Brissett should be the starter for the next several games. Maye is hopefully the Patriots future. Bring Maye in week against the Colts. Let Maye learn safely on the sideline until then.
Patriots are so bad, that Drake Maye is the only thing they can talk about. Brady was great at throwing the ball away when a sack was inevitable. It was an underappreciated skill. It's a skill Jacoby doesn't have, there's a desire to make a play when you are down, but throwing it away and coming back for another set of downs is often the better option.
Brisset has no field vision . He had 15 passing yards and 1 pick 6 at the end of the first quarter. Stevenson has 4 fumbles because 3 out of 4 plays they’re handing the ball to him . Let’s get Maye in there , if he gets hurt he gets hurt but he is not learning a thing from Jacoby .
@@DeeKay617 I'm talking about the fact Cam could scramble. He was a threat with his legs. That would make a world of difference with this current situation.
@jonmichael3280 Doesn't look good man , ii feel like even if we get the players we need idk about these coaches at all .... feels like the 90s again for us Pat's fans
@@Maltese280zx I agree it's a dumb move but panic move is crazy I think the page just wants us 2 accept tanking. Don't understand why u would start maye soon
@@Maltese280zx 100s of QBs overcame a bad line lol rather him get starts this year then next year he gets first start you basically just a loser who's already accepted defeat. Caleb Williams got a bad line wonda why they playing him?
Injuries/time they are out there 20 minutes more every game than the offense fatigue sets in along with discouragement this happened last year with mac now it’s happening with brissett tell me if you played defense on this team if you’d be giving it your all when you know brissett is going out there to go 3 an out 9/10 times
@@Phinjarvus I totally agree. Defense is out there way too long. Balance of time is totally gone. Defense has got to be exhausted, a long with injuries. Terrible situation.
The O- line is a mess. Jacoby does miss open receivers. The offensive scheme should be designed better, more play action, more screen passes maybe? But, I think Drake Maye should be installed in small doses, for experience. I have a lot of respect for Jacoby. A true Warrior. O- line is as bad as it could get. Ay yi yi!
The offensive line is a fireable offense. REMEMBER they CHOSE this, they chose not to sign anyone other than Okorafor (unproven RT to play LT). This isn’t a Jacoby conversation, this needs to be a ‘should Eliot wolf be fired’ conversation.
This is an offensive roster that lacks NFL-caliber players, especially on the line. These bums wouldn't make a lot of NFL rosters, and yet, they're starting for us.
Ticket sales will start dropping soon. Not only bc of this season, but 5 years of bad team building. They'll throw the kid in most likely because of this. Cancelling my Paramount +. Not worth my time & $.
I actually don't mind going 4 or 5 more weeks with Brissett. I never had expectations for this season and after the Judon trade, I knew this would be a throw away season. The only thing that bothers me is that the OL is so bad that I don't think one off-season can turn it around.
Nah I still ain't starting Drake Maye and ruining him behind this OLine...they should have given Maye the final quarter once the game was effectively over to get some live reps and that's how they should play it for the rest of the year...get a high draft pick and take a franchise tackle and sign the best available tackle in FA...hopefully a decent WR comes available that they can pay in FA without giving up a draft pick...
Doesnt mean shyt excuses all i hear next year oline could be same then what ? Weapons could be same or the rookies what then stop yall BS play Maye see what he is cuz honestly he might make these better we dont know that an wont till he plays
This is so dumb y’all, the dude obviously has to play at some point this year but there’s so much risk in putting him behind what could be a historically bad offensive line as currently constructed. There is almost no risk in waiting longer (until the last quarter of the year). Get a couple starters back, figure out some semblance of a workable offensive scheme, and then throw him in. Say what you want about who overcame adversity who didn’t and all that, there are little to no examples of anyone getting worse or becoming a bust just because they had to wait to play. We’re literally talking about a matter of weeks here, the team may suck right now but jesus we can wait like regular fans if that’s what gives him the best chance to succeed.
I don’t know why anyone surprised we said from the beginning the Patriots have the hardest schedule in the first month in the NFL. We did not expect them to even win one game.
Very true, but my hope was that we would see improvement as the season goes on. Injuries and poor play have shown us regression week after week. That’s what worries me .
funny how brisset played so much better for the pats back when belichick was coaching. if brisset is 95% of the problem, then alex van pelt is 500% the problem, mayo is 1000% the problem, kraft is 1000000% the problem, and get ready for drake maye because he's about to be 10000000000% the problem
@@JJ-ud9ldbrissett was never that great with the pats. He played with a Super Bowl caliber roster and the offense was significantly hamstrung when he was the starter.
