The 15 inch G7 is much more premium quality than 17 inch. The G7 17 is made of plastic, and the sad part is, DELL didn`t even bother to put bigger fan, battery, more PCIE port or even god damn subwoofer on the 17 inch. What a waste of empty spaces. For those who wants to buy G7, get the 15, that is my advice.
I have a G7 7700 2020 edition and thermal throttling is a complete pain on this unit. The only solid solution I found so far is either 1. turning off TurboBoost in BIOS completely or 2. limit the max CPU frequency to around 2.8 - 3.0 Ghz, everything above results in temps of 90°C or more and eventually throttling of the GPU (thanks shared heat pipe...). I thought about changing the thermal paste as I think the 2020 model is similar to this one, but it will void my warranty (the laptop is just a few weeks old). So I had Dells support on the phone today and they gave me the option to send it in. Thing is, they wont just change the thermal paste cos I recommend so, they will "test" all components and if they don't find any issues, they will just send it back unchanged. The whole process takes 1-2 weeks as all devices are being sent out to Poland. TL:DR - Im torn between just trying to do it myself, despite lacking a video tutorial like this one for the 2020 model , plus losing my warranty for doctoring it myself, or sending it in which might not help at all in the worst case.
You won't void the warranty of your unit by opening it up, if done carefully you won't damage anything. Voiding a warranty over basic maintenance violates your right to repair. Open the beast up and have a look.
Nice video, otherwise you forgot to disconnect the battery. I have a G5 (i7 9750H/GTX 1660Ti) and got quite a good result with TG Kyronaut on both cpu and gpu. Still I dont want to use conductonaut. Maybe later.
Yeah I took it apart several times, when I went to connect the battery in the film I was pretty upset. I was sure I had ruined it lol. It's worth it for the CPU, but it is risky and stains the copper.
i have the same laptop as you go to -150v off set for cpu and i gpu -050v off sett and over clock gpu using msi oc auto with a 500 memory over clock work awsome avr temp 70 cpu and gpu also use kryonault
Why do you use Liquid metal on the CPU, but regular thermal paste on the GPU? Is it because the CPU is a bare die, and the GPU is aluminium capped? (I couldn't tell from the video, but I guess?) Really useful video though, I am looking at how to drop my g7 15 (2019) from 80+ degrees idling in windows..... yeah seriously. IDLING. It is like sitting next to a hoover when playing games its so loud. I have found undervolting and limiting the power to 45 degrees helps a lot with the noise, but its dissapointing that on default settings, it can never reach 4.1+ ghz. Other than Liquid metal, any other things I could try?
I put liquid metal on the GPU, but I'm guessing the die or heatsink surface was uneven and it made temperatures worse. A thicker paste worked way better. I would download Throttlestop and disable the short term power boost and apply an undervolt to the CPU, something like -0.125 mv offset will do the trick and keep power consumption and heat output down a little.
Did you guys liquid metal last long? Mine got dried and solidified on the heatsink after just a few months. Undervolting did nothing on this laptop from the beginning needed to re paste to liquid metal and then some undervolting for extra. Maybe this time i will tighten the screws more why did it dry up sa fast.
Do you use Alienware Command Center or Dell Power Management? I always set mine to Cool option on Dell Power Management. Normal browsing on battery and with room temp (30C from PH lol) the laptop temp range from 41-45C. But if it is plugged, it is on 50-55C. I also use throttlesto -140v cache/140v core.
@@lawrence091409 yes bro Pinas. Di ko pa na repaste, pero nag order na ko sa Lazada ng Grizzly Kryonaut (May16-25 yung delivery). Yung temp na yan from stock paste ni Dell G7. Throttlestop lang talaga nagpapa baba.
Thanks to you i did my first liquid metal application no problem. This laptop (Dell G7_17 7790 ) is complete SHIT without replacing the thermal paste with liquid metal on the cpu. Undervolted the cpu to -.250 core and -.125 cache and the rtx 2060 with -.700 v /1515 mhz and i get around 90 -95 degrees Celsius on the cpu and around 79 degrees Celsius on the gpu playing battlefield 5 on ultra settings. Next time I will even apply liquid metal on the gpu.
I'm waiting for my paste to arrive... I'm getting between 60-95c idle... If I open internet explorer at least 1 core will hit 100c and the fan management is terrible. I don't have enough time right now to return it and go with a different company so I am going to try to fix it. Honestly I've never experienced such horrible cooling in any machine I've owned.
@@michaelm4775 return this shit laptop even with liquid metal re paste and -.250/-.125 cpu/cache undervolt temperature still get to 100 degrees Celsius.
@@PandarenMaster Honestly I wish I could, but if I returned it I wouldn't have a laptop for over a year. I'll have to take the hit on this 1, but I'm definitely doing better research next time. I disconnected the cpu fan and checked the temps without a fan and I still got the same temps lol
I noticed that you have changed the thermal pads (or it seems to me). Does anyone know the perfect size? I've been looking for and there are 0.5mm, 1mm, 1.5mm and 2mm so Iwould like to know which one is the correct! Thx in advance!
The overheat problem with my G7 wasn't event due to thermal paste. It was Dell forgetting to tighten the 7 heatsink screws exactly in the video. Wow! Great job Dell....great job. The heatsink screws need to be tightened until you can't. The springs around them will prevent over-tightening. Dell did however didn't forget to over-tighten the rest of the screws in the system. I had to struggle removing the back cover and couldn't get the fan screws to budge.
Thankfully you dug in and got that sorted, I've since moved back to desktop, I want full control of my components and you just can't get that with a laptop.
