Thanks Tom. My 68 M20C Ranger is just about ready to fly after a lengthy renovation. I bought it because these Mooneys have it all. Speed, economy and fun. Keep up the great videos!
Great video! I start flight training in two weeks. My end-game is to find a good Mooney (or maybe a Cardinal) and work on my instrument rating. Of course i found the perfect one but don't even have my ticket yet 😕
I fly a ‘65 M20E and absolutely love it. We did an extensive panel redo this last spring and it’s a dream to fly. Only thing it’s missing is FIKI and autopilot for it to be the perfect plane
Had an E with the Johnson Bar. Put an alternator on it. Put some bladders in it. Flew from TX to Seattle, WA, Washington DC. , Pittsburgh, PA , Billings, MT. Flew in and out of Aspen with 3 people on board in the summer. That thing was a traveling machine. Wish I still had it. Got stranded in Billings on 9/11 after doing the prebuy inspection. Don't be high and fast on final or you are screwed. I flew that thing as high as possible if winds were favoring me. Sometimes had groundspeeds over 200 mph sipping fuel.
Tom I am so glad I found your page. My dad owned an M20E 1966 when we were young and I can tell you the wonderful number of years that we spent helping out with annuals, plane washes, and touch and goes... Just all the things that owning a plane needs. But the most important factor was the family time that we got to spend with that plane. I will be following you, I love the way you make your videos. Again I thank you!
For GA they are my favorite single low-wing retractable. They are fast, with an efficient, low-cost-to-operate engine. They fly slow predictably. They are light on the controls. They are simple. They just fly right. It's the only one with all of those traits in that type of aircraft. They were the mechanical lever gear like this one. I've never flown the newer ones so I don't know what they have. I would say that for a flight school that something that puts the gear down automatically if you forget would make insurance cost a lot less. The Arrows used to do that. Maybe others do that too. The Arrows were heavy on the controls and didn't fly nearly as fast or nice. Nice airplane you have there. I went academy and military after that and never got back into GA. I was always so busy, then family, etc., etc., then didn't want to spend the money on that, etc. I probably won't now. A simple CFII friend of mine bought a house on an airport and had a small hangar out back for his Mooney and Pitts. You will have more fun in GA like you are doing than anything else so don't aspire to more because it can turn into less. As soon as the aircraft gets big enough to where you need a reason to fly it, or you are told when and where, it's a different ballgame. You need to set pride aside and determine what your vision is for quality of life.
Great video! in all honesty and sincerity because i want you to know....please watch mike busch webinar on leaning. Of course below 65% power you can put the mixture anywhere you want. Running 100 ROP is better than most running 50. but your not really flying any faster...if you get a few more knots to use all that extra fuel, most places you go, you could count the time difference on one or two hands at most. Anyway just a suggestion. Lean of peak will give more longevity to your engine
Have fun with it Tom. It’s a great airplane. My buddy and I bought a 1979 M20K Turbo Mooney on a handshake in 1995. It was a great airplane especially when we flew it up high. We sold it in 2010 and it was favored down to Argentina.
Nice video. Good call not landing for unknown fuel availability. Just a thought…. Foreflight/airport data/ FBO allows you to call the FBO with one touch. Throttle back, slow up for noise, and you should be able to use an iPhone there. Might have to shout. During COVID, I found that I did that a lot as FBOs closed up without warning.
I haven’t started PPL but your mission is the same as mine. Fly my family around and get there quick. This of course led me to Mooney. Interested in your journey. Subscribed.
Good job! I started out with my purchase of a 150 a couple years ago then moved to a 65 Mooney w/johnson bar. I'm still learning. Great idea immersing yourself and learning the little things with a Mooney specialist over a couple days. I think I'll try it.
I noticed you have a preflight LOTOT note to yourself in there as well. HUGE thing that is not really taught and is a lifesaver for sure.. Awesome.. nice ride!
