I'm from Calgary and I'm not sure this project is generating anger or is as controversial as the video suggests. The Flames are paying more that just $40 million. They are also paying $17 million in annual lease payments, escalating 1% per year for a present-day value of $356 million, $1.5 million per year for community sports funding (total $52.5 million) plus the potential sale of properties in the Rivers District to the Flames for development, which will not only yield sales revenue, but increase the annual property tax base. As for petitions against the arena, the only one I'm aware of is calling for a diversion of arena funds to the new C-Train Green Line. Even then they only have just over 1000 signatures, which is a drop in the bucket for a city of 1.4 million people.
incredible to see someone think this is a good deal and that the flames are paying their fair share. peasant mentality like yours keeps the billionaires fat and rich.
Agreed, I’m from Calgary and this commentary is click bait, the drama and narrative is ridiculous. Also, he has the cost sharing numbers completely wrong. This new world where anyone can just say whatever they want with no accountability is very sad indeed.
@ irrelevant. This is public money being spent on the Calgary Flames, if anyone other than the government put that kind of investment in a company, they would be morons for not demanding shares in it
@@joecirin7025irrelevant. This was an investment in the Flames. If anyone other than the government puts that much money into an organization, they would have ownership stakes
@@aidanwotherspoon905 not true. calgary needed a venue for concerts that kept skipping. this is absolutely not an investment in the flames. the team brings in millions to the calgary economy each year so it would be bad to have them leave. also, the flames will pay to use the building, so not sure how you can really say its an investment in the flames. youve missed the point
This is a massive waste of money, people need to understand Taylor Swift would never come to Calgary ever, the city is beneath her. Calgary is nowhere near the level of a Vancouver or Toronto which is the reason why it’s a waste of money.
@@CtO-nj9uuTrust me, I’m an Edmontonian, even the rest of Canada mentions Calgary on most levels of conversation, hardly ever a mention of Edmonton. P.S. I like Calgary but love my home. I make an annual visit to Calgary and look forward to it every year.😁
@@rhondathieson1156 Unless you talk O&G nobody really knows what Calgary is outside of Canada. Alberta is a largely overlooked region when it comes to international travel plans. Calgary is not a world class city like the three I mention either.
@ I suppose that’s true regarding world acknowledgment , we both live in pretty awesome cities here but the other three get the top billing. Shitty but true.😒
@@rhondathieson1156 I mean it’s a blessing in disguise I think personally. I live in Vancouver and this place be 50X better if less people knew about it
If you don't like it, move to a city with no NHL team. This is the cost of progress and staying relevant on the big stage. Once its complete the new palace will become a source of pride for city's next generations and the cost won't matter.
I wish I could water my trees in summer but Calgary has no money for infrastructure like functional water pipes. I guess I could buy bottled water at the area and bring it home for my poor garden.😢
We need public money to pay for park patrol in our parks, greenspaces and other common use areas. Make Calgary Safe and green again. In 2017 we had enough by-law officers to patrol on bikes and the areas were safe and clean. Clean from druggies, encampments, littler, dog poop, graffiti and violence in our parks.
As someone who doesn’t give one crap about hockey or the Calgary Stampede, it’s an absolute waste of money and not a project I want MY taxes to go towards! Calgary has tried to revitalize downtown Calgary for 45 years and failed miserably. It’s ugly, boring and a complete dud. I live in Calgary and go downtown maybe once every 2 years, and only because I have to.
The Flames should have left (for either Atlanta or Houston) back in 2018 when the Purple Prince was re-elected for another term and he wasn't going to put a penny into a new arena / stadium proposal at West Village (especially since the soil has been contaminated for decades).
Kinda like a copy of Roger’s Place in Edmonton but at twice the price! Also this report repeats itself over and over about taxpayers being screwed without ONCE mentioning Provincial funding. What a glaring omission! Edmonton’s arena never got any funding from the province while Calgary apparently got $300 million cause the Premier is from Calgary? Anybody? Is this true?
