Sorry, but this is Roman ancestry. And Romans believed that their predicessors came from the town Troy. The Troyans were Tracians by origin, not related to anything Greek or to Greece.
@@vassilstoychev2225 FORGET ABOUT IT ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ At the time ,Roma was an EMPIRE.....who was able to import goods and people , practicaly ANYTHING .....The romans were GREAT admires of greek culture.....❤.... Julius Caesar spoke greek language ☝️☝️☝️
Thanks to Mr Zuchtriegel, the director of Pompeii, who is always driving forward new excavations in more parts of this ancient Roman city at the Gulf of Naples,discovering hidden treasures for such a long time that are covered by the debris of Mount Vesuvius and grass on its top until now.
Historically valuable discoveries like this provide great inspiration to modern people. By the way, Saturn's 12th satellite Helen is named after Helen.
The person who painted the painting, at minute 2:50 of this video, did a phenomenal job, as it really draws us into its three-dimensionality. The height perspective of the people in it to one another in relation to us, the observer, is PERFECT
they didn't say it in this clip but the second fresco (the one with the dog) shows us Paris [of Troy] in his alleged first meeting with Helen, something that was already 1,200yrs in the past when Pompeii was destroyed.
The room would look even larger in low lamp light, and the small people paintings would look like they were across the room, at a distance. Yes, flickering on the paintings. 😮😮😮😊🎉
The tragic disaster at Pompeii, is still haunting to this day. However. It also created a time capsule of ancient Rome, that gives us a view into that time. Unlike any other.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 Greeks build hundreds of cities in South Italy from the Minoan times 1200 B.C They never genocide locals only cooperate and assimilate them
Love seeing these paintings in situ and the discussion of how they were seen by the inhabitants of ancient Pompeii. They differ from earlier broad assumptions of color use as well as levels of subtlety and realism. Thank you for showing us this!
It is a common misconception, included in the comments here, that the marble statues were plain. They were not. Archaeological evidence has revealed the remnants of paint remaining on the statues and through that the colors used.
I love new finds at Pompeii, the time capsule of Roman life. These paintings are wonderful, I can’t remember if they are considered Second or Third Style. Maybe some expert might answer? (I have no art or archaeology expertise whatsoever, thanks).
The dark walls with small light panels in the center depicting simple and varied scenes are typical of the third style. Congratulations on your knowledge about Roman painting! 😊
I like how it's just a really simple image set against the black background....it really stands out. I wonder what it would've felt like to go in a time machine back to that room before the eruption with a few oil lamps...talk about atmospheric!.
I would question the oil lamp hypothesis for the room being black (and I presume it is a hypothesis contrary to how it stated here) based on a) the Romans presumably used lamps in other rooms not painted black and b) oilve oil burns very cleanly and produces very little black smoke or soot. Other kinds of oil (whale oil especially) or candles, both of which were not used until the modern period, produce much more.
Uh, what? All burning oil creates soot. Full stop. Hence “ lamp black”. Even if it’s low soot, there will always be soot and when the only light sources are oil lamps soot will build. The oil today smokes like mad, ancient oil with less filtering would smoke significantly more AND you ignore the wick. The wick isn’t made of magic not sooty olive oil.
Il tuo cane ha un nome epico Tuco, il grande protagonista del film leggendario " il buono, il brutto e il cattivo" , dopo 58 anni è ancora un capolavoro, apprezzato in tutto il mondo; un omaggio alla memoria del grande regista Sergio Leone e alla straordinaria musica del genio Ennio Morricone
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🎨 Stunning artworks discovered in Pompeii's new excavation* - Discovery of stunning artworks in a new excavation at Pompeii. - Description of the black room and its intricate paintings. - Insight into the functional reasons behind the black walls and white mosaic floor. 01:22 *🖼️ Understanding the significance of the artwork in the context of the room's use* - Discussion on the purpose of the room as an entertaining space. - Imagining the atmosphere and activities that took place in the room 2,000 years ago. - Appreciation for the preservation of Pompeii frozen in time. 03:51 *🏛️ Reflection on the historical significance of the discovery* - Appreciation for being among the first to see the room after 2,000 years. - Frozen-in-time quality of Pompeii and its archaeological significance. - Announcement of the upcoming documentary about Pompeii's new dig. Made with HARPA AI
I think they were idea'd to paint plaster in all black then colors, then upon firelight they would/still will stand out give off a 3d appearance. Anyone try it yet ??
