AMC was surprised to learn that Grand Wagoneers shared the garages with porshces, lambos, and Ferraris. they were very popular as winter vehicles for the top 10% wage earners back then.
@extremedrivr Jeep being a sister brand to Fiat and Renault is pretty much where the same spot they were in during the first half of the 1980s. People forget that the Eagle, Cherokee XJ and Grand Cherokee were developed under the Fiat-Renault/AMC Alliance. The unibody came from a Fiat Fiorino pickup and all Jeeps manufactured between 1985-1986 were technically built by Renault. This isn't their first rodeo together.
Yeah, this was before the suv boom in the early 90’s. We had a couple of wicked snowstorms in the Northeast and suddenly car companies realized the money that could be made. I bought my 94 grand Cherokee right before this boom. It is still my favorite car I’ve ever owned.
The Grand Wagoneer is my absolute favorite 4-wheeler, with the classic woody wagon body and go anywhere construction, it is one of the most classic American SUVs with plenty of prestige.
The Wagoneer is the grandpa of the all actually SUVs. In my house had a 1979 Wagoneer Limited, with two tones paint, (beige with brown) . It new in that year 1979, and I had oportunity to drive with almost 14 years old, smooth and quite driving. A beautiful vehicle.
I love the old Wagoneers, body designed by Brooks Stevens, they were produced for about 30 years with little changes. Very practical. My dad bought one new in late 66 and last year gave it to me, over 300,000 miles on it. I grew up in that car. I had a beat up 73, a 78, and84 Grand. Now have two 67's and a rolling 70. Practical and stylish, not the most fuel efficient. I remember when gas prices went up in the 70's and 80's at times the small CJ's held their value but good used Wagoneers could be gotten cheap. I sold my 84 Grand, in fairly good shape with new tires for $800 several years back. During Obama's cash for clunkers I saw in a news report, someone draining the oil and pouring something into the engine of a nice Grand Wagoneer to lock it up before sending it to the crusher. Sickening. Look what they fetch today in good shape!
The Kaiser Jeep Wagoneer was the first "SUV" with IFS. It was discontinued after the first year, 1963. The SJ platform was originally created to fill the all-weather station wagon segment that didn't exist. Henry J Kaiser was trying to offer a vehicle that would do everything a mid-size wagon would do but in a foot or two of snow.
Seeing this brings back fond memories of my dad's unstoppable '75 Cherokee. 360 2V, three speed manual with the stick sprouting from a mountainous tranny hump, rubber floor mats, 8-track tape deck, and you had to get out and lock the hubs to put her in four wheel drive. I think we put something like 200,000 on it before selling it in 1987 and replacing it with a new Ford Ranger pickup. The body was really going by then, but the guy who bought it still got another few thousand miles out of it.
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats thirty-five.. Canyonero! Canyonero! Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down, It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown! Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero! [Krusty:] Hey Hey The Federal Highway comission has ruled the Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving. Canyonero! 12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American Pride!
The Tall Deck AMC 360 got around 18mpg highway/13 city. Average should've been 15-16mpg. Of course, if you ran Premium gas per AMC's recommendation, you could add another couple of miles per gallon, but most people ran Regular and bitched about the poor fuel economy. I had a solid average of 21 mpg from Austin, TX to El Sobrante, CA doing 65mph on the interstate pulling a trailer with two Honda motorcycles. That was on 93 and 91 octane Texaco, and minimal air conditioning. Driving like a maniac in stop and go city driving with the A/C on full blast and 87 octane, I'd get about 12 mpg.
You can have one, if you can find one and have fairly deep pockets. They're worth a small fortune now, although less expensive than a 4-5 year old similar SUV.
Those old Wagoneers almost single handedly kept many mechanic shops open through the eighties and early nineties. Then the K car came and took its place.
@@waterheaterservices you have to admit, AMC did pretty good for only having spare parts from other manufacturers. I’d take an old mid 70’s Jeep with a straight 6 in a heartbeat
Cool. I'll probably pull cut it back to 1 or 2 per week until I find a more time friendly way to digitize this old tape...But as of now I've got a lot done and I'm anxious to get it seen.
