The 7 string tuning you HAVE to try! This is Why You Suck at Guitar Lesson Seven
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Hey kids!!!! Its Uncle Ben Eller, back with a brand new installment of This is Why You Suck at Guitar!!!
Like many other 6 string players, i had a little period where i had trouble really bonding with my 7 string guitar, because none of the chord or scale shapes i learned worked when transferred to the low strings. This was a real buzzkill for me, and limited my creativity to bludgeoning power chords and single notes on my low B/A, much like a child might do.
Until the fateful day when i stumbled across this tuning, which effectively turns your seven string guitar into a baritone tuned 6 PLUS an additional high string! It's like the "extra" string is on the high side rather than the low side.
This means ALL standard 6 string chord and scale shapes now suddenly work on the bottom 6 strings, now in glorious baritone register! Very very cool stuff.
In this lesson, you'll learn all about my B E A D Gb/F# B e tuning, how to use it, how chords work on it, how scale patterns work on it, and how you can use it to influence others and make friends.
I think once you get your fingers around this tuning, you're going to have a blast with it and come up with some really cool music! Leave me a comment and let me know how you like it.
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Just watched the whole video and I don't even have 7 string.
Just watched the whole video and I don't even have a guitar.
Don't buy one, if you want that low string just go for baritone guitar or turn you guitar into one.
***** i have 7 string guitar so i know what i'm talking about, unless you're a shredder you don't need that high string. and it feels bad to play standart tuning songs on 7 string, keeping it 6 strings is an easier way of doing things without ever getting confused. just have two 6 strings guitar, one for lower tunings one for standart and you're good to go. 7 string is ok if you write and play your own songs but horrible for practicing other songs.
I disagree. I have a 7 string and getting confused is not even a problem once you get used to it. There's absolutely no downside in playing a 7 string instead of a 6 string.
aThrasheR damping strings are harder, and it's bad for playing 6 string songs. imo it's not worth having that extra string. i regret buying one.
that korn comment got me good lol
Hahahahaha I instantly had to rewind that and here it again then it got me asking myself which song was it lol
Saaaaaame
Been playing guitar for 25+ years, got my 1st 7 string in '96, and this BLATANTLY OBVIOUS tuning never occurred to me. Pure, unbridled freaken GENIUS, thanks a metric ton for sharing: Even if you choose to ignore the high E, muting the 1st string in chords is sooo much less awkward than trying to constantly kill off the 7th string with your thumb. Happy hols, Uncle Ben! I'll be re-learning my 7 string the next coupla days...
Christoph Rauch cheers dude, have fun!!!
Hey, right on, cause when Barring, there's less strength at the "Skinny" end, than the "Fat" end. Good call. gb bg
I have a secret tuning for you....
I came up with it about 2 years ago and I have NEVER heard it before the day me and a really hot 5 foot blond slut were sitting in my living room chilling at 3am...... I owe it to her and her listening ear when my B on my 7 had become slack because it was not left in tune....
I start with no tension on the B or 7th
Go to drop D on the other 6
Slowly tune the 7 up till it hits the first supper
Low harmonic D..... I only give you this knowledge because you said you've been playing for 25 years well so have I at the time that I read this comment Granite now you've been playing 29 years now check me out on bandlab Martyrs in the Kingdom the music is in this tuning
Now you can play songs in B Standard Tuning like "Here Comes the Sun" by the Beatles
- What Korn song is that?
- All of them.
Yes, but also, Shoots & Ladders lol
LMAO!
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E x a c t l y
Well except for that dubstep album
You sir, are a baby genius.
Chris Zoupa big fan keep it up
and you sir Chris is a legend. im huge fan of both u n Ben's videos , keep up the good work
And ur a god
I have a congenital condition from birth called "shoulder dysplasia". It makes wiping especially difficult.
This is MY ailment. You wouldn't laugh at someone in a wheel chair, you wouldn't tease a blind man with his walking stick, and you certainly shouldn't say "F^%k you" to someone with congenital shoulder dysplasia .
