Blues Junior vs Pro Junior - #70 Doctor Guitar
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this episode I compare the Fender Blues Junior with its little brother the Pro Junior.
A lot of subscribers asked for this episode so here it is.
The Blues Junior has a 12" speaker while the Por Junior has a 10" speaker.
The Blues Junior has reverb and Full eq section with bass mid and treble while the Por Junior only has a Tone Control.
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With the Pro Junior, its a no nonsense tube amp that really show if you really know how to use your guitar's volume and tone control like the guitar players from the 50s, 60's and 70s. Yes, before there were master volumes on tube amps. Just crank the amp and use the volume control of your guitar to adjust the overdrive of the amp and use the tone of the guitar to tone in that smooth woman tone. Use the Pro Junior with a Les Paul junior or a guitar with P90's then you got the tone of classic driving Rock and Roll!!!
Very very true
I really like it, and it’s fun to play that way.
I have a PJ4. It’s the perfect practice amp. It’s super transparent so all my guitars sound totally different. I’m lucky enough to have a large studio room in my house, so I can turn it up and push it without killing my ears. I’m surprised they’re not more popular. I have several more expensive amps and I use the PJ more than 90% of the time. It’s glorious.
I like it a lot but unwound consider it transparent
I have an original drip edge super reverb from 69 and i finally bout me a Pro Jr. IV LTD and it lowky sounds better than the Super Reverb.. I think i gotta replace the old speakers.. they are in good shape but they sound fizzy and weird...
I just bought a blues junior as an "upgrade" to the pro junior... I was wrong! Comparing the two the pro junior was a definite winner
Different beasts but I love both
^ I gigged my 4 years of college with a Blues Jr, sold it for a SuperSonic, and now looking at at Pro Jr, for practice, smaller gigs, etc. (or run in stereo)
The Blues Jr. really shined when I fed it into a 4x4 cab live. Don’t forget it handles pedals really well, so bring it to a local shop and test some out. Only amp I’ve used a Boss DS-1 on for Tom Petty lead.
idk man. I also have both but I prefer the blues junior because it sound alot fuller in person and you can feel it more
And it has reverb
I play experimental rock/metal. Played a show earlier this year and the venue had the pro junior through the pa. The guy said try this one.
So I put my whole rig with pog, ocd, delay etc. through that thing. Holy shit.
Used my boss eq as booster. One of the best and clear live sounds i’ve ever had. I need to get one.
Eh! Eh!
The Pro Jr is a secret weapon, an essential amp. Just grabs you by the throat and doesn't let go.
I’m actually starting to use it live in my main shows
U deserve so much more subcribers man, i hope they roll in quickly! :) nice video's, nice quality and you're nice to listen to.
Thanks a lot for your support!!! Keep on watching
I will buddy!
My Blues Jr watched this video and it got really jealous of the Pro. My Princeton Reverb RI was laughing at my sad Blues Jr until 12:43 (and subsequent comments) and then it got really quiet in the music room here LOL Thanks for sharing!
Eh! Eh! Great comment
The two combined in STEREO from 16:30 on is amazing. CHALLENGE - Find ONE tube amp that sounds that good. Getting back to your post, If I had to pick one amp between the Pro and Blues - it would be the Pro. Much more organic tube tone although maybe noisier at higher volumes. Really enjoyed your post - Thanks and let me know if you take my challenge to find One reasonably priced tube amp that can do it all :). Maybe the Carvin V3 (not the V3-M), or you can never go wrong with the VOX AC30, just their reliability is in question.
Hi Budda, Good video. I have just bought a 'blues junior iv' to use in my mates studio, and have ordered a 'pro junior' for home use which hopefully will arrive tomorrow. I had a 'blues junior III' which I sold to my mate's son years ago, it's still in the studio and he still uses it. I love them both. By the way I chose the iv over the new tweed. Best wishes, Nick
Nick Nixon great to know that. Thanks for sharing
Wow. The Pro Jr kicks ass!
good video. I use Pro jr with a behringer EQ to open up tone. Fantastic! I also add Keeley reverb and a GF liquid trem. I need nothing else.
