Needed a little reset but yes WE ARE SO BACK. I'm also going to work towards rewarding members a little bit more, thus why you got early access to this one!
Excellent episode, great job! Small suggestion: I like seeing highlights of these in Shorts, especially because of mobile screens you're on top of each other and we can see more of your body language. >> Have you considered zooming out a bit for the full RUclips version so we can see more of you?
Haven’t been online for a while. But here is the chat gpt comment for today. “Feed The Trolls” is a Counter-Strike-focused podcast series hosted by Sam “Tech Girl” Wright, featuring regular guest Duncan “Thorin” Shields and various experts from the esports community. The show delves into competitive Counter-Strike topics, including team dynamics, player performances, and industry developments.
One thing I haven't heard mentioned is that I think kyxsan and NiKo would probably work well together since they're both Balkan/from ex-Yugoslavia. Obviously not a guarantee but think people from those countries feel an affinity for each other since they share cultures and language. I think Kassad had a point on HTPM where he suggested Falcons getting kyxsan and having a team with kyxsan, NiKo, and maden plus some others which just seemed like he was subconsciously making a Balkan team.
very good show, thx. Nice to see a complete episode about 1 subject - an especially interesting subject right now, ofc - but u get the chance to go in deapth, many, many good points and observations For example, the comparison of Zonic to Pep - and the way to coach an experienced star team is maybe not the same as having many young players to coach, is rly good. Looking forward to seeing how many of your predictions come true :) btw don't think its Zonics last year in Falcons, no matter what. But ThechGirls points are othervise just on point - ppl with much money, huge investments, also wants huge returns!
Holy shit the 58 minute “what if this the end for niko” throw to thorin had me fucking dying. Classic “fuckin’ hell” response, but man did you really paint that as doom and gloom.
9:02 Twistzz. But agree with your point. Could be that Liquid promised him the same, but in an interview he explicitly mentioned he wanted nothing to do with Falcons.
Say, I don’t see Donk leaving Spirit for any amount of money right now, even if Spirit agreed, even if they didn’t win the Major, cause he seems very content with his team and the staff, all the way to the academy team. I’m not saying he’s never going to leave but there are players that at certain moments wouldn’t want to join falsons even if it meant a bigger paycheck and potential team
44:30 the part you’re forgetting is that falcons is sponsored by the Saudi Arabian state, who got their money from selling their oil. They’re not business magnates, they got lucky.
iran has the same amount plus natural gas plus minerals and gold mines and they still fumble it. it still takes management although less than true business oriented countries
Dude why are you dying on this hill. Everyone else survives off of betting websites that prey on young folks. CS esports is unsustainable without valve handing out cash and creating a closed system like riot did. As far as I’m concerned if you can find a sponsor, whether it be 1xbet or a state sponsor, that’s better than going under
@@quincylinder9738 while it is unethical to work with any saudi owned company one can argue it’s the same for the american teams bringing vc money or some team like astralis or heroic having the state helping them in some way or another.
The rifling group of Niko, Magisk, and Teses is actually pretty nuts role for role when you think about it. Kyxsan is a talented young igl and Degster is your x factor.
Feels weird to ponder why fans dislike Niko loving to Falcons without mentioning where Falcons gets their funding. Niko and Teses are some of my favorite players don’t hurts to see them go to a team I can’t root for.
Dude karrigan himself is sponsored by betting companies. The rest of the scene is. If you’re morally opposed to this stuff you shouldn’t be watching cs PERIOD. Def less lovable than G2 but I support players not orgs
Welcome back. I think it's do or die for zonic. Show us what you can do. Yeah you didn't get Monesy and jimpphat. So what, people have won with less. At least now you have a star rifler, you have a new core that just got top 8 in the major, and you have your protege in magisk. No more excuses.
I love you and Thorin, always bringing fire. Not to bring disrespect to Austin or anything, but he looked so spaced out, like he was bored of the conversation almost. Giving the short and meaningless "Yeah, i 100% agree", "Yeah... what were we talking about", I could be doing that 100%. It just looks bad. It would've been better if it was just you and Thorin, discussing the topic. Bring back someone like DusT. I enjoyed his appearance way more. He brough some very interesting angles, totally different from you 2 and the dynamic was banger. Anyways, it was still a nice episode. Thanks TechGirl!
So I appreciate the comment but just to add some context - Austin was struggling this episode with connection issues and kept getting disconnected, so a good few times he couldn't even hear what we were saying or what the question was. Which might be why he looked a bit spaced out - poor dude was trying to troubleshoot the entire time!