+Chris Zoupa (Learn That Solo) Chris the guitar wizard who plays awesomely without a pick, I'm always amazed that you don't use one man, it looks so easy when you do it
An old band I was in had 2 guitarists and we played in 2 different tunings. They both had 6-strings for Drop-Bb. When we played in Drop-A, however, one guy had a 7-string tuned AEADGBE, the other had a 6-string tuned AEADF#B. They had to spend some time working out chord inversions and harmonies, but they made it work reall well.
don't mind me, i'm just watching this video while i don't even know one single fucking chord on a regular 6-string.
i cant unhere the funky congo drum beat you got lurcking in the back of this video
Great vid. One last idea. Place a capo on the 5th fret. And then ...
Bob Greaves instant shortcut 7 string soprano tuning!
I've done that and your tuning, they're awesome!
Bob Greave
Bob Greaves, You had the guts to say what I first thought, Har! Ya think a 12st Capo would cover one of these, or is it time to resurrect the old Pencil, and Rubber Band? LOL! Gb bg
but capos don't djent
This is exactly what I do when I don't want to keep my six-string in standard B. When I play Type-O-Negative covers (or other bands that use B standard) on my 7-string, I use the tuning you mention. It really does make a difference.
Type-O-Negative uses Baritone Guitars.
Sean Flaharty it turns out that those Baritone Tuning strings are kinda thick & that might mess up your 6 String Guitar hardware making it hard to go back to E standard tuning.
This tuning really eliminates the need to re-string one of your 6 string guitars with really thick strings for B Standard Tuning.
@@RockStarOscarStern634 Early on they didn't. I had a conversation with Kenny about the tuning. He said they had to adjust the necks of his guitars for the thicker strings and tension but mainly he used "normal" guitars.
@@RockStarOscarStern634 While this could be true, I also use my 7-sting for learning Estandard songs (just on the A-string), with no intention of putting my 6-string back to E-standard. I mainly use it for B standard and D standard songs. When I decide to drop tune any songs, I just do that on my 7-string. I have been keeping one of my 7's in A standard and dropping the second thickest string down to C. It's kind of strange at first to learn songs in drop tuning, not using the A or B strings (depending on the tuning) but I found it sounds better than using my 6s for those tunings. I also play upside down and backwards (just flipping a right hand guitar over with no alterations) so I am all shades of strange. Lol.
Just got a seven string for Christmas, ready for this now!
Lucky, i wanted one😅👍
@@mavisashbluff That awsome tuning which involves tuning the G down a half step to F sharp makes it easier to switch from 6 strings to 7 strings.
I think the korn song you were looking for was "all of them."
Lucas LeCompte yeah, that's it!!!
Oh man did I feel stupid when I caught myself starting to google that song name...
Francis Ducharme damn same. Was hoping to find a new song wondering "why does this guy feel stupid googling it". Then it hit me.
Ben Eller nah it's "me loco" by coal chamber!
@@BenEller I love the 7 String Guitar, this alternative tuning which is Bari-Guitar w/ a High E tuning allows us to take every Chord & Scale Shape we know & move up a String meaning that we're going down a Fourth & it'll sound a fourth lower just like a Bari-Guitar.
I've actually done the very same thing, only I tuned the guitar Up to C standard with an added F string! Worked really well with a set of 10s.
Uh the high E might snap so I'd suggest B standard with a High E & just put a capo on fret one cause it might reduce the tension.
My brain couldn't handle watching you play those cowboy chords and hearing a completely different chord. Mind blown definently will be using this tuning, thanks brother!
Such a nice swirl on that 7 string.
higler420 thanks!
Ben Eller I love your hammered metal finishes. Rusty and cool!
@@BenEller They're beautiful, that Baritone tuning turns it into a 6 string Baritone guitar with a high E. You and your future rock Guitar Chorus can take all chord and scale shapes, move them up a string and they'll work. It'll sound a perfect fourth lower like it does on a Bari Guitar.
@@BenEller That whole chorus of colorful 7 string electric guitars will really make your guitar chorus happy. That alternative tuning which has the G tuned down a half step to F sharp will allow you and your guitar chorus to play songs in the Booming Bari Register which they may find them easier to sing in that lower key.