Pompeii was a pretty third rate town back in Roman times so imagine the art you would have found in major cities like Rome and Constantinople, if only it had been preserved like this.
@@jeannerogers7085Indeed. Pompeii is sometimes dismissed as provincial, and politically it certainly was, but the entire Bay of Naples was a prime resort area for elite Romans, and the wealthiest properties excavated in the area are likely reflective of elite tastes at the time of their construction and decoration.
Has this house been given a modern moniker by the scholars? Perhaps that older convention is no longer followed. I look forward to seeing more of the artwork in closer detail in the future.
@@mucahitnas5439 every time, they are spammed to high heaven, but a contrarian view to theirs is removed in seconds. Makes you wonder what their priorities are?
@@Camaika1997 disintegration does occur, however the cavity within the ash can be filled with a mould to recreate furniture. That's how the horse carriages, other items, and even people themselves are preserved.
If you go to Herculaneum, you'll find more of intact furniture and wooden trim of the homes. A lot of it has been blackened, but quite a bit of the intricate carvings have been preserved.
I don’t understand… this room was recently found? Is it underground? How come noone found it for 2000 years… or was it filled with soil and just ended up shovel it out?
@@alexandrogallardo7814A lot of modern medicine and other inventions, that have made lives easier for many people were made during that lifespan. So idk what your on:
Germanic/Teudic tribes are the reason why the glory of ancient Greco-Roman civilization is still surviving. Who inherited the legal code, civil and military administration, who was Charlemagne?
Think about that all over the Mediterranean sea the Roman empire had a splendid culture over 2000 years ago . Today the southern and eastern coasts are occupied by a culture with no music , no sculpture and no paintings of humans . In the Roman empire the WOMAN was respected.
How did they construct that floor? Holy Toledo. I wanna go to Pompii ,but I feel guilty about being another tourist trampling down peoples ancient heritage.
Well, all those people are dead, and your visit builds revenue that goes into preservation. Maybe don’t tap dance on the frieze and Stop being a bleeding heart.
I was in Pompeii about months ago and noted how there was scaffolding in a lot of places. It appeared to me that they were "building" some ancient ruins. There were also tins of paint in many of the rooms you couldn't go in. Bit of a theme park really. Better off going to Ercolano until they do the same there.
Sherlock holmes that’s the actual ancient romans construction materials since the city was under renovation at the time of the Eruption. The guide would have told you. You really think if they was making it they would leave it right there everyone can see it hahahaha. It’s stunning because ancient romans materials looks so modern so maybe you were fooled by that.
We seem to forget there is an era of art PRE Jesus, pre Byzantium, and it’s full of life, erotica, nature and still life’s. Very much like fine art today ( last 200 years ) it’s quite extraordinary but the art of Ancient Greece and Rome is of such a calibre that it won’t be bested for nearly 1300 years. Art has done a full circle
The archeologist Sophie Hay reasonably speculates near the end of the report that the room was used for entertaining and the guests and their hosts would likely be engaged in lively discussions of politics. Tragically, unlike the Romans and the Athenians, and even Americans dating back to the 60's and 70's, since the 90's we have increasingly lost our ability and willingness to engage one another in rational debate over controversial political, social, and religious issues. This intolerance of dissent and free and open discussion originated in American colleges in the 90's when the Neo-Marxist Left gained greater control over universities and declared war on our traditions founded in Western Civilization.
It is an undeniable fact that during the period of 1640 to 1807, Britain was the most dominant power in the slave trade, and it took the largest number of African slaves. According to estimates, Britain transported a staggering 3.1 million Africans as slaves, of which 2.7 million arrived in the British colonies located in the Caribbean, North and South America, and other regions across the world.
