How to Build a Rain Barrel for $40 | Ask This Old House
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Ask This Old House general contractor Tom Silva shows a homeowner how to make her own rain barrel on a budget. (See below for a shopping list, tools, and steps.)
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Shopping List for How to Build a Rain Barrel for $40:
- Reclaimed food-rated barrel
- Boiler shutoff valve
- Thread-sealing tape
- Rain diverter, hose, and tap
Tools for How to Build a Rain Barrel for $40:
- Power drill
- 1-inch hole-saw bit
- Hacksaw
Steps for How to Build a Rain Barrel for $40:
1. Drill a 1-inch hole at the bottom of the barrel using a power drill and a 1-inch hole-saw bit.
2. Wrap thread-sealing tape several times around the boiler shut-off valve threads and screw it into the hole.
3. Drill a 1-inch hole into the cap of the barrel using a power drill and a 1-inch hole-saw bit.
4. Attach tap to hole in the cap of the barrel.
5. Cut downspout using a hack saw into two pieces.
6. Attach diverter to downspout using a power drill and screws.
7. Connect hose to diverter and tap in cap of barrel.
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Our county has a program that costs $20 and you go to an hour long class on rain barrels, then the hands-on portion is where you put most of the setup together. Then you get to take the entire barrel project home!
How cool! Must be a very community-oriented county!
What did they teach you? Or was it just building it?
@@ibeattheleaves5005 they taught the legality of rain capture, and how to utilize captured rain on your property. Then, just putting the barrel together and tips for winter storage
@@intolerant_left was it pretty much like it was shown here?
OUR COUNTY!!!! WOO HOO!!!!
What about overflow when the barrel fills up?
It pours on the ground. Much like it would do if there was no barrel.
All these vids have beautiful housewife’s.
How do you clean the inside of the barrel? Even with the diverter and a filter, the barrel will bound to get dirty over time
I put some water and bleach inside, put the barrel on the side and push it around my yard. You clean it and exercise at the same time.😊
Nice info!
Gonna need a vent...
Two tips. If you have a barrel of this size you’ll perhaps want a larger diameter out flow…. And two, you may want to consider painting it black to help block out the sunlight to reduced the growth rate of algae.
paint inside or outside?
@@ranjit3ooutside, it’s just to block the sunlight so algae won’t grow in the water inside the barrel.
Won’t black encourage heat?
@@comewheelinwithjohnandchristie algae needs sunlight to grow, it has nothing to do with heat
When Tommy shows up to fix your problem in his street clothes and without his tool belt, you'll know you probably could have done it yourself.
That's what the basis of this show is about though I think.
He makes everything look far easier than it would be any first-time maker of a one-time thing.
They should preface: “we got a smoking deal on an old soda factory barrel that you probably won’t get”
😂 right?!
I've seen used food grade drums on craigslist before, they usually go for around $50.
Not $5, but I just got 2 for $15 each.
I just paid $25 for a 65 gallon one and considered myself lucky
@@JLJohnson Nice find man! Congrats!!
Tom: What do you think it was used for? Take a whiff of that...
Elise: *takes a whiff* uh..chloroform?
Tom: Yup! Pretty good!
hilarious
Oh man you had me laughing!
That cracked me up.
lol
Let's take those clothes off and call Bill Cosby
I do believe that a "how to" video should give all the details. I called my local recycling center for a barrel, they said they do get them in but they don't give them out but they would sell me an already assembled rain barrel for 40 bucks. So save yourself the time drilling, buying looking for a hole saw and call the recycling center! Also: so many comments about horrible "toxic roof water " all the plants are getting run off from the streets, decks all the rooftops in the neighborhood as well as the pesticides you neighbor sprays. Just one roof sounds pretty good!
When he attached the bottom of the diverter to the downspout below he placed it OVER the downspout. This will cause leaking. Having installed miles of spouting in my life, you ALWAY place a piece of downspout inside a lower piece so water can't hit the joint and leak out. The way this was done is incorrect. I know I'll hear it could be sealed with gutter seal etc. These sealants all expand and contract with temperature variation and will eventually fail. Bottom line, this installation is incorrect.
