One thing I don't inderatand is why the switches are so far away from the patch panels. Much easier to manage and trace with shorter cables. Looks much needed as well. I would also never use all the zip ties in a rack. Use velcro just in case you have to replace or add a cable.
@@tcntad87 yeah, that's the bad part. And that's what I've said: if you have money to buy velcro ties, it's probably a better choice than zip ties. I tend to use zip ties for computer cable management, not networking or data center cable management.
Nice job! I do structured cabling for a living too! We only use velcro and due to rack space being a premium we stack two 48P panels with switch above/below each stack; then you can use 1FT jumpers which gets rid of all that extra cable management on the sides. 90% of what we do is CAT6 with some CAT6A slowly becoming popular. We use Fluke 8000's for testing/certifying each run. Keep up the good work!
I agree - the cable ties appeared to be pulled a bit too ambitiously and we also have been using rolls of velcro since the mid 90's back when cat5 was the bees-knees. Patch management has and will likely continue to be the Achilles heel of patch panels. Making every outlet live as you suggest makes sense where the cost of live ports (1GB) has become dirt cheap for voip and conventional "office" workstations, however when you get into the more pricey 2.5 & 10G interfaces for more demanding applications such as multimedia production and so-on, you hit the conundrum where cost opposes benefit. Patchbox seems to be a good and justifiable option for high density racks where you need to squeeze every bit of RU utilization out of the 45ru racks with consideration to the operating (rental) cost of floor-space and savings by reducing IT administrative overheads (efficient, neat and manageable patching that does not interfere with system cooling/airflow).
@@jasonluong Hi Jason. Greetings from Australia. Over here there is a legal framework of registration for cabling technicians for restricted (lifts), domestic premises and commercial premises. The focus is compliance with minimum technical requirements for installation practices, equipment and components to uphold safety. On top of the registration there are endorsements for installing cable underground (in conduit buried in trenches), another for aerial (on telegraph posts), and for other cable times such as coaxial and fiber optic. We also have two level 3 certifications in communications - one focuses on customer premises while the other focuses on the public infrastructure. These are usually offered with apprenticeships. On top of that there are manufacturer certifications by companies such as Panduit, Krone, Belden, etc... that are more specific to their range of products while BICSI offer manufacturer independent certifications in a wide range of specialties such as infrastructure design (RCCD) and networking. There is the network operations aspect as well where there are certifications on offer by companies like Cisco, Ubiquiti and so-on. Many of these can be DIY at home in preparation to sit a test, others you can do at home and send in your work to a college for feedback and assessment. You do not necessarily have to rope your ankle to a desk in a classroom. Here in Australia there are also a lot of electricians who have diversified into data, obtaining registrations and endorsements with many that go further which can make the market rather competitive, so perhaps that may be a wider career scope for you. Look up some of these manufacturers and industry groups (like BICSI) and size up their offerings, even give them a call and doors of opportunity may open for you. A big element to success is communication and getting known by people who can help you by helping. As to technical standards the international one for block cabling is ISO11801 so you could do some research on that. In Australia the mandatory technical standards relevant for that jurisdiction are freely available PDF downloads, TS008 (equipment) and TS009 (installation practices) and have just gone through a major update accommodating more for block cabling systems, fiber and coax. My point is you can get out there, get some experience under direct supervision of a suitably qualified installer and use that to get through enough qualifications to establish a solid footing in your career. Then you can look at degrees and/or industry certifications. This is a hands-on do-and-learn type career. we are talking about a few weeks of classroom time, a lot of study and committing knowledge to memory and learning how to get yourself around the standards documents for the information relevant to whatever circumstances your work takes you - the rest in the field.
we also do with Velcro, a strong tightening of a twisted pair cable with a tie can lead to an increase in return loss in the cable, FLUKE testing may fail or pass conditionally (with an asterisk)
There's always been a disconnect between installers and maintainers in the IT game. For instance, 48-port switches installed with cables just the right length to go to the panel but no slack to get them out of the way if the switch needs replacing. And there's plenty of non-hot-swap/non-redundant switches out there even at enterprise level.
This whole setup, while commendable, is an example of everything wrong with "network OCD" and exactly how you say, "Looks good but will be a nightmare". Its just makeup in the front, all fucked up in the back, no thought about future. Dont get me wrong, nice setup, but wayyyyyy over rated.
Looks great two things I would change. 1: I would of used Velcro. 2: if possible I would of brought the switch closer to the patch panel. However that being said if there is a reason for the gap between the patch panel and the switch you guys DID the correct thing by separating your vertical cable from the end of the cables that’s going into the cabinet space creating a nice U that makes it a 10000000x easier to trace. Nice work guys!
No.. for this kind of project.. using zip tie is more relevan than using velcro because your using such a long cable and it can hold more than using velcro. Velcro is most suitable when you a using a shorter cable.
@@freshlynerojonal6975 I completely disagree. You can get 30+ foot rolls of Velcro and cut to size I literally do it on a daily basis lol. Plus Velcro allows you to add and remove cables as needed in the future. Cable length and bundle thickness is completely irrelevant.
We have velcro and cable comb but we can't can use because of cat 6A wire its too hard to handle with velcro. velcro is gone lose that's why we use cable tae
usta, kabinet ici tamamda, disi ayni degil, standarda gore 24 lu paketleme gerekiyor 100 lu yaptilar sanirim, plastic klipler kullandilar velcro (cirt cirtli zimbirtilar) kullanmalari gerekir, ilerde bir sorun olsa tek kablo icin 100 luleri acicaklar. ustune bir de plastik klipleri kesicekler.... ayrica kablolari ozel asma trayler oluyor (kanallar) ona koymalari lazimdi bence, cunku yerde fare vs icin cumbus cikacak. cok fazla kabloyu biraraya koyduklarindan ayrica baska sikintilar cikacak datalar la ilgli... bir de kabinetin icini eger server koymayacaklarsa cok kotu sekilde kullandilar! 24 lu switchler yerine 48 li kullansalar daha iyi olurdu patch kablo ve alan yonetimi icin. bir suru standard disi yapilmis is var goruntu icin, ileride cok kolay olmayacak isler cikaracak.