Tom Everything Curran, Start Drake Maye Sunday against the Dolphins, he will give this team a jolt that they desperately need. This season is not lost! Stop with that stupid narrative. Love you, brother.
I am. I'm happier watching them lose than watching that gross fraud who spitefully lost a super bowl and ruined this team standing on the sidelines getting his ass kissed by the media as if he'd ever done anything without Brady. Good riddance.
What did people expect when the Pats have no o-line, little to no talent at the skill positions and a very mediocre QB? You get this. This is what you get, the worst offense in football.
At this juncture, so many of the problems with the current team are either due to a lack of experience (youth) or a large talent gap. Or both. This is a rebuilding process and it obviously wont happen quickly. Another good score of draft picks next year and then hopefully we can make it to a 500 club status. Time will tell.
You ask the wrong question. You ask if Maye started all games would the pats be 1-3 and you say they might be 0-4. The question to ask s not that. It is who gives the Pats the best chance to win moving forward and next week vs Miami and I think Maye does. He has sat for 4 games and there is value to that but now is time to take the bubble wrap off.
It feels like Mayo has a little trauma from calling the defense the past few years and watching an offense that couldn’t stay on the field and had a solid defense gassed every week because they were constantly on the field. I feel like he’s partially to blame probably telling Jacoby to not turn it over which impacts the QBs decisions. Qb is meant to play free, make the plays that are there and don’t be afraid to push the ball. Playing safe. I also believe you need to learn from making mistakes and playing.
I don't think if it's a panic move. Ive seen Brisset over the years since he was drafted. He's a decent QB if he has a clean pocket. He never had a quick release. If Drake has a quicker release, he can alleviate alot of the offensive line problems. When TB12 was in his early yrs, that's what Belichek did. Dink & dunk 5-10 yds, mixed with a decent running game. They didn't have any talented receivers but they got the ball out in 2.5 seconds! Paired with a good D. The 2001 champions was regarded by then "experts" as the least talented contender.
If you want to play Maye, do it. You might get 2 or 3 good to great out of the pocket plays, but he will get injure and will lose him for the rest of the season. Do media guys want to give uo what they want the most for what they want now?
Don’t start him yet. Wait till Chicago or something. We need that next draft to get the best tackle. Don’t take any chances on not getting a top pic. If you put Drake out there, you might win some games.
People forget when Andrew Luck retired. The Colts had a great offense but they could barely score 20 points with Brissett at QB. Yes it's time for the rookie to have his baptism by fire.
This team might not be “ready” for Drake for a decade. I had a lot of faith in Wolf and Mayo coming into the season, almost all of it is gone. The personnel and coaching get worse on a weekly basis. You CANNOT sit Maye the entire season, one more offseason is not gonna wave a magic wand over this roster. The more the team embarrasses itself on a weekly basis the more long term damage they’re doing to their brand, as well as the internal belief of the players currently rostered.
People said we got a bad oline. Didn’t Washington n Chicago had the worst lineman last year?? Look at Jayden Daniel’s and Caleb Williams now. Idk if Jacoby is that bad but give drake maye or Joe Milton n let’s see the difference please.
Yup. Pats will be in a 2-4 year rebuild. They need to build a line around Maye, pick up one very solid receiver and another good receiver. We also need a secondary running back who is a short pass threat.
Unless the coaches can get Jacoby to let it fly more quickly they will have no choice to play Maye sooner than they would like. He is consistently holding the ball too long. AVP seems like a great guy but his play calling leaves a lot to be desired.
Start Joe Milton at least and let him take some pressure off the O line. Allows Drake more time to develop and maybe gets teams to stop blitzing all the time.
No time for panic. We suck, and everyone knows it. It may take 10 years to be competitive again. Just brace yourself. Stick it out, if you really like them, and care.
I am ready to have Drake out there as soon as they can make the O-line at least serviceable. But i don’t think they should put him out there as long as the o-line is a complete disaster
I have to wonder, with so many early season injuries on this team, what's going on with Jerod Mayos brother, you know, the "sTReNgth AnD COndItiOniNg cOAch"?
No! The OL will look better with him. Jacoby with all pros across the OL still wouldn’t be effective. He has to wait for players to come open, holds the ball too long, no anticipation, can’t throw past his 1st read. Maye is a big, smart tough young man. He can handle it. Jacoby is not a starting NFL QB, no amount of protection and all pros is going to change that.
Bro don’t tell me he’s going to learn sitting on a frigen bench, I would rather watch Maye fail and learn playing than watch Brisset waste the few opportunities we have to move the ball
Are we not concerned about the development of Pop Douglas, Polk, and Baker?? The offense can’t function with Brissett unless we’re just running the ball and dumping it off. It’s counterproductive and ruining the franchise’s progress. PLAY MAYE!!
