A rare moment of laughter and mirth in the Collins house toward the end of this episode as Elizabeth and Carolyn share funny accounts of years past. It was actually good to see that!
I wonder if Louis Edmonds forgot to put the silver pen in his pocket, and that is why he suddenly told Burke (Mitchell Ryan) that he seemed to have left it at home. If so, that would have been the most brilliant cover up yet!
+Sarah Tascone Spoiler Alert! Spoiler Alert! I ended up buying the entire series on dvd and the missing pen actually does play a major role in the plot later on.
I really feel for Burke's character here. After all of the years of suffering, a sliver of daylight appears. Redemption is within his grasp, only to have Roger laugh in his face, and his buddy Sam the sham not being a stand-up guy. Sure, it's only a drama, but imagine that scenario playing out in real life, with you involved?
is he really totally innocent then? because his quote after the trial was that roger would be sorry for taking the stand. if he knew what roger said was a lie then he would have used different words. unless somehow he himself didn't realize he was innocent?
Gringo; what you say is true. I'm not sure I could have been as strong as Burke if I was in his position. You are so correct in saying that Sam is a "sham". I feel that he is very weak-willed but, at the same time, ten years earlier he accepted the bribe of $15,000 from Roger mostly because his wife was ill. Elizabeth Stoddard is such an attractive woman for her age but Carolyn gets on my nerves sometimes.
This has got to be a Ron Sproat script. Everyone won't shut up about having mysterious chills. xD And btw Liz, death won't walk into your house until a certain "cousin from England" comes calling. :)
Frederic Chopin Étude Op. 10, No. 3 Tristesse in E major. It was composed in 1832. You will probably find it on you tube, and it sounds better on a 19th century piano! It is one of my favourite etudes by Chopin. The file on wikipedia is an antique piano. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tudes_(Chopin)#.C3.89tudes_Op._10 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tude_Op._10,_No._3_(Chopin) Enjoy! Actually this is a good choice of music as tristesse means sadness. Fits in with this episode...
As a young man in the 60's I can't remember a time any of my family said "I love you" or whatnot. Shows of affection were also scarce especially between family of such high standard it just wasn't really said as it was expected without word really.
It's been awhile since we've seen David, that little brat. Makes me wonder what he was up to in real-life. This was filmed in summer, so I doubt he was in school, right? School doesn't start until late August / early September in America.
Renee G Did they have private tutors for the child actors? Or did they film their scenes around their classes if they were enrolled in school? I thought there were laws stipulating that child actors could not work more than a certain number of hours per day, days per month, and so on. Also, it was probably just the fact that the story line at this time (what Roger and Sam knew about the accident) simply did not require David's presence.
atlantic 11561 .... Yeah, this could be as well. The script did not call for his presence, so he was deep into some books. Or maybe he was at summer camp, or on some family vacation? He hee what do I know about child actors though?
atlantic 11561 ... it's so weird to think that in a way, Dark Shadows was like an everyday job for them. I mean, a lot of shows are made every day, but not a lot of them are being AIRED every day, you see? ... I believe nowadays, weekly shows like Twilight are filmed way in advance, and there's a lot of work in between filming and airing. .. With Dark Shadows, the sense that this was their 'job' is similar to the sense that a lot of us have jobs. If somebody was sick or couldn't show up for work, for instance, the results would immediately be felt by the rest of the cast. .... Having trouble saying what I mean, but know what I mean?
Renee G Indeed, which is why (despite the flubs), these people were more like true actors in the professional sense. The show was done live, and they were under much more pressure to be committed to their work.
A rare moment of laughter and mirth in the Collins house toward the end of this episode as Elizabeth and Carolyn share funny accounts of years past. It was actually good to see that!
One of the best moments, a little glimmer of HOPE!
I wonder if Louis Edmonds forgot to put the silver pen in his pocket, and that is why he suddenly told Burke (Mitchell Ryan) that he seemed to have left it at home. If so, that would have been the most brilliant cover up yet!
atlantic 11561
Good point. I didn't even think of that. I just assumed it was going to play into a later storyline.