Super
best demo comparing the two. pro junior for the win. many thanks
Thanks a lot
Really appreciate the way you breakdown the setup
Non master amps are always kick ass, pro junior is no exception.
Nice video! Greatly appreciated! I just got a Pro Junior 3 (still new) the other day and was wondering if I should have gotten the Blues Junior? But, the Pro Junior is definitely the one for me! The Pro has only one sound, bad ass! Luckily that’s the only tone that I like! Thanks
Eh eh! I love its simplicity
Exactly correct!
I was soo torn between both of these, it took me a whole week to decided but I just ordered the Pro Jr. Since I have some pedals I didn't think I needed all the bells and whistles from the BluesJr. It seems so simple and will save me some space. I'm happy with my finall decision and waiting for it to get delieved before the end of the week. Can't wait to try it out with my Ibanez Tube Screamer, Boss DS1, Crybaby, Walrus Slo and Boss RC5. Still need to get me a nice Fuzz and Chorus pedal.
Great! Let us know when you get it!!!
@@BuddaGuedes it is badass! I love it, I hooked up all my pedals and spent hours just messing around. I swear at one point I thought I had died and gone to heaven, lol. Out of body experience. 10/10 would buy again.
Great!! Thanks for sharing
thank you! I didn't even know the Pro Junior existed. O_O I love your amp reviews.
Neither did I initially. When I found out, I had to compare the 2 and I'm glad that I did because I like the tone of the Pro Junior more than the Blues Junior.
I love my pro junior. And I changed the speaker for an eminence P10R now, and it’s killer. Watch the episode on my channel
You have a good ear for tone. Your knowledge of amps, guitars and effects is very impressive. You understand how to get excellent sounds and know your way around the guitar. Lucy in the sky with diamonds. Very informative and entertaining.
Miracle Man 7 thanks
Great video. Love that you stay concise in your presentation/talking iand play solid, musical phrases.
Thanks a lot
Fantastic video. You showed so much information on contrast and comparison for both amps and also on how to use two amps. Great job!! These are the setups I've used for years and many guitar players, specially the younger ones do not even know because they are afraid to experiment. I just subscribed to you.. Gracias Amigo!!
Great job Budda I will try it in stereo and thank you
Doug J don’t forget to flip the phase
Great episodes Budda! Just recently found your channel and subscribed instantly. Like your humble and educational approach. And by the way, great playing!
Thanks a lot for your support.
I agree with @Hampus Lindahl
Budda, Love this episode! Your knowledge and playing are fantastic. I have and love both of these amps, and I still learned a lot watching you. Thank you!
Isaac Johnson thanks a lot!
Got rid of my other amps and just kept the pro jnr. Great little amp with pedals and played big festivals to large crowds with it. Highly recommended 👍
@Marcel Keupink Sweet! If you play live then the stage monitor engineer will love you for it!
What about it's distortion with Volume up ? I mean, you can;t get the same tone on different volumes.
@@andrewchernysh4821 If you need an exceptionally loud amp with clean tones then its probably not for you. Personally I've never needed to push it over half way even on big stages at festivals etc. It stays pretty clean with my Rickenbacker and I use a Tubescreamer for over-drive
@@Ukulele_Ad On the contrary, I need a quiet bedroom level but saturated ))
I struggled with super champ x2. Pleasing saturation could only be reached with volume around 3
@@andrewchernysh4821 get a tube screamer they kick in drive without changing your tone.
Based on this video I decided to buy the Blues Junior II and I really love it, since it is my first guitar amp. It was very hard to find out which one I like, because today there are so many different amps!
These were my Pros for chosing the Blues instead of the Pro Junior:
-louder than the Pro Junior
-more bass
-master volume
-spring reverb
-bigger speaker
I think both amps sound really great in your vid, it helped a lot making the right decision, thanks and keep up the good work!!
It’s a good amp no doubt
Pro J for me.
Sounds like a real amp
Blues J has a modern unappealing "throw away amp" vibe that I've heard a million times
Thanks for your comment
That Pro is a lil monster.