Elliot Wolf needs to draft THE guy on the O-line, not 2 or 3 MAYBE’s and try to piece things together. As of now they should go for a top 3 pic and get a starting left tackle or a true #1 receiver. It feels like a continuation of Bill’s drafting too cute thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room.
What is maye learning from brissett at this point the guy despite being a veteran can’t read defenses even which is supposed to be his only strong suit
Along with the fact brissett gets upset whenever they ask about maye he seems almost resentful watch his interviews an tell me this guy is doing his best to help maye learn
Tom, love you mean it! But you’re making wayyyy too many excuses for Mayo and this coaching staff. I understand it’s a long rebuild but the way you’re making excuses for everyone on mayos staff to injuries and o line is a bit ridiculous. These guys do not look prepared for the little things and don’t look like a well coached team.
The more games they win, the lower the pick will be. We're in the rebuild years and it's gonna look rough for a while. Maye isn't good enough to carry a game
With 2 seconds to get a throw off? I would not allow Maye to start behind this line, no way. Want to ruin a potential franchise QB, then go on and start him.
Keep starting Jacoby. This is awesome. 🎉 The team loves it and supports it and if things go right maybe we can get the biggest phoney ever dion sellout sanders golden egg kid. That'll work out well
Maybe they should bench Brissett along with Van Pelt as they are both loyal to one another. Pats are just boring they need to get creative that's is where Drake Maye comes in into play.
i think with maye, it's an organization failure on the pats part if he's not ready to play in the very immediate future. daniels is playing, and obviously is in a good situation with a coordinator who knows how to use him well. williams is doing well enough and is at least out there. at some point, no more bs, which is what is is, about maye is "doing well in practice" and if he's the real deal. if he's competent, he needs to play. simple. if he isn't playing, then he must be playing well enough to earn that. that's all there is to it. everything relative to your peers. daniels is playing; williams is playing. when pats lost to dallas and saints last yr, the calls were to remove mac from quarterback position. the exact same thing has now repated with brissett, with jets loss and now niners loss. yet brissett has the swagger of someone who knows he's not going to lose his job. forget about the play maye issue.the issue is also that brissett is playing bad. simple. mac was held accountable for that every day of every week. brissett makes 6 million more than mac (about), is yrs older, has more experience, and is not facing nearly the same scrutiny. curran has said often that mac was a "mental puddle" at the end. hey, if you media apply even 50% of the pressure you applied to mac for every single mistake last yr, brissett will be too. and at least mac wanted to win and gave everything to try to win. is brissett a tough guy who gets up? okay. but he's not nearly as competitive a nature as mac. it comes down to the organization got ticked off with mac because he called out things that weren't working. brissett doesn't, so they don't care. kraft, the pats in general look really bad right now. and it's not even worth criticizing them because that's how they are: trash talkers and making both mac and belichick beg to try to stay, and then silent and protected when it's been proven that neither mac or belichick (or o'brien) were the problem.
@@polandfresh101 rookies especially at the QB position rarely start their first season. The FO knows their O line is trash. They aren’t willing to risk their potential future franchise player to go get snapped up and be useless. Truth be told patriots just weren’t ready to draft a qb as they have no offensive line. It is actually disgraceful that bellichick left this roster in such terrible shape. A majority of Brady’s success was predicted upon the o line that was built before he even stepped on the field when drew Bledsoe got hurt.
@@Celtics2025 That’s actually a good example of why having a good offensive line doesn’t guarantee ANYTHING. Bledsoe got injured behind a good o-line and so did Brady in 2008. It’s very unlikely that the pats o-line is significantly better to start the year next year anyways. The kid needs to play. Also, many rookies do start. Williams, Daniels, and Nix are all starting and Penix probably would be if he wasn’t drafted by Atlanta.
So the #3 pick sites on the sidelines while the team goes 3-14 then next year, of the O-line gets better, you'll play him with a year gone and still no experience I'm tired of these whiners.
Get a few more O line players back and then start Maye! Billionaire Robert Kraft needs to provide a better product for the. Fans! Pats are one of the most expensive ticket in sports!
The Krafts should sell the team as long as they are in charge nothings gonna change if they just rely on the draft gotta open up the checkbook sometimes too
Never forget Tommy boy here said all last year Mac was the guy. I promise u nobody knows less about football than this man speaking I dare u too even try . I have his quotes I'll eviscerate u . You know 10x more than this guy
Pats are not entertaining. A rookie QB will not fix that given his overall football experience. Let’’s do what bad teams do and put in Maye so we can talk crap about him after we watch him flail around behind this line.