I want one of these so bad. And the 13/18 mileage isn't that bad really, I thought it would have been worse. That's on par with most of today's SUV's. And it's funny, even then there was confusion of V6 vs I6 (straight 6 ), I'm pretty sure the 4.2L is a I6, and the precursor to the 4.0L.
Yes the 4.2L is a straight 6. Not very popular in these Jeeps though, most were equipped with the 360 V8. Pretty economical even with today's fake fuel economy numbers. The Jeep was steel and had a full frame...many of today's SUV's are nothing more than fiberglass, plastic, and well there isn't a frame, you wreck it, it flies to pieces you just clean up the mess with a broom and dustpan.
Another version of your classic series to go along with your Throwback Thursdays. That's a good thing considering the hundreds and hundreds of reviews you've done over the decades. OK, my guess for this Thursday's Throwback, especially with a short wheelbase as mentioned (and 4-wheel drive), sounds like it could be a Subaru. Since the focus has been on unusual vehicles lately, I will say the Subaru Brat - that funky, pick-up/car thing. :-)
I do remember those in the 80’s ... man that light tan interior is absolutely legendary gorgeous timeless classic from the 70’s and 80’s era , most police vehicles came with that interior, this Jeep is gorgeous inside out so plushy inside . Thank you for this classic videos I love every episode. Australia 🇦🇺
Leandro Machado once the rich had their fun with them (they were mostly bought by the top 10% earners), the working class turned them into plow trucks and woods trucks and they rotted away. You don’t see them around very often like you used to.
CamaroAmx yes it’s a shame , they look like they wouldn’t take much to rust if those woodgrain panel was vinyl inserts and all those mouldings details , but yes a lot great cars used to destroyed in those metal presser too , and the monster trucks shows destroyed heaps , very often I watch old classics motions pictures and I see muscle cars in good conditions in those old 70’s 80’s old dismantling wrecking yard all on top of each other, cars like mustangs , Camaros and great station wagons .... yes I guess that is how it goes , win some and lose some . Thank you for the info , cool looking SUVs for sure and I do remember them in that “Big Foot” tv show or movie if my 80’s memories still serves me right , I think they used to have the same one in those Tv series/movie .
just got a 66 a little over a year ago. we love the wagon, the only problem is everywhere you go you will have to talk to someone about it. It seem everyone had one in the family or a friend did at some point.
Own a 1991 Grand wag Final Limited 1986 Grand wag and a few J10's they truly are the most comfortable yet rugged offroad family rigs u can get ur hands on
I used to work for AMC back in the day. They were pretty good reliable trucks except when the vacuum motors would rust up for the 4WD and the tailgate glass would pop out of its track.
FYI the gear grinding is normal in those transfer cases. Also, if it happened to have the owner's manual you should have read the shifting instructions where it says to be rolling 2-3mph shift transmission to neutral then shift to low range or vice versa. Most vehicles you have to be at a dead stop, not so with the Jeep Transfer Cases back then. Hmm, 13 city 18 highway. That's what my 2008 Toyota Tundra 4x4 5.7L truck got. Goes to show the new stuff isn't any better. I'd love a Jeep Grand Wagoneer if I can find one in good enough condition without an astronomical price. Found one last year for $7500 and it looked like nobody ever used it for anything, can't remember the mileage on it but it looked brand new inside and out...whoever owned it took excellent care of it. That 360 V8 is a great engine, and it certainly can get the Grand Wagoneer moving pretty quickly...imagine that same engine in the 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee...the only year Jeep offered the Grand Cherokee with the 360 :(.
Thats about what my 02 Explorer 4x4 w/ 4.6L V8 is rated at too. Seems like even with all this emissions stuff it doesn't help at all for improving economy. Plus they're so heavy with all the safety equipment.