Carlos famously said to his players that he would replace you if you weren’t up to their level but in addition to this he would always put the best of the best players around you in order to win. G2 is supposed to be the Real Madrid, players like Niko should never want to leave if the team is managed like Carlos says. They have in their hands the future of cs (mONESY) and they can’t manage to keep him happy? I guess it’s a hard situation, who do you even get to replace Niko even if you had the money from falcons. This might be a down period for G2 cs.
Love the vid. On Monesy joining my personal theory is that G2 is waiting for the 2nd season to sell him to Falcons for a couple of reasons (IF monesy surely wants to leave): 1, they wanna make the first major for the sticker money 100% 2, If G2 has some big tournament wins maybe they can convince him not to leave 3, they couldnt sell him now since no good replacement AND they wanna stay relevant as a team 4, they still can get money just less if they sell him then (but with the sticker money its 100% more than selling him now and lose the stickers). But its very bad outlook that G2's biggest problem isnt even snax-Taz but Peca and the management.
on techgirlz take about “who wouldn’t go to falcons” didn’t twistzz decline their offer before he went to liquid? also, s1mple had the option sitting right there and said himself he’s not going. i saw where she was coming from, but there’s actually multiple examples of top players not going there
Here are 2 scenarios I can Imagine why G2 doesn't sell Monesy now. 1. They think they can win with this lineup, and if they win, they can convince Monesy to stay and sign an extension. Which I feel is delusional 2. The offers they are getting for Monesy has been shit, they can make enough money from sponsors and other off the server revenue to feel that keeping Monesy and selling Monesy will bring similar amount of revenue for the org. Which there is no way that's true right? Surely you can get a huge buyout for Monesy if you sell him. Or maybe the G2 management is just incompetent, and they cant see what everyone else sees. Idk
G2 probably want to pay more to m0nesy. Niko is a great player but rifflers are easier to replace than a great awper and you have to consider Niko is getting 28 and isn’t young anymore . Every org would pay a good salary to m0nesy instead of Niko. m0nesy is younger, more consistent the whole year, really good attitude and young. There are a bunch of good rifflers and rookies like kyosuke
9:19 you know who? The one and only, the crack of cracks. *TWISTZZ TURNED DOWN THE BAG* HE CHOSE PATRIOTISM, BEAUTY OF GAMEPLAY AND FRIENDSHIP OVER THE BAG. goat of goats
If he can’t make it happen with NIKO then he’s absolutely a fraud, and Astralis was simply a massive coincidence where everyone peaked at the same time. If you can’t take the ence core or heroic core and make at least major quarterfinals then your the problem, because these cores were better before he came into the picture
I can't understand the point about w0nderful at 22:00 since he really has not proven himself especially choking consistently in big finals (including the major) while b1t and jL had to basically carry him. He is literally OUTSIDE the top10 players despite massive buff of playing for the literal team of the year! Yes, riflers matter more in CS2 but the dropoff in moments that mattered was too brutal IMO. I think the real reason is that s1mple is simply too corrosive and would destroy NAVI from the inside, like everything blade and aleksib built would not be possible with s1mple in the team. NAVI desperately need an elite awper but s1mple will never be the solution unfortunately. He is no longer at the goated level but his intangibles are just as corrosive as always. An impossible equation and I worry about the continuation of his career.
Honestly if Niko ended his career one day, never winning a major, but also not going for the money, he would be devastated. I respect what he's doing, but this maybe means no major
yes you're getting the bag, and you are also promised good players. but keyword is promise. that only works if EVERYONE would want to go to falcons. and some people have rejected them, Twistzz turned them down for example.
I am waiting for this falcons to fail again and zonic making the excuse again that this is only a temporary team and they are waiting for monesy next year
Honestly the Niko move is 90% about the bag. Falcons have the strategy of being a retirement home of legendary players/coaches. Zonic used to be great, but who knows if he's got it still. If you make that argument about Cadian (6 months on a cool down being questionable) where the hell do you put Zonic's form at? Falcons have also made the point in mismanaging the roster and doing terrible job at doing player changes. Falcons just look to be another top 20 team with great presonalities that play avarage as a team. Nothing against taking the bag but is slightly dissapointing in seeing one of the best in esports giving up on winning championships.