C carb heat G gas to the correct tank U undercarriage down n locked/ welded 😉 M mixture rich for landing P prop Only criticism I see was landing... CENTERLINE... 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏👏👍 I learned to fly at a Class D airport so that was amazing for radio confidence. If you have a Delta near by they are generally pretty good about working with you and your radio work if you want to sharpen up that aspect. Overall great job, beautiful plane, not jelly at all.🤘🤘
Great content! My father flew a M20E through the 1960s ferrying medical supllies and equipment. I just got the tail number from his flight logbook, and sure enough, that plane is still registered, airworthy and presumably flying to this day. I might have to contact the owner about it - I have a postcard my father sent to my mother describing the harrowing 650 mile flight he made from New Orleans to Lexington Kentucky he made in a previous Mooney. 1/2 of that flight was described as "IFR", but that wasn't the scary part. The scary part was the "Fell asleep on autopilot over Jackson (Miss) woke over Memphis when engine quit. First rembember switching to LH tank Dexamil (a stimulant/barbituate long ago pulled from the market) useless"....followed by "Continued on IFR to Nashville....then IFR to Lexington..." I plotted it all out on Google Maps. He must have been out cold for over an hour. His Mooney covered 172 nm, with it's pilot totally incapacitated. Papa Bear only regained conciousness when the engine stopped due to fuel starvation. It doesn't get any worse than that in an airplane from what I gather. At least not without people getting hurt or killed. He woke up, switched tanks, noted the IFR conditions, filed with Nashville ATC, and flew another 350 miles or so under IFR. This was in 1962. Navigation was all by maps, dead recoking log, compass and RDF technology. Two things strike me as funny / ironic about the above incident: 1) The last sentence of the postcard ended with "...I was in pretty sorry shape." Which begs the question: Why is that? He had nice long nap half-way through the trip. =) ...and 2) If he hadn't woken up, I wouldn't be writing this. It happened 2 years before I was born. ...and why am I currently so obsessed with my father's aviation history? Because I'm almost 60 years old, and I've always wanted to learn to fly. I figure it's getting to be now or never time in that regard ;-)
Thank you for this video. I enjoyed it. The detailed MPs and RPMs for the landing were really helpful. I am flight simulator not a real pilot like you.
Not to get into your personal life but I am a new pilot, 60hrs logged in a C172. I will be in the market in a few months for a M20. What insurance do you use and what is the average cost of it for a low time pilot. I still need my complex and high performance endorsement. Do you have the contact for the guy who trained you in it? I may be interested using him. Thanks
Ha. Made a video on this exact topic 🙂. ruclips.net/video/AceSIuYn0F0/видео.html. My instructor’s name was Sam Lindsay. DM on Instagram or Facebook and I’ll give you his contact info. He’s amazing btw.
Man, I'm coming from only 172 experience to a Mooney. I'm pretty nervous about it. Do you love it more than the flying style and high wing of the Cessna?
@@Tommyflies I’m about to start flying a Mooney from a Cessna as well haha I heard the plane floats down the runway if you barely add power on landings
What happened to the vacuum step? You should replace it or fabricate cover the hole in the bottom of the fuselage. It will suck in debris over time. Great choice of airplane. I would not trade my manual gear F for any other single engine retract recip.
Very good informative video for me since I'm about to purchase my 2nd A/C which will be bet M20C ; E or ; extended F , G.. I'll be transitioning from a Tomahawk.
Great video and very informative! I just recently purchased a 1985 Mooney M20J. I started a RUclips channel where I fly my Mooney cross country and repossess vehicles.
I'm a relatively new pilot (130 hours) mostly in 150s and 172s. Looking at a M20e. Thanks for your video. Curious what your insurance rate was and from whom? Thanks a ton this is super helpful!
Climbing 2000 ft over your intended altitude is pretty naive. And in places like my area you would be flying right into the bravo airspace above. Must be nice not having airspace’s to fly around.
The handoff through another pilot was great to hear. Amazing aviation community in US
Thanks Tom. My 68 M20C Ranger is just about ready to fly after a lengthy renovation. I bought it because these Mooneys have it all. Speed, economy and fun. Keep up the great videos!
I have an M20C also. You just can't beat the bang for the buck of these planes as long as you are not trying to haul 4 people along with you :)
A320 Captain here. Good video. I’m actually looking at buying my first plane, and I’m considering the M20J. Liked and subbed.
Great video! I start flight training in two weeks. My end-game is to find a good Mooney (or maybe a Cardinal) and work on my instrument rating. Of course i found the perfect one but don't even have my ticket yet 😕
I fly a ‘65 M20E and absolutely love it. We did an extensive panel redo this last spring and it’s a dream to fly. Only thing it’s missing is FIKI and autopilot for it to be the perfect plane
Had an E with the Johnson Bar. Put an alternator on it. Put some bladders in it. Flew from TX to Seattle, WA, Washington DC. , Pittsburgh, PA , Billings, MT. Flew in and out of Aspen with 3 people on board in the summer. That thing was a traveling machine. Wish I still had it. Got stranded in Billings on 9/11 after doing the prebuy inspection. Don't be high and fast on final or you are screwed. I flew that thing as high as possible if winds were favoring me. Sometimes had groundspeeds over 200 mph sipping fuel.
Tom I am so glad I found your page. My dad owned an M20E 1966 when we were young and I can tell you the wonderful number of years that we spent helping out with annuals, plane washes, and touch and goes... Just all the things that owning a plane needs. But the most important factor was the family time that we got to spend with that plane. I will be following you, I love the way you make your videos. Again I thank you!