Thanks for thos video, this make it look really easy, i used a noctua nt h1, i applied on both gpu and cpu, looked like the stock paste wass all dried up, i have just 6 months with this laptop, and recently i started having 100 c on the cpu, with noctua now i have 82 max on cpu side on gpu i didnt get any benefit unfortunatly, thanks for thw video, btw gpu i had before was 83 85 celsius, now i have an steady 82 celsius, im usign modern warfare to test the results
Corsair LPDDR4 kits are solid, I chose 2666mhz as thats the highest speed supported. NVMe SSD of choice at the time of commenting would be the Intel 670p NVMe. For SATA/Bulk storage I recommend Teamgroup SSDs. Cheap, effective, good quality.
Surprised you didnt throw in the bigger battery since you dont have a secondary drive. I did, I was worried about the different voltages (11.x V vs 15.x V for the smaller one) but it works perfectly fine. Now my laptop can go 4+ hours on battery
Hey there! Have you already done a video for optimising the g7? I really wished I watched this video before purchasing because literally 2 months after the warranty expired the gpu fan started making a clicking noise and now doesnt seem to work at all.
obviously depends on the price. same price? get the 9750H of course, but if the 8750H is cheaper you won't really notice a difference. depends on the rest of the specs tho. are you sure they're the same? I doubt it.
Here's some advice from a G7 user: In terms of graphics don't get the RTX versions, unless you can afford a 2080 Max-P. It's just not worth the price versus the performance. I have a 1660 Ti and it's almost as good as the 2060 Max-Q because the 20 series is only 90-115 W (compared to the 260 W desktop version of the 2060). The "better" the graphics card you get the more you lose in terms of power and I can tell you from personal experience the 1660 Ti (90W) is really good for gaming. If you plan on doing gaming. As far as your question, the 8th gen i5 is definitely not as good as the 9th gen i7. It's certainly noticeable but not night and day. But the difference between the 8th gen i5 vs the 9th gen i5 is not that big. Same goes for i7. Get the best CPU you can afford but keep my graphics tips in mind. It'll save you a lot of money.
I don't think there is a size limit for the SSD, as long as it fits. And thermally, I went from a constant 100c in games with clock speed throttled to around 3.2 to 3.4 ghz, after the liquid metal I was able to run the full 4.0 ghz boost and stay under 100c
@@srctech2579 thank you for answering my question.... that is how dell answered about ssd upgrade. Dell G7 7590 is designed and tested to support maximum storage of One M.2 2230 solid-state drive Up to 512 GB or One M.2 2280 solid-state drive Up to 1 TB.
Hey buddy at the end of the video you mentioned about tweaking and mods to improve performance. So what do you do to improve performance of your laptop
So the laptop is actually power limited, the GPU will boost higher but no power headroom. I downloaded Intel XTU and put a hard limit of 50W on the CPU with a voltage offset of negative -0.125v to lower it's overall power consumption. This gives the GPU 20-25w of power headroom, I went from 1450mhz kn the GPU to almost 1800mhz which is where all performance gains are made
Everything ok with the computer until today? Many people do not recommend putting liquid metal in notebooks because of notebook movement due to its portability
I applied it to the GPU but I had coverage issues, it seems that either the die or the cooler one was not an even surface and I had a gap where I lost contact. Thermal paste performs better than the liquid metal for my unit.
So far it's still pretty much the same, it only dries out if there is a lot of circulating air and based on the heatsink assembly I'd say it's fine. I won't open it up again until temps raise but it's fine so far!
I think this is the 17" version, he mentioned it in his guide here: www.joshualowcock.com/guide/how-to-fix-for-dell-g7-over-heating-dell-g7-cooling-advice/
Did you use any sort of conformal coating or is the black tape dell put on there enough to keep the liquid metal leaking into the transistors? Planning on doing this as well. Great video btw.
I have a Dell G7 7588. Needing to have the thermal paste changed. I have a warranty on it, but prefer to use a better thermal paste then what the tech would use. So any recommendation on what the best paste would be to use. I do alot of gaming and some of the games (Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, Dying Light) just to name a few are high in demand of heating up the laptop. What paste would you recommend. I could get it and have the tech use it
I use either Noctua NT-H1 or Arctic MX-4. Those in my experience have been about the best you can get without over spending. If you want the best, the only paste better would be the Thermal Grizzly thermal paste. Hope this helps tame your machine!
@@srctech2579 Thanks Alot, I appreciate it. I guess Thermal Grizzly will be my choice. I am gaming 5 hours or more a day. So the demand in cooling will be worth it. Thanks again
I put it on my GPU and it actually made temps worse, the CPU where you find most of the benefits. Try it and see, worst case you have to remove it. Just be careful ☺️
Yeah I just did it right now hehehe just don't use anything else to cover the transistors, was it necessary? Or is it okay to leave it with the factory cover?
Nick Schaffner you can still do undervolting. I have the latest BIOS which is 1.12 if I remember. To make it work again, go to the BIOS and reset to default configuration (even if you haven’t changed anything there). That is what I did and it works!
Absolutely, and I recommend thermal paste for users who move the machine often, even though the substrate was covered using liquid metal has risk involved. I recommend Arctic MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1
Liquid metal gave me nearly 20c and kept me from hitting 100c under heavy load. I needed to get as much heat to the heatsink as possible to assist in thermal management
I believe the dell G7 is limited to 2666mHz (2019 model) so while you can spend more to get faster RAM there would be no point as it would still limit this. Ideally go for 2666mHz as you can save money. I upgraded mine to 32GB and works a charm
Beautiful! I just started running linux on my Dell G7 7790 with the RTX 2070, and it gets so freaking hot. I already put regular thermal grizzly kryonaut on, but its not doing enough. I'm going to do liquid metal. I'm at 4TB of storage and 32GB of ram with the 144hz screen, I love this laptop but it desperately needs better cooling lol.