My 98 Grand Cherokee 5.2 will grind like that if shifting when stopped. I agree the only proper way to do it rolling very slowly and doing a "Firm" but not violent shift. lol
Kieran Curtis....you are absolutely out of your mind...AMC did their best to ruin the Jeep nameplate...Kaiser, and Willys before that, made REAL Jeeps, AMC made junk, and as just one example of this, just look at the AMC 20 rear end in their first year of production, compared to the Dana 44 used in the last year of the Kaiser....
Kieran Curtis. You're 100% correct. Chrysler has ruined Jeep, but I think Renault would have done the same thing to Jeep if it still owned AMC currently - the Cherokee would be based on the Mégane and not the Alfa Romeo Giuliettia in this case.
So this is where cars went wrong, the birth of the upscale SUV segment. I had the chance to own one of these but my dad crushed it without asking me when he was finally ready to let go of it. 141 ft. braking was pretty great back then.
5:12 "The standard 4.2 liter V6 does a full third better" on flat terrain with only 1 person in the thing. With a full passenger load in hilly terrain that INLINE 6 would be so overmatched that it would probably burn more fuel than the V8 would
great cars!!! Had 2...put almost 300K on my first and 185K on the second....then bought a 7 series BMW...life hasn't been complete since, lol. Contemplated getting another one from the Wagonmaster in TX, but I understand Jeep is going to come out with one similar in 2017. Great video, brought back great memories as my first was a 1983 (Dark Blue).
I don't know I still don't trust Chrysler with doing the old Wagoneer a justice, especially since it'll be built off of the Dodge Durango. Plus it'll look all MOABbed up because Jeep designers don't know how else to make a car anymore.
Who could have ever guessed these would gain cult status and command premium prices, even for rusted out, well used examples today. Back in the 1980s, it seemed like such a dated design. Today, that's part of its appeal.
Although no one in my family has ever owned a classic Jeep Wagoneer, it's always been a vehicle I've admired. It's a shame that it was never offered with a turbo diesel engine. It would've offered better fuel economy than its gasoline powered V8 engine.
+tman008 Disgraceful. If built right, a turbo diesel can achieve longevity, lots of power, torque, and better fuel economy, while being better for the environment.
The mileage doesn't seem terrible. My Explorer with the hearty 4.6L V8 is rated at 13 city 17 highway and 14 combined. I get about 15mpg and on freeway trips 18 or 19. Not sure if that's good for a 1983 or bad for a 2002 lol
sethinator224 the MPG ratings have changed since then. Today it’s closer to 16mpg overall, 18 highway, 13 city if you drive like you have an egg under the gas pedal.
Chrysler, GM and Ford cars and trucks are almost the same in terms of technology and styling from the late-70s to the early-90s, look at an early 90s Buick and tell me the same car could have been produced 20 years earlier.
AMC was surprised to learn that Grand Wagoneers shared the garages with porshces, lambos, and Ferraris. they were very popular as winter vehicles for the top 10% wage earners back then.
CamaroAmx Neurosurgeon down the street had one. You look at that street today, lord almighty all $70k+ SUVs. At the time, SUV were quite unusual.
Until the Range Rover was introduced to the US...the Wagoneer was way more reliable, though!
@@brentboswell1294 Range Rovers are made by the Chinese now. How sad. Lol
And Jeeps now made by Fiat. Yikes!!
Sad time indeed.
Kinda like the Toyota Land Cruiser
@extremedrivr Jeep being a sister brand to Fiat and Renault is pretty much where the same spot they were in during the first half of the 1980s. People forget that the Eagle, Cherokee XJ and Grand Cherokee were developed under the Fiat-Renault/AMC Alliance. The unibody came from a Fiat Fiorino pickup and all Jeeps manufactured between 1985-1986 were technically built by Renault. This isn't their first rodeo together.
These are the Grand Daddy of the luxury SUV'S. Escalade's and Navigators owe there existence to this one.
This was the Escalade of it's day, and it only cost $18,000. Even adjusted for inflation that's only $43,000 today.
Still cheaper than a lot of newer GM SUVs after inflation adjustment. Give me this over a new Tahoe any day of the year and I'd be happy!!