The province provided up front money which is to be repaid by the Flames owners over a 25 year span and its the same with most of the city money as well. When all is said and done the Flames owners will pay roughly 1.5 billion dollars on this with the up front and repayment and interest they are paying on it. Smith said that growth in cities does need support and that's what the province wants for both cities. I don't think its because she was born in Calgary
This isn't anywhere close to Rogers Place. Rogers Place is a million times a better idea for half the price. Edmonton was very brave to abandon Northlands, and it has changed the way people see Edmonton.
Cool story this building has much more then rogers. Also rogers will look like a fossil when this arenas done. Also you're a goofy oiler fan of course you're gonna shit on it 🤡
There are several factors that make Scotia Place more expensive. One being the cost of materials that have gone up significantly since the time Roger's was built. Another is that Scotia place requires a massive 40 foot deep hole, while Roger's Place was built with only the event level below ground.
Sorry the flames are a huge source of revenue to the city,with visiting teams,concerts,conventions etc. This is soundings like a whiney hit piece by the loser provincial NDP party. The economic boost of the new arena will be enormous
This is 100% by some fiscal conservative, who's confused why we aren't forming mass protests over every decision he doesn't particularly like in city hall. Not sure how you would paint this guy out to be some liberal who would be in favor of spending for the benefit of Calgarians.
We need the new arena badly. Thankfully it is finally being built. The way the city comes alive for a playoff run is truly one of the things that makes living in Calgary so great. With Trudeau gone and all the extra expense for the woke garbage including the mayor we can focus on helping the zombies find someplace to heal and contribute to society again. 🍀🍁
this is absolutely insanely WRONG tax payers should no be on the hook for any of it, period.what ? to subsidize billionaires and give ,GIVE the millionaire players a sweet new arena to PLAY IN !!!
It was built for the '88 Olympics it was ready in 1983. I don't know why that's important? They did win a cup, and a non called goal away in 2004. But if you aren't a fan, whatever.
I was actually at that game in 2004. I bought season tickets to be able to go to that game but really haven’t watched hockey since. I believe the strike forward right after that.
Every major project it seems has cost overuns. Take for example the extension of the Montreal Metro extension of the Blue line to Anjou. An extension of 5 new stations from St. Micheal to Anjou which had been promised since 1988 and 37 years later construction hasn't even started and the cost of it is already over $6 billion.
I'm from Calgary and I'm not sure this project is generating anger or is as controversial as the video suggests. The Flames are paying more that just $40 million. They are also paying $17 million in annual lease payments, escalating 1% per year for a present-day value of $356 million, $1.5 million per year for community sports funding (total $52.5 million) plus the potential sale of properties in the Rivers District to the Flames for development, which will not only yield sales revenue, but increase the annual property tax base. As for petitions against the arena, the only one I'm aware of is calling for a diversion of arena funds to the new C-Train Green Line. Even then they only have just over 1000 signatures, which is a drop in the bucket for a city of 1.4 million people.
incredible to see someone think this is a good deal and that the flames are paying their fair share. peasant mentality like yours keeps the billionaires fat and rich.
yes thank you
Agreed, I’m from Calgary and this commentary is click bait, the drama and narrative is ridiculous. Also, he has the cost sharing numbers completely wrong. This new world where anyone can just say whatever they want with no accountability is very sad indeed.
If a sports owner wants a public subsidy on an arena, then the public should own shares in the team!
the city owns the arena bud
@ irrelevant. This is public money being spent on the Calgary Flames, if anyone other than the government put that kind of investment in a company, they would be morons for not demanding shares in it
@@joecirin7025irrelevant. This was an investment in the Flames. If anyone other than the government puts that much money into an organization, they would have ownership stakes
@@aidanwotherspoon905 not true. calgary needed a venue for concerts that kept skipping. this is absolutely not an investment in the flames. the team brings in millions to the calgary economy each year so it would be bad to have them leave. also, the flames will pay to use the building, so not sure how you can really say its an investment in the flames. youve missed the point
This is a massive waste of money, people need to understand Taylor Swift would never come to Calgary ever, the city is beneath her. Calgary is nowhere near the level of a Vancouver or Toronto which is the reason why it’s a waste of money.
