This was the first book of Agatha Christie I ever read, and they changed the characters and their relationships so much to fit Hollywood’s view that it is almost unrecognisable from the book. The arrogance to think they can make a book written by a master and ‘improve it’ astounds me... I was really looking forward to seeing one of my favourite books on screen.
Poirot had once been a policeman in Belgium in the books. He comes to England in The Mysterious Affair at Styles (published in 1916) as a Belgian refugee (he has already retired from the force).
YES !!! But during some time off from the Police Force in Belgian, he does some work as a detective (the Chocolate Box) where he meets his first true love interest: Virginie Mesnard - who gifts him the iconic lapel pin. Then, he becomes a true private detective in England since he is so good working with his "Little Gray Cells". LOL
Poirot did at least consider marrying the Countess Rossakoff at the end of the story The Capture of Cerberus. His confirming a large florist's bill and speculation that he might "marry and range myself" shock Miss Lemon into forgetting all about her filing system.
I haven't seen the Kenneth Brannagh film but I have seen the Peter Ustinov version which is excellent. Mia Farrow and Simon Mccorquendale are also great as Jackie and Simon.
The 70s version of the movie is on youtube free movies! I just finished watching it then came straight here. You can see the differences in the choices between both movies. Plus, Angela Landsbury and Maggie Smith is in it!
@@WhytheBookWins The Suchet series is about 13 seasons long= I know many Poirots LOL but Suchet is by far the best = Suchet IS Poirot LOL He studied Poirot so well and portrait the character to the "T"... in my opinion.
There was a line in the movie about how Jackie had the part of Cleopatra in a play but the director replaced her with Linnie a week before the show went on. The thought the movie was style over substance and over acted in parts. Like the film makers felt modern audiences would be bored with a straight forward murder mystery.
If you enjoy Hercule Poirot I would suggest trying the british tv series by the same name with David Suchet as the Belgian detective. They did Murder on the Nile in 2004.
Cover "The Mirror Cracked" The movie starred Elizabeth Taylor, Kim Novak, and Angela Lansbury as Miss Marple. The movie was the inspiration for "Murder, she wrote".
I would love to see a comparison of the book vs the 70’s movie. I really love that version. Hopefully it will become available on iTunes after the release of new version. In a movie where Agatha actually tries to solve a murder, it is pointed out to her that it’s never the obvious person who does it in the murder mysteries so she wrote Death on the Nile so the twist was that the obvious person (people) did do it.
Just found your channel tonight. I would also love to hear a movie/book comparison of the Seventies version and also the David Suchet version which I think is the closest to the novel. (I listened to the audiobook last year). I have a soft spot for the Seventies’ version; it was filmed on location in Egypt, I’ve seen videos on the careful costume design and I can watch it over and over again. Also since Suchet is considered by many as the perfect Poirot, I enjoyed his version a lot (a young Emily Blunt is Lynette). Great video. I’ll have to find your others as I’m a big book lover and an even bigger movie fan. 😀
This was pretty disappointing to me compared to Branagh’s prior Poirot film. The ‘78 film is also a rough act to follow given the excellent cast they had access to. The book is one of my mom’s favorite Poirot stories
I am not a Christie purist. In previous adaptions of Christie's works things have been changed and i am fine with that but Brannagh's Poirot is just so far from the base material. Poirot is not some self doubting, lovelorn, almost emo-esque man who also is a part time action hero. I loathe it.
The 70s movie is a follow-up of the 1974 Orient Express one, in which Poirot is played by a phlegmatic Peter Ustinov. I by far prefer the characterization of David Suchet for Poirot - he better captures P's effete mannerisms. Nonetheless, they are both good movies that I would recommend.
