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As a South African and huge Springbok supporter I'm glad to see rugby growing in the US. All the best for you and your career Carlin. Stick to rugby, IMO it's the best sport in the world!!!
When he ran Track & field nobody did care about his speed because most people have no idea how crazy fast 10.12 is. Now people see how fast he is compared to below average sprinters. i think thats also the main reason why T&F is so underrated. People think Ronaldo can beat Bolt. that Jordan could jump the HJ word record. But no those specialized athletes are something diffrent.
Jordan has one of the highest verticals in NBA history... "The only high jumper I know of who advertises his vertical leap is two-time Olympic medalist Hollis Conway of the U.S. His vertical leap is only 31 inches, which by most standards is just above average. However, he stands just 6 feet tall and has cleared 7’ 10.25 in the high jump, tying him with Stefan Holm for the eighth highest mark of all time. His differential is 22.25 inches, the sixth best of all time. Based on this you can see that it doesn’t take an out-of-this-world hops to be an accomplished high jumper." So yeah compared to even olympic athletes Jordan has an insane vertical. 46 by the way. Those are below average numbers compared to NBA, so high jumpers actually don't have impressive verticals...
@@Raumance I think at its peak Jordan's vertical was probably 48" not 46" although the way you measure that can vary and there are different accounts. I've seen straight-on photographs, no perspective issues, of that dude's head above the 10' rim by several inches; there are famous dunks of his where he literally had to "duck" as he was following his trajectory toward the rim or else he would have smashed his head into its side.
@@Raumance Hollis Conway only "advertised" his vertical leap (and also his 100 m time) to emphasise that high jump is about more than just pure athletical talent. (Both of which are in the very top few percentile for the population, I don't know for whom they are could be considered "just above average".) It's also about technique. You can't just do the Fosbury flop on the first attempt and expect perfect technique and optimal results. It takes years to build up the technique. Jordan could've had a 60 vertical, but touching that high, and clearing with his whole body is a different sport. He couldn't have broken Sotomayor's record unless he became a high jumper himself.
@@andrasszabo1570 I don't think you know what vertical means. Jordan had 48 inch vertical which is among the highest ever. Vertical isn't high jump. That's not what it means.
All these people saying "ahh but he wouldn't be as good at 15 a side". Yeah, and? He isn't playing 15 a side. And most 15's front row players wouldn't be much good at 7's. They're different games! Tiger Woods probably wouldn't be that good at boxing but so what? Carlin Isles is a 7's player and a brilliant one. Why try to cut him down by saying he'd not be so good at a sport that he never claimed that he would be good at. Some people just have to look for negatives.
***** Sevens is so much better. It's more exciting, more athleticism and takes a bigger toll on the body. And I played both for almost 10 years, the full game...try completing a full tournament of 7s matches let alone at this International level and then get back to critiquing Carlin. By the way he's about to be an Olympian.
The sport Carlin is playing here is the 7 a side (rather than 15) version. In normal Rugby the players are split into backs and forwards and there would be a LOT less space than in this video. Speed is usually required by the backs (in particular the wingers and fullbacks) and the bulkier players are usually the forwards, of course the backs are still required to tackle and thus, need bulk themselves up as well. I hope this helps and i can try my best to explain if you don't understand anything.
Yeah... Possibly the greatest NFL running back ever could never excel at another sport that involves running with a ball and being elusive. What was the OP thinking?
I sometimes get hard on the idea of Adrian Peterson with a rugby ball. Every RB the NFL has would be a back. The athletes the US have are monsters. We already destroy in the Olympics. The way I look at it we could be the best rugby team in 7's and in rugby union. All we have to do is lean turns rugby instead of football.
