I'm not sure if you realize just how much secret sauce this guy laid on you. Not only did he share their production strategies, it did it on camera. Most facilities won't let a camera in, let alone talk about the details on camera.
Tycrop is really a great company. I’m so honoured with home much they wanted to share. You can tell how proud they are in the quality of their trailers when they want to show off how they’re made
Much of it is well established industry methods for Lean Manufacturing. But the secret sauce here is actually achieving it in reality and not just theory. Tycrop staff know it won't be easy to copy.
Im Australian, so love the idea of a road train of electric trailers. Each trailer could even be set up to have it's own independent electric/hydraulic steer axle goverened by on-board sensors or gps to make the trailers turn later/wider, so they track better behind the main lead truck with the driver
theres a few mines running dual power road trains which only have a single powered trailer giving 5 powered axels at front and center of the train theyre ungodly abominations but they do manage the job decently having all the trailers powered and electrically would be huge
i work at a landfill that takes construction and demolition waste and 9/10 trailers are tycrop walking floors so its cool to see the process they use to make them
I love y'all Canadians vibe, energy, camaraderie and the way y'all handle each other with respect. Outside of a hockey game. 😂 I'm from florida. So you never know what you get down here
I bet those guys have capacity to make fenders and head ache rack or some other components for edison when they have trailer slow down. Their depth of knowledge would make it worth what they would charge to be a vendor
I can see Edison Motors going really far and really big within the next Few years! Time to change the industry and provide more selection / flexibility. You guys have really great stepping stones and its going to go far and great!
I know it would be a hike, but as an Aussie, I can recommend a factory tour of our Kenworth Factory. Probably still a larger scale to what you're looking at to start with, At the moment they're building ~20 trucks a day across 3 shifts, with each truck being bespoke.
As a young man working at a gas station in Oregon I met the inventor of the walking floor system. He demonstrated his system on a small demo trailer to me.
Sitting here working at Toyota in Tokyo hearing him talk about Toyota things at a trailer factory in Canada… so he’s talking about Toyota processes, you don’t need to be a huge car manufacturer to learn lessons from Toyota, I used Kanban in software engineering before working at Toyota. I think reading a book on the Toyota Production System which every car factory in the world now copies it will save you so much time and money
Their processes were the only reason they were the few car manufacturers that didn't have to stop production due to covid. They had a supply of this one computer chip that totally saved them lmao.
I don't remember ever seeing a TYCROP trailer in the States. For that matter, I also don't recall seeing any triples down here either. I absolutely love everything about these trailers. From design, to components and parts, to their manufacturing process, it's all top notch.
Trips are not common in the US because our infrastructure isn't well suited for it. Most of the trips stop in a drop yard and get split. Just like the yard at the side of big highways that make doubles into singles.
Enjoy watching your progress. Comment to you: like the butterfly hood, old trucker having problem with the effort on some of the flip hoods. On your front fenders, I keep thinking of the old Dodge that had flip out front fenders. Still have your fender there for a tray but, accessing the front end ( for greasing, etc.) and working on lower part of engine (rad, hoses).
Absolutely a great video and you know going through that Manufacturing facility there do more volume than you do right now, but it makes you think about stuff that you probably have never thought about making a prototype and making a production run are two completely different things
I just watched the video where you were talking about electric motors on trailers and I've been excited about the EV heavy truck industry but that really got my attention. That's a game changer.
Man I hope Edison motors takes off, I was really impressed by your hybrid diesel electric semi. The attention to detail, care and passion shown in these videos is exactly what canadian manufacturing needs and I hope to see Edison’s in 30 years rolling around with a million kms on er still haulin ass
At the risk of mentioning something you've already heard, Edison would likely benefit from a relationship with Sandy Munro's team at Lean Design. I love what Edison is trying to accomplish and wish you all nothing but success!