In the book I was going back and forth; I remember thinking for a while it could be the accountant. The thing with the movie is that they made Simon and Jackie's motive obvious, but everyone else's motives felt like they were included almost as an afterthought. What if, instead of the brief exposition we get in the movie the accountant has a full scene like he does in the book? He's in his office and hears about the marriage, and from his reaction we know he's in deep trouble. Then he rushes off to Egypt for the 'accidental' meeting. What if the movie had gone with the show, don't tell rule with the maid? Instead of waiting until after the murder for the maid to sit and tell her story to Poirot, how about having it brought up before the murder through some kind of interaction between the maid and Lynette? That way when the murder does happen we'd be thinking of several possibilities, all with solid reasoning. There was time for all of this. That's the main issue I have with including so much backstory for Poirot. I don't mind that they included more information about him, but it the screen time devoted to it would have been better spent establishing the motives of the other suspects.
if you are OKAY with Poirot shaving his mustache then you obviously do not know Poirot very well....Poirot WOULD HAVE NEVER shave his mustache N E V E R !!! To see him without his mustache was a HUGE MISTAKE on the director's part --- it was a disgraceful ending an insult to the character and the AMAZING author Dame Agatha Mary Clarissa Christie.
13:38 - If I understood correctly, his fiancee was on a train to come visit him in the hospital for Christmas and the train got his with a mortar shell. Really enjoyed this podcast!
I read the book a few months ago it's my first book from Agatha Christie that I have read I really enjoyed it definitely will be reading her other books 🙂
I will plan on making the video for the other two adaptations by the end of the month! The book won't be as fresh in my mind though (I should have watched the older versions the same time as the new adaptation...)
You need to view both the earlier adaptations of Death on the Nile featuring Peter Ustinov (1978) and also David Suchet (2004). The K Branagh version, in my opinion, is superficial and not patch on the other two….!!! I was so disappointed….! By the way, David Suchet is Poirot….!!!!!😊
I definitely would like you to compare the 1970's movie. I watched excerpts and it looks great. This 2022 movie stinks to high heaven. I would love to know the difference between the book and the 1970's film.
David Suchet played Poirot for many years, the 2004 version of Death on the Nile was almost exactly like the book, there were a few changes. But I would like to see you do something on that version and the 2010 version of Murder on the Orient Express.
Thanks! I started the one from the 70s but then never finished 😬 I think I saw that the Suchet version is available on RUclips so I'll plan on watching it
Were hesitant to comment, as I feel you’re very keen on what you doing. But what a hell, maybe it could be helpful. I see it is more of a podcast, but as video it would benefit to be better structured. Also repeating the same things is an issue, as well as too many personal recollections, that not giving any worth to the content. The rhythm and flow stumble with it all the time. Came here to hear the actual comparison between the book and movie, and get a glimpse of it just after half of huge 30m video. Resembles the slow movie exposition. Reducing the excess chat would make it solid tight 10-12 min, in my opinion of course. Don’t know if all your vids are like that, as this the only one I saw yet. Maybe my comments are irrelevant, excuse me if so. But the whole concept of channel is exiting and promising. I wish you growth, improvements and grateful audience. Maybe will check you on speaking with other you-tubers, which should be more a match to a podcast style. Anyway appreciate the work.
I'm sorry this video isn't what you were wanting, and I appreciate you leaving your comment. My channel is less than a year old and i want to read comments like yours so I can learn how to improve it. This started as a podcast, and last year I decided to film them as videos, while still releasing the audio as a podcast. I have thought of posting the full length video, then editing out certain clips that talk about certain moments and uploading them as like 5 minute videos for those who want shorter videos that are more focused. I would be curious if you feel this way about my other book vs movie videos as well. If you watch any others let me know if they are any better (or worse 😬 lol)
Good review. I think you should try out the new Batman. It is a comic book, but this version seems to be more noir and less superheroey, and so maybe it will be more to your taste? I dislike how the made Book a thief, as it ruined a really nice guy. I wish they made it the accountant or the other guy, the doctor.
Yeah, I haven't seen him in Murder on the Orient Express, but his character did seem like the type that would care so much about money. In the book it made me sense. And I probably will end up seeing Batman. Mainly I love Paul Dano! But it does look like it could be good...
Yeah that's correct! During the scene where Poirot is speaking with Jacqueling after drinking the champagne, and trying to dissuade her from the course she's on; he explains that he feels guilty for her death because he was to be discharged from the hospital but insisted that his fiancé come see him, and on the way there, her train is wrecked by and she's killed by that mortar shell.