I love the IV
Anyone who has a Pro Jr. should do themselves a favor and get the discontinued Eminence blue alnico speaker that they used in the early 90s. Hands down the best speaker you can put in one of these things. Make sure its the one with the paper wound voice coil because the kapton wound ones don't sound nearly as good. Neither do the Jensens.
Thanks for the tip
You are spot-on. My 96 Tweed Pro Junior with the blue speaker sounds better than any model made since. It's the speaker!
That’s right
The pro is more true to a tweed tone, raw and the circuit is more true to original fenders. The blues Jr has good tones but its different, it cuts some of the low end and has a more boxy sound overall.
I feel the pop rob is more boutique
I fucking love this channel
335 straight into pro jr crank both knobs to 10, neck pickup and GO! Blues machine!
It’s cool but very loud
The Pro Jr is best with a alnico speaker Like a Jensen P10R , Emi Blue or Celestion Gold. I have one with each speaker the Gold is slightly louder. I play out with 2 in stereo sound Great and only 20 lb.
john Richardson I love the pro junior
although the blues jr has a 12' speaker, and more controls, the pro jr has a much better tone, it sounds very "Fender"
It’s a great tinny amp
I'd love a video about how to get great tube breakup sounds at low volume. Many of us live in apartments and struggle to work out good solutions as most videos don't take this into account
I’ve done a few. But watch the one about Marshall class 5 or the 1 watt Marshall amps or the tinny amps
Cheers!
@@BuddaGuedes
I can work with a Dsl5 on 1w position. Great homework amp clean and crancked
If you have an amp with really high clean headroom, you should try a transparent overdrive/tube screamer, usually they are non transparent and lose the amp's natural breakup sound.
The Pro Junior is far Superior!!! Great Demo!!!
Thanks
Excellent review. A Pro Junior with my extension cab would be rad! This review, you're twisting my arm on a mint Pro Jnr (with road case!) that a local dealer is letting go for cheap. My wallet says "no!" but my ears say "do it!"
Those little Pro Jnrs take Fuzz pedals extremely well, so that's another point for the "do it!" column...decisions, decisions...
Pro Junior!
Just got paid! Thanks for the video. Well done.
Just cranked up my pro junior bone stock, amazing amp for the price.
It’s a heat amp
I love dual-purpose items. A guitar amp that you can also heat your home with. Sounds amazing.
Ah ah
Both are good Fender amps but I much prefer the 6v6 sound of a cranked tweed deluxe or champ with either a 3 barrel Tele or a Les Paul with p90’s. That is the sound of music.
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They both sound awesome. But for the price I would go for the Pro Jr xDD Thanks for sharing :D
Thanks for your comment
I always preferred the Pro Junior, but I never realized how close it gets to that Tweed Deluxe saggy fuzz when cranked. Makes me like it even more.
I use fender mustang mini .That enough for practice in my room . Do among two hours everyday
I've always wanted a Pro Jnr. They don't come up on ebay often and when they do they are as much and sometimes cost more than a Blues Jnr.
The Pro Jr is a much better amp. It is true everytime.
I love both
Pro Junior here, just ordered a Joyo American JF 14 to keep the volume down at home.
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does the joyo stand any chance to compete with pro jr for home use?
I’ve never played one…
Another great comparison, thanks! Need to try my amps in stereo, it sounds great and the M9 sounds great.
Diogo Carreira watch the episode about the m9 if you like to hear it more in depth
Thx for this comparison!
I've got an old blues junior, even put a cannabis rex speaker in it. I disabled the amp and use it as a speaker cab with a tweed deluxe and dumble style heads. Blues juniors are thin, ice picky little things. I seen Jeff Beck use two pro juniors in stereo.That settles it.
It’s a great amp indeed
I miss my Pro Junior.
I'd go to blues jams and setup onstage with the Junior on an amp stand pointed at my vocal mic - when I'm singin' I'm blockin' the spill - when I stand aside my mic gets the spill
I like the amp just past the sweet spot and work the volume from the guitar plugged straight in.
Most importantly, the Junior was way way lighter than my old Super Reverb!
That’s right!! And it sounds so good
Thought this was jemaine clement.
You should ask for an A/B box for Xmas :D
Nice video. Thanks.
