The fact that people are overlooking this is hilarious. Yuta is HUMBLE. The only proof we have of Hakari being stronger is Yuta saying so. (Maki Quickly Debunked this) I firmly believe Yuta is much closer to Gojo’s level than He is to Hakari
I disagree, but I can also see how it’s contentious. I’d personally give the edge to hakari, because in jjk mindsets and mindset related amps r extremely strong. This is under the assumption that Yuta would be lying to people just because he’s humble. Even though no one knows Yuta more than himself, and what he says should be at least taken mostly serious, even if maki tries to debunk it (there’s no proof that she’s met hakari before, and she has been under the impression that Yuta is second only to gojo as most people are). Uraume makes the distinction that hakari isn’t like modern day sorcerers because of his mindset, something that 2 of the stronger old sorcerers say the opposite about with Yuta. Where Yuta is more calculated and varied in terms of abilities, Hakari is more brash and straight forward. When in Jackpot, Yuta really doesn’t have anything except domain expansion to deal with him since Hakari should be faster and stronger in general. Even during his 5 min w awakens rika, he shouldn’t be able to overpower Hakari with anything. Hakari is quicker to the draw than Yuta. He’s also just the superior hand to hand fighter in general. Yuta would have to stay at a distance, but the speed difference should probably be big since Yuta is slower than naobito and it’s more than likely that kashimo is faster, so hakari should be faster, if not relative. Just my thoughts, I got more but I’m not gonna go thru my full thoughts here yet.
@@bromous1446 hakari doesn’t get any stat boosts from jackpot😭 he jus has unlimited CE n auto regen. N Hakari isn’t faster than yuta, yuta literally speed blitzed Kenjaku. Saying yuta is slower than naobito doesn’t add much, his whole CT is about speed and accuracy so it makes sense LMAO even now sukuna calls Yuta “the main dish”, not to mention gojo said Yuta has more CE than him so it won’t be easy to gas him out.
@@Mownees Obviously Hakari’s Jackpot gives him stat increases. He’s literally being overwhelmed and blitzed by Kashimo in his domain, then in jackpot he is relative and at times faster. That’s literally just factual. Base Kashimo landed a hit on a Sukuna who was fast enough to dodge MBA attacks. A stronger Sukuna than the one that perception blitzed Ryu. Using current scaling means nothing since they had a month to train and are showing very little feats so far. I’m talking pre training period, because anything current is headcannon and assumptions because we don’t know their current powers. Yuta scaled upwards slightly from Ryu in speed, if not relativity, and he got perception blitzed by a weaker Sukuna than the one that base Kashimo isn’t getting perception blitzed by. Also putting Yuta below naobito does matter when hakari scales up from naobito since naobito is only slightly faster at best than Jogo, and he couldn’t land a single hit on 15f Sukuna either. Do the math, pre training, Yuta has nothing to deal with jackpot hakari.
Let's be consistent. Hakari fans using Megumi as a way to affirm Yuta's statement about Hakari being stronger than him is truly laughable when they reject Maki's statement for exactly the same reason why they should reject Megumi's, especially when Megumi literally showed that he's capable of having an bias opinion based on chapter 10, where he states that Yuta is the only one who he sincerely respects and this argument gets supported by the fact Megumi says the following: "All the senpai say he's a good for nothing but Okkotsu senpai says Hakari's stronger than him", so Megumi ignores the majority of opinions in favor of Yuta? Who would've thought. Everything else is also debunkable pretty easily but I just say this, Sendai Yuta has better feats.
If we are talking about pre time skip than this is a wash, Hakari was speedblitzing Kashimo in chapter 188 and 189 while Yuta struggled against Ryu in chapter 180 Currently they are equal via Gojo’s statement
@@guilha1506 Yeah, Hakari getting washed. Hakari struggled throughout his fight against Kashimo just like how Yuta struggled at Sendai while holding back. If you call 188 a speed blitz then from your own perspective what Yuta did to Ryu at chapter 180 is also a speed blitz. Pre time skip jackpot Hakari is equal or slightly stronger than base Yuta and Yuta with fully manifested Rika undoubtedly outscales.
@@Azathoth0 Hakari only struggled against Kashimo in two instances, once his jackpot ended and he got almost killed and when Kashimo used all of his cursed energy to blow him. In every single part of the fight Hakari was either not going all out and taking hits careless because he could regenerate, or he was fighting all out and speedblitzing Kashimo Evidence for that is that at the end of chapter 188 Hakari gets faster (stated by Kashimo) and hits Kashimo numerous times before he could react, then he disappears from Kashimo’s sight when Kashimo attacks and pins him into the ground and attacks him even more. In chapter 189 Kashimo is also punched multiple times underwater before he can react. Nothing that Yuta ever did comes close to speedblitzing Ryu. And Ryu is an inferior opponent to Kashimo since Kenjaku considers that old dying Kashimo would be a challenge to prime Ryu. Jackpot Hakari absolutely no diffs base Yuta, okkotsu without full manifestation is relative in speed to Yuji and a roach and gets overwhelmed by Uro and Ryu without any difficult. Base Yuta is hot garbage, idk why people overrate this form of him
sendai yuta does not have better feats, it was a ffa. Yuta has only won fights thanks to others helping him out. Uro giving him access to Sky Manipulation against Ryu,m Takaba distracting Kenjaku, now hes jumping with yuji and prob maki against sukuna. Hakari gaps yuta hard when it comes to feats.
@@guilha1506 Correct he struggled, in fact he got completely unmatched in base (Yuta and Ryu could never). Let's be consistent. Base Hakari needed to redo a one consecutive effect sequence twice because he was getting too much damage, Kashimo also shown to be relative to jackpot Hakari as he matched him with speed and strength. Hakari himself also acknowledged the danger of Kashimo's built up lightning strike. I didn't deny the speed blitz feat and Kashimo's statement isn't necessary. In chapter 189 Kashimo was very close to Hakari and so he's been caught off guard and you can read the text and see that he was lost in thought, that isn't a good presentation. If you were consistent then you would agree that what Hakari showed in chapter 188 would also correspond to what Yuta has shown in chapter 180, you have no reason to not accept that as those two did the same thing. Ryu is only slightly weaker overall than Kashimo, not to mention he's much more superior to Kashimo in certain aspects. That's actually a supporting argument for Ryu simply because Kashimo has been challenging people to try and go all out, yet because Kenjaku isn't fit for fighting in his current body he thought Ryu could fill that role, and we know that because Kashimo directly sought out opponents and by the fact he finally accepted Kenjaku's offer just to fight Sukuna. Jackpot Hakari is more relative to base Yuta than you think, we can see that by their feats pretty clearly. Yuta without Rika is faster than Yuji, same Yuji who had no problem keeping up with awakened Maki. Regarding Kurourushi, Yuta just wanted to get him off guard for his plan to be executed which is to kill Kurourushi through the shortest route to the brain. Yuta got heavily targetted in the early stages when in base by two elite sorceres with an DE, yet he still fought both of them and tanked a granite blast that destroyed city blocks. And he fought Ryu in close quarters combat with his high output. Here's a question for you. What's your evidence that allows you to put old Kashimo below reincarnated Kashimo.
@@jpnoir4807 ppl underestimate him so much. His record is 30 in a row, that’s literally more than Gojo’s record to my knowledge. If I’m not mistaken he caps at 5 domains a day. He also has better RCT than him and with RCT he lasted minutes in sukuna’s domain.
@@tiongdoraemon5771 I misread, he’s never been past 30spins to get a jackpot, his record is unknown, but he can technically do it infinitely since eventually he is guaranteed a Jackpot if he spins out of increased probability or quick spins mode, and goes back to normal where he is guaranteed one on the rainbow door or 4th spin of normal mode.
@@ShowtimeLawyuta’s bag is really good against hakari. He got good defense(sky manipulation) and cursed speech which he could use to stop hakari and slice his head off. Also yuta could have a lot more in his bag that we don’t know about
@blazen9958 we've never seen cursed speech cut someone's head off, also the rest of Yuta's bag is headcanon until he uses it. His bag isn't deep enough AS OF NOW to beat Hakari
@@ShowtimeLaw I’m not saying cursed speech does that what I’m saying is that yuta can tell hakari to stop and then cut his head off with his sword. Sure a lot of yuta’s bag hasn’t been unveiled yet but we just need to wait till the next couple of chapters to see it
@@princegodar3995 broski im talking about events after kashimo vs sukuna. they made plans in case he lost and the plan was for hakari to take on uraume, takaba to take on kenjaku, and yuji/higuruma/kusakabe/ino to hold sukuna off until yuta can return from finishing kenjaku
@@vism2812hakari is only combating uraume to have them not interfere with the battle that had taken place between Kashimo and sukuna, none of this indicates their plan is for hakari to specifically combat uraume, hakari simply came up to uraume and told them he made a promise to not let anyone get in the way of Kashimo’s fight, which is what we have to go with, as nothing explicitly contradicts that
@@vism2812 Broski forgot that uraume alone was enough to stop all of these fighters before no dif. Uraume is extremely strong and if he was in the fight with Sukuna they’d win no dif. Also because Kashimo was fighting Sukuna while Hakari was targeting uraume, what’s he gonna do just leave his fight with uraume to go fight Sukuna? Also Yuta snuck Kenjaku, it’s not a testament to his strength, and by that it would be better to have a heavy hitter in the field with Sukuna as opposed to none, and hakari’s hands were full. Like this is such a nonpoint
Base yuta and jackpot hakari are very close in my opinion base yuta can box him up it’s just that he lacks the attack power to get through that healing. Maybe cut an arm off before jackpot ends and he could potentially win in base.
@@ricky6151 i would say it like kashimo vs jp hakari. Base Yuta alone doesnt overpower him but he has partially rika. For me it depends on hakari getting past yutas 5 min and how deadly yutas de is.
Yuta shouldn’t be anywhere but relative to Jackpot hakari with his highest amps. Base yuta isn’t close to jackpot hakari. Yuta is a sorcerer, and in jujutsu high the rankings in speed would be Gojo then naobito. Whenever Yuta goes, it’d be below that. Hakari isn’t a sorcerer anymore since he got expelled so he was obviously left out of this pool, but it more than likely that Kashimo is faster than naobito, do not relative, so Hakari would be as well. Yuta has to beat hakari between jackpots because he has nothing to use on jackpot hakari except ranged abilities (not cursed speech).
@@ricky6151 bro he could easily pull out some one shot hax from come curse technique he copied. Hakari will lose most of the time in this no matter what. How would hakari defend with auto rct against, Yuta, Rika, and whatever the sure hit for yuta's domain is in.
The statement for Yuta saying “Unusual Abilities” is still heavily leaning towards strength. Unusual abilities is basically the same as Supernatural Abilities and that would obviously translate to Jujutsu. Jujutsu Kaisen is even called a Supernatural Battle Manga. The statement is basically saying Yuta’s abilities as a sorcerer is only second to Gojo. So basically the second strongest. Also it can’t be talent because Higiruma was confirmed to have taken equal to Gojo, meaning Yuta can’t be second in that. So Yuta WOULD be the second strongest by that statement regardless of translation.
I mean the fact that he didnt just stay 2nd strongest implies thats not what it is or at best hes being purposuly ambiguous. He could litterally just be calling them strage. Gojo has one of a kind reincarnating super eyes that make him practically unbeatable in their society and yuta has unanturally high amounts of energy and has a technique channeled through and exorcised cursed spirit that somehow turned into a shikigami. Like everyone else is just using normal cursed techniques besides yuji their power they were born with are just fundmentally strange
Yuta would be the second strongest sorcerer in the modern era in any translation. Hakari isn’t a sorcerer tho, he was suspended and hasn’t been given a grade. Nothing implies that he is a sorcerer either, just that he’s strong and on par with Yuta. The same concept as Toji being stronger/faster/superior to 90% of jujutsu society, but he was never given a grade because he wasn’t able to become a sorcerer. Base Kashimo should be faster than naobito since naobito is relative to slightly faster than Jogo and he couldn’t touch 15f Sukuna, yet base kashimo hit 20f Sukuna who could avoid multiple attacks from MBA kashimo, meaning that at the bare minimum he isn’t being blitzed in base against this 20f Sukuna. Since Hakari isn’t technically a sorcerer, that falls in line with the continuity that naobito is the second fastest sorcerer, and Yuta has been a sorcerer since the beginning so he is included in that pool. As far as strength, idk how they’d scale against each other, all ik is that Yuta can’t rlly do anything to a Jackpot hakari in terms of hax past just using sky manipulation defensively. It depends on who can outlast the other, and hakari’s record for domains in a row is 30, so that’s at peak performance a 130ish minutes that he can’t be beat by Yuta, with breaks in between that Yuta can beat him.
About your arguiment about yuta not being the 2nd in terms of "talent" is because of higuruma being stated to be equal potential to gojo is kinda dumb since the statement about higuruma being equal to gojo in potential was like 2 chapters ago while the statement about yuta being 2nd to gojo was like early culling games arc.
8 minutes wouldn't be enough to take out Yuta. Kashimo lasted 2 full rounds, on top of whatever time was left over from the jackpot against Charles. So looking at Kashimo lasting at least 9min showing no real visual damage, and not showing any signs of being low on CE until Hakari dropped him in the water. Yuta who's much more CE than Kashimo, is more durable than Kashimo, has Rika turning it into a 2v1 , who can also refill Yutas CE if he gets low. Yutas not getting killed by just punches and kicks. Hakari needs to show a high output attack like being able to discharge CE like Yuta & Ryu to have a real chance of beating Yuta.
