That is not quite true. It's true that in England speaking can amount to assault if a person apprehends harm. However, courts have also ruled that police officers get sworn at and threatened on a daily basis and can't reasonably maintain a fear of harm unless the words are accompanied by a tangible threat above and beyond words spoken.
@@peterd788 No verbal assault. It is an offence to use threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them. So no tangible threat is required that would be less a matter of law and more a matter of opinion. No idea why you need to lie about that but please don't.
@@crowbar9566 Yep, they have to make out they're the victims, somehow. Pity that when someone threatens a member of the public, esp a woman, the police do little or nothing.
1970’s Scotland, every village had local Bobby who lived in the community and knew everyone. They’d walk the streets, chat and give advice and reprimand when required. Nowadays in Scotland, I’ve seen no bobbies on the beat for many years other than in the city. I’d be shocked to see a cop just patrolling the streets on foot, but sorely missed.
@Bonnie Hopkins that's exactly the type of house I grew up in - my sisters and I used to play in the police station annex when it was raining outside - that was in the early 70s, then we moved to another area and our house was right next door to the police station
I live on the outskirts of Glasgow ( Scotland ) I think we could do with less traffic police , but more police patrolling the streets and schemes surrounding the City ,which can get very violent and in certain areas overrun with young gangs of wee pricks . 🏴
All patrolling officers can issues traffic offences but when looking at the capacity of fully fledged traffic officers within Strathclyde there are only 2/3 groups at any one time, there most certainly should be more police employed unfortunately there is very little appeal to being a officer, and you find the role appeals to individuals who wish to hold and implement additional power.
Don't know how it is in Scotland but where I live in the UK it's so dangerous here people don't care and people just hurl abuse etc for even slightest thing
I am a retired (Due to health not age) UK police constable. The UK and US police came from the same thinking but went very different routes. In the UK we police by consent mostly whereas the US do law enforcement
@@martinavery1609not anymore they dont rainbow police dancing at the LGBT whatever ...... instead of dealing with crimes like burglary, violence etc .
Not sure where you live, but in Boro there's very little respect for the police. The issue we've got is social media in my opinion. People recording the arrests live on the platforms, it then draws crowds, which then leads to more officers having to turn up, which then makes them seem like they're coming in force, when in actuality all they're doing is back up for a bad situation for the police.
The Bow Street Runners were named after a street in London called Bow Street and presumably runners because they were on foot, so ran after criminals or to the scene of a crime. It's now a museum that is open to the public, but until recently there was still a police station in Bow Street. There's also a crime museum at new Scotland Yard which is not open to the public which contains memorabilia from notorious cases. No perhaps if you contacted Scotland yard's PR department you might get a visit as a law enforcement officer from another country.
Personally in the uk i think people want more police. Yes they are annoying to deal with when they mess with cancelling your party or getting arrested on a night out. However you always go to the police when YOU get harmed in any way like getting mugged, your house or car getting robbed etc...that is unless you are a shady individual yourself that doesn't want police involved for your own benefit.
Everyone hate the police until you need them. I have total respect for the majority of them they have a lot of shit to deal with and if one cop dose something bad you all get blamed. Ones that abuse there power and trust in the public tho deserve to be put inside with the people they arrested un supervised
We are 20k cops down since the Tories took power and they are supposed to be the party of law and order. These days the only cops you see are in cars or on a horse at a riot. You rarely see them on the street so it's not surprising that knife crime in some areas is going up 🙁
Upvote from the UK, purely for the beer comment! 👍 Also, in terms of the salary element. Bare in mind that in the US the number of annual leave days per annum is usually much lower than in the UK and a large chunk of an American's salary (especially if they have a family e.g. spouse and 2 kids) will go on hard decent healthcare insurance, compared to the UK where the National Health Service is funded by taxation so no true need for paying additional medical insurance (although options are available so people can go private if they choose).
@@georgebarnes8163 any medical illness relating to the production of phlegm by the body is exempt of this providing it is done in decent manor IE not the middle of the path IE not spat out in a manor that would cause any spray effect In short do it respectfully and you should always be ok
@@madyottoyotto3055 not the case, many local councils prosecute for spitting in public places regardless of the manner it was done or where it was done.
If you want to see UK cops in action the documentary series "Police Interceptors" follows frontline officers, and it would be interesting to hear your thoughts about it.
Yes its true most people in the UK think there is not enough police in uk most of are police stations in the UK have been close this is mostly in rural area of the UK
The US talks about "law enforcement"; in the UK, the police are charged to "keep the Queen's peace", police by consent, not enforcing the law. That is a major difference in approach.
@@blackpuppy5645 "Policing by consent indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers, and their accountability for doing so.”
In theory, but not in practice. They even have the same police siren sounds.... and tasers .... and pepper spray..... and retractable batons. Both eat doughnuts
@@sgbh8874 I live in a medium sized English town about a mile from the local police station Halfway between is a petrol station/convenience store. Frequently there is a police car parked out front while one officer goes in to buy - yes, doughnuts! When did this become the international police snack of choice?
I'm a Brit, so don't want to have you cancelled dude lol. I'm also ex army so can appreciate another man who serves. Thanks for your service. Yes, we want more police in the uk. Crime is rising massively and is directly linked to the fall in the number of officers on the street.
Yes, we want more, but we also need to make sure they're used correctly. Cracking down on protests that are 'likely to cause annoyance', or going after kids for making bad jokes on twitter... that's not what police are for, but it is what their role is being changed into.
"Crime is rising massively and is directly linked to the fall in the number of officers on the street." Er. No. It's a popular myth but "crime" in the UK is not rising "massively". It's a popular trope, especially in the UK newspapers, but crime stats are far to nuanced to say they are "rising" or "falling" as a whole. Some types of crime are rising, some are falling. Crime is changing as it has throughout history. The BCS has more to say on this.
I live in the UK and I haven't seen a cop for at least 5 years.When I was a kid we had a local cop everywhere and they were on our case when we were scrumping apples (sneaking in peoples gardens to steal the apples off their trees).
It is, the Met and the FBI define Assault completely differently, enough so that comparing numbers of Assaults between the UK and US is meaningless. Its like comparing chalk and cheese. The same is the case with Violent crime as well if the term is used as a catchall. The reason why Britain appears to have higher violent crime rates is again because the definitions are totally different. The British definitions are a LOT broader and include even quite minor crimes These would not be listed as Violent Crimes in the US, indeed many would be listed as misdemeanours if they are listed at all. While they carry no greater penalties in the UK they are listed as Violent in the statistics....
Assault in the UK is defined: "An assault is any act (and not mere omission to act) by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence. The term assault is often used to include a battery, which is committed by the intentional or reckless application of unlawful force to another person. Where there is a battery, the defendant should be charged with ‘assault by beating’: DPP v Little [1992] QB 645. Provided there has been an intentional or reckless application of unlawful force the offence will have been committed, however slight the force. necessarily
When I was a kid growing up in the UK in the 80's/90's I remember seeing more police on foot patrol in the neighbourhood. Would be a good thing if this was to return as it gives more reassurance. Would also like to see content based on your experiences please 👍
Crime is particularly low where I live in the UK and so I have never felt the need for more police. I am also proud of the fact that our police can work effectively without the need for guns. I feel much safer without guns being around by anyone, criminals or police.
Theres plenty of guns in the UK. You're just from an area where shootings and knife crime aren't a problem. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Shootings happen weekly in London and it's borough's
@@davifmcmonies2306 Sure, no country is perfect. But 2019 statistics show that there were 100 times less gun murders in the UK per 100,000 people than in the US. That is nationwide in both countries. I am sure there are parts of the US with little crime too, but it doesn't get around the fact that you are much safer in the UK.
@@darrencooke4207 being safer doesn't mean it doesn't exist! There's more guns than people in the US. Yet there's around 5\ million guns combined In the UK. I see where you're coming from but people seem to think all that happens in the UK is drinking tea and crumpets! That's not true.
@@davifmcmonies2306 Not sure what your point is. Are you seriously trying to say that the UK is just as dangerous as the US? The overall murder rate in the US is 5 people per 100,000. The rate in the UK is 1.2 per 100,000. Four times less. So just to be clear, statistics show you are four times less likely to be murdered in the UK that in the US. That's all I am trying to say. My initial post was just answering the question that was asked of us in the video. The statistics prove the point. Do you have anything to back up your point?
@@zxadf1581 I'll meet you halfway. Get more police officers from sitting behind desks and out on the beat. We could also do with employing some more cops.
We need police that will do their jobs. Doesn't matter how many there are if all they do is look a Twitter all day just to see if someone said something. Last time I saw them walking round my way I thought someone must have nicked their car!
It's everywhere. The local police station in the town over from me, which has a population of 90,000 people had only 10 officers in I think 2018. For the entire town.
