We have the infloor hydronic system. Home is 1,315 sq ft, garage is 784 sq ft. 15 Kw electric boiler on off peak rates. garage kept at 50 degrees house kept at 69 degrees. Live in central Minnesota (-40 in winter) insulated foundation. We have not had over $600 heating season yet.
I am curious, doesn't 69 feel cold to you? Do any visitors say its cold? We have never had radiant but we keep cranking up our thermostat to 74-75 from preset of 72.
@@anilgargsfo We stand on a hot rock. It takes 4 hours for the floor to respond to a change demand. 69 F feels like 73 and we leave it like that. It does get warm when we've had -20F and it warms up to the mid 20's. Gets too warm in the house.
@@tomn5880 Fascinating! Tricks of heat rising, I guess that makes 69 feel like 73. I also understood the thermal mass and the inertia of four hours as it slowly heats up. Did not understand the minus 20F warming to mid-20s and it getting too warm. Appreciate response.
Is this system ever done with soft bendable copper tube, Yes i realize it would be massively more expensive, But at the same time I ask, is copper pipe a better material for producing the heat, and for distributing through the floors, after all, do we not already have heat-exchangers of copper in boilers already for this very reason.
Do they provide plumbing information for the system as well or is that left to the heating engineer to design? Eg possible requirement of hydraulic separation if using ufh and rads together...
I am buying an old house with concrete floors. The cielings aren't too high. If I install the floating system will I lose heat through the concrete floor?
Yes you will lose heat unless the floor is insulated. The question is how much? If you can get 25mm of PUR under the low temperature undefloor heating it might still be a good option
@@SkillBuilder in my house, the first floor and the ground floor are concrete. Do you think if I was to dig down to the bottom of the foundation and wrap the whole house from the outside in a good insulation it would stop a lot of heat loss? Or should I insulate the rooms singularly from the inside?
Id put the aluminium plates coupled with 5mm pilot holes in the floor boards. Probably put insulation boards under the pipe and battoned secured. The aluminium plates makes sense. A more bendy 22mm pipe would make better flow rate and surface area. On a normal system the 22mm flow n return always feel nice
The video does not show where floor temperature sensors are installed (at all) ? The floor temperature is not supposed to get too hot (for example, Kardeen flooring), so where are the sensors?
The sensors go between the coils so they are taking a typical reading. The length of the probe is not that long so they need to be below the thermostat. We put the sensor in a sleeve so it can be replaced.
Doesn’t say how the pressure is balanced for each run or the max or ideal length for runs , as in copper CH rad systems a 22mm feed or feeds is fed off to 15mm pipe rads . In my opinion we need heat more than sideboards lol 😂 I would run longer runs on edges an shorter in the middle , am I talking nonsense lol 😝
Ya to heat a whole house electric 50 thousand dollars in inverters, Batterys and solar panels that cover your whole roof that are only warrantied for twenty years, 5 thousand for insulation and inverters and batterys are only warrantied for five years knock your self out.
We have the infloor hydronic system. Home is 1,315 sq ft, garage is 784 sq ft. 15 Kw electric boiler on off peak rates. garage kept at 50 degrees house kept at 69 degrees. Live in central Minnesota (-40 in winter) insulated foundation. We have not had over $600 heating season yet.
I am curious, doesn't 69 feel cold to you? Do any visitors say its cold? We have never had radiant but we keep cranking up our thermostat to 74-75 from preset of 72.
@@anilgargsfo We stand on a hot rock. It takes 4 hours for the floor to respond to a change demand. 69 F feels like 73 and we leave it like that. It does get warm when we've had -20F and it warms up to the mid 20's. Gets too warm in the house.
@@tomn5880 Fascinating! Tricks of heat rising, I guess that makes 69 feel like 73. I also understood the thermal mass and the inertia of four hours as it slowly heats up. Did not understand the minus 20F warming to mid-20s and it getting too warm. Appreciate response.
@@anilgargsfo I forgot to remove the minus.
Is this system ever done with soft bendable copper tube, Yes i realize it would be massively more expensive, But at the same time I ask, is copper pipe a better material for producing the heat, and for distributing through the floors, after all, do we not already have heat-exchangers of copper in boilers already for this very reason.
Do they provide plumbing information for the system as well or is that left to the heating engineer to design? Eg possible requirement of hydraulic separation if using ufh and rads together...
I wonder how it would work with my mobile home? Thank You , for another facinating video , full of interesting ideas
Roger looked exactly the same as he does now in the early nineties when this MUST have been filmed
R W hehehe
Roger good video very informative.
I am buying an old house with concrete floors. The cielings aren't too high. If I install the floating system will I lose heat through the concrete floor?
Yes you will lose heat unless the floor is insulated. The question is how much? If you can get 25mm of PUR under the low temperature undefloor heating it might still be a good option
@@SkillBuilder in my house, the first floor and the ground floor are concrete. Do you think if I was to dig down to the bottom of the foundation and wrap the whole house from the outside in a good insulation it would stop a lot of heat loss? Or should I insulate the rooms singularly from the inside?
Id put the aluminium plates coupled with 5mm pilot holes in the floor boards. Probably put insulation boards under the pipe and battoned secured. The aluminium plates makes sense. A more bendy 22mm pipe would make better flow rate and surface area. On a normal system the 22mm flow n return always feel nice
Can you also explain underfloor cooling via heat pump
The video does not show where floor temperature sensors are installed (at all) ? The floor temperature is not supposed to get too hot (for example, Kardeen flooring), so where are the sensors?
The sensors go between the coils so they are taking a typical reading. The length of the probe is not that long so they need to be below the thermostat. We put the sensor in a sleeve so it can be replaced.
This man's odd socks. Swanky.
Roger looks strange all dressed up like that
Hi just a quick question.. can we install wet underfloor heating on wooden floors after?
Yes there are lots of low build systems that go on top with the floorcovering over the pipes.
@@SkillBuilder thank you very much
Doesn’t say how the pressure is balanced for each run or the max or ideal length for runs , as in copper CH rad systems a 22mm feed or feeds is fed off to 15mm pipe rads .
In my opinion we need heat more than sideboards lol 😂 I would run longer runs on edges an shorter in the middle , am I talking nonsense lol 😝
Samarbeid weber?
Electric underfloor powered by solar
Ya to heat a whole house electric 50 thousand dollars in inverters, Batterys and solar panels that cover your whole roof that are only warrantied for twenty years, 5 thousand for insulation and inverters and batterys are only warrantied for five years knock your self out.
Who’s this bloke ..🧐......