I like his Murder on the Orient Express much better than this movie, The beginning and the end does not fit his character or anything he shared of his life. There is a back story in one of the short stories called; The Chocolate Box, his only failure. It is very good. My favorite of the two other adaptions, is the one with Peter Ustinov, but I love the David Suchet version too. Both are much better than this movie. I love a lot of the actors in this cast but I was so very disappointed in this film. I love the book, it was the first Agatha Christie I ever read.
You criticizing Poirot mustache LOL the whole point of his mustache is that IT IS ridiculous YET he is proud of it. The mustache is his unique trademark. Poirot without a mustache just isn't Poirot! But I guess only a true Agatha Christie fan would understand this...Part of Poirot's OCD behavior is to constantly focus and care for that mustache. Taking away Poirot's mustache is like taking away Sherlock Holmes' pipe ! It is just WRONG !!
Pls watch the original movie! It is soooooo goooood. In my opinion much better than the new movie. I guess it’s the charm of it :) and it has Maggy Smith in it.. can’t get any better than that :D
The 78 version is a thousand times better than the 2022 version. Fro. the cast to the production to the writng......There really is no comparison. 2022 was a stilted bore
if you don‘t remember the book‘s characters, finely honed & balanced by agatha christie, why are you talking about the book at all? sry for being kind of severe, but this is how disrespect begins. pennington is one of lynette‘s *trustees*, appointed in her father’s testament, not a mere accountant. so he is betraying her (and her father‘s trust) in a criminal sense. lynette‘s marriage is a real threat to him. et cetera. i stop watching now. don‘t be scatterbrained, you could do great stuff.
Suchet version of Death on the Nile was a MUSH better version where there director actually follow closely the book narrative- How about how RIDICULOUS was the plot about being shelled as they advanced into the enemy trenches??? That made no sense - Many characters were missing ... I really missed Cornelia and the socialist dude and the aristocrat and the pearls subplot incident and... LOL. Waaaayyy too much of the original plot was changed while Agatha Christie writing is already so wonderfully witty and clever those changes were really not necessary. It is just a different story. Scenes and wardrobe were breathtaking sure ....but I just dont think the movie is a faithful adaptation of the Death on the Nile novel by Agatha Christie....
The cinematography was horrible. Tight close ups on faces so there was no blocking or composition. The explaining scene was shot like an action movie with the Michael Bay rotating camera. The 70s version is a million times better, more charming, more authentic. This is plastic dross.
Movie was massively racist and written that way to push a narrative. They took a good story and ruined it to sell racism. Even the opening scene which is supposed to be historically accurate was inaccurate. Also added lesbians which I don’t think was in the book, but again they do that to push a narrative in the movie. I defiantly won’t see the next movie because of how they did this one, if they do another, older movies are better and cheaper/free.
This was the first book of Agatha Christie I ever read, and they changed the characters and their relationships so much to fit Hollywood’s view that it is almost unrecognisable from the book. The arrogance to think they can make a book written by a master and ‘improve it’ astounds me... I was really looking forward to seeing one of my favourite books on screen.
Yeah definitely some huge changes to the characters! The one from the 70s is closer to the book
Poirot had once been a policeman in Belgium in the books. He comes to England in The Mysterious Affair at Styles (published in 1916) as a Belgian refugee (he has already retired from the force).
Oh interesting!
YES !!! But during some time off from the Police Force in Belgian, he does some work as a detective (the Chocolate Box) where he meets his first true love interest: Virginie Mesnard - who gifts him the iconic lapel pin. Then, he becomes a true private detective in England since he is so good working with his "Little Gray Cells". LOL
Poirot did at least consider marrying the Countess Rossakoff at the end of the story The Capture of Cerberus. His confirming a large florist's bill and speculation that he might "marry and range myself" shock Miss Lemon into forgetting all about her filing system.
How can you not have seen the seventies version of this movie? It's the best.
I haven't seen the Kenneth Brannagh film but I have seen the Peter Ustinov version which is excellent. Mia Farrow and Simon Mccorquendale are also great as Jackie and Simon.
The 70s version of the movie is on youtube free movies! I just finished watching it then came straight here. You can see the differences in the choices between both movies. Plus, Angela Landsbury and Maggie Smith is in it!
