How did you read the thumbnail, because I am debating with Joey more than the show now And y’all already disliking before the video even ended THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT Edit: ok I completely didn’t realize my wording, when I said “non-binary people” in terms of garnet’s relationship I MEANT I saw people negating ruby and sapphire as lesbian, aka “they’re non-binary so it can’t be lesbian.” Non-binary lesbians exist and I did not want to deny their existence, so my apologies for poor word choice, I just didn’t like people saying they can’t be lesbian And I meant peridot was aromantic, not asexual since asexual people can still have romantic attraction
Personally, I think that children's media should be held to higher standards than adult media, because of the demographic it's being shown to. Children are incredibly impressionable and we need to be interrogate what we're showing them. Because, realistically, the tv and RUclips are all most kids have.
Oooh interesting point, never thought about it like that but you’re right they’re the most impressionable and maybe shows need to be more aware of what they’re showing
depends what you mean to a higher standard. Do you mean a higher moral standard? Sure! But a higher standard for quality of writing and storytelling? Well, that's not realistic since it's much much MUCH harder to write a compelling and evocative storyline when you have to dumb things down and spill them out for your audience (and with kids shows you have yo do that cause they're kids, they might not get subtext and complex storylines)
@@FredericChen This is something I think a lot about, because I want to be a school teacher for elementary school aged kiddios. What messages are we putting out into the world for children to absorb?! You can't tell your kid one thing, but then sit them in front of a tv that tells them something different. Obviously, no tv show is going to reflect every value every parent wants to instill in their kids (which is why we need to be limiting the amount of tv children are watching*), but ya know... Perhaps we shouldn't be showing children tv shows where characters that are Black (coded) are the most aggressive on screen. Someone else brought this up in the comments, but a lot of Black people were soured by Sugalite being... Like That^TM. (Thank you for mentioning that, btw. I find many people, when discussing this SU, try to skirt around the racial implications, and it's like... No, baby.) Also, it's kinda weird how much of exposition comes from Garnet. It's giving magical n*g*o vibes. That ain't cute, either. *I am perfectly aware of the fact that this is not feasible, because most parents work and don't have adequate resources for child care. This comment was made as a best case scenario, of sorts.
@@botanicalitus4194 I think they're talking about how kids shows should be held to a higher moral standard because of how impressionable kids are, especially younger kids.
steven universe was such an important point in gay cartoon history, its one of the main reasons why we have gay kids shows today and i think thats amazing
@@softhusky , modern family started a calamity of how homosexuals are represented by media, Steven Universe put a stop to that whit Garnet, but alas, that didn't last.
most of the episodes is hinting that gay is okay but cuz of hoe conservative ppl are they used crystal gems to indicate things that are taboo and they covered up all the evidence so if ppl wanna ban the show they won't have proof to ban it u need to be smart when u watch steven universe because there is many hidden messages
True, but he was literally given a solution that would defeat him but didn’t go against his personal morality. A little too convenient for my liking. Also I do agree with Frederic.
Also when I first watched Avatar when it was first aired in 2005 I hadn't grasped how serious everything was since I was still so young and it was mostly comedic most of the time. It wasn't until I literally watched it again last year did I realize that Avatar & Korra had so much dark realities (discrimination, familial trauma, genocide, corruption, murder, war, etc).
Yeah I’m getting pretty sick of the “killing is always bad no exemptions” thing in media because the plot hole of protagonists not really doing anything to stop the villains from continuing to hurt people is grating At least aang took away ozai’s powers so that kind of neutralizes him and also his whole pacifist Buddhist thing is really important to him and that’s a big part of his character But yeah that needs to fucking stop
I feel like Avatar The Last Airbender dealt with the topics of genocide and war much better with the main character coming to terms with the fact that his entire culture was destroyed.
they also did better with pacing of the episodes with the shadow of the ongoing war and the main villain not leaving the scene while making time for light, funny episodes
@@koi3159 ST’s fillers are kind of… ehh?? they don’t follow plot, and most of the fillers aren’t even canon.. i haven’t watched it in a while, so i can’t remember all the fillers, but there was only 5 episodes in each season that had canonic plot, except for.. i think the last season. i hated the fillers for ST and skipped almost all of them, except for maybe 1, the cat ice cream sandwich one. ATLA’s fillers are canon. they aren’t actually fillers but they are fillers at the same time. the island episode with zuko, azula, ty lee, and mai is a filler but it digs down into canonic backstories of the main side characters, characters relevant to the plot, characters we need to know about. the way ATLA deals with fillers is honestly an art. sometimes the “fillers” are heavy and deep, sometimes they’re light-hearted, but they always find some way to connect it to the plot. another example: the episode where katara and sokka got sick. although the whole “sucking the frozen bodies of hibernating frogs” thing was filler-ish, the use of the episode was supposed to drag on suspense, when zuko, iroh, and june tried to track down the avatar in the same episode. even if that was a filler episode, it still had plot relevance. why did i type all this out
This. Yep f who ever dumped all the n*zi BS in it, only to try to make them "redeemable" an failed miserably, at having even a miniscule, MINISCULE chance of that.
I think it would have been really cool and more effective if somewhere toward the end of the series we saw pink's life story but this time in chronological order so we realize that she GREW out of her toxicity and became the nice caring considerate person she is, rather than have it the other way where we learn about her toxicity later on so that's the last thing we think of her
Pink wasn't exactly redeemed though, at least not to me. She was steven's mom and she loved him and she did what she thought best, but that doesn't exclude her from the wrong she made and the friends she hurt, including steven. She was young and naive and they showed us that part of her, not as a redeeming point but as a statement, so that steven could then learn to accept that pain and move forward unlike pink, he ended what she started, but that doesn't redeem her, nor in my opinion make her better (that being said I do think she was more caring and open minded than the other diamonds so yeah she was morally better than the others) but nobody is perfect, the diamonds made the effort to change after all, even if change is hard, which is what matters. Except it doesn't matter all that much cause its just a show, its not perfect, but its good enough. :3
@@valerialamav What bothers me about pinks character is that they kept adding terrible stuff to it without ever having her do anything about it. I agree that they just had steven fix all of her mistakes, and that makes it harder to think that she ever did become more caring. She had all the time in the world to fix things but she chose to have a kid before getting her life together. What I mean is that having steven fix all those problems makes me wonder why she never tried to. They didn't think about what it said about her that steven had to free bismuth after pink just left her in a bubble and lied about it. Or what happend to spinel and volleball. and even the human zoo. It makes me feel like she just had steven so she could run from her responsibilities. Which is sad because I liked rose before that.
I feel like a lot of people instantly exclude anything lgbt related from potential criticism if it isn't obviously bad or seemingly bad on face level ( Q force on example comes off as horrible here based on trailers )
Q force was pretty decent not amazing and the stereotypes were cringey at times but I think that was the whole point of the show, it mocks stereotypes because they're stupid which makes it funny. And steven universe is amazing ignoring the fact that it represents LGBTQ it is easily one of my fav shows
I also feel a lot of people hold lgbt shows or things with minorities to a higher standard then then the ones that don’t have them. Edit: I also forgot to mention when the writers of that medium are part of a minority group as well, it gets criticized even more.
@@Andyatl2002 yeah I think the same it's an amazing show and just because it "represents lgbtq" some people hated because it wasnt exactly how they wanted dit to be
@@user-fg9st9bj5b And then they solved it with a song. I don't understand why the solution was for her to be dependent on someone else instead of learning to live without someone elses validation. That's the only part of the movie that really bothered me.
from apparent theory channels, friends and research: to my knowledge, the hugs and kisses ending was due to CN rushing their ending. the reason in mixed between it being "too gay" to just it being too long take what i say w/ a grain of salt:)
@@asmooo4557 Not just the series finale. We're talking about how all of the issues in the show are solved with hugs and kisses. Like the fight with the diamonds. I think it was just the series finale that had to be rushed out. But even then they probably coulda gotten rid of some of the less important episodes of the last season and used the extra time to do something else besides a hug.
There were so many obstacles for this show. Terrible managing, marketing, and budgeting on behalf of Cartoon Network. The reluctance to show queer identities and cowering to homophobic countries (Ruby is given a mustache in some international releases). The story Rebecca wanted to tell got lost in translation a bit, but I love the show for what it is, not for what I wanted it to be. ❤ I still think its wonderful and I hope SU gets released on a better platform to reach a higher potential. I always thought a spinoff "Lars of the Stars" would scratch that ich I had to learn more about the Gempire and the origin of the Diamonds and still be homogenized enough to feature "Bad guy of the week" storytelling for re-runs. Maybe one day :) But yes, some "fans" of SU really are scary and abhorrent, unfortunately.
yeah. I think SU was severely mishandled and it's a shame it had to have a rushed ending. there's definitely a lot of valid critiques given how many things the show tried to tackle. it's a shame but I'm glad it existed
Lars of the Stars seems to be a reference to Space Pirate Captain Harlock along with a few other shows of similar genre. so maybe check that out if you want to watch something like it.
@@-Matchuchu- I like kids shows tbh, they're good in a different way. "adult" shows are sometimes so morbid and force the underlying messages in a unattractive way. It normally puts me off
@@loverboy6149 I mean that's not a problem, we'll if you're mature enough. It's just there but I do think they overdo it sometimes. Certain shows can balance it all and some are overkill with some narratives
I remember the episode where LARS LITERALLY DIES and they just brushed it off. Steven heals him back to life and the episode continues as if a major character in the series didn’t just croak. And then!! They push Lars into the background, even though he now is part of the major lore of Steven’s healing abilities and what Lars being pink like the lion means!!
honestly that was kinda scary and shocking. so much happened in that one episode. he literally went through a psychological transformation and then died. steven coudn't heal him before he died?????? and then boom he's a pink zombie and also a portal. it seemed like they treated his DEATH lightly.
Honestly, I didn't see much of the ending of SU besides future so I'm not sure what did or didn't happen, but: I think it would be really cool if Lion was the first creature on Earth Pink/Rose saved. She had the choice to leave him but instead brings him back to life, and seeing him happy and healthy and bounding around, thanking her, she realizes that saving is so much better than destroying. Also I really wish Lars had a PTSD rep as well for his death. Having multiple representations of what it can look like, especially in traumatized children, could help a lot of people in my opinion. Again I don't know if any of this happened, just going off what I do know.
@@Cybo-18 Yeah that episode was so f*cked up! I would have been so upset to and SSadie was being so selfish in that episode, but none of this was referenced ever again I belive
I didnt like that Connie was built up to be Steven's knight but then Steven just ends up mostly fixing stuff himself... i wanted her to have more of a role in fighting wih him
@@awts..7954 the whole song, Rose = Steven Pearl= Connie, the whole song is making Connie into Pearl, making Connie maybe facing similar traumatic and emotional stuff that Pearl went through, when Steven is gone Connie would face a HARD problem just like what pearl went through.
I would have loved to see Blue Diamond's sentimentality towards Steven drives a wedge between her and Yellow and White, causing a schism in the Diamond authority and dividing Homeworld as a result.
Honestly it could've been amazing to see a diamond rebell with her court and the crystal gems and maybe even have yellow join later on and they could've defeated white together with actual war tacticks instead of love. Could've had a lot of lore and backstory while they try to convince steven to if not kill but at least inprison her on a distant planer in anothet galaxy.
I think it’s sort of supposed to be like they cancel each other out, and when they fuse, they have to set aside their differences (and they have a lot) and once they can get past that and fuse, they’re chill.
@@izzy_pappas750 that could be it, but it doesn’t make sense how Amethyst and Garnet clash. Pearl says that there personality’s clash when we first see them form. If anything there personalities could go well together I’d think. Not that the character they fuse into isn’t cool, it’s just off
@@livvyyyyyyyyyyy That’s just it: they don’t clash. They amplify each others’ worst tendencies. Sugilite is temperamental like Ruby and Amethyst with the cold ire of Sapphire. She has Garnet’s bluntness mixed with Amethyst’s lack of a filter and brashness. Garnet as a fusion exudes a lot of self control because Ruby and Sapphire work so well together. Adding Amethyst skews the balance, especially since her personality is so dominant, making Sugilite what she is. It’s sad she’s still black coded and codifies some not so good stereotypes about aggressive black women, though.
I feel this way about Connie, everything Connie’s mom was afraid of is what Connie became. Her personality was reduced to Swords and studying. In steven universe future, and in the movie, she only exist to help steven.
