vocal range and ability like no other video.
I vote for this one too👍
He's back!!! Let him know!!!
This must be next. 👍
Not to mention, she is not singing in her native language, so it's even more impressive.
Yea most people dont realize that English isnt even her native tongue. Its crazy
I follow her on Instagram and was so surprised when I head her singing in Spanish and so well too.
Yea I can not pick up but I am pretty sure that she puts in here some other language that is not English I think it is kinda French but I am sure she implements some language that is not her native and not English also...
@marko zec it’s Ukrainian you can hear it in songs like zhelayu znachit poluchu
@@genderlesspotato1857 "zhelayu znachit poluchu" is in Russian. Neither "zhelayu" nor "poluchu" exist in Ukrainian. They are from Eastern Ukraine - mostly Russian speaking part. Justin Case.
Mike, you really need to see Tatiana do a one take solo from the new Judgement and Punishment One Take. No mixing, only her and the mic. Amazing!!!
I'll look at it thank you!
There’s several metal bands with women growling, but Tatiana’s voice is unique because of the quality of it.
(Not only compared to the women, but men too)
and stage presence
And she fine as hell too!
Not only that she's also unique because of their musical composition. Her voice is leagues above most metal or psudometal acts but her lyrics and the rest of the band makes her and Jinjer as a whole GREAT.
I mean she has a very similar growl to (and I think inspired by) lamb of God's frontman
Even more impressive is the fact this was the last song in their set.
It was a day set in Wacken so probably no longer than half hour
Jinjer , the whole band, not only Tati, is unique. You won’t fond tons of bands like them.
Feel free to share what you like, a good song don’t get old.
Your reactions are great because they are true. The sparkling in your eyes are priceless.
Thank you (-:
@@MikeGoodrich What hooked me was the bass, intially.
Tatiana is a very unique singer. There's tons of singers who can growl. Tons who have amazing cleans. But almost zero that can switch on a dime from one to the other and back. And the fact that she sounds so amazing live is just the cherry on top. And I would be curious just how low she can go. Some of her lowest can be found in "Pit of Consciousness" Live in Kiev.
Courtney LaPlante from Spiritbox, she can switch very well. Her screem and growl is better but she cant sing same high like Tatiana.
There are a handful. A precious few. Floor Jansen, Lizzy Hale, Alissa White-glus, Dave Drummain. (Spelling errors due to lack of coffee).
in general the second chrous from pisces features a section with really low-pitch note (e.g. Live in Mexico)
Yea most of them have 2 singers. 1 to do the growl and the other to sing.
When she is warming down her vocal cords after a show (atleast shows that I have attended the Meet&Greet) she is still switching between "clean voice" and a low "growl"... Kinda trippy.
Diana ankudinova is a young performer who shocks us with her pleasant voice and takes us into the abyss of events!!! Diana Ankudinova is unique and inimitable, goosebumps from her voice!=)))) Diana sings as if she lives in the song! The soul freezes or opens with Diana's voice.=))))))) I am a musician who has been with music for 40 years, and believe me, I have not heard such a tone in all these past years.
1000000%!!!😁🔥🔥🔥🎤🎤🎤🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶💖💖💖
Diana Ankudinova 😊👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💫🎉🙏
DIANA ANKUDINOVA!!!🔥🔥🔥
The fact that many women these days sing metal music and growl at points, But in my humble opinion, Nobody does it with the ease and perfection that Tatiana does.... I think she is a once in a lifetime kind of vocalist.
Tati is a trifecta......Voice Quality+Raw Talent+Gorgeous Looks I simply don't see her equal out there anywhere. Yes, I am smitten.:)
Her transitions (growl to clean and back) are insane and it's important to note this particular song is the last song in the set, and she still maintains the energy like it's the first song not many can pull that off
The fact that she can alternate from cleans to more harsh vocals so effortlessly will never cease to amaze me. Amazing control 🔥
No TATI is the Queen!! She is a highly educated school teacher and Poet and if you read her lyrics it is her poetry..
Tatiana is completely self taught.
Tati's clean vocals are powerfully haunting and ethereal.