João Pedro Martins I have two a/B boxs but it adds two cables and different cables, só it affects the comparison. This is just one, cable and amps.
I plug my pro junior into a marshall 4x12..best sounding amp ive ever owned..the cabinet helps project much better..and sound isnt lost when rockin with a drummer
Is a great amp indeed
How do you send the Pro Junior into your Marshall? Is there a mod you have to do I mean
You just use the speaker out that’s inside the back side of the amp
Yeah just unplug the speaker in back of amp and use that output to speaker..im gonna make some videos soon about this and the sounds you get...its very good
I’m sure it is
Great channel Budda !
I have a pro junior and didn't know it cracks that much at 12 o'clock. good to know! :)
I love this amp!
I find funny how you move everything every time on the blues junior just to make it sound like pro junior, the reason I mean is because pro junior sounds more pleasant to the ears. Just my opinion
I'm subscribing to your Channel, It has the info I've been looking for a long time. Your work is awesome, I saw the black and tweed episode and I It must had been difficult to produce. I mean episode 44 is Epic. In that episode I hear the mechanical rattle off the black blues junior with both black and tweed speakers. It's strange because when the black amp is connected to the tweed speaker (outside the black amp) It rattles the same, in that scenario the black amp chassis is supposed to vibrate less. Now I watch this vídeo and I hear rattle in both the blues junior and the pro junior as well. I'm confused. Anyway your channel is the best, you have the best gear to record amps, I can tell because I own a black blues junior and a tweed as well, and they sound in the video very close to my amps in my studio. (Listening through Tannoy monitor speakers). And you get away with RUclips compression! Keep doing videos like this. They are awesome, and forgive me for my bad english, it's not my main language. Cheers !!!!
Thank you so much for your support!!! I think the tube rattled is translated through the amp too, it’s. It just a mechanical problem
Pro Junior all the way!
Great amp indeed
Nice riffs!
Thank you for a great video. I am looking at buying a used Pro Je. And wasn’t sure if it would give enough of that clean, snappy, funky Fender sound. Sounds like as long as it’s not too loud you can, yeah? Thanks again.
But it’s never a clean amp
@@BuddaGuedes Understood it's not *totally* clean (tubes of course). But what would be your choice for a "Fender clean' small 15w amp?
Not really! It’s a little more crunchy than fender clean
Great video!
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The Blues Jr for the WIN. seems like the minority opinion, but I think the Blues Jr. has way more range giving it a richer, deep timber. The Pro seems super compressed...some players like that.
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So heres a fun suggestion... find a 10' JBL for the pro junioir... 🤩
Great tip
Hey Budda, I love the Sound of the Pro. I want to buy one and want to ask you what exact model it is. Is it a newer one or an old. what year? 3 or 4 ...?
Brian Martin the pro junior is one of the old ones, made in america.
Great video. What versions were each of these amps? Pro Junior III or IV? THANKS
Pro junior I
If you position it just exactly right you can squeeze a 12" Jensen Mod in a Pro Jr.. Of course you have to cut a new baffle. The Pro Jr. is a great little amp as is. But the 12" Jensen Mod turns it into a little beast.
I actually like the 10”
Fala Budda! Eu tenho um Pro Junior, e reparei q ele faz a mesma coisa que o seu: se vc reparar bem, em determinadas frequencias, ele tem um barulhinho de vibração, parece que numa mola, não sei. Vc sabe como resolver isso?
É uma questão curiosa. Desde que mudei a caixa dele desapareceu esse problema!!
Just got paid sold this amp..
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Great tones! Love the keyboard sound after 18:38
Do you have any tips to make the guitar sound like a keyboard in that way? (other than the Leslie sound)
Hes def using dirt pedal. Wish he told us which one(s) also wish we could tell which amp hes playing.
I can’t understand what you mean
It's flanger effect
Hey Budda would be great or maybe you can make a part of this comparison to connect the Pro Junior into the Blues Junior Speaker to really hear their similarities or difference in tone! Btw aLWAYS great viewing your videos are great! Oh that M9 is great~! In other matters, Line 6 put out the HX Effects and it looks great!