Songs with this Tuning being played: 4:36 House of the Bari-Sun 4:55 Bari-way to heaven, 5:03 Sweet Home Baribama, 5:08 Bari in Black, 5:19 Bari-Bourrée in B minor. Everything with this new tuning for 7 string (just go up a string when using it) will feel the same like it did w/ a normal 6 string it'll just sound a perfect fourth lower just like it does on a Baritone Guitar.
Thank you for stating exactly what was said in the video. Trying to take his limelight away.
@@GypsyDanger514 This tuning is basically like that of a Baritone Renaissance Lute in E which is a bit uncommon but interesting.
Damn... I feel like I need a 7 string guitar now!
L Galicki sams lol
dude they are awesome. i hated them for a year until i heard things like Twelve Foot Ninja :) now i've had 3
Holy shit, I actually knew one of the tips already. I always had to do this for Carcass and stuff. Realised it actually makes it easier to have a 6 string B guitar with an extra high string than a E tuned 6 string with a low B.
This makes it easier to switch from 6 to 7 strings.
This tuning is actually the same as a Baritone Renaissance Lute in E, almost like taking your 7 Course Renaissance lute in E & tuning all the strings down a Minor Third. Or a 7 String Baritone Viol in E which would be a 7 String D Bass Viol tuned up a Step w/ Slightly thinner strings. Defiantly a Throwback to the past.
You can even play songs that are written in B Standard Tuning such as "Stay or Leave" by Dave Matthews or my favorite one "Here Comes the Sun" by the Beatles.
THANK YOU! Seriously, this video just changed my world, bro - cheers. Very much appreciate you and your channel, Uncle Ben. I’ve learned more from you than any other channel on RUclips, man. THANK YOU.
Ok, I've been playing 7 string for almost 17 years, and wow. Just wow. This changes everything. The chord and scales were always the struggle, and this takes all of that and makes it make sense. Thank you.
By putting a capo on Fret 3 I was able to sing & play Flow my Tears by John Downland so it's actually 7 Course Renaissance Lute Tuning (Baritone Guitar + High E) down a Minor Third. It's actually the oldest tuning ever used.
Yeah, that's cool! Now I want a 7string ^^"
Rayene Boussetta, nope
Rine The Nightcrying Demon this video literally changed ma life before I was like yeah it's juste kids make open with there extra 7 string yeah dimebag say if you need a 7 string guitar to sound heavy your riffs sucks but I realise know dude there so many possibilities I need to buy a 7 string
Thanks, definitely makes sense. Gonna try it.
yeah I love ur channel very cool of you to share ur knowledge thank you!
Question - are you a fan of Ibanez RGs??
Seems like Ibanez RGs are fans of Uncle Ben.
Nah I think he’s more into Fender or squier
He's the jesus of ibanesus
OMG this is amazing!!!
Thanx for the technique uncle Ben!!!!! love em
Very cool! I'll definitely give this a try! Thanks!
I've had my 7 tuned like this for a long while. It's such a breath of fresh air, even by just the half step change
Now you can play Stay or Leave
You can even play Here Comes the Sun by the Beatles.
Thank you, I have a new Schecter KM 7 FR-S in Lambo Blue on the way (my first 7) and was looking to brush up before it gets here. Great advice! I am very excited!
Ok so I played it the day I got it last Tuesday 11 days ago, and I used your tuning. It was amazing. I haven't played since because my shoulder has been hurting so bad after playing for almost six hours standing up oops... Thanks again
I love little innovations like this. Thanks!
This video helped immensely! Thank you!
9:58 This tuning is also ideal for covering songs by bands that tune to B Standard without having to string one of your 6 String Guitars up with really thick strings.
Even Type O Negative too.
@@ryanrooprai5104 And Dave Matthews for songs like Stay or Leave
@@ryanrooprai5104 Also you can play Here Comes the Sun by the Beatles.
A D A D G B E is another fun tuning to experiment with
Jordan C Crossfade tuning
I made a song for my band, Spirotin, titled "Celestial Oceans" using that tuning. ;) \m/
what about adadada
Just a double drop tunning. I love it
Jordan C isn't that drop d but with an extra A
Great idea. Very helpful. Thanks!
