Hughes Autoformer (Does it Steal Power?)

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @salvagedvr
    @salvagedvr 2 года назад +2

    The Autoformer kept us in the park and off our generators at Blue Bell Campground at Custer State Park after all the power greedy Class A's arrived. If anyone asked, I just said; "Oh that? It's a surge protector."

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 2 года назад +35

    I'll trade you 8 amps for 17 volts. One of the best explanations I have ever heard of inductive and resistive loads. Thanks Chad. Please, please let us know when the study is done. Keep the good stuff coming guys.

    • @preachers4135
      @preachers4135 2 года назад

      Ditto!

    • @jeromep
      @jeromep 2 года назад +1

      Ditto. I’m also amazed at the number of commenters who don’t understand the inverse nature of amps and volts and continue to insist that the Autoformer “stealing” power. Amazing!

  • @justcurious4754
    @justcurious4754 2 года назад +8

    Loved my autoformer. Had one for years and I'm convinced it saved me repairs and premature motor replacements in things like our residential fridge A/C's etc. You might note that it is not designed to be in standing water. I had to put mine up on bricks to keep it off the ground, that is until we got it mounted in the RV. People think of their power like they think about their water. You turn on the faucet and water comes out, no problem. You plug in an electronic device and it turns on, you have electricity, no problem. Right up until the time something burns up. Now lets talk about the wisdom of visiting the desert southwest during summer LOL. We stayed at Nellis AFB last year. Got there the first week of September and the power was bang on with everyone running A/C's when it was 110 out. Got to get your paperwork squared away. We even let the Navy stay there :).

  • @JohnSmith-lw2bm
    @JohnSmith-lw2bm Год назад +1

    I have had 133 volts before in Wyoming. My progressive industries surge protector opened up. It is after my autoformer.

  • @mikefromwv1010
    @mikefromwv1010 2 года назад +3

    I've got about 35 years in the electrical trade and that was one of the best explanations I've heard. Good job, and thanks for the video

  • @DaveThomasautoformers
    @DaveThomasautoformers 4 месяца назад +1

    The autoformer works the same way the electrical grid works; just on a much smaller scale. Transmission power lines that run hundreds of miles will see a huge decrease in voltage, and then a huge gain in current, which then goes into a transformer at a substation where the high current is turned back into the right voltage. In the autoformer, it monitors the voltage waiting for it to be at 113 or lower, which then automatically controls a relay to divert power to the main tap on the transformer. The autoformer's circuit analysis uses around 3-4 watts. The rest is all passive. A 50 amp or RV220-50 utilizes 2 transformers and each leg of power operates independently. The RV2130 (30 A) model is a single. For those that believe it steals power; It's not magic, the technology has been around since AC power was first introduced. If a device existed that created more wattage from wattage given, a nobel prize would be given and the global energy crisis would be solved..

  • @patireland3345
    @patireland3345 2 года назад +1

    Tis not power theft. Tis a supply issue that needs to be resolved in parks that have the potential of this problem. Really appreciate this video.

  • @philcraine3289
    @philcraine3289 2 года назад +10

    You always do a great job explaining things. As to the stealing power, this is complicated. Does it "take" power from others for your use, no. It does not "steal" power, what you are interested in is insertion loss or efficiency because you are using a very little more power than if you did not use this. This unit is doing work, that work takes some amount of power. So, in your example of 6,000 watts and your rig will use 6,000 watts of "power" regardless of this box being in the circuit or not. But this insertion loss thing means that when you are using it, you will be using slightly more power (I think 1-2%) more power than if you did not use it. This means that the rest of the park has 60-120 watts less power available than it would have if you did not use this box. If you want to make up for this power "loss" turn off a light bulb or two. For those that are perfectionists think of that extra 120 watts and measure that against 50 rigs each using 6000 watts = 300,000 watts, pretty insignificant. Does it in fact intrude on anyone else in the park, no. Sorry but no. Keep up the good work, you tread where I would not dare go.

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад +1

      Nailed it! I asked huges about power loss due to heat and they said around 1%

  • @dianasellars6114
    @dianasellars6114 2 года назад +2

    This is a great video, it addressed ALL of our questions. We bought a Hughes Autoformer 2 years ago when we kept blowing the breakers trying to run our ACs in 113. Best thing ever, even if it was a little pricey. We hard wired ours in this summer, now we don't have to worry about theft or controversy since it isn't seen.