Hi drunk Texan. I live in Ireland and I respect the cops over here so much for what you guys do. I've been a fan of your channel for sometime now and I also drink beer. Thank you for your service to helping stopping criminals. Much respect to you. Cheers🍺🍺
@@EaterOfBaconSandwiches no bob it's a legit view Some officers this is the case I would say it's rare enought not to be a issue tho ¿? But I don't think we need more they need better training and to be deployed in the right areas However I can only speak for the northwest However I imagine the London areas that this would not be the case London I imagine is very short on officers Most I have dealt with are very reasonable but given how many I have had to deal with with nothing on my record goes to show my point When I was young I got pulled up 18 times in one day because I had 4 other people in my car because you know driving round with a full car is so suspicious isn't it ¿? Even now I was pulled up last year I asked the office very nicely why I was pulled the answer was I can pull anyone I like I informed him I was aware that is only the case when undertaking random stop check otherwise there has to be suspicious action for them to just pull me when they where driving down the road The reply was that I drive an older car and that it's more likely for older cars to be stolen untaxed ect ect This is not a reason to pull me up The law states there has to be suspicious activity or undertaking planned random checks Regardless to how you look at it I was unfairly treated because of my passion for classic cars The car was in remarkable nick and no reason to believe that anything was amiss Several times in my life I could have pushed to have things taken to court for harassment and I would have won I still have the 18 stop tickets as a momento Not one charge for the 18 stops It's all wrong just wrong I'm 33 and have been stopped randomly around 10 times yet my dad who has drove all of his life while of age and has never had a random stop So there are thing that need sorting All this was at the same time my mother worked in a supermarket and pressed the panic button because of a firearm and it took them 4 and a half hours to respond the same day I was pulled once that day but you get my point The only time a police officer had cause to respond to me and my car was at a car cruise where I got a bit silly drifting with a friend in another car class driving to be fair but I accepted this with grace they where doing there job and this time the response was reasonable
Respect man, anyone who puts their life on the line for societies protection deserves praise. There are a lot of differences between US and UK policing mainly because of the different history, social and economic cultures of the two Countries, consequently direct comparisons are difficult to make in isolation. Thanks for the video and be careful out there. In the UK there are a lot of jobs where the pay falls between a band within a grade and progression though the band is dependent upon a successful annual assessment of your performance, this does not necessarily mean achieving quotas but increased experience and competency as an incentive to maintain progress. No experience with UK police salary system so I could be talking bollocks.
Congrats on 10k! (Also the coming out video, cop style) 😂 There's definitely not as much tension between the UK public and cops as America has, and the funding cuts has really lead to a critically low amount of workers that many want to see increased.
Yes in the U.K. the public want more cops , but for some reason our Government don’t want to spend the money on them. It’s just not the police forces up and down the U.K. that have faced cuts, it’s the ambulance, the Health service and the Fire services that our Government have made cuts to.
This was interesting. I`m from Birmingham (population a little over a million) and personally I`d like to see more police on the beat. More importantly though, I`d like to see the courts supporting the police more by handing down meaningful sentences to convicted criminals.
One of the reasons my daughter gave me for leaving the police was NFA this stands for no further action. She and her colleagues would do the work and then the CPS would decide it wasn’t in the public interest to proceed. And a lot of individuals that she dealt with were well aware that often things like anti social behaviour would often end up NFA yet outside of serious crimes this behaviour has the most impact on a community yet it would appear it’s the most difficult to prosecute. She now works in civy street for as she says the same money but less hassle. No getting spat at and treated like shit, sometimes by so called upstanding citizens and then those self same people screaming for help. This is why the police service is struggling to find appropriate recruits.
As a kid I remembered seeing police on the street in my local town. Now I rarely see an officer on foot. I would like to see more. I'm from Lincolnshire England.
You're so right the local police house was in my street until it was sold off,the new owners. kept the name and have called it the old police house and everyone knew him and you knew he knew everything 😂he was always there to sign your passprt and other documents and he would walk the roads early morning and late night. It is a shame it's all gone like our village doctors but as the population continues to grow it has become unsustainable,police and doctors used to be respected now it's not so much the case as they have much less time to be personal and attentive to our plights.👍
I'm also from Lincolnshire and remember when it was said that the quickest way to lose your driving licence was to make a complaint against a police officer
I live in a low crime area but, I’d still like to see more Police on the street. We have a fantastic community where I live. But what’s missing is.. the Police being part of our community. It would be nice to see the Police walking/ strolling down the street and interacting with the community. Like they use to do.
The problem with the "more bobbies on the beat" argument is that, while they may pick up some local intelligence, most of the time they're not achieving much apart from making us feel safer. They aren't actually preventing crime or arresting villains unless you count rounding-up drunks at closing time.
They won't because it will shatter the 'them & us' mentality they've cultivated over the last several years. They don't care about 'community', just the end-of-the-month stats.
Great video once again Mike and congrats on the 10K, you've earned it! I would recommend to you the UK TV show, "Police Interceptors" a slightly overdramatic but respectful insight into the more "exciting" aspects of British policing - much like the car chase videos you mentioned.
I am a senior citizen and grew up in London, lived in the States for 10 years and now live back in the UK out of London. What I see the difference between when I was young and now, is the respect level. Not just respect to police, but police to citizens. I think this is the same in USA. Which I believe you mentioned that citizens in US do not want to see more police. Probably UK need more police in the cities as knife crime and drugs are on the increase. I try to keep myself informed and in my opinion there are police that are not utilizing their time, stopping people for no reason and demonstrating authority, when not necessary. Years ago, you always knew who your local bobby was. It was a trusted person to go to. But at my age now, I would think seriously before calling for police help and if I lived in the States, I definitely would limit any contact with police. I have never been arrested or committed a crime, but there is little trust, even as a law abiding citizen. I wish the justice system would be tougher in UK. If the criminal is caught, tried and convicted, it needs to be a sentence to fit the crime. We are soft in this country.
The reason why we have so few police and a rising crime statistic is that for about 10 years the Conservative government has gone through austerity measures. One of these was the cutting of front line police officers. Now that people are complaining of rising crime they say will hire more police officers! Even if they recruit all they have promised it won’t be as much as they have got rid of!
Crime is lower now than in 2010. Agreed crime is now rising again, and it is due to austerity. However it is more due to the local councils having to cut preventative measures.
When Boris became Mayor of London, officers were cut and crime went down, since Khan, officers have gone up and crime is through the roof, what does that tell you
@@jakejake6791 if we hadn't had Blair and Brown in charge spending the country's money like a couple of WAGS on crack, we wouldn't have had to have drastic austerity measures, the country was coming out of austerity when COVID hit so we're now back to square one as Sunak has been throwing money around like confetti
@@mycatspethooman5590 indeed. It's the go to arrest excuse. But swearing itself isn't a crime.In fact I remember reading about a judge who told a policeman that he couldn't arrest someone for swearing because swearing was part of how some people express themselves and he couldn't reasonably claim that he was offended by swearing since he w ill have heard it on a daily basis.
Where I live, the local police station is operated on a part time basis, but they don't have actual opening times, if you get lifted you're taken 30 minutes out of the way, inconvenient for the next day to get home. Hope that made sense
I think in general, the UK has a higher opinion of its police force, whereas in the US it’s a lot more divisive. With BLM, the flaws of the system are being exposed, and obviously we have the same issues in the UK as well but not really to the same extent - probably helped a lot by the fact that our death rates are so much lower. It seems every week there’s a new story about a cop shooting an unarmed black person and it does make me glad that bobbies aren’t given guns
I have never ever any local police without at least a sidearm, more often than enough they used to carry semi-auto weapons but that is pretty rare now.
@louis george The police can not take any one to court to be prosecuted as they are only a third party, they can provide evidence only, people can only be prosecuted in criminal and motoring offences by either the Crown Prosecution Service or the Public prosecution Service.
@James Cooper what you are saying is totally false, just last year police in USA killed 60 unarmed people, also while it is true that more white people are killed compared to black ones you have to take into account that black people are only 13% of the population, so in proportion they get killed more than twice the rate, so yes there's a definite bias. At the same time no matter the race people killed by police in USA are way too many, this is because procedures are not what would be considered correct elsewhere and also because a better mental health assessment should be done. Some people are really good cops, others shouldn't ever be cops at all. Here get your infos: www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
I won £10 guessing your job. We do need more Poice in the UK. We are slowly getting them too. Most people here appreciate how difficult the job is and respect those that wear the uniform. Unfortunately there are some that have no respect for themselves never mind anyone else. Would love to hear about some of your experiences being an American copper. Congrats on your 10K.
The term "Bobby" comes from the abbreviation of Robert (Bob). The nickname was adopted by the British railways too. The first signalmen, originally called Railway Policemen (leading to the nickname of 'Bobby'), were employed in the early 19th century and used flags to communicate with each other and train drivers, and hourglasses for the purpose of Time Interval Working between stations.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's,we had a local Bobby,he knew everyone,all the children and especially their parents,there was respect for our Bobby,he gave and received both Christmas and birthday cards to the locals on his beat. They also went by the nickname PEELERS.from Robert Peel.