@@Marixchatt man like i could just be looking at it wrong, but Connie's character started getting on my nerves when they started trying to make her be included in every. Single. Thing. (Specially fights) Like i feel that Connie should be included in fights but i hated that as soon as she gets better with the sword she started acting like every mission she needs to be front and center. Like girl you are a human and i know you gained confidence and a safe space with the gems and Steven but i just didn't like how she tried to always make Steven feel bad if he didn't want to risk taking her because she not part gem and could really die- Honestly i look at things differently and take em different ways but that's just me take on Connie's character 😭 (sorry for the long rant i just really needed to say that)
@@ceeyuh5002 yes, but most of it was waisted and they reduced her to Steven’s love interest who happens to only show up when they need her for sword related reasons.
idk if he’s said this yet but something else me and other black people who have watched the show have realized, there’s quite a bit of stereotyping in the show. sugalite (who’s black coded and voiced by nicki minaj) is one of the most aggressive and irrational characters. i loved the show when i was younger, but as i mature im realizing a lot of stuff that’s not ok with it :/
@@mei3786 it’s like even though the character is not black, they are supposedly in the black community (this definition is not 100% correct, i recommend you check google)
@@mei3786it usually means the character isn’t a human, so they don’t belong to a certain race, but the writers and artists include certain features that make them appear black. garnet had fuller lips, magenta skin, afro textured hair, and was voiced by a black woman. so while being a gem and not having human race, she appears black to the audience.
@@mei3786 Coding, in this context, refers to the act of giving human characteristics to non-human (fictional) characters. In Steve Universe, the gems are not human; they're aliens. They don't have a race or a gender, because those are purely human constructs (this is why you will see some people refer to the gems as non-binary characters). However, based upon the way they're drawn, the characteristics/attributes given to them by the writers, and sometimes even the people who voice them, we are to understand that certain gems are to be thought of as certain races. And yes, this is on purpose. Characters like Garnet and Sugalite (to name a few) are coded as Black. They don't *look* like Black people (because they aren't human), but they are drawn with features that are associated with Blackness and are also voiced by Black women (Garnet is voiced by Estelle and Sugalite is voiced by Nicki Minaj).
@@felicityb93 ah ok :) thank you for explaining it to me ive seen some people say that characters "act black" when explaining it? (not anyone here just whenever i have tried to get people to explain it to me) is that not racist? no one explained it to me and it kind of made me feel weird about the term
the "it's a kid's show!" argument when it comes to solving problems (especially serious ones like gen0cide) with "hugs, kisses and friendship" is so bad to me. kids also need to know that those things can't fix everything. also kids shows can be a little more explicit with it. look at avatar the last airbender and the first three seasons of winx club!
Steven Universe is the only childrens show I've ever seen this happen in. Typically villains either get defeated, sent to jail, or die. In Disney movies they typically die.
@@icecreamhero2375 Yeah it was so weird, like worse was seeing lots of people saying "but is a kid show they can't kill the villain", because like you said even Disney kills their villains and many times in gruesome ways
@@ShutYourDream to think Rebecca supports sexualizing teens even though there was an entire episode about how stebonnie being sexualized by Kevin was not okay is kinda weird. One of the things sugar wanted to do with stebonnie was to show that when you become a teenager people see you differently. And unfortunately that means getting sexualized in some situations.
@@ShutYourDream correct me if i wrong, but isn't stevonnies age meant to be Steven's age + Connie's age? In that case I don't think the design is that bad. They look like a young adult which would be their canonical age. And I don't remember many scenes of them being sexualized? Are there any specific or is it just the overall design? I remember her acting in a pretty innocent and awkward way. I think her personality sort of shows a young relationship well. She's awkward, anxious, etc. Isn't that what teen love I like?
@@ShutYourDream I kind of thought that with Garnet and Amethyst fused together, the fusion might be more aggressive because of their personalities. Garnet is strongest of the group, fights with her fists, and is passionate, and Amethyst is kind of like a wild child who’s more chill and relaxed but can get out of control sometimes. Their fusion is just a combination of passion and a bit of wildness (I don’t know of a better word, sorry). Pearl holds herself with a lot of grace and dignity and is intent on following rules and being super precise, so it just seems that the gems she fuses with will have a little bit of that. I don’t think that the show meant that two black coded gems fusing is less proper than a black coded gem and a white coded gem, and that it’s more based on the gems personalities. While the characters might unintentionally fall into some stereotypes, they’re fleshed out and each have some backstory and development. It is a flawed show, but it still tried to dive into deep topics whether it’s handled well or not. EDIT: I commented a little bit early before I got to the part about Sugilite. I do see what you’re saying, and I won’t deny that there is some racist undertones. Might not be intentional, but definitely unfortunate that it’s there. Hope I didn’t come off wrong.
In my opinion I don’t even think rose was supposed to turn out into the character that she ended up as. I feel like the writers wrote themselves into a corner and then just used roses character as a scape goat since we knew barely anything about her and the writers were too lazy to come up with good and logical reasons for her actions.
Agreed... I was so pissed that we learned nothing from her character at all they explianed nothing... Did u watch amazing worlf of gumball I love that show & it totally ended on a big cliffhanger & now they say the show is not coming back ( forgot why I read the reason why on Google though ) anyways I can't believe it was even cancelled with the ratings being so high?#!
Nah it was planned from the beginning. There's charts and time lines and everything lol (in the art books, particularly in End of an Era, it shows how they wrote it all out! Just cuz u don't like something doesn't mean it wasn't planned :) lol) I thought it explained everything but cool if u didn't like it, everyone has different tastes.
It definitely was planned, but the execution was horrible since they showed her entire development backwards and never showed how much she improved at the end and made her look like the biggest villain of the entire show.
@@jagp135 I don't think that's horrible execution, I think it's turning audience expectations on their heads and forcing us to interpret a character in a nonlinear fashion :) ! All the characters feelings abt her are actually... very personal to them, just cuz they are upset at her doesn't mean she's "shown as the biggest villain" on an objective scale imo. Let's agree to disagree on the quality of the execution lol I just think it was unique and different to show her backwards that way esp for a kids show but to each their own, and hey, someone has to appreciate it, right?
@@lucilleballs2291 I feel it wasn’t planned. Since it took too long for the cracks to be seen and the plot to move along. Even more to pearl who was supposed to be with rose when her tantrums happened. No story is fully planned at the start. Everything changes in development just like how games may had made a main character a guy but changed to a girl. They might say they wanted a girl but in reality they just say so to sound smart
I think the issue with a lot of shows like Steven Universe is that they were created as streaming services became more popular. Filler episodes are good for cable TV because you can just scroll through channels and dip in and dip out without having to know what the entire plot is about - it's exactly why sitcoms were so popular. But because a lot of people watch it on streaming services now, it's such a glaring issue with Steven Universe
I feel like the cluster was actually supposed to be a whole body of broken gems and only it's arm was shown but the show made it feel like the cluster was just a hand.
"gay space rocks expressing their love" Along with Peridots "what with all the crying, singing, crying while singing" probably the most apt description of the show
20:54 I saw a video try to explain Spinel’s fighting ability and what they came up with is the fact that she’s a gem that’s designed to be a playmate so the whole “fight” is a game to her, she’s playing with them. This is mostly based on her line at the end where she goes “I don’t wanna play anymore” and then THAT’S when she gets bad at fighting cause she’s TRYING to fight which isn’t what she was designed to do Kinda goes against everything that Pearl is supposed to stand for in the show but they’ve also kinda established with Bismuth that gems who were made for a specific task and had the skills to do so just pivoted to something else but within like the same skill set. Idk where I was going with this I just started with the Spinel explanation and my brain ran with it
Like the episode where Steven opened up a class or something where all gems 💎 from all over could come there & change for the good & he gave them tasks to do at a amusement park doing things they don't normally do & all hell broke loose then he puts them where their skills shine & all was good!!
@@armcollector6660 yes! Amethyst helped them more than Steven did 💀 It was supposed to add to his downward spiral but I think it was rushed. Like it was explained as “I’m always helping people or about to die so now that I’m not doing either I’m falling apart” I also have issue with buff Steven like I doubt even just teenage angst would spark that whole transformation I don’t understand why he went full diamond other than for plot
@@disgr_ace yes amethyst is amazing lol she is my favorite... I also didn't like how they didn't let lapis character develp like paridot ( I started to really love her she is hilarious ) they just really kept her the same... But them not giving more info on rose 🌹 I was pissed bout that one lol I mean they didn't get into anymore bout her there was so much more We could've learned imo... Did u watch amazing world of gumball I loved that show? But once again they ended on a big cliffhanger & then cancel the show ( I read somewhere why bit can't remember ) also the ratings were really good so I can't understand why really they chose to do that!! Hope u having a wonderful weekend!!
@@armcollector6660 I don’t remember why Gumball got cancelled. I wish there was more development for SU characters too like more time for stevens trauma (other than the wild diamond stuff) and omg Lapis and the diamonds it was too much that got too little I also hope you’re having a good weekend!
Peridot was my favorite character, especially after the cluster arc. I really related to her since she was autistic coded and I am too. On my first viewing Lapis was my favorite, but since then I’ve had some *stuff* happen and yeah, I absolutely see her as an abuser. She’s been hurt, and lashing out is something hurt people do, but she can’t be my favorite anymore. She doesn’t take responsibility for her actions, she just makes jasper feel inadequate and then throws her away. Don’t get me wrong, jasper is certainly a bad guy, but that doesn’t mean she should be treated like garbage.
There's so much of this I agree with! I started getting into Steven Universe during the In Too Deep bomb. So because Lapis was so prevalent at this time (on like Instagram and whatever), I think I started gravitating towards her. I'm guessing a reason was because I thought she was so badass to my younger self. Once I started getting the full picture of the show, Peridot was so likeable and became my favorite character. I think at some point I saw something online that made me realize she's done some very deplorable actions. Also, I just wanna say that I really like your profile pic!
As a fan of this show, I'm really glad that we're openly talking about the flaws the show has despite the toxic fans that may feel offended. It's so interesting to see others perspective in a show I love so much and learning about flaws they might see in it! I really wanted to thank Frederic for spreading his opinions on the show regardless of the toxic minority that may reply with nasty comments. It's always so refreshing to hear his honesty regardless of what others may say :) Thanks for always inspiring others to do the same!
honestly, I've only recently discovered of how many people get aggressive whenever anyone talks about the show in a negative light, maybe cuz I wasn't really ever talking to other people about it and didn't interact that much with the fandom online. Steven Universe is extremely special to me because it's one of my few comfort shows but despite that I knew that it wasn't perfect. Remember y'all, things you like aren't immune to critism !! 9:08 this is exactly how I felt about the show when I was really into it, that was when I was younger tho, I agree now with the things you said
Agree... I may be a little old to love amazing world of gumball but I love that show & ended with a complete cliffhanger I was so pissed I really loved that show!!
Ppl got pissed SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of the deluge of nitpicking, criticism, and hatred from something called the "SU Critical Community," which lasted for years. Of course they're gonna get defensive! Steven Universe had a hatedom so big and so prolific that fans felt cornered because the hate was disproportionate and hypocritical when compared with other shows. I don't blame u fir not knowing about the shitstorm, but please understand it's a huge reason for the defensiveness against criticism within the community. We've seen and heard every possible criticism of the show, it gets tiring sometimes! Like we get it lol.
@@lucilleballs2291 It wasnt disproportionate at all, show doesnt need defenders it should be able to defend itself. This show had a LOOOT of problems no not nitpicks but huge problems like the entire characters being ruined.
I love Steven Universe, but I know it's not perfect. Saying it's perfect would mostly show that you have either not watched most episode or haven't gotten to SU future yet. Some of the main themes in this show is friendship, history and progress of the gems, and most importantly revelation of flaws. They could've done or shown certain themes better but honestly it's a pretty good show none the less. To think any show is perfect is quite odd to me, anyone can improve in everything they make. Hopefully people can understand that just cause you like a show doesn't mean you have to defend it like a shining knight. Let others have their criticism and chill out... Really wished they dove more into Jasper w/out cutting the series short, sad days. (@-__-)
Agree... Also I wish they would've gotten into rose 🌹/pink more bc I feel like we still don't know much but I guess since we learned she was a toxic gem 💎 I feel like that's where they wanted to leave off but I still wanted more info on that
@@armcollector6660 Yeah, honestly if the show wasn't rushed I feel like they def would've gone more in def into everyone. These stations rush certain shows which always ruin it for the fans, they might have comics though.
“Steven Universe is trash” vs “Steven Universe isn’t perfect” are completely dif opinions and honestly I agree with you it isn’t a perfect show… but no show is and that is okay :)
I think this show is a perfect "what you should never do" with the creation of a seires, it's just my opinion (don't want to attack others that like it), but i consider it the worst series of cartoon network, and, in some way, you can learn from it as much as from the best ones.
I think lots of people are protective of it as well as the fact that it's got lgbt rep is also the mental health conversations in it. I know that when I first started watching I was going through a very rough patch and episodes like mindful education and Pearl's arc really resonated with me. I had a massive fall out with a friend and lost all my friends and it was something I was still (and still kinda am processing) during SU run and during the show I saw a lot of myself in both Pearl and later Spinel when you lose people who were important in your life it fucks you up That said as you and everyone is saying you can still enjoy the show and resonate with it but you can do that while also understanding the flaws it has
Also, I wished the writers would just let some of the villians BE VILLIANS. Some people are just bad and a hug and a few heart-warming moments cant change that.
the diamonds : being against fusing and etc for thousands of years going as far as to kill them steven : but.. what if we just... don't ? the diamonds : aight.