@@polandfresh101 Meant more over past seasons, as in Jets, Bears, Texans who had years of bad QB play with top draft choices. THis year’s Chicago and Washington have real NFL WRs and much better line play, so not a valid comparison to the Pats, who have neither.
That´s 1 player...what bout the rest?i think there are more problems than that oline ...mayo,kraft are clueless!are these the patriots they wanna see after 2 decades winning?drake needs 2 worldclass receivers or it´s not gonna work with polk alone.
What is this millennial BS??? You don’t get any extra points for being “cautious, in the NFL!!!! How is Maye supposed to learn, behind a QB that can’t throw, makes poor decisions, and can’t even run?!?!? At least Maye can extend plays, instead of holding the ball like a statue. Football players PLAY football!!! 🤯🤯 They don’t just sit on the bench in order to protect their confidence!
There's no hope for the o line. Brissett is the wrong QB for a extremely bad o line because he lacks mobility. He's basically a statue in the pocket.
That’s what I said if we had somebody back there a little more mobile it would not look as bad
Brissett is just not it I get he tough he don’t make a lot of mistakes but he’s not going to help win games either
Brissett should be the starter for the next several games. Maye is hopefully the Patriots future. Bring Maye in week against the Colts. Let Maye learn safely on the sideline until then.
Patriots are so bad, that Drake Maye is the only thing they can talk about.
Brady was great at throwing the ball away when a sack was inevitable. It was an underappreciated skill. It's a skill Jacoby doesn't have, there's a desire to make a play when you are down, but throwing it away and coming back for another set of downs is often the better option.
Yeah I remember Brady throwing it away a lot at times. It was annoying but effective at preventing yardage loss.
THIS IS A FIRST-YEAR COACHING-STAFF!!! WTH!?? SUMMA YALL WILIN’!
Brisset has no field vision . He had 15 passing yards and 1 pick 6 at the end of the first quarter. Stevenson has 4 fumbles because 3 out of 4 plays they’re handing the ball to him . Let’s get Maye in there , if he gets hurt he gets hurt but he is not learning a thing from Jacoby .
Bad O-Line and a QB that throws with no anticipation. Bad mix.
Agree 100%. Add in play calling that’s designed to “not lose,” instead of being at least slightly aggressive
There best player is the kicker!
You could've paid Cam league minimum to come out of retirement and got better production from the QB
Did you not watch the 2020 season ? Cam couldn't complete 3 yard swing passes smh
@@DeeKay617 I'm talking about the fact Cam could scramble. He was a threat with his legs. That would make a world of difference with this current situation.
@jonmichael3280 ok no doubt he was a far better runner than Jacoby , but bro we have the same problem who is gonna block ????
@DeeKay617 I agree we suck no matter what, but it would help nonetheless. Still not going anywhere!
@jonmichael3280 Doesn't look good man , ii feel like even if we get the players we need idk about these coaches at all .... feels like the 90s again for us Pat's fans
Dude it’s been a month. Jacoby sucks, let Drake start to learn
Is it a panic move? Yes. Should they do it? Yes. There's nothing for him to learn watching Brissett throw for 100 yards a game.
How is it a panic move dummy?
This is absurd! You ruin a QB by putting him behind this offensive offensive line, especially a rookie.
@@Chadking-fc4vyNot panic move but a stupid one.
@@Maltese280zx I agree it's a dumb move but panic move is crazy I think the page just wants us 2 accept tanking. Don't understand why u would start maye soon
@@Maltese280zx 100s of QBs overcame a bad line lol rather him get starts this year then next year he gets first start you basically just a loser who's already accepted defeat. Caleb Williams got a bad line wonda why they playing him?
What happened to the defence? For the past 3 weeks they have done nothing
Injuries/time they are out there 20 minutes more every game than the offense fatigue sets in along with discouragement this happened last year with mac now it’s happening with brissett tell me if you played defense on this team if you’d be giving it your all when you know brissett is going out there to go 3 an out 9/10 times
@@Phinjarvus I totally agree. Defense is out there way too long. Balance of time is totally gone. Defense has got to be exhausted, a long with injuries. Terrible situation.
The O- line is a mess. Jacoby does miss open receivers. The offensive scheme should be designed better, more play action, more screen passes maybe? But, I think Drake Maye should be installed in small doses, for experience. I have a lot of respect for Jacoby. A true Warrior. O- line is as bad as it could get. Ay yi yi!
Hello all👍
I think Peppers is so underrated.
Also I think Boutte can be great.🤷
Boutte needs drake....
then fire AVP, he isnt here long term anyways
bring in McDaniels
Tom is a legend…… in his own mind. Loves to hear himself talk
The offensive line is a fireable offense. REMEMBER they CHOSE this, they chose not to sign anyone other than Okorafor (unproven RT to play LT). This isn’t a Jacoby conversation, this needs to be a ‘should Eliot wolf be fired’ conversation.
