Mansfield Park | ‘I Do Not Know You’ (HD) - Frances O'Connor, Jonny Lee Miller | MIRAMAX
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- In the wake of Henry and Maria’s affair, Edmund (Jonny Lee Miller) discovers a whole new and cutting side to his beloved Mary Crawford (Embeth Davidtz).
In this scene: Edmund Bertram (Jonny Lee Miller), Mary Crawford (Embeth Davidtz), Fanny Price (Frances O'Connor), Mrs. Price/Lady Bertram (Lindsay Duncan)
About Mansfield Park:
When a spirited young woman is sent away to live on the great country estate of her rich cousins, she's meant to learn the ways of proper society, but she also enlightens them with a wit and sparkle all her own.
Starring, in alphabetical order: Hugh Bonneville, Embeth Davidtz, Lindsay Duncan, Jonny Lee Miller, Alessandro Nivola, Frances O'Connor, James Purefoy
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Mansfield Park | ‘I Do Not Know You’ (HD) - Frances O'Connor, Jonny Lee Miller | MIRAMAX
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HOLY COW, this is the actress who played Miss Honey in Matilda!
IKR
WHAT??!!
What???
WAIT WHAT SHE IS??????
She was also Natasha, Mark Darcy's snobby, bossy girlfriend in Bridget Jones's Diary.
my GOD JLM looks so young and baby-faced here. I only got to "know" him and his acting through 2009 Emma and the CBS series Elementary that finished in 2019, so seeing 1999 JLM is a surprise. A pleasant one at that, because his acting has always been good.
One of my favorite scenes from the movie. It may not be true to the book, but it such an unveiling of Mary's true character - you cannot help being shocked alongside with the family.
It showed that she cared more about their daughter than they did. HER brother's reputation would have been fine. Mary should have been the heroine but she deserved better than Edmund.
@@MilkyWhite1 Wow no, not at all! Mary Crawford cared nothing for Maria. She wanted Tom to die so that Edmund would inherit the money so she could get her hands on it. She cared about no one but herself. She wanted to justify what her brother and Maria had done so she'd be accepted into the family thus get their money. Henry disgraced himself also. Men could get bad reputations too although I agree it was unfair in those days as women were expected to be virginal more than men were.
@MilkyWhite I agree with Bernice’s reply. I also totally love your willingness to look at this from another angle! I would encourage a revisit on where you’ve landed, though. The daughter legitimately messed up, and Mary was taking advantage of the family’s multiple weak spots to set herself up for marriage and fortune. She would let a man die and gladly spend his money. That’s not the mindset of a heroine. That’s the mindset of a narcissist. ✌🏻
@@Shelley464 "She would let a man die and gladly spend his money." Er, where in the book is this stated as fact? Certainly NOT in Mary's letter to Fanny in which she specifically says that she hopes Tom will recover. She then goes on to make an at best very distasteful "joke" and fantasise in (again, at best) a nauseating way about what would happen if Tom were to die.
Now consider this from Ch 48: it's the penultimate paragraph of the book:
"With so much true merit and true love, and no want of fortune and friends, the happiness of the married cousins must appear as secure as earthly happiness can be. Equally formed for domestic life, and attached to country pleasures, their home was the home of affection and comfort; and to complete the picture of GOOD the acquisition of Mansfield living, by the DEATH OF DR GRANT, occurred just after they had been married long enough to begin to want an increase of income, and feel their distance from the paternal abode an inconvenience." (My emphases)
So Edmund and Fanny benefit by a death and that is GOOD. No condolences to the widow (the only wholly likeable character in the book); no sympathy for the death of a fellow-clergyman. Just GOOD, we've got the Mansfield living, and with Fanny pregnant, we need the money. Also we can spend our evenings with Mum, Dad and Tom, with dinners paid for by the profits of a slave plantation. And you have the nerve to criticise Mary.
"She wanted to justify what her brother and Maria had done so she'd be accepted into the family thus get their money." Actually, she wouldn't - the family (or rather, Edmund) would get her £20,000: in this period, she would have virtually no rights after marriage and any fortune that she had as Miss Crawford would become her husband's immediately upon marriage (unless a very sharp lawyer drew up an impregnable pre-marriage settlement).
Incidentally, can I assume that you also despise Elinor Dashwood - she actually wishes for the death of a person of whom she knows nothing other than a bit of gossip from Mrs Jennings and what her (Mrs Willoughby's) husband has related. True, Elinor changes her mind almost immediately - but not out of sympathy for Mrs Willoughby, rather because Colonel Brandon is more "deserving"(!!!!) of Marianne than is Willoughby.
@@HRJohn1944 Mansfield Park is not a "plantation." Also, not a good idea to make an assumption about another commenter and tell them what you think they should believe.
"This is 1806, for heaven's sake!" I remember the laughter in the theater at that line from Mary a few moments before this scene, such a great thumb in the eye to the "what's newer is automatically right" philosophy,
Talk about TONE DEAF MARY!!! 😂
It's very different from the book and I'm not sure how I feel about the changes they made, but it's still a good movie. Mary's always been an interesting character because she's pretty much the only shallow and superficial Jane Austen character who's actually genuinely nice to the lead character (except for in this scene of course).