There nneds to be a mix of both kinds. A traditional officer will have the local knowledge to track down & arrest a local drug dealer, but to track down his main supplier's money laundering operation, would take squad of 'degree officers'.
@louis george My point was that graduates are not inferior police officers. Sure they still have a lot to learn, nut then so do all new police officers. Similarly, non- graduate police officers aren't too dumb to learn new skills on the job. We need both types of officer to tackle ever more sophisticated criminals, as well as dealing with everyday policing. It just annoys me that people are so quick to denegrate young people who went to university (and young people who didn't, for that matter). I didn't go to university either & am closer to your father's age than yours, so don't have an axe to grind. Regardless, I wish your father a long & happy retirement.
No, it was my bad. I made it look like non-graduate officers are incapable of of adapting to advanced policing methods, which is patently untrue. Good luck with your degree, I'm sure it won't be a waste of time in the end.
The Bow Street Runners enforced the law in a small area of London. They were self employed, sort of a halfway house between a bounty hunter & a police officer.
This was a good video and I'd like to see more about day to day living in Texas as well as what it's like being a cop. I think we get a distorted view if American police from TV shows and the news (only the bad ones get on the news).
Big respect to you sir staying in the force when everyone just seems to be hating coppers. Good job and God speed. You just earned yourself a new subscriber and my respect. To your questions. Yes, majority would like more police here, but we are getting the anti-police sentiment from the US slowly. But mostly, yes, people still support more police officers on the streets. Furthermore, when they mean ‘work hard’ that’s at the same rank for years of good service. That is without promotions. With the higher ranks you can earn a pretty penny. I think a starting salary for an Inspector is about 50-60k disregarding years of service.
I'm not sure we need any MORE police officers in the UK. However, the deployment of police officers and the amount of face to face policing to administrative work has become off kilter, in my opinion. Where I live, there is a MASSIVE police station, and there are hundreds of cars in the station car park whenever I pass by. I haven't actually SEEN any police officers on patrol (either on foot of in vehicles) on my street, neighbouring streets or my town centre, in well over a year. So, where are they and what are they doing? It's not as if there is a lack of crime or antisocial behaviour where I live, so are there streets and towns locally where these police employees who park their cars at the local station patrol? The answer is, of course, no. Talk to ANY UK Bobby and they'll tell you that the majority of their time is spent doing administrative work, like every other population centred profession in this country.
There's a drive in McDonalds near me and there's nearly always 3-4 police cars with crews parked in the car park. Always lots of police in my local Tesco buying biscuits and snacks.
We have a massive police station in Colchester, 122k people in the town, but the station is closed most of the time and a lot of the crime we are getting is being shipped out of London so is city level in a town environment. We need more police but the admin does need to be reduced.
yeah, our police are far too busy, they often work longer and much harder than is right. they try to be as approachable as posible so if you need them you are comfortable going to them, they are even trained to give directions to tourists in london. but we do need more, there are very few beet bobbies now.... too reactive and not proactive.
I agree, the reduced police numbers mean more pressure on resolving crime stats and less on being there and community work, crime prevention, just keeping the peace by being there rather than responding. I never previously thought of our UK police as 'law enforcement' as my perceived focus was on them keeping us safe.
I'd love to see your reaction to the 70s uk cop show 'The Sweeney' 🇬🇧 it's an absolute classic and very real for the times, plus all the stunts are real as health and safety didn't exist back then... 🤣
They tried to make the Sweeney as realistic as possible. The makers of the Sweeney once asked some police what they thought of it. They said it was good except for one thing....the police in real life didn't always 'get their man'. That is why in some episodes the criminal(s) don't get caught.😊😎
In England when I was young most villages had a resident policeman, without radio links and mostly a bicycle for local patrol! Now many of the police move around by car. We do have some armed police, but they are not on general duties. A single force can cover one county or a group of counties/cities. During active duties they can ignore borders and arrested people might be taken back to area of initial crime or in capture area. A police force can be authorised to arrest someone who is then transferred. Bow Street Court is now in new building as Westminster Magistrates Court.
@@ToothbrushMan and they cut those numbers because the previous government left the country in such a terrible financial state. Never forget WHY austerity was implemented. Yes it sucked but if that government had handled the countrys finances better then austerity would not have been necessary.
@@mojojojo11811 Are you seriously going to blame the previous government for a financial crash that was a direct result of the “Big Bang” deregulation of the banking/financial industry by Thatchers Tory government!
I think it would be interesting to hear your opinion or reaction on this episode of "The Norden": ruclips.net/video/jbM9uCxEJDM/видео.html Police captain Peter Whittingham from LAPD visits Finland, Sweden and Norway. How are suspects treated? What equipment do Nordic police officers carry, and how are they allowed to use it? What role does the police have in the Nordics? English subtitles. Host: Joakim Rundt. Links to other episodes of "The Norden": Prisons: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfEsz8... Religion: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-kANR... Gender: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMdfQ2... (C) Finnish Broadcasting Company Yle 2014. All rights reserved.
"Works Hard" refers to a satisfactory job performance which will then earn you an annual pay increment. That is separate from the annual pay rises that (supposedly) covers inflation. From memory there 7 pay points and you move up to the next pay point each 1 year of service until you reach the top for your rank. So a Constable with the full qualifying length of service would be on £41,130 ($58,000). Getting promoted moves you to the pay scales for your new rank. In the UK you also get a state pension when you get to 65-70 (depending on when you were born as it is moving up). It is currently £137 a week (but there are extras that people can qualify for). Of course the provision of healthcare for your entire life makes a big difference when comparing wages (the average cost per working person is about £800 a year and covers everyone UK resident. Taxation often ends up pretty much the same and while housing is expensive other things can be cheaper in the UK.
The things in CSI that they find as evidence with tweezers for the microscope! are ALWAYS so big you dont' need a microscope and would stand out a mile without the careful scrutiny they pretend. I suppose it would only work for the cameras this way. Yes the react you ask for would be interesting.
I called the police when a complete nutcase threw a brick through my neighbours window. They took a while to arrive turns out he drove off and murdered a man round the corner. Look it up Walton on Thames murder outside marks and Spencer.
The 'works hard' comment is hilarious, he's referring to our yearly increments, in your first 7 years as a PC you get a pay rise every year. You get paid higher when you get promoted more than the figure they qouted. Your yearly increment can be stalled if you have unsatisfactory performance
I’ve been to university, served in the military and then ended up in prison for reasons I find terrible. The fact is you respect the individual in any encounter. You seem a top bloke. God bless ❤️
II am a retired cop since 2006,I think from your video I gather we basically do the same job. In fact I finished up a Crime Scene examiner for a couple of years. The biggest difference would be the firearms issue but as you say an armed unit is supposed to be able to respond in 20 minutes. With regard to popularity, we have our fair share of naysayers and dissenters and the government has always been shy of giving the police too much power; they would rather stay in the driving seat in parliament legislating un-enforcable new laws
I would gladly pay more tax for the police and health care, to keep our kingdom safe and healthy. So good on you, Texan, you should be proud to help your fellow Americans.
In the UK you need 3 or more GCSE in maths and English to even get an interview. If accepted you then have to do a 3 year degree apprenticeship whilst working full time. The starting pay is £21,000 which rises over the years after you pass your degree.
Ha Ha!! I was about to make exactly the same comment. My nephew will be starting his appreticeship with Hants constabulary very soon. I do believe that this three year period can be shortened if you have spent more than 12 months as either a PCSO or a Special.
14:32 - especially if they are the doughnuts made by the former DCA factory where I live. The mother of one of my school friends worked there and used to bring home samples from time to time - they were to die for.
Anyone who puts on a uniform and risks their life everyday is a good guy in my book, regardless of opinions on policing. In the uk, personally, I’ve never needed or even called the police at 31 years old so the outcry for more police isn’t from me.
Just to say… that a police officer carrying a gun as a matter of course helps to deter an assault against him or her is clear. To attribute that to “respect” as you suggested in the video is, in my opinion, a mischaracterisation. That’s more about “fear”. It’s really example of quite a fundamental difference between the two policing systems, at least with respect to how they are supposed to work. The UK system is structurally about policing by consent of the public. It’s not really about “enforcement” (we really don’t talk much about the concept of “law enforcement” over here - it’s really an American turn of phrase), a display of strength or inspiring “fear”. Sure, it doesn’t always work how it’s supposed to, and sometimes the police does overstep its bounds, officers do things they’re not supposed to and the police is not universally popular over here either. But the core of the system that most people (the majority of the police included) are trying to pull everything back to is this concept of policing by consent.