Let me counter it - I think Munro's company is the master you go to for building or fixing your product from good to great for a manufacturing stand point. Reduce this, reduce that, don't use threaded fasteners, etc. But what Chase is preaching is more field repairability, just use standard parts as far as possible, build it extra strong, hopefully see that customers pay extra upfront. These goals aren't really aligned
cause i read it here a bunch of times, trailers with e-axle one of the biggest trailer manufactures here in europe already offers such trailers equiped with technology by a company called Trailer Dynamics it looks like Krone Trailers is the only partner at the moment, but as they are not active in north america mayby it is possible to partner up with them, cause theiy already figured out how to control the trailer e-axle without a data connection with the towing vehicle i would also recommend you to look into factory tours of the big european truck manufactures like Scania, Volvo, Mercedes, MAN, DAF... cause the market here isn´t as protected as the american one and even low wage worker are way more expansive and fewer then in the US, so manufctures need to optimize production to the extreme to save cost
Short term i think it would be a good idea to farm the cab shell and fenders out to a specialty fab shop. Get some good drawings and have them build it, and your team just assemble it onto the chassis and build out the interior. Would probably save a ton of time. Then over time you can bring that fab back in house.
I like that idea. The cab is probably the most labour intensive part. Would be sweet just to have the cabs show up, drop them on the frame, connect up the air,electrical,fluids lines and away ya go.
Yeah this, concentrate on the Edison special driveline sauce and farm out a generic cab. looking forward to seeing the load cell trailer pin for the powered trailers!
Y’all should take some of that jade to some rock sculptures and have them make topsy hood ornaments out of it, and then put those ornaments on the first thousand trucks that you make, and save 1000 of them to put on trucks for your 50th anniversary special editions
So my question is; how do you control the torque on a downhill? I really like the idea of charging your batteries coming down a mountain loaded, but trucks often want to lock up even on second stage on the Jake. What do you use to control that?
"I mean I could help, but it's a lot easier to film." Thanks, now my belly hurts. Because I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard! 😂😂😁😁
So we started with Carl and how to convert a truck to electric. Then we get Topsy as a prototype built in a tent. Now we get to see Edison actually get built as an legit truck manufacture. We are not only seeing the birth of a new truck but the birth of the company. This is like watching Tesla getting built before Elon came in. And you can’t beat a company that does promotional Beers for the Boys.
Chace, if you want more info on kanban and production line design i'd recommend the book "the Toyota kata". They go through an analysis of Toyota's philosophy, which sounds a lot like what this tycrop fella is saying to you, but with more details. Toyota created kanban to manage inventory, but it came out of their Kata which is essentially the scientific method: measure, make a hypothesis, test it, draw conclusions. Glad to see Canadian manufacturers supporting each other like this.
Sounds like you need a rotator tow truck built by our favorite new truck manufacturer... and a flat bed. Also, gentleman... it takes two seconds to remove the tailgate and get it completely out the line of fire and lower the distance to the truck bed...
whets stopping you from running an electric axle in the trailer? use it to assist in rough terrain or climbing hills, and have it generating or braking on downhill/flats? you'd just have to plug it in to the truck
Why don’t you have that company pre-build your trailers? I think for some applications most of the cab frame should still be steel. Assuming that you stay with flat panels all of your body could be Aluminum.
If you ever decide to make a drop in motor kit that bolts in front of a regular pickup truck transfer case with common spline adapters. I would buy one. Just sayin...
That actually doesn't work. Any drag you put on the charging system would use more energy to power than it would recover for a net loss. you can't cheat thermodynamics. That why those free energy devives you see on YT Ads are scams.
Its pretty normal/common to see rear dump unloading trailers. However farming equipment and other industries may have alternitave unloading exempts for specific usage.
i'm wondering, if powered axles would be legal on trailers, if not full time then with a physical disconnect for road use. for your place, some narrow gauge rail cars would be useful and last a LONG time, even under the weight of an assembled truck, reaches the end, you jack the truck up and pull the car out under it.
Lean manufacturing is an idea thats been going through the corporate world. I had to do lean training and my company has nothing to do with manufacturing. Alot of it is common sense.
Trailers with their own motors and battery extension controlled by the same computer, for the Edison Trucks so loads more and range! Extending before the generator kicks in.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Tycrop. After being treated like crap by Fastenal, our mining company, went back to our old suppliers. We'd mark it critical, it would miss one, maybe two shipments from their hub warehouse, they would say it would have overloaded the truck, we would counter, well split the load, we need the material (lots of chain). They did this more than a few times, different supplies.. We went back to reliable suppliers. I haven't seen a Fastenal, in my part of Canada since. Their old local manager, works underground now, make 3 times the money. I'm happily retired now, no more BS.