He won the major the previous year… albeit against gamer legion but still. Coach form is not the same as player form. Both zonic and niko joined falcons after great performances so they definitely aren’t a retirement team
I feel the answer for Jimmy and M0nesy not signing for falcons is straightforward VALVE RANKINGS, if they had signed them falcons would have had to play tier 2 for 6 months because of not signing a core and they would be ranked outside top 32. That is also the reason Jimmy and M0nesy said no to falcons as they would be playing in a lower tier than their previous teams. But next season or after 6 months (after the 1st major) falcons will surely be inside top 10 or top 15 at the worst. And falcons will be able change 2 players and still be top 20. Which means then falcons will be able to sign Jimmy and M0nesy and still be eligible to play all the top events as they are not changing 3 players.
@14:00 To call himself "The Bag" and then deliver nothing is a bit fraudulent. Ok, they got a major by beating tier 2 teams after they changed to Apex' preferred style. Zonic has a strong legacy ofc after changing the whole paradigm with astralis back in 2018 or something but it has been only downhill for a long time now. He is the Mourinho of cs, just a little bit more delusional maybe.
Even though I am not a fan of Niko, I am disappointed. For me this team is closer to the tier 1.5 garbage than to the top team. Heroic showed really good cs on the major, but the whole season they didnt even play like tier 1 team. Now they add there Niko, who is 100% not happy with what is going on and magisk who is good, but already old player who might lack motivation for building new top roster. Is it stronger than previous G2? Hell no, they dont even look better than this G2 roster with Heavy. So it looks like either Niko went for the bag or he was scammed (or did a bad decision, up to you). Just Niko is not enough for top players to join this team. So in my opinion, if Niko wanted to change the roster and win the major, he would join already top tier teams: Vitality, Faze, Navi, even Mouz: so many options. But he chooses this money bag with doubtful perspectives and bad reputation
Falcons inflated the market with massive buyouts and salaries and they still failed to build a solid team even with this amout of money. There are rumors that Niko is earning 90-100K and is the best payed player , compared to g2 (60k) it’s 50% more doing the same job. Top teams try to build a team while falcons wants to buy whole teams. Niko was probably aware that they won’t get in this short time good players (ewjerkz, jambo rumor) but still decided to take the bag.tbf we are all human and players can’t play their whole life but dislike this move as cs fan is in my opinion normal
G2 dont sell till after the austin major, they get the sticker money and still sell M0nesy for $$$ since Falcons want a proper team ASAP. This allows G2 to scout young awpers to replace him and also has teams looking to shuffle again
I think falcons will fail again mainly due to zonic having a hissy first with the heroic players making mistakes because they aren't they players he wanted then he'll say the reason he didn't do anything again is because he didn't get his pieces. Zonic isn't a fraud but if he doesn't get the bits he likes he won't give 100% and coast on his previous results at other orgs
It's something we chat about during the podcast - coaches who can coach top players and those that can build inexperienced ones. This is zonic's opportunity to showcase he can do both
@TechGirlZA be very interesting to see if he can but he reminds me of pep guardiola, great manager but he doesn't develop players into top 5 teams he takes top 5 teams to number 1
@@TechGirlZA He already had that opportunity for a year though and failed for a year while literally being demonstrated to be awful at the inter-personal side of coaching, berating his players in front of each other (emasculating one in front of the others causing a gap to open up between them, damages synergy and comfort and makes the team worse than if they had no coach at all). If any other coach in any other org in the world was given pieces as reasonable as he had for a full year (and S1mple lol) and made them like HLTV 1784th or whatever in the world lmao they'd be turbo-fired. Fired out of a fucking cannon at a wall. Bro won a load of majors in a completely different game in the best team ever with the best IGL ever potentially doing all the work and cruises off the back of that like it matters in a new game with a new meta with an expectation that he does his job. I get that we can't know how much work he was/wasn't doing in Astralis but the theoretical of having a god IGL with a perfectly synergised team running a new style of CS that dominates the game does allow for a literal irrelevant coach. Like in that theoretical, Ohnepixel could be a 4x major winning coach at that point. I just fail to see how winning majors has much-anything to do with your individual performance at a role. Chances of winning tournaments increase with skill but the skill is seperate in the same way I'm a lot more likely to lose a game of Poker to Phil Ivey than to win it, but it's still RNG and I could still just get dealt dream hands and win. It's obviously a lot easier for us to look at a player like Niko and say "He's won no majors but look how good he's clicking people, he's great" or Fifflaren and be like "He's won a major but uh... He's not the greatest player in the world..." but you kinda gotta do the same with coaches to a degree I feel. We can't just look at results and directly extrapolate skill levels. I get that I'm a Zonic and Falcons hater but for me all he proved is he can get carried and fluke some majors, then when given a team that normal coaches have to work with all he does is actively detriment them by his existence, have tantrums like an infant and blame the players for him being incompetent. I guess now he has Mouse but much better cuz it has Niko we can see whether he makes them a top 5 team or not because if they're not he's just straight up shit at his job. Fraud.