Great video! Thanks for the tuning
5:18 Can't you see he's the man. Let me hear you applaud. He's more than a man he's a SHINY GOLDEN GOD.
Laughed so hard at "what Korn song was that?" 😂
Literally about to make his same post
Great video Ben, thank you!
I usually avoid alternate tunings, but this one is definitely an exception! He gives a really thorough explanation, covering nearly all the bases and provides more than enough info to get a good start. This is one of those for the "I wish I'd seen this sooner" file…
Korn song sounded like A.D.I.D.A.S, i love that song in every way. Also thanks for the video, I recently got an RG7321 for $100 (That's Australian dollar too, absolute bargain). Only issue is that im so unmotivated to play, ive been practicing Lucretia solo for what feels like an eternity since i just can't bring myself to practice it properly :( I want what ever drug Brandon Ellis took to play guitar so well lol.
Lucretia is a masterpiece. Some straight up crazy notes that are hard to tell exactly what young Friedman was doing. Dig that pick in hard and invert your right hand till you look broken...give your wrist another half twist, and bust out 1.5 step bends with some juicy rakes on top. No problem.
Friedman is amazing, and yeah his right hand is so twisted when he plays lol. Those bends though, you know it's him when you hear those bends no matter what song he is playing.
If you bought a 100 dollar 7 string guitar, your unmotivated to play and are trying to play intermediate to expert level like lucretia instead of what you REALLY like (KORN) and think drugs give people magic powers to play guitar your either a MAJOR poser, a beginner (which is fine) or not realy a guitar player or ever want to be....I really hope you actually have a decent guitar or two and the cheap 7 splurge was just because it was so cheap. Ill give you a tip ok, learn the rhythms, fills and harmonies ONLY to lets say, Megadeth Peace Sells ENTIRE ALBUM without learning any solos. Play it everyday along with the album as a warm up for 6 months and you will be WAY better as a player because it will build strength control and hand eye coordination. of course after you learn the all the rythems you can learn other things but keep it as a mainstay and you will have something to do and gain a real sense of accomplishment 👍👍👍👍👍
More liked "Shoots and Ladders" because A.D.I.D.A.S is played on highest octaves. "Shoots" sound like that more but A.D.I.D.A.S too :D
finally someone who isn't talking shit and actually helps on yt comments
rock on man \m/
9:58 This tuning is also ideal for Covering songs by bands that tune down a Fourth to B Standard, this way you don't have to put insanely big strings on one of your 6 String Guitars.
Awesome as ALWAYS ! Thanx brother !
This is freaking brilliant!! Thank You!!
I've always tuned my seven string this way since a few days after I got it. One of my six strings I had some extremely light gauge strings on it that sounded plain awful in E standard. I raised the pitch of each string by 5 semitones, and I really enjoyed the result! I liked it so much that I sort of forgot about my seven string for a couple weeks, and honestly I think she's still mad at me for that xD
Yes Requinto Tuning
Hope you can do a video on modes perhaps, anyway thank you for the video!
Crossing the border is harder now for "Mixolydians", even if they are 'Dreamers'! Lol! Gb bg
Thank you very much for this video! Really helped me!!
Brilliant find Uncle Ben!
Another fun one is to just drop the B down to A. You get wicked low dropped tuning, and a standard E concert guitar. Also, many bar grips will just have an extra low octave. Great for metal.
Yea I love drop a
That really helped! I wish I would've thought about that. Thank you so much, Ben. :)
Unbelievable! It works and it's great. Thanks B.E.
wow! this actually makes me wanna buy a 7 string guitar!
Wait is Bourree really a Guitar Center classic now? I've played that almost every time I'm in there xD
Life-changing. Thanks!
This is the tuning that lute players use.
Yeah it makes the transition from 6 to 7 strings easier for all rock guitar choirs who want to sing in a lower key.
That's the 7 String Version, & you could use it for Dave Matthews Band songs cause they're in B Standard.
In Hearts Wake does this. Glad i knew it already! Still a good tip though!
This is exactly what I needed. I just bought my first 7-string, and ran into the same issue with a 'disgusting sound'. Thanks for the direction, my friend.
Dude you kick ass! I was just playing on a super nice 7 string that's sale right now and I wasn't digging it but now I think I'm going to go back and get it. Thanks bro!