Yeah, this was before the suv boom in the early 90’s. We had a couple of wicked snowstorms in the Northeast and suddenly car companies realized the money that could be made. I bought my 94 grand Cherokee right before this boom. It is still my favorite car I’ve ever owned.
Damn thats a good price.
@@NemeanLion- I had a regular Cherokee and I miss it.
I've always wondered how they do a actual adjustment from yesturday dollars to today's dollars l.
I absolutely love watching these classic MotorWeek road tests! I'm a huge fan of both the current and classic episodes.
So much so, you steal them and post them to your own channel!
I love classic Motor Week Retro Reviews, my favorite
I had one of these (an '81) when I lived in Denver back in the '80s. They used to nickname them "Colorado Cadillacs".
The Grand Wagoneer is my absolute favorite 4-wheeler, with the classic woody wagon body and go anywhere construction, it is one of the most classic American SUVs with plenty of prestige.
Grand Wagonner, is my favorite 4-wheeler 1985-1988. Remember classics woody
I still want one (;
They're not easy to find in any kind of shape. I just had to struggle through another winter in my little XJ.
Go to Wyoming. There are a seemingly endless amount of them there.
tman008 Good to know.
+tman008 google it and believe,there is still many trucks avaiable
Me too, the ones I find are either torn to hell or the seller wants a ridiculous price for them.
The Wagoneer is the grandpa of the all actually SUVs. In my house had a 1979 Wagoneer Limited, with two tones paint, (beige with brown) . It new in that year 1979, and I had oportunity to drive with almost 14 years old, smooth and quite driving. A beautiful vehicle.
Had one years ago , absolutely loved it.
Lol @ 2:00 he's slapping that hinge around like it owes him money
Josh d 👍👍👍👍👍Too funny.
Josh d "where's the money Lebowski?!"
That's too funny...
In Stewie Griffin voice
*Where's my money, bitch?!*
They always beat on levers, buttons, knobs, etc in these vids
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I WOULD LOVE TO BUY AN OLD GRAND WAGONEER AND UPDATE IT WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY!!!! SO MUCH FUN!!!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!
That's a collectors truck now! And very sought after. Love to have one now!
I love the old Wagoneers, body designed by Brooks Stevens, they were produced for about 30 years with little changes. Very practical. My dad bought one new in late 66 and last year gave it to me, over 300,000 miles on it. I grew up in that car. I had a beat up 73, a 78, and84 Grand. Now have two 67's and a rolling 70. Practical and stylish, not the most fuel efficient. I remember when gas prices went up in the 70's and 80's at times the small CJ's held their value but good used Wagoneers could be gotten cheap. I sold my 84 Grand, in fairly good shape with new tires for $800 several years back. During Obama's cash for clunkers I saw in a news report, someone draining the oil and pouring something into the engine of a nice Grand Wagoneer to lock it up before sending it to the crusher. Sickening. Look what they fetch today in good shape!
I love the entire older lineup of Jeep rigs. They put the majority of the current lineup to shame.
God! the guy slapping those tailgate hinges around was treating them like they owed him money! 🤣
The Kaiser Jeep Wagoneer was the first "SUV" with IFS. It was discontinued after the first year, 1963. The SJ platform was originally created to fill the all-weather station wagon segment that didn't exist. Henry J Kaiser was trying to offer a vehicle that would do everything a mid-size wagon would do but in a foot or two of snow.
My parents had two Grand Wagoneers for their winter survival driving in Michigan. A brown woody and a blue woody.
Lucky! You were rich
Seeing this brings back fond memories of my dad's unstoppable '75 Cherokee. 360 2V, three speed manual with the stick sprouting from a mountainous tranny hump, rubber floor mats, 8-track tape deck, and you had to get out and lock the hubs to put her in four wheel drive. I think we put something like 200,000 on it before selling it in 1987 and replacing it with a new Ford Ranger pickup. The body was really going by then, but the guy who bought it still got another few thousand miles out of it.
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!
Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!
[Krusty:] Hey Hey
The Federal Highway comission has ruled the
Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving.
Canyonero!
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!