I really enjoyed this video and it was interesting seeing your reaction to the video. Obviously the video is just slightly out dated by a few years but I might be able to answer some questions for you. I work within one of the police services within the UK and in regards to some of your questions I would say the general view was that people wanted more police officers due to the rising crime. However, this is something that became really noticeable since 2016 I would say when many budget cuts occurred to police services. Many lost almost half of their budget which resulted in less officers, less equipment, less resources and having to remove certain roles which weren't absolutely necessary but made things easier and more efficient both for police and for citizens. As of recently the numbers of officers is slightly rising due to Boris Johnson's appeal for 20,000 new police officers to be recruited nationally. About the assaults yes it is quite true. Officers get assaulted very often but I'm not sure exactly why. In the past month I've been spat on, almost bitten, scratched, grabbed and pulled as well as had some scrapes and bruises from people resisting. In regards to the hours it is said on average 40 hours a week but you usually work morning, late and then night shift. And usually about 6 days working then 3 or 4 days off and then back to start. Hope this helps with some questions! Again great vid!
Yes, the UK definitely wants and needs more police. (in my experiences) the response times are slow, they do not attend at all for some small crimes and instead just give crime reference numbers, they dont patrol enough as they are caught up in paperwork or caught up with trivial things due to low staff number etc.
Agency, why agency? Thought they are police departments lol Now you've braved that topic how about a jim jefferies gun control pt 1 and 2 reaction . Texas does have the most guns and loosest gun laws.
Threatening, insulting or spitting at a police officer counts as assault in the UK. Some even charge you with assault for swearing at them. The assault figures are stupidly inflated.
Hey Mike, I was in the livestream a couple months ago where you told the few of us that you were a police officer, congrats on 10k keep up the good work
“Bobbies” is still a common slang for cops around the UK. Less used is “rozzers”, which also is tied to Sir Robert Peel. UK is also one of the four countries in the world where police are generally unarmed, But have separate armed response units, deployed where deemed necessary. (The other three countries are Ireland, New Zealand, and Norway.)
Regarding your question at 7:20. Yes, we definitely need more police over here. I rarely see police cars on the roads where I live. Back in early 2020, I stayed in Wayne, New Jersey for two weeks and I saw more police in those two weeks in New Jersey and New York than I saw in the year and four months since in the UK.
I’m a Brit. I think the consensus here on police numbers differs. Within cities, where most organised or violent crime takes place, I’d say the consensus is that we need more police. But in more rural and quieter areas, less consensus there. That being said, whenever a politician says “we need to be tougher on crime, more police!” they’re generally more accepted.
I lived in the US for about 10 years. my GF is from Houston and we now live in the UK. My observation would be that the approach of the police is different. In the UK the approach is more tolerant and the police tend to try to deescalate a situation in order to resolve it. In the US from what I observed the police wanted to enforce the law as they understand it. I think it comes down to are officers there as law enforcement or as peace officer... neither way is right or wrong I never had issues anywhere in the US (except for misunderstanding my accent) or UK... I would say finding the balance between the two approaches is needed and that's the challenge. Great Video
When I was younger growing up in the late 80’s and 90’s we had neighbourhood policing - maybe see a few of them walking around just to make sure no trouble was happening. That’s been gone a good few years - we need that back
Also I appreciate it must be a tough time for you boys (and gals of course) in Blue across the Pond so sending all the love and support from the UK 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
I live in busy village in the south of England and we don’t have any local police enforcement near by, we have two community wardens that go around the village part time and if we have an “emergency” the police will come from up to 15 miles away.
The Bow Street Runners were the first organised group of law enforcement officers but they weren't police in the modern sense of the word. They operated out of the Magistrate's Court in Bow Street, near Covent Garden, under the control of Henry and Jack Fielding who were the Magistrates of the Court. Henry Fielding is much better known as a playwright and novelist. He wrote one of the earliest novels, "Tom Jones" (1749), which is still ranked at #5 on the Guardian's list of the greatest novels ever written.
England and Wales are in the process of recruiting an additional 20,000 police officers. In the UK the prison service is completely separate, UK police officers aren't jailors (police cells are only used for very brief periods of time). There is no high school diploma in the UK but the police only recruit 1 person from 10 applicants.
You could react to The Norden - Police. A nordic documentary with a californian officer brought to tour the police forces here in the Nordic countries and experience the culture shock. Available on RUclips :) Also plenty of episodes from Poliisit and Lainvalvojat available here for footage from ordinary police officers and the national bureau of investigation respectively.
Legally, in the UK, the term "assault" includes verbal assaults, so it's an assault if someone threatens an officer.
Being a bit mean is now assault.
That is not quite true. It's true that in England speaking can amount to assault if a person apprehends harm. However, courts have also ruled that police officers get sworn at and threatened on a daily basis and can't reasonably maintain a fear of harm unless the words are accompanied by a tangible threat above and beyond words spoken.
@@peterd788 No verbal assault. It is an offence to use threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them. So no tangible threat is required that would be less a matter of law and more a matter of opinion. No idea why you need to lie about that but please don't.
@@crowbar9566 Yep, they have to make out they're the victims, somehow. Pity that when someone threatens a member of the public, esp a woman, the police do little or nothing.
Thats not how the police record assaults though
1970’s Scotland, every village had local Bobby who lived in the community and knew everyone. They’d walk the streets, chat and give advice and reprimand when required. Nowadays in Scotland, I’ve seen no bobbies on the beat for many years other than in the city. I’d be shocked to see a cop just patrolling the streets on foot, but sorely missed.
Same in England, we use to have a village Bobby. He had his own police station and house attached to it.
It's down to funding, I mean in the 80s local police stations were open like all day like other station, but now you have to go to the major ones
@Bonnie Hopkins that's exactly the type of house I grew up in - my sisters and I used to play in the police station annex when it was raining outside - that was in the early 70s, then we moved to another area and our house was right next door to the police station
We get a volunteer policeman walking our local area.
Putting them in cars was a huge mistake.
I live on the outskirts of Glasgow ( Scotland ) I think we could do with less traffic police , but more police patrolling the streets and schemes surrounding the City ,which can get very violent and in certain areas overrun with young gangs of wee pricks . 🏴
Yup, traffic is fines and money but dejected youth can go fight themselves, this government sucks soo hard! ☹
All patrolling officers can issues traffic offences but when looking at the capacity of fully fledged traffic officers within Strathclyde there are only 2/3 groups at any one time, there most certainly should be more police employed unfortunately there is very little appeal to being a officer, and you find the role appeals to individuals who wish to hold and implement additional power.
Don't know how it is in Scotland but where I live in the UK it's so dangerous here people don't care and people just hurl abuse etc for even slightest thing
@@Tim_3100 Have you tried marriage counselling?
I think you'll find bad driving accounts for more deaths than gang violence...
I am a retired (Due to health not age) UK police constable. The UK and US police came from the same thinking but went very different routes. In the UK we police by consent mostly whereas the US do law enforcement
In the UK the police uphold the law, in America they enforce the law.
@@martinavery1609not anymore they dont rainbow police dancing at the LGBT whatever ...... instead of dealing with crimes like burglary, violence etc .
@@DC3Refom thats not even a coherent sentence
I'm from the north east of England and there is a lot of respect for the police. they do a great job
Not sure where you live, but in Boro there's very little respect for the police.
The issue we've got is social media in my opinion. People recording the arrests live on the platforms, it then draws crowds, which then leads to more officers having to turn up, which then makes them seem like they're coming in force, when in actuality all they're doing is back up for a bad situation for the police.
In north Wales most people don't trust the old bill
Yeah, not really dude, far better than it used to be though.
Toon Toon
Apart when you punch police horses;)
@@jamiescott7039 definitely not advisable those horses are vicious
The Bow Street Runners were named after a street in London called Bow Street and presumably runners because they were on foot, so ran after criminals or to the scene of a crime. It's now a museum that is open to the public, but until recently there was still a police station in Bow Street. There's also a crime museum at new Scotland Yard which is not open to the public which contains memorabilia from notorious cases. No perhaps if you contacted Scotland yard's PR department you might get a visit as a law enforcement officer from another country.
Personally in the uk i think people want more police. Yes they are annoying to deal with when they mess with cancelling your party or getting arrested on a night out. However you always go to the police when YOU get harmed in any way like getting mugged, your house or car getting robbed etc...that is unless you are a shady individual yourself that doesn't want police involved for your own benefit.
Everyone hate the police until you need them. I have total respect for the majority of them they have a lot of shit to deal with and if one cop dose something bad you all get blamed. Ones that abuse there power and trust in the public tho deserve to be put inside with the people they arrested un supervised
In my area we say police are always there when you dont need them but are rare when you do
@@crimsonshadow3089 spot on mate! 🤣
We are 20k cops down since the Tories took power and they are supposed to be the party of law and order. These days the only cops you see are in cars or on a horse at a riot. You rarely see them on the street so it's not surprising that knife crime in some areas is going up 🙁
@@Jordan-bg7xc People generally respect the police until they have to deal with them.