Same here for me, Seth. I have the 7790 with a GTX 1660 Ti and a i5 9300H. It keeps "bupming it's head" at 100 degrees Celsius in ultra performance mode often. I got a cooling pad (havit hv-f2056) and have ordered the Kryonaut on Amazon. The cooling pad helps a bit with lowering the temp 2-3 degrees, but I'm hoping the Kryonaut manages to drop the temps to 85 degrees. Fingers crossed.
@@maskoblackfyreyou both need to undervolt the G7. Literally the first thing you should do before even attempting anything else on the laptop. Reason to undervolt, sadly is because Dell just keeps adding high tier CPUs (which required more power and produce more heat) and keeps making the chassis slimmer which causes less area for cooling. Current cooling design is not sufficient. Need better chassis.
Everything ok with the computer until today? Many people do not recommend putting liquid metal in notebooks because of notebook movement due to its portability
Hi, I have same laptop, and I have a problem: When I play PUBG for 1 or 2 hours, the battery star to drain, on official page of dell they say that it is normal by the hybrid energy mode, but, it is really normal? A new power adapter to 240 w can help me? This happen to you guys? Best regards, awesome video!
Hey Edd. Yeah that's "normal" in terms of "you shouldn't really worry about it". If you feel like it happens too often I suggest you contact Dell support directly.
SRC Tech I had updates today and can no longer undervolt for example on xtu the core offset bar is greyed out and on throttlestop the undervolt won’t apply
That's not good, it's very important that Dell allow us to adjust or offset voltage. Unless they locked it out because they manually adjusted it in the update
Nice! good quality video and the audio was perfect. I will follow these steps. I'm already waiting for the next video. Btw, that laptop was in the DELL UK black friday for a very good price, so you can expect more viewers trying to get more from their G7s in the near future.
@@atm9023 Thanks! I worked super hard and re-voiced it so many times. I do have some tuning guides and a couple of mods in the works. I'm excited to deliver the content!
www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Vengeance-Performance-260-Pin-CMSX32GX4M2A2666C18/dp/B01BGZEVHU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=DDR4+corsair+vengeance+2666&qid=1582560623&sr=8-3 I ordered this exact kit from Amazon, install was easy
Just subscribed!! Awesome content :D! You deserve way more subs and likes. Just wondering, do you have any tips on how I can start out with my G7 15? It's arriving soon and It's my first gaming computer. Just stuff I should know about the cooling, OS, gaming, etc. Thank you so much! I'm going to watch more of your content soon :D! You make thermal pasting look so easy for someone who doesn't know anything about it (like me!). Oh yeah, my G7 is the i7 9750H with RTX 2060. So excited for it to arrive! Keep up the good work dude!!
Just make sure you unplug the battery connector on the bottom, and do not use force on anything and you'll be good to go. I'd suggest using a quality thermal paste like Arctic MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1. Just be gentle, take your time, and have fun!
dont use noctua nt-h1 in a laptop it causes the pump out effect but arctic mx 4 and or thermal grizzly kryonaut are probably the best thermal pastes that wont cause any pump outs or problems on the cpu or gpu
Awesome Video!! I’m probably going to do it now that I saw your video. What tweaks did you make? I am desperate to get good temps out of this thing. I love how you said you wouldn’t recommend this laptop. I wouldn’t either!! I will never buy Dell ever again!
I need to upgrade my RAM too! What RAM do you recommend? Do I stay the the same Hz? (2666) I got the 16GB DRAM. I think I need 32 DDR4. What kind should I get? Anyone!! Please! We obviously all have the same shit laptop. We need to work together to make it worth while!!
I downloaded Throttlestop and enacted a 50w limit for the CPU, no short term boost, just long term only. It helps keep the cooling system from oversaturation. I bought Corsair Vengeance LPDDR4 @ 2666mhz and it worked right out of the box, as that was the stock speed from the laptop before. 16gb is good, 32gb would be killer
What spec is your G7? I am planning to get the G7 i7-9750H + RTX2080 MAX Q. I heard the max q version is clocked down a lot compare to desktop. I am wondering if I can get better performance with a few tweaks like yours.
The GPU die was uneven, or the heatsink itself was. As thin as the liquid metal is, I was never able to get proper hear transfer and the GPU was overheating. It was enough to just use paste, as the CPU was the main problem
@@srctech2579 Everything ok with the computer until today? Many people do not recommend putting liquid metal in notebooks because of notebook movement due to its portability but in this case there seem to be protections around the DIE, right? THx
I just bought this laptop and it doesn't do gaming very well. i7 8750h can't undervolt due to Intel's new security breach and they locked the undervolt with the bios update The Max Q 1060 6gb also can't go above 77c or else it just throttles down to 300mhz. So yeah this laptop is basically broken. Not worth it in 2022, i regret spending $700 CAD on this especially when i could've bought a brand new MSI Laptop for the $100 more :/ with a 1650 and an i5 -10500h which is way better.