Why dont you use Velcro in Front part of Rack. You can use tie in Backside of patchpannel and Cable trey but using tie in Front area is not good, Velcrows are so easy to manage, Flexible and perfect in Look.
A good method I've seen used is where each switch has a patch panel immediately above and below it. Patch cables from the one above go into the upper row of ports on the switch and those from the patch panel below go into the lower row of ports on the switch.. The cables enter the patch panel from the rear with appropriate strain relief
Nice job guys! I don’t know how the floor plan and your network design looks like, but if it was me first thing I would choose Four-post open racks for this and I would install raised floor and using Plenum rated cables. Second thing I would install IDFs for each floor and/or for longer hallways, this would save lots of cable, increase speed and capacity (with Gigabit or 10gig uplink). And I would install the switches closer to the patch panels and I would use shorter patch cables so there would be no need for extra cable management.
Late to the party, nice install but would give some pointers. 1) use velcro, 2 - use the same type of cable (LSZH is preferred for infrastructure) 3) tray the cabling to the racks from the entry point, dont leave the bundles to run around the floor 4)Some of the bend radi on the cables look way to tight on the cable and the patch leads 5) I would use brother self-laminating labels along the length of the cable rather than 90 degree away with a label 6) Spelling (classrom \ washrom?) 7 - always leave gaps at 1U rather then 1 hole. This will catch up with you when you need to fit 2U products at a later point. 8)Would not cable tie\velcro patch leads in the cable management side bars, use the appropriate length patch leads and allow a natural hang.
Additionally I think the installer should have done Patch followed by switch, then patch. The use of 10ft patch cables is a high waste and a OVERCOST to the customer. You can easily use 6 inch patch cables if you want to do double patch, followed by single switch. Looks great overall though.
I’m nothing but an amateur but I wouldn’t use zip ties and also would put switches next to the patch panel and use small jumper cables for the connections. Less cable, and easier to fix issues.
actually that is the point of zip ties...you organize it into bundles and into smaller and smaller bundles to the end so if you ever do need to replace 1 or 2 cables, you pull the zip tie that you need and the rest is still clean, you aren't tracing that cable you need to replace amongst other lines and tangles
@@dchan19362 I don't think you've seen or worked with a professional server before. ZIP ties are also dangerous for cables since you can pull them too tight potentially damaging cables. Cutting zipt ties obviously also poses a risk for damage. And I can follow your answer to some extent, that's not what was done in this video, they bundled 50-100+ cables with one ZIP tie... good luck fixing that. It may cost a bit more to use velcro, but the person after you will thank you!
@@andrepotts3898 why is it unprofessional? You realize this is probably a different country with different societal norms from where you’re located, right? Besides, I’m certain it’s safer for the cables to be working without hard shoes that could potentially cause damage.
Sinker central. Pencil dressing is the way to go. I've never worked for a company where sinkers are acceptable, or where bundles of more than 24/ 48 max is acceptable. Granted, I've always done large commercial businesses and high spec data centers. If you can't dress perfectly by hand, grab a cable comb. Use velcro instead of zip ties. The patch over work was pretty clean. But , from the time the cables enter the IDF/MDF to the time they hit the rack, you should be able to trace one cable just by looking at it. It's not impossible or even difficult to dress them perfectly. Looks more like a lack of experience and knowledge. You can tell the guys worked hard on it and would love to be able to teach them the proper ways.
You sound like someone who knows their stuff. Former network engineer and IT Director here (but out of the game for 15+ years lol). What are sinkers? And what are the RJ45 keystones shown at 8:08?
@Christopher Michaelson Sinkers are when you have a cable from the outside of the bundle dip into the inside of the bundle. So instead of having a nice bundle where you can follow one cable the whole way, it just ends up looking nasty. The Keystone there look kind of like Leviton Quickport connectors. No punchdown or termination tools needed. You put your cable through the bottom, line up your color code, cut the excess of each pair, and squeeze the top of the connector around the bottom. They're pretty simple. The 6A part number is 6AUJK-SG6, I believe.
It looks very clean. First thing I would do If i were made responsible, is remove all the cable-binding tiewraps and replace it with velcro or something similar. What you did really well is rout the cables so they have room and are not under tension.
And what was the reason to split all the wiring to 3 cabinets? By the available place in the 3 racks, I think you could have put all the switches and patchpanels in one rack (using the mentioned 24P panel - 48P switch - 24P panel setup)
You should never fully populate a rack. Its bad practice because its for proper air flow. New jobs usually have extra RU space for expansion and the client to put servers, etc.
If your are doing a good installation (not like the video) you have to calculate everything, For example you have 42u in total (14 switches, 14 patch panels and 14 patch cable management) , then you have to calculate a minimum of an extra 30% for future equipment (42 * 30= 54,6 --> 55u in total).
More powered equipment means more heat, heat requires good airflow, airflow requires good air paths. These guys knew what they were doing, it did it very well. It is not always possible for the solution provider to get the client to do every single thing they suggest. So those suggesting raise floors and anything else, do it on your own builds, let us know if you get sign off for every single thing you suggest.
The video is sped up, maybe 1.5x or even 2.0x. The problem you experiencing could actually be not pausing long enough on a shot before moving to the next one.
