Yet more horror novels from the 1970s that are very 1970s!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @jackthereader
    @jackthereader Год назад +16

    The Boys from Brazil has one of my favourite openings to a novel, where the mannered elderly chap in the clean white suit is suddenly revealed to be a monster.

    • @isirlasplace91
      @isirlasplace91 Год назад +2

      I was just going to comment how much I still enjoy Boys from Brazil!!

  • @recynd77
    @recynd77 Год назад +5

    Aaahhh-these are the books I grew up with…which helps explain a LOT. (I need to watch the first episode now.)

  • @krisprepolec5616
    @krisprepolec5616 Год назад +12

    I read Coma when I was in University in the early 90’s. I thought it was one of the best examples of a female protagonist I had read in a thriller type book. It really put me in the story. I was taking a psychology degree and had an early morning brain anatomy lab, which somehow even creepier after reading this.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I definitely need to track down a copy

    • @morebirdsandroses
      @morebirdsandroses Год назад +2

      I also really appreciated the protagonist. Pretty novel compared to what else I 'd seen. But unsettling story, yes. Trust me, even without your extra insight. 😂

  • @lesliepowell-mccarty7067
    @lesliepowell-mccarty7067 Год назад +7

    My Mom read The Stepford Wives in the 70s when my siblings and I were little. It made her so mad she was mad at the whole family. LOL!! She is 85 now and the book and the original movie still infuriate her. 🤣 I love both the book and the movie. I read Coma when it was first released. It scared the life out of me!

    • @morebirdsandroses
      @morebirdsandroses Год назад +2

      I understand your mother; I felt such a focusing of the frustrated awareness of "being less" and made a commodity. I hope it didn't go too badly for the rest of you 😮 Coma scared the holy heck out of me too. 🦋

    • @lesliepowell-mccarty7067
      @lesliepowell-mccarty7067 Год назад +2

      @@morebirdsandroses My Mom is the best! She wasn't too hard on us LOL!

    • @morebirdsandroses
      @morebirdsandroses Год назад +2

      @@lesliepowell-mccarty7067 Good to hear🌺

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +2

      LOL that's funny!

  • @Skye7188
    @Skye7188 Год назад +1

    Your description of Flowers in the Attic is spot on. It's the naughty, taboo, adult book that high school girls swipe from their parents' book shelves and pass it around even to this day. My mom read it when she was in high school in the 70s. Then, when I was in high school, we were all being edgy little rebels, so we were passing around copies of V.C. Andrew's books because they were taboo and our square parents wouldn't approve. Imagine my shock when my mom saw me reading a V.C. Andrew's book and was like, "Oh, I liked Flowers in the Attic from her." We ended up bonding over her books and would go to Goodwill and have scavenger hunts trying to find all the family series. It's actually getting hard to find used copies because the Lifetime Channel is currently putting out miniseries of the family series, leading to a resurgence in popularity. She also shared with me that my dad took her to the drive-in on their first date to see Flowers in the Attic. He had never heard of the book and didn't know the plot. He thought it was a romance from the flowery name and was confused when my mom was like, "Why on earth would you bring me to see this on a date!" Glad she gave him another chance. Needless to say, V.C. Andrew's has always held a special place in my heart.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      LOL at your dad taking her to see the movie on a date! I love the idea of you and her bonding over these creepy books

  • @michaelk.vaughan8617
    @michaelk.vaughan8617 Год назад +2

    The 🐀 Rats! You can’t get much more 70s than that!

  • @rayhewitt9789
    @rayhewitt9789 Год назад +4

    I think one I expected to see you cover was: The Other by Thomas Tryon. I know you included Harvest Home but this one was the first ,and was instrumental in the horror boom start up of the period in the triad of Rosemary's Baby, The Exorcist . Love your channel btw!

    • @morebirdsandroses
      @morebirdsandroses Год назад +1

      I reread the Other recently and thought it was even more horrifying than I remembered. Good choice!

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I do need to read The Other. Glad you're enjoying the channel!

    • @rayhewitt9789
      @rayhewitt9789 Год назад +1

      @@CriminOllyBlog : Its beautifully done and a short read. The trope used has been recycled many times since but-I think it was startling for its day.