I cannot begin to thank you enough for not calling the diamonds "space n*zis" like some people in the fandom seem to love doing. As a Jewish person, this annoys me to no end! I mean, it's one thing to use a term like that ever, it's an entirely different story with just how WRONG it is! The diamonds (and the entire gem civilization) are clearly modeled after European colonialism/imperialism. Even the "examples" most people give of why the gems are n*zis exhibit direct parallels with European colonialism. The human zoo is a direct reference to Belgium's history. The strict caste system of gem society is very reminiscent of similare systems found throughout history in Europe. The specific form of genocide the gems partake in is far more akin to the genocide of the native american peoples than it is to the Holocaust. The building of gem colonies is well... do I even need to point that one out? At any rate, I think I've made my point. I think the part that horrifies me the most about this isn't peoples' flagrant misuse of the word "n*zi", it's how willing people are to ignore the horrors of European colonialism. At any rate, great video and thank you for talking about some of the ways this show does miss the mark a bit!
I'm glad he didn't use the term or said that Rebecca Sugar tried to "redeem n*zis". No. Stop saying she's a n*zis apologists. She's jewish, don't do that comparison
@@feeno1188 I didn't even know she was Jewish. That makes a lot of sense though. People really love comparing the actions of Jews to the n*zis or trying to suggest certain Jewish people sympathize with them. It's super common, even in progressive circles, and it's incredibly antisemitic. Like, I don't care how "valid" you think your point is, find a different way of making your point because comparing a Jew to a n*zi is always antisemitic unless they are literally showing active support for n*zism.
@@gabrielblack5805 she's technically half Jewish since only her father is but they grew up celebrating Jewish holidays and considering how Steven in the show is mixed, you can see how she drew form her personal experience
I've been meaning to rewatch the show. I was 14 when the show was out and suffered through the Steven Bombs, multiple hiatus, the fandom and their messy behavior/actions, etc. Yes, you can like something with their flaws. I wish the fans would stop putting Steven on a higher pedestal. I like the show too, but they were things that were never explained and not having so much freaking filler episodes. However, I still applaud the show for their LGBT+ rep and being incredible for having a complex plot. Just wish things were more neatly done and not rush to fit in an 11 min or 22 min episode. Thanks for the video, Frederic! I would love to see your thoughts on Steven Universe Future.
FInaly a good way to go about it, people should have standards and putting show like that on a pedestal lowers the standards and hurts the entie community.
For me Steven Universe was a show that had really great moments, but as a whole kinda fell short for me. Overall though, I liked it! I give it a 7/10. (Oh and if anyone wants another gem related show I highly recommend Land of the Lustrous! ^^)
(The only issue with Land of the Lustrous though is that it pulled a Steven bomb and it’s been on hiatus for I think 262 days now or something like that. It’s been serializing since 2012 and the chapters were made monthly, but I still think it’s worth checking it out if your interested)
I'm fairly certain the reason Garnet's fusions lean so heavily in the direction of whoever she's mixed with is because of how she's made. She's made from two archetypes. An elegant and cold princess and a hot headed butch. So when she mixes with someone, whoever they are will amplify one of those two personalities. You aren't mixing with Garnet, the level headed leader, you're mixing with ruby and sapphire. So if you mix Ruby with Amethyst, you get a hot headed party girl and if you mix sapphire and pearl, you get a "controlled" and "elegant" person. It does make sense, it just has unfortunate implications because the purely elegant person whose most visible is Pearl, who is pale skinned, but there's also Sapphire who is not visible but involved, and she is also depicted with skin darker than her hair with full lips, which codes her as dark skinned as much as Amethyst is coded. Besides, I doubt this did any harm to any child's perception of people with skin as dark as mine, it would be hard to read Sardonyx as anything other than black herself, I think she literally has dark brown skin and a non-white voice actor. To me, all I see is disaster lesbian vs refined lesbian.
The biggest reason there are so many filler episodes is that Rebecca really wanted to show an equal part of steven’s human side and gem side. But.... these episodes get very boring, yes
As much as I loved the concept of anthropomorphic gemstone aliens and queer themes, I sadly think this show was really flawed and tried to tackle too many serious topics at once. You know something is not okay with your story, when a troubled teenage boy gets treated as a villain for most of the show and then killed for "redemption"; while a genocidal space dictator gets forgiven and doesn't face any repercussions just because she blushed.
The Real problem for me was at the end were they tackle the problem of "what would you do if you mother was hitler?" also the message of "just talk until things work out" loses its impact when you dont have an invencible shield like steven
Yes!!!!! This is what I’m saying!!! (context for where I’m knowledgeable: I want to be a storyboarder for animation and I am currently in art school). There is a certain amount of leeway for animation but this a professionally animated show, not some animated short from a person who is just starting out so there needs to be consistent character models. Also for a plot driven by three warriors and a war: there needs to be fight scenes that feel well-choreographed. I watched Steven Universe over the summer just to see what it was about (also for Spinel) and there is a lot of basic filler, almost from the very beginning. For me, with the characters I liked them but I liked the idea of them. They each had their own personalities that were fun but they felt shallowly developed. Rebecca Sugar and the other writers took a very very VERY soft approach to conflict. Like, Amethyst and Greg in the first half of season one. Their relationship is kind of chilling to watch. Amethyst almost refusing to let Greg grieve and dealing with her own grief by adding more trauma with her shape shifting was not good. Which is fine for a kid’s show if only it wasn’t only about Steven in the end. It’s been a while since I watched it but sometimes that doesn’t matter when the long-lasting impression I got from the episodes was that things can only happen for Steven and around Steven. this is a jumble of thoughts so if you understand what I’m saying that’s cool and if you don’t then I get that too. I don’t like how just because Steven is the titular character, everything single thing has to revolve around him. Cause are you telling me that these three gems (which I would say are hmm at least a several thousands of years old) and Greg, an adult man who runs a business and has had plenty of life experience, have almost no autonomy of their own without Steven being there? Steven is like twelve in this show,, that is terrifying thought which I don’t think comes up enough from any of the adults in the show.
I think Kill La Kill pulled off the idea of space fascists much better in just 24 EPISODES (Also the main character of that show is a lesbian). Because my family is too broke to send me to art school I decided to teach myself animation. Right now I'm working on my own show called Terraria Tales. The story boarding was done at the back of my maths exercise book, the backgrounds were done on MS Paint and all the animation was done uing Flipaclip (all free btw).
@@timtam3730 OOH RAD!!!! Yes!!! That goes with another point!! How did they not even deal with the repercussions of the giant space war and genocide well in any of the many many many episodes??? We could think about Avatar: The Last Airbender which had three seasons with like 20 episodes each and dealt with the genocide of the air nomads in I think episode two or three. Which there are still problems with the show,, at least the audience saw that they weren’t going to ignore or gloss over the stuff that has happened as a result of the war. In Steven Universe, the corrupted gems were like an afterthought. Like “sure yeah that did happen but now they’re big scary monsters so while they were our friends that we fought with for hundreds of years, we aren’t going to attempt to help them until Steven says so” (Also that’s so cool about your show!! What’s it about?)
I do have to agree that Steven Universe does have a lot of filler episodes in the beginning seasons, but as it starts to develop each episode has some bit of lore or information about the gems or the world of Steven Universe. Like in the frybo episode, this episode kinda explains gem magic/technology (whichever you think it is) with the crystal shards possessing the suit which somewhat explains the gem’s magic ( but it’s kinda weird because no other crystal shards in the show was ever shown to have this power). But this episode does show that in this episode it explains a little more about gems as aliens. Edit: Why does Frederic explanations for Lapis being abusive kinda sounds like Shane Dawson's reasoing for doing black face, being a pedophile, and etc 😐
I think cartoon network is to blame for that the higher ups wanted something of line like TTG so they needed to make episodes that still appealed to the younger audience hence why there’s a lot of filler episodes that don’t really move the main story forward
I’m really glad you brought up the differences in animation. It was really annoying for me even as a 13 year old. I hated when they changed lapis’s color to almost a neon blue rather than the navy and soft periwinkle she was when we first saw her.
I see and understand your criticism, and it has changed my perspective on the show. I was very blind to pacing and the racial issues in the show, but after hearing this, I can see why people are displeased with the show. I still love it, and I thank you for your valid criticism.
I never understood how fusions work. Not as in “I don’t get how two gem make one gem.” I don’t understand anything about how it combines the personality. (And I say this as someone who would put SU in my top three favorite TV shows) Mainly, I never understood why Garnet’s personality is almost never presents her personality in any of her fusions. Amethyst is very clearly the main presenter in Sugilite. You could argue that its also partly Ruby, but then where’s Sapphire in all that?? Plus we didn’t even get introduced to Ruby at that point. Pearl takes over the fusion for sure in Sardonyx. You can’t tell me for even a moment that Ruby or Sapphire or Garnet is in there. That’s just Pearl but now she’s a talkshow host. Sunstone to me feels very strange. I personally don’t think it fits Steven or Garnet, let alone both of them. Part of it feels like Garnet’s role in the fusion is “TV Personality personality.” Like, Sardonyx is presented as a talkshow host/comedian. Sunstone (to me) is presented as a weird mix of a kid show character and an infomercial person. (Sugilite is Nicki Minaj and Garnet is Estelle is also partially an argument towards it.) So why doesn’t Garnet present more when she’s just Garnet?? Outside of fusion, Garnet’s only time she reflects that kind of personality is in Steven’s dream in Chille Tid when she shows up and gets applause. (The other option is Garnets fusion-presenting trait is “This gem starts with the letter S :)”) Especially I don’t get why Garnet’s the “quiet one” but most of the “quiet one” fusions are Pearls (with the exclusion of Sardonyx, the one where Garnet is present.) Especially when Pearl is, in my opinion, kinda talkative. Like, Pearl and Amethyst combine and make Opal, who then has FIVE lines in the entire show (not including the movie). I feel like Opal’s personality and Sardonyx’s personalities would make much more sense if they swapped. Pearl and Amethyst making Sardonyx, the chatty comedian? Checks out. Pearl and Garnet making the silent and elegant Opal? Makes sense. I also never got how Rainbow Quartz with Rose and Rainbow Quartz with Steven are as different as they are. Like, I get that Steven’s his own person and all that but they’re almost opposite each other in my opinion. I do think Rainbow with Steven is a better fit personality for a Pearl fusion than Rainbow with Rose though. I kinda understand Alexandrite and Obsidian being unclear on personality due to the sheer number of members each one has, but also kinda confused on how 3-gem fusions (Sardonyx, Sugilite, Sunstone) are the most talkative ones but then you add one more gem and they become quiet again? I refuse to think about Steg. The only fusions that I feel make sense for their personality and context are Malachite, Stevonnie, and Smoky Quartz. Other than that, I don’t get how any of them make sense as the combinations of their parts.
@@isafalcon275 As far as that goes, the shows crew confirmed that the limb counts/designs of the fusions are based on what looks cool. On size, it depends on the stakes, so moments with high tension will produce giant fusions for the dramatic effect.
I think I heard an explanation for Opal as basically Amethyst and Pearl's personalities cancelling each other out. Sort of. Pearl is very single minded but spends too much time in her own head, while Amethyst lives in the moment but her attention drifts a lot. This amalgamates into Opal, who's intensely focused on the present moment. Opal is a being of zen.
I feel like that is the point of Steven Universe you know the world isn’t perfect and it dealt with PTSD and the aftermath of not having stuff do after a hero saves the day in its farewell season.
I’d love to see you talk about Steven universe future. I think in the moment I was invested because the mental health issues were much more prevalent in it but also it was so rushed and kinda odd. Especially the resolution of “hugs we love you”. It was just too simple of a solution and everyone felt out of character ngl. I loved watching the show but I agree with the critiques you made
In regard to Pearl and Garnet fusing, I think the idea is that Garnet is already a balance between emotion and logic, chaos and order. Saphire is reserved, logical, cold, ordered. Ruby is outgoing, emotional, passionate, hotblooded, chaotic. SO when amethyst who is much more in line with Ruby fuses with Garnet its a 2-1 vote for chaos and hotblooded rage. When paerl who is much more like saphire fuses with Garnet is a 2-1 vote for order and elegance. But just a theory there =)
I love the show but I almost 10000 percent agree with all the criticism I've seen, it's not the most problematic thing in the world but it can be problematic still.
Just so you know, not a nitpick, the Steven Bombs and terrible hiatuses were by and large network decisions, not the choice of the cast and crew :) they kind of got screwed over in that regard!
The thing about the "If Steven isn't there, then it doesn't happen" is that the crewniverse made the show so we as viewers only knew as much as Steven. And that scene with Lars and Sadie was the crewniverse saying "Just because we didn't show you this, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen!"