I would either Arctic MX-4 (2019 Edition) or Noctua NT-H1 if you don't want to spend more than $10. The best paste would be Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut but it isn't as cheap. All will do very well. I personally just stick to Noctua or Arctic, as you get enough to so this 10 times
@@srctech2579 thanks mate I actually used the MX4 on my Ryzen pc but wasn't sure if you'd have rated it for this dell, I have just received a Dell G7 15 and the heat is mad lol
@@451greenwood Yes, it's durability makes it my choice for laptops, as they aren't as easy to get into. When I received mine it took alot to tame. I also suggest downloading Throttlestop or Intel XTU and undervolting the CPU in addition. Lowers the power voltage, meaning a higher amperage can be used at the same wattage giving you better sustainable boost clocks
This will get you opened up and repasted. Use a good thermal paste and you're set. Check out a program called Throttle stop and enforce power limits to keep the chip from getting blasted to max before settling in at the 45-55w tdp
BATU TORIGO I have the latest BIOS version which 1.12 if I remember and throttlestop is working fine. The secret is that you have to go to BIOS and reset to default config (even if u haven’t change anything there). It will work now.
@@maskoblackfyre it's still an exposed silicon die that needs to make contact with the heatsink. you put a barrier around the die (either with tape or thermal paste or whatever) so the liquid metal shouldn't be coming into contact with that anyway
Обидно что ты платишь деньги. На заводе работают тысячи людей и хороших специалистов, и выпускают с таким температурами, как будто выпустили и никто никогда не тестировал его, проблема диаметр теплотрубок или ещё одной, но нет мы вам кипятильник сделаем чтобы все мучались, и ноутбук за год перестал работать.(-_+)
They are desktop grade in performance now. The 9750h is a locked 8700. They aren't optimizing for heat anymore, they are going to the thermal limit to get the most performance.
@@srctech2579 i dont even wanna see intel anymore im tired of 4 core i5 even in 2020 in there laptop and the price is over $900 can u review a amd one and tell us hows the heat
Soweit ok .Nur wenn ich leute an so empfindlichen elektronic bauteilen ohne Handschuh oder erdung herum schrauben sehr kann ich das nur als stümberhaft ansehen.soory
The 15 inch G7 is much more premium quality than 17 inch. The G7 17 is made of plastic, and the sad part is, DELL didn`t even bother to put bigger fan, battery, more PCIE port or even god damn subwoofer on the 17 inch. What a waste of empty spaces. For those who wants to buy G7, get the 15, that is my advice.
New G7 is much better then the old one
@@therevanchist1123 the 2020 addition?
Peter DeNardi yeah the screen is amazing and the build quality is top notch just got it a couple weeks ago.
@@therevanchist1123 could u make a review please with thermals with and without undervolt
I have the 15 with the RTX 2080. Wondering if I should do the liquid metal. 2019 version
Can you share the tweaking guide for the laptop to maintain optimal cooling and performance
thanks alot man
this will help me in future when i feel like changing the paste
please make UV and OC guide soon!
i subbed and liked great job man
Tip: use a card to first remove larger bits of the old thermal paste so it is easier to remove with the alcohol later and you need less
Best how-to video I've seen for this sort of thing, most of them you can't see shit
I have a G7 7700 2020 edition and thermal throttling is a complete pain on this unit. The only solid solution I found so far is either 1. turning off TurboBoost in BIOS completely or 2. limit the max CPU frequency to around 2.8 - 3.0 Ghz, everything above results in temps of 90°C or more and eventually throttling of the GPU (thanks shared heat pipe...). I thought about changing the thermal paste as I think the 2020 model is similar to this one, but it will void my warranty (the laptop is just a few weeks old). So I had Dells support on the phone today and they gave me the option to send it in. Thing is, they wont just change the thermal paste cos I recommend so, they will "test" all components and if they don't find any issues, they will just send it back unchanged. The whole process takes 1-2 weeks as all devices are being sent out to Poland.
TL:DR - Im torn between just trying to do it myself, despite lacking a video tutorial like this one for the 2020 model , plus losing my warranty for doctoring it myself, or sending it in which might not help at all in the worst case.
You won't void the warranty of your unit by opening it up, if done carefully you won't damage anything. Voiding a warranty over basic maintenance violates your right to repair. Open the beast up and have a look.
Nice video, otherwise you forgot to disconnect the battery. I have a G5 (i7 9750H/GTX 1660Ti) and got quite a good result with TG Kyronaut on both cpu and gpu. Still I dont want to use conductonaut. Maybe later.
Yeah I took it apart several times, when I went to connect the battery in the film I was pretty upset. I was sure I had ruined it lol. It's worth it for the CPU, but it is risky and stains the copper.
i have the same laptop as you go to -150v off set for cpu and i gpu -050v off sett and over clock gpu using msi oc auto with a 500 memory over clock work awsome avr temp 70 cpu and gpu also use kryonault
@@RyanTheMech and the temperatures on the keyboard surface? improvement?
Why do you use Liquid metal on the CPU, but regular thermal paste on the GPU? Is it because the CPU is a bare die, and the GPU is aluminium capped? (I couldn't tell from the video, but I guess?)
Really useful video though, I am looking at how to drop my g7 15 (2019) from 80+ degrees idling in windows..... yeah seriously. IDLING. It is like sitting next to a hoover when playing games its so loud. I have found undervolting and limiting the power to 45 degrees helps a lot with the noise, but its dissapointing that on default settings, it can never reach 4.1+ ghz. Other than Liquid metal, any other things I could try?
I put liquid metal on the GPU, but I'm guessing the die or heatsink surface was uneven and it made temperatures worse. A thicker paste worked way better.
I would download Throttlestop and disable the short term power boost and apply an undervolt to the CPU, something like -0.125 mv offset will do the trick and keep power consumption and heat output down a little.