There's a rock/gem/gold prospecting youtuber out of Kelowna you may have Hurd of you could probably reach out to in order to do some sort of collab with on a weekend maybe 😆
I am sorry to say that we are not selling the beer (legal reasons here in BC). We had it made to give to our employees, suppliers, and customers. Farmhouse Brewing in Chilliwack made the beer, so if you are close or going through town stop in there, and you can try a beer that is very close to the one they made for us.
I always said that the trailer needs to be a giant battery, to be viable for general freight. And just swap trailer, while it gets unloaded and charged. The other idea is for what you are doing, heavy haul, and vocational, when you need all the power.
For general freight tare weight is king but there are a lot of bulky light commodities where the weight of a trailer mounted battery wouldn’t negatively affect the load capacity.
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I'm not sure if you realize just how much secret sauce this guy laid on you. Not only did he share their production strategies, it did it on camera. Most facilities won't let a camera in, let alone talk about the details on camera.
Tycrop is really a great company. I’m so honoured with home much they wanted to share.
You can tell how proud they are in the quality of their trailers when they want to show off how they’re made
@@EdisonMotors Agreed, they sound like a really excellent company to be part of the Edison supply chain.
Much of it is well established industry methods for Lean Manufacturing. But the secret sauce here is actually achieving it in reality and not just theory. Tycrop staff know it won't be easy to copy.
That is 100% true. I work at a tier one supplier to major automotive companies and many of these things are in place but have many pit falls
Board of Directors material!
Im Australian, so love the idea of a road train of electric trailers. Each trailer could even be set up to have it's own independent electric/hydraulic steer axle goverened by on-board sensors or gps to make the trailers turn later/wider, so they track better behind the main lead truck with the driver
theres a few mines running dual power road trains which only have a single powered trailer giving 5 powered axels at front and center of the train
theyre ungodly abominations but they do manage the job decently
having all the trailers powered and electrically would be huge
Fair question - Can you get a some dollys out and hook topsy up for a A triple - Throw on 20t of logs on each one and send it down the flat 👍
Something like that exist already, atleast in Prototype stage ruclips.net/video/zNYXjx286Fc/видео.htmlsi=ze86SZ6pb7kXlhex
That used to be real. The US military had one, but scrapped it before the vietnam war.
Do you clean the tops of the trailers?
i work at a landfill that takes construction and demolition waste and 9/10 trailers are tycrop walking floors so its cool to see the process they use to make them
I love y'all Canadians vibe, energy, camaraderie and the way y'all handle each other with respect. Outside of a hockey game. 😂 I'm from florida. So you never know what you get down here
I bet those guys have capacity to make fenders and head ache rack or some other components for edison when they have trailer slow down. Their depth of knowledge would make it worth what they would charge to be a vendor
I can see Edison Motors going really far and really big within the next Few years! Time to change the industry and provide more selection / flexibility. You guys have really great stepping stones and its going to go far and great!
Hi chace. If you get a chance tour the versatile tractor factory in Winnipeg. They use the first tractor to pull the next down the line. Very Canadian
It’s really cool to see how these trailers are made, I work for Stoughton Trailers here in Wisconsin. There aren’t too many differences.
Wow! I have lived on the lower mainland most of my life and just now learning about the history and current manufacturing. Love it.
I'm so happy for you guys, that you find more and more experienced partners who can help you set up a production.
Holy smokes that's a LOT of jade! Keep the videos coming lads, loving it down here in New Zealand
I know it would be a hike, but as an Aussie, I can recommend a factory tour of our Kenworth Factory. Probably still a larger scale to what you're looking at to start with, At the moment they're building ~20 trucks a day across 3 shifts, with each truck being bespoke.
And there's still a 3 year wait haha
So nice to see a clean, organized, efficient factory. Great tour. 👍👍
Man oh man! What a cool inside look! I want to see a finished Edison truck pulling one of these! 🎉
What a great tour video! Tycorp was great to see
As a young man working at a gas station in Oregon I met the inventor of the walking floor system. He demonstrated his system on a small demo trailer to me.