I'd love to see a Book vs TV comparison. Suchet just kills it as Poirot (pun not intended).
Yeah I've watched the show and loved it! It's been a few years though
I agree, Suchet isPoirot.
@@WhytheBookWins The Suchet series is about 13 seasons long= I know many Poirots LOL but Suchet is by far the best = Suchet IS Poirot LOL He studied Poirot so well and portrait the character to the "T"... in my opinion.
Peter Ustinov played Poirot for laughs but was essentially very true to Christie's vision.
There was a line in the movie about how Jackie had the part of Cleopatra in a play but the director replaced her with Linnie a week before the show went on. The thought the movie was style over substance and over acted in parts. Like the film makers felt modern audiences would be bored with a straight forward murder mystery.
I would agree. I like Rose Leslie, but she was way too silly for Jackie who is a calculated vindictive character
If you enjoy Hercule Poirot I would suggest trying the british tv series by the same name with David Suchet as the Belgian detective. They did Murder on the Nile in 2004.
Suchet is the best Poirot IMHO.
Cover "The Mirror Cracked" The movie starred Elizabeth Taylor, Kim Novak, and Angela Lansbury as Miss Marple. The movie was the inspiration for "Murder, she wrote".
There isn’t a long setup of Poirot’s backstory in the book. Not having that would definitely have moved things along.
I would love to see a comparison of the book vs the 70’s movie. I really love that version. Hopefully it will become available on iTunes after the release of new version.
In a movie where Agatha actually tries to solve a murder, it is pointed out to her that it’s never the obvious person who does it in the murder mysteries so she wrote Death on the Nile so the twist was that the obvious person (people) did do it.
Genius! And while it felt like it should be the obvious person she wrote it in a way that made me think otherwise!
Just found your channel tonight. I would also love to hear a movie/book comparison of the Seventies version and also the David Suchet version which I think is the closest to the novel. (I listened to the audiobook last year). I have a soft spot for the Seventies’ version; it was filmed on location in Egypt, I’ve seen videos on the careful costume design and I can watch it over and over again. Also since Suchet is considered by many as the perfect Poirot, I enjoyed his version a lot (a young Emily Blunt is Lynette).
Great video. I’ll have to find your others as I’m a big book lover and an even bigger movie fan. 😀
I started the movie, and once I am down I will watch this one! I;ve seen some of the Suchet movies and agree he is wonderful!
This was pretty disappointing to me compared to Branagh’s prior Poirot film. The ‘78 film is also a rough act to follow given the excellent cast they had access to. The book is one of my mom’s favorite Poirot stories
It was quite obvious they might still be in love, I agree
I am not a Christie purist. In previous adaptions of Christie's works things have been changed and i am fine with that but Brannagh's Poirot is just so far from the base material. Poirot is not some self doubting, lovelorn, almost emo-esque man who also is a part time action hero. I loathe it.
same i prefer david suchet's sassy but kind poirot better
The 70s movie is a follow-up of the 1974 Orient Express one, in which Poirot is played by a phlegmatic Peter Ustinov. I by far prefer the characterization of David Suchet for Poirot - he better captures P's effete mannerisms. Nonetheless, they are both good movies that I would recommend.
There was a tv film with David Suchet (the best Poirot) which is worth a look too
In the book I was going back and forth; I remember thinking for a while it could be the accountant. The thing with the movie is that they made Simon and Jackie's motive obvious, but everyone else's motives felt like they were included almost as an afterthought.
What if, instead of the brief exposition we get in the movie the accountant has a full scene like he does in the book? He's in his office and hears about the marriage, and from his reaction we know he's in deep trouble. Then he rushes off to Egypt for the 'accidental' meeting. What if the movie had gone with the show, don't tell rule with the maid? Instead of waiting until after the murder for the maid to sit and tell her story to Poirot, how about having it brought up before the murder through some kind of interaction between the maid and Lynette? That way when the murder does happen we'd be thinking of several possibilities, all with solid reasoning. There was time for all of this. That's the main issue I have with including so much backstory for Poirot. I don't mind that they included more information about him, but it the screen time devoted to it would have been better spent establishing the motives of the other suspects.