For GA they are my favorite single low-wing retractable. They are fast, with an efficient, low-cost-to-operate engine. They fly slow predictably. They are light on the controls. They are simple. They just fly right. It's the only one with all of those traits in that type of aircraft. They were the mechanical lever gear like this one. I've never flown the newer ones so I don't know what they have. I would say that for a flight school that something that puts the gear down automatically if you forget would make insurance cost a lot less. The Arrows used to do that. Maybe others do that too. The Arrows were heavy on the controls and didn't fly nearly as fast or nice. Nice airplane you have there.
I went academy and military after that and never got back into GA. I was always so busy, then family, etc., etc., then didn't want to spend the money on that, etc. I probably won't now. A simple CFII friend of mine bought a house on an airport and had a small hangar out back for his Mooney and Pitts. You will have more fun in GA like you are doing than anything else so don't aspire to more because it can turn into less. As soon as the aircraft gets big enough to where you need a reason to fly it, or you are told when and where, it's a different ballgame. You need to set pride aside and determine what your vision is for quality of life.
Great video! in all honesty and sincerity because i want you to know....please watch mike busch webinar on leaning. Of course below 65% power you can put the mixture anywhere you want. Running 100 ROP is better than most running 50. but your not really flying any faster...if you get a few more knots to use all that extra fuel, most places you go, you could count the time difference on one or two hands at most. Anyway just a suggestion. Lean of peak will give more longevity to your engine
Great job. I had a TLS turbo for a few years and it was great to “fly” with you today.
Have fun with it Tom. It’s a great airplane. My buddy and I bought a 1979 M20K Turbo Mooney on a handshake in 1995. It was a great airplane especially when we flew it up high. We sold it in 2010 and it was favored down to Argentina.
Nice video. Good call not landing for unknown fuel availability. Just a thought…. Foreflight/airport data/ FBO allows you to call the FBO with one touch. Throttle back, slow up for noise, and you should be able to use an iPhone there. Might have to shout. During COVID, I found that I did that a lot as FBOs closed up without warning.
I haven’t started PPL but your mission is the same as mine. Fly my family around and get there quick. This of course led me to Mooney. Interested in your journey. Subscribed.
Good job! I started out with my purchase of a 150 a couple years ago then moved to a 65 Mooney w/johnson bar. I'm still learning. Great idea immersing yourself and learning the little things with a Mooney specialist over a couple days. I think I'll try it.
Nice video! I transitioned with Sam as well, I’m in upstate SC and fly a C. Just did I my BFR with him!
Sam’s a good dude 🤙
Tell me about your shoulder belt setup. Is that an STC?
I used to have beautiful hair myself. Consider it the modern version of the old scarf in the open cockpit. Like the videos, Thanks
I flew mooneys for 37 yrs great airplane.
A little advice I wouldn’t recommend using power boost under 5000ft reasoning there’s a lot of bugs that can get into your intake
Good stuff Tom. looks like you have transitioned well.
Check the antenna ground for your radios.
I too like to fly my Mooney at night.
Fellow Mooney owner, and instructor. I do check outs for new Mooney pilots, too. Looks like you got excellent training from your CFI.
Where are you located?
@@DC-nc6vt near San antonio
I think I would get that radio, feedline and antenna checked out..... I am an old Mooney pilot and radio guy for a long time. Good luck.....
I noticed you have a preflight LOTOT note to yourself in there as well. HUGE thing that is not really taught and is a lifesaver for sure.. Awesome.. nice ride!
It’s insane that they don’t teach this in general aviation.
I have not started ppl training. What is lotot?
@@thefreshies loss of thrust on takeoff.
C carb heat
G gas to the correct tank
U undercarriage down n locked/ welded 😉
M mixture rich for landing
P prop
Only criticism I see was landing... CENTERLINE... 🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏👏👍
I learned to fly at a Class D airport so that was amazing for radio confidence. If you have a Delta near by they are generally pretty good about working with you and your radio work if you want to sharpen up that aspect.
Overall great job, beautiful plane, not jelly at all.🤘🤘
I like GUMP - GAS, UNDERCARRIAGE, MIXTURE, PROP
No carb heat on my Mooney - IO-360, so GUMP for me!
Great content! My father flew a M20E through the 1960s ferrying medical supllies and equipment. I just got the tail number from his flight logbook, and sure enough, that plane is still registered, airworthy and presumably flying to this day. I might have to contact the owner about it -
I have a postcard my father sent to my mother describing the harrowing 650 mile flight he made from New Orleans to Lexington Kentucky he made in a previous Mooney. 1/2 of that flight was described as "IFR", but that wasn't the scary part. The scary part was the "Fell asleep on autopilot over Jackson (Miss) woke over Memphis when engine quit. First rembember switching to LH tank Dexamil (a stimulant/barbituate long ago pulled from the market) useless"....followed by "Continued on IFR to Nashville....then IFR to Lexington..."