Sitting here working at Toyota in Tokyo hearing him talk about Toyota things at a trailer factory in Canada… so he’s talking about Toyota processes, you don’t need to be a huge car manufacturer to learn lessons from Toyota, I used Kanban in software engineering before working at Toyota. I think reading a book on the Toyota Production System which every car factory in the world now copies it will save you so much time and money
Which one? I work at the Rav4 plant here in Ontario
Their processes were the only reason they were the few car manufacturers that didn't have to stop production due to covid. They had a supply of this one computer chip that totally saved them lmao.
Really love these long videos touring facilities.
A tour with a boss can be eye-opening, for them !
Tycrop is still my favourite trailer maker. Twin flat floor Avalanche trailers were the best.
I don't remember ever seeing a TYCROP trailer in the States. For that matter, I also don't recall seeing any triples down here either.
I absolutely love everything about these trailers. From design, to components and parts, to their manufacturing process, it's all top notch.
there quite big here in lower mainland of vancouver and also bc. i've seen there 4 axle trucks going towards the border as well.
Trips are not common in the US because our infrastructure isn't well suited for it. Most of the trips stop in a drop yard and get split. Just like the yard at the side of big highways that make doubles into singles.
The beer with company logo is unique.....What is going to be Edison's logo "Real Men Use Electric Axles?" 🙂
Enjoy watching your progress. Comment to you: like the butterfly hood, old trucker having problem with the effort on some of the flip hoods. On your front fenders, I keep thinking of the old Dodge that had flip out front fenders. Still have your fender there for a tray but, accessing the front end ( for greasing, etc.) and working on lower part of engine (rad, hoses).
This was an outstanding video. Very informative. It's nice to see how things are built and how different companies structure their company.
Absolutely a great video and you know going through that Manufacturing facility there do more volume than you do right now, but it makes you think about stuff that you probably have never thought about making a prototype and making a production run are two completely different things
I just watched the video where you were talking about electric motors on trailers and I've been excited about the EV heavy truck industry but that really got my attention. That's a game changer.
I can see some aluminum fenders and cabs coming out of that shop!!
That was my exact thought too.
The Tycrop tour was awesome ,great guys,
Man I hope Edison motors takes off, I was really impressed by your hybrid diesel electric semi. The attention to detail, care and passion shown in these videos is exactly what canadian manufacturing needs and I hope to see Edison’s in 30 years rolling around with a million kms on er still haulin ass
At the risk of mentioning something you've already heard, Edison would likely benefit from a relationship with Sandy Munro's team at Lean Design. I love what Edison is trying to accomplish and wish you all nothing but success!
Sandy Munro has done a video on us.
@@EdisonMotors that's some bragging rights you got going, and at such an early timeframe
Let me counter it - I think Munro's company is the master you go to for building or fixing your product from good to great for a manufacturing stand point. Reduce this, reduce that, don't use threaded fasteners, etc. But what Chase is preaching is more field repairability, just use standard parts as far as possible, build it extra strong, hopefully see that customers pay extra upfront.
These goals aren't really aligned
I love that every video on this channel isn’t a little bit Canadian, every one of them is the most Canadian thing in the internet.
cause i read it here a bunch of times, trailers with e-axle
one of the biggest trailer manufactures here in europe already offers such trailers equiped with technology by
a company called Trailer Dynamics
it looks like Krone Trailers is the only partner at the moment, but as they are not active in north america mayby
it is possible to partner up with them, cause theiy already figured out how to control the trailer e-axle without
a data connection with the towing vehicle
i would also recommend you to look into factory tours of the big european truck manufactures like Scania, Volvo,
Mercedes, MAN, DAF...
cause the market here isn´t as protected as the american one and even low wage worker are way more expansive
and fewer then in the US, so manufctures need to optimize production to the extreme to save cost
18:30 I like this guy, not afraid to push the dirt straight to the cameraman.
Definitely need to take Topsy to visit those guys and do photos with their trailers. May be a great fit with Edison Motors.