My opinion is Tatiana is exceptional. She changed my whole view about screams and growls and allowed me to finally get into those singing styles which opened up so much metal and rock music to really enjoy and appreciate. We are very lucky to have her and the amazing musicians in Jinjer. Another female singer who has amazing range and talent is Courtney Laplante. I strongly suggest checking out her one take videos recently released on RUclips with her new band Spiritbox. Looking forward to your next metal reaction!
Yeah I support that recommendation.. Spiritbox with Courtney on vocals its amazing
same, never liked them from anyone until I heard her. And I'd heard both singers from Arch Enemy and also Otep (who inspired Tati to learn to growl, incidentally). Blessed Be is a great starting point for Spiritbox.
There are a lotta women that can do similar vocals but not as good or as aggressive as Tati , she’s just from another world
We are all completely blown away by Tati. There are few humans, male or female, who can growl like that, and none of those can sing the way she does. One of the five or six greatest vocalists alive today, male or female, IMHO. But you should also give more love to the band. They are far beyond most historical rock bands in sheer musicianship (and I'm your age, I saw many of the classic rock bands in their day.)
Mike I've been listening to metal most of my life. 100% Jinjer is a once in a lifetime kind of band. The sheer talent in this band is absolutely mind boggling. You wanna have your mind blown again, check out Devin Townsend's Kingdom on EMG T.V or Deadhead Live at Royal Albert Hall. If you're a Steve Vai fan I promise you've already heard his voice. Rock on old head! Welcome to the darkside \m/
Her stage presence is amazing. Her gestures, from grand to tiny, always doing something; remind me of the way Freddie Mercury preformed.
And not to be That Guy... but it’s pronounced with a V sound. Vah-Ken.. 😁👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much!! You're not "that guy" I really appreciate the correction! (-:
Mike Goodrich love your content man!! Keep it up. Hey, do the world a favor and remind them of Wendy O. Williams and the Plasmatics. Her two opening primal screams in “Put Your Love in Me” KILL... 👍🏻💙
Love seeing people (especially vocalists) discover Jinjer. Tatiana is just a ridiculous talent. They just dropped a live video of their song Teacher, Teacher which is amazing, so definitely check that out. For another band with a vocalist who does an amazing blend of cleans and screams, check out Spiritbox. I'd start with Rule of Nines.
She really is one of a lifetime singer, so original.
I can't speak for others but Tatiana is, indeed, unique as far as I'm concerned. Not only is she top notch in all her vocal styling (growls, screams, cleans, belts, reggae) she is unparalleled in her ability to switch quickly and fluidly between those styles. Add in a great stage presence and her abilities as a lyricist... she is the Queen. Also, to my ear, she has a much bigger range and greater clarity on her growls than most. Here's some trivia for you: she has no vocal training, smokes, drinks, and never warms up.
But most of all, like you mentioned, I just love her voice, in *all* its many incarnations. Never liked growls until I heard hers. Keep up the good work.
"she is unparalleled in her ability to switch quickly and fluidly between those styles"
Have you heard about Floor Jensen?
@@xGOKOPx I love Floor. Probably the most versatile singer alive. But comparing her and Tatiana is kinda apples to oranges, wouldn't you say? It is in my mind, at any rate. But you may have a point.
@@jayhegener3028 Apples to oranges? Maybe. But I'm not comparing them overall, I'm pointing out that Tatiana isn't "unparalleled in her ability to switch quickly and fluidly between those styles"
We're all blown away by Tatiana's voice, it's hard to get used to
Tatiana is a Queen of rock.
You must hear Anneke Von Gersbergen. Wish You Were Here live. She is a dutch legend , the godmother of dutch metal. She is the reason Floor of Nightwish got into rock music.
She’s a blessing for everyone to hear . She is just amazing
What she does is not all that unique, how well, how deep, along with her cleans is what sets her apart from the rest. Once you get over her vocals, you begin to realize how incredible the band is and you get even more blown away. Cheers on the reaction. I love the look on your face when Tatiana so smoothly went from that growl straight into her cleans. Priceless :)
Your comment contradicts itself. First you say what she does isn't unique but then you say what sets her apart. So, which one is it? Is she not unique or is she set apart?