I don’t know why people seem to think Yuta’s weakness is a drawn out battle, he has the 2nd most CE in the verse and can get it replenished. Kashimo went multiple rounds of JP and the only reason he ran out of CE was because of the water, there’s no reason for Yuta who has wayyy more and can refill it, to not go more than one round of JP. When you look at the damage Kashimo took it is basically just bruise and nosebleed level, Yuta who can tank granite blasts with his bare hands would not need to use RCT against the level of attacks Hakari dishes out. I honestly don’t even know what Hakari can do to base Yuta, he doesn’t have the AP to do any serious damage and there’s nothing stopping Yuta from doing Hakari like he did Kenjaku and Geto the instant his JP run out. Kashino landed a lighting strike on his stomach when it ran out, if it hit his head it would have been over.
Kashimo is also on a different tier than Ryu though. Not to mention that Ryu’s blasts were just basic cursed energy, with no attribute attributed to it. Kashimo’s lighting is literal plasma, it’s significantly stronger even if it has a weaker output. Kashimo was also defending against internal damage casually, and nothing Hakari was doing was being done with a weapon. All he does is punch and as of yet we haven’t seen any fighters punch with enough force to destroy an opponent except Sukuna, gojo, or Yuki. Still tho, Yuta is slower than naobito since 2 arm naobito is the second fastest sorcerer. Kashimo is more than likely faster than naobito, but if not relative, and by proxy so too is Hakari. Base Yuta and partially manifested rika amped Yuta are not matching Hakari in physical ability when he’s in jackpot. He’s probably relative with fully manifested rika. Ryu also blocked rika’s blast with his hand, so clearly that’s not taking off hakari’s head even if he somehow gets the shot off when Hakari is as fast or faster. Also nothing is known about yuta’s domain, but there is a bit known about hakari’s. It’s the center of his fighting style, it can be casted as fast as mahito’s, and it is good in tug of wars. More than likely he is beating yuta’s domain in a tug of war. When in jackpot none of yuta’s arsenal past rika’s strength will be useful since cursed speech can be defended with CE, and infinite is more than very large. Sky manipulation can be avoided since Hakari is faster, maybe not completely ignored, but he can find a way around it because of his speed, so that would be his best bet on the defensive. None of his other techniques would even come close to useful though. When in Jackpot, Hakari outstats, but in between he is very vulnerable. It all comes down to who can make those split second decisions because regardless of if Hakari can do the same amount of damage as Ryu or not, he should be physically stronger and definitely physically faster so he can do more damage in hand to hand than Ryu.
@@kylemma33 Literally doesn’t tho, it just shows Yuta’s domain against a Sukuna who can’t use his own to clash with it, and he still needs yuji to finish this Sukuna off. It never states or shows Yuta’s superiority, Hakari’s inferiority, or anything of the sort. All it shows is that yuta is strong which no one was denying in the first place. Hakari as of now and until there is a concrete reason to believe such, is relative to Yuta at each of their respective full powers.
I mean They sent yuta to fight sukuna So that right there is everything you need to know. Plus during the strategy, all the sorcery said Yuta is their trump card. Not hakari.
Hikari getting no stat buff from the infinite energy of jackpot seems like clear headcannon. Its pretty clear narratively that yuta is overall stronger than hikari, but hikari is stronger specifically in jackpot.
Not saying he doesn’t, just that he doesn’t get a FURTHER buff if he hits another one, but there is obviously a stat buff from jackpot, sorry if that was unclear
It means Jackpot Hakari is stronger than Base Yuta Maki denied the statement made by Yuta about Hakari being stronger. This means Yuta with Fully Manifested Rika is stronger than Jackpot Hakari
@@dynamis1720I would disagree with that last part, not because I don't believe it's possible, but because I don't agree with taking Maki's evaluation of his strength more serious than his own. Plus, it's not like Yuta forgot Rika exists. I don't know why one would consider Rika and the ring, while the other didn't
@@dynamis1720 no that doesn’t mean that. Hakari with jackpot destroys base Yuta in every single way so there wouldn’t be an argument. Bad Yuta can’t even use his copy ct, or a domsin so the only argument would be against Yuta at his best
I'll be honest Yuta is stated to not care about himself and is uninterested in himself he constantly calls others amazing and doesn't care for himself so his statement shouldn't be taken as valid
that why I calll Yuta fans totally dellusional Have you seen sukuna using any attack on Yuta yet ?? he is just taking all the hits from him then crazy Yuta fans come outta nowhere and start chirping that Yuta is 1v1ing with sukuna and is able to land some hits on him ... If Sukuna uses his dimentional slash or pops out his domain or even gets his rct back Yuta will be wiped out of existance Yuta himself confirmed that in rescent chapter while hakari with jackpot will be able to survive all that
@@imtragon9228 sukuna says himself in the latest chapter that he can’t use the world slash while maintaining hollow wicker basket. It’s not that Sukuna doesn’t want to do it it’s that Yuta isn’t allowing him too. And yes Sukuna has been attacking Yuta, you see him slashing at them and Yuta using RCT all throughout the chapter. My comment wasn’t meant to be taken seriously but if you wanna be serious at least tell the damn truth, you’re straight lying to push your agenda.
The statements are just saying: 1) Hakari can possibly beat Yuta. 2) Yuta's abilities/techniques are the strongest. Maki disagreeing with Yuta doesn't say much because she's biased. Megumi is coming from a place of witnessing both of them and gauging their abilities. He's not shown to favor either. That being said, they're relative according to Gojo, who's extremely insightful when it comes to the potential of sorcerors. I don't think one has to be stronger.
I thought it was kind of obvious. Was everyone at ease when hakari showed up on the battlefield? Did he go to fight sakuna after beating kenjaku? Or is he off fighting a sidekick? Yuta is second only to gojo at that time, and around that time is when yuta said hakari on a roll could beat him. After the time skip yuta is obviously the main and gojo said he would supass him. Also given any short amount of time yuta has proven to grow more than anyone, I'm excited to see what his training did.
If Kashimo lasted 4 domain expansions without a cursed technique and purely off of cursed energy manipulation (special properties, reinforcement) give him the 2nd HIGHEST CE AMOUNT IN THE MANGA, REVERSE CURSE TECHNIQUE, SPECIAL GRADE CURSED SPIRIT (stronger than you btw) in exchange for losing those special CE properties. Yuta is not lasting only 2 domain expansions his base will carry him many rounds.
Yuta also has probably the “best” CE reinforcement, as he was straight up catching Granite Blast that have the highest output in the series. And Ryu straight up said “Damn he’s tough as hell” in hand to hand combat.
Hakari is basically impossible to scale outside of the top 3/4 characters. His matchups are legitimately luck-dependent. If Hakari gets >/=3 Jackpots, he wins. If he doesn't, he loses.
Wait the Yuta statement let's not forget he had 35 points before the fight with Uro and Ryu and he fought the cockroach curse even before them so I don't think we can say he run out of curse energy because of the Ryu right when he's been fighting even before that so he fought 7-8 people or curses before going to Uro and Ryu and still held his own
I think hakari against ppl stronger than him is either a tie or hakari wins cause he makes it a battle of attrition and since his jackpot is almost guaranteed within the gimmicks of his domain he is in every fight an infinitely regenerating power house of a berserker
By now yuta has gained granate blast and sky manipulation as well. Plus he's got a whole load of other cursed tools and techniques. Yuta also HIMSELF not with Rika HIMSELF has said to posses boundless cursed energy. Rika herself has an independent supply of cursed energy which at bare minimum is on par with yuta or even be considered unlimited similar to hakaris Jackpot.
Yuta stamina is heavily underrated he has more cursed energy than gojo and feels near bottomless while in base in a 1v1 fight i really dont see him running out of stamina quickily kashimo someone who we can assume has less cursed energy than yuta was able to last multiple rounds against hakari but even if he does run low he can call on rika and her stated boundless cursed energy to refill himself the only reason yuta was pushed to his limits in sendai is because he was forced to fight against multiple special grade lvl fighters
And out lasting yuta is really hakari only win condition because what else can he do against yuta to defeat him all he can do is use punches and kicks and yuta was stated by ryu to have an tough defense and he has the highest output in history even with his punches he still had a tough time damaging yuta
@@1hundred1 Yuta also massively held back against Ryu, Ryu himself even fronts this. 'Without that rule, you'd have killed us.' Killing someone is way easier than subduing them.
@@yutaoGOATsu236 No he didn't man. He literally had Yuta coughing up blood when they clashed their backs & it was stated that a singular punch from Ryu was too much for even a fully manifested Rika to withstand. Yuta was able to block some of Ryu's punches in the initial exchange, but Gege made it quite clear in the following pages that Yuta can't keep up with Ryu in raw h2h with Ryu comboing Yuta across buildings
"Unusual Abilities" in that context can only refer Jujutsu in general. In their world Jujutsu is Unusual Abilities. If anyone else has an idea of what they meant by "Unusual Abilities" I'd love to hear it but I do think that's the correct line of thinking
Ppl forget that in jackpot hakari outstats yuta in at least speed, and at most every stat but dura. Extreme dif fight either way, but yuta’s only chance of winning is between hakari’s jackpots.
I hate that people spin the shit out of Yuta's statement to use it as an argument that Hikari is stronger. He's not. Yuta was being modest. He's known to underestimate himself. I get that you like Hikari because he's cool, but he is not and will never be stronger than Yuta. Yuta is frankly just a bad match up for Hikari one on one. He has enough power to find a way to take him out even whilst Hikari is being healed by RCT and even if he didn't, he has a large enough cursed energy pool to last in a battle of attrition until Hikari runs out of jackpots. And offensively there just isn't much Hikari can do to challenge Yuta. Even his attacks against Kashimo were ineffective until Kashimo ran out of cursed energy. And Yuta has a lot more cursed energy than Kashimo.
How is this even a question? Yuta is superior by every conceivable metric: technique, overall CE, feats, narrative statements. People who are delusional enough to even entertain the idea Hakari is stronger, base their entire coping theory on a single quote from Yuta (he said that when Hakari is on a roll, he can be even stronger than him). Those same people convenientely forget the fact that Yuta is famous for being overly kind and humble, and that in the very same panel where he tries to say Hakari is stronger, Maki immediately contradicts him and say "that's not true" (which very much sounds like Gege telling the readers how things actually stand). - Yuta is a Special grade. Hakari isn't. - Yuta has been repeatedly described as the second strongest sorcerer after Gojo. Hakari hasn't. - Yuta has monstrous levels of CE (even above Gojo). Hakari needs a whole domain expansion to have high CE (and that's only temporary). - Yuta has access to a ridiculously wide arsenal of techniques (even surpassing Kenjaku and Sukuna, in terms of sheer versatility). Hakari is literally a one-trick-pony who can only kick and punch. - Yuta has complete mastery of RCT, and can even use it to heal others, or to attack cursed spirits. Hakari can't even use RCT unless he hits a jackpot. - Yuta has defeated 3 Heian Era sorcers + a special grade curse sprit, in a single go. A feat that Hakari hasn't come even remotely close to matching. - Yuta has put Geto on a shirt, when he was just a first year student. - Yuta has Rika, who is a monster in her own right. Even in her unreleased form, she's strong enough to demolish bridges with a single punch and completely immobilize the likes of Yuji (who's one of the physically strongest characters in the entire verse). And in her released form, not only does she get even stronger, but she also instantly replenishes Yuta's immense CE pool. No, Hakari isn't stronger than Yuta. Hakari can't even hold a candle to Yuta. Here's how a fight between them would go: Hakari: jackpot! Yuta: dOn'T mOvE. Hakari: *gets beheaded.
With the heavy hitters statement, the translation meant that Yuta would be the first one on the Frontline if Gojo loses.also Hakari's domain isn't 0.2 it's faster than that , and is known to be exceptionally strong in domain wars. Hakari seems to fight these lethal fighters because of his abilities , Yuta wouldn't survive the headshot from Kashimo but from what we have seen these 2 are relative they're always compared to each other
Yuta wouldn’t even get to that point to where hakari was that’s a terrible example. Also Kashimo literally chose to have fun in that fight he said it himself that he could just time hakari out but that would be boring
The only thing supporting Hakari is Yuta's statement, but that statement has a LOT of problems with it. This is gonna be a long comment. 1. "When he's on a roll" is a surprisingly pointless statement. Being on a Roll means landing continuous Jackpots, not the state of Jackpot itself. If we assume that Yuta is either unable or unwilling to kill Hakari in Jackpot, than Yuta's only win con is to wait for Jackpot to end so he can knock him unconscious or something. This win con would never happen if Hakari never runs out/ is on a roll. 2. How TF would Yuta know this? In order for Yuta to know what he's talking about, he would need to have actually fought Hakari. When could this have happened? If this happened before the end of jjk 0, than we can completely ignore it from a powerscaling perspective. We can also ignore it If this happened less than 3 months after the end of vol 0. Yuta's been overseas for a while by the start of June, I'll guesstimate and say at least 3 months. Yuta wouldn't have had any opportunity to fight Hakari since he returned. By this logic, Yuta never had any opportunity to fight Hakari at a point that matters, so we can assume that any Information Yuta has is completely worthless. 3. What does Yuta mean by "stronger"? Is it just raw physical power? Does he mean stronger than Base Yuta, or Yuta with the ring? Is Rika included in this? 4. How much does Yuta actually mean what he's saying? He's specifically trying to make the case for why Yuji and Megumi should try and recruit Hakari. 5. Why does Maki disagree? Why would gege write this in if not to make it clear that Yuta's words are debatable?
yuta “stamina” disadvantage doesn’t make sense. Gojo himself said Yuta has a bigger CE pool than him. So I doubt 2 jackpots could wear him out. N Rika gives him unlimited CE so if he were to get close to running out, he could stack on the CE that rika would give him. Not to mention he has multiple special grade cursed weapons in his arsenal😭
8:10 I agree with you but another interpretation could be that Yutas Mimicry is the second most powerful CT behind Limitless + Sox Eyes and The Comedian which is said to rival/equal each other In spite of this, I’d still say Angel and Megumis CT are stronger or relative to mimicry, Curse Spirit Manipulation is also in the same tier
@@yaboiplank6764 The thing about that is that it states: He became KNOWN as the second fastest. You could interpret it as by reputation he is the second fastest, but in actuality he is not. Or maybe they just got stronger since then
I think a large assumption when discussing the topics like this is that the characters in the story have a perfect understanding of each other's relative strength. The problem with this is that it is shown in the story that they don't always do. So any statement about strength, however definitive it may sound, does not necessarily reflect their actual ranking. Additionally, we have also seen that in this manga it is not so much about " dragonball style" powerlevel. Some characters have abilities that mitigate those of others, or weaknesses that can be exploited with the right opposing abilities. Because of this a situation can occur where A>B and B>C. Yet at the same time C>A. Then there are also circumstances. Some characters are much stronger when certain conditions are met. Like preparation, location, or the possession of certain items. All of this meaning that any ranking you come up with will be flawed unless it only reflects the general perception of strength.
