@@4WDisLife yeah it's tough. I think I could make it with mine. I have a break over angle of 29.3 degrees (2 inch lift and tires). Approach and departure 35-40 degrees. I forget what the exact numbers are but it's nuts. Highest points of my bumpers undersides are like 21 inches off the ground. I'd be about like a Rubicon with a 1-2 inch lift and stock tires. 4 skid plates plus Rock sliders.
@@4WDisLife I was curious and did the math. Stock Ford raptor has to go up 4.6 inches to hit 29.3 breakover. Cool stuff. That's a raptor that's 20.5 inches off the ground mid vehicle. The raptors ground clearance is listed as 11 inches. Yeah maybe to the diff. It's 15.9 inches off the ground mid vehicle. You can figure that out by taking the break over angle and the wheelbase and then solving for mid vehicle height.
@@off-roadingexplained8417 nice. Maybe you could. But I have seen jeep gladiator rubicon on 35 inch tires not able to make it up before. Ground clearance is one thing, big enough tire size and locker makes it easier to roll up on the rocks too.
Very cool video thanks for the time you put into sharing it I currently run 35’s because I tow a 8k rv and the cost to go gears and lockers was too much before we left this season… but I’ll be doing some stuff soon on the Tundra
I run 285/70/18s (essentially a 34 1/2 inch tire) And as long as you have or rock sliders which I do I’ve never had any issues. Best part is it doesn’t really impact my fuel economy which 35s and 37s definitely do.
@@4WDisLife Of course but the Ridge Grappler I run only impacts it about 0.5 miles. In town I still get typically 15 mpg and on the highway at 70-72 mph I'm getting 17.4'ish. The computer has said I have gotten 18.4 before but it is off about 1 mpg. I did have a unit installed in my dash that accounts for the tire size so my odometer and speedometer don't get messed up.
You changed the experiment by going slower and engaging the rear locker. Did the other one have rear locker engaged? What were all the differences between all the vehicles you used? Also, the spotter should have guided you first to the same line the other truck went so you don't confound it with different routes. To be nitpicky, both vehicles should have had the same driver so you don't affect the outcome by different techniques and experience but I don't think that one is important unless there is a stark difference in the drivers.
The 37s are better. With that said the 35s are more livable in day to day activities. I will lean toward 35 for the all around win. If I were doing NOTHING but off road and harder trails, then I would probably go with the 37s. But for daily driver that does serious trails from time to time...35s make more sense.
@@bigboijohnnysuspension: front is icon 2.5 resi coilovers with adjusters and billet upper control arms. Rear is rxt rear springs with 2.5 2 tube bypass shocks and hydraulic bump stops. Wheels: method 701s tires: 37x13.5r17 cooper stt pro
Hard to really judge the comparison. Trucks look very different, lifts, bumpers, body trim, side rails, and did both use lockers or just the one with 35”s? To truly do a tire comparison all other factors should be the same. Even the driver if possible. I did end the video but not a true comparison in my opinion
What lifts do the truck have with each tire combo ? It look the truck with 35 needs more lift . I think with more lift it would preform close the 37’s.
37”s are mean! I would love to find out more about it! I have icons 3.0’s on mine and front bumper with winch. Are u running the 2.5’s with 700 lb springs?
Let me save you the trouble…. Their isn’t much difference between a 35 and a 37…..you get your gain at 38 and obviously 40… in fact, I run a 35 that is the same size as my buddies 37… lol The cheaper route is to buy 35s because in all honesty, you’re going to get the same performance out of the tire. 38s are a different story, but nobody wants to put the money into the suspension and drivetrain to properly run 38s.
You can but the performance won’t be nearly as good… when I regeared to 488 w 37 s it made a huge improvement only second to when I through my supercharger on it!