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Let me paraphrase the comment: What she is doing is not unique, but how she does it and how well she does it is very, very rare indeed.
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet I was clear enough, "how well and how deep...is what sets her apart". Meaning she does it far better than any other female front.
Tatiana is pretty special. She's got the beauty and the beast all rolled into one. How she flicks in a split second between clean and dirty is freakish, especially live.
dont worry, even though we are jinjer fans and know what the band and Tati can do, we are still speechless every time lol. Who is gonna be the one (live) and Judgement and punishment one take vocals are 2 to check out next.
There are now a lot of women growlers but Tatiana may be the best. For her singing voice, she is my favorite and maybe best since Pat Benetar. She has a new one take in studio performance of "Judgement and Punishment" that is a different style and a must see. You looked like a kid on Christmas morning. Love it!
You are definitely one of the best vocal teacher or coach reactors I’ve watched. Thank you
It is like vocal Stockholm syndrome - we cherish tenderness so much more when it is juxtaposed against savagery. The combination Tatiana achieves is just intoxicating. But then Engel was always my favorite Rammstein song too, the feminine singing combined with deep vocals is just awesome. I never expected I'd find both halves in a woman, but Tatiana takes that dichotomy and cranks it up to 11.
While Tati isn't unique, she is extraordinarily exceptional. There are women who come close with the growls (Angela Gossow for example is arguably better in some ways, but not as good in others - more explosive, less flexible), and there are women who have better technical skills in clean vocals (Floor - though I'd still be more inclined to listen to Tati even if she was singing clean), and there are women who have a different angle on their art entirely even though their skills overlap (Otep, and IMO Courtney from Spiritbox and Lena from Infected Rain fit in this category). But even among the guys, Tatiana is one of the best growlers even if she can't get as low as the lowest beasts like Alex Terrible or Randy Blythe, still the amount of emotion she projects into her growls is second to none. And she flat out eviscerates 90% of male growlers on every level.
The vocal one-take video for Judgement & Punishment that they released last week is great too. Or if you want to see how brutal her growls can go, check out Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev (they'd upgraded their stage production, ready to make a big impact on the summer festival circuit this summer...ouch). Cheers!
Great comment. Yeah, Tatiana is something special. I don’t wanna say other women arent emotional in their music, but Tatiana really pours her soul into the music. For me, that is what makes her standout.
Jeffrey, YES on the Judgement & Punishment. But I would like to make a suggestion for that, do a double feature with the official video followed by the one take vocal performance.
@@dwarvensmith80 ...agree...that is my favorite official video from them...she is a multi threat talent...
@@dwarvensmith80 I've seen others do the official video and one take as a double-feature and it works quite well. Alternately, in the live at Melbourne video Tati is a bit low in the mix, while in the one-take she is high in the mix because she is the focus, so that would work well too. The official video is really well done, but seeing them on stage is always epic. Choices, choices. TBH, I'd watch a half hour long video with all 3 versions of the song and both the guitar and bass playthroughs haha.
@@j.f.fisher5318 The video for Perennial like that the one for Judgement & Punishment, very well done. I love the one take though, especially for those that say she cups the mic on her performances to get that sound. The one take, there is no doubt, none at all.
As for the playthroughs, it would be epic if they did a drum playthrough then did a mashup of the 4 of the videos together. You'd be able to see how each member goes through and reacts to the song.
You are correct to be blown away by Tati. Jinjer as a band is incredible and her vocals are so surprising that a lot miss the fact that all 4 are at the top of the charts for their abilities. There are many women who sing well, there are quite a few that growl well, there are several that sing and growl well, but Tati is the pinnacle of that group. She is by far the best at this feat. So stay amazed and enjoy in my opinion.
Well hey now! About time! Glad to see more Jinjer! Check out their songs "On the Top" + "Pit of Consciousness" -- the official live versions, in Kiev! Great representation of the band's talent + her vocal range!
Heart should still be appreciated...
Love your reactions.
Hy Mr Goodrich.You are officially the best reacting person.just love how enthusiastic you are, and I think your students do love you to pieces.I’m probably your age,72 and half, if I would have a teacher like you, ,,no that is impossible ,, maybe but just maybe I could be famous now. Thanks a million!!!