A white diverter would be better also.
wanna hold my belt...He just couldn't resist...:-)
Hi we like u
Who hasn't done that before in an iffy spot. Always wear a sturdy belt. :)
A throwaway line like that would never make it onto TV these days.
She said yes !
I don’t get it ? Cause he might fall leaning over?
Ah, all I need to do is to go to my local soda factory outlet store.
Mine were used for soy sauce.
@@robertcraft1030 where’d you get it?
@@heyb6268 From a contracting business that had them left over. I get free pallets that way, as well.
@@robertcraft1030 do you remember the name of the company?
For anyone that doesn't know place the water outlet at-least 2 inches above the bottom or on the bottom because of sludge buildup ;-)
You're supposed to clean your barrels out so sludge doesn't build up. Rain barrels are not Maintenance Free, unfortunately.
I wanted one of these. My mom and I got a 45 gallon trashcan. Today we got one of those bendable hoses to put at the end of the gutter and then we put it right over the hole I cut out of the lid. I also had a mesh screen I got from Amazon. It started storming. I mean crazy rain. It did so for less than an hour. We went out and water was over flowing from the can. Never in a million years would I have thought it could create that much water.
You can also add a water filtration system. Just find a filter you like and add it on
It is worth pointing out that a light-colored or translucent barrel will grow algae in most cases. This will be aggravated when fed directly from a roof/gutter.
+LifeInOregon Could always paint the outside of the barrel or wrap it up.
even if it's used for drinking, algae is good for you.
Round why only for him
Guess you weren’t listening. It’s got a filter
Algae will still grow even with the filter. It's a microbe that grows. Also, white or natural plastics will also degrade and get brittle over time. It's best to put some gardening cloth around it to shade it from the sun rather than paint it. It should keep it cooler than painting it.
Ok Elise, you just stand there and look pretty.
She’s beautiful
@@hezekiyahisrael5804 Ya know Tom got some wood standing next to her, but trying to be the gentleman he is LOL
Make sure the tape goes on the same way the threads run on the boiler fitting, so when you screw the 1” threads in, the tape stays on:-) Also, a one inch fitting with a washer screwed tight on to the inside will help the boiler fitting not leak :-)
The problem is if I’m not mistaken the top does not come off of this type of barrel- it only has the two holes
@@angelastanislowski8862 Most are like that. On PVC type barrels you have to cut the entire top off (level) then screen it, or what I’ve done is turn the top you’ve cut off upside down and set it back on the barrel for a bird-critter watering spot..Then you have the run-off from the gutter go into either the bird bath on top, or you’ll have to cut another hole into the edge of the top that drains the downspout to on top of the screen..Then drill a hole on the side that accepts your hose Bibb for watering..I always put a quick release-connector for the Bibb and hose in case I need to take it loose to go elsewhere :-)
"You wanna hold my belt?"
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He gave it a shot.
Where can anyone else find a 50 gallon food grade barrel for $5? Prices I see would double the cost of this project.
I found one locally for $15
I bought one for $10 from a car wash. They get older soap in on giant barrels.
@@manichispanic5234 good idea, thanks. I ended up going with 275gall IBC totes.
I like using 275 gallon Intermediate Bulk Container or IBC. Sometimes these are also called Totes or a bottle in a cage. The beauty of the IBC is that there is a butterfly valve in the bottom and you can get an adaptor to connect a garden hose. The other benefit of an IBC is that it will hold 275 gallons in the space of 4 barrels. They typically sell for about $50-75 on craigslist.
Find a place where they get ingredients in plastic barrels and go dumpster diving after hours, typically they just throw these away. Or leave them out for whatever person to snatch them up and resell them on Craigslist
no way that brass fitting screwed into plastic didnt leak
Canadian Tire that's what I'm saying, there's nothing to screw it too. It just goes into the hole and sits there.
It will move around as she uses it and it will brake
@James Wolowiec thoose always get smashed it is very easy
Exactly. It needs a 1" rubber washer on each side and ring nut tightened on the inside. I've made one of these before and it worked. Also, it needs and overflow and a vent on top for air intake too.