I appreciate you actually going over if Hakari down hit Jackpot. People assume Hakari is gonna hit it but it’s not guaranteed every time and no matter what interpretation Hakari even being relative to Yuta is dependent on him being in jackpot mode. The way I always interpret the statements to make sense is that Yuta said Hakari on a roll is stronger that him he never said he was stronger than him and Rika. I think that interpretation could make some sense considering at that point in JJK Yuta hadn’t fully manifested Rika again sense Vol. 0. Yuta is more consistently stronger and Hakari’s win con is entirely dependent on outlasting him. I think Yuta doesn’t have to fully manifest Rika to combat Hakari’s first jackpot. Hakari doesn’t have any big moves he has hand to hand so he’ll definitely be beating Yuta up but he won’t be forcing Yuta to use RCT nearly as much as he did in Sendai where he was getting DBZ ki blasts fired at him on one side and a spatially distorted fist punching him on the other.
Nah he is gonna hit a jackpot eventually. And once he gets one he's likely to hit more. Jackpot Hakari should be considered his base because that's the essence of his curse technique.
@@staticshockaa7222 Jackpot is a product of him using Domain Expansion and getting the best possible outcome of it. He doesn’t even get that outcome every time he opens domain and if he doesn’t he’ll have CT burnout and have a cool down. Whole point being it’s not his base. Not even close his domain is the true essence of his CT but he can’t access it whenever he wants and if he doesn’t land it first try then he’ll become vulnerable because he doesn’t scale to any version of Yuta without it.
@@datboimazz his curse technique is his domain you guys get this wrong all the time. Just like Higuruma curse technique is his domain. Base Higiruma is curse technique Higuruma, he is gonna put you in a domain because that is his technique. This is like saying Gojo without limitless is his base. Nah its a technique inherit to the character. Hakari is going to hit a jackpot because the house is rigged and the rules in his favor because again it is his technique
@@staticshockaa7222 Your logic here is awful. We see Higaruma fight in base against Sukuna with his hammer. Then we saw him go back to base after he used his domain only difference being he had the executioner sword. We also saw Hakari fight multiple times without his Jackpot state or DE. The form of Hakari that Yuji was tanking punches from is his base he also doesn’t need to activate his Domain to use his CT we saw him use his CT without his domain but regardless using your logic Base Yuta is Yuta with Rika out because Rika is his CT or stores his copy CT. so it’s just semantics at this point. The point is that Hakari without his Domain is not on the same level as Yuta without his ring on.🤷🏾♂️
Hakari isnt exactly crazy strong, he’s just immortal so can counter WAY faster than an enemy anticipates. The problem is the story doesnt let him run out of domain after 4 mins like he’s supposed to, he will always jackpot 20x until the fights over or plot decides he needs to die
No, hakari is NOT stronger than Yuta. I don't even know how this became a debate. Yuta didn't even say hakari was stronger than him. And it was clear that Yuta was being modest about hakari because hakari was his senpai. We've seen hakari at his best and even with jackpot, he only won against kashimo because he used the water. If he didn't use the water, he'd have lost. And kashimo didn't even use his cursed technique to push him to the limit. Yuta is second to Gojo in the modern era. I like how power scalers prefer head cannon to the author's statements.
You say this as if it’s a given that Yuta is stronger than Kashimo…. And it’s definitely not. Kashimo would breeze through Sendai easier than Yuta did and JP Hakari had a great showing against Kashimo. Kashimo has a line of scaling putting him above Yuta, that being ryu. Ryu got perception blitzed by pre bath 15f Meguna, and he was giving Yuta a high/extreme dif h2h fight. Kashimo on the other hand was pressing 20f Meguna (he was weakened to be fair, but 15f was also suppressed as well so I think it’s a moot point) in h2h. So to me that says JP Hakari, who’s was relative to Kashimo In a high dif fight, (at the very least h2h wise) is indeed stronger than Yuta, who was relative to Ryu in a high diff fight ,when he’s worked up.
@@uchiharainylol no, Yuta fought 3 special grades one after the other. Two at the same time. On top of that he was not going for the kill as he wanted points.
Hakari should be 65% stronger than Yuta in terms of physical stats since his base stats are higher meaning that his Curse Energy Reinforcement would be higher, Hakari seems to have better Curse Energy Manipulation than Yuta meaning the CE Reinforcement would be higher ontop of having better physical stats. However Yuta does have the versatility given his abilities but nearly all of them wouldn't work on Hakari Sky Manipulation would be good but it wouldn't mean much to Hakari due to RCT and his general stats Druv's Technique: wouldn't mean much since it barely hurt Uro Granite Blast: i don't know if it's confirmed he has it but imma say he does. It still wouldn't mean much given the stats difference and Hakari's RCT Curse Speech: Hakari would just cover his ears with curse energy to block out Curse Speech Even with Rika i doubt they would win since Uro took a Full on Barrage from both and was still kicking heck she wanted more smoke and since Hakari ranks above her due to fighting Kashimo someone who in his old age was compared to and even hinted at to be stronger than prime Ryu the same Ryu who gave yuta trouble meaning that prime Kashimo should scale above Ryu by atleast 50% then A seemingly going all out Jackpot Hakari ragdolls and beats up Kashimo putting him atleast 15% stronger tham Kashimo The way i look at this fight is Hakari can be stronger than Yuta but not all the time he has to meet certain condition's that's why yuta said "when he's worked up he's stronger than i am" instead of saying "yeah he's stronger than me" basically Hakari has to hit 2 Jackpots to beat Yuta
I don’t think Hakari has better CE manipulation. All we know is that his Ce comes with a trait that causes it to resemble a bat with razor wire on it. Outside of that his best feats have been in jackpot where it’s impossible to tell whether his Ce manipulation is definitely better because he’s just got infinite CE. Also that’s all we’ve seen in Yuta’s duffel bag. All abilities we already knew he had. I severely doubt those abilities are all that he’s got, it would be a negligent use of mimicry if you ask me. I think Hakari can win under the right conditions, but I’d think Yuta would win more consistently.
@@Insidious-K I know about it but the feats Hakari has pulled off is INSANE like blowing the Curse Energy out of his nose WHILE HEALING HIS BRAIN 🤯 that feat is insane and I don't think Yuta ever replicated anything close to that I agree he probably has more abilities but given the fact he only had Curse Speech by Culling Games then only copied the stuff in Sendai. It seems he either rarely copies Technique's, The people or Curses he fought before weren't worth copying, He genuinely didn't get anything after zero or only got stuff in Sendai since his combatants were worth copying either way I think he probably has more abilities but I doubt it I think Yuta loses more than he wins like Hakari wins 7/10 but Yuta wins 3/10 unless Yuta goes all out off RIP I don't see him winning and even if he did I doubt he would win since if he doesn't it turns into a game of stamina which Yuta will lose since Hakari can effectively loop jackpots atleast 10 times and Hakari knows of Yuta so he already will have counters for some abilities but I do agree Hakari only wins under certain conditions
@@SilentAgression1Tillion well in Sendai Yuta never used anything we didn’t already know he had. My guess is to keep his bag a secret from spectators. All the abilities he used were ones that he’d obtained on the spot (I.E Dhruv’s shikigami and Uro’s sky manipulation) and abilities Kenjaku would already know he has (Cursed speech). As far as the fight goes, Hakari’s win condition isn’t exactly consistent. Base to base Yuta’s pretty objectively stronger than base Hakari. Hakari would need chain jackpots to win. If Hakari isn’t lucky he just flat out loses. It’s also worth noting that Yuta would have a much easier time planning around Hakari than the opposite.
The reinforcement statement is a little “far fetched”. Yuta was straight up catching Full Powered Granite casually in base. Ryu has the Highest Output in the culling games, even Sukuna had to blitz him and aim for the head to stop it. Yuta was also tanking Kurorushi, Uro, and Ryu back to back to back. Ryu also describes Yutas durability as a “water tank” so take that as you may.
From what I understand, as long as it's a death battle Hakari will keep on hitting jackpots as he did with Kashimo. So as long as gege doesn't make him unlucky, Hakari wins. Even if he doesn't get a jackpot he has his ways of keeping himself to minimum damage (either pseudo spins or some fast binding vow). The only unknown parameter that might favor Yuta is his domain expansion which we haven't seen yet.
People underestimate jackpot the domain is stacked in the favor of him hitting it once it get rolling all the bonus and stuff make the chance at hitting a 2nd one very high the only real way to kill Hikari is by immobilizing him so he can't DE and gasses out or one shotting him. Yuta might be able to do the first but I don't think he strong enough to do the 2nd
I think hakari lacks the attack power that Yuta does. If Hakari doesn't land a jackpot he's much less of a threat. Ik that the details of his domain expansion has a method for him to get around not landing a jackpot but still.
I'm personally partial to the consecutive Jackpots idea, because on a roll literally means a streak of luck, so wouldn't that mean consecutive Jackpots? When Yuta says Hakari is stronger, he may not necessarily be imagining a scenario where they're fighting each other, just that if you put them side by side on a chart, over time Hakari would preform better and be stronger than Yuta, due to his cursed energy being finite. And if you wanna be able to consider all character statements, this interpretation could mean Maki wasn't lying or praising Yuta, but she just misunderstood Yuta's condition of the statement, being Hakari is on a roll.
One major thing everyone miss in this fight. When Yuta is talked about it’s just him not Rika too. Yuta ability Yuta amount of cursed energy. Hakari is stronger than Yuta alone while he in Jackpot not Yuta and Rika. Remember the difference of Geto w/o Rika and if he would have got Rika low percent defeat Gojo to 99% chance to defeat Gojo. All RUclipsrs miss this important point I believe
Im reading the comments and alot of people are forgetting three things. 1. When gojo was sealed why didnt he mention hakari to kenjaku and only yuta. 2. Hakari has to fight Rika and yuta at the same time. And rika literally is as tough as yuta. 3. Yuta has a domain. Theres nothing stopping yuta from just waiting out the jackpot.(something kashimo did without rct multiple times) and using a domian with rika there as well. Hakari has no answer for that
He mentioned yuta because he was taunting him on who beat his ass last time. And because hakari is not working with jujutsu society so he would likely never be in contact with kenjaku unless yuta already took an L
I think yuta is right when he’s on a roll or worked up , as even if yuta is stronger which his abilities should give him a good advantage his timer is only 5mijs and hakari will just keep re rolling domain over and over and over and he’ll be in jackpot when yuta is in base and win
Not really hakari can’t do anything against sky manipulation and yuta can most definitely kill him in those 5 mins and also don’t forget it’s a 2v1 with rika helping
Hakari has advantages in a domain clash anyways so theirs a chance he just overpowers him and burns out yutas technique. And even if he cant get rid of it completely jackpot is not a sure hit. So as far we know it could still function reguardless
It's all super circumstantial imo. Like Yuta is clearly way stronger than Hikari. He's able to use other people's abilities, has insane reverse cursed technique regen, and is partnered up with probably the strongest curse spirit there is aside from Sukuna. The man is incredibly stacked with stuff like cursed speech, the orbital domains, and sky manipulation that he's picked up. And those are only the things we know he's taken. The fight is over unless Hikari IMMEDIATLY gets into Jackpot, and that's assuming Yuta can't just over power Hikari's domain in a tug of war between the two. IF Hikari gets into Jackpot though he can probably squeak out a win, but it'd still be a pretty extreme dif battle for him. I think the most important thing here is to just accept that they're both strong af. Yuta is already a Special Grade, but Hikari should also be considered one at this point in time due to the absurdity of his domain. If Gege didn't hate the fanbase and vice-versa, we'd end up having a ton of special grades at the end of the series with monsters like Higuruma and Takeda with absurd abilities that could sweep both Yuta and Hikari if they had time to grow into their abilities more.
The one thing i consider to be a Major downside to Hakari is that he *can't* use RCT at will. He uses it instinctively while in jackpot because of the infinite CE, but outside of Jackpot he can't just use it whenever he wants. He technically doesn't know how RCT works.