Similar to other commentors I highly recommend Jinjer "Judgement and Punishment" Tatiana one take vocal performance and Spiritbox "Rule of Nines" Courtney LaPlante one take vocal performance. The singers are in a studio and isolated on camera. Also, for a different direction on amazing female vocals, you are missing out on Brittney Slayes from Unleash the Archers. Their song "Awakening" - full band playthrough video is the usual starting point. After that "Tonight We Ride", "Abyss", and "Faster than Light".
I thoroughly enjoy your videos Mike! Hahah😊
Thank you for your thrilling and fascinating videos about Jinjer. They're so much fun to watch!
This is totally off topic, but what kills me about Tatiana, besides the otherworldly skills and the insanely strong stage presence, is her beautiful, heartwarming sense of humor, that constantly shines through, no matter how dark and fierce she goes on the surface. She seems to be such a special and unique human being. If you/anyone like Jinjer, I highly recommend watching interviews with the band. It will instantly make you love them even more. They're really deep, approachable, hard working and tremendously lovable people. Especially Tatiana, who 's on one side a creative force of nature with the power of at least 10 locomotives, but on the other side a 100% down-to-earth, funny, free-spirited girl next door, you just wish you had as your best friend. She's so inspirational. Also, I found the interviews very eye-opening, regarding where they're musically coming from. Truly fascinating band on every level.
That's so great, thanks for telling me that! Love to hear that they're nice peolple!
A total badass and an absolute sweetheart all in one.
Tatiana is a very unique singer. There's tons of singers who can growl. Tons who have amazing cleans. But almost zero that can switch on a dime from one to the other and back. And the fact that she sounds so amazing live is just the cherry on top. And I would be curious just how low she can go. Some of her lowest can be found in "Pit of Consciousness" Live in Kiev.
@@user-jo9vd6tt2q also in Home Back
mike, out of all of the reactions to jinjer and other metal artists, you have the most heartwarming reactions. your smile is enough to brighten anyone's day, keep being awesome!
I know you’re a vocal teacher, but dang...the band is amazing during the slow part. They create such a emotive atmosphere to support Tati!
I really love how you react man. Your music genre is awesome. Keep recording more kind of these reaction videos! Loves :)
Nice, glad you came back! Plenty more.
Love your opinions on Jinjer. You are correct, there's a bunch of bands like this that you've probably never heard of... but there's a reason why Tati and Jinjer are the most reacted to band on youtube currently... they are something special! They are not the first to do something like this, but they have a unique take on the style and they are all masters of their craft. Check out her latest one take recording of Judgement and Punishment for more on her amazing vocal abilities!
Totally agree, Tatiana's talent is exceptional. I'm 54 and never heard anything like this.
I've been listening to Maria Callas since I was 7, Nina Hagen at 17 and Sarah Vaughn in my 20's. All exceptional in their own field and Tatiana is exceptional in her own. Plus JINJER, as a band, are very versatile and talented. Also the lyrics written by Tatiana are very significant, profound and poetic
👍💖👍
Youre amazingly positive and very open to this genre. ❤
God damnit I love this band. And thoroughly enjoyed the review.
Yes dying to watch you do her judgement and punishment one take vocal. Shows her LOVE of reggae, and her range and can see her up close it's AWESOME
It’s always good to see your videos, really cool as always, greetings from Mexico🖤🙌🏼
I've been listening to metal for a very long time. Shes unique as hell
I only recently came across your channel and it's by far one of the best "voice coach reacts" channels out there! I love people who can see talent even in music they may not listen to very often and you can tell you genuinely love good music no matter the genre. Watching your videos really does put a smile on my face =) .
Yes, I agree. How do you not love this? It is so friggin awesome. So much stuff out there. Here we keep going. More!
Man your channel is amazing, and those heart and journey videos are awesome as you said.
Dont lose too much time on negative things, keep up with the good quality content.
I am 60 years old and I love this band and their lead singer Tatiana. I listen to at least 2 Jinjer songs a day.
New thing on my bucket list is to go see them in concert! That would be amazing in person!!!!!