In the same way that I believe Gla1ve cannot be the GOAT IGL because he only ever was dominant with the same lineup, I believe Zonic cannot be the GOAT coach based on what he's done at Falcons. He's definitely not a fraud, but he is now significantly behind b1ade for me.
I want to say Niko wants a team that is new and he prob lost faith to the organization. So I was not surprised when the CEO did that interview + when Niko lost to the major... I was like "Ok I see why Niko wants to go to Falcons he prob want to win the Major with a different new team." So I have nothing to say about Niko and I want to say good luck to him. I enjoyed Niko's game but I don't understand why people say Niko is getting the bag, I seen him being top 4 HLTV he still has that passion even though he still has that small slump until ESL Pro League.
I find it a bit weird to hear Austin say that this Falcons lineup would beat Heroic, and perhaps beat FaZe, because they have Niko and Magisk. G2 had Niko, m0nesy and malbs, which is a ludicrous amount of star power and that wasn't enough to beat FaZe. Surely where Falcons "beats" the G2 lineup is the tactical ability.
Yea idk why everyone wants Niko to stay. He’s been in the team for 4 YEARS and won half the trophies he did at faze while NEVER ONCE getting a competent igl that could create a real SYSTEM. As a result they rely solely on individual overpower and that’s never gonna be consistent. He’s watched blade create a much more consistent TEAM and SYSTEM with way worse players that is more successful in less time
Been dying for a CS podcast! Let’s go!!
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Talking counter also dropped today
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you are back !!!! LETS GOOO .. i was starving, the TROLL in me needed more eps hahaha
Needed a little reset but yes WE ARE SO BACK. I'm also going to work towards rewarding members a little bit more, thus why you got early access to this one!
@TechGirlZA lol no offense I didn't realize that lol well thank you. Going on 3 mths now
Excellent episode, great job!
Small suggestion: I like seeing highlights of these in Shorts, especially because of mobile screens you're on top of each other and we can see more of your body language.
>> Have you considered zooming out a bit for the full RUclips version so we can see more of you?
Will take a look into it
Finally, we are so back!
Yayaya!
Haven’t been online for a while. But here is the chat gpt comment for today.
“Feed The Trolls” is a Counter-Strike-focused podcast series hosted by Sam “Tech Girl” Wright, featuring regular guest Duncan “Thorin” Shields and various experts from the esports community. The show delves into competitive Counter-Strike topics, including team dynamics, player performances, and industry developments.
YAY! The show is back!!!
DUST IS HERE
RAAAHHHH IT'S FINALLY BACK
I've been absolutely starving for CS content!!
SO BACK
love having austin on here! hope to see him as event talent soon
One thing I haven't heard mentioned is that I think kyxsan and NiKo would probably work well together since they're both Balkan/from ex-Yugoslavia. Obviously not a guarantee but think people from those countries feel an affinity for each other since they share cultures and language. I think Kassad had a point on HTPM where he suggested Falcons getting kyxsan and having a team with kyxsan, NiKo, and maden plus some others which just seemed like he was subconsciously making a Balkan team.
Hadn't thought of that. Interesting take.
very good show, thx. Nice to see a complete episode about 1 subject - an especially interesting subject right now, ofc - but u get the chance to go in deapth, many, many good points and observations For example, the comparison of Zonic to Pep - and the way to coach an experienced star team is maybe not the same as having many young players to coach, is rly good. Looking forward to seeing how many of your predictions come true :) btw don't think its Zonics last year in Falcons, no matter what. But ThechGirls points are othervise just on point - ppl with much money, huge investments, also wants huge returns!
Stoked you dig the show. We always try dive deep on one trending topic. I think it makes for an interesting take over. Glad you enjoyed the episode.
Holy shit the 58 minute “what if this the end for niko” throw to thorin had me fucking dying. Classic “fuckin’ hell” response, but man did you really paint that as doom and gloom.
Dope podcast. Great job!
Thank you
So damn back! 2025 is looking very exciting for the top teams that did roster moves
FaZe chat coming soon!
Austin is an amazing guest actually, i like he doesnt mind sharing some blunt opinions
I enjoy Austin. He had some connection issues this episode but definitely enjoy having him on as a repeat guest!