Very nice turnaround, well spaced out, if the rack isn't needed for much else, I see no issues spacing them out like that and maybe use blanking panels to hide the gaps. It becomes a pain if you have to add few more cables later on if it's congested. Good job.
I would separate the bundle from the beginning, I mean each 24 in one bundle, that is the standard, and I use Velcro instead of cable ties, that is the standard also.
Velcro is a mess, always fills with dust plus the cabling can bust loose with gravity over time. Zip ties are the way to go. they never move, and very easy to snip it and replace it. If you're really slick you can even unlock them and reuse them. Zip ties are the way to go my friend
Velcro's are only useful in a dynamic environment, where you are patching/unpatching regularly, otherwise, if they are static (college room is likely to remain as is for years), cable ties are best, stronger.
@@jeremypilot1015 Most reputable companies wouldn't let zip ties near cables. There are reasons that we use velcro. #1 being that most people crank down too hard on the zip ties, which will cause it to fail on a full specturm test. You have to provide tools for the lowest common denominator. Also, you can use velcro as a cable comb to get a perfect pencil dress. It's pretty nice. Not to mention, when you line every piece of velcro up coming down the ladder rack, it looks hella clean. I've never been in a data center or really any corporate building that has allowed the use of zip ties. Or contracts almost always specifically state velcro. But, for home jobs and stuff where it doesn't have to be perfect, I can see the use case for zip ties.
@@Oshino. Most reputable companies do not use velcro anymore. If you find yourself working for one of those places and would like to work for a larger higher paying company that does the job correctly with zip-ties. If you came near a lot of the facilities we deal with dust is a huge factor and velcro is the best at retaining dust. So they are never ever used. Zipties are the preferred method. If you read all my comments, one should fire the idiot who cranks too hard.
Just because the switches have an SFP-Port, it doesn´t make them 10G (wich would btw need to be SFP+). The TP-Link switches don´t look like they are 10G capable, and the aljuha ones are labeled as 10/100/1000, so no 10G aswell. You don´t necisarily need 10G, for example if you were to use a CORE switch and wire up all the "aggregation" switches in a star pattern, or even dual link for port aggregation and thus 2x1G (not 2G, as a network packet can only travel through one route but multiple packets can be split across multiple routes), it´s absuletly enough bandwidht for a PC-classroom and some cameras. If they were to use a central NAS and possibly virtualization for all PCs (where the computers only display a virtual machine, as its often done in school environments) it would make sense to connect these servers to the core switch via a 10G link. But, wether 1G, 10G or 400G, uplink should always be done via SFP, either as fiber or DAC copper, as 1. the switches are optimized for this and 2. using SFP to SFP is much lower latency than regular 1/10GBaseT vie Cat5/6 and more power efficient. In most managed switches, the SFP also have more options when it comes to configuring VLANs and such.
Anyone notice : Washroom Camera @8:34. First the typo and when are you allowed to install cameras in the washroom? Maybe camera to the washroom coridor...
Yes of course camera in the coridore of washroom if we are right on patch panels that's gone bigger for small and remembering we write WC and thank you for correcting
@@naturefuturetech je vous en prie,vraiment j'aime apprendre avec vous.j'aurai stage cette année est ce que pouvez-vous m'accepter de venir le faire avec vous?
Also why have the cables run on the ground? I use a cable ladder, run them up the wall then down into the rack from the top. Trip hazard and less chance of damage from people walking on the cables, dropping stuff the cables or damage when using a ladder to access the ceiling for maintenance. Oh, and man those cables look thick!
And all cables run in cable try but in the server room we are put it in the floor because this type of cable is cat 6 A this cable is heavyweight its difficult to manage in server from top for we put on the floor and also we are discuss With client on that issue i hope u answer the question 🥺
great cable management, and I know this was 2 years ago, and beyond the fact, but: two bugaboos for me: you used Zip ties on your trunk cabling,, which can smash the cables and cause problems down the line.Velcro ties would have actually been better, as they wont do this. was not comfortable with bundles of trunk cable bundles running along the floor behind the racks. techs who will eventually need to work behind the racks, could step on them, this repeatedly happening over years, can also cause conductor damage/failure. also could be a trip hazard. would have been better to run them up the wall and into the top of the racks. just a few friendly pointers, no hate intended. 😀
Thanks for your comment first of all bro this is a cat 6A utp shnider cable it is too hard to handle with velcro even if we use velcro as you after 1 year its gone lose that's why we use zip tai 2nd think you are right we have put cable on wall or in cable manager but we decided that put cable on floor and then make aluminum box wich is not a good idea thanks for your suggestions 🌹
Very neat looking. Are you leaving an extra 1/3 of space between cable management and the patch panel because the patch cords are thick and stiff? I personally like the deeper cable manage arms so that the bend radius on the patch cord is less tight. The deeper management allows more storage space but you do need to recess the vertical rails a bit to allow the doors to close properly.
And for leaving extra 1/3 space between cable management . in last comment i told you sir this cable type is cat 6A this cable is bigger and harder then cat 6 normal for that we are leaving spaces now we can door close but if we are not leave space in patch panels we not can close the door
Very nice job guys ♥ when I watching this video, I was must to do cable management in my room too and I satisfied with my work 😊 thank you for motivation ♥
I see a few comments to move the switches closer to the patch panels. From my experience, adding switches and patch panels is best done with patch panels at the top and devices installed, starting at the bottom. The dressing of the patch cables and maintenance is easier with the shorter or upper device patch cables being on top of longer ones as devices are added.
but you don't say why ? my experience is that sandwitch are better, you can use 15cm patch cable you can see in an instant where thing are connected. instead of following a 3m cable inside a 25 cable mess. if you need more stuff later, add a layer of 24patch/48switch/24patch and 48 patch cable
nice installation. i assume all the net jacks were tested before the patch cables connection. i've seen a lot of cable management solutions, only a few are both easy enough and practical. these seem good enough. don;t bother trying to make it look perfect, it doesn't matter, you should go for nice looking but most important, practical. minimize zip-ties were it matters and replace them (well not now) with velcro.