You should look into who the British purchased those people from. The British were not the source of the slave trade. They were a link in the chain. Blame everyone or blame no one.
Of course, it's all interpretation... for instance the picture with the dog could have been a depiction of when they bought a dog off some dodgy street vendor.
Why is there a painting of Cassandra here, I wonder? It would be very interesting if, as this affluent family engages in political discussions in this room, the painting displayed here was saying, 'What I am saying is true. People might not believe it, but just believe.'
Just leaving this here.. My heart goes to the entire community for AWM89V building up something which is worth it for everyone. This is so smart by them to launch and shatter the doubts and fears of the common folk, which was misplaced by all the drama we had last years. Time for changes
It’s fascinating how there’s still so much of Pompeii to still excavate - and as the years pass the archaeological / preservation techniques improve.
Yes many other sites to Greek sites in Turkey, not 20% excavated.....
Sorry, but this is Roman ancestry. And Romans believed that their predicessors came from the town Troy. The Troyans were Tracians by origin, not related to anything Greek or to Greece.
@@vassilstoychev2225 FORGET ABOUT IT ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ At the time ,Roma was an EMPIRE.....who was able to import goods and people , practicaly ANYTHING .....The romans were GREAT admires of greek culture.....❤....
Julius Caesar spoke greek language ☝️☝️☝️
@@vassilstoychev2225 Now thank you, these people need help.
Thanks to Mr Zuchtriegel, the director of Pompeii, who is always driving forward new excavations in more parts of this ancient Roman city at the Gulf of Naples,discovering hidden treasures for such a long time that are covered by the debris of Mount Vesuvius and grass on its top until now.
Historically valuable discoveries like this provide great inspiration to modern people.
By the way, Saturn's 12th satellite Helen is named after Helen.
TIL, thank you.
Are you kidding? The Brits would bulldoze it because it’s racist if they could.
The person who painted the painting, at minute 2:50 of this video, did a phenomenal job, as it really draws us into its three-dimensionality. The height perspective of the people in it to one another in relation to us, the observer, is PERFECT
they didn't say it in this clip but the second fresco (the one with the dog) shows us Paris [of Troy] in his alleged first meeting with Helen, something that was already 1,200yrs in the past when Pompeii was destroyed.
Books before books and libraries
More then 1300 probably
@@jussikankinen9409 greeks and even their ancestor had books from at least 1500 bC. For Egypt and Mesopotamia, at least 4000 bC
The room would look even larger in low lamp light, and the small people paintings would look like they were across the room, at a distance. Yes, flickering on the paintings. 😮😮😮😊🎉
Ive been to pompii 3 times.
Every time was just amazing. Never disappointed.
I visited in 1990. It lives up to its promis. They were so far ahead in terms of good living
The tragic disaster at Pompeii, is still haunting to this day. However. It also created a time capsule of ancient Rome, that gives us a view into that time. Unlike any other.
Pompeii it was a Greek city of Magna Greacia under occupation of the Romans
@@basicinfo8786I'm sure that the Greeks took the city from another culture and renamed it. Greek history isn't exactly peaceful.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 Greeks build hundreds of cities in South Italy from the Minoan times 1200 B.C They never genocide locals only cooperate and assimilate them
@@basicinfo8786I’m pretty sure it was inhabited by the oscans- an italic people
@@abloodorange5233 The name is Greek Pompeii and is only 5 miles from Naples
The things that gets me are the little drawings in the streets on the walls. Graffiti and kids hand prints. Some things never change.
The frescoes in Pompeii are my favorite frescoes of all. They are so beautiful.
They had Fresca?
Perhaps they sipped on Fresca while admiring their frescoes, lol. 😉
@@fifiladu2659 Yummy.
Wow. Fantastic find.
I'm disappointed with the cameraman for not zooming in more on the paintings...
basically makes the video shite
Beautiful. I want to visit so bad!!!!