I actually just got a sweet new 7, so I'll have to give this a whirl 👍
I don't even own a 7 string... why am I watching this
Captivating, ain't it?
Do you own one now?
I dont even play guitar
@@chazi2106 mhm
Because you've been wanting one haven't you?
Sweet vid. Thanks for the tips dude.
KILLER VIDEO!!! Thank you for sharing this tuning method!!! Extremely helpful!
Hello Uncle Ben, I just got my first 7 string and I've been playing 6 string so long. Looking for any tips I can. This is all really great stuff you've covered!
it was so funny when u had to clarify not knowing the tuning doesn't makes u suck
Well it makes you better
Great video. Thanks!
Great idea. Great video
wow the fact that I just got my 7 about three days ago 😂 lol
I like being in drop AND standard at the same time on a 7
So like drop G# and D# standard (Eb)
This guy knows what's up
This actually really helped on a project I’m working on Uncle B! Thanx!
love your videos, you are an amazing teacher and have a really cool sense of humor that makes the videos not feel like lessons. I'm an Ibanez junkie too so looking at a wall of them doesn't hurt either, the 7 string swirl in this video is badass. thanks for sharing your vast stringular knowledge.
I would love to try Korn's signature tuning: A, D, G, C, F, A, D (low to high).
It's aka Whole Step down tuning which might make it easier to sing.
That's basically D Standard plus Low A for 7 String Guitar. Lots of Bands tune down a step to make the high notes easier on the Voice.
It's just A standard for 7's. Most Korn songs are easier to play in drop A.
I thought it was A D I D A S
Does it djent though?
I have used this tuning ever since I was ten minutes into my first 7 string years ago and never looked back. I would tell others to give it a try and I am glad to see that you have posted this vid. Thanks
You can now play "Here Comes the Sun" by the Beatles in the Original Key
Love it, thx dude
Hey Ben, Thanks for the video, it's a different perspective for sure! I've played 7 strings for years, but what I did to alleviate the weirdness is I dropped the bottom string to A, and changed nothing else. I do 5th string 7 string full chords, and play the rest of the guitar like it's normal. Have you tried this method, or are you now too comfortable with the flat 3rd string method?
This is what I'm doing too.
I as well. My logic is, you have 2 guitars in one.
Ben, my piss poor finger style technique is bringing a cloud of shame upon my family. Neither my dad, nor my step-dad are willing to speak to me. If you have the time, could you tell me why I suck? I'd just like for my dad (and step-dad I guess) to acknowledge my existence, and to be able to hang out in the acoustic section of Guitar Center without being laughed away. :-(
Charmin Ultra Soft get good
What an excellent yet simple solution! Thanks 🤘🏻
I watched at least a dozen 7 string videos the last two days and yours is the only one that actually helped
"Now go ahead and play all those other GC bullshit classics." HAHAHA!
Sam Ash has 'Classics' as well? Ha!
do one of something like....... your wahmmy baring sucks cuz i got one and i have no idea what to do
Learn songs that use the whammy
Ty Stell yeah but when I try and use it ..it sounds like shit
Dude, look up for John Petrucci's "Whammy bar tricks", I'm sure it can give you a good idea of what to do with it ;)
Whatever you do don't just give up using it, once you learn how to use you'll have a blast!
I'd love to teach you myself but guess that's not really feasible :)
AFunnyMeme Hmmm, yeah that could work...
Super useful info! Thanks!
Great video. Thank you!
I've always tuned mine low E to high A.
I want to try this, but I don't know what gauge to get for the high string. I also have only one seven. Anywas, what gauge do you use?
@@josephbrandenburg4373 I thing Low B to High E might me safer
@@RockStarOscarStern634 Yeah. My 7's been tuned that way these past 3 years. Still haven't found strings to try tuning in fifths or adding a string above instead of one below. I can downtune it as low as I want, though.
100th Like.. is that a thing? Probably not. I'm off to shit the bed..