I plotted it all out on Google Maps. He must have been out cold for over an hour. His Mooney covered 172 nm, with it's pilot totally incapacitated. Papa Bear only regained conciousness when the engine stopped due to fuel starvation. It doesn't get any worse than that in an airplane from what I gather. At least not without people getting hurt or killed. He woke up, switched tanks, noted the IFR conditions, filed with Nashville ATC, and flew another 350 miles or so under IFR. This was in 1962.
Navigation was all by maps, dead recoking log, compass and RDF technology.
Two things strike me as funny / ironic about the above incident:
1) The last sentence of the postcard ended with "...I was in pretty sorry shape." Which begs the question: Why is that? He had nice long nap half-way through the trip. =)
...and
2) If he hadn't woken up, I wouldn't be writing this. It happened 2 years before I was born.
...and why am I currently so obsessed with my father's aviation history? Because I'm almost 60 years old, and I've always wanted to learn to fly. I figure it's getting to be now or never time in that regard ;-)
Dude…. Wild!
That is insane. Autopilot will just keep pulling back !!!! Wild
Love this Tom cheers!
These old M20s are sweet! I like the late '90's glass cockpit models that mom and I helped build!
Thank you for this video. I enjoyed it. The detailed MPs and RPMs for the landing were really helpful. I am flight simulator not a real pilot like you.
Not to get into your personal life but I am a new pilot, 60hrs logged in a C172. I will be in the market in a few months for a M20. What insurance do you use and what is the average cost of it for a low time pilot. I still need my complex and high performance endorsement. Do you have the contact for the guy who trained you in it? I may be interested using him. Thanks
Ha. Made a video on this exact topic 🙂. ruclips.net/video/AceSIuYn0F0/видео.html. My instructor’s name was Sam Lindsay. DM on Instagram or Facebook and I’ll give you his contact info. He’s amazing btw.
@@Tommyflies awesome, thank you very much!
Hello
Are you still looking for a Mooney?
Thanks for sharing!
Pretty rad
I like the Mooney..... one thing that has always puzzled me though is why do they only have the single door?
Like the Piper Cherokees. That’s just the way it is
It would add a lot of weight to the structure.
Still a student and always wanted a J, but to fly around the southeast, I think an E might be the better option.
Basically the same airplane. Just more rear seat legroom in the J. I think the E I just a liiittle faster too.
Man, I'm coming from only 172 experience to a Mooney. I'm pretty nervous about it. Do you love it more than the flying style and high wing of the Cessna?
Totally different kind of flying but I love it. I love managing the airplane.
@@Tommyflies I’m about to start flying a Mooney from a Cessna as well haha I heard the plane floats down the runway if you barely add power on landings
What happened to the vacuum step? You should replace it or fabricate cover the hole in the bottom of the fuselage. It will suck in debris over time. Great choice of airplane. I would not trade my manual gear F for any other single engine retract recip.
It’s still there, just safety wired up. The vacuum actuator is missing. I plan to replace it with the electric version eventually
Very Cool!
Very good informative video for me since I'm about to purchase my 2nd A/C which will be bet M20C ; E or ; extended F , G.. I'll be transitioning from a Tomahawk.
One of the first planes I piloted. Thx for this
Was the instructor Sam L? I need transition training in NC…
It was. If you use him, please let him know I recommended him.🙂
Great video and very informative! I just recently purchased a 1985 Mooney M20J. I started a RUclips channel where I fly my Mooney cross country and repossess vehicles.
What kind of CHTs do you see at 13.5gph and 25x2500?
Your Mooney climbs as fast as my 172 cruises
would ya look at that
Hahaha, dude good stuff! Glad I’m not the only one struggling with talking to the cameras while on FF! Nice editing!
WHEN I MOVED FROM A C TO A J IT WAS TOTALY DIFFERENT.
My eyes and ears are eating these videos like candy.
Mine are to and I’m not a pilot. I enjoy watching them.
@@mikestandifer1549 Me neither, but I sure wish I could be.
@@eyesea123 you can be it's time and money and some good health too
Awesome Flying! Are you working towards airline? What is your current job? I want to get my PPL and curious if it’s out of reach with my current job…
I'm a relatively new pilot (130 hours) mostly in 150s and 172s. Looking at a M20e. Thanks for your video. Curious what your insurance rate was and from whom? Thanks a ton this is super helpful!
ruclips.net/video/AceSIuYn0F0/видео.html
130 Octane!?!?
Congrats man!! Your plane is bad ass!! Are you going to work on your Instrument rating?
The auto pilot works 100% of the time 60% of the time. :)
Then cut it...
what do you do for a living
Climbing 2000 ft over your intended altitude is pretty naive. And in places like my area you would be flying right into the bravo airspace above. Must be nice not having airspace’s to fly around.
Roger that is not a thing.
How much for everything?