Just subscribed not only because you're discovering my current favorite band Jinjer, but because you do classic greats like Journey and Heart. I intend to check those out.
Your expression is priceless. Made me happy, it`s gonna be a good day, thanks man. Cool video.
me emociono y casi desmayo con su voz ... jinger la mejor
I knew about this band 10 years ago.. But for an old schooler like you. I’m glad you landed on this. Jinjer is an awesome band.. kudos to you sir
Keep it up Mike, great video
That first 3 minutes with no pause, just enjoying the spectacle.
I hope you continue doing videos you like and not the ones we ask you because you are the soul of the channel and it's yours, the ones that like your content will stay and the ones that don't... You know, I feel your channel and I love it. Keep going man
...hahaha..im with ya cuz..im 62 old school rocker played bass in bands for years...never a big metal fan...found jinjer about eight months ago and was blown away..yeah they are totally unique to the metal genre....ive been to journey...led zepp..zz...heart...floyd..all them concerts..love them bands..but these guys are the most new thing to come along since....amazing band...love your reactions...please react to jinjer "whos gonna be the one" live...every one of their songs is a joy to watch...thanks....peace...
...yes I listen to Jinjer every day ;-)
I just wanna say one thing. Mike, you're so warm and shining, like an autumn sun. Gold and beautiful. Every time i see you, i just wanna hug you, then take a tea, book, and go to the autumn forest, and just think about something beautiful and smile, like a child. You're amazing! Sorry about my English 😅
Big love from russia once again🤗🤗🤗
I’m in love with your natural joy that is more than apparent in these videos. Wonderful to see this. I hope to see you do Judgement and Punishment. Ty!
The most amazing thing is not only her voice but the fact that she can sing like that live (only a few can sing like its from the album) and on top of that doing this at the end of the concert. She can really do everything with her voice.
Hahaha what an amazing and sweet honest reaction. Yes...Tatiana is just amazing
Great reaction! Always fun and enjoyable seeing you react to new things. There´s joy, enchantment and pure love for music when you watch these videos and I love that! I am probably half your age but I love some of the acts you mentioned and others from the past. Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Metallica, etc are legends on their own rigth, and some people just don´t know how fundamental they were and still are to music!
About Jinjer and Tatiana, there are other female vocalists that do this, but her skill, ease of switch, beautifull cleans and growl technique (you can understand a lot of it with just one listen) set her apart from the rest. And then she´s got an amazingly talented, original and technically brilliant band behind her that make all four combined one of the best metal acts in years.
At this day, Tatiana and Jinjer are untouchable by similar vocalists and bands.
Sure there are other bands and vocalists who do this, basically, but Jinjer and Tatiana are definitely among the very best.
One of my mates can do this.
Band is Voltera & song is Do What Your Daddy Says
This is how I learned women can growl and have a beautiful soft voice
She is one extremely talented musician without a doubt! She might be one of the most talented vocalists on the planet today!
jesus, her pitch is rock solid
Best react, realy !
That smile.
Judgement & Punishment (live one take video) is one of their most unique songs. It shows even more of her range & the band's talent.
Tatiana is definitely the whole package so to speak. She not only has the best vocal range out there, her stage presence is phenomenal. There are other female vocalists out there with growls, but none with crazy range of cleans, growls, and screams that she has. If you wish to compare, and contrast check out these bands with female growls: Infected Rain, Unleash the Archers, Otep, and Spirit Box.
Caught them a few months before Covid threw a hand grenade into live music. The sound of the band live is just amazing. Absolutely top notch musicians all around and Tatiana is absolutely magnetic on stage. One of the best front men (or front women) out there. She had the audience was wrapped around her finger all night.
there are some women who can growl, but I know none that matches Tatianas versatility and control. And the rest of Jinjer are outstanding musicians, too. The songs, the lyrics and arrangements are so cool. To me they belong to the great bands of our time. (I'm in love, as you might notice)
Definitely not something you see every day! It’s not just you. Also, to the people who unsubscribed, I don’t get that. Can you react to some Queen? They’re my favorite band. Jinjer’s up in my faves, too ❤️
People come and people go. I've unsubscribed from a few channels over time for one reason or another. 4, 7, neither are much to worry about. If he loses 500 from a video then he should worry. lol
Yes, it might have not have anything to do with the video. I have unsubscribed from some channels since I have felt I have too much to follow and not enough time. Sometimes I have subscribed back. I just don't like to have too much things to follow, because when I go to you tube and see that many people have posted videos and then I'll check what they have posted and I like them and find that I have too much things to watch. :)
...saw queen at the miami sportatorium in the 70's...amazing concert...