Jasper deserved a proper redemption, she had so much potential as a character (also Jasper getting redeemed instead of lapis would've been interesting)
I've always loved the show for what it says for young boys. It really normalized the act of having emotions, Steven in the show cries unlike many other shows where the characters rarely express grief and sadness in the way Steven does. He's very empathetic and has a seemingly passive weapon he has the ability to heal and such, things you would usually see a girl having. I feel like that aspect of it makes it healthy to boys growing up because it normalizes emotions and experience of them. I liked it's message of empathy and blah blah especially for a show which main character is a boy. However the downside of it is that because the show is about mental health stuff that they try and make everyone forgive everyone when not everyone deserve forgiveness. I think it would be better if Steven learned that not everyone deserves forgiveness, lessons like you can forgive a person but you don't have to let them back into your life. Like the other sides of forgiveness. The message you should forgive everyone no matter what is toxic and stupid. Especially when they try to redeem literal space Nazi's with that same message. However despite that I still love the show and think its great in many aspects but I believe its “forgive everyone!” message is a bad one. It would be a different story if all the characters weren't bad enough to not be able to be forgiven but that honestly isn't the case.
As far as I know Pink Diamond really was supposed to be the true villain of Steven Universe. She's pure depiction of a spoiled rich kid with unhealthy narcissism. And I think it fits perfectly. That was one of the best plot twists I've ever seen, and I used to follow the theories online
Preach. As a non⚪, queer man... I kinda hate how extremely ⚪ Steven Universe was. Which is sad, because it had so much promise in the beginning. Still though, it had it's merits. It was just flawed.
I agree that Garnet became the character to talk about fusion, but I think in later seasons they focused more in the aspect of her struggles to be a leader and also that she's wasn't 'the leader' anymore since Steven at that point was basically the one in charge, maybe it's just me not making any sense lol
the way I clicked on this video so fast- FINALLY! I always wanted to hear you talk about this show and criticize it, this show was my childhood but even I know it's not perfect and I'm glad that you talked about its flaws. There aren't many people who criticize the show without either favoring it or getting unnecessary hate.
As someone who grew up on Steven Universe, it holds a very special place in my heart. However, that doesn't mean I can't dislike certain parts of it. I agree with every single one of your points, but I still love this show. Every piece of media has its issues, and no matter how much we don't want to see flaws in our favorites, it's important to acknowledge that nothing is perfect.
I'm personally offended about the fact that the diamonds were so quickly converted (for lack of a better term but I'm also bitter) simply because my birth stone is a diamond
Honestly I think I will always be a little bitter about this show. I loved it so much, but towards the later seasons, between the messy schedule, filler episodes and butchered characters, I ended up so disappointed and kinda hopeless that the end would be good, in my opinion. When the final episodes came and all my fears manifested, it just left a stain on my memories of the show. I wish I could forget that and focus on the good times I had, because I do admire SU and the crewniverse for what they did in terms of representation, but damn I can't.
I interpreted the Cluster arm as being not the whole thing. Like they only formed the arm because they gained more control over themselves. That mightn't have even been the full size of the arm.
The reason the pacing is so weird is mostly due to CN's interference. Rebecca Sugar really did want to spend more time developing all of these plotlines, but was always forced to water it down. The one time she said "no, we're doing this" (Garnet's wedding) and wouldn't back down, her show got cancelled and she had to end it an entire season early, leading to the Change Your Mind arc. It's a valid critique, but it's worth mentioning *why* things turned out the way they did. Network interference ruins a lot of things unfortunately *coughcoughinfinitytrainshouldhaveabookfiveCOUGH*. *ALSO I won't speak on the racial stereotype thing because I'm not black but I will say the "concrete" design (the gem that can't read) was drawn by Ian Jones Quartey, a black man. Just thought that was worth pointing out.
i absolutely love steven universe. it molded me in so many ways and made me a better person. it makes me sad how many people in the fandom are so defensive and toxic.
SU was one of my favorite shows ever. It helped me find out I was gay, and actually introduced gay marriage to my homophobic parents without them even realising. But with that being said, mama there’s some problems
Have you checked out Amphibia yet? It deals with its' themes really well, implements foreshadowing within the first episode alone, takes a slower pace during the first season so the viewer can really get to know the characters, to build a connection and has a deeper lore to it than the show initially appears to be. Also, it's a frog isekai with its' first two seasons available on Disney + and the third and final season coming in October!
I kinda like how the episodes go from dark and dramatic actual plot in one to comedic daily life in the next. I think it shows that Steven is still just a kid and he has a life and things to do outside of saving people and fighting and stuff. You know? That might just be me though and I definitely don't have the highest standards lol. Love the video btw! 💖
im glad u feel that jasper not getting "redeemed" makes sense. ive seen ppl be like "wow diamonds got to become good guys but jasper couldnt??" it makes sense for her character!! shes small minded and refuses change. thats what shes like the whole time. it wouldnt make sense for her to go like "ooo wow pretty grass i love earth!" like... most of her personality is hating the earth sooo
I really liked this critique video, probably one of the more casual ones I’ve watched! The topics you talked about were nicely spread into parts. Maybe going a bit side tracked here and there, but moved on when you realized it was going on for too long. I really appreciate the fact you stayed more neutral, whereas other critics take the whole show down, get rather aggressive or stay ignorant to anyone who points something out that doesn’t suit their opinions. I did want to give some more information about the animation style being inconsistent, mostly in the mid-seasons. This was actually not the fault of the animation studio (Rough Draft Korea), but of the storyboard artists. There wasn’t a set of character models as you already mentioned, which resulted in the artists drawing the characters in their own style (as shown on 40:14). The storyboards also were roughly drawn resulting in big inconsistencies in the animation. This can be seen in a few episodes (for example Same Old World from season 3), surrounding Peridot and Lapis at the barn, where the storyboards were made so messy that their hair ended up being way too big. The only episode where the animation was consistent was in Mindful Education, which was co-storyboarded by guest Takafumi Hori. Hori delivered clean storyboards making the animation process more consistent. This sadly isn’t the same case with the other story-boarders. If there had been character models the show would’ve been a lot more consistent, but alas, we didn’t get that. It did end up giving us some very memeable frames, so we’ve been able to get something out of it! I didn’t think I’d end up typing so much, whoops. To anyone that did read all of this, thank you for showing your interest and I hope you have a great day/night!
i also watched the show back when it was coming out, and it was really nice to go through it with you now and think more deeply about some of its issues while still appreciating what it did well!! thank you so much for this thoughtful video (and your makeup as always is so cute)
also you went "steven universe isn't a comedy show like adventure time" but like, at least adventure time would bunch up the plot important eps together lmao.
I haven't seen the show. I don't really want to. But from the clips I've seen, both Jasper and Lapis were abusive. Lapis had more control when trapping the fusion, and partially could've been motivated by the fact of how dangerous she might've viewed Jasper to be despite her weaker state. Jasper gets on the ship thingy where Lapis and Steven were chilling after Lapis says she can't deal with seeing the ocean very well. Jasper admits to stalking the two, and after Lapis says the relationship was destructive, Jasper says she'll shatter Steven. Followed by Lapis launching Jasper off the boat. Both Jasper and Lapis were victims and abusers to each other. And Lapis' PTSD probably made her struggle quite a lot with impulse and emotion control. But idk. Lapis has a dope design, and I find the portrayal of her PTSD to be very interesting. As well as her being potentially coded Autistic from what I've heard. But I can't deny she did horrible things.
I didn't agree with over 70% of what you said, but I would love to see more of this. I just don't watch things that I agree with. I love hearing different opinions. Things can be good that I don't agree with. A very fun and funny video. Hopefully we will get a part two. Btw...is less than 3 just a longer way of saying 2? I'm going to say yes it it.
If you haven't yet, you should totally make a video about the She-Ra reboot!! I thought it was great, one of my fave shows now. I'm curious what you have to say!
yall let's talk abt the island episode where sadie literally trapped lars and steven so that she can have quality time with lars but ended lars being the one apologizing even though sadie was in the wrong too.
I started watching the show when it first came out and I was like 11 at the time. That show really helped me accept myself. But MANNNNNN it was so annoying when I had to wait months for a new episode. I stayed loyal until the end tho. I litterally grew up with the show and it has a special place in my heart ^^
Pearl is one of my favorite characters she started off grieving, feeling she is now nothing because rose is gone, and using fusion to feel complete leading her to hurt garnet. But she becomes happier as she cares for steven, telling him all she knew about his mother (at least all she physically could), her becoming her own gem, standing up to peridot when she's undermined just for being a pearl, becoming confident as she is while realizing how rose wasn't as good as a person as she once thought! I do hope her and bismuth gets married!
i’m so happy to have found your channel! i was actually on a binge on steven universe criticism, as i was a huge fan but realised how lousy the writing was. the other criticisms for this show felt like it wasn’t even constructive anymore and was JUST to trigger people who liked the show. this video is like a breath of fresh air, just like your channel! your channel has such a comforting aura
I personally never actually got into this show but I really enjoyed this video, your makeup looks amazing 🥰 I’m also guilty of reading all the comments during this video :,)
How did you read the thumbnail, because I am debating with Joey more than the show now
And y’all already disliking before the video even ended THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
Edit: ok I completely didn’t realize my wording, when I said “non-binary people” in terms of garnet’s relationship I MEANT I saw people negating ruby and sapphire as lesbian, aka “they’re non-binary so it can’t be lesbian.” Non-binary lesbians exist and I did not want to deny their existence, so my apologies for poor word choice, I just didn’t like people saying they can’t be lesbian
And I meant peridot was aromantic, not asexual since asexual people can still have romantic attraction
I think the thumbnail looks good, makes sense and it’s captivating.
i read it correctly but now that youve pointed it out i can see why joey read it wrong lmao
I like the thumbnail.
I read it as “Steven Is Not Universe Perfect”
I thought it was meant to be read like that like a sneaky move like "OOP-. Now let's discuss........🤫"
Remember, kids: no show is perfect, but that doesn't mean you can't love it
Except for Adventure Time 🙂
wise words
No kid is perfect doesn't mean you can't show it
Y did I do that
My opinion of the show exactly. But if im gonna be honest the last few episodes being horrendously rushed has soured me a bit.
Personally, I think that children's media should be held to higher standards than adult media, because of the demographic it's being shown to. Children are incredibly impressionable and we need to be interrogate what we're showing them. Because, realistically, the tv and RUclips are all most kids have.
Oooh interesting point, never thought about it like that but you’re right they’re the most impressionable and maybe shows need to be more aware of what they’re showing
depends what you mean to a higher standard. Do you mean a higher moral standard? Sure! But a higher standard for quality of writing and storytelling? Well, that's not realistic since it's much much MUCH harder to write a compelling and evocative storyline when you have to dumb things down and spill them out for your audience (and with kids shows you have yo do that cause they're kids, they might not get subtext and complex storylines)
@@FredericChen This is something I think a lot about, because I want to be a school teacher for elementary school aged kiddios. What messages are we putting out into the world for children to absorb?! You can't tell your kid one thing, but then sit them in front of a tv that tells them something different. Obviously, no tv show is going to reflect every value every parent wants to instill in their kids (which is why we need to be limiting the amount of tv children are watching*), but ya know...
Perhaps we shouldn't be showing children tv shows where characters that are Black (coded) are the most aggressive on screen. Someone else brought this up in the comments, but a lot of Black people were soured by Sugalite being... Like That^TM.
(Thank you for mentioning that, btw. I find many people, when discussing this SU, try to skirt around the racial implications, and it's like... No, baby.)
Also, it's kinda weird how much of exposition comes from Garnet. It's giving magical n*g*o vibes. That ain't cute, either.
*I am perfectly aware of the fact that this is not feasible, because most parents work and don't have adequate resources for child care. This comment was made as a best case scenario, of sorts.
@@botanicalitus4194 I think they're talking about how kids shows should be held to a higher moral standard because of how impressionable kids are, especially younger kids.
This is my exact thought process omg
steven universe was such an important point in gay cartoon history, its one of the main reasons why we have gay kids shows today and i think thats amazing
problem here is that no other show has a way to express what gays really want, all of them have put gays the label of Mitch and/or Cam
@@snakecake-mw7vw dang modern family really had that impact on gays huh...
Yes
@@softhusky , modern family started a calamity of how homosexuals are represented by media, Steven Universe put a stop to that whit Garnet, but alas, that didn't last.
most of the episodes is hinting that gay is okay but cuz of hoe conservative ppl are they used crystal gems to indicate things that are taboo and they covered up all the evidence so if ppl wanna ban the show they won't have proof to ban it u need to be smart when u watch steven universe because there is many hidden messages
avatar:the last airbender was a kids show and had genocide and yet Aang didn't hug fire lord Ozai at the end
EXACTLY
True, but he was literally given a solution that would defeat him but didn’t go against his personal morality. A little too convenient for my liking. Also I do agree with Frederic.
