This is my favorite game of all time, well Y&Y was, now Huang. Thank you so much for teaching and playing with all the correct rules and scoring. It’s tricky at first but now that you’ve shown the proper way more people will understand this great game. Usually 3p is the best player count for a good amount of wars/riots/revolts but you two managed to have plenty in a 2p game. Great job! I’ve seen a game won with a final score of 4 because there was so much conflict. Amazing!
I believe there was a mistake made at 19:19, when placing multiple blue tiles as part of one single action. After placing the first blue tile, for any subsequent blue tiles (as part of the same action), they MUST be placed adjacent to the previous tile.
I feel like this is one of the more difficult Knizia games to breakdown for teaching. I always struggle with it. It’s so abstract and there’s no satisfying way to structure it, you kinda just have to explain each rule like a bullet point.
This video should be retitled to "Huang: The Battle for the White Pagoda." 😆 Really fun playthrough! I wonder how chaotic this would be at three or four players...
A few weeks ago, Hubby and I visited a game store and decided to take a chance on one of their $50 mystery bags as a special treat. There were 4 or 5 games, including an Unlock 3-pack we hadn't tried yet, other games we're not interested in based on reviews, and a frankly boring-looking big square box with a little red stamp and the word "Huang" underneath. I'd heard of T&E and Y&Y, but I had no idea there was a follow-up. I'd even been telling Hubby that I wish more games had interesting scoring conditions like Beer and Bread, which is also based off the lowest scoring category! We haven't had a good chance to sit down to learn and play, but we're both really excited after learning more about it, and definitely looking forward to another mystery bag next time we hit up that game store! Thanks for the video!
Love your playthroughs! Noticed that you recently have not being doing as many reviews - is that going away? I really enjoy hearing your personal perspectives on the games. Your Uwe series is my fav and I’ve referenced all your playthrough and reviews of them multiple times.
Oh good grief, another RK. You guys are dangerous to my boardgame budget. I already own both Tigris & Euphrates and Yellow & Yangtze. Thanks for highlighting what looks like another great game.
What a brutal game. I played enough Tigris and Euphrates "back in the day" that I dont see the need or have the desire to play this...well not much anyway. What a great play through. In the first 20 minutes or so it looked like Monique was going to run away with it...but Naveen wrestled control back of control of the big region and held most of while the white pagoda held the focus for much of the rest of the game. In the end, I was surprised how little of the board was utilized.
I have Yellow and Yangtze and it's a top game of mine. Kinda surprised to see this game on your channel, just because it's more of an OG style game that modern board gamers don't typically like much. I do wish these games wouldn't change names though. What if someone said, "Sorry, it's not called chess anymore." Anyway, great video.
Sorry Naveen, I don't think 19:18 is a legal move. The rules state that any subsequent blue tiles need to be adjacent to the previously played blue tile. My correction aside, this is a great video! One of the most elegant rules teaches I've seen from this game series. You made it look easy! Excited to get my hands on a copy.
sorry not played this before but at 23:30 after the first war are you supposed to remove 2 tiles from winning city - would you still be attached to blue pagoda?
This game is tricky for me. "Tigris and Euphrates" is one of my favorite games of all time... in T&E and Y&Y black works as yellow and yellow is wild, so it works like white here... so this one feels so unintuitive for me (I have to actually remember that there is no black but yellow is black and white is wild instead of yellow 🤣). That said, it's a great game, but I will stick to T&E 😅 What I love the most about these games is that by scoring your lowest score it naturally pushed players into confict, which I think is brilliant
This is my favorite game of all time, well Y&Y was, now Huang. Thank you so much for teaching and playing with all the correct rules and scoring. It’s tricky at first but now that you’ve shown the proper way more people will understand this great game. Usually 3p is the best player count for a good amount of wars/riots/revolts but you two managed to have plenty in a 2p game. Great job! I’ve seen a game won with a final score of 4 because there was so much conflict. Amazing!
We were not expecting for this one to be so confrontational so early. The dynamic at 3 definitely keeps you on your toes.
Excellent teach of this game!
Thanks so much!
Surprisingly strong narrative for such an abstract game.
Perfect timing as I just acquired this game and I cant wait to play it...and now I know how...thanks to you!
Glad to hear it! Hope you have a blast playing!
I believe there was a mistake made at 19:19, when placing multiple blue tiles as part of one single action. After placing the first blue tile, for any subsequent blue tiles (as part of the same action), they MUST be placed adjacent to the previous tile.