We haven’t seen enough from them to determine that. Yuta has the bigger arsenal - more ways to attack/defend Hakari has the better overall defense by a long shot. His automatic RCT is incredibly broken. Yuta’s manifestation of Rika lasts only 5 minutes. Hakari’s jackpot last 4:11. That means there’s 49 seconds Yuta has to finish off Hakari, assuming Hakari doesn’t spam another domain/jackpot. IF Hakari lands just 2 jackpots, Hakari has about another 4 minutes of automatic RCT against Yuta, while Yuta has to wait for Rika to recharge. Another unknown factor: we have yet to see Yuta’s domain. We don’t know how it works so it’s hard to gauge how it would fare against Hakari, but Yuta would likely need to cast his domain while Hakari does not have a jackpot. The only other problem for Yuta is….. based on what we know about domains, it’s very likely that Hakari can overpower Yuta’s domain. Meaning…. Yuta’s best chance at defeating Hakari would have to be after Hakari fails to get a jackpot and his domain has to recharge. But we have yet to see that happen as it almost seems like Hakari’s domain is rigged to guarantee a jackpot lol
I feel like gege shouldnt have made yuta say "hes even stronger than me" cuz i feel thats blatantly untrue i feel he shouldve made yuta say "when hes on a roll _he_ _could_ _even_ _defeat_ _me_ " its more accurate and gets a similar point across
I must agree with you. Yuta is probably Above hakari, but not by much. In a '5 matches 1v1' any of them could beat the other, and it'd most likely be a 3-2. Each has their Pros & and cons, but surely we CAN'T UNDERESTIMATE them. Lately, I've been seeing people commenting on hakari's potential L against Uraume. Hell! Hakari might even be the only one capable of withstanding Sukuna's World Cleaves.
My issue with the statement of hakari being stronger than yuta is that hakari hasn’t shown anything in his artillery that shows he’s stronger than yuta
I don't think two jackpot is enough to gas yuta out as hakari doesn't have anything that hits as hard as what he took on sendai so he'll be able to last longer i don't know if yutas domain was revealed when this video was made but that can also sway the battle in yitas favor i do think it is a close match with yuta winning 6-7/10 times
tbh I never took Yuta's statement as him saying "Hakari is stronger", because Hakari CLEARLY isn't. I think what he meant to say is, "when Hakari has jackpot, he can beat me". Which isn't the same as Hakari being stronger than Yuta, because a weaker person can beat a stronger person. It's definitely possible Hakari and Yuta fought before (with or without Rika) and Hakari eked out a win by outlasting Yuta's cursed energy reserves (which is difficult, but as we saw in his fight with Ryu, not impossible).
saying thats hakari dont get a up in status when he is in jackpot is crazy bruh. yuta is stronger in general, but hakari is stringer when hes in a jackpot, so yuta is the second to gojo via his consistence
There’s nothing rlly that implies yuta is on par with jackpot hakari in terms of stats. My evidence is yuta v yuji, or the sandai colony where he’s just keeping up with fighters significantly slower than base kashimo. Maybe he’s on par in terms of power, but not speed. However again, I don’t think the “worked up” or “on a roll” statement is specifically just 2 jackpots in a row. Hakari has a different mindset than every modern day sorcerer and before ppl use the statements mentioning sorcerers, or the jujutsu high fighting force, remember that hakari is not a student, and never graduated so he isn’t a sorcerer. He doesn’t have a rank, and isn’t part of the school. The jujutsu high fighting force one is debatable I suppose, and u can involve it, but at the same time it doesn’t change the big picture. In hakari’s jackpot, yuta doesn’t rlly have anything he can do except a domain expansion. Even using his copied techniques, hakari can outspeed something like air manipulation. He has infinite cursed energy so he is protected from cursed speech. The shikigami would be basically just toys to him. Roma’s eye laser isn’t as strong as ryu’s granite blast, and yuta was blocking that with his hands so it’s not taking off hakari’s head. During jackpot, yuta would have to be on the defensive. Outside of it however, yuta would be dominating the fight in terms of abilities. However, the whole 0.2 second domain thing is the amount of time that the domain is cast, not the amount of time it takes to cast. The statement to my knowledge is that hakari’s domain is cast as fast as mahito’s, which he can do extremely quickly because he can just grow limbs to do it near instantly, but not in 0.2 seconds respectively. Meaning his cast time is superior to yuta’s, and his domain is good in tug of wars so would likely beat yuta’s if they clashed because the same is never brought up about yuta’s. Yuta however has the ability to capitalize on the break between jackpots much better than kashimo with the multitude of other abilities he has. I think that hakari wins 1/2 of the time, and they really are equal. This is because of their mindsets. Yuta is calculated and reserved while hakari is brash and engaged. Hakari has more potential to grow than yuta as stated when uraume says that hakari is different than all other sorcerers. His mindset is completely different in that as has been brought up, always bet on hakari. Hakari is more likely to make that split second decision much faster than yuta, but yuta is more likely to have thought of a counter to potential split second decisions before the decisions are even made. Neither are dumb by any means, but they think completely differently, and what hakari lacks in planning, he makes up for in cognitive speed. And vice versa. The only time hakari planned in his fight with Kashimo was putting him over the water. Meanwhile yuta was constantly planning the whole time on keeping his rct a secret, and holding rika back, and not revealing his true technique until it gave him a severe advantage in the battle. However hakari constantly made split second decisions with increasing speed when running low on time, and instantly expelling the CE from the lighting to his face, and making a binding vow to protect himself at the cost of his arm. Yuta however only made split second decisions when using positive energy to kill kurorushi when backed into a corner in base, or clashing his domain with the other 2 fighters. I don’t think it’s as simple as who would win because they’re both growing in different ways, and both have skills that the other lacks in.
"Unusual abilities" why are people having hard time understanding that? He was considered to have unusual abilities because of his mimicry ability, he has a massive skill set that was seen in the panel where rika asked yuta what would he like to use, it was called "unusual abilities" is because it was never seen in the history having a dude that used curse speech and sky manipulation consecutively
Yuta is obviously stronger than hakari both strength wise and speed wise and i dont know if hakari opened his domain i doubt yuta wouldnt do a domain clash which is found yuta being above since hakari's domain is offensive and i believe that yuta's is since he tried to do a triple domain clash just saying🤷♂️
Tbh Maki, Hakari, and Yuta are all three sorcerers that arent far over each other as Heavy Hitters. Maki being the fastest, Hakari being probably the strongest, and Yuta being the most strategic and more intelligent in battle while also having the most powerful hax in the group. Maki is a direct counter to(speed feats) Hakari, Yuta being a direct counter to Maki(Hax) and Hakari being a counter to Yuta(Stamina).
I would say in the culling games arc jp hakari was stronger than sendai yuta but rn in Shinjuku I'd say they're relative but yuta would have the edge due to him having future sight and cleave and dismantle
It’s pretty clear yuta in base is stronger than hakari in base, but the question is whether hakari can hold on until he gets a jackpot the first time and each time the domain ends if he doesn’t win in the interim
In the latest chapter Sukuna called the brat possed by the curse spirit (Yuta) his main dish. Also Yuta can stall out a Jackpot from Hakari with RCT then hit the connection with Rika that would recharge his CE and have 5 minutes that would outlast Hakari even if he hits a 2nd jackpot. Only way here is Hakari hits a 3rd Jackpot, but we're talking about lower probability. Yuta takes this fight 8 out of 10 times
I think by the end of the series each one of his students will be better than Gojo in ONE thing. The point of Gojo nurturing these students was so NO ONE ends up like him again. There is no replacement for Gojo nor does there have to be. They will all play their role and pass Gojo in at least ONE thing by using Gojo as a reference to overcome. It is pointless to argue who is the "stronger". They all equal OR surpass Gojo in 1 thing. Yuta with "Unusual Abilities" Hakari with "RCT or healing" To Be Continued...
I also think it is incredible hard to compare hakari or gojo to anybody They are not normal, and you cannot win under normal conditions, doesn't matter how strong you are.
FP Yuta + Fully Manifested Rika > Jackpot Hakari > Fully Manifested Rika or FP Yuta on their own. This ranking is in terms of pure stats btw, in reality I think Base Yuta with Partially Manifested Rika can beat Hakari... Idk how this is even still a debate really xd
How would the ice girl know hakari healing surpass gojo if she never encounter with gojo herself ? Meaning she don’t really know how fast or strong gojo healing is
Doesnt hakaris domain expansion literally make you follow his rules until the game is over? Yuta would not be able to attack hakari during his domain right?
I'm definitely biased towards Yuta, but he has both favor within the narrative, and generally superior feats. Hakari definitely has superior regenerative abilities and a domain that would likely win the domain war (unless Yuta's domain is a Copy based domain). He also barely won a fight against a guy that was more powerful than him even though Kashimo didn't use his CT obviously and Hakari himself was holding back, and he suppressed Kashimo's lightning shot to his own head with RCT. But Yuta beat a prepared Suguru Geto who was holding back as a first year, then washed Yuji low-diff in the most suppressed state we've ever seen him in, then no-diffed Dhruv in his own domain. Then proceeded to low-mid-diff Kuroroushi, then went on to fight two separate sorcerers who were both low-end relative to himself physically with an insane CT and maybe the highest CE output in history (probably second to Heian era Sukuna) respectively, while holding back. Then snuck Kenjaku. Yuta also has Copy technique, Cursed Speech (which might be ineffective at this level), Sky Manipulation which is insane, Dhruv's barrier and shikigami, and Rika who's relative to him and can shoot lasers. Plus who knows what other techniques and cursed tools he's got now. Yuta is more versatile for sure.
This topic is dumb, it's been implied and stated countless times (Yes even in Shinjuku and by gojo himself) that both Hakari and Yuta are equal, rivals. Hakari is physically superior while Yuta has all of his technique and whatever. This fight is as 50/50 as a fight gets, either Yuta kills Hakari quickly in one lucky hit ir Yuta starts losing output and therefore loses. Comparing the 2 in a fight is pointless, it's a literal luck based fight.
Maki literally said “that’s not true “ meaning that she knows how strong Yuta is and knows he holds back most of the time Yuta > hakari any day stop the down play
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Keep in mind Yuta is a typical 'popular' Japanese teenager archetype, meaning he purposefully undervalues his abilities despite being fully capable
The fact that people are overlooking this is hilarious. Yuta is HUMBLE. The only proof we have of Hakari being stronger is Yuta saying so. (Maki Quickly Debunked this)
I firmly believe Yuta is much closer to Gojo’s level than He is to Hakari
I disagree, but I can also see how it’s contentious. I’d personally give the edge to hakari, because in jjk mindsets and mindset related amps r extremely strong. This is under the assumption that Yuta would be lying to people just because he’s humble. Even though no one knows Yuta more than himself, and what he says should be at least taken mostly serious, even if maki tries to debunk it (there’s no proof that she’s met hakari before, and she has been under the impression that Yuta is second only to gojo as most people are). Uraume makes the distinction that hakari isn’t like modern day sorcerers because of his mindset, something that 2 of the stronger old sorcerers say the opposite about with Yuta. Where Yuta is more calculated and varied in terms of abilities, Hakari is more brash and straight forward. When in Jackpot, Yuta really doesn’t have anything except domain expansion to deal with him since Hakari should be faster and stronger in general. Even during his 5 min w awakens rika, he shouldn’t be able to overpower Hakari with anything. Hakari is quicker to the draw than Yuta. He’s also just the superior hand to hand fighter in general. Yuta would have to stay at a distance, but the speed difference should probably be big since Yuta is slower than naobito and it’s more than likely that kashimo is faster, so hakari should be faster, if not relative. Just my thoughts, I got more but I’m not gonna go thru my full thoughts here yet.
Mahoraga neg diff 🗣🗣
@@bromous1446 hakari doesn’t get any stat boosts from jackpot😭 he jus has unlimited CE n auto regen. N Hakari isn’t faster than yuta, yuta literally speed blitzed Kenjaku. Saying yuta is slower than naobito doesn’t add much, his whole CT is about speed and accuracy so it makes sense LMAO even now sukuna calls Yuta “the main dish”, not to mention gojo said Yuta has more CE than him so it won’t be easy to gas him out.
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Obviously Hakari’s Jackpot gives him stat increases. He’s literally being overwhelmed and blitzed by Kashimo in his domain, then in jackpot he is relative and at times faster. That’s literally just factual. Base Kashimo landed a hit on a Sukuna who was fast enough to dodge MBA attacks. A stronger Sukuna than the one that perception blitzed Ryu. Using current scaling means nothing since they had a month to train and are showing very little feats so far. I’m talking pre training period, because anything current is headcannon and assumptions because we don’t know their current powers. Yuta scaled upwards slightly from Ryu in speed, if not relativity, and he got perception blitzed by a weaker Sukuna than the one that base Kashimo isn’t getting perception blitzed by. Also putting Yuta below naobito does matter when hakari scales up from naobito since naobito is only slightly faster at best than Jogo, and he couldn’t land a single hit on 15f Sukuna either. Do the math, pre training, Yuta has nothing to deal with jackpot hakari.
Let's be consistent. Hakari fans using Megumi as a way to affirm Yuta's statement about Hakari being stronger than him is truly laughable when they reject Maki's statement for exactly the same reason why they should reject Megumi's, especially when Megumi literally showed that he's capable of having an bias opinion based on chapter 10, where he states that Yuta is the only one who he sincerely respects and this argument gets supported by the fact Megumi says the following: "All the senpai say he's a good for nothing but Okkotsu senpai says Hakari's stronger than him", so Megumi ignores the majority of opinions in favor of Yuta? Who would've thought.
Everything else is also debunkable pretty easily but I just say this, Sendai Yuta has better feats.