Also when I first watched Avatar when it was first aired in 2005 I hadn't grasped how serious everything was since I was still so young and it was mostly comedic most of the time. It wasn't until I literally watched it again last year did I realize that Avatar & Korra had so much dark realities (discrimination, familial trauma, genocide, corruption, murder, war, etc).
Yeah I’m getting pretty sick of the “killing is always bad no exemptions” thing in media because the plot hole of protagonists not really doing anything to stop the villains from continuing to hurt people is grating
At least aang took away ozai’s powers so that kind of neutralizes him and also his whole pacifist Buddhist thing is really important to him and that’s a big part of his character
But yeah that needs to fucking stop
@@kailuna8587 as I remembered it, the solution of "taking" Fore Lord Ozai's fire bending power is not given to him but Aang searched for it.
I feel like Avatar The Last Airbender dealt with the topics of genocide and war much better with the main character coming to terms with the fact that his entire culture was destroyed.
This was literally my first thought, they handeled a lot of situations well. That's why ATLA is one of my favourite shows
they also did better with pacing of the episodes with the shadow of the ongoing war and the main villain not leaving the scene while making time for light, funny episodes
@@TTTups and the fillers didn’t drag on they were fun to watch ahah I feel like SU fillers are a bit unbearable
@@koi3159 ST’s fillers are kind of… ehh?? they don’t follow plot, and most of the fillers aren’t even canon.. i haven’t watched it in a while, so i can’t remember all the fillers, but there was only 5 episodes in each season that had canonic plot, except for.. i think the last season. i hated the fillers for ST and skipped almost all of them, except for maybe 1, the cat ice cream sandwich one.
ATLA’s fillers are canon. they aren’t actually fillers but they are fillers at the same time. the island episode with zuko, azula, ty lee, and mai is a filler but it digs down into canonic backstories of the main side characters, characters relevant to the plot, characters we need to know about. the way ATLA deals with fillers is honestly an art. sometimes the “fillers” are heavy and deep, sometimes they’re light-hearted, but they always find some way to connect it to the plot.
another example: the episode where katara and sokka got sick. although the whole “sucking the frozen bodies of hibernating frogs” thing was filler-ish, the use of the episode was supposed to drag on suspense, when zuko, iroh, and june tried to track down the avatar in the same episode. even if that was a filler episode, it still had plot relevance.
why did i type all this out
cool makeup guy: its a kids show that tries to deal with genocide and mental health
atla: hold my quenchy cactus juice
Rose/pink was hated because her characther development was showned backwards. She was the better one of the diamond and they were forgivened.
This. Yep f who ever dumped all the n*zi BS in it, only to try to make them "redeemable" an failed miserably, at having even a miniscule, MINISCULE chance of that.
*plausibly
I think it would have been really cool and more effective if somewhere toward the end of the series we saw pink's life story but this time in chronological order so we realize that she GREW out of her toxicity and became the nice caring considerate person she is, rather than have it the other way where we learn about her toxicity later on so that's the last thing we think of her
Pink wasn't exactly redeemed though, at least not to me. She was steven's mom and she loved him and she did what she thought best, but that doesn't exclude her from the wrong she made and the friends she hurt, including steven. She was young and naive and they showed us that part of her, not as a redeeming point but as a statement, so that steven could then learn to accept that pain and move forward unlike pink, he ended what she started, but that doesn't redeem her, nor in my opinion make her better (that being said I do think she was more caring and open minded than the other diamonds so yeah she was morally better than the others) but nobody is perfect, the diamonds made the effort to change after all, even if change is hard, which is what matters. Except it doesn't matter all that much cause its just a show, its not perfect, but its good enough. :3
@@valerialamav What bothers me about pinks character is that they kept adding terrible stuff to it without ever having her do anything about it. I agree that they just had steven fix all of her mistakes, and that makes it harder to think that she ever did become more caring. She had all the time in the world to fix things but she chose to have a kid before getting her life together.
What I mean is that having steven fix all those problems makes me wonder why she never tried to. They didn't think about what it said about her that steven had to free bismuth after pink just left her in a bubble and lied about it. Or what happend to spinel and volleball. and even the human zoo. It makes me feel like she just had steven so she could run from her responsibilities. Which is sad because I liked rose before that.
I feel like a lot of people instantly exclude anything lgbt related from potential criticism if it isn't obviously bad or seemingly bad on face level ( Q force on example comes off as horrible here based on trailers )
Q force was pretty decent not amazing and the stereotypes were cringey at times but I think that was the whole point of the show, it mocks stereotypes because they're stupid which makes it funny. And steven universe is amazing ignoring the fact that it represents LGBTQ it is easily one of my fav shows
I also feel a lot of people hold lgbt shows or things with minorities to a higher standard then then the ones that don’t have them.
Edit: I also forgot to mention when the writers of that medium are part of a minority group as well, it gets criticized even more.
@@Andyatl2002 they was trying to say people dont judge lgbt shows enough
@@jaydenking7408, I think Steven Universe was very criticized and that some of that criticism wasn’t in good faith.
@@Andyatl2002 yeah I think the same it's an amazing show and just because it "represents lgbtq" some people hated because it wasnt exactly how they wanted dit to be
i could not agree more with the "hugs and kisses" resolution point, every arc seemed to end so quickly and it felt almost... disappointing?
And by spinel saying "you cant slove everything by singing!" i think the producers are already aware of it :'(
@@user-fg9st9bj5b And then they solved it with a song.
I don't understand why the solution was for her to be dependent on someone else instead of learning to live without someone elses validation. That's the only part of the movie that really bothered me.
Only Jasper survived when the hugs/kisses nation attacked
from apparent theory channels, friends and research: to my knowledge, the hugs and kisses ending was due to CN rushing their ending. the reason in mixed between it being "too gay" to just it being too long
take what i say w/ a grain of salt:)
@@asmooo4557 Not just the series finale. We're talking about how all of the issues in the show are solved with hugs and kisses. Like the fight with the diamonds.
I think it was just the series finale that had to be rushed out. But even then they probably coulda gotten rid of some of the less important episodes of the last season and used the extra time to do something else besides a hug.
There were so many obstacles for this show. Terrible managing, marketing, and budgeting on behalf of Cartoon Network. The reluctance to show queer identities and cowering to homophobic countries (Ruby is given a mustache in some international releases). The story Rebecca wanted to tell got lost in translation a bit, but I love the show for what it is, not for what I wanted it to be. ❤ I still think its wonderful and I hope SU gets released on a better platform to reach a higher potential. I always thought a spinoff "Lars of the Stars" would scratch that ich I had to learn more about the Gempire and the origin of the Diamonds and still be homogenized enough to feature "Bad guy of the week" storytelling for re-runs. Maybe one day :) But yes, some "fans" of SU really are scary and abhorrent, unfortunately.
Apparently the Ruby was a joke edit. But the gender change outside of the USA was still true
yeah. I think SU was severely mishandled and it's a shame it had to have a rushed ending.
there's definitely a lot of valid critiques given how many things the show tried to tackle.
it's a shame but I'm glad it existed
I want the Lars spinoff to happen so much now. Like Guardians of The Galaxy but with gems, that's cool 😖
@@spaghetto9836 Maybe Rebecca had something cooking up! Adventure Time got resurected on HBO Max, maybe SU will have a similar experience!
Lars of the Stars seems to be a reference to Space Pirate Captain Harlock along with a few other shows of similar genre. so maybe check that out if you want to watch something like it.
Nothing is perfect, no show is. But I love it,it's better than most "adult" shows.
Literally only 20% of “adult” shows are good
@@-Matchuchu- I like kids shows tbh, they're good in a different way. "adult" shows are sometimes so morbid and force the underlying messages in a unattractive way. It normally puts me off
@@idontknowanymore7689 exactly
@@idontknowanymore7689 for me its seggs,, like they just put that in and its so gross and stupid.
@@loverboy6149 I mean that's not a problem, we'll if you're mature enough. It's just there but I do think they overdo it sometimes. Certain shows can balance it all and some are overkill with some narratives
I remember the episode where LARS LITERALLY DIES and they just brushed it off. Steven heals him back to life and the episode continues as if a major character in the series didn’t just croak. And then!! They push Lars into the background, even though he now is part of the major lore of Steven’s healing abilities and what Lars being pink like the lion means!!
Lars also being understandably mad when Sadie kept him on that island against his will also got swept under the rug
honestly that was kinda scary and shocking. so much happened in that one episode. he literally went through a psychological transformation and then died. steven coudn't heal him before he died?????? and then boom he's a pink zombie and also a portal. it seemed like they treated his DEATH lightly.
Honestly, I didn't see much of the ending of SU besides future so I'm not sure what did or didn't happen, but:
I think it would be really cool if Lion was the first creature on Earth Pink/Rose saved. She had the choice to leave him but instead brings him back to life, and seeing him happy and healthy and bounding around, thanking her, she realizes that saving is so much better than destroying.
Also I really wish Lars had a PTSD rep as well for his death. Having multiple representations of what it can look like, especially in traumatized children, could help a lot of people in my opinion. Again I don't know if any of this happened, just going off what I do know.
I stopped watching the series somehow after that.
@@Cybo-18 Yeah that episode was so f*cked up! I would have been so upset to and SSadie was being so selfish in that episode, but none of this was referenced ever again I belive
I didnt like that Connie was built up to be Steven's knight but then Steven just ends up mostly fixing stuff himself... i wanted her to have more of a role in fighting wih him
No because what did she do in change your mind
Exactly, Connie had training for basically no reason. She does nothing!
"You can do it for her"
yeah she became useless
@@awts..7954 the whole song, Rose = Steven Pearl= Connie, the whole song is making Connie into Pearl, making Connie maybe facing similar traumatic and emotional stuff that Pearl went through, when Steven is gone Connie would face a HARD problem just like what pearl went through.
I still remember when toxic fans nearly drove a artist to suicide, which is big yikes.
I would have loved to see Blue Diamond's sentimentality towards Steven drives a wedge between her and Yellow and White, causing a schism in the Diamond authority and dividing Homeworld as a result.
Honestly it could've been amazing to see a diamond rebell with her court and the crystal gems and maybe even have yellow join later on and they could've defeated white together with actual war tacticks instead of love. Could've had a lot of lore and backstory while they try to convince steven to if not kill but at least inprison her on a distant planer in anothet galaxy.
Or maybe some sort of Lady Macbeth situation with blue diamond's grief and guilt
@@plainsalt GIRL😭
It’s kinda odd that opal is so chill, when pearl and amethyst clash the most, and amethyst and garnet mostly don’t clash, at least not as much
well fusions have their own mind anyway. but its still so weird
@@seomews I know, but the entire point of fusions is they have a mixture of the personalities of the people who fused and there relationship
I think it’s sort of supposed to be like they cancel each other out, and when they fuse, they have to set aside their differences (and they have a lot) and once they can get past that and fuse, they’re chill.
@@izzy_pappas750 that could be it, but it doesn’t make sense how Amethyst and Garnet clash. Pearl says that there personality’s clash when we first see them form. If anything there personalities could go well together I’d think. Not that the character they fuse into isn’t cool, it’s just off
@@livvyyyyyyyyyyy That’s just it: they don’t clash. They amplify each others’ worst tendencies. Sugilite is temperamental like Ruby and Amethyst with the cold ire of Sapphire. She has Garnet’s bluntness mixed with Amethyst’s lack of a filter and brashness. Garnet as a fusion exudes a lot of self control because Ruby and Sapphire work so well together. Adding Amethyst skews the balance, especially since her personality is so dominant, making Sugilite what she is. It’s sad she’s still black coded and codifies some not so good stereotypes about aggressive black women, though.
lapis had SOO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR GOOD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
I loved her & paridot they had her character develop & do good they could've progressed lapis I agree!!
I feel this way about Connie, everything Connie’s mom was afraid of is what Connie became. Her personality was reduced to Swords and studying. In steven universe future, and in the movie, she only exist to help steven.
Didn't she have character development tho?
@@Marixchatt man like i could just be looking at it wrong, but Connie's character started getting on my nerves when they started trying to make her be included in every. Single. Thing. (Specially fights)
Like i feel that Connie should be included in fights but i hated that as soon as she gets better with the sword she started acting like every mission she needs to be front and center.
Like girl you are a human and i know you gained confidence and a safe space with the gems and Steven but i just didn't like how she tried to always make Steven feel bad if he didn't want to risk taking her because she not part gem and could really die-
Honestly i look at things differently and take em different ways but that's just me take on Connie's character 😭 (sorry for the long rant i just really needed to say that)
@@ceeyuh5002 yes, but most of it was waisted and they reduced her to Steven’s love interest who happens to only show up when they need her for sword related reasons.
idk if he’s said this yet but something else me and other black people who have watched the show have realized, there’s quite a bit of stereotyping in the show. sugalite (who’s black coded and voiced by nicki minaj) is one of the most aggressive and irrational characters. i loved the show when i was younger, but as i mature im realizing a lot of stuff that’s not ok with it :/
what does black coding mean? ive asked and no one has explained it to me
@@mei3786 it’s like even though the character is not black, they are supposedly in the black community (this definition is not 100% correct, i recommend you check google)
@@mei3786it usually means the character isn’t a human, so they don’t belong to a certain race, but the writers and artists include certain features that make them appear black. garnet had fuller lips, magenta skin, afro textured hair, and was voiced by a black woman. so while being a gem and not having human race, she appears black to the audience.