I have 2 tundras one w 35s and the other w 37s…37s done right require regearing and upper front inner fender mods to avoid rubbing bad and ideally fiberglass fenders…35s none of this…you can run 37s without regearing modifying front inner fender and switching to fiberglass but functional it will suck … 35s are going to perform much better Offroad than 37s without already mentioned mods which are expensive except the inner fender mod you can do for free by using a bottle jack…aside from functionality 37s look a 1000x better on tundras than 35S
I love this hill that you used to test everything on. I need a good Hill like that.
yes man, unfortunately, not all trucks are capable of even trying it without some scratches to the frame.
@@4WDisLife yeah it's tough. I think I could make it with mine. I have a break over angle of 29.3 degrees (2 inch lift and tires). Approach and departure 35-40 degrees. I forget what the exact numbers are but it's nuts. Highest points of my bumpers undersides are like 21 inches off the ground.
I'd be about like a Rubicon with a 1-2 inch lift and stock tires.
4 skid plates plus Rock sliders.
@@4WDisLife I was curious and did the math. Stock Ford raptor has to go up 4.6 inches to hit 29.3 breakover. Cool stuff.
That's a raptor that's 20.5 inches off the ground mid vehicle.
The raptors ground clearance is listed as 11 inches. Yeah maybe to the diff. It's 15.9 inches off the ground mid vehicle.
You can figure that out by taking the break over angle and the wheelbase and then solving for mid vehicle height.
@@off-roadingexplained8417 nice. Maybe you could. But I have seen jeep gladiator rubicon on 35 inch tires not able to make it up before. Ground clearance is one thing, big enough tire size and locker makes it easier to roll up on the rocks too.
But with 37s you would have to cut some more of the chassis
The Tundra is such a large bodied truck that it makes 35s look too small. 37s fit it just right.
Yea. I think 35 looks stock ish and 37 will bring out the character of the baja style truck a lot
I couldn’t really tell which one did better, but the rear locker upgrade is awesome! Glad all the new Tundras have the option from the factory
Thanks JonDZ. I was really jealous of the new tundras rear locker
I’d rather have my 5.7 V8 than a locker, I can add a locker anytime and probably will next year LOL!
@@chrismak4859 Me too.
Definitely getting 37s now!
Did the tundra with 37s get regeared? if so what gears was installed 4 88 maybe?
Very cool video thanks for the time you put into sharing it
I currently run 35’s because I tow a 8k rv and the cost to go gears and lockers was too much before we left this season… but I’ll be doing some stuff soon on the Tundra
Yea man. If you don’t offroad ur tundra that much, the rear locker is more of a luxury
I run 285/70/18s (essentially a 34 1/2 inch tire) And as long as you have or rock sliders which I do I’ve never had any issues. Best part is it doesn’t really impact my fuel economy which 35s and 37s definitely do.
I respect your opinion but when upsizing tires even at your 34.5 tall, it’s additional weight and diameter will still impact the mpg just not as much.
@@4WDisLife Of course but the Ridge Grappler I run only impacts it about 0.5 miles. In town I still get typically 15 mpg and on the highway at 70-72 mph I'm getting 17.4'ish. The computer has said I have gotten 18.4 before but it is off about 1 mpg. I did have a unit installed in my dash that accounts for the tire size so my odometer and speedometer don't get messed up.
@@SuperSnakePlissken that’s good to know. What load range is ur ridge grapplers?
Great Video! I am from MD, and i see al of the PA tags in the video, is this in PA?
I wish I could be out there doing that! I'm in California! 2013 crew max tundra on 6 inch lift fox shocks and 35s no lockers though!
You changed the experiment by going slower and engaging the rear locker. Did the other one have rear locker engaged? What were all the differences between all the vehicles you used? Also, the spotter should have guided you first to the same line the other truck went so you don't confound it with different routes. To be nitpicky, both vehicles should have had the same driver so you don't affect the outcome by different techniques and experience but I don't think that one is important unless there is a stark difference in the drivers.
Tundras don’t come with lockers, only the 2022 and newer do.
@@chrismak4859 So even more different
@@AdventuresofGraywolf yea I think the one with 37’s has a locker, he installed an aftermarket one.