The proper fitting to use is a bulkhead fitting, when that barrel is full of water the pressure around the treading may leak over time, with the bulkhead fitting its backed with a rubber seal from inside the barrel as well
Don't forget to support the deck ,that barrel is heavy when full!
"You wanna hold my valve."... Tommy smooth as butter
He said belt because the downspout was on the outside of the rail and he would have to lean out over the rail to cut it to install the diverter.
@@bulistik5039 This
She was very optimistic though gotta admit
So this is a video about how to drill a hole into the rail of your deck and cut the siding of your house with a hack saw?
I don't know who the producers are who choose which homeowners get on the show, but time and time again, they have proven that they are excellent at their jobs.
Man it was like magic when she turned the valve, I can't believe water came out.
Barrel will overflow. The inlet pipe should come in from the side about 2 inches down from the top. The diverter outlet elevation should be 1 inch higher than this so the water can flow to the barrel but when the barrel is full the excess water will backflow to the gutter.
Excellent advice. Thanks.
Never been an issue for me. Don't get enough rain to fill up 55gal
I don't recommend doing this if you have Asphalt shingles. Chemicals from the Tar in the shingles can mix in the water. Especially on hot days. I would not use this water for ANYTHING.
If you have a rain barrel with water from an asphalt shingled roof, Fill a White 5 gallon bucket at least half full and see if it has a light brown color to it. If so, most likely it's from the Tar.
If you have a metal roof no problem.
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It will need a pre bucket filled with floss and a screen/ possibly a carbon mat (like for a fish tank). Then for drinking it will need additional filtering as you drain water from it.
Am I the only one concerned about the weight of a full barrel of water on an upstairs deck?
One gallon of water weighs approximately 8lbs. So if that is a 50-gallon barrel, that's 400 lbs.
Tommy will return and have another video how to do deck repairs later.
the algae experts chime in....algae in the water will be beneficial for plants so it doesnt matter that algae grows in the water except for the looks.
Excellent video! Thanks for your help. With your advice and how you demonstrated your technique, I have also created my own rain harvesting here in upstate New York. I created a video that hopefully helps. Thanks again.
So where can we get a barrel like that for 5 bucks is the question?
Are you suppose to water vegtable gardens using roof run off water? I heard the roof tiles can leach chemicals into runoff?
Important to note that these bad boys weigh well over 600 lbs when full. So make sure if you're putting it on a deck like this that it can hold the weight!
You can see water seepage on the wood deck from the great installation of the lower valve, after he fills the barrel with water. She covers the leak with the watering can before the camera pans down. Needs a bulkhead for the bottom valve installation to prevent water from leaking around the imperfect cut, Teflon tape alone won't slove this problem.
You have no idea what caused the stain. They could have flushed the chips from the barrel, ever think of that ?
Or it could have been because he wrapped his Teflon tape on backwards.
could of been water from the sky
Maybe a cat peed there
@@Kiss4cooper could be
I made one in California and all I needed was a milk jug for the whole season
Careful, harvesting and storing rainwater is illegal in Cali.
Bucks N Trucks that is not true
It was illegal in ca until 2012, then the law was changed because of drought conditions.
Did you notice the proposition 65 label on the rain barrel? Do you know that rain barrels are known to cause cancer in the state of California? I'm so glad they are so educated that they can inform the whole country of the dangers of almost every material used in every day life. Way to go California.. idiots
@@condor5635 Did you notice a joke flew past your head? I’m so glad you’re educated on sarcasm and take every moment to vent out your opinions. Way to go...you know the rest....
Tommy's a brave man. If I laid my drill on the railing it would have fallen off.
I'm going to say wrong right off the bat. Unless you are screwing together a 2 piece bung or threaded union you are screwed if the hole to put the spigot in fails.
all this trouble was so Tom could say that he had a date with a hot woman...
Feeding troth from tractor supply. Lid is an old screen door. Tarp over top when it's not raining. Troth comes with a hose and drain valve built in. $50
She's gorgeous
And we are back with the hot wife segment of This Old House.
You’re so desperate
My rain water system cost me nothing, I took an old plastic trash can and placed it under the gutter, whenever I want water I dip a bucket in and the barrel and viola.