Pardon me... But on this kind of project. Velcro is not suitable option. For a longer cable like this, its more suitable for you to using zip tie and for a shorter cable, velcro tape is the option. Zip tie can hold as many cable you and last longer but velcro cant last longer
Those zip ties are not over pressured so they are fine. These ties are not supporting a verticle drop where they are actually supporting the weight of the entire cable bundle, these are mainly use to bundle the cables to hold for organization and aesthetics. Very, very little strain on cable bundles so forget velcro. Most techs doing these large installs are usually equip with the multi port testers, where they plug a detector into each port usually 24 or so at a time and trace and test that way.
@@mellow_cake2020 well 32A of what? Amps is not power, 32A at 12v when using DC supplied servers would be 400W, where a 3 phase, 400V supply here in europe delivers 40.000W. How much power you can put in your rack is always defined by the enviroment parameters, like air conditioning, ventilation, ambient temperature, and even the thermal transfer of the room.
Хороший монтаж, но все же я бы предпочел использовать липкие хомуты вместо одноразовых - с ними проще, т.к. данная монтажная схема скорее всего потеряет актуальность уже через года наверняка нужно будет добавить еще пару десятков пользователей.
The biggest mistake is that they had such long runs to the switches. 10cm cables with no cable tidies. No brainer is much more neater and easier to manage then this zip tied long runs. What do you do if you have a faulty cable? Such a ball ache to trace
Nice cabling work. Good job guys!
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One thing I don't inderatand is why the switches are so far away from the patch panels. Much easier to manage and trace with shorter cables. Looks much needed as well. I would also never use all the zip ties in a rack. Use velcro just in case you have to replace or add a cable.
i was also wondering, why weren't they using switch and patch panel closely using shorter patch cable
Longer cablerun might make it easier to service the hardware if needed to be unracked?
Since you have money to buy a big velcro roll, fine.
But the zip ties are cheaper, for sure.
@@K0media what about when you have to add cables or change cable/cables?
@@tcntad87 yeah, that's the bad part.
And that's what I've said: if you have money to buy velcro ties, it's probably a better choice than zip ties.
I tend to use zip ties for computer cable management, not networking or data center cable management.
Nice job! I do structured cabling for a living too! We only use velcro and due to rack space being a premium we stack two 48P panels with switch above/below each stack; then you can use 1FT jumpers which gets rid of all that extra cable management on the sides. 90% of what we do is CAT6 with some CAT6A slowly becoming popular. We use Fluke 8000's for testing/certifying each run. Keep up the good work!
Thank you 💓
I agree - the cable ties appeared to be pulled a bit too ambitiously and we also have been using rolls of velcro since the mid 90's back when cat5 was the bees-knees.
Patch management has and will likely continue to be the Achilles heel of patch panels. Making every outlet live as you suggest makes sense where the cost of live ports (1GB) has become dirt cheap for voip and conventional "office" workstations, however when you get into the more pricey 2.5 & 10G interfaces for more demanding applications such as multimedia production and so-on, you hit the conundrum where cost opposes benefit.
Patchbox seems to be a good and justifiable option for high density racks where you need to squeeze every bit of RU utilization out of the 45ru racks with consideration to the operating (rental) cost of floor-space and savings by reducing IT administrative overheads (efficient, neat and manageable patching that does not interfere with system cooling/airflow).
whats the best degree to get into this career?
@@jasonluong Hi Jason. Greetings from Australia.
Over here there is a legal framework of registration for cabling technicians for restricted (lifts), domestic premises and commercial premises. The focus is compliance with minimum technical requirements for installation practices, equipment and components to uphold safety.
On top of the registration there are endorsements for installing cable underground (in conduit buried in trenches), another for aerial (on telegraph posts), and for other cable times such as coaxial and fiber optic.
We also have two level 3 certifications in communications - one focuses on customer premises while the other focuses on the public infrastructure. These are usually offered with apprenticeships.
On top of that there are manufacturer certifications by companies such as Panduit, Krone, Belden, etc... that are more specific to their range of products while BICSI offer manufacturer independent certifications in a wide range of specialties such as infrastructure design (RCCD) and networking. There is the network operations aspect as well where there are certifications on offer by companies like Cisco, Ubiquiti and so-on. Many of these can be DIY at home in preparation to sit a test, others you can do at home and send in your work to a college for feedback and assessment. You do not necessarily have to rope your ankle to a desk in a classroom.
Here in Australia there are also a lot of electricians who have diversified into data, obtaining registrations and endorsements with many that go further which can make the market rather competitive, so perhaps that may be a wider career scope for you.
Look up some of these manufacturers and industry groups (like BICSI) and size up their offerings, even give them a call and doors of opportunity may open for you. A big element to success is communication and getting known by people who can help you by helping.
As to technical standards the international one for block cabling is ISO11801 so you could do some research on that. In Australia the mandatory technical standards relevant for that jurisdiction are freely available PDF downloads, TS008 (equipment) and TS009 (installation practices) and have just gone through a major update accommodating more for block cabling systems, fiber and coax.
My point is you can get out there, get some experience under direct supervision of a suitably qualified installer and use that to get through enough qualifications to establish a solid footing in your career. Then you can look at degrees and/or industry certifications. This is a hands-on do-and-learn type career. we are talking about a few weeks of classroom time, a lot of study and committing knowledge to memory and learning how to get yourself around the standards documents for the information relevant to whatever circumstances your work takes you - the rest in the field.