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Upvote from the UK, purely for the beer comment! 👍
Also, in terms of the salary element. Bare in mind that in the US the number of annual leave days per annum is usually much lower than in the UK and a large chunk of an American's salary (especially if they have a family e.g. spouse and 2 kids) will go on hard decent healthcare insurance, compared to the UK where the National Health Service is funded by taxation so no true need for paying additional medical insurance (although options are available so people can go private if they choose).
He's back, our favourite Texan! 👍🇬🇧
Personally I want see more Police patrolling the streets
@@Creteliz bring back Bobbies on the beat!
Yeaa boii love from Middlesbrough UK 🇬🇧
Assault in the UK can be something like spitting at an officer.
Or even just verbal abuse, maybe even just disagreeing with an officer these days
Yer but come on if you spit at the officer you deserve what would come
Spitting is a criminal offence in the UK regardless of who it is directed at, at one point spitting on the ground was also a criminal offence.
@@georgebarnes8163 any medical illness relating to the production of phlegm by the body is exempt of this providing it is done in decent manor
IE not the middle of the path
IE not spat out in a manor that would cause any spray effect
In short do it respectfully and you should always be ok
@@madyottoyotto3055 not the case, many local councils prosecute for spitting in public places regardless of the manner it was done or where it was done.
If you want to see UK cops in action the documentary series "Police Interceptors" follows frontline officers, and it would be interesting to hear your thoughts about it.
its not accurate what so ever though
Yes this, its a good show
@@benkirby lol u high
@scott porter who cares it is entertainment
That is not what real policing is like in the UK. It's nothing more than a PR show for the police.
Yep more are needed, especially in the investigative side. A lot of reported crimes such as burglaries get dropped due to lack of resource.
Yes its true most people in the UK think there is not enough police in uk most of are police stations in the UK have been close this is mostly in rural area of the UK
And yet they keep voting for the government that has cut police numbers in the past 10 years. Turkeys voting for Christmas.
@@boskee so ture shame there is no one else to vote for
They are just thugs in a uniform
@@meatfeast335 ‘costumes’
@@meatfeast335 That's a bit all encompassing.
The US talks about "law enforcement"; in the UK, the police are charged to "keep the Queen's peace", police by consent, not enforcing the law.
That is a major difference in approach.
The British police do not police by consent like the US they enforce the law rather than the propaganda try being honest.
@@blackpuppy5645 "Policing by consent indicates that the legitimacy of policing in the eyes of the public is based upon a general consensus of support that follows from transparency about their powers, their integrity in exercising those powers, and their accountability for doing so.”
In theory, but not in practice. They even have the same police siren sounds.... and tasers .... and pepper spray..... and retractable batons. Both eat doughnuts
The queens peace lol fuck off
@@sgbh8874 I live in a medium sized English town about a mile from the local police station
Halfway between is a petrol station/convenience store. Frequently there is a police car parked out front while one officer goes in to buy - yes, doughnuts! When did this become the international police snack of choice?
I'm a Brit, so don't want to have you cancelled dude lol. I'm also ex army so can appreciate another man who serves. Thanks for your service.
Yes, we want more police in the uk. Crime is rising massively and is directly linked to the fall in the number of officers on the street.
Thank YOU for your service Graham.
Yes, we want more, but we also need to make sure they're used correctly. Cracking down on protests that are 'likely to cause annoyance', or going after kids for making bad jokes on twitter... that's not what police are for, but it is what their role is being changed into.
I think what we really want is more Police on the streets walking the beat as it was called so a lot of petty crime is stop before it happens
"Crime is rising massively and is directly linked to the fall in the number of officers on the street."
Er. No. It's a popular myth but "crime" in the UK is not rising "massively". It's a popular trope, especially in the UK newspapers, but crime stats are far to nuanced to say they are "rising" or "falling" as a whole. Some types of crime are rising, some are falling. Crime is changing as it has throughout history. The BCS has more to say on this.
@@ToothbrushMan You're right, however it doesn't sell tabloids!
I live in the UK and I haven't seen a cop for at least 5 years.When I was a kid we had a local cop everywhere and they were on our case when we were scrumping apples (sneaking in peoples gardens to steal the apples off their trees).
Part of me feels like the assault statistic might have something to do with what we define as assault compared to you guys, idk.
Yes, it includes both physical and verbal assault
It is, the Met and the FBI define Assault completely differently, enough so that comparing numbers of Assaults between the UK and US is meaningless. Its like comparing chalk and cheese. The same is the case with Violent crime as well if the term is used as a catchall. The reason why Britain appears to have higher violent crime rates is again because the definitions are totally different. The British definitions are a LOT broader and include even quite minor crimes These would not be listed as Violent Crimes in the US, indeed many would be listed as misdemeanours if they are listed at all. While they carry no greater penalties in the UK they are listed as Violent in the statistics....
Assault in the UK is defined: "An assault is any act (and not mere omission to act) by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to suffer or apprehend immediate unlawful violence. The term assault is often used to include a battery, which is committed by the intentional or reckless application of unlawful force to another person. Where there is a battery, the defendant should be charged with ‘assault by beating’: DPP v Little [1992] QB 645. Provided there has been an intentional or reckless application of unlawful force the offence will have been committed, however slight the force. necessarily
I agree. Assault can mean verbal, spitting, police hurt whilst making an arrest etc.
Isn't it a crime to hurt someone's feelings in Britain ?
When I was a kid growing up in the UK in the 80's/90's I remember seeing more police on foot patrol in the neighbourhood. Would be a good thing if this was to return as it gives more reassurance. Would also like to see content based on your experiences please 👍
I’m a Brit living in the US and you’re my favourite Texan. We don’t want you cancelled.
Who would cancel him? 🤔
Crime is particularly low where I live in the UK and so I have never felt the need for more police. I am also proud of the fact that our police can work effectively without the need for guns. I feel much safer without guns being around by anyone, criminals or police.
Theres plenty of guns in the UK. You're just from an area where shootings and knife crime aren't a problem. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Shootings happen weekly in London and it's borough's
@@davifmcmonies2306 Sure, no country is perfect. But 2019 statistics show that there were 100 times less gun murders in the UK per 100,000 people than in the US. That is nationwide in both countries. I am sure there are parts of the US with little crime too, but it doesn't get around the fact that you are much safer in the UK.
@@darrencooke4207 being safer doesn't mean it doesn't exist! There's more guns than people in the US. Yet there's around 5\ million guns combined In the UK. I see where you're coming from but people seem to think all that happens in the UK is drinking tea and crumpets! That's not true.
@@darrencooke4207 now check the knife crime stats...
@@davifmcmonies2306 Not sure what your point is. Are you seriously trying to say that the UK is just as dangerous as the US? The overall murder rate in the US is 5 people per 100,000. The rate in the UK is 1.2 per 100,000. Four times less. So just to be clear, statistics show you are four times less likely to be murdered in the UK that in the US. That's all I am trying to say. My initial post was just answering the question that was asked of us in the video. The statistics prove the point. Do you have anything to back up your point?
There are not enough police officers in the UK, we need a lot more.
theres enough but their not on the streets. if they were on the streets that would help. (not looking for an argument)
@@zxadf1581 I'll meet you halfway. Get more police officers from sitting behind desks and out on the beat.
We could also do with employing some more cops.
@@captainadams8565 completely agreed
No we do not
We need police that will do their jobs. Doesn't matter how many there are if all they do is look a Twitter all day just to see if someone said something. Last time I saw them walking round my way I thought someone must have nicked their car!
Good on you mate & thank you for your service
I don't know about the whole UK but in London we do need more cops.
Make London Safe Again
It's everywhere. The local police station in the town over from me, which has a population of 90,000 people had only 10 officers in I think 2018.
For the entire town.
Our local police station is over an hour away..
North west is okay for police in my personal experience but I live in a pretty neutral area
We've enough coppers, it's the priorities and how they work that is all wrong.
Hi drunk Texan. I live in Ireland and I respect the cops over here so much for what you guys do. I've been a fan of your channel for sometime now and I also drink beer. Thank you for your service to helping stopping criminals. Much respect to you. Cheers🍺🍺
Thanks! I appreciate it!
We need more Police in the UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Is that an invitation to Tex to come?! 🤣
We certainly bloody do. 🏴
@@EaterOfBaconSandwiches Everything alright bob?
@@EaterOfBaconSandwiches no bob it's a legit view
Some officers this is the case I would say it's rare enought not to be a issue tho ¿?
But I don't think we need more they need better training and to be deployed in the right areas
However I can only speak for the northwest
However I imagine the London areas that this would not be the case
London I imagine is very short on officers
Most I have dealt with are very reasonable but given how many I have had to deal with
with nothing on my record goes to show my point
When I was young I got pulled up 18 times in one day because I had 4 other people in my car because you know driving round with a full car is so suspicious isn't it ¿?