Thanks so much for this suggestion! Keep it simple!
No, these things should be covered and filtered for a reason. Open standing water is a good way to breed mosquitoes
Samthegreek Boy hillbilly
You are so smart
We have three water barrels connected to our roof. Here's the issue.....I recently watched a video that talked about the hazards of retrieving water from your roof as the materials they use are hazardous. Even if you use it to water your garden, you are putting toxic water on the food you and your family will be eating. I would like This Old House to respond to this as I can't find anything to the contrary and feel as if I have wasted time and money on these barrels. (I know it's been 6 years since this post, but I'm hoping someone sees it.) Thanks so much.
So, what if you are on a well? All that toxic water comes off the roof, onto the ground, and into your well.
@@AStanton1966 True, and we are on a well, but we have a filtration system that filters the water coming from the well into the house. I am truly confused what to do.
@@alicemaggio8854 Maybe, start by getting the rain water tested and see if it does contain any toxic substances. I use rain water for my garden and power-wash projects around my house. I have 3 Tractor Supply livestock containers for a total of about 375 gallons that get filled from a shed roof. Then I have a 1,100 gallon tank that gets filled by my house roof. Even though we had a pretty good drought here some years back, I've never run out of water. I harvest rain water cause I'm on a well also.
@@AStanton1966 Thank you so much for your reply. This is great advice that I will be following.
Great to see this install and saving rainwater! See comments below on putting the diverter just below the top of the barrel to automatically prevent overflow, see product instructions. We have installed a few of these and work great.
It's sealed why do you care about overflow? It'll just stop going down the tube and go down the downspout when full.
I think I would want my overflow to go in a secondary smaller portable container
Overflow into another barrel right next to it...or have the overflow attached to the 1st or 2nd barrel, connected to hose and ran out into the yard.
Where I live, Washington state, I started making something like this and was seen by my neighbor. They told the authorities and I was contacted by them. They told me I'd have to pay a 20% tax on the water I collected and forced me to put a meter on it. It upset me so much, I started using vodka to water my plants because it was cheaper.
So I had to ask, what is the 20% tax based upon, and they said it was based upon the amount of water I stole from them which would have otherwise fallen into the "system."
I'm much happier now that I better understand how our system works. I contribute more to the system by giving them my waste water which would have gone into the sewer then be transported to Indonesia for processing, thus reducing outsourcing. I think all Americans should have a government like ours, because they do so much for us!
😂👍
I would probably tell them I'd rather pay the 20% tax to GOD because after all, it's His rain 🌧️
Tom, you snuck in on Richards work. Perhaps because of the customer! Haha
69th Thumbs Up woot
Hi Tom, i am just curious why there is no overflow line or hole?
I think the diverter does that
Pretty sure Tom doesn't read the comments.
Isn't that gonna be a whole lot of weight in one spot on that deck when it's full?
500 pounds roughly.
people are made mostly of water, so id guess that barrel full of water should only weigh about as much as a couple of dudes his size
Yep water is about 8lbs per gallon...
I like how there's a woman there just to look hot and helpless smh
You should also either paint it or cover it to keep light from going in otherwise you will have a big problem with algae
Hi I like your post and I wanted to know if you're saying the Blue barrel and the top cover needs to be covered to prevent algae?
2:27 music to my ears
I noticed the bottom downspout was inserted into diverter instead of diverter flange being inserted inside bottom downspout. I’m thinking that will leak.
My system is much easier... a RAIN CHAIN replaces my down spout, and fills up a large sized garbage can. Then we use Homer buckets to move the water to the garden. This video reminded me to shot off this system in fall :-) Thanks for the ideas.
No overflow prevention
Exactly what I was thinking. He didn't mention the overflow issue, and she is on a second story with tenants below her no doubt.
It's all watertight. Once the hose fills up, it will all go down the downspout.
Hot house wife series... love it
Francois Michaud - Right! She is smokin.....
Rain diverter, hose, and tap is there a link where i can buy this product?
It would have been nice if you explained what you did to the top of the barrel. What did you drill into? Where did you get that piece that you screwed into the top of the barrel? Was it a complete kit with that diverter? Otherwise, nice video!😉
That piece usually comes with the barrel and I believe it's called a bung/filler hole and he hole sawed the 1'' hole for the hose from the gutter diverter.