MASSIVE THANKS. YOU HELPED A LEFT-HANDED:
Long story short, I am left-handed. I was looking for Baritone guitars because of those warm low sounding full chords (like you played)! The left-handed baritones in the market are not high quality, and I cannot afford custom shop guitars. I was looking at 7 string guitars, but they didn't seem to solve the problem, I couldn't achieve those low sounding full chords, just because of the standard 7 string tuning people use for metal. After watching your video and seeing how easily I can tune my guitar to a baritone (with bonus of 1 high string for melodies) my search in market for left-handed baritone is swaped with left-handed 7 string. And surprisinngly, there are many high quality left-handed 7 strings in the market and I don't need to pay for customshop.
THEN, your video also inspired me to look at 8 string guitars. Now I am interested to buy an 8 string. Tune the 7 higher string according to you, and have a low F# for djent. Again, there are high quality left-handed guitars, like Schecter Banshee ELITE 8.
You opened a door to a whole new life for me. Thanks a lot!
Why are the Left-Handed Bari Guitars not at a High Quality? What shop where you on?
Turns out that the Lefty Baritone Guitars are in poor shape due to their construction that needs work.
This was a really helpful vid!
why not just tune a 6 string to b standart of your not using the high e anyway
I was wondering the same. The reason why I got a 7-string is because my 6-string is tuned to Eb-standard and I want to be able to play songs that are in E-Standard as well as some heavier and lower stuff. Whenever I want a Cminor or anything that's not possible with a E-standard 6-string, I play barre chords on my 7-string (you can get quite wicked dominant-7-add4-chords like this). The tuning in the video seems like a cool idea, but it makes playing some other chords extremely difficult, if not impossible at all. But that being said, needing several different tunings is a totally legit reason for getting more guitars. So if I get another 7-string, I might use this tuning on it. But for now, the change in the G-string would just take some getting-used-to, especially when soloing on the highest three strings.
This was my thought. I was thinking about getting a 7 string but then I realized that if I'm playing in a key signature that's centered around the B string (B, C, or D minor, etc.) then I wouldn't have much of a need for a high E. So I grabbed one of my brother's 6 string guitars and put it in B standard to go along with my E standard guitar. Those two tunings will cover pretty much any key or tuning you could want.
He is using the high e though. And this way, he needs one guitar instead of two. Although your having an extra guitar tuned to B is still a great idea.
This is basically what I did tbh; The high E would come in handy though, tbh, so if I had a 7-string this is the tuning I'd have used.
Its not easy to intonate a 6 string guitar thats tuned to B standard, especially if the guitar is a certain scale length. I know a lot of death metal bands have tuned 6 string guitars that low but it can be a headache. My Gibson Flying V absolutely hated being in B standard. Nothing but tuning problems and I could never get the lowest string intonated properly. A 7 string guitar is made for having that low string so its a good option for someone wanting to tune low, even if they don't plan on using the highest string.
what about an 8 string?
kRVRKV Gaming I was wondering about that too..
I already play a 12st, Ha!
And a 9 string too.
you actually do the same thing! The lowest string on an 8 is F#, which he is changing the third string from G to. Big brother meet little brother!
this just hit me like a sack of bricks. using the "big bro, meet lil bro" is my secret weapon to figure out open tunings, but i was wondering about 8's. since the low 8 is f#, it makes almost too much sense to drop the g down to f#! here's a like, cave digger.
Totally awesome thank you I just picked up a dean vendetta and this is very helpful
Thank you very much, awesome lesson 👍
I’m getting my first 7 string this week and as soon as I’m done chugga chuggin’ on the low B, I’m gonna do this tuning.
I like your style! And above all... great content! cheers
This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you, Uncle Ben!
You just blew my mind with that, mate. Thanks for sharing those tips!
Great video!!
Greetings from Brazil!
Thanks for clearing that up.
tks! so simple yet so effective!
great lesson, this trick has always worked for me you know I like those baritone guitars
thanks for making this video Uncle Ben. i have two 7strings i rarely play, tho im definitely gona give this method a go on both them.
Great video! I will definitively try this on my old MH-307
I just tuned my 7 string to this tuning to practice lute music. It makes the top 6 strings essentially a lute. I wasn't using the 7th string at all for this as I didn't know what the lute tuning would be, but now I know I can practice regular guitar at the same time.