Lol ever heard of cat 7 ? cat 8? so last decade, when it comes to first world problems.
Great preparation for CS GO
These people do a way better job than many big companies....
We never use cable ties just in case we need to trace a cable for any reason. Velcro is our solution but all in all very tidy! 👌
I Confirm, only VELCRO.
Cable ties can " crush" the cable causing loss of Cat 6 specification.
Only use Velcro
we also do with Velcro, a strong tightening of a twisted pair cable with a tie can lead to an increase in return loss in the cable, FLUKE testing may fail or pass conditionally (with an asterisk)
Wonderful work thanks for posting thanks you so much for your work😮😮😮😮😮
I love the way you handled those cables, much talent moving them into place by hand.
❤️🥳🥳🥳
Great work guys...
A lot of cable on the floor with any protection.... Next time propose to client to install raise floor....
👍sure
Looks good but it will be a nightmare to trace patch cables, place the switches close to the patch panel to make the life easier for the technicians.
Agree with you.
There's always been a disconnect between installers and maintainers in the IT game. For instance, 48-port switches installed with cables just the right length to go to the panel but no slack to get them out of the way if the switch needs replacing. And there's plenty of non-hot-swap/non-redundant switches out there even at enterprise level.
This whole setup, while commendable, is an example of everything wrong with "network OCD" and exactly how you say, "Looks good but will be a nightmare". Its just makeup in the front, all fucked up in the back, no thought about future. Dont get me wrong, nice setup, but wayyyyyy over rated.
@@ixortair always someone to crap on someone else's work.
@@jeffhaggarty9879 It's great on the back, but the patching on the front is a nightmare
Sangat keren sekali, jadi kepingin punya server Serapi itu 😁👍
i think its better to use velcro straps rather than cable ties. what if they add another cables, it's hard for them to arrange again one by one.
The main reason to use velcro straps instead of cable ties is that cable ties tend to mess up the twisted pairs which can degrade signal quality.
Профи 99- го уровня!!!! очень круто👍💯
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Красиво, аккуратно, глаз порадовали... Сам собирал такие шкафы, до десятка в одной комнате было. Но кабеля на полу это плохо...
Looks great two things I would change. 1: I would of used Velcro. 2: if possible I would of brought the switch closer to the patch panel. However that being said if there is a reason for the gap between the patch panel and the switch you guys DID the correct thing by separating your vertical cable from the end of the cables that’s going into the cabinet space creating a nice U that makes it a 10000000x easier to trace. Nice work guys!
Next time we will use Velcro and switch keep near patch panel thanks for your advice,❣️❣️
@@naturefuturetech seriously though great work!
No.. for this kind of project.. using zip tie is more relevan than using velcro because your using such a long cable and it can hold more than using velcro. Velcro is most suitable when you a using a shorter cable.
@@freshlynerojonal6975 I completely disagree. You can get 30+ foot rolls of Velcro and cut to size I literally do it on a daily basis lol. Plus Velcro allows you to add and remove cables as needed in the future. Cable length and bundle thickness is completely irrelevant.
I always thought switches were INSIDE patch cabinets. But I'm not in the business myself, just an interested amateur.
I really think you did a fine job with all the care for the cable bundles, keystones and labelling. 👏🏻
They did really good job despite having no velcro ties and no cable combs.
We have velcro and cable comb but we can't can use because of cat 6A wire its too hard to handle with velcro.
velcro is gone lose that's why we use cable tae
Sangat keren...
Rapi
Berseni tinggi
Saya suka sekali melihatnya.
Semoga chenel ini berkembang dan sukses
Serta selalu d berikan kesehatan untuk smua
not an standard tough they make it really nice 👍
wow so many cables! when i see all this cables im definitely going to get overwhelmed and panic
48 Port switches, 24 port patchpanel on top and below it, makes cable managment so much easier and cleaner :D
that's how I do it.. ;)
I have done this and I say you guys do nice work. You should be proud you are craftsmen.
good
perfect
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usta, kabinet ici tamamda, disi ayni degil, standarda gore 24 lu paketleme gerekiyor 100 lu yaptilar sanirim, plastic klipler kullandilar velcro (cirt cirtli zimbirtilar) kullanmalari gerekir, ilerde bir sorun olsa tek kablo icin 100 luleri acicaklar. ustune bir de plastik klipleri kesicekler.... ayrica kablolari ozel asma trayler oluyor (kanallar) ona koymalari lazimdi bence, cunku yerde fare vs icin cumbus cikacak. cok fazla kabloyu biraraya koyduklarindan ayrica baska sikintilar cikacak datalar la ilgli... bir de kabinetin icini eger server koymayacaklarsa cok kotu sekilde kullandilar! 24 lu switchler yerine 48 li kullansalar daha iyi olurdu patch kablo ve alan yonetimi icin. bir suru standard disi yapilmis is var goruntu icin, ileride cok kolay olmayacak isler cikaracak.
Benzer videolarla mı ilgileniyoruz bilmiyorum ama her yerdesin usta. Seni görmediğim gün RUclips a girmediğim gündür.
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Why dont you use Velcro in Front part of Rack.
You can use tie in Backside of patchpannel and Cable trey but using tie in Front area is not good,
Velcrows are so easy to manage, Flexible and perfect in Look.
All is perfect! Amazing job! The only thing that I don’t understand is…. Could you explain what does a “washrom camera” do? Yeah, WASHROM!😂 at 7:27
Funny wherever you are in the world one can still appreciate nice work. Something to be be proud of guys good job, greetings form NYC.
Very nice and tidy, outside the cables on the floor.
weldone guys . once of the best cable management i have seen so far . all work work . no talking
A good method I've seen used is where each switch has a patch panel immediately above and below it. Patch cables from the one above go into the upper row of ports on the switch and those from the patch panel below go into the lower row of ports on the switch.. The cables enter the patch panel from the rear with appropriate strain relief
Good work ,,, cables are structured
Nice job guys!