Amazing collecting rainwater to water your flowers is illegal in many states. Thanks government.
I heard from someone that the roof material may affect the quality of the water collected. May be worth checking it out.
Everything u eat and drink from affects your health. Can’t win ‘em all.
I've done roofing and yeah I wouldn't drink that water if it touched shingles. They are made of tar fiberglass and other hazardous composites (literally says it on the packaging). If it was a metal roof or clay tiles I'd just filter out the dust/dirt, you'll be fine.
Where can we find this diverter? I like the flow-over style that filters out the large debris and diverts water, but don't seem to find this style online. Is it no longer available?
Ever get an answer on this? I’m looking to replace the semi-ghetto rig I’ve got now and I want to find the model of diverted he installed.
Where did you get the diverter and what is that part called?
It’s called Fiskars DiverterPro. Found here:
www.fiskars.com/en-us/gardening-and-yard-care/products/gardening-replacement-parts/diverterpro-rainwater-diverter-71000035
How do I pry off the lid of the barrel without cutting it. About 2 ins under the lid is a line and every 5-6 ins is a notch. How do I loosen the notches to take off the top?
That seems like it will be a lot of weight for the deck… figure could be 4-500 lbs full of water
will the diverter be able to handle the small pellets that drop from asphalt shingles?
How to Build a Rain Barrel for $40. Buy a rain barrel for $40.
Thank you old house for the video. I am finding it hard to find food grade barrel for $5. Could you leave us the link where you got it ?
try an abandoned toxic dump site, you can find one for free
Check with your local Pop bottler. Otherwise if you have large food plants. Snack foods, fish etc. Alot of times they get so many barrels they'll give them to you just to keep them from piling up.
If you want to go bigger, Intermediate Bulk Containers (IBCs) are pretty cheap too.
@James Wolowiec 😂😂
🌭 Link
How'd you go about getting the $5 barrel?
The $5 was for a new grinder blade to cut through the lock on the soda factory door. After that, all the barrels were free for the taking.
@@TrehanCreekOutdoors lol ok. Thanks
Thought it was illegal to collect rain water
Varies with location
I don’t know if any you guys notice but when he cut the downspout if you look closely in the bottom one it was shoved under so all the water is just going to go on the outside of the downspout not the inside
Zackary Hilton , good eye. More than a few things wrong about this project.
what city was this? Looks very cool
Elise is hot af.
Sad these "This Old House" videos never give all the information about these DIY projects. For example. In this video they don't discuss venting the barrel for proper water flow. Or how to prevent mosquitoes and algae...and so on. Basically just look at these videos as a starting point for your research, definitely not the end
I can almost guarantee this setup has long been scrapped and she is no longer using it.
This works if you get a free barrel and tap. Also you need tools to cut the hole. I paid 45.00 for my blue barrel with brass tap. Do not use a white barrel.
I've installed two barrels on my property. My first concern is that there is no overflow opening. You risk damaging the hose and diverter by backing water up into them when the barrel is full. There's no opening to allow air in, for a smooth flow of water and to let any trace water in an empty barrel evaporate vs. grow bacteria. A white barrel allows some sunlight in, which will promote algae. That barrel is going to stink eventually and may attract pests. It appears to be a 3rd story apartment -- how is she supposed to drain the barrel when she doesn't need the water? Just dump it on the deck?! And lastly the base is narrower than the barrel which could create a tipping risk. Sure it was cheap but that's a lot of potential problems.
Phyrre56 Plus there is no way to let air out as water comes in, so it backs up through diverted and out downspout, NEEDS a VENT !!
You are so right ! ,
It is fed by a gutter which sits in the open air. The downspout is a vent.
@@davidkopec9442 I thinking of doing this next year, will add a overflow anyways
Regarding faucets: are there faucets (like this one) that have a hose connection that’s lead-free and/or is good for human consumption of water?
what about overflows?
It looks like it'll fill up back into the hose and then overflow down the gutter
KuntryBoi though the hose connection isn’t watertight. It’s only good for streaming water, not for holding volumes. It will be leaking at the joints. Maybe the leaking water creates ugly spots on the floor or on the wall over the years.