If we are talking about pre time skip than this is a wash, Hakari was speedblitzing Kashimo in chapter 188 and 189 while Yuta struggled against Ryu in chapter 180
Currently they are equal via Gojo’s statement
@@guilha1506 Yeah, Hakari getting washed.
Hakari struggled throughout his fight against Kashimo just like how Yuta struggled at Sendai while holding back. If you call 188 a speed blitz then from your own perspective what Yuta did to Ryu at chapter 180 is also a speed blitz.
Pre time skip jackpot Hakari is equal or slightly stronger than base Yuta and Yuta with fully manifested Rika undoubtedly outscales.
@@Azathoth0 Hakari only struggled against Kashimo in two instances, once his jackpot ended and he got almost killed and when Kashimo used all of his cursed energy to blow him. In every single part of the fight Hakari was either not going all out and taking hits careless because he could regenerate, or he was fighting all out and speedblitzing Kashimo
Evidence for that is that at the end of chapter 188 Hakari gets faster (stated by Kashimo) and hits Kashimo numerous times before he could react, then he disappears from Kashimo’s sight when Kashimo attacks and pins him into the ground and attacks him even more. In chapter 189 Kashimo is also punched multiple times underwater before he can react.
Nothing that Yuta ever did comes close to speedblitzing Ryu. And Ryu is an inferior opponent to Kashimo since Kenjaku considers that old dying Kashimo would be a challenge to prime Ryu.
Jackpot Hakari absolutely no diffs base Yuta, okkotsu without full manifestation is relative in speed to Yuji and a roach and gets overwhelmed by Uro and Ryu without any difficult. Base Yuta is hot garbage, idk why people overrate this form of him
sendai yuta does not have better feats, it was a ffa. Yuta has only won fights thanks to others helping him out. Uro giving him access to Sky Manipulation against Ryu,m Takaba distracting Kenjaku, now hes jumping with yuji and prob maki against sukuna. Hakari gaps yuta hard when it comes to feats.
@@guilha1506 Correct he struggled, in fact he got completely unmatched in base (Yuta and Ryu could never). Let's be consistent. Base Hakari needed to redo a one consecutive effect sequence twice because he was getting too much damage, Kashimo also shown to be relative to jackpot Hakari as he matched him with speed and strength. Hakari himself also acknowledged the danger of Kashimo's built up lightning strike.
I didn't deny the speed blitz feat and Kashimo's statement isn't necessary. In chapter 189 Kashimo was very close to Hakari and so he's been caught off guard and you can read the text and see that he was lost in thought, that isn't a good presentation.
If you were consistent then you would agree that what Hakari showed in chapter 188 would also correspond to what Yuta has shown in chapter 180, you have no reason to not accept that as those two did the same thing. Ryu is only slightly weaker overall than Kashimo, not to mention he's much more superior to Kashimo in certain aspects. That's actually a supporting argument for Ryu simply because Kashimo has been challenging people to try and go all out, yet because Kenjaku isn't fit for fighting in his current body he thought Ryu could fill that role, and we know that because Kashimo directly sought out opponents and by the fact he finally accepted Kenjaku's offer just to fight Sukuna.
Jackpot Hakari is more relative to base Yuta than you think, we can see that by their feats pretty clearly. Yuta without Rika is faster than Yuji, same Yuji who had no problem keeping up with awakened Maki. Regarding Kurourushi, Yuta just wanted to get him off guard for his plan to be executed which is to kill Kurourushi through the shortest route to the brain. Yuta got heavily targetted in the early stages when in base by two elite sorceres with an DE, yet he still fought both of them and tanked a granite blast that destroyed city blocks. And he fought Ryu in close quarters combat with his high output.
Here's a question for you. What's your evidence that allows you to put old Kashimo below reincarnated Kashimo.
Hakari needs 3+ jackpots to beat Yuta
If yuta doesn’t kill him before that then he deserves to get his ahh beat
Do you know how easy it is for hakari to get even 2 jackpots
@@jpnoir4807 ppl underestimate him so much. His record is 30 in a row, that’s literally more than Gojo’s record to my knowledge. If I’m not mistaken he caps at 5 domains a day. He also has better RCT than him and with RCT he lasted minutes in sukuna’s domain.
@@bromous144630 in a row? What is bro reading
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I misread, he’s never been past 30spins to get a jackpot, his record is unknown, but he can technically do it infinitely since eventually he is guaranteed a Jackpot if he spins out of increased probability or quick spins mode, and goes back to normal where he is guaranteed one on the rainbow door or 4th spin of normal mode.
@@tiongdoraemon5771 bro must be reading kukutsu jaisen, or some knock off of jjk, cause wtf
Its as simple as this, there's 4 special grade sorcerers. Who are they? Is Hakari one? He is not, is Yuta one? He is, Yuta is stronger.
Yuta has a lot more in his bag. He wins imo
What good is his bag if he can't kill Hakari?
@@ShowtimeLawyuta’s bag is really good against hakari. He got good defense(sky manipulation) and cursed speech which he could use to stop hakari and slice his head off. Also yuta could have a lot more in his bag that we don’t know about
@blazen9958 we've never seen cursed speech cut someone's head off, also the rest of Yuta's bag is headcanon until he uses it. His bag isn't deep enough AS OF NOW to beat Hakari
@@ShowtimeLaw I’m not saying cursed speech does that what I’m saying is that yuta can tell hakari to stop and then cut his head off with his sword. Sure a lot of yuta’s bag hasn’t been unveiled yet but we just need to wait till the next couple of chapters to see it
@@blazen9958 if he's given the next couple of chapters
one of these guys was tasked with jumping kenjaku and fighting sukuna. one of them got uraume. i wonder why
Well hakari and kashimo made a vow promising to help him fight sukuna
its because hakari promised to kashimo to not let anyone interfere in the fight between him and sukuna
@@princegodar3995 broski im talking about events after kashimo vs sukuna. they made plans in case he lost and the plan was for hakari to take on uraume, takaba to take on kenjaku, and yuji/higuruma/kusakabe/ino to hold sukuna off until yuta can return from finishing kenjaku
@@vism2812hakari is only combating uraume to have them not interfere with the battle that had taken place between Kashimo and sukuna, none of this indicates their plan is for hakari to specifically combat uraume, hakari simply came up to uraume and told them he made a promise to not let anyone get in the way of Kashimo’s fight, which is what we have to go with, as nothing explicitly contradicts that
@@vism2812 Broski forgot that uraume alone was enough to stop all of these fighters before no dif. Uraume is extremely strong and if he was in the fight with Sukuna they’d win no dif. Also because Kashimo was fighting Sukuna while Hakari was targeting uraume, what’s he gonna do just leave his fight with uraume to go fight Sukuna? Also Yuta snuck Kenjaku, it’s not a testament to his strength, and by that it would be better to have a heavy hitter in the field with Sukuna as opposed to none, and hakari’s hands were full. Like this is such a nonpoint
Yuta + Fully Manifested Rika > Jackpot Hakari > Base Yuta > Base Hakari
Base yuta and jackpot hakari are very close in my opinion base yuta can box him up it’s just that he lacks the attack power to get through that healing. Maybe cut an arm off before jackpot ends and he could potentially win in base.
YUTA HAS A SWORD AND A CANON, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.@@ricky6151
@@ricky6151 i would say it like kashimo vs jp hakari. Base Yuta alone doesnt overpower him but he has partially rika. For me it depends on hakari getting past yutas 5 min and how deadly yutas de is.
Yuta shouldn’t be anywhere but relative to Jackpot hakari with his highest amps. Base yuta isn’t close to jackpot hakari. Yuta is a sorcerer, and in jujutsu high the rankings in speed would be Gojo then naobito. Whenever Yuta goes, it’d be below that. Hakari isn’t a sorcerer anymore since he got expelled so he was obviously left out of this pool, but it more than likely that Kashimo is faster than naobito, do not relative, so Hakari would be as well. Yuta has to beat hakari between jackpots because he has nothing to use on jackpot hakari except ranged abilities (not cursed speech).
@@ricky6151 bro he could easily pull out some one shot hax from come curse technique he copied. Hakari will lose most of the time in this no matter what. How would hakari defend with auto rct against, Yuta, Rika, and whatever the sure hit for yuta's domain is in.
The statement for Yuta saying “Unusual Abilities” is still heavily leaning towards strength. Unusual abilities is basically the same as Supernatural Abilities and that would obviously translate to Jujutsu. Jujutsu Kaisen is even called a Supernatural Battle Manga.
The statement is basically saying Yuta’s abilities as a sorcerer is only second to Gojo. So basically the second strongest.
Also it can’t be talent because Higiruma was confirmed to have taken equal to Gojo, meaning Yuta can’t be second in that.
So Yuta WOULD be the second strongest by that statement regardless of translation.
This is the thing. Nobody has ever said what specifically is and isn't an "unusual ability".
I mean the fact that he didnt just stay 2nd strongest implies thats not what it is or at best hes being purposuly ambiguous. He could litterally just be calling them strage. Gojo has one of a kind reincarnating super eyes that make him practically unbeatable in their society and yuta has unanturally high amounts of energy and has a technique channeled through and exorcised cursed spirit that somehow turned into a shikigami. Like everyone else is just using normal cursed techniques besides yuji their power they were born with are just fundmentally strange
Yuta would be the second strongest sorcerer in the modern era in any translation. Hakari isn’t a sorcerer tho, he was suspended and hasn’t been given a grade. Nothing implies that he is a sorcerer either, just that he’s strong and on par with Yuta. The same concept as Toji being stronger/faster/superior to 90% of jujutsu society, but he was never given a grade because he wasn’t able to become a sorcerer. Base Kashimo should be faster than naobito since naobito is relative to slightly faster than Jogo and he couldn’t touch 15f Sukuna, yet base kashimo hit 20f Sukuna who could avoid multiple attacks from MBA kashimo, meaning that at the bare minimum he isn’t being blitzed in base against this 20f Sukuna. Since Hakari isn’t technically a sorcerer, that falls in line with the continuity that naobito is the second fastest sorcerer, and Yuta has been a sorcerer since the beginning so he is included in that pool. As far as strength, idk how they’d scale against each other, all ik is that Yuta can’t rlly do anything to a Jackpot hakari in terms of hax past just using sky manipulation defensively. It depends on who can outlast the other, and hakari’s record for domains in a row is 30, so that’s at peak performance a 130ish minutes that he can’t be beat by Yuta, with breaks in between that Yuta can beat him.
About your arguiment about yuta not being the 2nd in terms of "talent" is because of higuruma being stated to be equal potential to gojo is kinda dumb since the statement about higuruma being equal to gojo in potential was like 2 chapters ago while the statement about yuta being 2nd to gojo was like early culling games arc.
8 minutes wouldn't be enough to take out Yuta.
Kashimo lasted 2 full rounds, on top of whatever time was left over from the jackpot against Charles.
So looking at Kashimo lasting at least 9min showing no real visual damage, and not showing any signs of being low on CE until Hakari dropped him in the water.
Yuta who's much more CE than Kashimo, is more durable than Kashimo, has Rika turning it into a 2v1 , who can also refill Yutas CE if he gets low.
Yutas not getting killed by just punches and kicks.
Hakari needs to show a high output attack like being able to discharge CE like Yuta & Ryu to have a real chance of beating Yuta.
I don’t know why people seem to think Yuta’s weakness is a drawn out battle, he has the 2nd most CE in the verse and can get it replenished. Kashimo went multiple rounds of JP and the only reason he ran out of CE was because of the water, there’s no reason for Yuta who has wayyy more and can refill it, to not go more than one round of JP. When you look at the damage Kashimo took it is basically just bruise and nosebleed level, Yuta who can tank granite blasts with his bare hands would not need to use RCT against the level of attacks Hakari dishes out. I honestly don’t even know what Hakari can do to base Yuta, he doesn’t have the AP to do any serious damage and there’s nothing stopping Yuta from doing Hakari like he did Kenjaku and Geto the instant his JP run out. Kashino landed a lighting strike on his stomach when it ran out, if it hit his head it would have been over.
Kashimo is also on a different tier than Ryu though. Not to mention that Ryu’s blasts were just basic cursed energy, with no attribute attributed to it. Kashimo’s lighting is literal plasma, it’s significantly stronger even if it has a weaker output. Kashimo was also defending against internal damage casually, and nothing Hakari was doing was being done with a weapon. All he does is punch and as of yet we haven’t seen any fighters punch with enough force to destroy an opponent except Sukuna, gojo, or Yuki. Still tho, Yuta is slower than naobito since 2 arm naobito is the second fastest sorcerer. Kashimo is more than likely faster than naobito, but if not relative, and by proxy so too is Hakari. Base Yuta and partially manifested rika amped Yuta are not matching Hakari in physical ability when he’s in jackpot. He’s probably relative with fully manifested rika. Ryu also blocked rika’s blast with his hand, so clearly that’s not taking off hakari’s head even if he somehow gets the shot off when Hakari is as fast or faster. Also nothing is known about yuta’s domain, but there is a bit known about hakari’s. It’s the center of his fighting style, it can be casted as fast as mahito’s, and it is good in tug of wars. More than likely he is beating yuta’s domain in a tug of war. When in jackpot none of yuta’s arsenal past rika’s strength will be useful since cursed speech can be defended with CE, and infinite is more than very large. Sky manipulation can be avoided since Hakari is faster, maybe not completely ignored, but he can find a way around it because of his speed, so that would be his best bet on the defensive. None of his other techniques would even come close to useful though. When in Jackpot, Hakari outstats, but in between he is very vulnerable. It all comes down to who can make those split second decisions because regardless of if Hakari can do the same amount of damage as Ryu or not, he should be physically stronger and definitely physically faster so he can do more damage in hand to hand than Ryu.