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I think he has an amazing story and his rugby highlights are fun to watch, but I wouldn't be surprised if he never gets off the practice squad in the NFL. First of all people need to keep in mind that he's already played American football at the Division II level and he didn't have a noteworthy career and that wasn't against the best players at the college level. So why the expectation that he's suddenly an American football phenomen? Secondly, speed alone doesn't cut it in the NFL and there have been numerous players that have had similar timed speed, but didn't make a huge impact in the NFL. He's not going to be the fastest player to step foot on an NFL field, he's not even going to be the fastest player in the NFL right now. In track Isles had a wind-legal PR of 10.24 in the 100m and 6.63 in the 60m. There are NFL players currently that have run faster in track and played football at the higher D1 football in the NFL, most haven't done a lot in the league. Trindon Holliday - Texans (10.00 100m, 6.54 60m), Jacoby Ford - Raiders (10.01 100m, 6.51 60m), Jeff Demps - IR Bucs (9.96 100m 6.52 60m), TJ Graham - Bills (10.21, 6.62), Michael Ray Garvin - unsigned (10.10, 6.59), CJ Spiller - Bills (10.22, 6.65) are just a few that were as fast or faster than Isles. Even an Olympian sprinter, Justin Gatlin, whose a two-time world champion in the 100m and 60m with PRs of 9.79s and 6.45s couldn't make an NFL roster when he worked out for the Texans in 2006. This guy has a great story and it's nice to see him following his dream in the NFL, but the hype is kind of ridiculous. If he makes an NFL active roster he'll be very lucky. And for the people that want to bring up 4.22 in the forty yard dash... PLEASE STOP. 4.22 on a stopwatch isn't comparable to a semi-auto time like those at the NFL combine. So running 4.22 doesn't make him faster than Chris Johnson unless the timing equipment was the same. Remember, there was another guy no one had heard of that ran 4.19 just a couple months ago name Terrell Sinkfield and he never lasted more than a month on any NFL roster. He's been cut by FOUR NFL teams. So a sub 4.3 forty yard dash outside of the NFL combine doesn't mean much.
He looks talented, but then again in NFL you're up against slower players since they're covered in gear. Try watching some Sevens, you'll notice that at least 90% of the players can move like him.
@@TDMFAN he is definitely a lot quicker than the vast amount of rugby players. . Dan Norton did outrun him over ninety metres but I think that Isles must have been whacked from a earlier flat out run
By far one of the most reasoned and level headed arguments I've ever seen on RUclips. That being said I agree, a person who is a naturally gifted athlete (good stamina, muscle development etc.) would be good at any sport they train for. The best wide receivers would have probably been amazing rugby or soccer players if that is where they had decided to focus and train instead. Look at Bo Jackson, amazing athlete at 2 different sports. It's all about what sports gets you the most money. i.e. pop.
I know what this is like to play with, Atheer Al-Salim from Rugby was the 5th fastest person (just missed his place in the 100m relay) in the UK and he played for "Team Energize" in the Scandinavian 7's back in 2002 it was berserk watching him go - luckily he played for us!
I love Carlin. i love watching him play. I was just replying to Brian4480's comment. But I am happy that someone like him who came from football played rugby and loved. He is one of my favorite players BTW and I give him a lot of credits that :)
Dwight Freeney actually had a 4.48 and Carlin Isles had a 4.1 40m sprint which is 43 and 3 quarter yards. Carlin Isles had 6 months to prepare to play rugby 7s and Okoye had weeks to prepare to get into the NFL, and he got signed by the 49ers, it goes both ways.
I want everyone to notice not what a great athlete he is but how humble he is every time he completes a try. Now that is why I love the sport, because most serious coaches discipline while training.
For a try to count, you have to properly ground the ball i.e. you need to have decent downward pressure with your hands. The safest way to do this is to dive to the ground because this ensures you have the downward pressure while keeping the ball in your hands. The reason for 'going around' is because after a try is scored, there's a conversion attempt. Where the ball is placed depends on where the ball was grounded so running around to the middle of the posts makes it easier to convert.
If you're looking for steady action, you'll enjoy Rugby. If you're looking for pure explosiveness from some of the best athletes on the planet, football's your game.
He doesn't score until the ball is placed on the ground (which means the opposition can stop you scoring, if they don't let you place the ball on the ground) and the location determines where the extra point will be kicked from. So directly behind the posts, will be directly in front and easier to convert.
Where you score the try is where the conversion kick is taken. Therefore if you place the ball down in the middle of the try zone, it's a very easy kick right in front of the goal posts.
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Because there are many operations in rugby that require different kinds of players. What is shown in this video is the 'try' i.e. the scoring (not unlike scoring in soccer) and there is also the 'scrum' and the 'ruck', which are battles of brute force and mass to gain possession of the ball. In rugby there are 'backs', who are smaller and faster, and 'forwards', who are bigger and stronger. They have different jobs, different skill sets, and make rugby a very comprehensive sport.