@@TechGirlZA he did, didnt take away from the episode in any meaningful way though. barely an inconvenience
off to a good start of the year, let's go!
Hope you enjoyed the episode!
Time to sit back and enjoy while I work
Hope it delivered!
Great episode!
Thank you
Excited for this year!!
EVEN ME
This podcast lineup is more goated than Falcons Will ever be
lulz
9:02 Twistzz. But agree with your point. Could be that Liquid promised him the same, but in an interview he explicitly mentioned he wanted nothing to do with Falcons.
Yeah, there are definitely some players that for either preference or moral reasons wouldn’t join, but it’s definitely the minority
Say, I don’t see Donk leaving Spirit for any amount of money right now, even if Spirit agreed, even if they didn’t win the Major, cause he seems very content with his team and the staff, all the way to the academy team. I’m not saying he’s never going to leave but there are players that at certain moments wouldn’t want to join falsons even if it meant a bigger paycheck and potential team
also most recently s1mple lol
@@denvernuggsjeans i feel like s1mple just said that to save face and it was actually falcons who didn't want him
@@daveauburn1561 i mean maybe but what did falcons do for s1mple that made him want to do them a favor?
When you have to press volume down button two times on your phone, every time Thorin enters the topic... 😂
We’re sooooo back! Another W episode
Thank you
44:30 the part you’re forgetting is that falcons is sponsored by the Saudi Arabian state, who got their money from selling their oil. They’re not business magnates, they got lucky.
iran has the same amount plus natural gas plus minerals and gold mines and they still fumble it. it still takes management although less than true business oriented countries
Dude why are you dying on this hill. Everyone else survives off of betting websites that prey on young folks. CS esports is unsustainable without valve handing out cash and creating a closed system like riot did. As far as I’m concerned if you can find a sponsor, whether it be 1xbet or a state sponsor, that’s better than going under
@@quincylinder9738 while it is unethical to work with any saudi owned company one can argue it’s the same for the american teams bringing vc money or some team like astralis or heroic having the state helping them in some way or another.
This was a bad point. Falcons is THE team that doesn't care about ROI.
Yeah was thinking the same it's not like they're owned by some American business magnates who hate losing money, those guys burn money for fun.
Another banger. Thanks
Only a pleasure and hope you enjoyed it
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The rifling group of Niko, Magisk, and Teses is actually pretty nuts role for role when you think about it. Kyxsan is a talented young igl and Degster is your x factor.
Goated upload
WE'RE SO BACK
magisk and zonic have played with dev1ce, zywoo, s1mple and niko
I am soooo hungry for reflections with niko
EVEN ME
zonic is the Phil Jackson of CS
The alternative of this episode is "the should episode"
Haha
lulz
Feels weird to ponder why fans dislike Niko loving to Falcons without mentioning where Falcons gets their funding. Niko and Teses are some of my favorite players don’t hurts to see them go to a team I can’t root for.
Dude karrigan himself is sponsored by betting companies. The rest of the scene is. If you’re morally opposed to this stuff you shouldn’t be watching cs PERIOD. Def less lovable than G2 but I support players not orgs
who cares where they get the funding
53:37 didn’t Niko tweet that he was surprised that taz wasn’t nominated top 3 coach?
Welcome back. I think it's do or die for zonic. Show us what you can do. Yeah you didn't get Monesy and jimpphat. So what, people have won with less. At least now you have a star rifler, you have a new core that just got top 8 in the major, and you have your protege in magisk. No more excuses.
Hell yeah
I love you and Thorin, always bringing fire. Not to bring disrespect to Austin or anything, but he looked so spaced out, like he was bored of the conversation almost. Giving the short and meaningless "Yeah, i 100% agree", "Yeah... what were we talking about", I could be doing that 100%. It just looks bad. It would've been better if it was just you and Thorin, discussing the topic. Bring back someone like DusT. I enjoyed his appearance way more. He brough some very interesting angles, totally different from you 2 and the dynamic was banger.
Anyways, it was still a nice episode. Thanks TechGirl!
So I appreciate the comment but just to add some context - Austin was struggling this episode with connection issues and kept getting disconnected, so a good few times he couldn't even hear what we were saying or what the question was. Which might be why he looked a bit spaced out - poor dude was trying to troubleshoot the entire time!
@@TechGirlZA Aight, fair enough! Thank you for taking the time to explain, even if you didn't have to!
Yeah Jimi continuing his contract with Mouz seems like it would throw a big stick in to the gears of whatever Falcons hope to do if/when m0nesy joins
I do think they'd like Jimmy, but m0nesy over Degster is the much more needed upgrade I'd say.