Did you guys liquid metal last long? Mine got dried and solidified on the heatsink after just a few months. Undervolting did nothing on this laptop from the beginning needed to re paste to liquid metal and then some undervolting for extra. Maybe this time i will tighten the screws more why did it dry up sa fast.
Does it have the issue of liquid metal seaping? Or the black tape helps?
Do you use Alienware Command Center or Dell Power Management? I always set mine to Cool option on Dell Power Management. Normal browsing on battery and with room temp (30C from PH lol) the laptop temp range from 41-45C. But if it is plugged, it is on 50-55C. I also use throttlesto -140v cache/140v core.
bro pinas ka? nag repaste kna ng G7 mo? kamusta temp?
@@lawrence091409 yes bro Pinas. Di ko pa na repaste, pero nag order na ko sa Lazada ng Grizzly Kryonaut (May16-25 yung delivery). Yung temp na yan from stock paste ni Dell G7. Throttlestop lang talaga nagpapa baba.
How come you didn't apply liquid metal to the gpu as well?
No need.
Thanks to you i did my first liquid metal application no problem. This laptop (Dell G7_17 7790 ) is complete SHIT without replacing the thermal paste with liquid metal on the cpu.
Undervolted the cpu to -.250 core and -.125 cache and the rtx 2060 with -.700 v /1515 mhz and i get around 90 -95 degrees Celsius on the cpu and around 79 degrees Celsius on the gpu playing battlefield 5 on ultra settings. Next time I will even apply liquid metal on the gpu.
Awesome, I bet it runs so much cooler and better now. I seen around 20 degrees on the CPU
I'm waiting for my paste to arrive... I'm getting between 60-95c idle... If I open internet explorer at least 1 core will hit 100c and the fan management is terrible. I don't have enough time right now to return it and go with a different company so I am going to try to fix it. Honestly I've never experienced such horrible cooling in any machine I've owned.
@@michaelm4775 return this shit laptop even with liquid metal re paste and -.250/-.125 cpu/cache undervolt temperature still get to 100 degrees Celsius.
@@PandarenMaster Honestly I wish I could, but if I returned it I wouldn't have a laptop for over a year. I'll have to take the hit on this 1, but I'm definitely doing better research next time. I disconnected the cpu fan and checked the temps without a fan and I still got the same temps lol
@@michaelm4775 Do not updatw the bios. If you do undervolting does nothing anymore. I downgraded bios back to 1.9 but still the same. Shit!
I noticed that you have changed the thermal pads (or it seems to me). Does anyone know the perfect size? I've been looking for and there are 0.5mm, 1mm, 1.5mm and 2mm so Iwould like to know which one is the correct! Thx in advance!
The overheat problem with my G7 wasn't event due to thermal paste. It was Dell forgetting to tighten the 7 heatsink screws exactly in the video. Wow! Great job Dell....great job.
The heatsink screws need to be tightened until you can't. The springs around them will prevent over-tightening.
Dell did however didn't forget to over-tighten the rest of the screws in the system. I had to struggle removing the back cover and couldn't get the fan screws to budge.
Thankfully you dug in and got that sorted, I've since moved back to desktop, I want full control of my components and you just can't get that with a laptop.
Thanks for thos video, this make it look really easy, i used a noctua nt h1, i applied on both gpu and cpu, looked like the stock paste wass all dried up, i have just 6 months with this laptop, and recently i started having 100 c on the cpu, with noctua now i have 82 max on cpu side on gpu i didnt get any benefit unfortunatly, thanks for thw video, btw gpu i had before was 83 85 celsius, now i have an steady 82 celsius, im usign modern warfare to test the results
And those results where without undervolting, gonna see how it works with undervomting
how is goinh now? I am having problems to play warzome pc turns get sleep while I am playing :/
@@nuffen had to undervoltthe laptop unfortunately, it really sucks
For the ram and ssd upgrade what do you recommend ? Looking to upgrade both soon i just did my thermal paste on my G7 15
Corsair LPDDR4 kits are solid, I chose 2666mhz as thats the highest speed supported. NVMe SSD of choice at the time of commenting would be the Intel 670p NVMe. For SATA/Bulk storage I recommend Teamgroup SSDs. Cheap, effective, good quality.
Can u show how to remove the rear cover (hinge cover)
Surprised you didnt throw in the bigger battery since you dont have a secondary drive. I did, I was worried about the different voltages (11.x V vs 15.x V for the smaller one) but it works perfectly fine. Now my laptop can go 4+ hours on battery
Hey there! Have you already done a video for optimising the g7? I really wished I watched this video before purchasing because literally 2 months after the warranty expired the gpu fan started making a clicking noise and now doesnt seem to work at all.
I was thinking about getting a g7. One I found has a 9th gen i7 processor and another has an 8th gen i5, would I notice a difference between the too?
obviously depends on the price. same price? get the 9750H of course, but if the 8750H is cheaper you won't really notice a difference. depends on the rest of the specs tho. are you sure they're the same? I doubt it.
Here's some advice from a G7 user:
In terms of graphics don't get the RTX versions, unless you can afford a 2080 Max-P. It's just not worth the price versus the performance. I have a 1660 Ti and it's almost as good as the 2060 Max-Q because the 20 series is only 90-115 W (compared to the 260 W desktop version of the 2060). The "better" the graphics card you get the more you lose in terms of power and I can tell you from personal experience the 1660 Ti (90W) is really good for gaming. If you plan on doing gaming.