To score a try the ball has to touch the ground. Additionally, the conversion is taken from in-line with where the try is scored, so running under the posts before doing so makes the conversion easier.
It should be noted that Isles played D2 football at Ashland University and holds several records as a KO returner. Seems to be overlooked with all the Detroit Lions talk!
There is a Wikipedia page that lists people who converted from one football code to another. It says the last NFL to Rugby Union 15s player was Richard Tardits. French born and played for New England Patriots. He played in the 1999 World cup for the USA which wasn't that long ago. On the other hand recently RU to NFL Hayden Smith Nate Ebner (7s player) And recently Daniel Adongo + Lawrence Okoye (played rugby for L'Irish + L'Wasps academy teams) Could be more but that's all I know of :)
A conversion attempt follows a try, and that is taken anywhere in front of wherever the ball is touched. Naturally, this is easier to convert between the posts, than next to the byline. Whereas with American football a kick is always taken in front of posts after a TD, in Rugby, it depends where the try is scored, so he's just making the conversion easier.
Hayden smith has played a down, he has 1 reception for 16 yards, Paea, Ngata, and Williams all played rugby before they played Football, and Ebner has played professional rugby, he played U20 for the U.S eagles.
I think what's confusing people is him going in the middle. Anything past the try line is a try. But the conversion kick for more points is kicked in line with where the try was scored. So it's best to score the try right behind the posts.
This shows why in something like American Football you have much more specialization of body types by position: to be able to deal with that sort of quickness and athleticism by a player you are attacking/defending. This is more like linebackers trying to chase down a wide receiver in the open field. Good luck with that.
There are no "Hash marks" in Rugby. When they attempt the conversion it is in line with where the ball was touched down. So players try to score near the goal posts to make the kick easier :) Also In Rugby 7s the conversion has to be a "drop kick". This makes it harder than the full game of Rugby which is normally taken from a kicking Tee. You sometimes see drop kick conversions in Rugby but only if a team is losing late in the game and they want a quick restart. Hope that helped.
where you place the ball is where you take the kick from. 5 points for a try and you get to take a kick for 2 points in line from where the try is scored.
you have to put the ball down to score a try, and also, a kick is taken in line with where the ball is put down to add extra points. That is why it is preferable to put the ball down in the middle of the posts.
In Aussie Rules Football, they actually took some African American college basketball players, who weren't quite good enough to play in the NBA or Europe, and they gave them a tryout for the AFL. And already a few of them have signed professional contracts, even though they had never even heard of the sport before the tryout. In the tryout 6 of the 25 broke the AFL all time vertical leap record of 32 inches...
This was a sevens rugby tournament which means its 7 a side rugby, it means faster play and alot more running. For lack of a better work "Real" Rugby is 15 man a side, with much more specialisation in the team.
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Love the part where he gives the ball to the ref after scoring the try, shows you he inexperience he is with rugby, just think how good he'll be with a couple of tournaments under his belt
Some of us are footy fans, except that I personally am stuck here. Once I'm through with college, it's off to England (since I already interned with a company based there) where I can be among more people like me instead of being the one glared at when I ask for the Arsenal-Tottenham game on Sundays.
Ahh see...that makes a TON of difference. I was watching this and going..holy shit that guy is unstoppable. But I'm assuming on the 7's and 15's they use the same size field. Having an additional 16 players on the field would make it far more congested and make this sort of running quite a bit more difficult.
Always with the argument of which sport is tougher. Who cares? They are both awesome games, fun to play and watch. Everyone knows America has the toughest, best athletes in general. No need to try and prove it by showing who tackles the hardest.
The conversion is taken at a direct line from where the try was scored, if he places it directly in the line of the goal, the person kicking the conversion has an easier angle to get the ball over the bar. H / ! \ You can see the exclamation point is dead on centre, if you can place the ball between the posts, it's easier for the kicker.
Rugby is such an incredible game. Especially Union (in my opinion). It's a shame that the US is only just getting youth systems in place. If only a small percentage of the finest American athletes chose rugby from an early age, the US would be a hell of a team to compete against. I hope the sport grows more now that so many parents are terrified of allowing their children to play (American) football.
Didn't you watch the video of him scoring against the All Blacks? And that was within the 1st minute of being subbed in, for his first ever game. After only learning the sport 3 months ago...