@@mei3786 Coding, in this context, refers to the act of giving human characteristics to non-human (fictional) characters.
In Steve Universe, the gems are not human; they're aliens. They don't have a race or a gender, because those are purely human constructs (this is why you will see some people refer to the gems as non-binary characters). However, based upon the way they're drawn, the characteristics/attributes given to them by the writers, and sometimes even the people who voice them, we are to understand that certain gems are to be thought of as certain races.
And yes, this is on purpose.
Characters like Garnet and Sugalite (to name a few) are coded as Black. They don't *look* like Black people (because they aren't human), but they are drawn with features that are associated with Blackness and are also voiced by Black women (Garnet is voiced by Estelle and Sugalite is voiced by Nicki Minaj).
@@felicityb93 ah ok :) thank you for explaining it to me
ive seen some people say that characters "act black" when explaining it? (not anyone here just whenever i have tried to get people to explain it to me) is that not racist? no one explained it to me and it kind of made me feel weird about the term
the "it's a kid's show!" argument when it comes to solving problems (especially serious ones like gen0cide) with "hugs, kisses and friendship" is so bad to me. kids also need to know that those things can't fix everything. also kids shows can be a little more explicit with it. look at avatar the last airbender and the first three seasons of winx club!
Steven Universe is the only childrens show I've ever seen this happen in. Typically villains either get defeated, sent to jail, or die. In Disney movies they typically die.
Howsabout Amphibia and Centaurworld?
@@icecreamhero2375 Yeah it was so weird, like worse was seeing lots of people saying "but is a kid show they can't kill the villain", because like you said even Disney kills their villains and many times in gruesome ways
Not the people actually disliking it before watching it when that's his FIRST argument
every show has flaws, some of them have more, but as long as it isn't problematic overall, it's alright to love it!
I forgot to talk about that, they need pimples, a voice crack and hair growing not just on their head
@@ShutYourDream to think Rebecca supports sexualizing teens even though there was an entire episode about how stebonnie being sexualized by Kevin was not okay is kinda weird.
One of the things sugar wanted to do with stebonnie was to show that when you become a teenager people see you differently. And unfortunately that means getting sexualized in some situations.
@@ShutYourDream correct me if i wrong, but isn't stevonnies age meant to be Steven's age + Connie's age? In that case I don't think the design is that bad. They look like a young adult which would be their canonical age.
And I don't remember many scenes of them being sexualized? Are there any specific or is it just the overall design? I remember her acting in a pretty innocent and awkward way.
I think her personality sort of shows a young relationship well. She's awkward, anxious, etc. Isn't that what teen love I like?
@@ShutYourDream bruh just bc stevonnie is drawn w chest and tighs it doesn't mean she's sexualized or something she looks finee
@@ShutYourDream I kind of thought that with Garnet and Amethyst fused together, the fusion might be more aggressive because of their personalities. Garnet is strongest of the group, fights with her fists, and is passionate, and Amethyst is kind of like a wild child who’s more chill and relaxed but can get out of control sometimes. Their fusion is just a combination of passion and a bit of wildness (I don’t know of a better word, sorry). Pearl holds herself with a lot of grace and dignity and is intent on following rules and being super precise, so it just seems that the gems she fuses with will have a little bit of that. I don’t think that the show meant that two black coded gems fusing is less proper than a black coded gem and a white coded gem, and that it’s more based on the gems personalities. While the characters might unintentionally fall into some stereotypes, they’re fleshed out and each have some backstory and development. It is a flawed show, but it still tried to dive into deep topics whether it’s handled well or not.
EDIT: I commented a little bit early before I got to the part about Sugilite. I do see what you’re saying, and I won’t deny that there is some racist undertones. Might not be intentional, but definitely unfortunate that it’s there. Hope I didn’t come off wrong.
In my opinion I don’t even think rose was supposed to turn out into the character that she ended up as. I feel like the writers wrote themselves into a corner and then just used roses character as a scape goat since we knew barely anything about her and the writers were too lazy to come up with good and logical reasons for her actions.
Agreed... I was so pissed that we learned nothing from her character at all they explianed nothing... Did u watch amazing worlf of gumball I love that show & it totally ended on a big cliffhanger & now they say the show is not coming back ( forgot why I read the reason why on Google though ) anyways I can't believe it was even cancelled with the ratings being so high?#!
Nah it was planned from the beginning. There's charts and time lines and everything lol (in the art books, particularly in End of an Era, it shows how they wrote it all out! Just cuz u don't like something doesn't mean it wasn't planned :) lol) I thought it explained everything but cool if u didn't like it, everyone has different tastes.
It definitely was planned, but the execution was horrible since they showed her entire development backwards and never showed how much she improved at the end and made her look like the biggest villain of the entire show.
@@jagp135 I don't think that's horrible execution, I think it's turning audience expectations on their heads and forcing us to interpret a character in a nonlinear fashion :) ! All the characters feelings abt her are actually... very personal to them, just cuz they are upset at her doesn't mean she's "shown as the biggest villain" on an objective scale imo. Let's agree to disagree on the quality of the execution lol I just think it was unique and different to show her backwards that way esp for a kids show but to each their own, and hey, someone has to appreciate it, right?
@@lucilleballs2291 I feel it wasn’t planned. Since it took too long for the cracks to be seen and the plot to move along. Even more to pearl who was supposed to be with rose when her tantrums happened. No story is fully planned at the start. Everything changes in development just like how games may had made a main character a guy but changed to a girl. They might say they wanted a girl but in reality they just say so to sound smart
You can’t get anymore iconic. You are literally gorgeous!
I can second that!
Thirded!
Amen to that!
They are the moment
Exactly!!
Frederic: Steven Universe is not perfect.
My dumb ass: Steven is not universe perfect.
Honestly I read that at first
i was gonna comment that but first spend 10 minutes searching if someone already did XD
I think the issue with a lot of shows like Steven Universe is that they were created as streaming services became more popular. Filler episodes are good for cable TV because you can just scroll through channels and dip in and dip out without having to know what the entire plot is about - it's exactly why sitcoms were so popular. But because a lot of people watch it on streaming services now, it's such a glaring issue with Steven Universe
I feel like the cluster was actually supposed to be a whole body of broken gems and only it's arm was shown but the show made it feel like the cluster was just a hand.
You could actually probably find the concept art for what the cluster was supposed to be!
You can find official concept art online of what the cluster would look like fully emerged. (It’s kinda weird)
The cluster was low key Dark Gaia from the Sonic series.
"gay space rocks expressing their love"
Along with Peridots "what with all the crying, singing, crying while singing" probably the most apt description of the show
Peridot's line that explains the entire show:
And Steven was all like "my feelings"
20:54 I saw a video try to explain Spinel’s fighting ability and what they came up with is the fact that she’s a gem that’s designed to be a playmate so the whole “fight” is a game to her, she’s playing with them. This is mostly based on her line at the end where she goes “I don’t wanna play anymore” and then THAT’S when she gets bad at fighting cause she’s TRYING to fight which isn’t what she was designed to do
Kinda goes against everything that Pearl is supposed to stand for in the show but they’ve also kinda established with Bismuth that gems who were made for a specific task and had the skills to do so just pivoted to something else but within like the same skill set.
Idk where I was going with this I just started with the Spinel explanation and my brain ran with it
Like the episode where Steven opened up a class or something where all gems 💎 from all over could come there & change for the good & he gave them tasks to do at a amusement park doing things they don't normally do & all hell broke loose then he puts them where their skills shine & all was good!!
@@armcollector6660 yes! Amethyst helped them more than Steven did 💀 It was supposed to add to his downward spiral but I think it was rushed. Like it was explained as “I’m always helping people or about to die so now that I’m not doing either I’m falling apart”
I also have issue with buff Steven like I doubt even just teenage angst would spark that whole transformation I don’t understand why he went full diamond other than for plot
@@disgr_ace yes amethyst is amazing lol she is my favorite... I also didn't like how they didn't let lapis character develp like paridot ( I started to really love her she is hilarious ) they just really kept her the same... But them not giving more info on rose 🌹 I was pissed bout that one lol I mean they didn't get into anymore bout her there was so much more We could've learned imo... Did u watch amazing world of gumball I loved that show? But once again they ended on a big cliffhanger & then cancel the show ( I read somewhere why bit can't remember ) also the ratings were really good so I can't understand why really they chose to do that!! Hope u having a wonderful weekend!!
@@armcollector6660 I don’t remember why Gumball got cancelled. I wish there was more development for SU characters too like more time for stevens trauma (other than the wild diamond stuff) and omg Lapis and the diamonds it was too much that got too little
I also hope you’re having a good weekend!
@@armcollector6660
Dude, that was the show Magical Mystery Cure.
Am I right???
Peridot was my favorite character, especially after the cluster arc. I really related to her since she was autistic coded and I am too.
On my first viewing Lapis was my favorite, but since then I’ve had some *stuff* happen and yeah, I absolutely see her as an abuser. She’s been hurt, and lashing out is something hurt people do, but she can’t be my favorite anymore. She doesn’t take responsibility for her actions, she just makes jasper feel inadequate and then throws her away. Don’t get me wrong, jasper is certainly a bad guy, but that doesn’t mean she should be treated like garbage.
There's so much of this I agree with! I started getting into Steven Universe during the In Too Deep bomb. So because Lapis was so prevalent at this time (on like Instagram and whatever), I think I started gravitating towards her. I'm guessing a reason was because I thought she was so badass to my younger self.
Once I started getting the full picture of the show, Peridot was so likeable and became my favorite character. I think at some point I saw something online that made me realize she's done some very deplorable actions.
Also, I just wanna say that I really like your profile pic!
As a fan of this show, I'm really glad that we're openly talking about the flaws the show has despite the toxic fans that may feel offended. It's so interesting to see others perspective in a show I love so much and learning about flaws they might see in it! I really wanted to thank Frederic for spreading his opinions on the show regardless of the toxic minority that may reply with nasty comments. It's always so refreshing to hear his honesty regardless of what others may say :) Thanks for always inspiring others to do the same!
I feel like fans should be more critical of the stuff they like so that they themselves can improve upon it.
@@timtam3730 exactly! :)
Hot take, just because it has lgbtq representation, whether its good or not, doesnt mean the show is exempt from criticism
honestly, I've only recently discovered of how many people get aggressive whenever anyone talks about the show in a negative light, maybe cuz I wasn't really ever talking to other people about it and didn't interact that much with the fandom online. Steven Universe is extremely special to me because it's one of my few comfort shows but despite that I knew that it wasn't perfect. Remember y'all, things you like aren't immune to critism !!
9:08 this is exactly how I felt about the show when I was really into it, that was when I was younger tho, I agree now with the things you said
Agree... I may be a little old to love amazing world of gumball but I love that show & ended with a complete cliffhanger I was so pissed I really loved that show!!
Ppl got pissed SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of the deluge of nitpicking, criticism, and hatred from something called the "SU Critical Community," which lasted for years. Of course they're gonna get defensive! Steven Universe had a hatedom so big and so prolific that fans felt cornered because the hate was disproportionate and hypocritical when compared with other shows. I don't blame u fir not knowing about the shitstorm, but please understand it's a huge reason for the defensiveness against criticism within the community. We've seen and heard every possible criticism of the show, it gets tiring sometimes! Like we get it lol.
@@lucilleballs2291 oh i see, I didn't know about that. thank you for letting me know !
@@anrith8443 thanks for listening to my information! :) I appreciate that
@@lucilleballs2291 It wasnt disproportionate at all, show doesnt need defenders it should be able to defend itself. This show had a LOOOT of problems no not nitpicks but huge problems like the entire characters being ruined.
I love Steven Universe, but I know it's not perfect. Saying it's perfect would mostly show that you have either not watched most episode or haven't gotten to SU future yet. Some of the main themes in this show is friendship, history and progress of the gems, and most importantly revelation of flaws.
They could've done or shown certain themes better but honestly it's a pretty good show none the less. To think any show is perfect is quite odd to me, anyone can improve in everything they make. Hopefully people can understand that just cause you like a show doesn't mean you have to defend it like a shining knight. Let others have their criticism and chill out...
Really wished they dove more into Jasper w/out cutting the series short, sad days.