Even now I was pulled up last year
I asked the office very nicely why I was pulled the answer was I can pull anyone I like
I informed him I was aware that is only the case when undertaking random stop check otherwise there has to be suspicious action for them to just pull me when they where driving down the road
The reply was that I drive an older car and that it's more likely for older cars to be stolen untaxed ect ect
This is not a reason to pull me up
The law states there has to be suspicious activity or undertaking planned random checks
Regardless to how you look at it I was unfairly treated because of my passion for classic cars
The car was in remarkable nick and no reason to believe that anything was amiss
Several times in my life I could have pushed to have things taken to court for harassment and I would have won
I still have the 18 stop tickets as a momento
Not one charge for the 18 stops
It's all wrong just wrong
I'm 33 and have been stopped randomly around 10 times yet my dad who has drove all of his life while of age and has never had a random stop
So there are thing that need sorting
All this was at the same time my mother worked in a supermarket and pressed the panic button because of a firearm and it took them 4 and a half hours to respond the same day I was pulled once that day but you get my point
The only time a police officer had cause to respond to me and my car was at a car cruise where I got a bit silly drifting with a friend in another car class driving to be fair but I accepted this with grace they where doing there job and this time the response was reasonable
Where in the UK do you live
I doubt you are qualified to speak for us all
I am bad with words and don't mean that to sound short or bad in anyway
Respect man, anyone who puts their life on the line for societies protection deserves praise. There are a lot of differences between US and UK policing mainly because of the different history, social and economic cultures of the two Countries, consequently direct comparisons are difficult to make in isolation. Thanks for the video and be careful out there.
In the UK there are a lot of jobs where the pay falls between a band within a grade and progression though the band is dependent upon a successful annual assessment of your performance, this does not necessarily mean achieving quotas but increased experience and competency as an incentive to maintain progress. No experience with UK police salary system so I could be talking bollocks.
Congrats on 10k! (Also the coming out video, cop style) 😂
There's definitely not as much tension between the UK public and cops as America has, and the funding cuts has really lead to a critically low amount of workers that many want to see increased.
Yes in the U.K. the public want more cops , but for some reason our Government don’t want to spend the money on them. It’s just not the police forces up and down the U.K. that have faced cuts, it’s the ambulance, the Health service and the Fire services that our Government have made cuts to.
If the government wasn't corrupt and the rich and big corporations paid their taxes there would be more than money to go round
This was interesting. I`m from Birmingham (population a little over a million) and personally I`d like to see more police on the beat. More importantly though, I`d like to see the courts supporting the police more by handing down meaningful sentences to convicted criminals.
I'm from Manchester and I feel the same like to see less arseholes and more police (gtr manchester 2.3 million)
One of the reasons my daughter gave me for leaving the police was NFA this stands for no further action. She and her colleagues would do the work and then the CPS would decide it wasn’t in the public interest to proceed. And a lot of individuals that she dealt with were well aware that often things like anti social behaviour would often end up NFA yet outside of serious crimes this behaviour has the most impact on a community yet it would appear it’s the most difficult to prosecute. She now works in civy street for as she says the same money but less hassle. No getting spat at and treated like shit, sometimes by so called upstanding citizens and then those self same people screaming for help. This is why the police service is struggling to find appropriate recruits.
Uk police are so incredibly understaffed and desperately need more funding, more officers and more support
Thank the Tories for that.
Go ask borris wtf is going on tories out forever
As a kid I remembered seeing police on the street in my local town. Now I rarely see an officer on foot. I would like to see more.
I'm from Lincolnshire England.
The local Bobby who would know everyone in their area and be respected completely is lost in history unfortunately.
You're so right the local police house was in my street until it was sold off,the new owners. kept the name and have called it the old police house and everyone knew him and you knew he knew everything 😂he was always there to sign your passprt and other documents and he would walk the roads early morning and late night. It is a shame it's all gone like our village doctors but as the population continues to grow it has become unsustainable,police and doctors used to be respected now it's not so much the case as they have much less time to be personal and attentive to our plights.👍
I'm also from Lincolnshire and remember when it was said that the quickest way to lose your driving licence was to make a complaint against a police officer
Where in Lincolnshire, I used to live in coningsby/tattershal about 5 years ago and it's small af
@@dominicbarstow1450 near RAFC cranwell, I was at conningsby on Monday watching the BBMF and the fast jets
in 2010 when Theresa may was home secretary she reduced the police force of England and wales by 20,000 we need those officers back.
I live in a low crime area but, I’d still like to see more Police on the street. We have a fantastic community where I live. But what’s missing is.. the Police being part of our community. It would be nice to see the Police walking/ strolling down the street and interacting with the community. Like they use to do.
Id settle for them having enough personnel to investigate burglaries
The problem with the "more bobbies on the beat" argument is that, while they may pick up some local intelligence, most of the time they're not achieving much apart from making us feel safer. They aren't actually preventing crime or arresting villains unless you count rounding-up drunks at closing time.
They won't because it will shatter the 'them & us' mentality they've cultivated over the last several years.
They don't care about 'community', just the end-of-the-month stats.
I live in Cornwall So also a lot worse crime area that I would like to see some more police walking around.
Congratulations on 10k. Remember assaults is a broad term, including from verbal.
Generally we want more police.
Now the next question we all wanna know is... Do you like doughnuts though? 😂
Of course I do!!! 😋
@@DrunkTexanSays Haha, someone had to ask!
Awesome video man. Congrats on the 10k as you more than deserve it. Awesome job reveal and analysis on the video you reacted to.
Thanks brother!
Great video once again Mike and congrats on the 10K, you've earned it!
I would recommend to you the UK TV show, "Police Interceptors" a slightly overdramatic but respectful insight into the more "exciting" aspects of British policing - much like the car chase videos you mentioned.
Yeahh do this!^^ I wanna know how techniques/manoeuvres differ.
I will check it out
Yeah def check it out
Yo man. Love your reaction videos. Your honest reaction is priceless.
Congrats Mike on 10k, and YES we do need more police in the UK
Thank you kindly ma'am!
I am a senior citizen and grew up in London, lived in the States for 10 years and now live back in the UK out of London. What I see the difference between when I was young and now, is the respect level. Not just respect to police, but police to citizens. I think this is the same in USA. Which I believe you mentioned that citizens in US do not want to see more police. Probably UK need more police in the cities as knife crime and drugs are on the increase. I try to keep myself informed and in my opinion there are police that are not utilizing their time, stopping people for no reason and demonstrating authority, when not necessary. Years ago, you always knew who your local bobby was. It was a trusted person to go to. But at my age now, I would think seriously before calling for police help and if I lived in the States, I definitely would limit any contact with police. I have never been arrested or committed a crime, but there is little trust, even as a law abiding citizen. I wish the justice system would be tougher in UK. If the criminal is caught, tried and convicted, it needs to be a sentence to fit the crime. We are soft in this country.
The reason why we have so few police and a rising crime statistic is that for about 10 years the Conservative government has gone through austerity measures. One of these was the cutting of front line police officers. Now that people are complaining of rising crime they say will hire more police officers! Even if they recruit all they have promised it won’t be as much as they have got rid of!
Crime is lower now than in 2010. Agreed crime is now rising again, and it is due to austerity. However it is more due to the local councils having to cut preventative measures.
When Boris became Mayor of London, officers were cut and crime went down, since Khan, officers have gone up and crime is through the roof, what does that tell you
You misspelled ‘Labour’
Your point will be ignored by Tory fans who keep voting in the cons to fix the cuts they created and carry on
@@jakejake6791 if we hadn't had Blair and Brown in charge spending the country's money like a couple of WAGS on crack, we wouldn't have had to have drastic austerity measures, the country was coming out of austerity when COVID hit so we're now back to square one as Sunak has been throwing money around like confetti
Assault can be something like knocking a Bobby's helmet off or swearing at them so the figure is potentially misleading.
damn, I figured assault needs months of siege a lot of soldiers, knights and mercenaries. The attack to actually take the castle.
Yeh, I believe that UK police are more likely to be punched while on the job but significantly less likely to be shot at...
it's not illegal to swear.
@@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim swear at a Bobby and they'll arrest you for breaching the peace.
@@mycatspethooman5590 indeed. It's the go to arrest excuse. But swearing itself isn't a crime.In fact I remember reading about a judge who told a policeman that he couldn't arrest someone for swearing because swearing was part of how some people express themselves and he couldn't reasonably claim that he was offended by swearing since he w ill have heard it on a daily basis.
Congratulations on 10k, that’s exactly what I’d think you’d work as
Thanks prez! Lol
@@DrunkTexanSays no problem sir
@@DrunkTexanSays Thoughts on Texas importing via aircraft radio active fracking water ?? the risks are astronomical if something goes bad...
Where I live, the local police station is operated on a part time basis, but they don't have actual opening times, if you get lifted you're taken 30 minutes out of the way, inconvenient for the next day to get home. Hope that made sense
Yes, we need more police officers visible on the street in the UK. It makes for a safer and closer community.