  • @starfleetbrat
    @starfleetbrat Год назад +6

    I had to laugh when you said Flowers in the Attic was a book stolen from parents bookshelves because thats what I did! lol I read Flowers in the Attic (with that original cover) back in the very early 80s, probably way too young. I was around 10 or 11 years old and I think it was the first "grown up" book I ever read, which on reflection was probably not a good thing but I can't hold any bad feelings towards it because I can credit it with me wanting to read more books. I read Dune around the same time from the same bookshelf and somehow didn't like that as much as I did Flowers in the Attic which is crazy to me now. lol

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      Ha! yeah Dune and Flowers couldn't be more different!

    • @michellerever3564
      @michellerever3564 Год назад +2

      People talk about the cat distribution service the universe has, where a cat shows up and its yours, but I think the universe made sure every girl received a copy of Flowers in the Attic no later than 12, ideally at 11, for decades.
      I suspect the universe did this as a favor to George RR Martin, so we all just nodded over the Jaime/Cersei thing. "I mean, blond siblings, of course."

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      @@michellerever3564 Ha ha I love this theory

  • @rhyfedd9168
    @rhyfedd9168 Год назад +2

    Late as usual Olly but I thought The Manitou was one of the weirder 70s horror novels, subsequently filmed

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      I did consider including that one, but haven't read it yet

  • @jmaddren
    @jmaddren Год назад +3

    Coma is such a comfort read. It has the best medical academic vibes.

  • @davidbrian6498
    @davidbrian6498 Год назад +3

    You've picked some great books there, Olly. Really brought back some good memories.

  • @ghostlyreads666
    @ghostlyreads666 Год назад +3

    olly, you literally never disappoint. EXACTLY the videos i'm looking for! 70s horror is my Absolute Favorite, and i have yet to read so much of it! i always trust your recs!

    • @ghostlyreads666
      @ghostlyreads666 Год назад +2

      omg i JUST bought stepford wives! i've loved all the books i've read by levin so far. definitely moving the boys from brazil up the tbr list.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      Thank you! Glad the recs are working for you :)

  • @jimhaggard7436
    @jimhaggard7436 Год назад +5

    Ira Levin’s first novel was 1954’s A Kiss Before Dying. It was made into a movie in 1956 with Robert Conrad and Joanne Woodward and then remade in 1991 with Sean Young and Matt Dillon. The twist comes halfway through rather than at the end. He also wrote Sliver which was made into a mediocre movie starring Sharon Stone and William Baldwin in 1993.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      Yeah I've read most but not all of his books, I might have to make it a project to read or reread them all

    • @ShannonsChannel
      @ShannonsChannel Год назад

      @@CriminOllyBlog Rosemary's Baby was good. I haven't read any of his others, though did see the movies for Rosemary's Baby, Sliver, and Stepford Wives. All good movies IMO.

    • @jimhaggard7436
      @jimhaggard7436 Год назад +1

      @@CriminOllyBlog They’re pretty short. You may already know this, but when Roman Polanski directed Rosemary’s Baby, Ira Levin was thrilled. He thought it was the most faithful adaption of a novel to ever come out of Hollywood. William Castle wondered if it was because Polanski was under 35 and had only directed a handful of movies and believed he had an obligation to shoot the film word for word from the script.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      @@jimhaggard7436 fascinating - I didn't know that

  • @Lokster71
    @Lokster71 Год назад +3

    I remember lots of animal attacks novels in the 70s. Crabs being v popular for some reason.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      I love the Gut N Smith Crabs books, even though they're objectively awful

  • @isirlasplace91
    @isirlasplace91 Год назад +1

    I still own old copies my dad used to own of Coma, Flowers in the Attic and Boys from Brazil.

  • @troytradup
    @troytradup Год назад +3

    Great second list, Olly. Coma is a great addition. I suppose both Coma and Stepford Wives could be classified as SF (as could Boys from Brazil) but I think horror works just fine. Looking forward to your 80s picks!

  • @morebirdsandroses
    @morebirdsandroses Год назад +2

    What a great time that was if you had that antisocial habit of reading horror! My best friend and I also went to the 49 cent horror double features in downtown Santa Ana. Fun stuff. 😅😅

  • @geraldmartin7703
    @geraldmartin7703 Год назад +3

    One '70s book that seems to have dropped off the radar is Links (1978) by Charles Panati, who was a physicist, prolific non-fiction book author, and magazine science editor. The novel, a breezy read, is about "science run awry" in experiments in hypnosis and brain chemistry. The novel begged to be reworked into a screenplay for a movie along the lines of "Altered States" (1980). Much preferable to the hardcover, however, is the paperback edition which includes a far bleaker ending. I suspect it was also the original ending until the first publisher demanded something more "upbeat".