HA !
best
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
CANYANERO CANYANERO 🎶
Better representative of the H2 and H3 though.
i had the limited version. i think these mileage ratings were optimistic.
Very. Even 14 from a Wagoneer was high.
EPA numbers back then were so heavily massaged that they were effectively useless.
The Tall Deck AMC 360 got around 18mpg highway/13 city. Average should've been 15-16mpg. Of course, if you ran Premium gas per AMC's recommendation, you could add another couple of miles per gallon, but most people ran Regular and bitched about the poor fuel economy. I had a solid average of 21 mpg from Austin, TX to El Sobrante, CA doing 65mph on the interstate pulling a trailer with two Honda motorcycles. That was on 93 and 91 octane Texaco, and minimal air conditioning. Driving like a maniac in stop and go city driving with the A/C on full blast and 87 octane, I'd get about 12 mpg.
One of the best looking vehicles Jeep has ever made.
Agreed! I have 2!
Except that fake plastiwood siding. I never understood why American manufacturers insisted on putting it on so many station wagons and SUVs.
2022 Grand Wagoneer review was amazing, had to come see if there was a review for the earlier one!
That's one beautiful dinosaur! I would love to have that truck today!
You can have one, if you can find one and have fairly deep pockets. They're worth a small fortune now, although less expensive than a 4-5 year old similar SUV.
@@davidp8627 yup! They're becoming highly collectible, and very expensive! Like you said! If you can find one!
They are very expensive. There's a guy that restores them on eBay.
You can buy them for around $1000 that just need mechanical work and a little body work. At least where I am
This Jeep wagoneer was used in movies up until the mid-nineties . It was used in the nineties version of the Incredible Journey movie
The Great Outdoor. John Candy's character drove one.
Those old Wagoneers almost single handedly kept many mechanic shops open through the eighties and early nineties. Then the K car came and took its place.
...hint, it does have 4wd
Toyota Land Cruiser from way back?
Thank you, guys. Keep pulling these out of the vaults-please!
As a youngster I didn't appreciate these wood sided barges. Now I would love to own one. Modern cars are so anaemic.
Sure beats all that plastic crap of today
Amen to that brother.
The interior is plastic lol
My gosh, that's the 1970 Hornet instrument panel
😂😂😂 really?
It's essentially a Kaiser remade by AMC, with some of the not so great AMC components.
@@waterheaterservices you have to admit, AMC did pretty good for only having spare parts from other manufacturers. I’d take an old mid 70’s Jeep with a straight 6 in a heartbeat
No, it’s completely different than the Hornet IP.
@@nicklikesradio Not at all.
In the movie "What about Bob" Dr Leo Marvin drove one of these.
Claudio Auriemma Yes and when I first watched that movie as a kid, I immediately wanted one someday. The one in the movie was a ‘79 model.
What prescription did Dr. Leo prescribe?
That was hillarious. "Transfer case still good training for the olympics". Lol
"Though smaller than many midsized cars..." God I wish I was around the 80s.
It's astonishing to see how far SUVs have come...
Boy, I could sure tell some stories about our 75 black Wagoner with a 401. Great hunting stories that can last a lifetime.
I worked at Bill Kirk VW AMC in 83. I loved driving these Jeeps. Very plush for the day
The 4.2 liter “V6” that was mentioned is actually the AMC 258 inline 6 and was the smallest available engine for this model
You are correct! I caught that too.
Much love AMC, RIP.
Awesome! Memories Monday should work out great.
Cool. I'll probably pull cut it back to 1 or 2 per week until I find a more time friendly way to digitize this old tape...But as of now I've got a lot done and I'm anxious to get it seen.
***** You guys are rocking RUclips! Keep up the great work!
Yeah, I'm sure you'll eventually find a way to get them done more efficiently.
A year before the XJ Cherokee was released, my personal favourite vehicle of all time.
the spare tire setup was just great in the snow
I had worked on an 1984 AMC Jeep Wagoner the other day with both my dad, and father!
Hint 2- It's an import with a 96.7 inch wheelbase
1985 monte carlo ;b
I had to get rid of my 79 last year 360 Quadra Trac 318000 miles awesome vehicle one of best vehicles I have ever owned.