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Agree... Also I wish they would've gotten into rose 🌹/pink more bc I feel like we still don't know much but I guess since we learned she was a toxic gem 💎 I feel like that's where they wanted to leave off but I still wanted more info on that
@@armcollector6660 Yeah, honestly if the show wasn't rushed I feel like they def would've gone more in def into everyone. These stations rush certain shows which always ruin it for the fans, they might have comics though.
@@Onikiwi296 hope u having a wonderful weekend!!
@@armcollector6660 Thank you and I did
“Steven Universe is trash” vs “Steven Universe isn’t perfect” are completely dif opinions and honestly I agree with you it isn’t a perfect show… but no show is and that is okay :)
If every pork chop were perfect...
@@NoxietyPrime Then we wouldn't have hot dogs
I think this show is a perfect "what you should never do" with the creation of a seires, it's just my opinion (don't want to attack others that like it), but i consider it the worst series of cartoon network, and, in some way, you can learn from it as much as from the best ones.
I think lots of people are protective of it as well as the fact that it's got lgbt rep is also the mental health conversations in it.
I know that when I first started watching I was going through a very rough patch and episodes like mindful education and Pearl's arc really resonated with me.
I had a massive fall out with a friend and lost all my friends and it was something I was still (and still kinda am processing) during SU run and during the show I saw a lot of myself in both Pearl and later Spinel when you lose people who were important in your life it fucks you up
That said as you and everyone is saying you can still enjoy the show and resonate with it but you can do that while also understanding the flaws it has
Tbh I loved the filler episodes I loved learning about the random towny characters but I understand it could be seen as too much
But yeah o agree the passing was utter trash
I like the filler episodes too!
same I didn't mind them
Same but I wish they wouldn't be in between arc?
Like very important parts of the story
Also, I wished the writers would just let some of the villians BE VILLIANS. Some people are just bad and a hug and a few heart-warming moments cant change that.
the diamonds : being against fusing and etc for thousands of years going as far as to kill them
steven : but.. what if we just... don't ?
the diamonds : aight.
Steven Universe be like:
"Hi kids, my moms friends commited genocide on countless planets!! Let's hug them so we can end genocide!"
Honestly, I feel like it was rushed. I thought convincing White Diamond would be harder but it got resolved in one episode!
I cannot begin to thank you enough for not calling the diamonds "space n*zis" like some people in the fandom seem to love doing. As a Jewish person, this annoys me to no end! I mean, it's one thing to use a term like that ever, it's an entirely different story with just how WRONG it is! The diamonds (and the entire gem civilization) are clearly modeled after European colonialism/imperialism. Even the "examples" most people give of why the gems are n*zis exhibit direct parallels with European colonialism. The human zoo is a direct reference to Belgium's history. The strict caste system of gem society is very reminiscent of similare systems found throughout history in Europe. The specific form of genocide the gems partake in is far more akin to the genocide of the native american peoples than it is to the Holocaust. The building of gem colonies is well... do I even need to point that one out? At any rate, I think I've made my point. I think the part that horrifies me the most about this isn't peoples' flagrant misuse of the word "n*zi", it's how willing people are to ignore the horrors of European colonialism. At any rate, great video and thank you for talking about some of the ways this show does miss the mark a bit!
I'm glad he didn't use the term or said that Rebecca Sugar tried to "redeem n*zis". No. Stop saying she's a n*zis apologists. She's jewish, don't do that comparison
@@feeno1188 I didn't even know she was Jewish. That makes a lot of sense though. People really love comparing the actions of Jews to the n*zis or trying to suggest certain Jewish people sympathize with them. It's super common, even in progressive circles, and it's incredibly antisemitic. Like, I don't care how "valid" you think your point is, find a different way of making your point because comparing a Jew to a n*zi is always antisemitic unless they are literally showing active support for n*zism.
@@gabrielblack5805 she's technically half Jewish since only her father is but they grew up celebrating Jewish holidays and considering how Steven in the show is mixed, you can see how she drew form her personal experience
I've been meaning to rewatch the show. I was 14 when the show was out and suffered through the Steven Bombs, multiple hiatus, the fandom and their messy behavior/actions, etc.
Yes, you can like something with their flaws. I wish the fans would stop putting Steven on a higher pedestal. I like the show too, but they were things that were never explained and not having so much freaking filler episodes.
However, I still applaud the show for their LGBT+ rep and being incredible for having a complex plot. Just wish things were more neatly done and not rush to fit in an 11 min or 22 min episode.
Thanks for the video, Frederic! I would love to see your thoughts on Steven Universe Future.
FInaly a good way to go about it, people should have standards and putting show like that on a pedestal lowers the standards and hurts the entie community.
For me Steven Universe was a show that had really great moments, but as a whole kinda fell short for me. Overall though, I liked it! I give it a 7/10. (Oh and if anyone wants another gem related show I highly recommend Land of the Lustrous! ^^)
(The only issue with Land of the Lustrous though is that it pulled a Steven bomb and it’s been on hiatus for I think 262 days now or something like that. It’s been serializing since 2012 and the chapters were made monthly, but I still think it’s worth checking it out if your interested)
I'm fairly certain the reason Garnet's fusions lean so heavily in the direction of whoever she's mixed with is because of how she's made. She's made from two archetypes. An elegant and cold princess and a hot headed butch. So when she mixes with someone, whoever they are will amplify one of those two personalities. You aren't mixing with Garnet, the level headed leader, you're mixing with ruby and sapphire.
So if you mix Ruby with Amethyst, you get a hot headed party girl
and if you mix sapphire and pearl, you get a "controlled" and "elegant" person.
It does make sense, it just has unfortunate implications because the purely elegant person whose most visible is Pearl, who is pale skinned, but there's also Sapphire who is not visible but involved, and she is also depicted with skin darker than her hair with full lips, which codes her as dark skinned as much as Amethyst is coded.
Besides, I doubt this did any harm to any child's perception of people with skin as dark as mine, it would be hard to read Sardonyx as anything other than black herself, I think she literally has dark brown skin and a non-white voice actor. To me, all I see is disaster lesbian vs refined lesbian.
The biggest reason there are so many filler episodes is that Rebecca really wanted to show an equal part of steven’s human side and gem side. But.... these episodes get very boring, yes
As much as I loved the concept of anthropomorphic gemstone aliens and queer themes, I sadly think this show was really flawed and tried to tackle too many serious topics at once. You know something is not okay with your story, when a troubled teenage boy gets treated as a villain for most of the show and then killed for "redemption"; while a genocidal space dictator gets forgiven and doesn't face any repercussions just because she blushed.
Yay factual child posted a new video, and he's talking about STEVEN UNIVERSE YAS!!
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Factual Child 😭
The Real problem for me was at the end were they tackle the problem of "what would you do if you mother was hitler?" also the message of "just talk until things work out" loses its impact when you dont have an invencible shield like steven
Yes!!!!! This is what I’m saying!!! (context for where I’m knowledgeable: I want to be a storyboarder for animation and I am currently in art school). There is a certain amount of leeway for animation but this a professionally animated show, not some animated short from a person who is just starting out so there needs to be consistent character models. Also for a plot driven by three warriors and a war: there needs to be fight scenes that feel well-choreographed. I watched Steven Universe over the summer just to see what it was about (also for Spinel) and there is a lot of basic filler, almost from the very beginning.
For me, with the characters I liked them but I liked the idea of them. They each had their own personalities that were fun but they felt shallowly developed. Rebecca Sugar and the other writers took a very very VERY soft approach to conflict. Like, Amethyst and Greg in the first half of season one. Their relationship is kind of chilling to watch. Amethyst almost refusing to let Greg grieve and dealing with her own grief by adding more trauma with her shape shifting was not good. Which is fine for a kid’s show if only it wasn’t only about Steven in the end. It’s been a while since I watched it but sometimes that doesn’t matter when the long-lasting impression I got from the episodes was that things can only happen for Steven and around Steven.
this is a jumble of thoughts so if you understand what I’m saying that’s cool and if you don’t then I get that too.
I don’t like how just because Steven is the titular character, everything single thing has to revolve around him. Cause are you telling me that these three gems (which I would say are hmm at least a several thousands of years old) and Greg, an adult man who runs a business and has had plenty of life experience, have almost no autonomy of their own without Steven being there? Steven is like twelve in this show,, that is terrifying thought which I don’t think comes up enough from any of the adults in the show.
I think Kill La Kill pulled off the idea of space fascists much better in just 24 EPISODES (Also the main character of that show is a lesbian).
Because my family is too broke to send me to art school I decided to teach myself animation. Right now I'm working on my own show called Terraria Tales. The story boarding was done at the back of my maths exercise book, the backgrounds were done on MS Paint and all the animation was done uing Flipaclip (all free btw).
@@timtam3730 OOH RAD!!!! Yes!!! That goes with another point!! How did they not even deal with the repercussions of the giant space war and genocide well in any of the many many many episodes??? We could think about Avatar: The Last Airbender which had three seasons with like 20 episodes each and dealt with the genocide of the air nomads in I think episode two or three. Which there are still problems with the show,, at least the audience saw that they weren’t going to ignore or gloss over the stuff that has happened as a result of the war.
In Steven Universe, the corrupted gems were like an afterthought. Like “sure yeah that did happen but now they’re big scary monsters so while they were our friends that we fought with for hundreds of years, we aren’t going to attempt to help them until Steven says so”
(Also that’s so cool about your show!! What’s it about?)
I do have to agree that Steven Universe does have a lot of filler episodes in the beginning seasons, but as it starts to develop each episode has some bit of lore or information about the gems or the world of Steven Universe. Like in the frybo episode, this episode kinda explains gem magic/technology (whichever you think it is) with the crystal shards possessing the suit which somewhat explains the gem’s magic ( but it’s kinda weird because no other crystal shards in the show was ever shown to have this power). But this episode does show that in this episode it explains a little more about gems as aliens.
Edit: Why does Frederic explanations for Lapis being abusive kinda sounds like Shane Dawson's reasoing for doing black face, being a pedophile, and etc 😐
I think cartoon network is to blame for that the higher ups wanted something of line like TTG so they needed to make episodes that still appealed to the younger audience hence why there’s a lot of filler episodes that don’t really move the main story forward
I’m really glad you brought up the differences in animation. It was really annoying for me even as a 13 year old. I hated when they changed lapis’s color to almost a neon blue rather than the navy and soft periwinkle she was when we first saw her.
I see and understand your criticism, and it has changed my perspective on the show. I was very blind to pacing and the racial issues in the show, but after hearing this, I can see why people are displeased with the show. I still love it, and I thank you for your valid criticism.
I never understood how fusions work. Not as in “I don’t get how two gem make one gem.” I don’t understand anything about how it combines the personality. (And I say this as someone who would put SU in my top three favorite TV shows)
Mainly, I never understood why Garnet’s personality is almost never presents her personality in any of her fusions.
Amethyst is very clearly the main presenter in Sugilite. You could argue that its also partly Ruby, but then where’s Sapphire in all that?? Plus we didn’t even get introduced to Ruby at that point. Pearl takes over the fusion for sure in Sardonyx. You can’t tell me for even a moment that Ruby or Sapphire or Garnet is in there. That’s just Pearl but now she’s a talkshow host. Sunstone to me feels very strange. I personally don’t think it fits Steven or Garnet, let alone both of them.
Part of it feels like Garnet’s role in the fusion is “TV Personality personality.” Like, Sardonyx is presented as a talkshow host/comedian. Sunstone (to me) is presented as a weird mix of a kid show character and an infomercial person. (Sugilite is Nicki Minaj and Garnet is Estelle is also partially an argument towards it.) So why doesn’t Garnet present more when she’s just Garnet?? Outside of fusion, Garnet’s only time she reflects that kind of personality is in Steven’s dream in Chille Tid when she shows up and gets applause. (The other option is Garnets fusion-presenting trait is “This gem starts with the letter S :)”)
Especially I don’t get why Garnet’s the “quiet one” but most of the “quiet one” fusions are Pearls (with the exclusion of Sardonyx, the one where Garnet is present.) Especially when Pearl is, in my opinion, kinda talkative.
Like, Pearl and Amethyst combine and make Opal, who then has FIVE lines in the entire show (not including the movie). I feel like Opal’s personality and Sardonyx’s personalities would make much more sense if they swapped. Pearl and Amethyst making Sardonyx, the chatty comedian? Checks out. Pearl and Garnet making the silent and elegant Opal? Makes sense.
I also never got how Rainbow Quartz with Rose and Rainbow Quartz with Steven are as different as they are. Like, I get that Steven’s his own person and all that but they’re almost opposite each other in my opinion. I do think Rainbow with Steven is a better fit personality for a Pearl fusion than Rainbow with Rose though.
I kinda understand Alexandrite and Obsidian being unclear on personality due to the sheer number of members each one has, but also kinda confused on how 3-gem fusions (Sardonyx, Sugilite, Sunstone) are the most
talkative ones but then you add one more gem and they become quiet again?
I refuse to think about Steg.