I don’t know how the floor plan and your network design looks like, but if it was me first thing I would choose Four-post open racks for this and I would install raised floor and using Plenum rated cables. Second thing I would install IDFs for each floor and/or for longer hallways, this would save lots of cable, increase speed and capacity (with Gigabit or 10gig uplink). And I would install the switches closer to the patch panels and I would use shorter patch cables so there would be no need for extra cable management.
Wow, what a great job guys! Well done :)
Thanks 🙏 bro🌹
Late to the party, nice install but would give some pointers. 1) use velcro, 2 - use the same type of cable (LSZH is preferred for infrastructure) 3) tray the cabling to the racks from the entry point, dont leave the bundles to run around the floor 4)Some of the bend radi on the cables look way to tight on the cable and the patch leads 5) I would use brother self-laminating labels along the length of the cable rather than 90 degree away with a label 6) Spelling (classrom \ washrom?) 7 - always leave gaps at 1U rather then 1 hole. This will catch up with you when you need to fit 2U products at a later point. 8)Would not cable tie\velcro patch leads in the cable management side bars, use the appropriate length patch leads and allow a natural hang.
Additionally I think the installer should have done Patch followed by switch, then patch. The use of 10ft patch cables is a high waste and a OVERCOST to the customer. You can easily use 6 inch patch cables if you want to do double patch, followed by single switch. Looks great overall though.
Additionally, install patch panels together, and install switches together.
@@jinodd agreed
!!! Cabling work is wonderful.
Not inside the washroom this is in washroom passage
@@naturefuturetech opps, that isn't cleared by Labeling. good job
@@naturefuturetech 4m Asia ?
I’m nothing but an amateur but I wouldn’t use zip ties and also would put switches next to the patch panel and use small jumper cables for the connections. Less cable, and easier to fix issues.
Workmanship is nice. Alone;
What a video shooting, I got dizzy watching it.
Also, music has a schizphrenic effect.
Wish I could walk barefoot in/around our datacenter :( Great clean work! Wish more people had that drive!
that is just insain. Amazing work. God know how your keep track of each cable termination.
Só quem já fez, sabe o trabalho que é pentear os cabos assim, parabéns!!!
Do it right! Do it Once. Well done lads!
Amazing work with Passion
OMG the camera work and editing on this is..... anyway, the topic is interesting :-)
Ooh the horror… zip ties everywhere… 🙈 just imagine having to replace a single cable…
how unprofessional working without shoes
actually that is the point of zip ties...you organize it into bundles and into smaller and smaller bundles to the end so if you ever do need to replace 1 or 2 cables, you pull the zip tie that you need and the rest is still clean, you aren't tracing that cable you need to replace amongst other lines and tangles
@@dchan19362 I don't think you've seen or worked with a professional server before. ZIP ties are also dangerous for cables since you can pull them too tight potentially damaging cables. Cutting zipt ties obviously also poses a risk for damage. And I can follow your answer to some extent, that's not what was done in this video, they bundled 50-100+ cables with one ZIP tie... good luck fixing that. It may cost a bit more to use velcro, but the person after you will thank you!
@@andrepotts3898 why is it unprofessional? You realize this is probably a different country with different societal norms from where you’re located, right? Besides, I’m certain it’s safer for the cables to be working without hard shoes that could potentially cause damage.
Find the broken cable, pull it out put new one beside. Where is the problem? Answer nowhere!
So so Many
Amazing work
Sinker central. Pencil dressing is the way to go. I've never worked for a company where sinkers are acceptable, or where bundles of more than 24/ 48 max is acceptable.
Granted, I've always done large commercial businesses and high spec data centers.
If you can't dress perfectly by hand, grab a cable comb. Use velcro instead of zip ties.
The patch over work was pretty clean.
But , from the time the cables enter the IDF/MDF to the time they hit the rack, you should be able to trace one cable just by looking at it. It's not impossible or even difficult to dress them perfectly. Looks more like a lack of experience and knowledge. You can tell the guys worked hard on it and would love to be able to teach them the proper ways.
Thanks for advice🌹
You sound like someone who knows their stuff. Former network engineer and IT Director here (but out of the game for 15+ years lol). What are sinkers? And what are the RJ45 keystones shown at 8:08?
@Christopher Michaelson Sinkers are when you have a cable from the outside of the bundle dip into the inside of the bundle. So instead of having a nice bundle where you can follow one cable the whole way, it just ends up looking nasty.
The Keystone there look kind of like Leviton Quickport connectors. No punchdown or termination tools needed. You put your cable through the bottom, line up your color code, cut the excess of each pair, and squeeze the top of the connector around the bottom. They're pretty simple. The 6A part number is 6AUJK-SG6, I believe.
finally yt give me interesting video on main site
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A huge of work has been done! Loved it!
You had me until I saw cable ties. But beautiful work regardless.
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It looks very clean. First thing I would do If i were made responsible, is remove all the cable-binding tiewraps and replace it with velcro or something similar.
What you did really well is rout the cables so they have room and are not under tension.
Nice work! 👍🏻
all of those cables on the floor looked kinda sick, like a modern art piece
Incredible.. just incredible
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This much of cables need cable management tray any how its nice and very flexible work
nice cabling, watched at 0.5 speed, it is better
Sorry for troubling 🙏🙏
And what was the reason to split all the wiring to 3 cabinets? By the available place in the 3 racks, I think you could have put all the switches and patchpanels in one rack (using the mentioned 24P panel - 48P switch - 24P panel setup)
You should never fully populate a rack. Its bad practice because its for proper air flow. New jobs usually have extra RU space for expansion and the client to put servers, etc.