Jonathan Rodriguez that’s a great idea. Thanks a lot
Budda Guedes you welcome! You got it bro!🤗 !🎸🙌✌️
did you use a strat in this video?
I don’t remember but I probably used my Knaggs Choptank
Boas Budda, só descobri o canal há pouco tempo mas gostei imenso. sou meio noob na guitarra, já toco há algum tempo mas só recentemente comecei a tentar evoluir mais. Sempre toquei numa steel string fraquinha e agora gostava de passar para uma eletrica, mas a nivel de amps estou meio perdido. consideras estes amps boas opções para tocar sobretudo em casa num volume médio/baixo, sendo que os tons principais que procuro são frusciante/hendrix/srv? ou devo pensar mais em amps sem valvulas tipo o katana ou o thr10? obrigado, e boa sorte com o canal
Boas!! São os amps ideais para isso. Amps a válvulas até 15 watts. E esses timbres sacas bem com estes amps. Outro fantástico é o Marshall Class 5
Could you put a different valve in the pro junior so you can get more volume before it overdrives?
You can on v1
I put a 12AY7 in that spot and it was exactly what you're asking for, wasn't stoked on the pro jr. before, but I am now!
Hi Budda, how about an episode were you compare the digital effects of your M9 vs some discrete pedals with similar effects. So we can evaluate if it’s worthy to buy discrete pedals or digital pedal board like the M9
That's a great idea and it's already on my plans to do it. Thanks a lot for the suggestion!
The Pro Jr will sound much cleaner with a higher wattage speaker like a Ragin' Cajun or an ET10.
Bruce H I believe it does. But I really love how it dirts up
It all depends on how you like your dirt; With speaker break up or with a pedal. It's nice to have options. I love my Pro Jr. Especially in tight spaces.
Bruce H since I have many options on amps, I love the breakup on a small headroom amp. If I only had this one I would probably change the speaker as I did on my blues junior
@@BuddaGuedes thanks for this interesting vid. i just ordered a lil buddy (sim to cannabis rex apparently but 10") to warm up my new pro junior. with a EH holy grail and an Xotik RCbooster it already sound great!
Great. Thanks for sharing
GREAT as always. If you have the chance it would be nice (for me:) to review some small mesa boogie. They are trying to sell me a M.B. Subway Rocket as a perfect combo. all valve, Loop effects, Headphones out, good overdrive, good clean. I've also have in the price range a Mark iii Multi class head. For rock , zzTop zep, stooges , guns'r. they look very good but sound wise and daily home use...I don't know (les paul and 70's strat here) Bless. --hope to visit Portugal again next year--
I have a review of both the TA15 and the Ta30 in my channel.
From what I know the Subway is a bass amp!!
@@BuddaGuedes I'll check all of that inmediatly thank you !
@@BuddaGuedes just check, the Subway is a bass amp but no the "new" Subway Rocket, it even has spring reverb, looks really Good ., I'll check your TA15 / 30 videos
Deluxe Reverb next please
mann you are amazing
Eh! Eh! Thanks a lot!
Very nice video, Budda, thank you! The two amps made in USA or Mexico?
The pro junior is made in USA and the blues junior is made in Mexico
@@BuddaGuedes Ok great thanks
great video !
Thanks for your support
Hi Budda, when you crank your amps do you have some hear protection, or you are ok with out the protection ? Thank you , and again great channel !
Specially with your Bigger wattage amps...?
My studio room is very controlled so it's not that loud in the room. Except in the episode with the Marshall Super Bass were I almost died!
You are doing great work and you seem like a F. cool Guy, Thanks for everything !
Thanks for the support!
There are be the same, you must say instead one more valve + 12" speaker VS 10" speaker and less features. Electronics no change
Hey there. More tubes, spring reverb, bigger cabinet and bigger speaker, makes for a very different amp.
Hello Budda What is your favorite amp for clean Fender Blackface tone please (including Mesa Boogie amps and other), for home use.. Thanks.
Nicolas
I would say Mesa Boogie Lonestar or Fender Super Reverb or bandmaster.
And for a low wattage amp please ? Thanks
ncoyouth that's hard because low wattage and clean tones are almost never together. But the Princeton reverb, or the deluxe rever, or even the Mesa boogie transatlantic are good low watt options.