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      That is indeed not on my radar! I'll have to look it up

  • @pazuzu126
    @pazuzu126 Год назад +7

    The Stepford Wives is a great novel, I was impressed by how well-written it was. Sadly, there has never really been a film adaptation that does it justice.

  • @milkcatdog394
    @milkcatdog394 Год назад +1

    I can’t wait for the 80s lineup 🖤

  • @allgirlreview433
    @allgirlreview433 Год назад +1

    I vividly remember the battered copy of Flowers in the Attic that made it into the hands of nearly every girl in middle school.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +3

    9:30 The rats feel like punk. They need guitars and Mohawks.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +2

      That would have been pretty great

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. Год назад

      @@CriminOllyBlog Haha it’s not a bad idea.

  • @BobbyHall-eu1xv
    @BobbyHall-eu1xv Год назад +2

    The Eiger Sanction is a very fun read, and in my opinion second only to the author's masterpiece Shibumi.

  • @centy64
    @centy64 Год назад +4

    The Rats books will always be my favourite Herbert books. I know the first one is a bit rough but even 30 years after reading it's still rattling around in my brain. Would love to see a video on the whole series including '48 (even though it's only a short section) and The City which is a graphic novel.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +1

    4:26 In my mother’s generation, it was the bibliography of ‘Mills and Boon’.

  • @johnbeeston2473
    @johnbeeston2473 Год назад +1

    herbert one of the best in my eyes rats are my all time favs all completed domain last month

  • @sethball2475
    @sethball2475 Год назад +5

    I have read The Eiger Sanction, and even though I knew a lot going in , because I have see the movie a few times, I recommend it highly. It is better than the movie (interestingly, though, stuff that hasn't aged well in the film - that I blamed on Clint Eastwood! - turned out to be in the novel, not just cooked up for the film). I have read a later novel by Trevanian, called Shibumi, in which the author takes a few potshots at the film version of The Eiger Sanction. Anyway, thumbs-up to reading The Eiger Sanction. I may be in the minority, but my preferred Clint Eastwood spy movie from years ago (even though it looks like an airplane technothriller!) is Firefox...and that's from a novel by my favourite espionage novelist, Craig Thomas.
    I thought for sure you were going to Burnt Offerings, when you did your build-up to one that many people had mentioned and that you had somehow dropped off your original 1970s video - but good call on The Stepford Wives.
    A few books to mention, if they haven't been brought up anywhere already (I didn't read every single comment from the earlier video):
    The House Next Door, by Anne Rivers Siddons (which I love).
    And, if we're going in the direction of ground-breaking serial killer novels that came well before Thomas Harris and others blitzed us with them - The First Deadly Sin, by Lawrence Sanders. If Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs are counted as Horror novels, not just Crime Thrillers, then First Deadly Sin is an early prototype for that kind of serial killer novel. And I loved it.

    • @krisprepolec5616
      @krisprepolec5616 Год назад +2

      I read The First Deadly Sin about 10 years ago, and I found myself thinking about his wigs and disguises for sometime after.

    • @morebirdsandroses
      @morebirdsandroses Год назад +2

      Oh, The House Next Door! Thanks for the reminder because that's one of the best in my mind.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I've still not read Sander but really need to give him a try. And yay for Firefox! I read it a couple of years back and really liked it. I was a big fan of the arcade game back in the day as well!

  • @jthutt5042
    @jthutt5042 Год назад +3

    Highly, highly recommended (and please review) THE LISTENER by Robert McCammon.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      Noted!

    • @morebirdsandroses
      @morebirdsandroses Год назад

      Wow! Thank you. He's one of my great favorites and I seem to have missed that. ❤

    • @jthutt5042
      @jthutt5042 Год назад

      @@morebirdsandroses I know. me too. I have read (I think) all of his published work. The Listener is up there with Swan Song and Boy's Life.

  • @PieGuyBill
    @PieGuyBill Год назад +4

    The Sentinel was a book published in 74. I saw the Movie but never read the book. The main character was a fashion model in New York. I was wondering if you were familiar with that one?