"Put Calgary on the map"? Calgary has wide name recognition around the country and the world. Weird talking point.
Not really, when you think Canada you think Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. Nobody thinks about Calgary.
@@CtO-nj9uuTrust me, I’m an Edmontonian, even the rest of Canada mentions Calgary on most levels of conversation, hardly ever a mention of Edmonton. P.S. I like Calgary but love my home. I make an annual visit to Calgary and look forward to it every year.😁
@@rhondathieson1156 Unless you talk O&G nobody really knows what Calgary is outside of Canada. Alberta is a largely overlooked region when it comes to international travel plans. Calgary is not a world class city like the three I mention either.
@ I suppose that’s true regarding world acknowledgment , we both live in pretty awesome cities here but the other three get the top billing. Shitty but true.😒
@@rhondathieson1156 I mean it’s a blessing in disguise I think personally. I live in Vancouver and this place be 50X better if less people knew about it
Anybody else notice the CGI dude sitting backwards in the chair at 1:28?
Thats some wild "State of the Art" tech for sure
If you don't like it, move to a city with no NHL team. This is the cost of progress and staying relevant on the big stage.
Once its complete the new palace will become a source of pride for city's next generations and the cost won't matter.
Is this an AI created video?
I wish I could water my trees in summer but Calgary has no money for infrastructure like functional water pipes. I guess I could buy bottled water at the area and bring it home for my poor garden.😢
Literally first world problems. Some places don't even have drinkable tap water... IN CANADA
Wow haven’t heard about a SINGLE protest and a majority of people that I’ve talked to are completely for it. NDP hot piece is all this is
the Alberta NDP personally control the media, Notley should be in jail!
We need public money to pay for park patrol in our parks, greenspaces and other common use areas. Make Calgary Safe and green again. In 2017 we had enough by-law officers to patrol on bikes and the areas were safe and clean. Clean from druggies, encampments, littler, dog poop, graffiti and violence in our parks.
Terrible video. No depth, no data, no direction.
As someone who doesn’t give one crap about hockey or the Calgary Stampede, it’s an absolute waste of money and not a project I want MY taxes to go towards!
Calgary has tried to revitalize downtown Calgary for 45 years and failed miserably. It’s ugly, boring and a complete dud. I live in Calgary and go downtown maybe once every 2 years, and only because I have to.
lighten up. the new arena is city owned and will generate 150 million a year in revenue that goes directly to the city. sound better now?
And the stampedes play at spy hill land fill field...... whats wrong here.
Stop subsidizing billionaires and millionaires playing a stupid game. Seriously!
I think most Canadians would have a problem with you calling hockey a “stupid game”
calgary owns the arena
Go eat a veggie burger
Taxpayers paid for this, they didn’t want to. This is a massive waste of money and the losers are the city and its people.
Well said👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
if there was no government help, the flames would just leave. i bet there would be more objections to that
@@joecirin7025 there’s nothing stopping the Flames from relocating now if they wanted
@@aidanwotherspoon905 yes there is? they have a 35 year lease on the new building. stop making stuff up
@@joecirin7025 leases can be broken. These investments should come with ownership stakes in the team
The Flames should have left (for either Atlanta or Houston) back in 2018 when the Purple Prince was re-elected for another term and he wasn't going to put a penny into a new arena / stadium proposal at West Village (especially since the soil has been contaminated for decades).
We can't afford the price of tickets so why should we care if the Flames left.
Citizens of Calgary would have preferred more transit options, lrt, buses etc
Maybe could have used money from the BMO Centre. Funny how there is no bitching about all that money spent.
Speak for yourself.