If what Mark says is taken literally then yes you are correct. However, if the USA best athletes all decided to play 1 or 2 major sports throughout the course of their athletic careers this story would most likely be written with the States playing a larger role in world soccer. Btw I love soccer or football as everyone else calls it ;P and have had this convo with many fans from all over the world.
Youth 15s, 7s pro So he did play pro Rugby, he only played pop warner football, and played all high school and college rugby, he only turned back to football in college, Paea got discovered playing Rugby in Tonga by a Football scout. Hayden Smith has played Rugby, even though he played basketball first he has still played Rugby.
Man, I totally forgot about 7s! No wonder heh. I guess i should have figured, not nearly as much running room otherwise! I've spent too much time in aus, all they like is AFL, which is just a bunch of kids fumbling a ball.
Isles is at least four yards faster than most seven's players but Australia had two 10.3 men for the hundred in the 1960s. Like him they were also track athletes
This has got put up on Reddit recently with the tag something like "Sprinter tries rugby and it is not even fair" - Which is very misleading if you do come here from that. If you are and reading this... This is Rugby Union but 7's with less people on the pitch than the full game. While the guy is fast and since this post his skills improved and while he does score tries he got found out pretty quickly and his other skills do lack and he does not just go to games and score 5 tries every single time.
"Just started playing rugby 12 weeks ago." LOL I lost it.
Those bursts of speed he puts on when he sees someone getting close are insane. It's like a little 'turbo' switch he flips.
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And rugby players are already really fast, its insane indeed haha really fun to watch
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As a South African and huge Springbok supporter I'm glad to see rugby growing in the US. All the best for you and your career Carlin. Stick to rugby, IMO it's the best sport in the world!!!
I know I'm late replying but you must really enjoy watching Seabelo Senatla play if you liked Carlin Isles.
When he ran Track & field nobody did care about his speed because most people have no idea how crazy fast 10.12 is. Now people see how fast he is compared to below average sprinters. i think thats also the main reason why T&F is so underrated. People think Ronaldo can beat Bolt. that Jordan could jump the HJ word record. But no those specialized athletes are something diffrent.
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Jordan has one of the highest verticals in NBA history...
"The only high jumper I know of who advertises his vertical leap is two-time Olympic medalist Hollis Conway of the U.S. His vertical leap is only 31 inches, which by most standards is just above average. However, he stands just 6 feet tall and has cleared 7’ 10.25 in the high jump, tying him with Stefan Holm for the eighth highest mark of all time. His differential is 22.25 inches, the sixth best of all time. Based on this you can see that it doesn’t take an out-of-this-world hops to be an accomplished high jumper."
So yeah compared to even olympic athletes Jordan has an insane vertical. 46 by the way. Those are below average numbers compared to NBA, so high jumpers actually don't have impressive verticals...
@@Raumance I think at its peak Jordan's vertical was probably 48" not 46" although the way you measure that can vary and there are different accounts. I've seen straight-on photographs, no perspective issues, of that dude's head above the 10' rim by several inches; there are famous dunks of his where he literally had to "duck" as he was following his trajectory toward the rim or else he would have smashed his head into its side.
@@Raumance Hollis Conway only "advertised" his vertical leap (and also his 100 m time) to emphasise that high jump is about more than just pure athletical talent. (Both of which are in the very top few percentile for the population, I don't know for whom they are could be considered "just above average".)
It's also about technique. You can't just do the Fosbury flop on the first attempt and expect perfect technique and optimal results. It takes years to build up the technique.
Jordan could've had a 60 vertical, but touching that high, and clearing with his whole body is a different sport. He couldn't have broken Sotomayor's record unless he became a high jumper himself.
@@andrasszabo1570 I don't think you know what vertical means. Jordan had 48 inch vertical which is among the highest ever. Vertical isn't high jump. That's not what it means.
All these people saying "ahh but he wouldn't be as good at 15 a side". Yeah, and? He isn't playing 15 a side. And most 15's front row players wouldn't be much good at 7's. They're different games! Tiger Woods probably wouldn't be that good at boxing but so what? Carlin Isles is a 7's player and a brilliant one. Why try to cut him down by saying he'd not be so good at a sport that he never claimed that he would be good at. Some people just have to look for negatives.
+Paul Hussey well said
there are always gonna be haters. Most of them are just spectators and probably haven't played a game of rugby their entire lives.