Carlos famously said to his players that he would replace you if you weren’t up to their level but in addition to this he would always put the best of the best players around you in order to win. G2 is supposed to be the Real Madrid, players like Niko should never want to leave if the team is managed like Carlos says. They have in their hands the future of cs (mONESY) and they can’t manage to keep him happy? I guess it’s a hard situation, who do you even get to replace Niko even if you had the money from falcons. This might be a down period for G2 cs.
G2 Kyosuke (Copium)
Exactly. Seems G2 has more of a management/peca/Dechelotte problem then anything else.
Viewed from outside, obviously …
Love the vid.
On Monesy joining my personal theory is that G2 is waiting for the 2nd season to sell him to Falcons for a couple of reasons (IF monesy surely wants to leave):
1, they wanna make the first major for the sticker money 100%
2, If G2 has some big tournament wins maybe they can convince him not to leave
3, they couldnt sell him now since no good replacement AND they wanna stay relevant as a team
4, they still can get money just less if they sell him then (but with the sticker money its 100% more than selling him now and lose the stickers).
But its very bad outlook that G2's biggest problem isnt even snax-Taz but Peca and the management.
Interesting m0NESY take. Guess time will tell if you're correct
lets goo!
whoop whoop
on techgirlz take about “who wouldn’t go to falcons” didn’t twistzz decline their offer before he went to liquid? also, s1mple had the option sitting right there and said himself he’s not going. i saw where she was coming from, but there’s actually multiple examples of top players not going there
Ocelote would never let Niko go, and they would win major by now
Here are 2 scenarios I can Imagine why G2 doesn't sell Monesy now.
1. They think they can win with this lineup, and if they win, they can convince Monesy to stay and sign an extension. Which I feel is delusional
2. The offers they are getting for Monesy has been shit, they can make enough money from sponsors and other off the server revenue to feel that keeping Monesy and selling Monesy will bring similar amount of revenue for the org. Which there is no way that's true right? Surely you can get a huge buyout for Monesy if you sell him.
Or maybe the G2 management is just incompetent, and they cant see what everyone else sees. Idk
For me you summed up my thoughts on this really well right here with: IDK.
G2 probably want to pay more to m0nesy. Niko is a great player but rifflers are easier to replace than a great awper and you have to consider Niko is getting 28 and isn’t young anymore . Every org would pay a good salary to m0nesy instead of Niko. m0nesy is younger, more consistent the whole year, really good attitude and young. There are a bunch of good rifflers and rookies like kyosuke
I can’t wait for falcons vs ence. Watch a glaive masterclass.
9:19 you know who? The one and only, the crack of cracks.
*TWISTZZ TURNED DOWN THE BAG*
HE CHOSE PATRIOTISM, BEAUTY OF GAMEPLAY AND FRIENDSHIP OVER THE BAG.
goat of goats
Twistzz turned down the bag but he loves taking part in saudi events.
@@C1ayyy suck on it hater 🤡
Need to get Richard Lewis on the show as he has Zonic on fraud watch
If he can’t make it happen with NIKO then he’s absolutely a fraud, and Astralis was simply a massive coincidence where everyone peaked at the same time. If you can’t take the ence core or heroic core and make at least major quarterfinals then your the problem, because these cores were better before he came into the picture
Lets goooooo
2025
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Feed thy troll techgirl!!
I wonder when techgirl will join lfn haha
lol
I can't understand the point about w0nderful at 22:00 since he really has not proven himself especially choking consistently in big finals (including the major) while b1t and jL had to basically carry him. He is literally OUTSIDE the top10 players despite massive buff of playing for the literal team of the year! Yes, riflers matter more in CS2 but the dropoff in moments that mattered was too brutal IMO.
I think the real reason is that s1mple is simply too corrosive and would destroy NAVI from the inside, like everything blade and aleksib built would not be possible with s1mple in the team.
NAVI desperately need an elite awper but s1mple will never be the solution unfortunately. He is no longer at the goated level but his intangibles are just as corrosive as always. An impossible equation and I worry about the continuation of his career.
I have a lot of question marks around s1mple's career as well, at this point
Will Niko or Elige get a Major first?
Honestly if Niko ended his career one day, never winning a major, but also not going for the money, he would be devastated. I respect what he's doing, but this maybe means no major
No major this season.... I wouldnt write it off completely?