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I've heard of it but it's one I've never gotten round to - either the book or the movie (which I think was Michael Winner)

    • @mikebruce3933
      @mikebruce3933 Год назад +3

      Haven't seen the film but was moved to read the book on the basis of the trailer. Plot summary: fashion model moves into a New York brownstone apartment which houses a gateway to hell. Worth a read if I remember. Another one of the books of my teens I wish I'd kept.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      Fashion model + gateway to hell = win

  • @javelin60
    @javelin60 Год назад +1

    Ahhh the nostalgia it brought while watching this.

  • @pbofan
    @pbofan Год назад +1

    I finally read THE STEPFORD WIVES a couple years ago, and found that it holds up quite well. Small surprise…early Ira Levin was consistently great. His debut, A KISS BEFORE DYING, may be the best, most assured debut I’ve ever read - and he was only 24 years old!
    Edit: BY REASON OF INSANITY…man, I haven’t thought of that (terrific) book in decades.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I think I'm going to reread all the Levin I've read and read the ones I haven't

  • @Zoebakerolive
    @Zoebakerolive Год назад +1

    Great addendum! Maybe the omen would be a good one to include ? 1976 I think x

  • @ellagoreyshorrorstories7524
    @ellagoreyshorrorstories7524 Год назад +1

    Great list, as always! I've read some and not read others, have seen MANY of the ones that were filmed. Someone mentioned The House Next Door (1978), by Anne Rivers Siddons, so I'll second that one. I read it a couple of years ago, just after she passed away. It reflects on the themes of suburban affluence, weird and complicated family relationships, and the aftermath of the Vietnam War. One thing I especially liked about Siddons was how smoothly she handles transitions and time passing--might be faint praise, but it's a real skill, I was never good at it!
    I also don't think you've mentioned Ghost Story (1979), by Peter Straub. I tried to read the book a few years ago but couldn't get into it, though I will probably try again. It's not that it's bad, I just wasn't interested at the time, I think. It had a real 70s feel to it, though, because it's about older men. You could just about smell the wood paneling and cigars.
    Another paperback that lived on the bookshelf when I was a kid, but I never got around to reading...Full of ch!ld ab*se, creepiness, predictability...Suffer the Children, by John Saul (1977).
    The other one that I haven't yet read, but the movie was one of the endless cycle of evening horror when I was a kid...Demon Seed, by Dean R. Koontz (1973). It's about a "smart" AI home (which we can compare to today's "smart" homes! that somehow r@pes and impregnates a woman, played by Julie Christie in the film, and the tagline is hilarious. "Julie Christie CARRIES THE DEMON SEED."
    Of course, Stephen King's heyday was the 1970s and early 80s, and there can be tons of back and forth. But I feel that his most 70s work was probably Night Shift, with almost all of the stories (exceptions were the ones published in the student magazine, I looked it up. "Strawberry Spring"and "Night Surf") having been written and published during the 70s. It would be tough to pick his MOST 70s work, though. The Shining is a strong contender, because in addition to the story elements, a big part of the discomfort was Jack's financial emasculation (the economy in the late 70s wasn't particularly good). Carrie was also very 70s, as although it was a very dark story, it also was centred around teenagers. King said that at the time Carrie was published, the price of books was set around the same as a record album, to have an appeal to teenagers, which I thought was an interesting perspective. And while some themes have universal appeal, I think that's why the remakes of Carrie set in the 2000s (2002 and 2013 ) don't have the same feel as the book or the first film.
    Can't wait for the 80s retrospective! That one is gonna need about five parts. :)

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I did consider both Carrie and Ghost Story for the list, but they didn't quite make it

  • @PieGuyBill
    @PieGuyBill Год назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @paulfillingham2958
    @paulfillingham2958 Год назад +3

    I’m a little confused. I was a teenager through the 60’s at uni in the early 70’s and started work in the mid 70’s. Your description of the late 60’s into and through the 70’s bears no resemblance to what I lived through. Someone once said if you remember the 60’s you weren’t there. Maybe that’s true for the 70’s as well for me.
    The 60’s & 70’s were a time of excitement the world was changing it wasn’t grey and drab. A new era especially for the young, a cultural upheaval. The future was bright but to my generation the 80’s saw that expectancy smothered by what really was a the beginning of a drab cultural desert. The death of all we hoped for that lead us to where we are today.
    If you thing this is just the maudlin thoughts of a sad old man you’re wrong. If you didn’t live in the 60’s & 70’s you can’t really understand what it was like.