Yeah definitely
if you are OKAY with Poirot shaving his mustache then you obviously do not know Poirot very well....Poirot WOULD HAVE NEVER shave his mustache N E V E R !!! To see him without his mustache was a HUGE MISTAKE on the director's part --- it was a disgraceful ending an insult to the character and the AMAZING author Dame Agatha Mary Clarissa Christie.
13:38 - If I understood correctly, his fiancee was on a train to come visit him in the hospital for Christmas and the train got his with a mortar shell.
Really enjoyed this podcast!
Thanks! I had a hard time hearing what he had said
I read the book a few months ago it's my first book from Agatha Christie that I have read I really enjoyed it definitely will be reading her other books 🙂
Yes please, compare the movie adaptations! Maybe even all three as there is also the tv version starring David Suchet.
I will plan on making the video for the other two adaptations by the end of the month! The book won't be as fresh in my mind though (I should have watched the older versions the same time as the new adaptation...)
I came across your channel and it's very interesting! I'd recommend making a lord of the rings books vs movies
I would like it, but I have a hard time reading fantasy 😬
I would like you to do a comparison of the book versus the seventies Death on the Nile. It was a favorite of mine growing up.
Thanks for the video. Would you have a link to your aversion to comic book movies video? Thanks.
ruclips.net/video/vZjahd3kZ4g/видео.html
I should remake this video because I think I could do it better now, but there the link!
You need to view both the earlier adaptations of Death on the Nile featuring Peter Ustinov (1978) and also David Suchet (2004). The K Branagh version, in my opinion, is superficial and not patch on the other two….!!! I was so disappointed….! By the way, David Suchet is Poirot….!!!!!😊
I watched the movie after reading the book unfortunately I didn't love the movie all that much
Yeah, can't say I will ever feel the need to rewatch it lol
I definitely would like you to compare the 1970's movie. I watched excerpts and it looks great. This 2022 movie stinks to high heaven. I would love to know the difference between the book and the 1970's film.
David Suchet played Poirot for many years, the 2004 version of Death on the Nile was almost exactly like the book, there were a few changes. But I would like to see you do something on that version and the 2010 version of Murder on the Orient Express.
Thanks! I started the one from the 70s but then never finished 😬 I think I saw that the Suchet version is available on RUclips so I'll plan on watching it
Were hesitant to comment, as I feel you’re very keen on what you doing. But what a hell, maybe it could be helpful.
I see it is more of a podcast, but as video it would benefit to be better structured. Also repeating the same things is an issue, as well as too many personal recollections, that not giving any worth to the content. The rhythm and flow stumble with it all the time.
Came here to hear the actual comparison between the book and movie, and get a glimpse of it just after half of huge 30m video. Resembles the slow movie exposition. Reducing the excess chat would make it solid tight 10-12 min, in my opinion of course.
Don’t know if all your vids are like that, as this the only one I saw yet. Maybe my comments are irrelevant, excuse me if so.
But the whole concept of channel is exiting and promising. I wish you growth, improvements and grateful audience.
Maybe will check you on speaking with other you-tubers, which should be more a match to a podcast style.
Anyway appreciate the work.
I'm sorry this video isn't what you were wanting, and I appreciate you leaving your comment. My channel is less than a year old and i want to read comments like yours so I can learn how to improve it.
This started as a podcast, and last year I decided to film them as videos, while still releasing the audio as a podcast.
I have thought of posting the full length video, then editing out certain clips that talk about certain moments and uploading them as like 5 minute videos for those who want shorter videos that are more focused.
I would be curious if you feel this way about my other book vs movie videos as well. If you watch any others let me know if they are any better (or worse 😬 lol)
Gal gadot also appears in some of the fast and the furious films I really liked her character in the franchise
I love your voice! 😍
Who reads books nowadays? The only reason why I watch your videos is because you look gorgeous.
Lol, thanks
You are so right it was so obvious who the killer is
Good review. I think you should try out the new Batman. It is a comic book, but this version seems to be more noir and less superheroey, and so maybe it will be more to your taste?
I dislike how the made Book a thief, as it ruined a really nice guy. I wish they made it the accountant or the other guy, the doctor.