One can argue Fanny Price is not genuine at ALL. In the book she comes off as this calculating, upstart vixen who hides under a Cinderalla meek rag gown.
I"m not sure Tony has read the same book.
I mean, she is mostly uncaring, when Henry tells her he intends to "wound Fanny Price's heart" she just sort of shrugs and lets him do it, when what he's doing could very well deeply hurt Fanny as well as her reputation (and consequently her future). And she's all like, eh, it'll be fine! And then giving a necklace which on the surface seemed nice was really to give Fanny something from Henry to further his plans of making Fanny fall for him. All in all, I don't think she's all that nice.
there are many to pick from, each with its own interesting changes to love or hate.
@@tonyausten2168 The many things that make Fanny unlikeable and unappealing for modern readers do not include her being calculating. I am 100% certain, even tough I don't care for her very much.
I want to know how true to the book Fanny is. I started to watch the one with Billie Piper and after about three minutes I gave up because they'd totally turned Fanny's character upside down. The whole point of Fanny was that still waters ran deep.
Rozema's Fanny is totally unlike Austen's. If that's what you're looking for, you'll find this adaptation endlessly frustrating.
If, however, you are a fan of Austen's writings, including her juvenilia, you will likely find much to enjoy. This is a smart, savvy adaptation whose changes make the lead character more compelling on screen than a Fanny based entirely on the book could hope to be. Austen's use of free indirect discourse humanizes the novel's morally strict, submissive heroine--a character who could be (and is) accused of being a pushover. It might be possible to bring out the best of Austen's Fanny on film without making her unlikable, but it would be a tall order. She's certainly not Austen's most-loved heroine.
Personally, I don't mind Fanny being reimagined because she still has a great deal of depth here. Like Austen's Fanny, Rozema's is torn between love and duty, emotion and reason, her internal moral compass and what the world tells her is right or smart. I love Austen's novel AND I love this film. If Fanny changes, the themes stay the same--and the acting, sets, and music bring it all together beautifully.
@@laurarash45 Slyvestra le Tousel's Portrayal of Fanny in the 1983 BBC Miniseries adaptation is definitely the most accurate depiction of the character from the book.
@@laurarash45 Fanny is probably my least favorite heroin and I don't think I'm alone in that. One of the criticisms of the book when it came out is that she and Edmunds are just observers. She has depth but not much that is becoming. However, the book itself is one of my favorites.
I think that introverts are very difficult to play onscreen! You either have to do endless voiceovers or in this case- Fanny writing the JA juvenalia- in order to show there is more going on inside the character than what we see onscreen. I thought this play did a better job of making Fanny demure but strong.
I couldn't watch the
Billie Piper one either, its was entirely wrong to me.
The very definition of OWNED
Best scene in the entire movie!
what lipstick colour edmund use?😂
Happy Sloth omg yes
🤣
James McAvoy has also been accused of wearing lipstick. Both James and Jonny Lee have naturally red lips. It actually would have been a good idea to put a pale color on them to tone them down.
Can't believe Edmund was Sickboy
He wasn't. That would be Jonny Lee Miller, the actor who's playing Edmund.
Ah, I always get Embeth Davitz and Emilia Fox mixed up! They look so similar: I was convinced it was Emilia Fox playing Mary when I first saw this.
This actually looks like a pretty decent adaptation of Mansfield Park: Embeth Davitz, now I know it is definitely her, does a perfect job at portraying how foul Mary is; Fanny also looks pretty good. Nicely done!
They aren't so similar-looking actually...
Not sure about the book. Love this film that was adapted from the characters. Comments here have Fanny and Mary just the opposite of what is played in these scenes from what I have read. Frances O'Conner scores with me. Love the ending with the summation ... It could have ,... And then , but it didn't. If it wasn't written that way.... It should have been .
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This woman is so frightening, Who is this creature?
She's almost as bad here as when she snapped her fingers at mark Darcy in Bridget Jones like he was a dog.
I’m looking forward to the day when a holy g0d says “you will not do this in my name.”
This is still so cringey!!! Horrible character...great actress!!!
The actresses playing Fanny and Mary are too old. They're supposed to be late teens, early 20s not early 30s.
I agree. Mary especially seemed to be in her early 30’s. Fanny could pass for mid twenties but I thought the casting could do better in that department. Though the acting was believable.
That is kind of harsh
righteous judgement
The house they filmed this in is so bland. The costumes are blah too.
LOL This Fanny is not the Book Fanny. LOL This Fanny is a silent calculating monster who is too funny looool
very bad sound!
this is ABOMINATION
I "do not know" this adaptation. Whoever wrote it inserted every possible cliche to spice it up for modern audiences. Yep, Fanny is now a feisty, before-her-time young woman, but there's so much more. Some of the performances are good, but otherwise: awful.
What a strambotic adaptation! Hardly worth calling it Mansfield Park, really. Weird.
Terrible adaptation.Jane Austen would be turning in her grave.And abusing Queen Elizabeth I too !!!
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