This is an offensive roster that lacks NFL-caliber players, especially on the line. These bums wouldn't make a lot of NFL rosters, and yet, they're starting for us.
Patriots 2024: 1-16
Haha,, oh man I would lose $500. Over/under. 🤣
I would lose $500
@@sbond7442 if u thought the pats were going to be good this year u deserve to lose all ur money
@@JJ-ud9ld thanks for the uplifting comment
You’re a swell guy JJ
Ticket sales will start dropping soon. Not only bc of this season, but 5 years of bad team building. They'll throw the kid in most likely because of this. Cancelling my Paramount +. Not worth my time & $.
I actually don't mind going 4 or 5 more weeks with Brissett. I never had expectations for this season and after the Judon trade, I knew this would be a throw away season.
The only thing that bothers me is that the OL is so bad that I don't think one off-season can turn it around.
Nah I still ain't starting Drake Maye and ruining him behind this OLine...they should have given Maye the final quarter once the game was effectively over to get some live reps and that's how they should play it for the rest of the year...get a high draft pick and take a franchise tackle and sign the best available tackle in FA...hopefully a decent WR comes available that they can pay in FA without giving up a draft pick...
Doesnt mean shyt excuses all i hear next year oline could be same then what ? Weapons could be same or the rookies what then stop yall BS play Maye see what he is cuz honestly he might make these better we dont know that an wont till he plays
If he is prime Ben Roethslisberger or Aaron Rodgers of 10 years ago... maybe the offense is just terrible instead of apacolyptically bad.
I’m loving this!- aBills fan
This is so dumb y’all, the dude obviously has to play at some point this year but there’s so
much risk in putting him behind what could be a historically bad offensive line as currently constructed. There is almost no risk in waiting longer (until the last quarter of the year). Get a couple starters back, figure out some semblance of a workable offensive scheme, and then throw him in. Say what you want about who overcame adversity who didn’t and all that, there are little to no examples of anyone getting worse or becoming a bust just because they had to wait to play. We’re literally talking about a matter of weeks here, the team may suck right now but jesus we can wait like regular fans if that’s what gives him the best chance to succeed.
@@lookbehindwalls2647 I didn’t think there was anyone with a brain in this comment section and yet here you are 😂
I don’t know why anyone surprised we said from the beginning the Patriots have the hardest schedule in the first month in the NFL. We did not expect them to even win one game.
Very true, but my hope was that we would see improvement as the season goes on. Injuries and poor play have shown us regression week after week. That’s what worries me .
Brisset was 95% of the problem today on offense
Like always...
Thats actually a good thing. Since it was just him tbh we can improve off that. Idk why we didn't just get Russ
Thank you. He held the ball like a rookie today.
funny how brisset played so much better for the pats back when belichick was coaching. if brisset is 95% of the problem, then alex van pelt is 500% the problem, mayo is 1000% the problem, kraft is 1000000% the problem, and get ready for drake maye because he's about to be 10000000000% the problem
@@JJ-ud9ldbrissett was never that great with the pats. He played with a Super Bowl caliber roster and the offense was significantly hamstrung when he was the starter.
they're going to panic and start maye, and the media will spend all week saying its because he's so incredible, then he's going to throw nonstop ints
Tom Everything Curran,
Start Drake Maye Sunday against the Dolphins, he will give this team a jolt that they desperately need.
This season is not lost! Stop with that stupid narrative. Love you, brother.
How about a second tight end? I remember thinking that about the Strange draft and as far back as Tom Brady. Please.
we told bill we cant have him and we have "isnt a head coach" Mayo and fisher price elliot. I hope you're all happy.
I am. I'm happier watching them lose than watching that gross fraud who spitefully lost a super bowl and ruined this team standing on the sidelines getting his ass kissed by the media as if he'd ever done anything without Brady. Good riddance.
What did people expect when the Pats have no o-line, little to no talent at the skill positions and a very mediocre QB? You get this. This is what you get, the worst offense in football.
Good QB make team better.. wasn’t nobody thinking commanders was gonna do anything but the QB changed everything
At this juncture, so many of the problems with the current team are either due to a lack of experience (youth) or a large talent gap. Or both. This is a rebuilding process and it obviously wont happen quickly. Another good score of draft picks next year and then hopefully we can make it to a 500 club status. Time will tell.
You ask the wrong question. You ask if Maye started all games would the pats be 1-3 and you say they might be 0-4. The question to ask s not that. It is who gives the Pats the best chance to win moving forward and next week vs Miami and I think Maye does. He has sat for 4 games and there is value to that but now is time to take the bubble wrap off.