But yuta can only replenish his ce when he has ring on for those 5 minutes
@@bromous1446 249 confirms that yuta is on another level than hakari is.
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Literally doesn’t tho, it just shows Yuta’s domain against a Sukuna who can’t use his own to clash with it, and he still needs yuji to finish this Sukuna off. It never states or shows Yuta’s superiority, Hakari’s inferiority, or anything of the sort. All it shows is that yuta is strong which no one was denying in the first place. Hakari as of now and until there is a concrete reason to believe such, is relative to Yuta at each of their respective full powers.
If it’s a 1v1 against Yuta, always bet on Hakari
If its a 1v1 against yuta and you want to burn money always bet on hakari*
andddd there goes all your money 😂
I know who not to take financial advice from…
@@pikpik3745 Spin again
@@lanceshadow7335 hakari is fucking ass and he’s a gambling bum who’s gonna get packed up by servant
I mean They sent yuta to fight sukuna So that right there is everything you need to know.
Plus during the strategy, all the sorcery said Yuta is their trump card. Not hakari.
Hikari getting no stat buff from the infinite energy of jackpot seems like clear headcannon.
Its pretty clear narratively that yuta is overall stronger than hikari, but hikari is stronger specifically in jackpot.
Not saying he doesn’t, just that he doesn’t get a FURTHER buff if he hits another one, but there is obviously a stat buff from jackpot, sorry if that was unclear
It means Jackpot Hakari is stronger than Base Yuta
Maki denied the statement made by Yuta about Hakari being stronger.
This means Yuta with Fully Manifested Rika is stronger than Jackpot Hakari
@@dynamis1720I would disagree with that last part, not because I don't believe it's possible, but because I don't agree with taking Maki's evaluation of his strength more serious than his own. Plus, it's not like Yuta forgot Rika exists. I don't know why one would consider Rika and the ring, while the other didn't
@@dynamis1720 no that doesn’t mean that. Hakari with jackpot destroys base Yuta in every single way so there wouldn’t be an argument. Bad Yuta can’t even use his copy ct, or a domsin so the only argument would be against Yuta at his best
@@dynamis1720 how would maki know yuta's power more than yuta?
I'll be honest Yuta is stated to not care about himself and is uninterested in himself he constantly calls others amazing and doesn't care for himself so his statement shouldn't be taken as valid
One is stepping to Sukuna while the other is getting pressed by “Uraume”
Well higuruma also “stepped” to sukuna, but gets washed by uraume through sheer physical stats
@@mushy5960 Yuta ain’t Higaruma
@@thedban1206 what does that even mean, my point is proven through higuruma having terrible physical stats
that why I calll Yuta fans totally dellusional
Have you seen sukuna using any attack on Yuta yet ?? he is just taking all the hits from him then crazy Yuta fans come outta nowhere and start chirping that Yuta is 1v1ing with sukuna and is able to land some hits on him ... If Sukuna uses his dimentional slash or pops out his domain or even gets his rct back Yuta will be wiped out of existance Yuta himself confirmed that in rescent chapter while hakari with jackpot will be able to survive all that
@@imtragon9228 sukuna says himself in the latest chapter that he can’t use the world slash while maintaining hollow wicker basket. It’s not that Sukuna doesn’t want to do it it’s that Yuta isn’t allowing him too. And yes Sukuna has been attacking Yuta, you see him slashing at them and Yuta using RCT all throughout the chapter. My comment wasn’t meant to be taken seriously but if you wanna be serious at least tell the damn truth, you’re straight lying to push your agenda.
The statements are just saying:
1) Hakari can possibly beat Yuta.
2) Yuta's abilities/techniques are the strongest.
Maki disagreeing with Yuta doesn't say much because she's biased. Megumi is coming from a place of witnessing both of them and gauging their abilities. He's not shown to favor either. That being said, they're relative according to Gojo, who's extremely insightful when it comes to the potential of sorcerors. I don't think one has to be stronger.
yuta's feat against kenjaku is waaay more than enough to close the debate imo
bro was scared af that he had to camp and backstab rather than 1v1
El combate contra Kenjaku hubiese sido más justo que con el de Sukuna. Sukuna un corte y patras. Con Kenjaku es más parejo.
I thought it was pretty obvious that Yuta was downplaying himself to be polite because that’s just the kind of person he is😂
Delusional
@@jpnoir4807 Not at all
I thought it was kind of obvious. Was everyone at ease when hakari showed up on the battlefield? Did he go to fight sakuna after beating kenjaku? Or is he off fighting a sidekick? Yuta is second only to gojo at that time, and around that time is when yuta said hakari on a roll could beat him. After the time skip yuta is obviously the main and gojo said he would supass him. Also given any short amount of time yuta has proven to grow more than anyone, I'm excited to see what his training did.
If Kashimo lasted 4 domain expansions without a cursed technique and purely off of cursed energy manipulation (special properties, reinforcement) give him the 2nd HIGHEST CE AMOUNT IN THE MANGA, REVERSE CURSE TECHNIQUE, SPECIAL GRADE CURSED SPIRIT (stronger than you btw) in exchange for losing those special CE properties. Yuta is not lasting only 2 domain expansions his base will carry him many rounds.
Yuta also has probably the “best” CE reinforcement, as he was straight up catching Granite Blast that have the highest output in the series. And Ryu straight up said “Damn he’s tough as hell” in hand to hand combat.
Hakari is basically impossible to scale outside of the top 3/4 characters. His matchups are legitimately luck-dependent. If Hakari gets >/=3 Jackpots, he wins. If he doesn't, he loses.
I think yuta was just recognising hakari as the best rct user in the verse when he said he was stronger than him
Wait the Yuta statement let's not forget he had 35 points before the fight with Uro and Ryu and he fought the cockroach curse even before them so I don't think we can say he run out of curse energy because of the Ryu right when he's been fighting even before that so he fought 7-8 people or curses before going to Uro and Ryu and still held his own
I think hakari against ppl stronger than him is either a tie or hakari wins cause he makes it a battle of attrition and since his jackpot is almost guaranteed within the gimmicks of his domain he is in every fight an infinitely regenerating power house of a berserker
By now yuta has gained granate blast and sky manipulation as well. Plus he's got a whole load of other cursed tools and techniques. Yuta also HIMSELF not with Rika HIMSELF has said to posses boundless cursed energy. Rika herself has an independent supply of cursed energy which at bare minimum is on par with yuta or even be considered unlimited similar to hakaris Jackpot.
Yuta stamina is heavily underrated he has more cursed energy than gojo and feels near bottomless while in base in a 1v1 fight i really dont see him running out of stamina quickily kashimo someone who we can assume has less cursed energy than yuta was able to last multiple rounds against hakari but even if he does run low he can call on rika and her stated boundless cursed energy to refill himself the only reason yuta was pushed to his limits in sendai is because he was forced to fight against multiple special grade lvl fighters
And out lasting yuta is really hakari only win condition because what else can he do against yuta to defeat him all he can do is use punches and kicks and yuta was stated by ryu to have an tough defense and he has the highest output in history even with his punches he still had a tough time damaging yuta
@@yutaoGOATsu236 Ryu did not have a tough time hurting Yuta whatsoever 😭 Ryu lowball needs to be studied
@@1hundred1 with his base punches he did have a hard time getting past yutas reinforcement he said its like punching against a large water tank
@@1hundred1 Yuta also massively held back against Ryu, Ryu himself even fronts this. 'Without that rule, you'd have killed us.' Killing someone is way easier than subduing them.
@@yutaoGOATsu236 No he didn't man. He literally had Yuta coughing up blood when they clashed their backs & it was stated that a singular punch from Ryu was too much for even a fully manifested Rika to withstand. Yuta was able to block some of Ryu's punches in the initial exchange, but Gege made it quite clear in the following pages that Yuta can't keep up with Ryu in raw h2h with Ryu comboing Yuta across buildings
Wow, this is the most detailed comparison of the two!
Thank you so much! 🙂❤️
"Unusual Abilities" in that context can only refer Jujutsu in general.
In their world Jujutsu is Unusual Abilities.
If anyone else has an idea of what they meant by "Unusual Abilities" I'd love to hear it but I do think that's the correct line of thinking
Ppl forget that in jackpot hakari outstats yuta in at least speed, and at most every stat but dura. Extreme dif fight either way, but yuta’s only chance of winning is between hakari’s jackpots.
I hate that people spin the shit out of Yuta's statement to use it as an argument that Hikari is stronger. He's not. Yuta was being modest. He's known to underestimate himself. I get that you like Hikari because he's cool, but he is not and will never be stronger than Yuta. Yuta is frankly just a bad match up for Hikari one on one. He has enough power to find a way to take him out even whilst Hikari is being healed by RCT and even if he didn't, he has a large enough cursed energy pool to last in a battle of attrition until Hikari runs out of jackpots. And offensively there just isn't much Hikari can do to challenge Yuta. Even his attacks against Kashimo were ineffective until Kashimo ran out of cursed energy. And Yuta has a lot more cursed energy than Kashimo.
How is this even a question? Yuta is superior by every conceivable metric: technique, overall CE, feats, narrative statements.
People who are delusional enough to even entertain the idea Hakari is stronger, base their entire coping theory on a single quote from Yuta (he said that when Hakari is on a roll, he can be even stronger than him). Those same people convenientely forget the fact that Yuta is famous for being overly kind and humble, and that in the very same panel where he tries to say Hakari is stronger, Maki immediately contradicts him and say "that's not true" (which very much sounds like Gege telling the readers how things actually stand).
- Yuta is a Special grade. Hakari isn't.
- Yuta has been repeatedly described as the second strongest sorcerer after Gojo. Hakari hasn't.
- Yuta has monstrous levels of CE (even above Gojo). Hakari needs a whole domain expansion to have high CE (and that's only temporary).
- Yuta has access to a ridiculously wide arsenal of techniques (even surpassing Kenjaku and Sukuna, in terms of sheer versatility). Hakari is literally a one-trick-pony who can only kick and punch.
- Yuta has complete mastery of RCT, and can even use it to heal others, or to attack cursed spirits. Hakari can't even use RCT unless he hits a jackpot.
- Yuta has defeated 3 Heian Era sorcers + a special grade curse sprit, in a single go. A feat that Hakari hasn't come even remotely close to matching.
- Yuta has put Geto on a shirt, when he was just a first year student.
- Yuta has Rika, who is a monster in her own right. Even in her unreleased form, she's strong enough to demolish bridges with a single punch and completely immobilize the likes of Yuji (who's one of the physically strongest characters in the entire verse). And in her released form, not only does she get even stronger, but she also instantly replenishes Yuta's immense CE pool.
No, Hakari isn't stronger than Yuta. Hakari can't even hold a candle to Yuta. Here's how a fight between them would go:
Hakari: jackpot!
Yuta: dOn'T mOvE.
Hakari: *gets beheaded.
Only 2 people in jjk is messing with Yuta
With the heavy hitters statement, the translation meant that Yuta would be the first one on the Frontline if Gojo loses.also Hakari's domain isn't 0.2 it's faster than that , and is known to be exceptionally strong in domain wars.
Hakari seems to fight these lethal fighters because of his abilities , Yuta wouldn't survive the headshot from Kashimo but from what we have seen these 2 are relative they're always compared to each other
Yuta wouldnt be hit by the headshot either xD like whats your point lil bro. Hakkari would just die to kenjakus reversed anti gravity
Yuta wouldn’t even get to that point to where hakari was that’s a terrible example. Also Kashimo literally chose to have fun in that fight he said it himself that he could just time hakari out but that would be boring
The only thing supporting Hakari is Yuta's statement, but that statement has a LOT of problems with it. This is gonna be a long comment.
1. "When he's on a roll" is a surprisingly pointless statement. Being on a Roll means landing continuous Jackpots, not the state of Jackpot itself.
If we assume that Yuta is either unable or unwilling to kill Hakari in Jackpot, than Yuta's only win con is to wait for Jackpot to end so he can knock him unconscious or something. This win con would never happen if Hakari never runs out/ is on a roll.
2. How TF would Yuta know this?
In order for Yuta to know what he's talking about, he would need to have actually fought Hakari. When could this have happened?
If this happened before the end of jjk 0, than we can completely ignore it from a powerscaling perspective. We can also ignore it If this happened less than 3 months after the end of vol 0. Yuta's been overseas for a while by the start of June, I'll guesstimate and say at least 3 months. Yuta wouldn't have had any opportunity to fight Hakari since he returned. By this logic, Yuta never had any opportunity to fight Hakari at a point that matters, so we can assume that any Information Yuta has is completely worthless.
3. What does Yuta mean by "stronger"?
Is it just raw physical power? Does he mean stronger than Base Yuta, or Yuta with the ring?
Is Rika included in this?
4. How much does Yuta actually mean what he's saying? He's specifically trying to make the case for why Yuji and Megumi should try and recruit Hakari.
5. Why does Maki disagree? Why would gege write this in if not to make it clear that Yuta's words are debatable?
yuta “stamina” disadvantage doesn’t make sense. Gojo himself said Yuta has a bigger CE pool than him. So I doubt 2 jackpots could wear him out. N Rika gives him unlimited CE so if he were to get close to running out, he could stack on the CE that rika would give him. Not to mention he has multiple special grade cursed weapons in his arsenal😭
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I agree with you but another interpretation could be that Yutas Mimicry is the second most powerful CT behind Limitless + Sox Eyes and The Comedian which is said to rival/equal each other
In spite of this, I’d still say Angel and Megumis CT are stronger or relative to mimicry, Curse Spirit Manipulation is also in the same tier
The problem is it states it’s “ONLY behind Gojo.” So it’d have to be above all CTs, which just doesn’t really work.