As far as your question, the 8th gen i5 is definitely not as good as the 9th gen i7. It's certainly noticeable but not night and day.
But the difference between the 8th gen i5 vs the 9th gen i5 is not that big. Same goes for i7. Get the best CPU you can afford but keep my graphics tips in mind. It'll save you a lot of money.
man, how do you clean the old thermal paste? Isopropilic alcohol is good enought? Do you use antistatic wristband to do this?
No wristband for me, I used Q-tips and isopropyl alcohol for cleaning. It's best to be gentle
SSD is upgradable as you mentioned but what is the maximum size supported? how is the thermal performance after the liquid metal
I don't think there is a size limit for the SSD, as long as it fits. And thermally, I went from a constant 100c in games with clock speed throttled to around 3.2 to 3.4 ghz, after the liquid metal I was able to run the full 4.0 ghz boost and stay under 100c
@@srctech2579 thank you for answering my question.... that is how dell answered about ssd upgrade.
Dell G7 7590 is designed and tested to support maximum storage of One M.2 2230 solid-state drive Up to 512 GB or One M.2 2280 solid-state drive Up to 1 TB.
@@jarjeesdr2734 I don't think so. Put 2TB in it and it works fine.
Could you apply the thermal pads on the aluminum back plate and heatsink to help with dissipation?
I did, and I even applied 1.5mm copper shims to help thermal mass for extra cooling overhead. It helps for sure
@@srctech2579 that's awesome! You should do a video on that.
Hey buddy at the end of the video you mentioned about tweaking and mods to improve performance. So what do you do to improve performance of your laptop
So the laptop is actually power limited, the GPU will boost higher but no power headroom. I downloaded Intel XTU and put a hard limit of 50W on the CPU with a voltage offset of negative -0.125v to lower it's overall power consumption. This gives the GPU 20-25w of power headroom, I went from 1450mhz kn the GPU to almost 1800mhz which is where all performance gains are made
Today I used liquid metal
Test at temperature and pressure
CPU temperature decreases by 20 ℃
Maximum temperature 80 ℃
Standby temperature 60 ℃
Everything ok with the computer until today? Many people do not recommend putting liquid metal in notebooks because of notebook movement due to its portability
Can you use Conductonaut on the gpu too? Planning to re-paste my G7 7790. Nice video.
I applied it to the GPU but I had coverage issues, it seems that either the die or the cooler one was not an even surface and I had a gap where I lost contact. Thermal paste performs better than the liquid metal for my unit.
@@srctech2579 Ok thanks.
a whole year has passed. How is it going? Have you already changed it again? Has it dried out completely?
So far it's still pretty much the same, it only dries out if there is a lot of circulating air and based on the heatsink assembly I'd say it's fine. I won't open it up again until temps raise but it's fine so far!
I have a question I use the Dell G7 17 version and I was wondering if the configurations are the same as the 15 inch one in this video?
I think this is the 17" version, he mentioned it in his guide here: www.joshualowcock.com/guide/how-to-fix-for-dell-g7-over-heating-dell-g7-cooling-advice/
the vid is with the 17inch one itself
Did you use any sort of conformal coating or is the black tape dell put on there enough to keep the liquid metal leaking into the transistors? Planning on doing this as well. Great video btw.
The black tape was placed there by Dell, and as far as longevity, the laptop is still running like a champ to this day! No issues at all
Love how dell new people were gonna liquid metal this laptop
It was needed to keep thermals under control, without liquid metal, the temps were insanely high
I have to disactivate de battery first?
Yes, always remove the battery when doing any upgrades/changes to your laptop.
@@Bh4v92 how i do that?
How do i remove the battery?
I have a Dell G7 7588. Needing to have the thermal paste changed. I have a warranty on it, but prefer to use a better thermal paste then what the tech would use. So any recommendation on what the best paste would be to use. I do alot of gaming and some of the games (Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, Dying Light) just to name a few are high in demand of heating up the laptop. What paste would you recommend. I could get it and have the tech use it
I use either Noctua NT-H1 or Arctic MX-4. Those in my experience have been about the best you can get without over spending. If you want the best, the only paste better would be the Thermal Grizzly thermal paste. Hope this helps tame your machine!
@@srctech2579 Thanks Alot, I appreciate it. I guess Thermal Grizzly will be my choice. I am gaming 5 hours or more a day. So the demand in cooling will be worth it. Thanks again
can I put the thermal grizzly metal compund on both processors?
Yes both GPU and CPU will work great with liquid metal
@@srctech2579 thank you very much, I'll do those today
@@morizcaballero How did it work out for you?
Seems concise and simple. Too scared to try it out though
the body flex jeez
Hey, I'm thinking of applying liquid metal, can I put it on both CPU and GPU?
I put it on my GPU and it actually made temps worse, the CPU where you find most of the benefits. Try it and see, worst case you have to remove it. Just be careful ☺️
Yeah I just did it right now hehehe just don't use anything else to cover the transistors, was it necessary? Or is it okay to leave it with the factory cover?
Would you recommend liquid metal for the g7 over traditional thermal paste now that undervolting has been taken away
Nick Schaffner you can still do undervolting. I have the latest BIOS which is 1.12 if I remember. To make it work again, go to the BIOS and reset to default configuration (even if you haven’t changed anything there). That is what I did and it works!
niks niks doesn’t work man just tried it again. Throttlestop and xtu still are useless. Plundervolt is a real sun of a bitch..
It works for me, reflash your bios to 1.9 then go to bios and reset to default settings. All options will be open in xtu. u can easily undervolt
can thermal paste used for both ???