I like how you got specific there, because plenty of XV forwards play sevens and tens.
this guy is fast, once he has space its over
If you don't consider New Zealand or South Africa to be "real competition" then I don't know who would be.
***** Wales isn't really a big rugby sevens nation.
***** GIve the kid a break shit when this video was taken he hadn't been playing for more than a year fuck
***** Sevens is so much better. It's more exciting, more athleticism and takes a bigger toll on the body. And I played both for almost 10 years, the full game...try completing a full tournament of 7s matches let alone at this International level and then get back to critiquing Carlin. By the way he's about to be an Olympian.
If you change the RUclips speed settings to 0.25, it looks like normal rugby.
Proud to have blocked for this guy in highschool football and glad to see he is still putting his talents to good use. Keep running Carlin.
I remember Robert(Bob) Hayes, who won 100m dash in Tokyo Olympic in 1964. He also was a outstanding wide receiver of Dallas Cowboys.
Could use him on the wing for Man United...
Why should I even run after this guy? i'd just sit down and let him do whatever.
"Oh, and he's gone all the way around...fantastic"
The sport Carlin is playing here is the 7 a side (rather than 15) version. In normal Rugby the players are split into backs and forwards and there would be a LOT less space than in this video. Speed is usually required by the backs (in particular the wingers and fullbacks) and the bulkier players are usually the forwards, of course the backs are still required to tackle and thus, need bulk themselves up as well. I hope this helps and i can try my best to explain if you don't understand anything.
this guy changes the game of rugby forever
Don't forget USA is the reigning Olympic champions (from back in the day). Time to start adding to our rugby medals collection once again!!
Barry Sanders would've been fucking amazing in this sport
no, i dont think so.
yes he would
why?
he didnt train to be a rugby player, he trained to be a football player and an NFL athlete.
Yeah... Possibly the greatest NFL running back ever could never excel at another sport that involves running with a ball and being elusive. What was the OP thinking?
imagine if more former american football players started playing rugby. the U.S. would be stacked!
or just track guys in general
Guys who couldn't quite make it in Track or American football. Couldn't hurt, I wish more of them would give Rugby a shot.
Rugby sevens is a completely different game then rugby union.
Nick S And the difference between 7's and American Football isn't?
I sometimes get hard on the idea of Adrian Peterson with a rugby ball. Every RB the NFL has would be a back. The athletes the US have are monsters. We already destroy in the Olympics. The way I look at it we could be the best rugby team in 7's and in rugby union. All we have to do is lean turns rugby instead of football.
Isles: I'm the quickest.
Beuaden Barrett: Hold my beer....
Isles runs off with his beer.
He and Bold on a race ! I realy want to see it!
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I think he has an amazing story and his rugby highlights are fun to watch, but I wouldn't be surprised if he never gets off the practice squad in the NFL. First of all people need to keep in mind that he's already played American football at the Division II level and he didn't have a noteworthy career and that wasn't against the best players at the college level. So why the expectation that he's suddenly an American football phenomen?
Secondly, speed alone doesn't cut it in the NFL and there have been numerous players that have had similar timed speed, but didn't make a huge impact in the NFL. He's not going to be the fastest player to step foot on an NFL field, he's not even going to be the fastest player in the NFL right now. In track Isles had a wind-legal PR of 10.24 in the 100m and 6.63 in the 60m. There are NFL players currently that have run faster in track and played football at the higher D1 football in the NFL, most haven't done a lot in the league. Trindon Holliday - Texans (10.00 100m, 6.54 60m), Jacoby Ford - Raiders (10.01 100m, 6.51 60m), Jeff Demps - IR Bucs (9.96 100m 6.52 60m), TJ Graham - Bills (10.21, 6.62), Michael Ray Garvin - unsigned (10.10, 6.59), CJ Spiller - Bills (10.22, 6.65) are just a few that were as fast or faster than Isles. Even an Olympian sprinter, Justin Gatlin, whose a two-time world champion in the 100m and 60m with PRs of 9.79s and 6.45s couldn't make an NFL roster when he worked out for the Texans in 2006.