If your are doing a good installation (not like the video) you have to calculate everything,
For example you have 42u in total (14 switches, 14 patch panels and 14 patch cable management) , then you have to calculate a minimum of an extra 30% for future equipment (42 * 30= 54,6 --> 55u in total).
More powered equipment means more heat, heat requires good airflow, airflow requires good air paths. These guys knew what they were doing, it did it very well. It is not always possible for the solution provider to get the client to do every single thing they suggest. So those suggesting raise floors and anything else, do it on your own builds, let us know if you get sign off for every single thing you suggest.
I reduced the speed to 0.5x which made me able to actually have the time to see everything.
Racks look great and the cable routing is amazing. Please ask your camera man to slow his movements, I'm a bit motion sick now.
The video is sped up, maybe 1.5x or even 2.0x. The problem you experiencing could actually be not pausing long enough on a shot before moving to the next one.
Really nice job! By the way, those guys deserves proper working shoes and tubular label printer for UTP cable!
Sure
Very nice turnaround, well spaced out, if the rack isn't needed for much else, I see no issues spacing them out like that and maybe use blanking panels to hide the gaps. It becomes a pain if you have to add few more cables later on if it's congested. Good job.
I'm guessing the large spacings are for servers and storage.
Que increíble mucha paciencia y sobre todo administración de espacios.
Flawless arrangement, but only thing is , I dont know how many zip ties we need to break if we have to change a single cable
You just add another and cut an old one
@@ruslan_yefimov that is very good option
Now I got the urge to finally untangle all of the Christmas lights at home!
I would separate the bundle from the beginning, I mean each 24 in one bundle, that is the standard, and I use Velcro instead of cable ties, that is the standard also.
Velcro is a mess, always fills with dust plus the cabling can bust loose with gravity over time. Zip ties are the way to go. they never move, and very easy to snip it and replace it. If you're really slick you can even unlock them and reuse them. Zip ties are the way to go my friend
@@jeremypilot1015 thank you, finally someone with a little bit of brain.
Velcro's are only useful in a dynamic environment, where you are patching/unpatching regularly, otherwise, if they are static (college room is likely to remain as is for years), cable ties are best, stronger.
@@jeremypilot1015 Most reputable companies wouldn't let zip ties near cables. There are reasons that we use velcro. #1 being that most people crank down too hard on the zip ties, which will cause it to fail on a full specturm test. You have to provide tools for the lowest common denominator.
Also, you can use velcro as a cable comb to get a perfect pencil dress. It's pretty nice. Not to mention, when you line every piece of velcro up coming down the ladder rack, it looks hella clean.
I've never been in a data center or really any corporate building that has allowed the use of zip ties. Or contracts almost always specifically state velcro. But, for home jobs and stuff where it doesn't have to be perfect, I can see the use case for zip ties.
@@Oshino. Most reputable companies do not use velcro anymore. If you find yourself working for one of those places and would like to work for a larger higher paying company that does the job correctly with zip-ties. If you came near a lot of the facilities we deal with dust is a huge factor and velcro is the best at retaining dust. So they are never ever used. Zipties are the preferred method. If you read all my comments, one should fire the idiot who cranks too hard.
Most satisfying video i ever seen
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Are you going to put SFP Modules between the switches to allow for 10Gig data transfer?
Just because the switches have an SFP-Port, it doesn´t make them 10G (wich would btw need to be SFP+). The TP-Link switches don´t look like they are 10G capable, and the aljuha ones are labeled as 10/100/1000, so no 10G aswell. You don´t necisarily need 10G, for example if you were to use a CORE switch and wire up all the "aggregation" switches in a star pattern, or even dual link for port aggregation and thus 2x1G (not 2G, as a network packet can only travel through one route but multiple packets can be split across multiple routes), it´s absuletly enough bandwidht for a PC-classroom and some cameras. If they were to use a central NAS and possibly virtualization for all PCs (where the computers only display a virtual machine, as its often done in school environments) it would make sense to connect these servers to the core switch via a 10G link. But, wether 1G, 10G or 400G, uplink should always be done via SFP, either as fiber or DAC copper, as 1. the switches are optimized for this and 2. using SFP to SFP is much lower latency than regular 1/10GBaseT vie Cat5/6 and more power efficient. In most managed switches, the SFP also have more options when it comes to configuring VLANs and such.
Very great 👍
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It would be interesting to hear what someone with 50% initial cable installation and 50% long term cable maintenance experience would prefer.
The installation guys are always cursed.
Good job 👏 👍
Anyone notice : Washroom Camera @8:34. First the typo and when are you allowed to install cameras in the washroom? Maybe camera to the washroom coridor...
Yes of course camera in the coridore of washroom if we are right on patch panels that's gone bigger
for small and remembering we write WC
and thank you for correcting
resmen sanatsal bir çalışma yapılmış. :)) really really gooood job
I love it. Looks very clean and manageable
Manageable? Are you kidding? I must assume that you have never worked professionally in networking.
Très excellent travail💯
Merci infiniment
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je vous en prie,vraiment j'aime apprendre avec vous.j'aurai stage cette année est ce que pouvez-vous m'accepter de venir le faire avec vous?
Why didn't use raised floor for your cabinet and cables? It will nicer your server room.
Cost, probably. Access flooring is very expensive.
very nice job❤
Looked not bad, until I seen the TP-Link switches
Also why have the cables run on the ground? I use a cable ladder, run them up the wall then down into the rack from the top. Trip hazard and less chance of damage from people walking on the cables, dropping stuff the cables or damage when using a ladder to access the ceiling for maintenance. Oh, and man those cables look thick!