  • @stevendunsford4568
    @stevendunsford4568 2 года назад +14

    I never thought of it as “stealing power” as opposed to sharing the limited capacity of the parks distribution system or utility limited capacity. If the park was designed with no diversity factor & every site has full voltage at max load & the utility is providing full voltage then there is no issue. If the park can’t provide full voltage at max load then those without a autoformer will have to reduce their load to maintain voltage and those with won’t. Those with an autoformer are drawing full demand while rose without can’t. I understand what your saying but I’d have to do a deeper analysis including the limited capacity of the park and probably vary the analysis for different utility voltages.

  • @petenelson8136
    @petenelson8136 2 года назад +7

    Thanks for the explanation. This was my very first purchase for my GD 384GK, even before I accepted delivery of it. Like you I installed it inside my rig so the only thing outside is my power cord. It works GREAT!! I've also got a small meter inside plugged into one of my outlets so I can see exactly what kind of power I'm getting inside the 5th wheel. Keep the video's coming, love your channel.

  • @cudaragtop4108
    @cudaragtop4108 2 года назад +2

    Been using Hughes Autoformers for several years. They work great and have kept us powered whenever park voltage drops.
    Get one, hook it up every time you connect to shore power and enjoy more reliable power.
    They cannot draw more current than the Park Breaker will pass. Simple physics.

  • @LuvSubbin
    @LuvSubbin 2 года назад

    Excellent video! We've been using a Hughes Autoformer for many years. As you say, there are passionate people on both sides. When doing our research, we came across a hater that had one of the funniest statements ever made on the internet: "YOU PEOPLE KEEP FOCUSING ON OHM"S LAW. IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY!!!" Ummm...

  • @LyfUninterrupted
    @LyfUninterrupted 2 года назад

    We keep a 5th Wheel in Mexico at an RV park by the beach that is notorious for power fluctuations and outages. Just ordered this as well as the install kit to keep it away from prying eyes. Thanks for the excellent explanation of how this system works.

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад

      Hope it works well for you! 👍🏼

  • @19rockjeeper99
    @19rockjeeper99 Год назад

    Super helpful video. We have had our Hughes Autoformer since 2014. It doesn't have as many fancy lights as your newer model but it works very well. My only complaint is it is pretty heavy but well worth it! Keep up the good work and best wishes!

  • @oldengineer1519
    @oldengineer1519 2 года назад

    I start with the voltage is low because of an undersized campground electrical system. I then explain to the folks that autoformers do not steal power anymore than another camper on the same circuit steals electrical power. No matter what my campsite is limited to 30 amps by the pedestal (assuming 30 amp site). What the autoformer allows me to do is trade some of that 30 amps the trailer can use for a higher voltage. Since the trailer can no longer access the full campsite amperage I have to reduce the number of electrical appliances I use simultaneously and that usually means switching to gas for those appliances that support them. If someone wants to see the math I can do that but keeping it simple and explaining it as a trade off for my site generally works best for most folks.

  • @bonniejohnson7067
    @bonniejohnson7067 2 года назад

    We have a 50 amp Grand Design 5th wheel. We bought the Watchdog EPO when be bought the RV last year. At some older campgrounds, the Watchdog shut our power off around 107 volts. We were dead in the water! The campground told us it was junk and to turn it off! I hardwired the Watchdog, that wasn't possible. I spoke with Hughes, and ended up getting a B Stock Autoformer. Haven't used it yet, but will be using while snowbirding in Florida. Just a little nervous about campgrounds giving us grief about the Autoformer. Thanks for your help....PS saw you at a GD Rally!

  • @WILDEBILL308
    @WILDEBILL308 2 года назад

    Good explanation. Most people don't understand that low voltage creates heat. You are right the benefit of the surge guard used with the Hughes Autoformer will extend the range of power you can use. Personally I wouldn't hard wire it in just yet. It will be easier to move it to your class A when you get it. 😁

  • @jeffsteele1295
    @jeffsteele1295 2 года назад +1

    I have had the autoformer for sometime now. I do not think I have ever heard it explained the way you did. I know of some professors that never stated it any better than you did. I just keep learning more and more from you ! Thanks for letting me watch ! ! !

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад

      Glad it helped. When we get the new RV, we will be hard wiring it into the new rig along with a watchdog.