It feels like Mayo has a little trauma from calling the defense the past few years and watching an offense that couldn’t stay on the field and had a solid defense gassed every week because they were constantly on the field. I feel like he’s partially to blame probably telling Jacoby to not turn it over which impacts the QBs decisions. Qb is meant to play free, make the plays that are there and don’t be afraid to push the ball. Playing safe. I also believe you need to learn from making mistakes and playing.
I don't think if it's a panic move. Ive seen Brisset over the years since he was drafted. He's a decent QB if he has a clean pocket. He never had a quick release.
If Drake has a quicker release, he can alleviate alot of the offensive line problems.
When TB12 was in his early yrs, that's what Belichek did. Dink & dunk 5-10 yds, mixed with a decent running game. They didn't have any talented receivers but they got the ball out in 2.5 seconds! Paired with a good D.
The 2001 champions was regarded by then "experts" as the least talented contender.
I definitely missed them competing 😂
If you want to play Maye, do it. You might get 2 or 3 good to great out of the pocket plays, but he will get injure and will lose him for the rest of the season. Do media guys want to give uo what they want the most for what they want now?
Don’t start him yet. Wait till Chicago or something. We need that next draft to get the best tackle. Don’t take any chances on not getting a top pic. If you put Drake out there, you might win some games.
People forget when Andrew Luck retired. The Colts had a great offense but they could barely score 20 points with Brissett at QB.
Yes it's time for the rookie to have his baptism by fire.
By “great offense” you mean a 34 year old Frank Gore and TY Hilton?
Luck is underrated for how much he had to carry that offense
This team might not be “ready” for Drake for a decade. I had a lot of faith in Wolf and Mayo coming into the season, almost all of it is gone. The personnel and coaching get worse on a weekly basis. You CANNOT sit Maye the entire season, one more offseason is not gonna wave a magic wand over this roster. The more the team embarrasses itself on a weekly basis the more long term damage they’re doing to their brand, as well as the internal belief of the players currently rostered.
Can we stop with the 168 yards? They got close to fifty on a dump off and a great run by Gibson.
We can talk about the line which is terrible but Jacoby game has always been read 1 check down so it doesnt matter either way
People said we got a bad oline. Didn’t Washington n Chicago had the worst lineman last year?? Look at Jayden Daniel’s and Caleb Williams now. Idk if Jacoby is that bad but give drake maye or Joe Milton n let’s see the difference please.
So, can we talk about the idea that winning games is probably not the mission this year?
We cannot start Maye. Until we improve our coaching staff. Period. I feel bad for the kid. Kraft allowed him to be drafted to an ailing organization.
Well if taking a beating will keep you as a starter, we could all do that for 8 mil a year
Look on the bright side a Top 5 pick and we have the Celtics 👍
Yup. Pats will be in a 2-4 year rebuild. They need to build a line around Maye, pick up one very solid receiver and another good receiver. We also need a secondary running back who is a short pass threat.
Unless the coaches can get Jacoby to let it fly more quickly they will have no choice to play Maye sooner than they would like. He is consistently holding the ball too long. AVP seems like a great guy but his play calling leaves a lot to be desired.
Should’ve started Maye and paid Flacco to back him up. Like every other team does, start the stud draft pick and put a bet behind him just Incase
I said the same thing bro Flacco would've made more sense
Flaako is gone folks!!hees lighting it up in Indy!!!!😂...leave Maye alone for now..put Milton out there for now....⏳️
I was of this camp as well. 😐
Start Joe Milton at least and let him take some pressure off the O line. Allows Drake more time to develop and maybe gets teams to stop blitzing all the time.
No time for panic. We suck, and everyone knows it. It may take 10 years to be competitive again. Just brace yourself. Stick it out, if you really like them, and care.
I am ready to have Drake out there as soon as they can make the O-line at least serviceable. But i don’t think they should put him out there as long as the o-line is a complete disaster
Couldn’t find the Maryland game where Drake gets hit bad and then throws a nice ball
I’m SURE Tom wasn’t making that up to prove a point. He NEVER does that, 😂😂
@@michaelprenoveau5335 ah smh
I have to wonder, with so many early season injuries on this team, what's going on with Jerod Mayos brother, you know, the "sTReNgth AnD COndItiOniNg cOAch"?
No! The OL will look better with him. Jacoby with all pros across the OL still wouldn’t be effective. He has to wait for players to come open, holds the ball too long, no anticipation, can’t throw past his 1st read. Maye is a big, smart tough young man. He can handle it. Jacoby is not a starting NFL QB, no amount of protection and all pros is going to change that.