Braking of 141 feet from 55 mph was at the better end of average?Vehicles have significantly improved since then! Love the video.
I would take this over an 80 series Land Cruiser.
Eightosaurus Spelunk you’re crazy
You’re a nut job aren’t you?
I want one of these so bad. And the 13/18 mileage isn't that bad really, I thought it would have been worse. That's on par with most of today's SUV's. And it's funny, even then there was confusion of V6 vs I6 (straight 6 ), I'm pretty sure the 4.2L is a I6, and the precursor to the 4.0L.
Yes the 4.2L is a straight 6. Not very popular in these Jeeps though, most were equipped with the 360 V8. Pretty economical even with today's fake fuel economy numbers. The Jeep was steel and had a full frame...many of today's SUV's are nothing more than fiberglass, plastic, and well there isn't a frame, you wreck it, it flies to pieces you just clean up the mess with a broom and dustpan.
My dad had 1 of these back when i was younger..i remember going hunting and offroading in arkansas and dover deleware👍
Another version of your classic series to go along with your Throwback Thursdays. That's a good thing considering the hundreds and hundreds of reviews you've done over the decades.
OK, my guess for this Thursday's Throwback, especially with a short wheelbase as mentioned (and 4-wheel drive), sounds like it could be a Subaru. Since the focus has been on unusual vehicles lately, I will say the Subaru Brat - that funky, pick-up/car thing. :-)
Cool! I grew up with a Grand Wagoneer as a family car. Great memories! Not that powerful, or refined, though. Thanks for these videos!
@@Ethan-um7cp I love this gen of Jeep Wagoneer, my favorites, 85 - 88
I do remember those in the 80’s ... man that light tan interior is absolutely legendary gorgeous timeless classic from the 70’s and 80’s era , most police vehicles came with that interior, this Jeep is gorgeous inside out so plushy inside .
Thank you for this classic videos I love every episode.
Australia 🇦🇺
Leandro Machado once the rich had their fun with them (they were mostly bought by the top 10% earners), the working class turned them into plow trucks and woods trucks and they rotted away. You don’t see them around very often like you used to.
CamaroAmx yes it’s a shame , they look like they wouldn’t take much to rust if those woodgrain panel was vinyl inserts and all those mouldings details , but yes a lot great cars used to destroyed in those metal presser too , and the monster trucks shows destroyed heaps , very often I watch old classics motions pictures and I see muscle cars in good conditions in those old 70’s 80’s old dismantling wrecking yard all on top of each other, cars like mustangs , Camaros and great station wagons .... yes I guess that is how it goes , win some and lose some .
Thank you for the info , cool looking SUVs for sure and I do remember them in that “Big Foot” tv show or movie if my 80’s memories still serves me right , I think they used to have the same one in those Tv series/movie .
just got a 66 a little over a year ago. we love the wagon, the only problem is everywhere you go you will have to talk to someone about it. It seem everyone had one in the family or a friend did at some point.
I still see a few of those Grand Wagoneers on the roads occasionally. Classic ride. Its also in several movies
Own a 1991 Grand wag Final Limited 1986 Grand wag and a few J10's they truly are the most comfortable yet rugged offroad family rigs u can get ur hands on
+mattmopar440 Back when Jeeps were Jeeps
I used to work for AMC back in the day. They were pretty good reliable trucks except when the vacuum motors would rust up for the 4WD and the tailgate glass would pop out of its track.
FYI the gear grinding is normal in those transfer cases. Also, if it happened to have the owner's manual you should have read the shifting instructions where it says to be rolling 2-3mph shift transmission to neutral then shift to low range or vice versa. Most vehicles you have to be at a dead stop, not so with the Jeep Transfer Cases back then.