    • @DanO181919
      @DanO181919 8 месяцев назад

      @@ChangingLanesDo you have a video on this?

    • @DanO181919
      @DanO181919 8 месяцев назад

      Never mind I found it 😊

  • @terrygillis9909
    @terrygillis9909 2 года назад +1

    Nice video. I have a 30amp Hughes since 2017 for our class B. Last year bought a 50amp which I easily installed inside the basement on our class A. Have never had issue with either one. Great product.

  • @Formulabruce
    @Formulabruce 2 года назад +1

    I used to build Boost transformers for customers that needed 220 volts and only had 203-208. Cost about 90 bucks to build today I imagine. I see its very handy with protection and indicators.. looks great!. I would use one ! Great way to simplify things, wow!

  • @Todd_S
    @Todd_S 2 года назад +1

    I bought my Hughes Autoformer over three years ago. It's been great and they don't steal park power. I use it mostly at my home when plugged into 30A shore power.

  • @grouchinthewoods4995
    @grouchinthewoods4995 2 года назад

    I've had are Autotransformer for almost 3 years now. Works great. But I was informed that you do not have to send it back to Hughes to replace the Surge Module. I carry an extra Surge Module with me. The 50amp Module run $60 on there website, but you can catch them on sale for $40.

  • @PrecisionClays
    @PrecisionClays 2 года назад +8

    I've been using a 30A Hughes Autoformer for a few years. It is great, does exactly as it should. Good advice on the separate surge/low voltage guard to shut down your RV if thresholds exceeded. Haven't had that happen but most of my use has been in the paddocks of race tracks. Had a little low voltage at times which the Hughes Autoformer takes care of. Nothing outside it's capability yet and I have the cut-offs you discussed (over/under voltage). The wires will always handle the amperage they are rated for BUT the voltage will drop over distance.

  • @becsmom89
    @becsmom89 2 года назад

    I was so excited to watch this video as my husband (Bob) has been pulling his hair out trying to explain batteries, solar, etc to me. I followed for about 60 seconds and then WAY over my head. But Bob watched and learned a lot from it. So thank you for that. Keep all the good stuff coming. Hope you both are doing well. Daisy too!

  • @robertshannon8947
    @robertshannon8947 2 года назад

    Fantastic explanation of volts to amps. I bought a trailer back in the 80s and at the Rv Park the voltage was 90 V on a 50 amp cord. Needless to say I only get to live in that trailer for 11 days before it burnt to the ground and took everything I owned …

  • @RobMan
    @RobMan 2 года назад

    Couple things. #1) I delayed buying one for the exact same reason. it finally occurred to me that RV park owners are going to say exactly what you said, Your breakers, Your problem. That was the deciding factor for me. I don't care if it does pull extra from the system, I can hide it in my compartment and if they can't even find and fix their own problem, they will never find that. This is me fixing my problem.
    I personally don't think the Hughes Auto former is guilty of doing that though. #2) I have the 30 amp version. When I needed to replace my surge module they sent it and I did it myself. BTW it was a month old and yes it was due to bad park power. That park was the reason I bought it.

  • @mattkaminski6618
    @mattkaminski6618 2 года назад +1

    Great video. There's another good video out there on the Autoformer explaining, in detail, on why it does not 'steal' power from anyone else; but, it's a far longer video, is far more technical, and your video does the same thing in less time, easier to understand, while still reaching the same point. Great job!

  • @billdoyle3443
    @billdoyle3443 2 года назад

    Great video! Based on your video, I ordered the 50 amp autoformer from WalMart. Got it for $501, and got $45 back in capital one rewards. Great deal!

  • @michaelmacdermott6340
    @michaelmacdermott6340 2 года назад

    Bravo Zulu Shipmate! Reminds me of Navy B Double E school! I was an Instructor at Great Lakes at the end of my 20 years, and because I took the instructor course I can definitely critique you. You did a very good job in instruction.

  • @davidew98
    @davidew98 Год назад

    Thanks for explaining this. It can't steal power from the park. It is maxed out to the breakers at the pedestal. You can't take more than that! It's just cleaning up the power

  • @KRich408
    @KRich408 2 года назад

    It's just a Transformer like the ones used on the telephone poles, takes a voltage and adjusts it , a transformer can sacrifice amps to raise volts or volts to raise amps. I had extensive training working for a Tree service that had a exclusive contact with PPL power to provide maintenance and emergency work. It's impossible to "Steal Power" there.