@@blindbubba9001 You are just trying to make everyone jealous. Go away :)
Want more Jinjer, after this and Pisces? Gotta listen to Teacher Teacher and, more importantly, her one-take vocal of Judgement (& Punishment). You will be blown away by both
Keep going with the JINJER reaction videos.please do (WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ONE) live and maybe some old school stuff like (OUTLANDER) & ( SCISSORS). Both original videos.thank you! ENJOY!!!!
Wacken is German. Pronounced : Vah. Ken
Nobody cares
You can´t just say Vah. Ken, just as you can´t just say Slayer. The correct German pronounciation is EFFING VAH KEN!!!
@@NorbertDz If that's "nobody" meaning you, then my nobody friend, you are correct.
@@NorbertDz He asked us to tell him how to say it in the video.
@@static2430 ok then
Man. I love Journey and Heart. I have seen Journey live in 1978. It was great! But I have grown along with the development of the different genres. In the late '70s and early '80s I listened to the NWOBHM and later on to thrash and speed metal. Now it's technical death metal and black metal. The one doesn't have to conflict with the other. Just enjoy what you enjoy and don't mind the busybodies. They don't matter.
Btw, check out Slaughter to Prevail - Demolisher
You will like it.
You sound like me. I listen to Bach and Beethoven, and Yes, and Heart, and Jethro Tull, and Black Sabbath, and Jinjer, and Disturbed, and Heilung, and Autechre, and Niacin, and Men Without Hats, and Windhand, and Electric Wizard, and . . .
Tatania being amazing, as always. ;)
Love the "older" stuff you react to as well! Bands may have done the same thing a million times over by now, but it's great to hear the influences and especially your professional take on what they are actually doing.
And on that particular note, I'd love to hear what you think of "Stargazer" by Rainbow. (Just make sure it's Ronnie James Dio on vocals.)
then he also needs to do dio's "children of the sea" live.
@@rouvendorn2861 There's so many great songs with RJD, from Rainbow, Black Sabbath, Dio, and Heaven and Hell, that the list of reactions to do would never end. :)
That much power at the END of the set. Jinjer Judgement and Punishment ONE TAKE recently released . Shows her versatility in a one take of the song
You always have the best reaction faces! Also, I wouldn't worry about people unsubscribing, it will be them missing out :)
Hey Mike, love the vids. You should keep covering stuff that's familiar and un-familiar to you regardless of the changes in subs. I think both types of videos are fun and informative!
Amazing reaction 😂
I hope You keep mixing it up(despite any sub losses), if that means keeping the channel real to Yourself. It's always good to see where a person comes from and we might get to see something new, to us. It's about the journey, right? ^^ I'd like to add, that I've enjoyed all of it, one way or another :) From a (mostly) rock/metal-head
She is truly unique. Jinjer is a transcendent band. Not one genre of music. They touch on 3 or 4. She is a Goddess
Tatiana's a unicorn.
There are many female lead singers in this genre, but none of them are as talented as Tati.
I know what I'm talking about.
Maybe you can do next: Judgement & Punishment (live one-take vocal) their newest upload.
But please don't forget the rest of this phenomenal band!
greetings from germany and stay safe
I’ve listen to this type of music pretty much my whole life and I’m 40. She’s not just one of the best females I’ve heard she one of the best I’ve ever heard period.
I really love your videos!
Your reactions are amazing :)
I would love to see Nightwish again.
Yours is an empty hope at Wembley arena would blow your mind!
If you want to see face of a child which just got a bag of candies..Watch Mike ...Great man , great reaction
OK, but Journey and Heart are also still amazing:) Next I'd love to see you react to Spiritbox's Rule of Nine Courtney Lepante one take live performance. I think your popular jaw to floor face would just fall off lol