Short term i think it would be a good idea to farm the cab shell and fenders out to a specialty fab shop. Get some good drawings and have them build it, and your team just assemble it onto the chassis and build out the interior. Would probably save a ton of time. Then over time you can bring that fab back in house.
I like that idea. The cab is probably the most labour intensive part. Would be sweet just to have the cabs show up, drop them on the frame, connect up the air,electrical,fluids lines and away ya go.
Yeah this, concentrate on the Edison special driveline sauce and farm out a generic cab. looking forward to seeing the load cell trailer pin for the powered trailers!
Y’all should take some of that jade to some rock sculptures and have them make topsy hood ornaments out of it, and then put those ornaments on the first thousand trucks that you make, and save 1000 of them to put on trucks for your 50th anniversary special editions
You're effectively building a machine to build machines. Great tour.
Thank you TYCROP.
The Autocar has my votes😊
Hope someday you create an electric drive axle trailer. Imagine how the game would change if the trailer could help move itself!
the jade rock for the adult ev challenge needs to be carved into the topsy elephant
Hmm a Jade Elephant, that has some deep history both Topsy is worthy of.
Tycrop is a great trailer the company I work for have 12 of them all walking floors.
So my question is; how do you control the torque on a downhill? I really like the idea of charging your batteries coming down a mountain loaded, but trucks often want to lock up even on second stage on the Jake. What do you use to control that?
"I mean I could help, but it's a lot easier to film."
Thanks, now my belly hurts. Because I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard! 😂😂😁😁
So wise , Thank You. There is a show on Tv called how it's made. There are a lot of factories and production facilities that have regular tours
This was a fantastic tour and a great strategy breakdown. The Rocks were cool too!
Rocks are sick
So we started with Carl and how to convert a truck to electric. Then we get Topsy as a prototype built in a tent. Now we get to see Edison actually get built as an legit truck manufacture. We are not only seeing the birth of a new truck but the birth of the company. This is like watching Tesla getting built before Elon came in. And you can’t beat a company that does promotional Beers for the Boys.
This is so useful. Great information
What is the next project and when is it going to start? You guys knocked it out of the park with Topsy! Cannot wait to see what is next!
Good on these guys for giving you a look over the next big hill you'll have to climb.
Y'all are pretty green at picking rocks. Bahaha!
you sound jaded….
AWESOME!
About 36:30 ... basically "prototyping is easy, production is hard' but if you do your prototypes well, you can make production easier.
Dan Hurd will tell you exactly what any rock is, you would love him.
Chace, if you want more info on kanban and production line design i'd recommend the book "the Toyota kata". They go through an analysis of Toyota's philosophy, which sounds a lot like what this tycrop fella is saying to you, but with more details. Toyota created kanban to manage inventory, but it came out of their Kata which is essentially the scientific method: measure, make a hypothesis, test it, draw conclusions.
Glad to see Canadian manufacturers supporting each other like this.
Amazing info. 💜
So one of the road crews marched up there and grabbed it? They have control over the access road through their laydown.
😂😂 the winner gets a big cool rock picke up next to the road, i love it
When will we be able to get us some mud flaps, stone deflectors?
Our F350's and 3500's would look pretty good with them. 🤗🍻✌
Got a live bottom walking floor at work. Its awesome its a 1994 and we've rebuilt the hydraulics on it in the last 3 years
I'm a bit of a rock hound myself. Shipping a 200# rock will be expensive but it's really cool.😊
Get some really big Jade boulders to put out front of Edison’s future manufacturing office and plant.
I think you have found another business partner/supplier :)
Sounds like you need a rotator tow truck built by our favorite new truck manufacturer... and a flat bed. Also, gentleman... it takes two seconds to remove the tailgate and get it completely out the line of fire and lower the distance to the truck bed...
Just found ya becasue of the MNP scandal just a comment to remind the algo about some of your amazing content!
My hope for Canada is back.
what would stop you from putting the same truck e-axles under one of these and connecting power and the controller...?
range energy has a 53 ft trailer A1-01 its electric. would it be a good match for your electric truck?
Id love to get some of that jade to use for an inlay on a door im making
4:16 our best dolly is a Ford ranger.