  • @daniellel256
    @daniellel256 2 года назад

    We’re been using a 30amp Hughes autoformer for years and enjoy the piece of mind. Have fun with your new purchase.

  • @tomquinn03
    @tomquinn03 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video, this is such a contested topic. As always, you're very clear and concise in your explanations, you make it very easy to understand. I installed the Hughes Autoformer in the electrical bay of our 2020 Newmar Dutch Star, utilizing a component install so I can bypass any component that may be inoperable or not needed - the cord reel, Surge protector or Autoformer. I am using the Hughes Watchdog with Emergency Power Off after the Autoformer for complete protection. The bluetooth capabilities of the Watchdog with their monitoring app is a great resource and extra protection.

  • @rjoslinwork1069
    @rjoslinwork1069 2 года назад

    Great informative video. You guys are the best channel out there in RV land. Keep it up!

  • @donnac.1609
    @donnac.1609 2 года назад

    Great explanation!!! I have run into low voltage in rv parks all over Arizona!! And Utah....

  • @Brigand231
    @Brigand231 2 года назад

    Great video! I think it was JD from Big Truck Big RV who did a video on this product a while back, but didn't explain it as thoroughly as you did. A lot more clicked for me after this video and makes more sense now. Thanks for another good video!

  • @johnclancy7607
    @johnclancy7607 2 года назад +2

    Great video. Been using a 50 amp model for 3 years and it has been a game changer. The summer before I got it I had issues at a few parks where the ac would cycle up and down and my outside frig would overheat and shutoff. After talking to a neighbour at a park who had one I was sold. I wired a 50 amp plug inside my camper basement so I can use it or not.

  • @petitchenil
    @petitchenil 2 года назад

    Great video. When we first started out we just had a surge protector and a digital plug in voltmeter in the kitchen outlet. One place had power at 103v and it dropped to 95v when the AC started. We had to forgo the AC and switch the fridge to gas. After that I got an autoformer and Hughes power watch dog with EPO and Bluetooth. Since we normally do dog shows and sit on asphalt with 300 other rigs in the heat of the summer we could not make it without the autoformer. Normally we only have 20A at the shows and the difference the autoformer makes is the difference between running one AC or not. And with good voltage, say 120v and higher we can run both AC’s on 30A. Right on the bubble in each case thanks to the Autoformer. Those few amps saved matter. Plus the equipment runs better at 120v than 105v. I’m also glad the code issue was cleared up as the NEC can’t reach to a plug in device. If anyone is dealing with low voltage they need to look into the Autoformer.

  • @kimcolangelo180
    @kimcolangelo180 2 года назад

    Great info. Hope Tara is continuing to mend well.

  • @scottforrest2097
    @scottforrest2097 2 года назад +1

    You guys have the best rv channel on RUclips. Thank you again. God bless. Hope to see you on the road someday.

  • @loufranklin
    @loufranklin 2 года назад

    Very good explanation of how the Autoformer works, I always thought the naysayers are full of it saying it put more pressure on the campground power system!

  • @sunbtanman7354
    @sunbtanman7354 2 года назад +1

    We have one we've been using for about 4 years. We go to a particular Park we've had some problems in the past. Then someone told me about this we got one never had a problem again.we have it hard-wired in so no one even knows we have it. This way you don't have to deal with your neighbor next to you saying you're stealing HIS electricity.

  • @toddramsay977
    @toddramsay977 2 года назад

    That was a great geek out on power video!. I love your how to/how it works videos on power, solar, inverters, even water filters and other utilities in an RV.

  • @NationalRVTrainingAcademy
    @NationalRVTrainingAcademy 2 года назад +2

    Great test and explanation.

    • @preachers4135
      @preachers4135 2 года назад +1

      @ NRVTA Thanks to you Tuesday’s are better than they’ve ever been!

  • @davidherz9597
    @davidherz9597 2 года назад

    Awesome content, as always!! You made something that could be confusing very simple to understand. Thank you both for all of your segments; they are honest, informative, and interesting to listen and learn from. We would be lost without you. We (my wife & l) appreciate your time & dedication to your channel

  • @Assassin1959
    @Assassin1959 2 года назад +1

    Great video and great info. I don't have this particular auto former, but I do have their watch dog Hughes protection surge guard. I've been thinking on getting a Hughes Autoformer and I think you just convince me of making the jump.