I have one I use to keep my fish pond water fresh & topped off. I installed a spigot at the top and run a hose into the pond. Every time it rains the overflow goes into the pond. In the winter I move the hose to the bottom spigot and leave that open. That way the barrel remains empty and can't crack from freeze up.
There is no 1in Boiler Drain! They dont exist??
So they're up on the second-story deck any idea what the structure that deck is to support 55 gallons of water we see deck failures all the time
another hottie, where are they all keep coming from
He didn’t read the instructions. The way he installed it, the barrel will overflow.
Can't even find non-food-grade barrels for $5.
On Craigslist all the time here in Ct but...
on long island you can find them for $20
OK rain barrel sit to low so use 2 more cinder blocks to lift it up further. Also the rain water split unit should had been sit higher to begin with so that the 1" small hose only run's down and not like in this video demonstrated uphill before it goes into the barrel.
thank you for the Great video. can I use 6 cinder blocks instead of 2 to give it more elevation and get better water pressure?
Esplender M It’s 1 bar of pressure per 10 meters height. Adding 2 heights of cinder blocks would not even add 0.1 bar. Use a pump.
@@Engineer9736 When I elevate my water box, the water comes out much faster into my jug, and I only lift it into the air like 1 foot higher than on my kitchen counter...It works..So yes, even a little higher works, Esplender M.
It is not the elevation of the barrel, it is the height of the water column that corresponds to the pressure increase
Such a cool day. I lived on the street over and as I open the door that morning I see Tom walking by and the whole crew getting ready to film.
Did he have his valve out?
all the way out@@danstvguy
What about overflow? It looks like she is in a second story apartment too. The neighbor below might have some issues with it!
I have the same question!
I’d put in some type of check valve at the top and then plumb in some pvc pipe or have another hose diverting the overflow water to where you want it to go. Or just skip the check valve and just use the hose
You can do this on a much larger scale by using 250 gallon food grade tanks...around $25 used. And a downspout to 2inch pvc converter and run pvc pipes to the tanks. Fot larger gardens of course...best part you can always buy a tank for $25 and add it since you already having piping done, just use an elbow.
That second story porch ain't gonna hold the weight of 250 gallons of water dude! Ground level is fine but not this little porch!
@@hotrodhog2170 oh I know mine are on the ground. Was just saying you can use same concept on a alrger scale.
How we do keep algae from growing inside the barrel?
will white paint work? I want mine to match my white house.
use Krylon black acryllic paint. that adheres to plastic
Vertigo Studios Put a black layer on first to block sunlight, then decorate it with a white layer. The white outside even would heat up less than black so that’s even better.
let the water run through a filter
Mos people that I know bury them in the ground. or they encase them so there is no sunlight, however you should always add an air stone to keep the water from getting stag net.
2:20 You want to hold my valve? 🤦♀️ Awkward and embarrassing moment for the poor lady. 😒 Also, many things wrong with this installation. Don't do it this way. Read through the comments for tips on how to install it correctly.
Interesting
What happens if the barrel overfills?
The water backs up into the diverter, then comes goes down the down spout.
I am so glad I found this video. I didn't even know there was a diverter. I was looking to put a Gutter on the side of my garage. Thank you
I can't help but notice the bib has a handle that is in the same direction as the connector. Overtime, turning the handle will loosen the bib. Seems to me an easy solution is just use a bib to have a horizontal handle.
Its a good idea to anchor the barrel. Thats a lot of weight balancing on a concrete block when its full.
Before I watch this video I did't understand the process, but after I watched it I still dont understand.
I can not find a black diverter like Tom has in video. Our gutters are black - all I can find is a white diverter ,.
Yummm...Nothing beats the flavor of roof shingles, bird sh*t, moldy gutters and old artificially made fruit punch in my water.
you could have lead flashing up there so don't forget that nice metallic flavor
I remember he got an old black and decker now he moved up to milwalkee
T -DUB , likely dropped it off the railing at 2:52 Somebody on the sidewalk is running with it.
Tommy, you had me at sillcock