This guy has a great story and it's nice to see him following his dream in the NFL, but the hype is kind of ridiculous. If he makes an NFL active roster he'll be very lucky. And for the people that want to bring up 4.22 in the forty yard dash... PLEASE STOP. 4.22 on a stopwatch isn't comparable to a semi-auto time like those at the NFL combine. So running 4.22 doesn't make him faster than Chris Johnson unless the timing equipment was the same. Remember, there was another guy no one had heard of that ran 4.19 just a couple months ago name Terrell Sinkfield and he never lasted more than a month on any NFL roster. He's been cut by FOUR NFL teams. So a sub 4.3 forty yard dash outside of the NFL combine doesn't mean much.
its just funny to see a D-II runner make rugby players look like they are in mud.
meaninglesssoul1 Because this is 7 aside rugby, not real rugby. He wouldn't be able to run around people like that in 15 a side rugby.
just imagine Tavon Austin in this... nobody would touch him
Tavon Austin is a lot slower than him.
Im not talking about his speed im talking about his elusiveness...
He looks talented, but then again in NFL you're up against slower players since they're covered in gear. Try watching some Sevens, you'll notice that at least 90% of the players can move like him.
@@TDMFAN he is definitely a lot quicker than the vast amount of rugby players. . Dan Norton did outrun him over ninety metres but I think that Isles must have been whacked from a earlier flat out run
@@anthonyparkinson5544 this comment was about Tavon Austin.
Imagine hussie bolt playing in rugby...
He could only play 7s. Not real rugby. I don't think he is tough enough.
Bernd Bananenbieger My ass. Isles is small as fck and can handle 15s.
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What makes you think he can handle 15s? He has never played it because he's too small.
Bernd Bananenbieger There's a video of him bombing a try in 15s on here. How could you not know about that?
Bernd Bananenbieger Besides, he's around the same size as your typical half back or fly half.
I saw him on Saturday at the World Club 7s at Twickenham. His pace was electric. Totally exhilarating. Really looking forward to following his career.
This guy will possibly be a trailblazer for Rugby in the United States after the 2016 Olympics.
American football is nothing compared to RUGBY
oh is that why Carlin Isles running all over rugby players and cant even get past the NFL practice squad? lol
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This is rugby 7s. Not real rugby. He would be complete shit in league or union.
and then all the sprinters become rugby players
By far one of the most reasoned and level headed arguments I've ever seen on RUclips. That being said I agree, a person who is a naturally gifted athlete (good stamina, muscle development etc.) would be good at any sport they train for. The best wide receivers would have probably been amazing rugby or soccer players if that is where they had decided to focus and train instead. Look at Bo Jackson, amazing athlete at 2 different sports. It's all about what sports gets you the most money. i.e. pop.
I know what this is like to play with, Atheer Al-Salim from Rugby was the 5th fastest person (just missed his place in the 100m relay) in the UK and he played for "Team Energize" in the Scandinavian 7's back in 2002 it was berserk watching him go - luckily he played for us!
I love Carlin. i love watching him play. I was just replying to Brian4480's comment. But I am happy that someone like him who came from football played rugby and loved. He is one of my favorite players BTW and I give him a lot of credits that :)
Dwight Freeney actually had a 4.48 and Carlin Isles had a 4.1 40m sprint which is 43 and 3 quarter yards. Carlin Isles had 6 months to prepare to play rugby 7s and Okoye had weeks to prepare to get into the NFL, and he got signed by the 49ers, it goes both ways.
I love this! Great to see the US coming up in the 7s always knew they had the potential
Best version of rugby in my opinion, and this bloke was something else
I want everyone to notice not what a great athlete he is but how humble he is every time he completes a try. Now that is why I love the sport, because most serious coaches discipline while training.
For a try to count, you have to properly ground the ball i.e. you need to have decent downward pressure with your hands. The safest way to do this is to dive to the ground because this ensures you have the downward pressure while keeping the ball in your hands. The reason for 'going around' is because after a try is scored, there's a conversion attempt. Where the ball is placed depends on where the ball was grounded so running around to the middle of the posts makes it easier to convert.
If you're looking for steady action, you'll enjoy Rugby. If you're looking for pure explosiveness from some of the best athletes on the planet, football's your game.
He doesn't score until the ball is placed on the ground (which means the opposition can stop you scoring, if they don't let you place the ball on the ground) and the location determines where the extra point will be kicked from. So directly behind the posts, will be directly in front and easier to convert.
Where you score the try is where the conversion kick is taken. Therefore if you place the ball down in the middle of the try zone, it's a very easy kick right in front of the goal posts.
The kid has arrived here in the Dirty Mitten! This seasons over but if this kid makes it through training camp next year I look forward to seeing him on the field blazing cats out in a LIONS jersey.