  • @brianclemens2707
    @brianclemens2707 2 года назад +1

    Nice video Chad. Being a engineer with mobile power experience in broadcasting I support use of the Hughes. We did the same thing with larger 100 amp Stabline regulators for years!

    • @billdelong
      @billdelong 2 года назад +1

      Also a huge thanks to Tara as well for all the hard work in the editing that she does to make these videos HGTV quality!

  • @robertrenner7804
    @robertrenner7804 2 года назад

    Thanks Chad. Great video. We bought and installed a Hughes autoformer in our power bay on our 2019 Newmar Mountain Aire motorhome after a horrible week in South Lake Tahoe at a Thousand Trails campground with 102V. Couldn't keep the surge protector from cutting power. Now it's a standard part of our power circuit with the Progressive EMS in between it and the coach for further surge and low voltage protection.

  • @computerfixer06
    @computerfixer06 2 года назад

    I like your explanation of how these work, you changed my mind on if they are a good or bad thing to have. That said, as a weekender I don't think its worth the expense for us. I already have a hardwired surge protector with high and low cutoff like yours, since the Hughes would be a supplement and not a replacement I can't justify the cost for just weekend trips. We could just go home if a park had big power problems. I'll put this on the 'must have' list if we ever go full time though!

  • @ottyfields
    @ottyfields 2 года назад

    Followed you guys for a while and even posted about the Autoformer on your Las Vegas video. I work in the robotics field and deal with single and three phase power all the time and know what low voltage can do to circuits. I have always run the Hughes Autoformer in all my RV's. Best thing to get is the hard wire kit, so nice to not lug it around and leave it out in the elements. Keep up the informative videos.

  • @kenselberg4299
    @kenselberg4299 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing. I too have run into the problem of low voltage and wondered if there was a solution. Good overview of ohm's law.

  • @stevendaniels7179
    @stevendaniels7179 2 года назад

    Fantastic and simple explanation. Could not have been better.

  • @Green_Ninja1979
    @Green_Ninja1979 Год назад

    Amazing insight. Very clear reasons why to have this system setup.

  • @wendywolfe8684
    @wendywolfe8684 2 года назад

    Wow! We took so many notes! We love all the different types of videos you put out. Thank you!

  • @RoamingwiththeRamsays
    @RoamingwiththeRamsays 2 года назад

    Chad as always you are bringing the good stuff. Wish we had one of those when we were in Maine last year and had a Low Voltage problem like you had in Las Vegas. When I went to the park about it all the did was kick us out and tell us it was our fault. Anyway, we do use a Hughes Autoformers Power Watchdog surge protector which shuts our power off at 104 volts to protect the trailer. One thing I can say about Hughes is there customer service is great and the products are awesome. I know, technically that was two things....

  • @ACKCSC2024
    @ACKCSC2024 2 года назад +1

    Great explanation great video.
    I Maintained a 50 pad rv park in a country fair grounds for a time.
    The voltage drops were usally loose screw on terminals in the distribution system this generates heat ( its amazing what just hitting all the screw termals in the box will do for voltage)
    The current would expand and contract wire loosening connections. Resulting low voltage
    Second issue was caused by under sized 16 ga 100 ft extension cords drawing 20amps
    The third was water getting into the electrical boxes.
    The forth issue was worn out breakers in the panel itself. IE: Your voltage might be at 120v but because the breaker has been blowen so many times they are weak and wont pass full current (amps)
    Probably part of your issue in LV.
    From my understanding, the power company has taps on transformers that they can adjust for low voltage on your branch if you call and complain they have to provide you 120 +/- a given % at the meter someone who has worked for one correct me if Im wrong.
    I had an issue at home where i kept blowing breakers on a fridge turned out water had gotten into the meter base and corroded the connections.
    This gave me 90 volts at the outlet
    Love your channel your info is always well reseached and spot on.
    kept up the great work...

  • @cablemanf250
    @cablemanf250 4 месяца назад

    Great Demostration, just ordered one to go with our WatchDog 👍

  • @scotttunstall9513
    @scotttunstall9513 2 года назад

    Great lesson for those who don't understand electricity.

  • @horizon42q
    @horizon42q 2 года назад

    Best purchase you made for your RV

  • @timaz1066
    @timaz1066 2 года назад

    This is another reason why I’m glad I dry camp 90% of the time as I follow the weather and have solar.