Yay! What a pleasant surprise. Such a fabulous game.
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Looks fun and what gorgeous art!
Thanks for checking out the video!
I feel like this is one of the more difficult Knizia games to breakdown for teaching. I always struggle with it. It’s so abstract and there’s no satisfying way to structure it, you kinda just have to explain each rule like a bullet point.
Definitely needs a D.E.N.N.I.S like system 🤣
@@BeforeYouPlay my friends and I say we use the DENNIS system on each other whenever we’re playing Twilight Imperium 😂
lol!
what is the dennis system?
This video should be retitled to "Huang: The Battle for the White Pagoda." 😆 Really fun playthrough! I wonder how chaotic this would be at three or four players...
A few weeks ago, Hubby and I visited a game store and decided to take a chance on one of their $50 mystery bags as a special treat. There were 4 or 5 games, including an Unlock 3-pack we hadn't tried yet, other games we're not interested in based on reviews, and a frankly boring-looking big square box with a little red stamp and the word "Huang" underneath. I'd heard of T&E and Y&Y, but I had no idea there was a follow-up. I'd even been telling Hubby that I wish more games had interesting scoring conditions like Beer and Bread, which is also based off the lowest scoring category! We haven't had a good chance to sit down to learn and play, but we're both really excited after learning more about it, and definitely looking forward to another mystery bag next time we hit up that game store! Thanks for the video!
Love your playthroughs! Noticed that you recently have not being doing as many reviews - is that going away? I really enjoy hearing your personal perspectives on the games. Your Uwe series is my fav and I’ve referenced all your playthrough and reviews of them multiple times.
Wow Monique was on a mean streak this game. Good playthrough
Probably the most hostile I've seen you two. Fun video! xD
Oh good grief, another RK. You guys are dangerous to my boardgame budget. I already own both Tigris & Euphrates and Yellow & Yangtze. Thanks for highlighting what looks like another great game.
Thank you for this playthrough. I would love to hear your thoughts (and see a playthrough) of Kinzias Samurai. Especially in comparison to this game.
What a brutal game. I played enough Tigris and Euphrates "back in the day" that I dont see the need or have the desire to play this...well not much anyway. What a great play through. In the first 20 minutes or so it looked like Monique was going to run away with it...but Naveen wrestled control back of control of the big region and held most of while the white pagoda held the focus for much of the rest of the game. In the end, I was surprised how little of the board was utilized.
I have Yellow and Yangtze and it's a top game of mine. Kinda surprised to see this game on your channel, just because it's more of an OG style game that modern board gamers don't typically like much. I do wish these games wouldn't change names though. What if someone said, "Sorry, it's not called chess anymore." Anyway, great video.
Sorry Naveen, I don't think 19:18 is a legal move. The rules state that any subsequent blue tiles need to be adjacent to the previously played blue tile. My correction aside, this is a great video! One of the most elegant rules teaches I've seen from this game series. You made it look easy! Excited to get my hands on a copy.
Great game. Some people say it extremely abstract. Others say it’s dripping with the theme and feeling of shifting states. And both groups are right
sorry not played this before but at 23:30 after the first war are you supposed to remove 2 tiles from winning city - would you still be attached to blue pagoda?
i think i see now only red tiles are removed
T&E is a 10/10 for me, this might be a fantastic alternative. And I think Huang MIGHT be better with 2.
AmaIng teach ty
You’re welcome!
"Similar style of game" - isn't this Y&Y 1:1? Has anything changed in the base rules?
New modules: Bandits and Eighteen Kingdoms (other side of the board, new way of scoring blue points)
This game is tricky for me. "Tigris and Euphrates" is one of my favorite games of all time... in T&E and Y&Y black works as yellow and yellow is wild, so it works like white here... so this one feels so unintuitive for me (I have to actually remember that there is no black but yellow is black and white is wild instead of yellow 🤣). That said, it's a great game, but I will stick to T&E 😅 What I love the most about these games is that by scoring your lowest score it naturally pushed players into confict, which I think is brilliant
Are there any rules differences between this and Yellow & Yangtze?
Core is the same. But the box also includes new modules: Bandits and Eighteen Kingdoms (other side of the board, new way of scoring blue points)
Knizia must have some tax bills owing. The amount of games he’s releasing atm is insane
This is such a cutthroat game. Sheesh
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