What a machine! Carlin you crazy good. Hope you do great and make the olympics
Because there are many operations in rugby that require different kinds of players. What is shown in this video is the 'try' i.e. the scoring (not unlike scoring in soccer) and there is also the 'scrum' and the 'ruck', which are battles of brute force and mass to gain possession of the ball. In rugby there are 'backs', who are smaller and faster, and 'forwards', who are bigger and stronger. They have different jobs, different skill sets, and make rugby a very comprehensive sport.
To score a try the ball has to touch the ground. Additionally, the conversion is taken from in-line with where the try is scored, so running under the posts before doing so makes the conversion easier.
Man this guy is awesome excited to watch him play in 7s
He is really kind, I tweeted him and he replied and followed me! So nice :)
It should be noted that Isles played D2 football at Ashland University and holds several records as a KO returner. Seems to be overlooked with all the Detroit Lions talk!
There is a Wikipedia page that lists people who converted from one football code to another.
It says the last NFL to Rugby Union 15s player was Richard Tardits.
French born and played for New England Patriots.
He played in the 1999 World cup for the USA which wasn't that long ago.
On the other hand recently RU to NFL
Hayden Smith
Nate Ebner (7s player)
And recently
Daniel Adongo
+ Lawrence Okoye (played rugby for L'Irish + L'Wasps academy teams)
Could be more but that's all I know of :)
A conversion attempt follows a try, and that is taken anywhere in front of wherever the ball is touched. Naturally, this is easier to convert between the posts, than next to the byline. Whereas with American football a kick is always taken in front of posts after a TD, in Rugby, it depends where the try is scored, so he's just making the conversion easier.
É até bonito de ver, muito bom ter um velocista no time!
DETROIT LIONS JUST SIGNED HIM TO OUR PRACTICE TEAM!!!! Hope to see him returning some TOUCHDOWNS soon!!!
Great choice of music for this video.
Hayden smith has played a down, he has 1 reception for 16 yards, Paea, Ngata, and Williams all played rugby before they played Football, and Ebner has played professional rugby, he played U20 for the U.S eagles.
Thanks for explaining that. I was wondering why this seemed so much less physical than other (brief) viewings I've had of rugby play over the years.
Haha I remember when this video had like 1000 views. Amazing to see how popular its become.
I think what's confusing people is him going in the middle.
Anything past the try line is a try. But the conversion kick for more points is kicked in line with where the try was scored. So it's best to score the try right behind the posts.
This guy is such a talent , how has no rugby club signed him yet?1
We do...and someday the world will be watching just like they do in Europe and the Southern Hemisphere! :)
This was great to watch
Looks real, might want to start getting into rugby as well.
This shows why in something like American Football you have much more specialization of body types by position: to be able to deal with that sort of quickness and athleticism by a player you are attacking/defending. This is more like linebackers trying to chase down a wide receiver in the open field. Good luck with that.
There are no "Hash marks" in Rugby.
When they attempt the conversion it is in line with where the ball was touched down.
So players try to score near the goal posts to make the kick easier :)
Also In Rugby 7s the conversion has to be a "drop kick".
This makes it harder than the full game of Rugby which is normally taken from a kicking Tee.
You sometimes see drop kick conversions in Rugby but only if a team is losing late in the game and they want a quick restart.
Hope that helped.
where you place the ball is where you take the kick from. 5 points for a try and you get to take a kick for 2 points in line from where the try is scored.
you have to put the ball down to score a try, and also, a kick is taken in line with where the ball is put down to add extra points. That is why it is preferable to put the ball down in the middle of the posts.
This guy should be a kick/punt returner in the NFL he's amazing
In Aussie Rules Football, they actually took some African American college basketball players, who weren't quite good enough to play in the NBA or Europe, and they gave them a tryout for the AFL. And already a few of them have signed professional contracts, even though they had never even heard of the sport before the tryout. In the tryout 6 of the 25 broke the AFL all time vertical leap record of 32 inches...
OH MY GOODNESS send this bloke to NZ for couple of weeks... we will see a super star on the rugby field in no time... a rabbit on the loose
i play both and i like rugby a bit more but football is a completely different sport and its actually so fun
This was a sevens rugby tournament which means its 7 a side rugby, it means faster play and alot more running. For lack of a better work "Real" Rugby is 15 man a side, with much more specialisation in the team.