  • @jayward4600
    @jayward4600 2 года назад

    Great explanation of Volts/Amps/Watts. Bought the 50 amp Surge Guard on your recomendation and have the remote readout to monitor power usage. In some parks in the summer power can become iffy with two AC's running. Looks like I'll consider the Autoformer next (as a former broadcast engineer I do understand step-up transformers) but want to wait for Mike Sokol's report (I'm a subscriber). Keep up the great work, safe travels.

  • @arthurgandy8363
    @arthurgandy8363 2 года назад +5

    I have a motorhome with three heat pump/AC units. I built in the Hughes AF a couple years ago but I still use a pedestal surge protector bc the 50 ft 50 amp power cable and the power reel is over $1100 to replace. Worth the money in my book. By the way, on your recommendation we camped in Franklin NC last year. Did we enjoy it? Well we are going back for the whole month of September this year. Thanks!

  • @dennishall8709
    @dennishall8709 2 года назад

    My friend I Absolutely appreciate your videos everything that I read that you post is beneficial to me and for that thank you thank you

  • @stevest.martin3940
    @stevest.martin3940 2 года назад

    I’ve got a Hugh’s hard wired in to my tiffin Great investment

  • @Chrisa197088
    @Chrisa197088 2 года назад

    I hard wired ours in. Really easy and piece of mind that it cannot walk off.

  • @GunsmithLC
    @GunsmithLC 2 года назад +1

    Great video... I had only heard about these units about 3 months ago - and most who used them did hardwire them inside the camper so as not to run into 'permission' issues with the campgrounds.. It appears that a few disallow these units (if they find out you have one)... So, I'm looking forward for your video on installation.. :)

  • @mmmasterscross7915
    @mmmasterscross7915 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing your real world video review and helpful and informative!

  • @ronaldsimmons8346
    @ronaldsimmons8346 2 года назад

    great presentation on a subject that's kryptonite to most of us mortals.

  • @bobpurs
    @bobpurs 2 года назад

    Nice explanation Chad.

  • @BVN-TEXAS
    @BVN-TEXAS 5 месяцев назад

    It doesn’t steal power but it does exacerbate the problem. And if more and more campers use these it’s going make the voltage lower and lower.
    All it does is trade boosting your voltage at the cost of additional amps.
    The root cause is an inadequate supply to the RV park.
    The problem is if all the RVs start using boosting transformers it’s going to increase the amp draw more and more till it gets to the point of kicking breakers or voltage drop beyond the ability for the boost transformer to boost.
    What the best solution is using a portable 240 volt step down transformer with adjustable taps to get a steady 120 easy.

  • @spencercall5011
    @spencercall5011 2 года назад

    Thanks Chad. Great video. Tara, super great editing.

  • @JohnSmith-lw2bm
    @JohnSmith-lw2bm Год назад

    Have my autoformer mounted inside the front storage area on my toyhauler. No one can complain if they can’t see it.

  • @mnmandthegang
    @mnmandthegang 2 года назад

    Great video, I need to get one, we always get down between 106-110 at this park in Cali

  • @Erical65
    @Erical65 2 года назад

    Another great job simplifying a confusing topic!
    When the autoformer is actually working how hot does it get? Too warm to keep your hand in contact with the case? I guess what I’m curious about is heat a factor to consider if you mount it internally in the RV?

  • @stevendunsford4568
    @stevendunsford4568 2 года назад

    I have chosen not to build any thing in at this point in order to have the greatest flexibility to remove it if needed if I have a problem. Example I’ve had parks say electrical issues I’ve had weren’t their problem but my power monitor, so I replaced it with a neighbors and showed them it was the same with a different monitor unit. If I had a coach power issue I could take out the monitor and autoformer just to eliminate them from the equation. Same with my triple water filter, if one should develop a leak I can remove it from service easily

  • @simonlawson2772
    @simonlawson2772 2 года назад

    Great video and explanation. Have been using an autoformer for 3 yrs of fulltime living. With a background in electronics, an EMS that does not rectify the faulty condition just seems silly. What good is knowing the power is bad and being able to do nothing about it? Lol

  • @testersbc1
    @testersbc1 2 года назад +1

    chad yo udo a great job explaining these things!!