Hmm, 13 city 18 highway. That's what my 2008 Toyota Tundra 4x4 5.7L truck got. Goes to show the new stuff isn't any better. I'd love a Jeep Grand Wagoneer if I can find one in good enough condition without an astronomical price. Found one last year for $7500 and it looked like nobody ever used it for anything, can't remember the mileage on it but it looked brand new inside and out...whoever owned it took excellent care of it. That 360 V8 is a great engine, and it certainly can get the Grand Wagoneer moving pretty quickly...imagine that same engine in the 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee...the only year Jeep offered the Grand Cherokee with the 360 :(.
Thats about what my 02 Explorer 4x4 w/ 4.6L V8 is rated at too. Seems like even with all this emissions stuff it doesn't help at all for improving economy. Plus they're so heavy with all the safety equipment.
My 98 Grand Cherokee 5.2 will grind like that if shifting when stopped. I agree the only proper way to do it rolling very slowly and doing a "Firm" but not violent shift. lol
The 360 in the wagoneer was a dog only145hp. The more modern 98 jeep was way more juiced up.
The Wagoneer killed a cone or two. RIP cones! 🤣
😂
Battlewagon with optional wood panel trim decals
the wood grain is the clincher for me!! disco pants are in the same category!!
Too bad AMC quit offering the 360 4V and 401 V8's after 1978.
Snake Plissken My aunt had one of these with a 401, the acceleration was excellent, and it was loud too, the exhaust system was broken in some way.
LakeNipissing the 401 with 3.07 gears probably did better on fuel economy than a 360 2V and 3.31 gears. I bet it had plenty of low end grunt.
What are you talking about? This wagoneer on the video has a 360.
flight2k5 360 with a 4 barrel carb ('78 and earlier) had 195 horsepower versus the later 360 2 barrel at 140 horsepower.
not sure why thats bragging. Compared to today thats crap numbers.
Jeep was far better off under AMC...
Kieran Curtis....you are absolutely out of your mind...AMC did their best to ruin the Jeep nameplate...Kaiser, and Willys before that, made REAL Jeeps, AMC made junk, and as just one example of this, just look at the AMC 20 rear end in their first year of production, compared to the Dana 44 used in the last year of the Kaiser....
Kieran Curtis. You're 100% correct. Chrysler has ruined Jeep, but I think Renault would have done the same thing to Jeep if it still owned AMC currently - the Cherokee would be based on the Mégane and not the Alfa Romeo Giuliettia in this case.
Atleast we have hemis as options in the Jeeps
but they have indestructible amc straight six
The 258 was a great motor, and so was the 4.0L, which was an outgrowth of the 2.5L AMC 4, which was also used by Chrysler.
14 mpg is pretty solid for a big ole Chrysler Corp 360 CI V8
So this is where cars went wrong, the birth of the upscale SUV segment. I had the chance to own one of these but my dad crushed it without asking me when he was finally ready to let go of it.
141 ft. braking was pretty great back then.
141 ft from 55 mph -> 168 ft from 60 mph
Still not bad for a land barge of that size, but less impressive
Especially on cold tires & pavement. (Most of their test numbers are in warm weather.)
Great looking
And to think, these are bringing in big money at auctions.
I've always wanted one.
5:12 "The standard 4.2 liter V6 does a full third better" on flat terrain with only 1 person in the thing. With a full passenger load in hilly terrain that INLINE 6 would be so overmatched that it would probably burn more fuel than the V8 would
That's what happens with small engines in big vehicles.
Free Tshirt to the first person who can guess this Thursday's ThrowBack. 1 guess per subscriber please.
I'm gonna guess an '84 Cherokee.
Let see a video covering the BMW E30 3 series?
I will also guess the '84 XJ mentioned in the end of this film.
Buick Riviera
Buick GNX
1988 Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am
Thank you! Do you have any more retro wagoneer reviews?
These things have shot up in value in the last couple of years
14/18 mpg mine got 8/9 mpg downhill with a tailwind but I was fun to cruise around in
Good video! Very lntresting channel! I watch from Russia. Thank you for your content
great cars!!! Had 2...put almost 300K on my first and 185K on the second....then bought a 7 series BMW...life hasn't been complete since, lol. Contemplated getting another one from the Wagonmaster in TX, but I understand Jeep is going to come out with one similar in 2017. Great video, brought back great memories as my first was a 1983 (Dark Blue).