Definitely do, it's incred
I love these ancient paintings
Love seeing these paintings in situ and the discussion of how they were seen by the inhabitants of ancient Pompeii. They differ from earlier broad assumptions of color use as well as levels of subtlety and realism. Thank you for showing us this!
It is a common misconception, included in the comments here, that the marble statues were plain. They were not. Archaeological evidence has revealed the remnants of paint remaining on the statues and through that the colors used.
How sophisticated the Romans were so very long ago. How much we owe to the world of archaeology.
Sophisticated except for the slavery
I love new finds at Pompeii, the time capsule of Roman life. These paintings are wonderful, I can’t remember if they are considered Second or Third Style. Maybe some expert might answer? (I have no art or archaeology expertise whatsoever, thanks).
The dark walls with small light panels in the center depicting simple and varied scenes are typical of the third style.
Congratulations on your knowledge about Roman painting! 😊
Them painting the walls black to hide the soot feels relatable. 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Amazing! Beautiful artworks, thank you for the excellent reporting.
I like how it's just a really simple image set against the black background....it really stands out. I wonder what it would've felt like to go in a time machine back to that room before the eruption with a few oil lamps...talk about atmospheric!.
I wonder if they tried to scan the walls to see if there’s any drawings hidden by the time.
I was there in August of this year . An amazing but sad place. I am so excited they found this
I would question the oil lamp hypothesis for the room being black (and I presume it is a hypothesis contrary to how it stated here) based on a) the Romans presumably used lamps in other rooms not painted black and b) oilve oil burns very cleanly and produces very little black smoke or soot. Other kinds of oil (whale oil especially) or candles, both of which were not used until the modern period, produce much more.
Uh, what? All burning oil creates soot. Full stop. Hence “ lamp black”. Even if it’s low soot, there will always be soot and when the only light sources are oil lamps soot will build. The oil today smokes like mad, ancient oil with less filtering would smoke significantly more AND you ignore the wick. The wick isn’t made of magic not sooty olive oil.
Beautiful place to visit.
dogs have been our best friend for ever
Stunning!
At night with Candlelight the pictures would have looked like they were floating and the candlelight would have made them look like they were moving
Thanks for posting
What a great glimpse into the Roman word - Civis Romanus
They are finding the good stuff lately. I really love the secluded house temple they where renovating when the mountain exploded.
Intricate art discovered. Amazing!
It would have been good to have actually seen the room rather than just bits
Always love classical paintings
My dog, Tuco, is a ringer for that dog in the painting.
Il tuo cane ha un nome epico Tuco, il grande protagonista del film leggendario " il buono, il brutto e il cattivo" , dopo 58 anni è ancora un capolavoro, apprezzato in tutto il mondo; un omaggio alla memoria del grande regista Sergio Leone e alla straordinaria musica del genio Ennio Morricone
Why not show it all?
I'm traveling there next October, can't wait to see these with my own eyes. 😍
The great Roman civilization, the great Western culture.
Stunning wow
La richesse de cette époque reste encore à redécouvrir ❤
Spectacular.
Amazing 👍👍👍
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🎨 Stunning artworks discovered in Pompeii's new excavation*
- Discovery of stunning artworks in a new excavation at Pompeii.
- Description of the black room and its intricate paintings.
- Insight into the functional reasons behind the black walls and white mosaic floor.
01:22 *🖼️ Understanding the significance of the artwork in the context of the room's use*
- Discussion on the purpose of the room as an entertaining space.
- Imagining the atmosphere and activities that took place in the room 2,000 years ago.
- Appreciation for the preservation of Pompeii frozen in time.
03:51 *🏛️ Reflection on the historical significance of the discovery*
- Appreciation for being among the first to see the room after 2,000 years.
- Frozen-in-time quality of Pompeii and its archaeological significance.
- Announcement of the upcoming documentary about Pompeii's new dig.
Made with HARPA AI
So much wall. So few pictures on the blackened wall.
Always a Karen. 😂
I was there and there were many paintings of .I.