  • @markjackson1970
    @markjackson1970 2 года назад +1

    I don’t know how you made me understand this Chinese arithmetic, but you did. Another excellent video from you two. I’m getting me a wristband made WWCD. What Would Chad Do. 😁

  • @sunnypringle
    @sunnypringle 2 года назад

    Yall put out great informational video 👍

  • @allens7476
    @allens7476 2 года назад

    Great explanation. At first, I thought, "Boost 10% ? where does it come from?" Then I realized the extra was already leaving the pedestal and was just being re-arranged by the Autoformer. Even more curious is that RV parks don't have a 50 amp breaker for every pad. They might have a 200 amp breaker daisy chained to 6-8 pedestals. The theory is that not everyone is using 50 amps. (Until they do)

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад +1

      We've never been at a park without a 50A breaker at each pedestal. Pretty sure that's against code to not have a breaker for each circuit. 😳

    • @allens7476
      @allens7476 2 года назад

      @@ChangingLanes I have. Just a 50 amp plug in a box a foot off the ground. Very rustic (ahem). But, let me clear, the pedestal I referred to might have a 50 amp breaker, but the main distro box cannot supply 50 amps to each pedestal at once. So if eight sites all used 50 amps, the main breaker in the distro box, 200 amps, blows. Now all eight sites are dark even though their individual pedestals are not tripped. I stayed in a park that was getting new wiring. I asked lots of questions. They hated me. That's how I learned they were following a "formula" that told them everyone doesn't consume 50 amps at once. At midnight we lost power, so I marched to the main panel and reset the breaker. The next day the panel had a lock on it.
      (They also used direct burial cable instead of conduit, which I thought was penny wise and pound foolish, but that's just me. In a campground where people drive stakes and there's lots of tree roots, etc.)

  • @KevinCoop1
    @KevinCoop1 2 года назад +1

    In someone else’s video, they were talking about being illegal to use Autotransformers in RV’s. I immediately grabbed my NEC and sure enough, there was a change stating that Autotransformers are not allowed in RV’s. I contacted Hughs and asked them if the NEC affected them. I got an email back fro the companies President. Hughs autoformers are NOT classified or within the definition of an auto transformer in NEC.
    Please do something for me. Plug into shore power, turn on all of your AC units, all TV’s, and a few other things. Get ampere readings on L1, L2, and neutral. If you were tripping breakers in 100F interior ambient that much, I’m thinking you have a very unbalanced load. With everything being utilized at 120 volts off your 240 volt panel, it is very easy to have imbalance. You would have to be in excess of 45 amps for it to trip in approx. 1.5 hours one one leg. I can’t believe you have that much load. Maybe you do. Please let me know what loads you find. Respectfully, Kevin

  • @duaneb193
    @duaneb193 2 года назад

    Chad, thank you (as always) for a very easy to understand explanation of what the Autoformer does and how it can affect an RV's systems any why we should be aware of the issue. Because we changed out our front AC unit to a much newer and more efficient one our power consumption in the wonderful warmth of Vegas wasn't as high, but now having a better understanding about this unit, one will be added to our repertoire of necessary items to have.

  • @PaulKling
    @PaulKling 2 года назад

    I was wondering why use inverter(s) for all loads? Use shore power just to charge batteries. My guess is autoformer are pretty cheap in comparison to multiple inverters?

  • @billdelong
    @billdelong 2 года назад

    Thanks to both Tara and Chad for another top notch HGTV quality video, I really appreciate these tech reviews the most, but also appreciate the balance you both offer as well with cool family trips and tips, keep them coming!

  • @razmondpush2971
    @razmondpush2971 2 года назад

    Great Video even without sparks flying around...lol You got me started on yet another research project...thanks. Love you three, where were the others hiding, missed 'em.

  • @brucegruenbaum
    @brucegruenbaum 2 года назад

    YABV! (Yet Another Brilliant Video). Thanks Chad & Tara. I think I know the answer to this, but just to confirm: The Surge Guard will still plug into the pedestal and then the Hughes Autoformer will be downstream from it, not the other way around. Correct? I think it doesn't matter, but I think I'd rather have the Surge Guard trip outside the RV. Comments?

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад +2

      Hey, Bruce! Autoformer first, then surge guard. otherwise, the surge guard might shut off low voltage before it's boosted...