Thanks, very kind. Nicolas
ncoyouth I have a 1965 Blackface 'Princeton Amp', -- not the reverb model. The non reverb Princeton's have a *lot* more head room than the Reverbs due to having only one one preamp tube. I can barely get any breakup even at full volume with my single coil guitars. i think it's probably the exact kind of low watt Blackface clean you want, if you can find one for sale. They seem to be a lot more rare than the Reverbs.
I got the fender bassbreaker 15 what you think of them
I’ve never played one
The pro jr is a better sounding amp.
@@keithclark486 I've had a few of both amps and like both but the junior just sounds better to me.
musically smart man
Thanks
@@BuddaGuedes just brought one today very happy takes pedal extremely well thanks
Great
@@edwinmartinez9787 Which one did you buy?
I brought the blues jr pro western with eminence speaker returned it great amp but got the blues jr 4 Humboldt with eminence speaker great amp more flexibility to tweak especially volume cause it has master and regular volume
Never cared for the Blues Jr. at all, so my sole purpose here is to see if the Pro Jr IV sounds better. I already have a '68 Custom Princeton Reverb and a kit build of a Custom Deluxe with 3.5 Watt ECC99 power tube output (Tube-Town Emma👍😎). So I feel like I already have Fender tweed and 6V6 tones that blow away than anything I'm hearing here. I'll take a pass on both - neither one really does anything for me. The Pro sounds small, nasal and boxy. YMMV.
i wish the Pro Junior had a 12" speaker(less Knobs)
David Lutke I love 10” speakers!!! But you can always mod it!
Thanks for watching
David Lutke i have mine running through a 2x12 cab and it sounds great - use the cab out
Did you ever try to inverse speakers?
(Bjr in a 10" & Pjr in a 12")
No I didn’t but it’s a great idea for a video.
Thanks
I did it! I just bought a aby...
Both togheter are just undescredible. TOTALY AWESOME. 10" + 12" = pefect sound!
If there was a way to cut bass on the PJ, I’d be all in on it. I know some people like farty, flubby tone, but I can’t stand it.
There’s a very simple way. Just add an eq pedal
Well it work to plug intogether threw a boss me25
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Daktakatah
This looked like gibberish til I said it outloud haha.
Tem como o Pro Jr distorcer menos pra tocar mais jazz tone, tipo Julian Lage?
Sim. Usando menos volume l, menos tone.
@@BuddaGuedes isso não tiraria muito da potência do amp? Pelo que entendi a proposta dele é ser um cruch/distortion e não clean. Baixando o volume da guitarra ao invés do amp ele satura menos?
Baixando o volume da guitarra é como baixar o gain
@@BuddaGuedes legal, eu gosto mais do timbre vintage do Pro Jr, mas to em duvida porque o Blues Jr parece ter mais recursos e mais headroom. Pretendo ter um amp apenas para som mais clean com leve crunch.
O pro jr é excelente
Is it normal for the Pro Junior iii to hum a little? If so, will it affect recordings and live gigging? Very close to buy the one i tried in my local music store.
Great playing btw. Cheers
Heyhoe they don’t hum. What sometimes happens is that I’m too close to the amp with single coil pickups
@@BuddaGuedes it hummed even with guitar unglugged
It happened to my Vox and looks like it could be the single coil thing, especially when cranking the volume up to push the tubes.
Edited to add, I'm torn between the 2, but I think I like the tone on the Pro Junior more than the Blues Junior.
They are two cool amps but the pro junior has more mojo actually
Jesus Loves You
No soul in the blues jr
Really?!?!
can't watch you because of the cussing... I have a daughter in the room.
ok
Fuck off
Heard of headphones?
I didn’t understand that
sm57... ugh. that's not a real microphone... that's what a million ears are used to, but that frequency response is whack for a mic.
but great vid though! pro junior is fantastic!
Mics are like ears. Not always the best mic is the best solution.
Mics are tools so when you want that midrange the 57 is a great solution.
Thanks
SM57 has been & will be on more records than the OP ever will
What’s an OP?!