And all cables run in cable try but in the server room we are put it in the floor because this type of cable is cat 6 A
this cable is heavyweight its difficult to manage in server from top for we put on the floor and also we are discuss With client on that issue i hope u answer the question 🥺
@@naturefuturetech you did your best... neat work good job
very few people like to finish their job with such beauty of cable management.
Mis respetos a estos guerreros.
Nice cabling work but using TP-Link switch ..
Well done, have Project Managed installs like this several times and the client still resents paying the invoice
great cable management, and I know this was 2 years ago, and beyond the fact, but:
two bugaboos for me:
you used Zip ties on your trunk cabling,, which can smash the cables and cause problems down the line.Velcro ties would have actually been better, as they wont do this.
was not comfortable with bundles of trunk cable bundles running along the floor behind
the racks. techs who will eventually need to work behind the racks, could step on them, this repeatedly happening over years, can also cause conductor damage/failure. also could be a trip hazard. would have been better to run them up the wall and into the top of the racks. just a few friendly pointers, no hate intended. 😀
Thanks for your comment first of all bro this is a cat 6A utp shnider cable it is too hard to handle with velcro even if we use velcro as you after 1 year its gone lose that's why we use zip tai
2nd think you are right we have put cable on wall or in cable manager but we decided that put cable on floor and then make aluminum box wich is not a good idea thanks for your suggestions 🌹
i love it dood
keep uploading videos like this
Valo ginish
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Trabalho bonito, apenas o uso de abraçadeiras de nylon, não é correto, pois o correto é o uso de velcro. Contudo Parabéns
Очень интересно было посмотреть 👍 всегда интересовался таким ,как это делается.
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Very neat looking. Are you leaving an extra 1/3 of space between cable management and the patch panel because the patch cords are thick and stiff? I personally like the deeper cable manage arms so that the bend radius on the patch cord is less tight. The deeper management allows more storage space but you do need to recess the vertical rails a bit to allow the doors to close properly.
And for leaving extra 1/3 space between cable management .
in last comment i told you sir this cable type is cat 6A this cable is bigger and harder then cat 6 normal for that we are leaving spaces now we can door close but if we are not leave space in patch panels we not can close the door
7:18 When you have too much IT in your head: "1ST FLOOR CLASS ROM ... WASHROM" :D
For wires. There is a comb
Very nice job guys ♥ when I watching this video, I was must to do cable management in my room too and I satisfied with my work 😊 thank you for motivation ♥
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I see a few comments to move the switches closer to the patch panels. From my experience, adding switches and patch panels is best done with patch panels at the top and devices installed, starting at the bottom. The dressing of the patch cables and maintenance is easier with the shorter or upper device patch cables being on top of longer ones as devices are added.
Thanks for advice next time we will do same as you suggestion
but you don't say why ? my experience is that sandwitch are better, you can use 15cm patch cable you can see in an instant where thing are connected. instead of following a 3m cable inside a 25 cable mess. if you need more stuff later, add a layer of 24patch/48switch/24patch and 48 patch cable
@@naturefuturetech He doesn't have a clue WTF he is talking about.
Shit way of doing it - long runs of patch cables -
PATCH PANEL
SWITCH
PATCH PANEL
SWITCH
That's pretty. Planning for the win.
nice installation. i assume all the net jacks were tested before the patch cables connection. i've seen a lot of cable management solutions, only a few are both easy enough and practical. these seem good enough. don;t bother trying to make it look perfect, it doesn't matter, you should go for nice looking but most important, practical. minimize zip-ties were it matters and replace them (well not now) with velcro.
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Pardon me... But on this kind of project. Velcro is not suitable option. For a longer cable like this, its more suitable for you to using zip tie and for a shorter cable, velcro tape is the option. Zip tie can hold as many cable you and last longer but velcro cant last longer
Those zip ties are not over pressured so they are fine. These ties are not supporting a verticle drop where they are actually supporting the weight of the entire cable bundle, these are mainly use to bundle the cables to hold for organization and aesthetics. Very, very little strain on cable bundles so forget velcro. Most techs doing these large installs are usually equip with the multi port testers, where they plug a detector into each port usually 24 or so at a time and trace and test that way.
Nice work but if you use blank plate and brush plate then is looking owsome bro
What is the design capacity in kW of racks?
in server rack capacity not in KW its by U and this server rack is 42 U and also this is the capacity of rack 42 U
@@naturefuturetech ... but a server rack is designed with KW as standard. regardless of how many servers or what the servers do.
Most probably it is 32 amps or approximately 7kw
@@mellow_cake2020 well 32A of what? Amps is not power, 32A at 12v when using DC supplied servers would be 400W, where a 3 phase, 400V supply here in europe delivers 40.000W. How much power you can put in your rack is always defined by the enviroment parameters, like air conditioning, ventilation, ambient temperature, and even the thermal transfer of the room.
@@paradieshenne in Europe most data centers i read about are 32a @ 220v ie single phase.
or am i not getting the point you are trying to make?
regards
Nicely done 🙂
Wtf. That is amazing.
Хороший монтаж, но все же я бы предпочел использовать липкие хомуты вместо одноразовых - с ними проще, т.к. данная монтажная схема скорее всего потеряет актуальность уже через года наверняка нужно будет добавить еще пару десятков пользователей.
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Hi … i am also a network engineer from pakistan
The biggest mistake is that they had such long runs to the switches. 10cm cables with no cable tidies. No brainer is much more neater and easier to manage then this zip tied long runs. What do you do if you have a faulty cable? Such a ball ache to trace
Haha, look at this pitiful cable management!!111
**takes a look behind his computer desk and cries**
Very nice! 😎😊
As a 25 year master telecommunications technician. This is not impressive AT ALL. Not even close.
I agree. Zipties and cat cable a big no no.