Absolutely, and I recommend thermal paste for users who move the machine often, even though the substrate was covered using liquid metal has risk involved. I recommend Arctic MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1
@@srctech2579
Great. thanks for uploading video
How many screen cable pic does the 1660ti g7 7590 ... can i upgrade the screen to 144hz
Excellent video! Can you tell me where finger print reader connector is ?
Mine didn't come equipped with one, however on these models the fingerprint reader is part of the power button on the keyboard side of things.
What was your reasoning behind, using thermal paste on the gpu, instead of the liquid metal?
Liquid metal gave me nearly 20c and kept me from hitting 100c under heavy load. I needed to get as much heat to the heatsink as possible to assist in thermal management
I want to change my RAM but I'd like to take advantage and chose RAMs with higher frequency, is it a good idea?
I believe the dell G7 is limited to 2666mHz (2019 model) so while you can spend more to get faster RAM there would be no point as it would still limit this. Ideally go for 2666mHz as you can save money. I upgraded mine to 32GB and works a charm
@@Bh4v92 thanks bro! That's what I need to know. I'll do the same with mine!
Thanks for the tutorial! What's the thickness of the thermal pads? I can count at least 3 or 4 different pad types in your video.
1mm
@@NoobTube06 seguro? 0.5 no?
@@NoobTube06 are you sure? or is this a guess? Because I wanna do this soon here and dont have a way to measure them accurately
Can you put the link where did you buy those memory ram?
I bought mine on Amazon, link below
www.amazon.com/dp/B01BGZEVHU/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_sJr4EbV1ZS7XK
@@srctech2579 Thank you
Beautiful! I just started running linux on my Dell G7 7790 with the RTX 2070, and it gets so freaking hot. I already put regular thermal grizzly kryonaut on, but its not doing enough. I'm going to do liquid metal. I'm at 4TB of storage and 32GB of ram with the 144hz screen, I love this laptop but it desperately needs better cooling lol.
Same here for me, Seth.
I have the 7790 with a GTX 1660 Ti and a i5 9300H. It keeps "bupming it's head" at 100 degrees Celsius in ultra performance mode often. I got a cooling pad (havit hv-f2056) and have ordered the Kryonaut on Amazon. The cooling pad helps a bit with lowering the temp 2-3 degrees, but I'm hoping the Kryonaut manages to drop the temps to 85 degrees. Fingers crossed.
@@maskoblackfyreyou both need to undervolt the G7. Literally the first thing you should do before even attempting anything else on the laptop. Reason to undervolt, sadly is because Dell just keeps adding high tier CPUs (which required more power and produce more heat) and keeps making the chassis slimmer which causes less area for cooling. Current cooling design is not sufficient. Need better chassis.
Everything ok with the computer until today? Many people do not recommend putting liquid metal in notebooks because of notebook movement due to its portability
How do I disconnect the battery
You should see a connection close to the actual battery and it should even be labeled battery
SRC Tech okay I see it thanks for replying but how do I unplug it just pull up because I don’t want to break it
Hi, I have same laptop, and I have a problem:
When I play PUBG for 1 or 2 hours, the battery star to drain, on official page of dell they say that it is normal by the hybrid energy mode, but, it is really normal? A new power adapter to 240 w can help me?
This happen to you guys?
Best regards, awesome video!
Hey Edd. Yeah that's "normal" in terms of "you shouldn't really worry about it". If you feel like it happens too often I suggest you contact Dell support directly.
Anyone having a problem with intel xtu not letting them undervolt with this laptop?
I would update the drivers and firmware from the Dell website for your device and see if that helps.
SRC Tech I had updates today and can no longer undervolt for example on xtu the core offset bar is greyed out and on throttlestop the undervolt won’t apply
That's not good, it's very important that Dell allow us to adjust or offset voltage. Unless they locked it out because they manually adjusted it in the update
SRC Tech i don’t think they have adjusted it themselves because I’m thermal throttling again
Does it still work on your g7?
What kind of lighting do you use
Ambient lighting, and a lamp nothing fancy
Nice
Don't want to spend to much money on lighting🤑🤑🤑
Nice! good quality video and the audio was perfect. I will follow these steps. I'm already waiting for the next video.
Btw, that laptop was in the DELL UK black friday for a very good price, so you can expect more viewers trying to get more from their G7s in the near future.
@@atm9023 Thanks! I worked super hard and re-voiced it so many times. I do have some tuning guides and a couple of mods in the works. I'm excited to deliver the content!
can you give me the link for vengeance ram? thanks
www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Vengeance-Performance-260-Pin-CMSX32GX4M2A2666C18/dp/B01BGZEVHU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=DDR4+corsair+vengeance+2666&qid=1582560623&sr=8-3
I ordered this exact kit from Amazon, install was easy
Just subscribed!! Awesome content :D! You deserve way more subs and likes. Just wondering, do you have any tips on how I can start out with my G7 15? It's arriving soon and It's my first gaming computer. Just stuff I should know about the cooling, OS, gaming, etc. Thank you so much! I'm going to watch more of your content soon :D! You make thermal pasting look so easy for someone who doesn't know anything about it (like me!). Oh yeah, my G7 is the i7 9750H with RTX 2060. So excited for it to arrive!
Keep up the good work dude!!
Just make sure you unplug the battery connector on the bottom, and do not use force on anything and you'll be good to go. I'd suggest using a quality thermal paste like Arctic MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1. Just be gentle, take your time, and have fun!