I think in general, the UK has a higher opinion of its police force, whereas in the US it’s a lot more divisive. With BLM, the flaws of the system are being exposed, and obviously we have the same issues in the UK as well but not really to the same extent - probably helped a lot by the fact that our death rates are so much lower. It seems every week there’s a new story about a cop shooting an unarmed black person and it does make me glad that bobbies aren’t given guns
I have never ever any local police without at least a sidearm, more often than enough they used to carry semi-auto weapons but that is pretty rare now.
@louis george The police prosecute no-one in the UK, that is not their job.
@louis george The police can not take any one to court to be prosecuted as they are only a third party, they can provide evidence only, people can only be prosecuted in criminal and motoring offences by either the Crown Prosecution Service or the Public prosecution Service.
@James Cooper what you are saying is totally false, just last year police in USA killed 60 unarmed people, also while it is true that more white people are killed compared to black ones you have to take into account that black people are only 13% of the population, so in proportion they get killed more than twice the rate, so yes there's a definite bias. At the same time no matter the race people killed by police in USA are way too many, this is because procedures are not what would be considered correct elsewhere and also because a better mental health assessment should be done. Some people are really good cops, others shouldn't ever be cops at all.
Here get your infos: www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
I won £10 guessing your job. We do need more Poice in the UK. We are slowly getting them too. Most people here appreciate how difficult the job is and respect those that wear the uniform. Unfortunately there are some that have no respect for themselves never mind anyone else. Would love to hear about some of your experiences being an American copper. Congrats on your 10K.
The term "Bobby" comes from the abbreviation of Robert (Bob). The nickname was adopted by the British railways too. The first signalmen, originally called Railway Policemen (leading to the nickname of 'Bobby'), were employed in the early 19th century and used flags to communicate with each other and train drivers, and hourglasses for the purpose of Time Interval Working between stations.
In my area of London the police don't eat doughnuts they frequent kebab shops. 🙂
@@emilia2108 i only ever see them driving on patrol once every few weeks. Not much goes on in my area.
If its a good kebab shop it likely has rum babas. Dohnut luxury
Growing up in the 70's and 80's,we had a local Bobby,he knew everyone,all the children and especially their parents,there was respect for our Bobby,he gave and received both Christmas and birthday cards to the locals on his beat.
They also went by the nickname PEELERS.from Robert Peel.
The "rozzers" ;-0
@@neville132bbk last time I heard the name ROZZERS,it was James May on an episode of top gear 🤣🤣
My father is not impressed by "degree bobbies". They lack real-world experience and tend to be promoted before they can get any.
He's right. A lot of them will just end up dealing with 'Human resourses' or becoming a politician in the service?
There nneds to be a mix of both kinds. A traditional officer will have the local knowledge to track down & arrest a local drug dealer, but to track down his main supplier's money laundering operation, would take squad of 'degree officers'.
@louis george My point was that graduates are not inferior police officers. Sure they still have a lot to learn, nut then so do all new police officers. Similarly, non- graduate police officers aren't too dumb to learn new skills on the job. We need both types of officer to tackle ever more sophisticated criminals, as well as dealing with everyday policing.
It just annoys me that people are so quick to denegrate young people who went to university (and young people who didn't, for that matter). I didn't go to university either & am closer to your father's age than yours, so don't have an axe to grind.
Regardless, I wish your father a long & happy retirement.
No, it was my bad. I made it look like non-graduate officers are incapable of of adapting to advanced policing methods, which is patently untrue. Good luck with your degree, I'm sure it won't be a waste of time in the end.
The Bow Street Runners enforced the law in a small area of London. They were self employed, sort of a halfway house between a bounty hunter & a police officer.
This was a good video and I'd like to see more about day to day living in Texas as well as what it's like being a cop. I think we get a distorted view if American police from TV shows and the news (only the bad ones get on the news).
Big respect to you sir staying in the force when everyone just seems to be hating coppers. Good job and God speed. You just earned yourself a new subscriber and my respect.
To your questions. Yes, majority would like more police here, but we are getting the anti-police sentiment from the US slowly. But mostly, yes, people still support more police officers on the streets. Furthermore, when they mean ‘work hard’ that’s at the same rank for years of good service. That is without promotions. With the higher ranks you can earn a pretty penny. I think a starting salary for an Inspector is about 50-60k disregarding years of service.
The rules have changed and you will now need a degree to become a PC in the UK soon or get a degree whilst in training
Respect dude and yes in the UK we need more cops and tougher sentences.
I'm not sure we need any MORE police officers in the UK. However, the deployment of police officers and the amount of face to face policing to administrative work has become off kilter, in my opinion.
Where I live, there is a MASSIVE police station, and there are hundreds of cars in the station car park whenever I pass by. I haven't actually SEEN any police officers on patrol (either on foot of in vehicles) on my street, neighbouring streets or my town centre, in well over a year. So, where are they and what are they doing? It's not as if there is a lack of crime or antisocial behaviour where I live, so are there streets and towns locally where these police employees who park their cars at the local station patrol?
The answer is, of course, no. Talk to ANY UK Bobby and they'll tell you that the majority of their time is spent doing administrative work, like every other population centred profession in this country.
There's a drive in McDonalds near me and there's nearly always 3-4 police cars with crews parked in the car park. Always lots of police in my local Tesco buying biscuits and snacks.
We have a massive police station in Colchester, 122k people in the town, but the station is closed most of the time and a lot of the crime we are getting is being shipped out of London so is city level in a town environment. We need more police but the admin does need to be reduced.
yeah, our police are far too busy, they often work longer and much harder than is right. they try to be as approachable as posible so if you need them you are comfortable going to them, they are even trained to give directions to tourists in london. but we do need more, there are very few beet bobbies now.... too reactive and not proactive.
I agree, the reduced police numbers mean more pressure on resolving crime stats and less on being there and community work, crime prevention, just keeping the peace by being there rather than responding. I never previously thought of our UK police as 'law enforcement' as my perceived focus was on them keeping us safe.
I'd love to see your reaction to the 70s uk cop show 'The Sweeney' 🇬🇧 it's an absolute classic and very real for the times, plus all the stunts are real as health and safety didn't exist back then... 🤣
They tried to make the Sweeney as realistic as possible. The makers of the Sweeney once asked some police what they thought of it. They said it was good except for one thing....the police in real life didn't always 'get their man'. That is why in some episodes the criminal(s) don't get caught.😊😎
Flying Squad "Sweeney Todd"
In England when I was young most villages had a resident policeman, without radio links and mostly a bicycle for local patrol! Now many of the police move around by car. We do have some armed police, but they are not on general duties. A single force can cover one county or a group of counties/cities. During active duties they can ignore borders and arrested people might be taken back to area of initial crime or in capture area. A police force can be authorised to arrest someone who is then transferred.
Bow Street Court is now in new building as Westminster Magistrates Court.
In 2019 the UK PM (Boris Johnson) announced funding for an additional 20,000 police. So far, around 50% of this number has been recruited.
Austerity. The 20,000 that were promised barely covers the amount of police we had before the Tories got in.
After the party which he was part of cut the number of officers.
You forgot to mention that when the Tories took power, they CUT police numbers buy 20,000 - the Home Secretary was Teresa May.
@@ToothbrushMan and they cut those numbers because the previous government left the country in such a terrible financial state. Never forget WHY austerity was implemented. Yes it sucked but if that government had handled the countrys finances better then austerity would not have been necessary.
@@mojojojo11811 Are you seriously going to blame the previous government for a financial crash that was a direct result of the “Big Bang” deregulation of the banking/financial industry by Thatchers Tory government!
In Northern Ireland the police are still often referred to as “peelers”
are you going to do an interview with eclectic beard, i hope so, if you get the beers in it'll be good
I think it would be interesting to hear your opinion or reaction on this episode of "The Norden": ruclips.net/video/jbM9uCxEJDM/видео.html
Police captain Peter Whittingham from LAPD visits Finland, Sweden and Norway. How are suspects treated? What equipment do Nordic police officers carry, and how are they allowed to use it? What role does the police have in the Nordics? English subtitles. Host: Joakim Rundt.
Links to other episodes of "The Norden":
Prisons: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfEsz8...
Religion: www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-kANR...
Gender: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMdfQ2...
(C) Finnish Broadcasting Company Yle 2014. All rights reserved.
They were called Peelers at the start after r peel.
"Works Hard" refers to a satisfactory job performance which will then earn you an annual pay increment. That is separate from the annual pay rises that (supposedly) covers inflation. From memory there 7 pay points and you move up to the next pay point each 1 year of service until you reach the top for your rank. So a Constable with the full qualifying length of service would be on £41,130 ($58,000). Getting promoted moves you to the pay scales for your new rank.
In the UK you also get a state pension when you get to 65-70 (depending on when you were born as it is moving up). It is currently £137 a week (but there are extras that people can qualify for).
Of course the provision of healthcare for your entire life makes a big difference when comparing wages (the average cost per working person is about £800 a year and covers everyone UK resident. Taxation often ends up pretty much the same and while housing is expensive other things can be cheaper in the UK.