@@TechGirlZAi want to believe
if you respect greed then the word respect means nothing to you, please stop using it
@daytona-x7b yes, it is much more respectable to be a poor loser than a greedy loser...
54:53 exactly, this whole thing doesn’t make sense
Спасибо за крутой контент, Сэм ❤
I don't think people hated early falcons, especially when Kenny was picked up. Only the hate after they throw the bag around?
yes you're getting the bag, and you are also promised good players. but keyword is promise. that only works if EVERYONE would want to go to falcons. and some people have rejected them, Twistzz turned them down for example.
True
I am waiting for this falcons to fail again and zonic making the excuse again that this is only a temporary team and they are waiting for monesy next year
Didn't ence have a decent upswing when falcons pick them up, I feel like it's the literally same thing ence herioc
Honestly the Niko move is 90% about the bag. Falcons have the strategy of being a retirement home of legendary players/coaches. Zonic used to be great, but who knows if he's got it still. If you make that argument about Cadian (6 months on a cool down being questionable) where the hell do you put Zonic's form at? Falcons have also made the point in mismanaging the roster and doing terrible job at doing player changes. Falcons just look to be another top 20 team with great presonalities that play avarage as a team. Nothing against taking the bag but is slightly dissapointing in seeing one of the best in esports giving up on winning championships.
I'd argue they want to be the best team in the world and not a retirement home
He won the major the previous year… albeit against gamer legion but still. Coach form is not the same as player form. Both zonic and niko joined falcons after great performances so they definitely aren’t a retirement team
ooh we're so back
SO BACK
I feel the answer for Jimmy and M0nesy not signing for falcons is straightforward VALVE RANKINGS, if they had signed them falcons would have had to play tier 2 for 6 months because of not signing a core and they would be ranked outside top 32. That is also the reason Jimmy and M0nesy said no to falcons as they would be playing in a lower tier than their previous teams. But next season or after 6 months (after the 1st major) falcons will surely be inside top 10 or top 15 at the worst. And falcons will be able change 2 players and still be top 20. Which means then falcons will be able to sign Jimmy and M0nesy and still be eligible to play all the top events as they are not changing 3 players.
@14:00 To call himself "The Bag" and then deliver nothing is a bit fraudulent. Ok, they got a major by beating tier 2 teams after they changed to Apex' preferred style. Zonic has a strong legacy ofc after changing the whole paradigm with astralis back in 2018 or something but it has been only downhill for a long time now. He is the Mourinho of cs, just a little bit more delusional maybe.
Even though I am not a fan of Niko, I am disappointed. For me this team is closer to the tier 1.5 garbage than to the top team. Heroic showed really good cs on the major, but the whole season they didnt even play like tier 1 team. Now they add there Niko, who is 100% not happy with what is going on and magisk who is good, but already old player who might lack motivation for building new top roster. Is it stronger than previous G2? Hell no, they dont even look better than this G2 roster with Heavy. So it looks like either Niko went for the bag or he was scammed (or did a bad decision, up to you). Just Niko is not enough for top players to join this team. So in my opinion, if Niko wanted to change the roster and win the major, he would join already top tier teams: Vitality, Faze, Navi, even Mouz: so many options. But he chooses this money bag with doubtful perspectives and bad reputation
Falcons inflated the market with massive buyouts and salaries and they still failed to build a solid team even with this amout of money. There are rumors that Niko is earning 90-100K and is the best payed player , compared to g2 (60k) it’s 50% more doing the same job. Top teams try to build a team while falcons wants to buy whole teams. Niko was probably aware that they won’t get in this short time good players (ewjerkz, jambo rumor) but still decided to take the bag.tbf we are all human and players can’t play their whole life but dislike this move as cs fan is in my opinion normal
Honest question : did Austin make any interesting points this episode or was he just window dressing?
Probably got hit too hard by couchlock 😂
G2 dont sell till after the austin major, they get the sticker money and still sell M0nesy for $$$ since Falcons want a proper team ASAP. This allows G2 to scout young awpers to replace him and also has teams looking to shuffle again
I think falcons will fail again mainly due to zonic having a hissy first with the heroic players making mistakes because they aren't they players he wanted then he'll say the reason he didn't do anything again is because he didn't get his pieces. Zonic isn't a fraud but if he doesn't get the bits he likes he won't give 100% and coast on his previous results at other orgs
It's something we chat about during the podcast - coaches who can coach top players and those that can build inexperienced ones. This is zonic's opportunity to showcase he can do both
@TechGirlZA be very interesting to see if he can but he reminds me of pep guardiola, great manager but he doesn't develop players into top 5 teams he takes top 5 teams to number 1
@@SinJonesy the exact football manager Thorin uses in his explanation during this episode!