Ken Bob Louis Edmonds was reputed to be the best "cover upper" of all the DS cast.
+atlantic 11561 The props crew screwed up. Poor guy.
+Sarah Tascone
Spoiler Alert! Spoiler Alert!
I ended up buying the entire series on dvd and the missing pen actually does play a major role in the plot later on.
Ken Bob:D
I really feel for Burke's character here. After all of the years of suffering, a sliver of daylight appears. Redemption is within his grasp, only to have Roger laugh in his face, and his buddy Sam the sham not being a stand-up guy. Sure, it's only a drama, but imagine that scenario playing out in real life, with you involved?
That's right!
is he really totally innocent then? because his quote after the trial was that roger would be sorry for taking the stand. if he knew what roger said was a lie then he would have used different words. unless somehow he himself didn't realize he was innocent?
Burke is innocent..Keep 👀
Jovonna Holman mmm k
Gringo; what you say is true. I'm not sure I could have been as strong as Burke if I was in his position. You are so correct in saying that Sam is a "sham". I feel that he is very weak-willed but, at the same time, ten years earlier he accepted the bribe of $15,000 from Roger mostly because his wife was ill. Elizabeth Stoddard is such an attractive woman for her age but Carolyn gets on my nerves sometimes.
the sculpture on the table in the entrance hall keep moving positions from time to time
That Carolyn...what a sweetheart!
This has got to be a Ron Sproat script. Everyone won't shut up about having mysterious chills. xD
And btw Liz, death won't walk into your house until a certain "cousin from England" comes calling. :)
That's exactly what I was thinking at the time.
Does anyone know the name of the piano piece Elizabeth Collins Stoddard is playing in the drawing room shortly after the beginning?
Frederic Chopin Étude Op. 10, No. 3 Tristesse in E major. It was composed in 1832. You will probably find it on you tube, and it sounds better on a 19th century piano! It is one of my favourite etudes by Chopin. The file on wikipedia is an antique piano.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tudes_(Chopin)#.C3.89tudes_Op._10
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tude_Op._10,_No._3_(Chopin)
Enjoy! Actually this is a good choice of music as tristesse means sadness. Fits in with this episode...
Why didn't Elizabeth say "I love you back?" She only said "Carolyn, thank you for being so sweet.
"
As a young man in the 60's I can't remember a time any of my family said "I love you" or whatnot. Shows of affection were also scarce especially between family of such high standard it just wasn't really said as it was expected without word really.
My grandparents would never say that.
Which episode showed Malloy getting pushed off the cliff?
Was it Malloy? I saw a video of outdoor shots today, and saw a body on the rocks. I was hoping it was Devlin. I'm getting tired of him.
It's been awhile since we've seen David, that little brat. Makes me wonder what he was up to in real-life. This was filmed in summer, so I doubt he was in school, right? School doesn't start until late August / early September in America.
Renee G Did they have private tutors for the child actors? Or did they film their scenes around their classes if they were enrolled in school? I thought there were laws stipulating that child actors could not work more than a certain number of hours per day, days per month, and so on. Also, it was probably just the fact that the story line at this time (what Roger and Sam knew about the accident) simply did not require David's presence.
atlantic 11561 .... Yeah, this could be as well. The script did not call for his presence, so he was deep into some books. Or maybe he was at summer camp, or on some family vacation? He hee what do I know about child actors though?
Renee G Well, if you notice, all the core cast members are given a few days off in succession, so it is obviously a general contractual matter.
atlantic 11561 ... it's so weird to think that in a way, Dark Shadows was like an everyday job for them. I mean, a lot of shows are made every day, but not a lot of them are being AIRED every day, you see? ... I believe nowadays, weekly shows like Twilight are filmed way in advance, and there's a lot of work in between filming and airing. .. With Dark Shadows, the sense that this was their 'job' is similar to the sense that a lot of us have jobs. If somebody was sick or couldn't show up for work, for instance, the results would immediately be felt by the rest of the cast. .... Having trouble saying what I mean, but know what I mean?
Renee G Indeed, which is why (despite the flubs), these people were more like true actors in the professional sense. The show was done live, and they were under much more pressure to be committed to their work.