Kinda like a copy of Roger’s Place in Edmonton but at twice the price! Also this report repeats itself over and over about taxpayers being screwed without ONCE mentioning Provincial funding. What a glaring omission! Edmonton’s arena never got any funding from the province while Calgary apparently got $300 million cause the Premier is from Calgary? Anybody? Is this true?
The province provided up front money which is to be repaid by the Flames owners over a 25 year span and its the same with most of the city money as well. When all is said and done the Flames owners will pay roughly 1.5 billion dollars on this with the up front and repayment and interest they are paying on it. Smith said that growth in cities does need support and that's what the province wants for both cities. I don't think its because she was born in Calgary
It's definitely not a copy of Roger's Place.
@@MrBravo1553 Where's my provincial upfront money to run my business that I'll repay in 25 years?
@@user-iw5mp5th6d not saying i support it just saying the facts but yea you dont get it so why should they
This isn't anywhere close to Rogers Place. Rogers Place is a million times a better idea for half the price. Edmonton was very brave to abandon Northlands, and it has changed the way people see Edmonton.
Pro sports is insane the owners are bullshiters
Keep the dome. Would you rip down fenway? Of course you would if edmonton did it
Place is A PALACE 😅❤
The total cost to build Rogers Place in Edmonton was $613 million, which is $751 million in 2025 dollars. The arena itself cost $483.5 million.
Cool story this building has much more then rogers. Also rogers will look like a fossil when this arenas done. Also you're a goofy oiler fan of course you're gonna shit on it 🤡
@ bro 🤣 calm down all I did was state how much rogers cost never said anything bad. Get your panties out of a bunch geeeez guy want a hoot? 🤣🤦♂️
There are several factors that make Scotia Place more expensive. One being the cost of materials that have gone up significantly since the time Roger's was built. Another is that Scotia place requires a massive 40 foot deep hole, while Roger's Place was built with only the event level below ground.
Sorry the flames are a huge source of revenue to the city,with visiting teams,concerts,conventions etc. This is soundings like a whiney hit piece by the loser provincial NDP party. The economic boost of the new arena will be enormous
This is 100% by some fiscal conservative, who's confused why we aren't forming mass protests over every decision he doesn't particularly like in city hall. Not sure how you would paint this guy out to be some liberal who would be in favor of spending for the benefit of Calgarians.
We need the new arena badly. Thankfully it is finally being built. The way the city comes alive for a playoff run is truly one of the things that makes living in Calgary so great. With Trudeau gone and all the extra expense for the woke garbage including the mayor we can focus on helping the zombies find someplace to heal and contribute to society again. 🍀🍁
this is absolutely insanely WRONG tax payers should no be on the hook for any of it, period.what ? to subsidize billionaires and give ,GIVE the millionaire players a sweet new arena to PLAY IN !!!
Calgary has super bad hockey team. They should’ve had to bring home a cup before they get a new arena
they did win a cup
Yes, that was one year after the saddle was built for the Olympics. Sadly, I don’t see another Stanley Cup in Calgary near future.😢
It was built for the '88 Olympics it was ready in 1983.
I don't know why that's important? They did win a cup, and a non called goal away in 2004. But if you aren't a fan, whatever.
I was actually at that game in 2004. I bought season tickets to be able to go to that game but really haven’t watched hockey since. I believe the strike forward right after that.
So Glad I escaped the burden of Calgary
Lol over arena? Go live in the mountains you're not meant for city life. Boring ass goofy
provincially Calgary is the reason our province is disappearing up its own ass
IF there are cost overruns 🤣
Every major project it seems has cost overuns. Take for example the extension of the Montreal Metro extension of the Blue line to Anjou. An extension of 5 new stations from St. Micheal to Anjou which had been promised since 1988 and 37 years later construction hasn't even started and the cost of it is already over $6 billion.
Edmonton arena cost just about the same. Edmonton owned only put up 400 million rest is tax payer