The ironic thing is that they were destroyed by a giant one
That's what the ladies tell me.
Lovely 🎉
Was it more or less intact then? Why did they not find any furniture?
Fantastic!
Totally amazing
So cool.
Wow.
Very cool!
I love my Pompeii
This fascinating
I think they were idea'd to paint plaster in all black then colors, then upon firelight they would/still will stand out give off a 3d appearance. Anyone try it yet ??
Exciting!
Amazing also to think that it took Western painting more than 1200 years to reach this level of depiction again.
Pompeii was a pretty third rate town back in Roman times so imagine the art you would have found in major cities like Rome and Constantinople, if only it had been preserved like this.
Pompeii and the nearby beach towns were actually the Miami Beach, Santa Barbara and Aspen of their times.
@@jeannerogers7085Indeed. Pompeii is sometimes dismissed as provincial, and politically it certainly was, but the entire Bay of Naples was a prime resort area for elite Romans, and the wealthiest properties excavated in the area are likely reflective of elite tastes at the time of their construction and decoration.
Look up Neros Domus Aurea
You're regurgitating someone else probably from some poorly researched 5 minute video.
Has this house been given a modern moniker by the scholars? Perhaps that older convention is no longer followed. I look forward to seeing more of the artwork in closer detail in the future.
why aren't the walls white like the floor, to bounce off the light? why isnt the floor black like the walls -- to hide the soot?
I love how the bbc deletes the comments of people with differing opinions, but cant stop a bunch of spam bots all using the same key word.
@@mucahitnas5439 every time, they are spammed to high heaven, but a contrarian view to theirs is removed in seconds. Makes you wonder what their priorities are?
It's the BBC and RUclips doing the censoring. It's just in the nature of people like that, it's not a great situation.
Why don't they build a roof for the room since the sunlight will fade these 2000 year old paintings pretty fast?
Hallelujah archaeologists !!!
With all these excavations, where is the furniture?
ive been wondering too. I assume rotten or burned?!
Much of it burned in the hot gases of the pyroclastic flow or was crushed under the ash. There are a few surviving pieces.
@@Camaika1997 disintegration does occur, however the cavity within the ash can be filled with a mould to recreate furniture. That's how the horse carriages, other items, and even people themselves are preserved.
Most furniture sold by Ikea is wooden.
If you go to Herculaneum, you'll find more of intact furniture and wooden trim of the homes. A lot of it has been blackened, but quite a bit of the intricate carvings have been preserved.
the fresco could be the household members the man, woman and daughter looking up adoringly to her mother
I don’t understand… this room was recently found? Is it underground? How come noone found it for 2000 years… or was it filled with soil and just ended up shovel it out?
the paintings are better by far than medieval counterparts. the Europe was degraded from Roman civilization to germenic medieval.
Got to love the dark ages
youre not european turk.
@@alexandrogallardo7814 Huh?
@@alexandrogallardo7814A lot of modern medicine and other inventions, that have made lives easier for many people were made during that lifespan. So idk what your on:
Germanic/Teudic tribes are the reason why the glory of ancient Greco-Roman civilization is still surviving. Who inherited the legal code, civil and military administration, who was Charlemagne?
Think about that all over the Mediterranean sea the Roman empire had a splendid culture over 2000 years ago . Today the southern and eastern coasts are occupied by a culture with no music , no sculpture and no paintings of humans .
In the Roman empire the WOMAN was respected.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLWhere did you get a silly idea like that?! And in Rome, women were NOT respected, but regarded as markedly inferior beings.
Can some one tell me how white paint survived 2000+ years? Is this magic?
We should feel incredibly privileged. 😮
How did they construct that floor? Holy Toledo. I wanna go to Pompii ,but I feel guilty about being another tourist trampling down peoples ancient heritage.
Well, all those people are dead, and your visit builds revenue that goes into preservation. Maybe don’t tap dance on the frieze and Stop being a bleeding heart.
Did they have same kind of dining furniture like modern days would? If not, what were they like?