Yeah, I haven't seen him in Murder on the Orient Express, but his character did seem like the type that would care so much about money. In the book it made me sense.
And I probably will end up seeing Batman. Mainly I love Paul Dano! But it does look like it could be good...
I think his fiancée was hit with a mortar shell, but I also may have misheard.
ooooh, that makes sense too
Yeah that's correct! During the scene where Poirot is speaking with Jacqueling after drinking the champagne, and trying to dissuade her from the course she's on; he explains that he feels guilty for her death because he was to be discharged from the hospital but insisted that his fiancé come see him, and on the way there, her train is wrecked by and she's killed by that mortar shell.
I was just annoyed at the period inappropriate dancing and the ridiculous opening!
I like his Murder on the Orient Express much better than this movie, The beginning and the end does not fit his character or anything he shared of his life. There is a back story in one of the short stories called; The Chocolate Box, his only failure. It is very good. My favorite of the two other adaptions, is the one with Peter Ustinov, but I love the David Suchet version too. Both are much better than this movie. I love a lot of the actors in this cast but I was so very disappointed in this film. I love the book, it was the first Agatha Christie I ever read.
Periot’s great love was a murder
The best version of the movie is bbc version with Emily blunt.
It’s closer to the book than the others
Who is giveaway winner dear
The youtuber Books I'm Not Reading 😁
I think he (Poirot) said his wife or girlfriend died on a train on her way to visit him for the holidays. I thought he said the train was bombed?
Yeah that's right. I had misheard when seeing the movie in theaters!
You criticizing Poirot mustache LOL the whole point of his mustache is that IT IS ridiculous YET he is proud of it. The mustache is his unique trademark. Poirot without a mustache just isn't Poirot! But I guess only a true Agatha Christie fan would understand this...Part of Poirot's OCD behavior is to constantly focus and care for that mustache. Taking away Poirot's mustache is like taking away Sherlock Holmes' pipe ! It is just WRONG !!
The 70s version is SO much better. I couldn't believe how bad this newer version was compared to the 70s version.
I did watch that one, but for some reason never did a follow up video on it 😬 But it is definitely a more faithful adaptation
@@WhytheBookWins also check out Evil Under the Sun. Its my daughter's favorite Hercule Poirot movie.
Pls watch the original movie! It is soooooo goooood. In my opinion much better than the new movie. I guess it’s the charm of it :) and it has Maggy Smith in it.. can’t get any better than that :D
The 78 version is a thousand times better than the 2022 version. Fro. the cast to the production to the writng......There really is no comparison.
2022 was a stilted bore
if you don‘t remember the book‘s characters, finely honed & balanced by agatha christie, why are you talking about the book at all? sry for being kind of severe, but this is how disrespect begins. pennington is one of lynette‘s *trustees*, appointed in her father’s testament, not a mere accountant. so he is betraying her (and her father‘s trust) in a criminal sense. lynette‘s marriage is a real threat to him. et cetera. i stop watching now. don‘t be scatterbrained, you could do great stuff.
Suchet version of Death on the Nile was a MUSH better version where there director actually follow closely the book narrative- How about how RIDICULOUS was the plot about being shelled as they advanced into the enemy trenches??? That made no sense - Many characters were missing ... I really missed Cornelia and the socialist dude and the aristocrat and the pearls subplot incident and... LOL. Waaaayyy too much of the original plot was changed while Agatha Christie writing is already so wonderfully witty and clever those changes were really not necessary. It is just a different story. Scenes and wardrobe were breathtaking sure ....but I just dont think the movie is a faithful adaptation of the Death on the Nile novel by Agatha Christie....
The cinematography was horrible. Tight close ups on faces so there was no blocking or composition. The explaining scene was shot like an action movie with the Michael Bay rotating camera.
The 70s version is a million times better, more charming, more authentic. This is plastic dross.
Movie was massively racist and written that way to push a narrative. They took a good story and ruined it to sell racism. Even the opening scene which is supposed to be historically accurate was inaccurate. Also added lesbians which I don’t think was in the book, but again they do that to push a narrative in the movie. I defiantly won’t see the next movie because of how they did this one, if they do another, older movies are better and cheaper/free.