@@thesage7314 well Naobito is second fastest but this isn’t true
Hakari,yuta and probably yuji rn is also faster
@@yaboiplank6764 The thing about that is that it states: He became KNOWN as the second fastest. You could interpret it as by reputation he is the second fastest, but in actuality he is not.
Or maybe they just got stronger since then
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I think a large assumption when discussing the topics like this is that the characters in the story have a perfect understanding of each other's relative strength. The problem with this is that it is shown in the story that they don't always do. So any statement about strength, however definitive it may sound, does not necessarily reflect their actual ranking. Additionally, we have also seen that in this manga it is not so much about " dragonball style" powerlevel. Some characters have abilities that mitigate those of others, or weaknesses that can be exploited with the right opposing abilities. Because of this a situation can occur where A>B and B>C. Yet at the same time C>A. Then there are also circumstances. Some characters are much stronger when certain conditions are met. Like preparation, location, or the possession of certain items. All of this meaning that any ranking you come up with will be flawed unless it only reflects the general perception of strength.
I appreciate you actually going over if Hakari down hit Jackpot. People assume Hakari is gonna hit it but it’s not guaranteed every time and no matter what interpretation Hakari even being relative to Yuta is dependent on him being in jackpot mode. The way I always interpret the statements to make sense is that Yuta said Hakari on a roll is stronger that him he never said he was stronger than him and Rika. I think that interpretation could make some sense considering at that point in JJK Yuta hadn’t fully manifested Rika again sense Vol. 0. Yuta is more consistently stronger and Hakari’s win con is entirely dependent on outlasting him. I think Yuta doesn’t have to fully manifest Rika to combat Hakari’s first jackpot. Hakari doesn’t have any big moves he has hand to hand so he’ll definitely be beating Yuta up but he won’t be forcing Yuta to use RCT nearly as much as he did in Sendai where he was getting DBZ ki blasts fired at him on one side and a spatially distorted fist punching him on the other.
Nah he is gonna hit a jackpot eventually. And once he gets one he's likely to hit more. Jackpot Hakari should be considered his base because that's the essence of his curse technique.
@@staticshockaa7222 Jackpot is a product of him using Domain Expansion and getting the best possible outcome of it. He doesn’t even get that outcome every time he opens domain and if he doesn’t he’ll have CT burnout and have a cool down. Whole point being it’s not his base. Not even close his domain is the true essence of his CT but he can’t access it whenever he wants and if he doesn’t land it first try then he’ll become vulnerable because he doesn’t scale to any version of Yuta without it.
@@datboimazz his curse technique is his domain you guys get this wrong all the time. Just like Higuruma curse technique is his domain. Base Higiruma is curse technique Higuruma, he is gonna put you in a domain because that is his technique. This is like saying Gojo without limitless is his base. Nah its a technique inherit to the character. Hakari is going to hit a jackpot because the house is rigged and the rules in his favor because again it is his technique
Thanks a lot king! ❤️
@@staticshockaa7222 Your logic here is awful. We see Higaruma fight in base against Sukuna with his hammer. Then we saw him go back to base after he used his domain only difference being he had the executioner sword. We also saw Hakari fight multiple times without his Jackpot state or DE. The form of Hakari that Yuji was tanking punches from is his base he also doesn’t need to activate his Domain to use his CT we saw him use his CT without his domain but regardless using your logic Base Yuta is Yuta with Rika out because Rika is his CT or stores his copy CT. so it’s just semantics at this point. The point is that Hakari without his Domain is not on the same level as Yuta without his ring on.🤷🏾♂️
Yuta no diffs hakari i hate how people really took 1 statement n ran with it
Wait I people actually think Hakari is stronger than Yuta? I thought it was just a joke…
Love this vid man! literally agreed with everything
Thank you so much man! very much appreciated!
Hakari isnt exactly crazy strong, he’s just immortal so can counter WAY faster than an enemy anticipates. The problem is the story doesnt let him run out of domain after 4 mins like he’s supposed to, he will always jackpot 20x until the fights over or plot decides he needs to die
No, hakari is NOT stronger than Yuta. I don't even know how this became a debate. Yuta didn't even say hakari was stronger than him. And it was clear that Yuta was being modest about hakari because hakari was his senpai. We've seen hakari at his best and even with jackpot, he only won against kashimo because he used the water. If he didn't use the water, he'd have lost. And kashimo didn't even use his cursed technique to push him to the limit.
Yuta is second to Gojo in the modern era. I like how power scalers prefer head cannon to the author's statements.
You say this as if it’s a given that Yuta is stronger than Kashimo…. And it’s definitely not. Kashimo would breeze through Sendai easier than Yuta did and JP Hakari had a great showing against Kashimo. Kashimo has a line of scaling putting him above Yuta, that being ryu. Ryu got perception blitzed by pre bath 15f Meguna, and he was giving Yuta a high/extreme dif h2h fight. Kashimo on the other hand was pressing 20f Meguna (he was weakened to be fair, but 15f was also suppressed as well so I think it’s a moot point) in h2h. So to me that says JP Hakari, who’s was relative to Kashimo In a high dif fight, (at the very least h2h wise) is indeed stronger than Yuta, who was relative to Ryu in a high diff fight ,when he’s worked up.
@@uchiharainylol no, Yuta fought 3 special grades one after the other.
Two at the same time.
On top of that he was not going for the kill as he wanted points.
@@uchiharainytodo lo que acabas de decir no tiene sentido alguno XD. Las comparaciones ni al caso.
Hakari should be 65% stronger than Yuta in terms of physical stats since his base stats are higher meaning that his Curse Energy Reinforcement would be higher, Hakari seems to have better Curse Energy Manipulation than Yuta meaning the CE Reinforcement would be higher ontop of having better physical stats.
However Yuta does have the versatility given his abilities but nearly all of them wouldn't work on Hakari
Sky Manipulation would be good but it wouldn't mean much to Hakari due to RCT and his general stats
Druv's Technique: wouldn't mean much since it barely hurt Uro
Granite Blast: i don't know if it's confirmed he has it but imma say he does. It still wouldn't mean much given the stats difference and Hakari's RCT
Curse Speech: Hakari would just cover his ears with curse energy to block out Curse Speech
Even with Rika i doubt they would win since Uro took a Full on Barrage from both and was still kicking heck she wanted more smoke and since Hakari ranks above her due to fighting Kashimo someone who in his old age was compared to and even hinted at to be stronger than prime Ryu the same Ryu who gave yuta trouble meaning that prime Kashimo should scale above Ryu by atleast 50% then A seemingly going all out Jackpot Hakari ragdolls and beats up Kashimo putting him atleast 15% stronger tham Kashimo
The way i look at this fight is Hakari can be stronger than Yuta but not all the time he has to meet certain condition's that's why yuta said "when he's worked up he's stronger than i am" instead of saying "yeah he's stronger than me" basically Hakari has to hit 2 Jackpots to beat Yuta
I don’t think Hakari has better CE manipulation. All we know is that his Ce comes with a trait that causes it to resemble a bat with razor wire on it. Outside of that his best feats have been in jackpot where it’s impossible to tell whether his Ce manipulation is definitely better because he’s just got infinite CE.
Also that’s all we’ve seen in Yuta’s duffel bag. All abilities we already knew he had. I severely doubt those abilities are all that he’s got, it would be a negligent use of mimicry if you ask me.
I think Hakari can win under the right conditions, but I’d think Yuta would win more consistently.
@@Insidious-K I know about it but the feats Hakari has pulled off is INSANE like blowing the Curse Energy out of his nose WHILE HEALING HIS BRAIN 🤯 that feat is insane and I don't think Yuta ever replicated anything close to that
I agree he probably has more abilities but given the fact he only had Curse Speech by Culling Games then only copied the stuff in Sendai. It seems he either rarely copies Technique's, The people or Curses he fought before weren't worth copying, He genuinely didn't get anything after zero or only got stuff in Sendai since his combatants were worth copying either way I think he probably has more abilities but I doubt it
I think Yuta loses more than he wins like Hakari wins 7/10 but Yuta wins 3/10 unless Yuta goes all out off RIP I don't see him winning and even if he did I doubt he would win since if he doesn't it turns into a game of stamina which Yuta will lose since Hakari can effectively loop jackpots atleast 10 times and Hakari knows of Yuta so he already will have counters for some abilities but I do agree Hakari only wins under certain conditions
@@SilentAgression1Tillion well in Sendai Yuta never used anything we didn’t already know he had. My guess is to keep his bag a secret from spectators. All the abilities he used were ones that he’d obtained on the spot (I.E Dhruv’s shikigami and Uro’s sky manipulation) and abilities Kenjaku would already know he has (Cursed speech).
As far as the fight goes, Hakari’s win condition isn’t exactly consistent. Base to base Yuta’s pretty objectively stronger than base Hakari. Hakari would need chain jackpots to win. If Hakari isn’t lucky he just flat out loses.
It’s also worth noting that Yuta would have a much easier time planning around Hakari than the opposite.
The reinforcement statement is a little “far fetched”. Yuta was straight up catching Full Powered Granite casually in base. Ryu has the Highest Output in the culling games, even Sukuna had to blitz him and aim for the head to stop it. Yuta was also tanking Kurorushi, Uro, and Ryu back to back to back. Ryu also describes Yutas durability as a “water tank” so take that as you may.
Bro pulling number out of his ass 😭😭💀💀
From what I understand, as long as it's a death battle Hakari will keep on hitting jackpots as he did with Kashimo. So as long as gege doesn't make him unlucky, Hakari wins. Even if he doesn't get a jackpot he has his ways of keeping himself to minimum damage (either pseudo spins or some fast binding vow). The only unknown parameter that might favor Yuta is his domain expansion which we haven't seen yet.
People underestimate jackpot the domain is stacked in the favor of him hitting it once it get rolling all the bonus and stuff make the chance at hitting a 2nd one very high the only real way to kill Hikari is by immobilizing him so he can't DE and gasses out or one shotting him. Yuta might be able to do the first but I don't think he strong enough to do the 2nd
249 confirms that yuta is on another level than hakari is. Base Yuta without rika beats Jackpot hakari 8.5/10 times.
I think hakari lacks the attack power that Yuta does. If Hakari doesn't land a jackpot he's much less of a threat. Ik that the details of his domain expansion has a method for him to get around not landing a jackpot but still.
I'm personally partial to the consecutive Jackpots idea, because on a roll literally means a streak of luck, so wouldn't that mean consecutive Jackpots?
When Yuta says Hakari is stronger, he may not necessarily be imagining a scenario where they're fighting each other, just that if you put them side by side on a chart, over time Hakari would preform better and be stronger than Yuta, due to his cursed energy being finite.
And if you wanna be able to consider all character statements, this interpretation could mean Maki wasn't lying or praising Yuta, but she just misunderstood Yuta's condition of the statement, being Hakari is on a roll.
The statement "unnatural ability" is translated by John Werry (the worst translator in JJk history) so....
One major thing everyone miss in this fight. When Yuta is talked about it’s just him not Rika too. Yuta ability Yuta amount of cursed energy. Hakari is stronger than Yuta alone while he in Jackpot not Yuta and Rika.
Remember the difference of Geto w/o Rika and if he would have got Rika low percent defeat Gojo to 99% chance to defeat Gojo.
All RUclipsrs miss this important point I believe
that literally makes no sense and is never stated that yuta does not count rika as his own power
@@strykeralpha9650ya it does that’s y kenjaku even underestimated yuta
Im reading the comments and alot of people are forgetting three things.
1. When gojo was sealed why didnt he mention hakari to kenjaku and only yuta.
2. Hakari has to fight Rika and yuta at the same time. And rika literally is as tough as yuta.
3. Yuta has a domain. Theres nothing stopping yuta from just waiting out the jackpot.(something kashimo did without rct multiple times) and using a domian with rika there as well. Hakari has no answer for that
He mentioned yuta because he was taunting him on who beat his ass last time. And because hakari is not working with jujutsu society so he would likely never be in contact with kenjaku unless yuta already took an L
Hikari is stronger because I like him more
I respect it.
Haven’t watched the video yet, but no. The answer is no.
I think its possible we havent seen Hakari on a roll yet ngl. Guess we'll see in the Uraume fight
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I think yuta is right when he’s on a roll or worked up , as even if yuta is stronger which his abilities should give him a good advantage his timer is only 5mijs and hakari will just keep re rolling domain over and over and over and he’ll be in jackpot when yuta is in base and win
Not really hakari can’t do anything against sky manipulation and yuta can most definitely kill him in those 5 mins and also don’t forget it’s a 2v1 with rika helping
@@imgaybut3430 Yuta didn't have sky manipulation when he gave that statement. He got it during the Culling Games.
0:50 why do I only realize now that this page was a YuGiOh Bandit Keith reference
What’s hakari doing if yuta keeps redirecting his punches at himself?
I agree they’re close now but IMO Yuta has more potential and a higher ceiling than Hakari so by EOS…
its weird to me people use the megumi state,ent when the phrasing of it makes it very clear that hes never actually met hakri let alone seen him fight
Are we just going to ignore that Yuta can force a domain clash therefore nullifying the chance of getting a jackpot after the first attempt.
Hakari has advantages in a domain clash anyways so theirs a chance he just overpowers him and burns out yutas technique. And even if he cant get rid of it completely jackpot is not a sure hit. So as far we know it could still function reguardless
It's all super circumstantial imo.