I now want to see him do a react to CSI stuff on TV verses his real experience !
Seconding this.
He'll be too busy laughing! :-)
The things in CSI that they find as evidence with tweezers for the microscope! are ALWAYS so big you dont' need a microscope and would stand out a mile without the careful scrutiny they pretend. I suppose it would only work for the cameras this way. Yes the react you ask for would be interesting.
I called the police when a complete nutcase threw a brick through my neighbours window. They took a while to arrive turns out he drove off and murdered a man round the corner. Look it up Walton on Thames murder outside marks and Spencer.
The 'works hard' comment is hilarious, he's referring to our yearly increments, in your first 7 years as a PC you get a pay rise every year. You get paid higher when you get promoted more than the figure they qouted. Your yearly increment can be stalled if you have unsatisfactory performance
I’ve been to university, served in the military and then ended up in prison for reasons I find terrible. The fact is you respect the individual in any encounter. You seem a top bloke. God bless ❤️
I want more police, I believe the recruitment for more police has started since this video was made 👍🏼
II am a retired cop since 2006,I think from your video I gather we basically do the same job. In fact I finished up a Crime Scene examiner for a couple of years. The biggest difference would be the firearms issue but as you say an armed unit is supposed to be able to respond in 20 minutes. With regard to popularity, we have our fair share of naysayers and dissenters and the government has always been shy of giving the police too much power; they would rather stay in the driving seat in parliament legislating un-enforcable new laws
I would gladly pay more tax for the police and health care, to keep our kingdom safe and healthy. So good on you, Texan, you should be proud to help your fellow Americans.
We definitely need more police in the UK for sure
We do need more police in the uk,but an actual task force set up to tackle knife crime would be a start because that shit is getting out of control
In the UK you need 3 or more GCSE in maths and English to even get an interview. If accepted you then have to do a 3 year degree apprenticeship whilst working full time. The starting pay is £21,000 which rises over the years after you pass your degree.
Ha Ha!! I was about to make exactly the same comment. My nephew will be starting his appreticeship with Hants constabulary very soon. I do believe that this three year period can be shortened if you have spent more than 12 months as either a PCSO or a Special.
14:32 - especially if they are the doughnuts made by the former DCA factory where I live. The mother of one of my school friends worked there and used to bring home samples from time to time - they were to die for.
Anyone who puts on a uniform and risks their life everyday is a good guy in my book, regardless of opinions on policing.
In the uk, personally, I’ve never needed or even called the police at 31 years old so the outcry for more police isn’t from me.
thank you from me. I retired some years ago, but thank you for that.
Just to say… that a police officer carrying a gun as a matter of course helps to deter an assault against him or her is clear. To attribute that to “respect” as you suggested in the video is, in my opinion, a mischaracterisation. That’s more about “fear”.
It’s really example of quite a fundamental difference between the two policing systems, at least with respect to how they are supposed to work. The UK system is structurally about policing by consent of the public. It’s not really about “enforcement” (we really don’t talk much about the concept of “law enforcement” over here - it’s really an American turn of phrase), a display of strength or inspiring “fear”. Sure, it doesn’t always work how it’s supposed to, and sometimes the police does overstep its bounds, officers do things they’re not supposed to and the police is not universally popular over here either. But the core of the system that most people (the majority of the police included) are trying to pull everything back to is this concept of policing by consent.
I really enjoyed this video and it was interesting seeing your reaction to the video. Obviously the video is just slightly out dated by a few years but I might be able to answer some questions for you.
I work within one of the police services within the UK and in regards to some of your questions I would say the general view was that people wanted more police officers due to the rising crime. However, this is something that became really noticeable since 2016 I would say when many budget cuts occurred to police services. Many lost almost half of their budget which resulted in less officers, less equipment, less resources and having to remove certain roles which weren't absolutely necessary but made things easier and more efficient both for police and for citizens.
As of recently the numbers of officers is slightly rising due to Boris Johnson's appeal for 20,000 new police officers to be recruited nationally.
About the assaults yes it is quite true. Officers get assaulted very often but I'm not sure exactly why. In the past month I've been spat on, almost bitten, scratched, grabbed and pulled as well as had some scrapes and bruises from people resisting.
In regards to the hours it is said on average 40 hours a week but you usually work morning, late and then night shift. And usually about 6 days working then 3 or 4 days off and then back to start.
Hope this helps with some questions! Again great vid!
Thank you for being there. Huge respect.
Great knowledge, Robert Peel was born in Bury where I am from, there is a statue in the centre of him and a of course a pub named after him haha
And here’s me thinking you were you were an undercover operative of the CIA trying to investigate myself
Yeah
How are you Vlad
@@teddyroosevelt2838 I am doing absolutely fan-bloody-tastic. And yourself?
Well I do think you need to be investigated though...
@@Creed_Bratton I’m ok myself, I’ve been building a cabin in glenco
Yes, the UK definitely wants and needs more police. (in my experiences) the response times are slow, they do not attend at all for some small crimes and instead just give crime reference numbers, they dont patrol enough as they are caught up in paperwork or caught up with trivial things due to low staff number etc.
Agency, why agency? Thought they are police departments lol
Now you've braved that topic how about a jim jefferies gun control pt 1 and 2 reaction . Texas does have the most guns and loosest gun laws.
Threatening, insulting or spitting at a police officer counts as assault in the UK. Some even charge you with assault for swearing at them. The assault figures are stupidly inflated.
We need more Community Officers in the UK, building actual relationships with people.
have you not noticed the cuts to police budgets. The UK is down tens of thousands of officers as a result.
Hey Mike, I was in the livestream a couple months ago where you told the few of us that you were a police officer, congrats on 10k keep up the good work
Thanks for not snitching! Haha
@@DrunkTexanSays that’s alright 😂
“Bobbies” is still a common slang for cops around the UK.
Less used is “rozzers”, which also is tied to Sir Robert Peel.
UK is also one of the four countries in the world where police are generally unarmed,
But have separate armed response units, deployed where deemed necessary.
(The other three countries are Ireland, New Zealand, and Norway.)
Depends how you define unarmed. Over 30,000 cops now walk around carrying a taser and any cop can ask for one
Regarding your question at 7:20. Yes, we definitely need more police over here. I rarely see police cars on the roads where I live.
Back in early 2020, I stayed in Wayne, New Jersey for two weeks and I saw more police in those two weeks in New Jersey and New York than I saw in the year and four months since in the UK.
Where I live in the north of England the police are sometimes referred to as ‘ the dibble ‘ after officer Dibble on top cat.
I’m a Brit. I think the consensus here on police numbers differs. Within cities, where most organised or violent crime takes place, I’d say the consensus is that we need more police. But in more rural and quieter areas, less consensus there. That being said, whenever a politician says “we need to be tougher on crime, more police!” they’re generally more accepted.
Respect to you for your work and service.Do react to more Police stuff cos I'm sure most would like to see it.
Yes we need more police on the streets God bless All police officers 🇬🇧🇬🇧
I lived in the US for about 10 years. my GF is from Houston and we now live in the UK. My observation would be that the approach of the police is different. In the UK the approach is more tolerant and the police tend to try to deescalate a situation in order to resolve it. In the US from what I observed the police wanted to enforce the law as they understand it. I think it comes down to are officers there as law enforcement or as peace officer... neither way is right or wrong I never had issues anywhere in the US (except for misunderstanding my accent) or UK... I would say finding the balance between the two approaches is needed and that's the challenge. Great Video
When I was younger growing up in the late 80’s and 90’s we had neighbourhood policing - maybe see a few of them walking around just to make sure no trouble was happening. That’s been gone a good few years - we need that back
Also I appreciate it must be a tough time for you boys (and gals of course) in Blue across the Pond so sending all the love and support from the UK 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
I live in busy village in the south of England and we don’t have any local police enforcement near by, we have two community wardens that go around the village part time and if we have an “emergency” the police will come from up to 15 miles away.
The Bow Street Runners were the first organised group of law enforcement officers but they weren't police in the modern sense of the word. They operated out of the Magistrate's Court in Bow Street, near Covent Garden, under the control of Henry and Jack Fielding who were the Magistrates of the Court. Henry Fielding is much better known as a playwright and novelist. He wrote one of the earliest novels, "Tom Jones" (1749), which is still ranked at #5 on the Guardian's list of the greatest novels ever written.
England and Wales are in the process of recruiting an additional 20,000 police officers. In the UK the prison service is completely separate, UK police officers aren't jailors (police cells are only used for very brief periods of time). There is no high school diploma in the UK but the police only recruit 1 person from 10 applicants.
You could react to The Norden - Police. A nordic documentary with a californian officer brought to tour the police forces here in the Nordic countries and experience the culture shock. Available on RUclips :)
Also plenty of episodes from Poliisit and Lainvalvojat available here for footage from ordinary police officers and the national bureau of investigation respectively.