I don't think you can really call any of the players on this Falcon lineup inexperienced at this point, they've all been in deep major playoffs.
@@TechGirlZA He already had that opportunity for a year though and failed for a year while literally being demonstrated to be awful at the inter-personal side of coaching, berating his players in front of each other (emasculating one in front of the others causing a gap to open up between them, damages synergy and comfort and makes the team worse than if they had no coach at all). If any other coach in any other org in the world was given pieces as reasonable as he had for a full year (and S1mple lol) and made them like HLTV 1784th or whatever in the world lmao they'd be turbo-fired. Fired out of a fucking cannon at a wall. Bro won a load of majors in a completely different game in the best team ever with the best IGL ever potentially doing all the work and cruises off the back of that like it matters in a new game with a new meta with an expectation that he does his job.
I get that we can't know how much work he was/wasn't doing in Astralis but the theoretical of having a god IGL with a perfectly synergised team running a new style of CS that dominates the game does allow for a literal irrelevant coach. Like in that theoretical, Ohnepixel could be a 4x major winning coach at that point. I just fail to see how winning majors has much-anything to do with your individual performance at a role. Chances of winning tournaments increase with skill but the skill is seperate in the same way I'm a lot more likely to lose a game of Poker to Phil Ivey than to win it, but it's still RNG and I could still just get dealt dream hands and win.
It's obviously a lot easier for us to look at a player like Niko and say "He's won no majors but look how good he's clicking people, he's great" or Fifflaren and be like "He's won a major but uh... He's not the greatest player in the world..." but you kinda gotta do the same with coaches to a degree I feel. We can't just look at results and directly extrapolate skill levels. I get that I'm a Zonic and Falcons hater but for me all he proved is he can get carried and fluke some majors, then when given a team that normal coaches have to work with all he does is actively detriment them by his existence, have tantrums like an infant and blame the players for him being incompetent. I guess now he has Mouse but much better cuz it has Niko we can see whether he makes them a top 5 team or not because if they're not he's just straight up shit at his job. Fraud.
In the same way that I believe Gla1ve cannot be the GOAT IGL because he only ever was dominant with the same lineup, I believe Zonic cannot be the GOAT coach based on what he's done at Falcons. He's definitely not a fraud, but he is now significantly behind b1ade for me.
if zonic is a good coach why did he replace sunpayus with simple??
Do we know for sure that was his call? 👀
I want to say Niko wants a team that is new and he prob lost faith to the organization. So I was not surprised when the CEO did that interview + when Niko lost to the major... I was like "Ok I see why Niko wants to go to Falcons he prob want to win the Major with a different new team." So I have nothing to say about Niko and I want to say good luck to him. I enjoyed Niko's game but I don't understand why people say Niko is getting the bag, I seen him being top 4 HLTV he still has that passion even though he still has that small slump until ESL Pro League.
I think G2 will win the next major now Niko has left, that would be cinema anyway
Wow. That would be mental. Can you imagine. haha
Vacation - Flatbush Zombies 0:16 - NA CS is better
can't believe i will be cheering for Falcons... NiKo is goated and deserves respek
I find it a bit weird to hear Austin say that this Falcons lineup would beat Heroic, and perhaps beat FaZe, because they have Niko and Magisk. G2 had Niko, m0nesy and malbs, which is a ludicrous amount of star power and that wasn't enough to beat FaZe. Surely where Falcons "beats" the G2 lineup is the tactical ability.
Preach, you actually have a brain in your head. Austin has a massive head but frequently no brain takes.
I'll never forgive Austin for calling for Karrigan to retire. Man's L takes are S tier
Zonic is not a GOAT coach anymore for me, but he's not a fraud!
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Yea idk why everyone wants Niko to stay. He’s been in the team for 4 YEARS and won half the trophies he did at faze while NEVER ONCE getting a competent igl that could create a real SYSTEM. As a result they rely solely on individual overpower and that’s never gonna be consistent. He’s watched blade create a much more consistent TEAM and SYSTEM with way worse players that is more successful in less time
He definitely is not a team player and that hurts his teams. However he is massively skilled player that looks fun to watch.
@ G2 was so skilled they went for too many ego fights. Niko def will play for the team,he’s the most versatile rifle of all time.
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Do you need a hug?
Austin nade police cs
what a trash guest, he doesnt call anything like it is, thorin has to pull truth out of him.