Like Yuta is clearly way stronger than Hikari. He's able to use other people's abilities, has insane reverse cursed technique regen, and is partnered up with probably the strongest curse spirit there is aside from Sukuna. The man is incredibly stacked with stuff like cursed speech, the orbital domains, and sky manipulation that he's picked up. And those are only the things we know he's taken. The fight is over unless Hikari IMMEDIATLY gets into Jackpot, and that's assuming Yuta can't just over power Hikari's domain in a tug of war between the two.
IF Hikari gets into Jackpot though he can probably squeak out a win, but it'd still be a pretty extreme dif battle for him.
I think the most important thing here is to just accept that they're both strong af. Yuta is already a Special Grade, but Hikari should also be considered one at this point in time due to the absurdity of his domain. If Gege didn't hate the fanbase and vice-versa, we'd end up having a ton of special grades at the end of the series with monsters like Higuruma and Takeda with absurd abilities that could sweep both Yuta and Hikari if they had time to grow into their abilities more.
The one thing i consider to be a Major downside to Hakari is that he *can't* use RCT at will. He uses it instinctively while in jackpot because of the infinite CE, but outside of Jackpot he can't just use it whenever he wants. He technically doesn't know how RCT works.
Yuta beats hakari mid diff honestly and love both of them but yuta just has too much in his bag
Not likely
cmon bro... non manifested rika is enough for jp hakari
They are relative, but yuta is stronger. Yuta would win 7/10 fights.
We haven’t seen enough from them to determine that.
Yuta has the bigger arsenal - more ways to attack/defend
Hakari has the better overall defense by a long shot. His automatic RCT is incredibly broken. Yuta’s manifestation of Rika lasts only 5 minutes.
Hakari’s jackpot last 4:11. That means there’s 49 seconds Yuta has to finish off Hakari, assuming Hakari doesn’t spam another domain/jackpot.
IF Hakari lands just 2 jackpots, Hakari has about another 4 minutes of automatic RCT against Yuta, while Yuta has to wait for Rika to recharge.
Another unknown factor: we have yet to see Yuta’s domain. We don’t know how it works so it’s hard to gauge how it would fare against Hakari, but Yuta would likely need to cast his domain while Hakari does not have a jackpot.
The only other problem for Yuta is….. based on what we know about domains, it’s very likely that Hakari can overpower Yuta’s domain.
Meaning…. Yuta’s best chance at defeating Hakari would have to be after Hakari fails to get a jackpot and his domain has to recharge.
But we have yet to see that happen as it almost seems like Hakari’s domain is rigged to guarantee a jackpot lol
I feel like gege shouldnt have made yuta say "hes even stronger than me" cuz i feel thats blatantly untrue i feel he shouldve made yuta say "when hes on a roll _he_ _could_ _even_ _defeat_ _me_ " its more accurate and gets a similar point across
I must agree with you.
Yuta is probably Above hakari, but not by much. In a '5 matches 1v1' any of them could beat the other, and it'd most likely be a 3-2.
Each has their Pros & and cons, but surely we CAN'T UNDERESTIMATE them.
Lately, I've been seeing people commenting on hakari's potential L against Uraume.
Hell! Hakari might even be the only one capable of withstanding Sukuna's World Cleaves.
Uraume said hakari only surpasses sukuna and gojo in healing. But doesn't he surpasses them in CE capacity?
for sukuna yes but for gojo the six eyes is competitive but still yes
My issue with the statement of hakari being stronger than yuta is that hakari hasn’t shown anything in his artillery that shows he’s stronger than yuta
Idle death gamble
@@mattc4266 literally does nothing to actually hurt yuta
@@makeouthill5534 yes it does you just don’t understand his domain just like half the fanbase lolll.
@@jpnoir4807this comment brings nothing to the table if you’re gonna argue at least have some evidence
@@zinxxo7202 lmao right… guy just saying stuff😂
I don't think two jackpot is enough to gas yuta out as hakari doesn't have anything that hits as hard as what he took on sendai so he'll be able to last longer i don't know if yutas domain was revealed when this video was made but that can also sway the battle in yitas favor i do think it is a close match with yuta winning 6-7/10 times
tbh I never took Yuta's statement as him saying "Hakari is stronger", because Hakari CLEARLY isn't. I think what he meant to say is, "when Hakari has jackpot, he can beat me". Which isn't the same as Hakari being stronger than Yuta, because a weaker person can beat a stronger person. It's definitely possible Hakari and Yuta fought before (with or without Rika) and Hakari eked out a win by outlasting Yuta's cursed energy reserves (which is difficult, but as we saw in his fight with Ryu, not impossible).
saying thats hakari dont get a up in status when he is in jackpot is crazy bruh.
yuta is stronger in general, but hakari is stringer when hes in a jackpot, so yuta is the second to gojo via his consistence
There’s nothing rlly that implies yuta is on par with jackpot hakari in terms of stats. My evidence is yuta v yuji, or the sandai colony where he’s just keeping up with fighters significantly slower than base kashimo. Maybe he’s on par in terms of power, but not speed. However again, I don’t think the “worked up” or “on a roll” statement is specifically just 2 jackpots in a row. Hakari has a different mindset than every modern day sorcerer and before ppl use the statements mentioning sorcerers, or the jujutsu high fighting force, remember that hakari is not a student, and never graduated so he isn’t a sorcerer. He doesn’t have a rank, and isn’t part of the school. The jujutsu high fighting force one is debatable I suppose, and u can involve it, but at the same time it doesn’t change the big picture. In hakari’s jackpot, yuta doesn’t rlly have anything he can do except a domain expansion. Even using his copied techniques, hakari can outspeed something like air manipulation. He has infinite cursed energy so he is protected from cursed speech. The shikigami would be basically just toys to him. Roma’s eye laser isn’t as strong as ryu’s granite blast, and yuta was blocking that with his hands so it’s not taking off hakari’s head. During jackpot, yuta would have to be on the defensive. Outside of it however, yuta would be dominating the fight in terms of abilities. However, the whole 0.2 second domain thing is the amount of time that the domain is cast, not the amount of time it takes to cast. The statement to my knowledge is that hakari’s domain is cast as fast as mahito’s, which he can do extremely quickly because he can just grow limbs to do it near instantly, but not in 0.2 seconds respectively. Meaning his cast time is superior to yuta’s, and his domain is good in tug of wars so would likely beat yuta’s if they clashed because the same is never brought up about yuta’s. Yuta however has the ability to capitalize on the break between jackpots much better than kashimo with the multitude of other abilities he has. I think that hakari wins 1/2 of the time, and they really are equal. This is because of their mindsets. Yuta is calculated and reserved while hakari is brash and engaged. Hakari has more potential to grow than yuta as stated when uraume says that hakari is different than all other sorcerers. His mindset is completely different in that as has been brought up, always bet on hakari. Hakari is more likely to make that split second decision much faster than yuta, but yuta is more likely to have thought of a counter to potential split second decisions before the decisions are even made. Neither are dumb by any means, but they think completely differently, and what hakari lacks in planning, he makes up for in cognitive speed. And vice versa. The only time hakari planned in his fight with Kashimo was putting him over the water. Meanwhile yuta was constantly planning the whole time on keeping his rct a secret, and holding rika back, and not revealing his true technique until it gave him a severe advantage in the battle. However hakari constantly made split second decisions with increasing speed when running low on time, and instantly expelling the CE from the lighting to his face, and making a binding vow to protect himself at the cost of his arm. Yuta however only made split second decisions when using positive energy to kill kurorushi when backed into a corner in base, or clashing his domain with the other 2 fighters. I don’t think it’s as simple as who would win because they’re both growing in different ways, and both have skills that the other lacks in.
"Unusual abilities" why are people having hard time understanding that? He was considered to have unusual abilities because of his mimicry ability, he has a massive skill set that was seen in the panel where rika asked yuta what would he like to use, it was called "unusual abilities" is because it was never seen in the history having a dude that used curse speech and sky manipulation consecutively
Yuta is obviously stronger than hakari both strength wise and speed wise and i dont know if hakari opened his domain i doubt yuta wouldnt do a domain clash which is found yuta being above since hakari's domain is offensive and i believe that yuta's is since he tried to do a triple domain clash just saying🤷♂️
Narrator : Second only to Satoru Gojo….
Can you do megumi vs yuta 🙏
Tbh Maki, Hakari, and Yuta are all three sorcerers that arent far over each other as Heavy Hitters. Maki being the fastest, Hakari being probably the strongest, and Yuta being the most strategic and more intelligent in battle while also having the most powerful hax in the group.
Maki is a direct counter to(speed feats) Hakari, Yuta being a direct counter to Maki(Hax) and Hakari being a counter to Yuta(Stamina).
That’s a reach. Maki can’t really hang with the other two and Yuta is established as the second strongest by the narrator
@@gaiusx287 tf you mean she cant? She can litteraly one shot hakari dont even fucking start bruh
I would say in the culling games arc jp hakari was stronger than sendai yuta but rn in Shinjuku I'd say they're relative but yuta would have the edge due to him having future sight and cleave and dismantle
It’s pretty clear yuta in base is stronger than hakari in base, but the question is whether hakari can hold on until he gets a jackpot the first time and each time the domain ends if he doesn’t win in the interim
In the latest chapter Sukuna called the brat possed by the curse spirit (Yuta) his main dish.
Also Yuta can stall out a Jackpot from Hakari with RCT then hit the connection with Rika that would recharge his CE and have 5 minutes that would outlast Hakari even if he hits a 2nd jackpot. Only way here is Hakari hits a 3rd Jackpot, but we're talking about lower probability.
Yuta takes this fight 8 out of 10 times
I think sukuna was referring to Yuji when he called him his main dish.
In an official duel, it is in arguable that Hakari would win by default. Yuta gets DQ’d for not showing up on time.
Hakari can't beat mahoraga under any circumstances. Yuta at minimum got win cons. End of debate .
by that logic, teen geto is stronger than them cause he has so many MORE win cons 💀💀💀
Can base yuta fight jackpot hakari like kashimo? Not win but keep up?
yuta is way weaker than kashimo and Im not even gonna say anything else
@@sr-ekiller9565No, Kashimo doesn't even come close to Yuta without his CT.
@@sr-ekiller9565 This didnt age well
Thumbs up to hakari fans for sticking with their agenda but still be open minded and recognizing Yuta as a G, not their G, but still strong.
I think by the end of the series each one of his students will be better than Gojo in ONE thing. The point of Gojo nurturing these students was so NO ONE ends up like him again. There is no replacement for Gojo nor does there have to be. They will all play their role and pass Gojo in at least ONE thing by using Gojo as a reference to overcome. It is pointless to argue who is the "stronger". They all equal OR surpass Gojo in 1 thing.
Yuta with "Unusual Abilities"
Hakari with "RCT or healing"
To Be Continued...
I also think it is incredible hard to compare hakari or gojo to anybody
They are not normal, and you cannot win under normal conditions, doesn't matter how strong you are.
FP Yuta + Fully Manifested Rika > Jackpot Hakari > Fully Manifested Rika or FP Yuta on their own.
This ranking is in terms of pure stats btw, in reality I think Base Yuta with Partially Manifested Rika can beat Hakari... Idk how this is even still a debate really xd
How would the ice girl know hakari healing surpass gojo if she never encounter with gojo herself ? Meaning she don’t really know how fast or strong gojo healing is
Not after chapter 149
Doesnt hakaris domain expansion literally make you follow his rules until the game is over? Yuta would not be able to attack hakari during his domain right?
>"I dont think that statements saying hakari beats yuta when on a role are convincing"
>" I do think hakari can beat yuta when hes on a roll"
Yuta second only to gojo in technique and second only to sakuna in ce and rct. More utility, and yuta has fought currently stronger opponents
I'm definitely biased towards Yuta, but he has both favor within the narrative, and generally superior feats. Hakari definitely has superior regenerative abilities and a domain that would likely win the domain war (unless Yuta's domain is a Copy based domain). He also barely won a fight against a guy that was more powerful than him even though Kashimo didn't use his CT obviously and Hakari himself was holding back, and he suppressed Kashimo's lightning shot to his own head with RCT. But Yuta beat a prepared Suguru Geto who was holding back as a first year, then washed Yuji low-diff in the most suppressed state we've ever seen him in, then no-diffed Dhruv in his own domain. Then proceeded to low-mid-diff Kuroroushi, then went on to fight two separate sorcerers who were both low-end relative to himself physically with an insane CT and maybe the highest CE output in history (probably second to Heian era Sukuna) respectively, while holding back. Then snuck Kenjaku. Yuta also has Copy technique, Cursed Speech (which might be ineffective at this level), Sky Manipulation which is insane, Dhruv's barrier and shikigami, and Rika who's relative to him and can shoot lasers. Plus who knows what other techniques and cursed tools he's got now. Yuta is more versatile for sure.
If Yuta and Hakari teamed up against Sukuna, do they take the W or L? Feel free to throw Maki in there too
Im betting on the heavy hitters 😈
This topic is dumb, it's been implied and stated countless times (Yes even in Shinjuku and by gojo himself) that both Hakari and Yuta are equal, rivals. Hakari is physically superior while Yuta has all of his technique and whatever. This fight is as 50/50 as a fight gets, either Yuta kills Hakari quickly in one lucky hit ir Yuta starts losing output and therefore loses. Comparing the 2 in a fight is pointless, it's a literal luck based fight.
Maki literally said “that’s not true “ meaning that she knows how strong Yuta is and knows he holds back most of the time Yuta > hakari any day stop the down play
I wonder if Hakari has black flash
Don't move : yuta
Starts beat boxing
So can't Akari beat sakuna because his unlimited domain