Since you know so much go do the test yourself
The 37s are better. With that said the 35s are more livable in day to day activities. I will lean toward 35 for the all around win. If I were doing NOTHING but off road and harder trails, then I would probably go with the 37s. But for daily driver that does serious trails from time to time...35s make more sense.
37s are hardcore and cool, but Love the tundra on 35! It is just right
Thank you! The tundra on 35s is a very balanced truck.
Do you have the full specs on the tundra with 37s? Does it have lockers also?
@@bigboijohnny the tundra on 37s doesn’t have locker I can get the spec for u. Give me couple of days.
@@bigboijohnnysuspension: front is icon 2.5 resi coilovers with adjusters and billet upper control arms. Rear is rxt rear springs with 2.5 2 tube bypass shocks and hydraulic bump stops.
Wheels: method 701s
tires: 37x13.5r17 cooper stt pro
@@louismarkus2646 did you regear? We have the same suspension setup, but I have camburg tubular UCA’s
Hard to really judge the comparison. Trucks look very different, lifts, bumpers, body trim, side rails, and did both use lockers or just the one with 35”s? To truly do a tire comparison all other factors should be the same. Even the driver if possible. I did end the video but not a true comparison in my opinion
What lifts do the truck have with each tire combo ? It look the truck with 35 needs more lift . I think with more lift it would preform close the 37’s.
Look into camera systems for the front and rear to help with trail runs and parking too they are with the money
Will do.
On the tundra at 3:36 what are the ditch lights called? How is the small looks like s-pod mounted on the side?
37”s are mean! I would love to find out more about it! I have icons 3.0’s on mine and front bumper with winch. Are u running the 2.5’s with 700 lb springs?
Please see response to comments below for the setup of the tundra on 37s
Cool video! I've been considering a rear locker for my tundra... did you go with the ARB or Eaton E-locker?
I went with Eaton harrop e locker, I did have other videos uploaded about the installation and performance of the locker. Feel free to check them out!
Are the 35's on an 18 inch rim ?
Where is this trail park at
Not to much difference on off-roading in my eyes. Difference is 37 looks right more proportion
Agree. 37s look proper.
35" AT vs 37" MT?
Yea
He should do a video comparing an all season tire vs a mud terrain to see which on performs better in the mud.
How is this a comparison if you’re letting the 35s run lockers.
Let me save you the trouble…. Their isn’t much difference between a 35 and a 37…..you get your gain at 38 and obviously 40… in fact, I run a 35 that is the same size as my buddies 37… lol
The cheaper route is to buy 35s because in all honesty, you’re going to get the same performance out of the tire.
38s are a different story, but nobody wants to put the money into the suspension and drivetrain to properly run 38s.
What was the gearing on the tundra running 37s?
I am not sure but I have switched to 37s since and is on stock 4.3 gearing
I hav a 2019 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro with 35” tires. I can imagine cutting up my truck to fit 37s. That just doesn’t make any sense.
Personally I am the same.
You probably spent less $$ getting there and getting up those hills with your 35s
True
37s take the fun out of it. It's too easy
Haha. Could be
How many inch lift u got riding on 35s?
2 up front and 1 in the rear
The problem is the one on 37s has no bumpers and has better clearance it’s not necessarily the tires
The Guy on 37s did big hill climb without locker
Cuz he doesn’t have a rear locker.
I couldn’t find one bit of useful information in this video.
2020 tundra 4x4
if I put on 37’s can run with stock gears?
In my unprofessional opinion yes
You can but the performance won’t be nearly as good… when I regeared to 488 w 37 s it made a huge improvement only second to when I through my supercharger on it!
I have 2 tundras one w 35s and the other w 37s…37s done right require regearing and upper front inner fender mods to avoid rubbing bad and ideally fiberglass fenders…35s none of this…you can run 37s without regearing modifying front inner fender and switching to fiberglass but functional it will suck … 35s are going to perform much better Offroad than 37s without already mentioned mods which are expensive except the inner fender mod you can do for free by using a bottle jack…aside from functionality 37s look a 1000x better on tundras than 35S