I was in Pompeii about months ago and noted how there was scaffolding in a lot of places. It appeared to me that they were "building" some ancient ruins. There were also tins of paint in many of the rooms you couldn't go in. Bit of a theme park really. Better off going to Ercolano until they do the same there.
Are you exposing them for fraud? Work harder and you might win a Pulitzer Prize.
@@brave-i9l simply noting an observation from a quick visit.
Sherlock holmes that’s the actual ancient romans construction materials since the city was under renovation at the time of the Eruption. The guide would have told you. You really think if they was making it they would leave it right there everyone can see it hahahaha. It’s stunning because ancient romans materials looks so modern so maybe you were fooled by that.
This just to say next time take the guided tour and all your doubts will disappear
Is there one of Frankie Howard?
We seem to forget there is an era of art PRE Jesus, pre Byzantium, and it’s full of life, erotica, nature and still life’s. Very much like fine art today ( last 200 years ) it’s quite extraordinary but the art of Ancient Greece and Rome is of such a calibre that it won’t be bested for nearly 1300 years. Art has done a full circle
Do we though? Really? Likely not. Pre Christian art is more rare, due to age but nobody with sense ignores that there is a pre Christian world.
It busts the myth that Light and shadow painting was invented during Renaissance
The archeologist Sophie Hay reasonably speculates near the end of the report that the room was used for entertaining and the guests and their hosts would likely be engaged in lively discussions of politics. Tragically, unlike the Romans and the Athenians, and even Americans dating back to the 60's and 70's, since the 90's we have increasingly lost our ability and willingness to engage one another in rational debate over controversial political, social, and religious issues. This intolerance of dissent and free and open discussion originated in American colleges in the 90's when the Neo-Marxist Left gained greater control over universities and declared war on our traditions founded in Western Civilization.
4:20 anyone?😅
A Pompeiinting
bbc excavated for gold and now showing paintings
I wish you had simply concentrated on the art work. You never even showed the landscapes!!
there a dog face top left window
It is an undeniable fact that during the period of 1640 to 1807, Britain was the most dominant power in the slave trade, and it took the largest number of African slaves. According to estimates, Britain transported a staggering 3.1 million Africans as slaves, of which 2.7 million arrived in the British colonies located in the Caribbean, North and South America, and other regions across the world.
Irrelevant.
You should look into who the British purchased those people from. The British were not the source of the slave trade. They were a link in the chain. Blame everyone or blame no one.
this a black energy entity room
Ah. When people seek confirmation of their own fears.
Import beautiful history
2:22 👈 my goodness...
Of course, it's all interpretation... for instance the picture with the dog could have been a depiction of when they bought a dog off some dodgy street vendor.
No there is a name written next to the painting. In Greek
There are the names: helene, Alexander.
Im amazed you haven't AI' d them as black!!😅
Gingers 😶
@@sinaminika
even worse!!🤣
Why is there a painting of Cassandra here, I wonder? It would be very interesting if, as this affluent family engages in political discussions in this room, the painting displayed here was saying, 'What I am saying is true. People might not believe it, but just believe.'
It is gonna be a crucial year and a huge milestone went through with AWM89V something everyone should be aware of
WOW what lifeless and lacklustre reporting! Great discovery by the Archaeologists.
Oh, loving how it will look fully restored by AI!
Just leaving this here.. My heart goes to the entire community for AWM89V building up something which is worth it for everyone. This is so smart by them to launch and shatter the doubts and fears of the common folk, which was misplaced by all the drama we had last years. Time for changes
Those paintings aren't new at all! They're roughly 2000 years old.
Incredible in such short time AWM89V is groundbreaking and everywhere, who can even come close?
Just this once the BBC is getting a like from me. It's something out of the ordinary considering its abysmal coverage of the ongoing genocide.
Wait till they cover up the newest iran israhell war
Genocide is the systematic erasure of a group of people. What’s happening is the opposite.
to see your god to meet to worship his image
Pompeiintings
Again the Greeks ohhh what a suprise