I don't know I still don't trust Chrysler with doing the old Wagoneer a justice, especially since it'll be built off of the Dodge Durango. Plus it'll look all MOABbed up because Jeep designers don't know how else to make a car anymore.
And now we have ultra DULL crossovers.
That’s all you’re focused on 😂🤣
Jeep just brought back the Wagoneer
I like this cause this is my favoraite car ever 🥰👍🏻☺️
Thanks John!!!!
Fun to watch, especially as these have only grown more iconic + Jeep about to release the new version...
Really can't wait for the new one to come out.
Skyler's ride! Now I have to look for Walter's Aztek review! I have a hunch that it will be better by a tad, or a huge one. 😉
optional 4.2 V6???? Those cylinders where I a line! 4.2 inline 6
That's how you know someone doesn't know anything about engines LOL.
William Todd wait! Can someone explain that you guys are talking about? 🤔
These Jeeps had an inline six, not a V6 as they said in the video, big difference.
How can such an "expert" make such a stupid, erroneous comment?
Who's here after watching the 2022 Grand wagoneer and wagoneer first drive?
5:10 that ⛽️ economy is what we got for the next 25 years of large SUV production
In '83 it design was how in 70-s. Woody stile is pretty for wagons.
Could you find an old 4runner video? That would be awesome
One step ahead
Who could have ever guessed these would gain cult status and command premium prices, even for rusted out, well used examples today. Back in the 1980s, it seemed like such a dated design. Today, that's part of its appeal.
Wow, he's actually not YELLING here.
2:03 I thought they'd invited guest, John Dvorak from the Computer Chronicles for this scene.....
ROTFL they need to do more scenes like this.
Still my dream car
true rival for the range rover
This was my first car in 1993 when I was 16. My grandpa gave it to me because He wasn’t gonna get a good trade price at the dealership.
amazingly cool
What a beaut.
I wonder what the 0-60mph times were on this Jeep? the 40-55mph passing times seems to be more than adequate for an early 80's SUV.
Although no one in my family has ever owned a classic Jeep Wagoneer, it's always been a vehicle I've admired. It's a shame that it was never offered with a turbo diesel engine. It would've offered better fuel economy than its gasoline powered V8 engine.
And still Jeep refuses to let us Americans have a diesel. Pitiful.
+tman008 Disgraceful. If built right, a turbo diesel can achieve longevity, lots of power, torque, and better fuel economy, while being better for the environment.
It’s not Jeep... it’s the gummermit. Trust me, lots of people in the us want more diesels but the government won’t allow it
Provided a way to properly maintain a diesel engine is provided, I'll bet it can be just as environmentally friendly as a gas engine can be.
It’s something to do with emissions, as other countries do not have the same rules and Regs in the us
that vehicle weight & mileage....the more things change ;)
The mileage doesn't seem terrible. My Explorer with the hearty 4.6L V8 is rated at 13 city 17 highway and 14 combined. I get about 15mpg and on freeway trips 18 or 19. Not sure if that's good for a 1983 or bad for a 2002 lol
sethinator224 the MPG ratings have changed since then. Today it’s closer to 16mpg overall, 18 highway, 13 city if you drive like you have an egg under the gas pedal.
And it's just amazing what these classic Jeep Wagoneers are selling for in 2019!
Damn that Jeep looks dated. If it only had round headlights, it would look straight out of the early 60's.
That's because it was. The bodies were built with the same tooling from 1963 to 1991.
I own a 1972. Love the thing, though it is a truck at heart more so than a wagon.
So what? The most overrated criticism is "dated styling." Who cares? "Styling" doesn't get you where you're going. ENGINEERING does.
Chrysler, GM and Ford cars and trucks are almost the same in terms of technology and styling from the late-70s to the early-90s, look at an early 90s Buick and tell me the same car could have been produced 20 years earlier.
You literally described a 60s wagoneer lol
My sister's friend's parents had one of these bad boys in the 80's
Now that's what I call a manly Wagoner!