  • @ABC-oo4vm
    @ABC-oo4vm 2 года назад

    I’ve said this before, but apparently my words go unheard. So I’ll try this once more, Next time when your in Las Vegas- go to mount Charleston. It’s can be as as much a 40 degree difference in the national park on mount Charleston compared to being down below in the valley.

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад

      We heard you. 😊 We'd planned on getting up there but ran out of time. For the record, we were only in Vegas once.

  • @jerrygolden3584
    @jerrygolden3584 2 года назад

    We have had ours for three years now and it isn't something we even think about. It has protected us without incident. I have a Hughes surge protector on the pedestal and then the autoformer. I do this so I won't have to mail that lead weight back to Hughes in case of a blowout. I hope it actually works that way if I experience a bad issue.

  • @mikestanbro6619
    @mikestanbro6619 2 года назад

    Very well done! I am an electrical engineer and could not have explained it any better.
    Question: does the auto-transformer have an objectionable hum? If mounted inside the RV, I don’t want to listen to a loud 60Hz hum all night long.

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад

      Good question! Tara won't tolerate objectionable noises even if they come from me! Well.. especially if they come from me.
      I didn't hear anything when testing, but we didn't have it under load either. We'll find out next time we use it.

  • @tjshaw4441
    @tjshaw4441 2 года назад

    Mark from Our Journey in Myles uses and swears but the Autoformer. If you do not know he is a retired Engineer.

  • @garyhogan7881
    @garyhogan7881 2 года назад

    Thanks Chad. Technically it's a little above my paygrade, but you made it very clear.

  • @robertnasser9937
    @robertnasser9937 2 года назад

    I hated that you had issues with power here in Vegas in the summer, it is a dry heat (ha ha). We live north west of Vegas and we have had no power issues at our parks. We use a Hughes internal power system

  • @markwoods7237
    @markwoods7237 2 года назад

    Great and informative video. 👍👍👍

  • @dennycappetta2035
    @dennycappetta2035 2 года назад

    Great explanation, Chad. It certainly would have been the best piece of electrical equipment during your Vegas stay. The Variac adjustable transformer is not garbage though. It has it's place in the electrical world.

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад

      I think the variac we had was deffective. With 120V in and a small load on the system, we couldn't get more than 110 out.

    • @NationalRVTrainingAcademy
      @NationalRVTrainingAcademy 2 года назад

      I use it for testing purposes. Great way to explain ohms law vs watts law. Mine was missing a faceplate screw right out of the package. It’s an entry level quality type product

  • @cujo7240
    @cujo7240 Год назад

    Have you ever had high voltage problems coming from the pedestal that the Hughes Autoformer actually made it worse with the 2% boost? In my experience the most common problem is low voltage, but what exactly is the upper limit for safe RV voltage? I plan to get the Hughes Autoformer and pair it up with the Hughes Power WatchDog, so I'm hoping this combination will protect the RV from both low and high voltage situations in addition to surge protection. Any thoughts or comments on this Chad?

  • @frankhoward2417
    @frankhoward2417 2 года назад +3

    Hello Chad, good info in this video. I retired from the energy sector so could follow what you're saying. And I really loved the way you said it. You'd be a great instructor. I watched your video on the Las Vegas low voltage problem. My question is, do you encounter low voltage issues often?

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад +2

      Thanks! 😊 Not very often at all. At least not below 110. But, while the autoformer's boost of 110V to 121V might not fix a run/no run issue, it will give our electronics and motors longer life by running cooler. And, when we DO run into a park like in Vegas in the future (103V) it might mean the difference in running or not running AC units.

  • @htwnkid
    @htwnkid 2 года назад

    Great video, your explanation videos are my absolute favorites, they really are very helpful. Safe Travels.

  • @lanedelker9161
    @lanedelker9161 2 года назад

    I understand power equations, but you explained that better than I have been able to before. Good job. But what happens when a campground has a rule of no autoformers if you're already hardwired for one? Now, you need another switch or shutoff in your wiring.

    • @preachers4135
      @preachers4135 2 года назад +1

      If it’s in the rig how would they know you have one?

    • @ChangingLanes
      @ChangingLanes  2 года назад +2

      Thanks! 😊
      In my opinion, the RV park has no business with what's inside my RV. They just need to supply the (up to) 50A we agreed to when they advertised 50A and we paid for a 50A site, even if that 50A is at 103V.

  • @878ryanjones
    @878ryanjones 2 года назад

    So do you plug it straight into the box? What about a surge protector?