  • @johnbeeston2473
    @johnbeeston2473 Год назад +1

    coma i loved it

  • @jthutt5042
    @jthutt5042 Год назад +2

    Shibumi by Trevanian is also fantastic.

  • @victoriahiggins5458
    @victoriahiggins5458 Год назад +1

    If you haven't read Trevanion before, the Eiger Sanction is a great place to start. It's a spy versus spy thriller that'll keep you guessing. And one of the climbers is German and definitely is suffering from the aftereffects of WW2.
    Because renowned British climber, David Knowles died during the making of the movie, it was the last book Trevanion wrote that included all the details on how to do things.
    I love Shibumi, but for me the Eiger Sanction has a bigger sense of jeopardy for the main character and less of the he'll ruin women for sex with any other man because he's just that good. (To be fair, the author makes a good case of why that's so 😅).

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      ha hahaha well now I need to read Shibumi too

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 Год назад +2

    I think you should bump The Eiger Sanction up the list.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      It's definitely getting a lot of love in the comments

  • @LatrellMitchell-k1z
    @LatrellMitchell-k1z 11 месяцев назад +1

    I need to read the book named James herbert the rats .

  • @Mister_Fright
    @Mister_Fright Год назад +2

    I can find Coma fairly cheap here for you, if you want me to track one.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      That's really kind, but I'm sure I'll stumble across a copy here once I start buying books again, it's one you see out there a fair bit

  • @mikebruce3933
    @mikebruce3933 Год назад +2

    As someone has mentioned, The Eiger Sanction is a good read but not as good as Shibumi by the same author. That one of two books that helped kick off the Ninja Boom of the 80s so has wider pop culture significance.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад +1

      I definitely need to read Shibumi

    • @mikebruce3933
      @mikebruce3933 Год назад

      ​@@CriminOllyBlog I liked it. Not without its faults but a really good read.

  • @johnnythepillpopper1974
    @johnnythepillpopper1974 Год назад +1

    You know I have never understood why V.C. Andrews is considered horror.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      I agree her work is kind of tangential, but it definitely taps into the gothic tradition

  • @johnbeeston2473
    @johnbeeston2473 Год назад +1

    eiger is a good read go for it

  • @brooklyndweller
    @brooklyndweller 25 дней назад

    Good horror book that gave way to a better horror movie, "Burnt Offerings."

  • @johnbeeston2473
    @johnbeeston2473 Год назад +1

    andrews was very good with this book was only one i read

  • @ahem88
    @ahem88 Год назад +1

    Olly, minor non-book request, can you please compare 50s USA with 50s UK? I know from movies and b ook how the americans where, but I have no ideea how the UK life was back then.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      That’s an interesting topic. I think the major difference over here was that the effects of WW2 were felt more by the civilian population. Many people had homes bombed and rationing was still in place for some time after the war. The 50s was really a time of rebuilding and new hope, although perhaps not as prosperous a decade here as it was in the US.

  • @wendyvilla2904
    @wendyvilla2904 Год назад +1

    💚🖤

  • @philtrabaris7033
    @philtrabaris7033 Год назад

    Jaws by Benchley

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Год назад +2

    I’m sad that my powers of manifesting a ‘70s Cosplay Situation in a video have failed 😂

  • @ITCamefromthePage
    @ITCamefromthePage Год назад +1

    Okay Olly...I know The Rats is in this one.

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      Maybe…

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      Hold on, I’ve just realised you thought The Rats was in the last one even though there were 10 books on the thumbnail and none of them were The Rats

    • @ITCamefromthePage
      @ITCamefromthePage Год назад +1

      Ah yes Flowers in the Attic a book you recently chose for a ROMANCE tag.

    • @ITCamefromthePage
      @ITCamefromthePage Год назад +1

      @@CriminOllyBlog yeah Olly because you said Clickbait was important for making popular videos!

    • @CriminOllyBlog
      @CriminOllyBlog  Год назад

      @@ITCamefromthePage 😂

  • @johnbeeston2473
    @johnbeeston2473 Год назад +1

    so do i scaird me as a kid