The only fusions that I feel make sense for their personality and context are Malachite, Stevonnie, and Smoky Quartz. Other than that, I don’t get how any of them make sense as the combinations of their parts.
I don't understand the size or limb count of the different fusions
@@isafalcon275 Honestly, that's also a good point
@@isafalcon275 As far as that goes, the shows crew confirmed that the limb counts/designs of the fusions are based on what looks cool. On size, it depends on the stakes, so moments with high tension will produce giant fusions for the dramatic effect.
I think I heard an explanation for Opal as basically Amethyst and Pearl's personalities cancelling each other out. Sort of. Pearl is very single minded but spends too much time in her own head, while Amethyst lives in the moment but her attention drifts a lot. This amalgamates into Opal, who's intensely focused on the present moment. Opal is a being of zen.
@@indianna1549 That does kinda make sense, was that an explanation from someone who worked on the show or a fan theory?
Omg lapis was my favorite character because as a child I never noticed she was the abuser. Then she left peridot and I was *hurt* because poor peri
I feel like that is the point of Steven Universe you know the world isn’t perfect and it dealt with PTSD and the aftermath of not having stuff do after a hero saves the day in its farewell season.
I’d love to see you talk about Steven universe future. I think in the moment I was invested because the mental health issues were much more prevalent in it but also it was so rushed and kinda odd. Especially the resolution of “hugs we love you”. It was just too simple of a solution and everyone felt out of character ngl. I loved watching the show but I agree with the critiques you made
In regard to Pearl and Garnet fusing, I think the idea is that Garnet is already a balance between emotion and logic, chaos and order. Saphire is reserved, logical, cold, ordered. Ruby is outgoing, emotional, passionate, hotblooded, chaotic. SO when amethyst who is much more in line with Ruby fuses with Garnet its a 2-1 vote for chaos and hotblooded rage. When paerl who is much more like saphire fuses with Garnet is a 2-1 vote for order and elegance. But just a theory there =)
I love the show but I almost 10000 percent agree with all the criticism I've seen, it's not the most problematic thing in the world but it can be problematic still.
Just so you know, not a nitpick, the Steven Bombs and terrible hiatuses were by and large network decisions, not the choice of the cast and crew :) they kind of got screwed over in that regard!
The thing about the "If Steven isn't there, then it doesn't happen" is that the crewniverse made the show so we as viewers only knew as much as Steven. And that scene with Lars and Sadie was the crewniverse saying "Just because we didn't show you this, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen!"
The show isn't perfect and it's ok guys!! You can still love it, i do!!
Jasper deserved a proper redemption, she had so much potential as a character (also Jasper getting redeemed instead of lapis would've been interesting)
I've always loved the show for what it says for young boys. It really normalized the act of having emotions, Steven in the show cries unlike many other shows where the characters rarely express grief and sadness in the way Steven does. He's very empathetic and has a seemingly passive weapon he has the ability to heal and such, things you would usually see a girl having. I feel like that aspect of it makes it healthy to boys growing up because it normalizes emotions and experience of them. I liked it's message of empathy and blah blah especially for a show which main character is a boy.
However the downside of it is that because the show is about mental health stuff that they try and make everyone forgive everyone when not everyone deserve forgiveness. I think it would be better if Steven learned that not everyone deserves forgiveness, lessons like you can forgive a person but you don't have to let them back into your life. Like the other sides of forgiveness. The message you should forgive everyone no matter what is toxic and stupid. Especially when they try to redeem literal space Nazi's with that same message.
However despite that I still love the show and think its great in many aspects but I believe its “forgive everyone!” message is a bad one. It would be a different story if all the characters weren't bad enough to not be able to be forgiven but that honestly isn't the case.
As far as I know Pink Diamond really was supposed to be the true villain of Steven Universe. She's pure depiction of a spoiled rich kid with unhealthy narcissism. And I think it fits perfectly. That was one of the best plot twists I've ever seen, and I used to follow the theories online
Preach.
As a non⚪, queer man... I kinda hate how extremely ⚪ Steven Universe was.
Which is sad, because it had so much promise in the beginning. Still though, it had it's merits. It was just flawed.
Circle
what does the circle mean??
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I agree that Garnet became the character to talk about fusion, but I think in later seasons they focused more in the aspect of her struggles to be a leader and also that she's wasn't 'the leader' anymore since Steven at that point was basically the one in charge, maybe it's just me not making any sense lol
the way I clicked on this video so fast-
FINALLY! I always wanted to hear you talk about this show and criticize it, this show was my childhood but even I know it's not perfect and I'm glad that you talked about its flaws. There aren't many people who criticize the show without either favoring it or getting unnecessary hate.
As someone who grew up on Steven Universe, it holds a very special place in my heart. However, that doesn't mean I can't dislike certain parts of it. I agree with every single one of your points, but I still love this show. Every piece of media has its issues, and no matter how much we don't want to see flaws in our favorites, it's important to acknowledge that nothing is perfect.
I'm personally offended about the fact that the diamonds were so quickly converted (for lack of a better term but I'm also bitter) simply because my birth stone is a diamond
Honestly I think I will always be a little bitter about this show.
I loved it so much, but towards the later seasons, between the messy schedule, filler episodes and butchered characters, I ended up so disappointed and kinda hopeless that the end would be good, in my opinion. When the final episodes came and all my fears manifested, it just left a stain on my memories of the show.
I wish I could forget that and focus on the good times I had, because I do admire SU and the crewniverse for what they did in terms of representation, but damn I can't.
coming from someone who grew up and loved su, i re watched su and its like.... white diamond stoped because shes insecure??? um okay
I interpreted the Cluster arm as being not the whole thing. Like they only formed the arm because they gained more control over themselves. That mightn't have even been the full size of the arm.
The reason the pacing is so weird is mostly due to CN's interference. Rebecca Sugar really did want to spend more time developing all of these plotlines, but was always forced to water it down. The one time she said "no, we're doing this" (Garnet's wedding) and wouldn't back down, her show got cancelled and she had to end it an entire season early, leading to the Change Your Mind arc.
It's a valid critique, but it's worth mentioning *why* things turned out the way they did. Network interference ruins a lot of things unfortunately *coughcoughinfinitytrainshouldhaveabookfiveCOUGH*.
*ALSO I won't speak on the racial stereotype thing because I'm not black but I will say the "concrete" design (the gem that can't read) was drawn by Ian Jones Quartey, a black man. Just thought that was worth pointing out.
Thank you for calling out Lapis’ toxicity nobody ever listened to me about that in the fandom😔
I remember one episode where literally they talked about the world ending. then the next was about ice cream cats
i absolutely love steven universe. it molded me in so many ways and made me a better person. it makes me sad how many people in the fandom are so defensive and toxic.
SU was one of my favorite shows ever. It helped me find out I was gay, and actually introduced gay marriage to my homophobic parents without them even realising. But with that being said, mama there’s some problems
Have you checked out Amphibia yet? It deals with its' themes really well, implements foreshadowing within the first episode alone, takes a slower pace during the first season so the viewer can really get to know the characters, to build a connection and has a deeper lore to it than the show initially appears to be. Also, it's a frog isekai with its' first two seasons available on Disney + and the third and final season coming in October!
I kinda like how the episodes go from dark and dramatic actual plot in one to comedic daily life in the next. I think it shows that Steven is still just a kid and he has a life and things to do outside of saving people and fighting and stuff. You know? That might just be me though and I definitely don't have the highest standards lol. Love the video btw! 💖
im glad u feel that jasper not getting "redeemed" makes sense. ive seen ppl be like "wow diamonds got to become good guys but jasper couldnt??" it makes sense for her character!! shes small minded and refuses change. thats what shes like the whole time. it wouldnt make sense for her to go like "ooo wow pretty grass i love earth!" like... most of her personality is hating the earth sooo
I really liked this critique video, probably one of the more casual ones I’ve watched! The topics you talked about were nicely spread into parts. Maybe going a bit side tracked here and there, but moved on when you realized it was going on for too long.
I really appreciate the fact you stayed more neutral, whereas other critics take the whole show down, get rather aggressive or stay ignorant to anyone who points something out that doesn’t suit their opinions.
I did want to give some more information about the animation style being inconsistent, mostly in the mid-seasons.
This was actually not the fault of the animation studio (Rough Draft Korea), but of the storyboard artists. There wasn’t a set of character models as you already mentioned, which resulted in the artists drawing the characters in their own style (as shown on 40:14). The storyboards also were roughly drawn resulting in big inconsistencies in the animation.
This can be seen in a few episodes (for example Same Old World from season 3), surrounding Peridot and Lapis at the barn, where the storyboards were made so messy that their hair ended up being way too big.
The only episode where the animation was consistent was in Mindful Education, which was co-storyboarded by guest Takafumi Hori. Hori delivered clean storyboards making the animation process more consistent.
This sadly isn’t the same case with the other story-boarders. If there had been character models the show would’ve been a lot more consistent, but alas, we didn’t get that. It did end up giving us some very memeable frames, so we’ve been able to get something out of it!
I didn’t think I’d end up typing so much, whoops. To anyone that did read all of this, thank you for showing your interest and I hope you have a great day/night!
Oml i love the earrings. I was looking at them as I was watching for like half of the time😭
i also watched the show back when it was coming out, and it was really nice to go through it with you now and think more deeply about some of its issues while still appreciating what it did well!! thank you so much for this thoughtful video (and your makeup as always is so cute)
The hiatus were so bad!!
Rewatchs right now are more satisfying and first time watchers are so lucky.
Fedric: Imagine waiting over 200 days just to get the climax
Me:
*"flashbacks of how true colors almost ruined anphibia"*
NO PLEASE IM GETTING FLASHBACKS
@@headstone2979 THE PAIN AND SUFFERING!!!
also you went "steven universe isn't a comedy show like adventure time" but like, at least adventure time would bunch up the plot important eps together lmao.
I haven't seen the show. I don't really want to. But from the clips I've seen, both Jasper and Lapis were abusive. Lapis had more control when trapping the fusion, and partially could've been motivated by the fact of how dangerous she might've viewed Jasper to be despite her weaker state. Jasper gets on the ship thingy where Lapis and Steven were chilling after Lapis says she can't deal with seeing the ocean very well. Jasper admits to stalking the two, and after Lapis says the relationship was destructive, Jasper says she'll shatter Steven. Followed by Lapis launching Jasper off the boat.
Both Jasper and Lapis were victims and abusers to each other. And Lapis' PTSD probably made her struggle quite a lot with impulse and emotion control. But idk.
Lapis has a dope design, and I find the portrayal of her PTSD to be very interesting. As well as her being potentially coded Autistic from what I've heard. But I can't deny she did horrible things.
I didn't agree with over 70% of what you said, but I would love to see more of this. I just don't watch things that I agree with. I love hearing different opinions. Things can be good that I don't agree with. A very fun and funny video. Hopefully we will get a part two. Btw...is less than 3 just a longer way of saying 2? I'm going to say yes it it.
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Can you explain, then just saying you don’t agree if you don’t mind. I want to see if we have the same opinions
Ahh I’m so exited thanks fuzzy cow!!!
If you haven't yet, you should totally make a video about the She-Ra reboot!! I thought it was great, one of my fave shows now. I'm curious what you have to say!
yall let's talk abt the island episode where sadie literally trapped lars and steven so that she can have quality time with lars but ended lars being the one apologizing even though sadie was in the wrong too.
I started watching the show when it first came out and I was like 11 at the time. That show really helped me accept myself. But MANNNNNN it was so annoying when I had to wait months for a new episode. I stayed loyal until the end tho. I litterally grew up with the show and it has a special place in my heart ^^
Honestly, it was a great show, and I loved it, and commentary is always appreciated.
Pearl is one of my favorite characters she started off grieving, feeling she is now nothing because rose is gone, and using fusion to feel complete leading her to hurt garnet. But she becomes happier as she cares for steven, telling him all she knew about his mother (at least all she physically could), her becoming her own gem, standing up to peridot when she's undermined just for being a pearl, becoming confident as she is while realizing how rose wasn't as good as a person as she once thought! I do hope her and bismuth gets married!
I died when you said "She stole her cottage core potential"
I think Steven universe future was such an important showing of mental health and the toll of trauma and it was so needed after everything.
"she's my birthstone" okay gemini we're here for it
I AM A CANCER 💀
@@FredericChen excuse me while i bury my head in the sand-🚶♂️
@@FredericChen I’m a cancer upon this world
i’m so happy to have found your channel! i was actually on a binge on steven universe criticism, as i was a huge fan but realised how lousy the writing was. the other criticisms for this show felt like it wasn’t even constructive anymore and was JUST to trigger people who liked the show. this video is like a breath of fresh air, just like your channel! your channel has such a comforting aura
23:00 omg pearl’s secret rap career making her appearance!!
I personally never actually got into this show but I really enjoyed this video, your makeup looks amazing 🥰 I’m also guilty of reading all the comments during this video :,)