He does know that Aiyuk only had 2 catches for 48 yards, right? That kind of player, 🤣. He's been terrible all year.
yeah but, he didn’t participate all off-season, so he’s not in shape-yet
@@dannymizz dude, come on. Jared Goff literally has more receiving TDs this year than he does.
The team is so lost and confused that they’re confusing toughness and talent
Bro don’t tell me he’s going to learn sitting on a frigen bench, I would rather watch Maye fail and learn playing than watch Brisset waste the few opportunities we have to move the ball
Dont put Maye!
the coaching in the first half was wretched..
Are we not concerned about the development of Pop Douglas, Polk, and Baker?? The offense can’t function with Brissett unless we’re just running the ball and dumping it off. It’s counterproductive and ruining the franchise’s progress. PLAY MAYE!!
Elliot Wolf needs to draft THE guy on the O-line, not 2 or 3 MAYBE’s and try to piece things together. As of now they should go for a top 3 pic and get a starting left tackle or a true #1 receiver. It feels like a continuation of Bill’s drafting too cute thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room.
Jerod wants to be their friend instead of their coach its okay to be their friend, but be their coach first
Mayo's work simply stinks. With Old-Offensive-Blind-Outdated Bill we always had great defense, at least.
play Milton and Maye , let them get some experience, move the pocket and let them run and gun
Let’s go Celtics
What is maye learning from brissett at this point the guy despite being a veteran can’t read defenses even which is supposed to be his only strong suit
Along with the fact brissett gets upset whenever they ask about maye he seems almost resentful watch his interviews an tell me this guy is doing his best to help maye learn
No Drake Maye until that O-Line gets cleaned up.
We look worse than last year 😮😢
Brady would have a difficult time with this offense line , A rookie Drake maye is not the answer and I believe it would be suicidal for the poor kid
“26.5 players are hurt-but still…” 😅
Too early in the season to give up, wait till you are mathematically eliminated then put in Jocoby Bressett.
Tom, love you mean it! But you’re making wayyyy too many excuses for Mayo and this coaching staff. I understand it’s a long rebuild but the way you’re making excuses for everyone on mayos staff to injuries and o line is a bit ridiculous. These guys do not look prepared for the little things and don’t look like a well coached team.
Meanwhile Russell wilson collecting dust on a bench somewhere smh
Put Maye in
They should start maye he is the only way for them to win games
That boys gonna get hurt leave him on the sidelines..
Top 5 pick is what we need to think about now
Not right now, he isn't.
The more games they win, the lower the pick will be. We're in the rebuild years and it's gonna look rough for a while. Maye isn't good enough to carry a game
With 2 seconds to get a throw off? I would not allow Maye to start behind this line, no way. Want to ruin a potential franchise QB, then go on and start him.
@@36ELGALANFinally, somebody with some sense!
Keep starting Jacoby. This is awesome. 🎉 The team loves it and supports it and if things go right maybe we can get the biggest phoney ever dion sellout sanders golden egg kid. That'll work out well
They should put Maye in a blowout games more. He should have gotten longer in the Jets game.
There is a reason Jacoby is a career backup!
Maybe they should bench Brissett along with Van Pelt as they are both loyal to one another. Pats are just boring they need to get creative that's is where Drake Maye comes in into play.
Doesn't matter. Drake is not going to save this rendition of patriots
idk, i think people need to stop acting like being able to take hits is anyhting special. thats why we have pads on
Cam Newton ❤
Git his but out there, y'all can't stink up the field anymore than you have throw us a bone 😡
i think with maye, it's an organization failure on the pats part if he's not ready to play in the very immediate future. daniels is playing, and obviously is in a good situation with a coordinator who knows how to use him well. williams is doing well enough and is at least out there.
at some point, no more bs, which is what is is, about maye is "doing well in practice" and if he's the real deal. if he's competent, he needs to play. simple. if he isn't playing, then he must be playing well enough to earn that. that's all there is to it. everything relative to your peers. daniels is playing; williams is playing.
when pats lost to dallas and saints last yr, the calls were to remove mac from quarterback position. the exact same thing has now repated with brissett, with jets loss and now niners loss. yet brissett has the swagger of someone who knows he's not going to lose his job. forget about the play maye issue.the issue is also that brissett is playing bad. simple. mac was held accountable for that every day of every week. brissett makes 6 million more than mac (about), is yrs older, has more experience, and is not facing nearly the same scrutiny.
curran has said often that mac was a "mental puddle" at the end. hey, if you media apply even 50% of the pressure you applied to mac for every single mistake last yr, brissett will be too. and at least mac wanted to win and gave everything to try to win. is brissett a tough guy who gets up? okay. but he's not nearly as competitive a nature as mac.
it comes down to the organization got ticked off with mac because he called out things that weren't working. brissett doesn't, so they don't care. kraft, the pats in general look really bad right now. and it's not even worth criticizing them because that's how they are: trash talkers and making both mac and belichick beg to try to stay, and then silent and protected when it's been proven that neither mac or belichick (or o'brien) were the problem.