You should take a tour of timisco
whets stopping you from running an electric axle in the trailer? use it to assist in rough terrain or climbing hills, and have it generating or braking on downhill/flats?
you'd just have to plug it in to the truck
Why don’t you have that company pre-build your trailers? I think for some applications most of the cab frame should still be steel. Assuming that you stay with flat panels all of your body could be Aluminum.
Now to find someone to carve up the Jade hood ornaments.
Tiny Goals
I wonder if its anything intereting to have trailers with motors on the axles, even if its only to use for braking
If you ever decide to make a drop in motor kit that bolts in front of a regular pickup truck transfer case with common spline adapters.
I would buy one. Just sayin...
The trailer could charge the batteries when your driving along then by throwing a switch could be used for dynamic braking.
That actually doesn't work. Any drag you put on the charging system would use more energy to power than it would recover for a net loss. you can't cheat thermodynamics. That why those free energy devives you see on YT Ads are scams.
Is it normal in north america for trailers to only unload from the back?
I saw a lot of side dumpers and hopper bottoms out west, but in general, unless you're exclusively hauling rock, you can fit more in an end dump.
We have a lot of hopper bottoms also.
Its pretty normal/common to see rear dump unloading trailers. However farming equipment and other industries may have alternitave unloading exempts for specific usage.
Depends is what crop is being hauled I believe.
There's a lot of flatbed trailers, conestoga curtains, side curtains, and more depending upon the application.
I have to wonder if you have electric motors on the truck drive axles.... why not not have powered axles on the trailer as well??
Ohhhh that fan interrupted an important bit about welding and fumes. Dammit can you circle back and follow that up?
i'm wondering, if powered axles would be legal on trailers, if not full time then with a physical disconnect for road use. for your place, some narrow gauge rail cars would be useful and last a LONG time, even under the weight of an assembled truck, reaches the end, you jack the truck up and pull the car out under it.
got dirt on his face filming him self riding in the truck after picking up rocks lol no fucks given, respect level 100
Do you wonder if Dan Hurd found & took the boulder???
Can you putt electric axels on a trailer?
Where can I get the edison mud flaps?
Lean manufacturing is an idea thats been going through the corporate world.
I had to do lean training and my company has nothing to do with manufacturing. Alot of it is common sense.
Flow charts and check lists
get them to roll powered axle trailers with the aluminium truck chassis
Trailers with their own motors and battery extension controlled by the same computer, for the Edison Trucks so loads more and range! Extending before the generator kicks in..
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Tycrop. After being treated like crap by Fastenal, our mining company, went back to our old suppliers. We'd mark it critical, it would miss one, maybe two shipments from their hub warehouse, they would say it would have overloaded the truck, we would counter, well split the load, we need the material (lots of chain). They did this more than a few times, different supplies..
We went back to reliable suppliers. I haven't seen a Fastenal, in my part of Canada since. Their old local manager, works underground now, make 3 times the money.
I'm happily retired now, no more BS.
Yeah, fastenal does a pretty trash job at my company also
There's a rock/gem/gold prospecting youtuber out of Kelowna you may have Hurd of you could probably reach out to in order to do some sort of collab with on a weekend maybe 😆
Our factory also produces these accessories and has 12 years of experience
OK, so you moved the truck closer, but you didn’t put the tailgate down. WTF? 😉 🤪 😂
I want to try that beer, where is it sold?
I am sorry to say that we are not selling the beer (legal reasons here in BC). We had it made to give to our employees, suppliers, and customers. Farmhouse Brewing in Chilliwack made the beer, so if you are close or going through town stop in there, and you can try a beer that is very close to the one they made for us.
I tell you, if the company I work for had the same ethics and type of program Tycrop has adopted , the quality in railcars would be second to non.
Told ya to not tell anyone about that ENORMOUS jade boulder... and now it's gone. No more fully Jade Topsy.
I always said that the trailer needs to be a giant battery, to be viable for general freight. And just swap trailer, while it gets unloaded and charged.
The other idea is for what you are doing, heavy haul, and vocational, when you need all the power.
For general freight tare weight is king but there are a lot of bulky light commodities where the weight of a trailer mounted battery wouldn’t negatively affect the load capacity.
WHEN DO WE GET THE FIRST CASE OF EDISON BEER AND CANADIAN BACON