This guy is the most exciting 7's player since Serevi
my 1st time ever watching rugby lol. Will the eagles please sign this guy to the NFL, preferably philadelphia eagles ;)
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The South Africa 7s kit is class
Love the part where he gives the ball to the ref after scoring the try, shows you he inexperience he is with rugby, just think how good he'll be with a couple of tournaments under his belt
Such are the ingrained habits of an American football running back, if he's polite. And I can't wait to see him improve in rugby as well.
So if you want to be amazing rugby player just be really good at another sport and boom! You are amazing!
I usually hate music in some videos. This one made it pretty damn enjoyable. And damn, he got legs.
I wish rugby was bigger in the States it is very fun to watch
He is gonna play 15s in France next year, He has been signedby Toulon in top14.
Some of us are footy fans, except that I personally am stuck here. Once I'm through with college, it's off to England (since I already interned with a company based there) where I can be among more people like me instead of being the one glared at when I ask for the Arsenal-Tottenham game on Sundays.
Ahh see...that makes a TON of difference. I was watching this and going..holy shit that guy is unstoppable. But I'm assuming on the 7's and 15's they use the same size field. Having an additional 16 players on the field would make it far more congested and make this sort of running quite a bit more difficult.
Wow, I really hope this is the guy to get USA seriously into Rugby.
Ball skills can be learnt to a greater degree than physical attributes can be attained and are more important in 9 and 10 than wing.
this guy is a legend
heard that he had a trial for Leinster in Ireland .Hasn't been called up as far as i know.He isn't even playing for USA 15s.
Always with the argument of which sport is tougher. Who cares? They are both awesome games, fun to play and watch. Everyone knows America has the toughest, best athletes in general. No need to try and prove it by showing who tackles the hardest.
The conversion is taken at a direct line from where the try was scored, if he places it directly in the line of the goal, the person kicking the conversion has an easier angle to get the ball over the bar.
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You can see the exclamation point is dead on centre, if you can place the ball between the posts, it's easier for the kicker.
Usa is currently the reigning olympic champion in rugby. Id say were pretty good.
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Would love to see him run at Ferris or North or Lomu if he was still playing, his olympic dreams would be SHATTERED
Rugby is such an incredible game. Especially Union (in my opinion). It's a shame that the US is only just getting youth systems in place. If only a small percentage of the finest American athletes chose rugby from an early age, the US would be a hell of a team to compete against. I hope the sport grows more now that so many parents are terrified of allowing their children to play (American) football.
Didn't you watch the video of him scoring against the All Blacks? And that was within the 1st minute of being subbed in, for his first ever game. After only learning the sport 3 months ago...
Inappropriate soundtrack is the hallmark of the RUclips experience!
you go Isles.. #RESPECT
If what Mark says is taken literally then yes you are correct. However, if the USA best athletes all decided to play 1 or 2 major sports throughout the course of their athletic careers this story would most likely be written with the States playing a larger role in world soccer. Btw I love soccer or football as everyone else calls it ;P and have had this convo with many fans from all over the world.
Youth 15s, 7s pro So he did play pro Rugby, he only played pop warner football, and played all high school and college rugby, he only turned back to football in college, Paea got discovered playing Rugby in Tonga by a Football scout.
Hayden Smith has played Rugby, even though he played basketball first he has still played Rugby.
Mark Grasela; professional troll.
Epic video though, I've always wondered what happens if sports collide, this is a good taste :D
Man, I totally forgot about 7s! No wonder heh. I guess i should have figured, not nearly as much running room otherwise! I've spent too much time in aus, all they like is AFL, which is just a bunch of kids fumbling a ball.
Welcome to Toulon ! :D
Isles is at least four yards faster than most seven's players but Australia had two 10.3 men for the hundred in the 1960s. Like him they were also track athletes
This has got put up on Reddit recently with the tag something like "Sprinter tries rugby and it is not even fair" - Which is very misleading if you do come here from that. If you are and reading this...
This is Rugby Union but 7's with less people on the pitch than the full game. While the guy is fast and since this post his skills improved and while he does score tries he got found out pretty quickly and his other skills do lack and he does not just go to games and score 5 tries every single time.
would love to see how he fares in full 15's at wellford road, will be harder for him to break away but he is bloody fast
Just.......amazing