They aren’t trying to risk major injury on their first round pick
@@Celtics2025 It’s football….there’s always going to be risk for injury. It’s time to play the kid and see what they have.
@@polandfresh101 rookies especially at the QB position rarely start their first season. The FO knows their O line is trash. They aren’t willing to risk their potential future franchise player to go get snapped up and be useless. Truth be told patriots just weren’t ready to draft a qb as they have no offensive line. It is actually disgraceful that bellichick left this roster in such terrible shape. A majority of Brady’s success was predicted upon the o line that was built before he even stepped on the field when drew Bledsoe got hurt.
@@Celtics2025 That’s actually a good example of why having a good offensive line doesn’t guarantee ANYTHING. Bledsoe got injured behind a good o-line and so did Brady in 2008. It’s very unlikely that the pats o-line is significantly better to start the year next year anyways. The kid needs to play.
Also, many rookies do start. Williams, Daniels, and Nix are all starting and Penix probably would be if he wasn’t drafted by Atlanta.
2021 "Buy anything!"
Also these guys Kraft is cheap. The more they talk the more hypocrisy you catch them in
So the #3 pick sites on the sidelines while the team goes 3-14 then next year, of the O-line gets better, you'll play him with a year gone and still no experience
I'm tired of these whiners.
THE PATRIOTS ARE HARD TO WATCH
Get a few more O line players back and then start Maye! Billionaire Robert Kraft needs to provide a better product for the. Fans! Pats are one of the most expensive ticket in sports!
The Krafts should sell the team as long as they are in charge nothings gonna change if they just rely on the draft gotta open up the checkbook sometimes too
It’s not always the Krafts no decent player in free agency wants to come to NE anymore that’s the bare facts atm
They don't care...saving money💰outweighs winning!wake up!🙈
Never forget Tommy boy here said all last year Mac was the guy. I promise u nobody knows less about football than this man speaking I dare u too even try . I have his quotes I'll eviscerate u . You know 10x more than this guy
Should they go to Drake No! If Jacoby is hurt Yes. It would be a panic move and we don't want to get the kid killed! With no offensive line.
I agree. Don't ruin him like Mac.
@@scottsuvoski9574an u mac jones really stop yuh BS maye aint in no shape form or mindset like him stop comparing the situations
Tom stop the nonsense. If they put a stout line in front of Jacoby it’d be the same outcome because he’s a backup. That’s all he’ll ever be pal.
What is Maye exactly learning by watching this dumpster fire Curran?
What nobody saw this comin?. Stick wit dah plan.
What’s the plan to tank?
AVP is a disaster. So predictable. No sense of urgency. No mixing it up. Total suck.
he wasn’t their first choice
Pats are not entertaining. A rookie QB will not fix that given his overall football experience. Let’’s do what bad teams do and put in Maye so we can talk crap about him after we watch him flail around behind this line.
Bad teams? Every team starting a rookie qb is doing better than the Patriots right now.
@@polandfresh101 Meant more over past seasons, as in Jets, Bears, Texans who had years of bad QB play with top draft choices. THis year’s Chicago and Washington have real NFL WRs and much better line play, so not a valid comparison to the Pats, who have neither.
Oline wasn’t that bad against San fran owenu shut done bosa at first so bosa switched sides
That´s 1 player...what bout the rest?i think there are more problems than that oline ...mayo,kraft are clueless!are these the patriots they wanna see after 2 decades winning?drake needs 2 worldclass receivers or it´s not gonna work with polk alone.
Where's mo lewis when u need him...obviuosly mayo won't change anything on his own...
I really think that's what Mayo is hoping for. If JB gets hurt then Mayo doesn't have to bench him and get Van Pelt butthurt
@theblackflame4002 if van pelt is controlling who the starting qb is then hes an even worse problem for us then I imagjned
Thry arent winning games with that O line. May aa well give Maye reps.
How to ruin a rookie QB.
What is this millennial BS???
You don’t get any extra points for being “cautious, in the NFL!!!! How is Maye supposed to learn, behind a QB that can’t throw, makes poor decisions, and can’t even run?!?!?
At least Maye can extend plays, instead of holding the ball like a statue.
Football players PLAY football!!! 🤯🤯
They don’t just sit on the bench in order to protect their confidence!