@@srctech2579 Thank you so much for the tips!!! Have an awesome summer :)
dont use noctua nt-h1 in a laptop it causes the pump out effect but arctic mx 4 and or thermal grizzly kryonaut are probably the best thermal pastes that wont cause any pump outs or problems on the cpu or gpu
What a wonderful laptop and very serviceable design. Too bad it lacks m.2 slots...
Awesome Video!! I’m probably going to do it now that I saw your video. What tweaks did you make? I am desperate to get good temps out of this thing. I love how you said you wouldn’t recommend this laptop. I wouldn’t either!! I will never buy Dell ever again!
I need to upgrade my RAM too! What RAM do you recommend? Do I stay the the same Hz? (2666) I got the 16GB DRAM. I think I need 32 DDR4. What kind should I get? Anyone!! Please! We obviously all have the same shit laptop. We need to work together to make it worth while!!
I downloaded Throttlestop and enacted a 50w limit for the CPU, no short term boost, just long term only. It helps keep the cooling system from oversaturation.
I bought Corsair Vengeance LPDDR4 @ 2666mhz and it worked right out of the box, as that was the stock speed from the laptop before. 16gb is good, 32gb would be killer
What spec is your G7? I am planning to get the G7 i7-9750H + RTX2080 MAX Q. I heard the max q version is clocked down a lot compare to desktop. I am wondering if I can get better performance with a few tweaks like yours.
Do gaming benchmarks please include escape from tarkov please
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why you didn't use the liquid metal for the 2 components?
I'll appreciate your answer
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The GPU die was uneven, or the heatsink itself was. As thin as the liquid metal is, I was never able to get proper hear transfer and the GPU was overheating. It was enough to just use paste, as the CPU was the main problem
@@srctech2579 I appreciate your attention, thanks :)
@@srctech2579 Everything ok with the computer until today? Many people do not recommend putting liquid metal in notebooks because of notebook movement due to its portability but in this case there seem to be protections around the DIE, right? THx
I just bought this laptop and it doesn't do gaming very well. i7 8750h can't undervolt due to Intel's new security breach and they locked the undervolt with the bios update The Max Q 1060 6gb also can't go above 77c or else it just throttles down to 300mhz. So yeah this laptop is basically broken. Not worth it in 2022, i regret spending $700 CAD on this especially when i could've bought a brand new MSI Laptop for the $100 more :/ with a 1650 and an i5 -10500h which is way better.
If you wasn’t going to use liquid metal what paste would you have used? As alternative? Because let’s be reasonable dells paste is just pants
I would either Arctic MX-4 (2019 Edition) or Noctua NT-H1 if you don't want to spend more than $10. The best paste would be Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut but it isn't as cheap. All will do very well. I personally just stick to Noctua or Arctic, as you get enough to so this 10 times
@@srctech2579 thanks mate I actually used the MX4 on my Ryzen pc but wasn't sure if you'd have rated it for this dell, I have just received a Dell G7 15 and the heat is mad lol
@@451greenwood Yes, it's durability makes it my choice for laptops, as they aren't as easy to get into. When I received mine it took alot to tame. I also suggest downloading Throttlestop or Intel XTU and undervolting the CPU in addition. Lowers the power voltage, meaning a higher amperage can be used at the same wattage giving you better sustainable boost clocks
@@srctech2579 Can you please update the description in the video because undervolting is no longer possible on the new Dell G series.
Im here because my g7 7700 BRAND NEW Is theramal throttling in loading screens in games.....
This will get you opened up and repasted. Use a good thermal paste and you're set. Check out a program called Throttle stop and enforce power limits to keep the chip from getting blasted to max before settling in at the 45-55w tdp
this stupid laptop undervolting stopped working now im back to degrees 100 degrees Celsius gaming that is with liquid metal re paste already
I've seen reports of a Dell Update revoking voltage control in those applications. It's a shame too, this will be the last Dell product for me.
Did u try throttle stop
You can fix the problem
www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/fxdtxt/so_i_purchased_the_dell_g7_with_i7_9750h_2080_max/?
BATU TORIGO I have the latest BIOS version which 1.12 if I remember and throttlestop is working fine. The secret is that you have to go to BIOS and reset to default config (even if u haven’t change anything there). It will work now.
Why didn't you just liquid metal the GPU too for the sake of it?
Liquid metal is electrically conductive and the GPU is different from the CPU in terms of surface, so if you put liquid metal on it would fry the GPU.
@@maskoblackfyre it's still an exposed silicon die that needs to make contact with the heatsink. you put a barrier around the die (either with tape or thermal paste or whatever) so the liquid metal shouldn't be coming into contact with that anyway
Обидно что ты платишь деньги. На заводе работают тысячи людей и хороших специалистов, и выпускают с таким температурами, как будто выпустили и никто никогда не тестировал его, проблема диаметр теплотрубок или ещё одной, но нет мы вам кипятильник сделаем чтобы все мучались, и ноутбук за год перестал работать.(-_+)
its fucking 2020 and still laptops over heat wtf
They are desktop grade in performance now. The 9750h is a locked 8700. They aren't optimizing for heat anymore, they are going to the thermal limit to get the most performance.
@@srctech2579 i dont even wanna see intel anymore im tired of 4 core i5 even in 2020 in there laptop and the price is over $900 can u review a amd one and tell us hows the heat
Because AMD uses a chiplet design, the cores are spread out between 2 dies and will undoubtedly be cooler than Intel right now
Soweit ok .Nur wenn ich leute an so empfindlichen elektronic bauteilen ohne Handschuh oder erdung herum schrauben sehr kann ich das nur als stümberhaft ansehen.soory